Matt Slick Live

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. It's Matt Slick Live. Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at Carm.org. When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick Live for answers, taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

Oh, there we go. Hey, everybody, welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick, and you're listening to Matt Slick Live. If, as usual, you want to give me a call, it is so easy to do. Just dial 877-207-2276.

And of course, you can email me info at carm.org, info at carm.org. And uh we can get to them. We usually do. You know, it takes a little bit of time, but we get to 'em. And do them on the air sometimes.

We've got nobody waiting, nobody's calling in right now, and that's okay.

So, um All right. Just found out my daughter is mo moving from here to Idaho to Austin, Texas. She's going from here to Austin, Texas.

So she'll be traveling. A little worried about her, but you know, that's what it is. She's driving, taking a car full of stuff. And uh I've got to pray for her folks, that'd be great. I just, you know the dad things worrying and stuff like that.

And uh I did a couple hours last night on um on TikTok. Answering questions, love doing that, able to, you know, just kind of go through stuff and enjoy it. I really do. I'm grateful for the ability to provide answers. Not that every single answer is always perfect, but I certainly do try and just give what I think, what I believe, that the Word of God teaches.

Yeah.

So uh doing that And as I asked this yesterday, I want to ask it again. One of the things I'm thinking about doing, well, I've been thinking about, but I really want to get into because I know I have more time. for various reasons. is to just start doing videos, all kinds of videos. Um You know, just Short ones, longer ones, whatever.

And I'm just thinking, maybe somebody out there might have some advice. Get this all. I think I already know know what I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna be Just Putting out a lot of vids, just real casual and talking about variant topics and stuff like that. I think people like that.

It was nice at the conference in Dallas over the weekend where different people came up and said, Yeah, we saw you on the videos. A lot of people like the videos, and a lot of people will listen to the radio show, and a lot of people, of course, read the articles. And I cannot tell you how many people over the years have said that they cut their teeth on the Carm site when they were younger, learning stuff. One guy. One guy actually told me that what he would do is print up karm articles.

a stack of them and then he'd go out and read 'em. This is back before I guess you could do everything on phones. And I'm going to kick out of that. But you know, the site's 30 years old.

So.

Now he's married, got a family, and and all of that. All right, now if you want to give me a call, like I said, the number is easy: 877-207-2276. You can also email me at info at carm.org. And uh for the subject line reader, comments or radio question, we can get to it. All right.

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Okay, how about this one? Let's see, have I done this one? Um How about let's go down here? I'm gonna go down here. I got a lot of them.

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So, wow, that's a long one. Man, there's so many. A question. In the NIV, Hosea 11:12 has Judah against God in the Holy One. King James has Judah with God in the Holy One.

How would he solve the translation conflict?

Well, let me go take a look.

Alright, let's see.

So it's Hosea And um So the issue was Judah against God with only one King James, Judah with God, so once against ones with. and the house of Israel. And Judah is an unruly against God. The Hebrew word. is uh Emma.

Just aim. And I'm clicking on my tools, my Bible translation tools. It says with unto by as long neither. from between among against toward wow So it can mean all kinds of stuff. The previous word there is un unruly.

So uh Judah is also unruly, having a problem. Unruly against God would be work, would work, and also unruly with God. Both of them, in that sense, would carry the meaning that they are having difficulties. The King James says. Ooh, but Judah yet ruleth with God.

Ooh, this is really getting interesting. To act freely, to roam freely. freely Man, that's interesting. Hey, how about that? Hosea 11:12.

And uh it says unruly, but it's two words, od rode. And um So occurrences more good longer And the other one is Dominion lords want. You know, I'm about to just research that one. That's a good one. That's a good good question.

Now I'm gonna what am I gonna do? is go into different translations. Hosea 11 12 and just see what the different translations do. as a text comparison.

Alright, so Uh It says Judah still walks with God and is faithful to the Holy One. In King James, Judah yet ruleth with God. The RSV, but Judah still is known by God. L E B Judah is still wandering with God. L I can get another subtuition might be good.

And um And is walking and Newton water energy. Oh man, I gotta check that out. This is this is really interesting.

So, I don't know. I'm about to look at it another time. You know, we get more details about translations and why there's a difficulty there in the King James. I wouldn't go with the King James. Uh Though the King James was a good Bible back in the day, it's not what you'd really want to be using for serious study.

And I'm not just saying it's not trustworthy. I'm saying that more better translations are now. extant. Bibles, better translations with older manuscripts, and more skill linguistically understanding various issues.

Okay, that's what I would say. Let's get to Oscar from New York. Oscar, welcome. You're on the air. Thank you.

In Matthew 4. Verses six seven Now verses seven. Is verse seven proving that Jesus is God?

Okay, let me get to it. Hold on a sec. This is Matthew 4, verse 6. Yes, bro.

Okay, and said to him, If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down, for it is written, He will command the angels concerning you. Uh on their hands they'll bear you up so that not strike your foot. Jesus said, on the other hand, as right, you shall not Put the Lord your God to the test.

So That's interesting the way you're looking at that. But the Lord your God, because He's testing, that's interesting. Testing Jesus, and he says, Don't put the Lord your God to the test. Whenever I've read that. I've always just kind of mentally Flipped and said, Well, that's testing God Himself in heaven by trying to test Jesus.

I haven't really looked at it the way you kind of implied. And I think that's really a good insight. Yeah, that'll put the Lord your God to the test. You're testing Jesus. Ooh, I like that.

Hey, I like that, buddy. Hey, I'm learning. I appreciate that. Good stuff. That might be a good one.

I wonder how they would respond to it, you know, the cults. Uh it probably would just be they would say uh is in reference to To God because Jesus is a representative. That's what I would think they would say. But still, you know, it's a good good verse. Right.

Okay, thank you very much.

Okay, bye-bye. You're welcome very much, and thanks for bringing that up. I like that.

Okay. Good. All right.

Hey, if you want to give me a call, the number is 877-207-2276. Let's get to Christopher from New York. Christopher, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt.

Uh, how are you doing today? Oh, hanging in there. More hanging than in there, but I'm hanging in there.

So my question is, and this is littered throughout the epistles, but specifically my wife and I were reading in the book of James. And James 1 says in the green, it says, This letter is from James, a slave of God and the Lord Jesus Christ. And I've always been curious why it has a differentiation. When Jesus is God, But then it it has this differentiation Between You know, God and of the Lord Jesus Christ.

So I, you know, I did a little research and I looked at the word and, and it's like 9,000 something. used in the New Testament for like the the word Kai Um, in Greek, um, and it's not necessarily from what I saw was denoting a a uh a delineation, but more of Identification. And I just wanted to get your thoughts and Oh. you know, see why that is written that way and it's translated that way. Because, well, the word chi there it occurs 51 times.

I think no, no, it doesn't occur a lot more than that, excuse me. And um It's 2532. 25 oh I got it transposed. Here we go.

So now I can tell you how many times it occurs 9,009 times in the New Testament.

So it has a wide variety of using. And usually it's just a conjunction.

So, um So, James is a bondservant of Jesus and of the Lord Jesus. He's a bondservant of both of God and Jesus.

Now, we know that if you believe in the doctrine of the Trinity, we know that Jesus is a second person of the Trinity in flesh. And so the distinction remains. Jesus is the high priest, Jesus is the mediator, Jesus is the man, he's in heaven.

So retaining the distinction between God and the Lord Jesus in that sense is normal and profitable and wise to do by James when he's writing about this. And it's in reference to the bondslave doulas or duloi. Doulas in Greek, of both of them, God and Jesus, which is interesting why they're put on the same level there.

Okay. Okay, good. Got it.

So it's it's not So so the word Kai I know it's u like used so many different ways 'cause it's not used in one way. But it's not. I don't know if it's just like looking too much into that word guy. It's a bit more difficult. Yeah.

Well, the reason the reason I say is because, you know, In Revelation, I don't know exactly where it says, but it says, you know, I am the Alpha Chi Omega. And it's like. It's like, okay, well, Jesus said, I am the alpha and the omega, so together in one. But it was just it always um like was beyond me about like why Does it say, you know, God and And I was like, okay, is there something with this word and? No.

that has something to do No. It's just normal in Greek as well as in English. He's God and Savior, and he who was. and is to come. It's just joining things.

He's both, okay? In one, when it's referring to the one person, but in the bond slave of them both, it's the joint distinction. Hold on, we got a break, okay? Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned.

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Let's get back to Christopher North Carolina. You still there? Yes, sir. Thank you. So, um Go ahead.

Yeah, so I I guess I was just always like confused why 'Cause like obviously through, you know, through teachings and, you know, different things about like Father, Son, Holy Spirit, and Jesus being God. I understand that. I understand that the Father and the Holy Spirit are all three are God. It was for me that it was just. thrown off when I did see And the reason I was bringing up Kai was I was like, okay, maybe Kai is is has something to do with Why James Just didn't mention G, like, you know, bondservant of Jesus, God, you know, Jesus as God, or.

Or, however, he would word it, you know, because it's like, well, okay, bond servant of God and. The Lord Jesus. It's like, okay, well, does the word Lord denote?

something special in particular With God, because I know Lord is God.

So it's almost like.

Well, not necessarily. Lord can mean different things in different contexts. But when it says the Lord Jesus Christ. Yeah, but for that.

Well, perhaps. Perhaps Okay, so There are ways in which the word Lord Kurias occurs in the Greek that mean it's God. For example, 1 Corinthians 1:2, call upon the name of the Lord of us, Jesus. The word there, Lord, must mean God because it's in reference to Psalm 116.4, where it says, Call upon the name of Yahweh. And that's how it's translated into Greek.

And so you can make that case very easily. But sometimes the word Lord is used in other contexts in other ways.

So we've got to be careful not to do what's called illegitimate totality transfer. That means a word has a variety of meanings in different contexts, and then you transfer the meaning around. And when you do that kind of a thing, then anything can mean anything, just about.

So the word Lord occurs 714 times in the Bible. the Lord your God. And uh And the centurion said to Jesus, Lord, I'm not willing you know, worthy for you to come into my house. Did he know he was God at that point? Or is he referring to him as a type of master, which is found in In Matthew 6:24, no one can serve two masters.

The word there is Lord, glorious.

So I'm just saying, it means different things in different contexts. Always pay attention to the context. That's primary. All right, so back to James 1. It's good that you're examining this.

Let me tell you. This is exactly the kind of thing that you can do that can lead you astray as well as. Really deepen your understanding of things.

Some people, when they go bad, they take one word and make too much out of it. But when you start asking questions like you're doing, you're examining the text and you're looking and you're learning. It's exactly the right thing to do to just expand your understanding. I truly am impressed. I recommend continue to do that kind of a thing.

Don't read too much into it. And at some point, read commentaries and say what they say, and see if you're reading too much into it, or maybe not. But what's going on there is a bondservant of God and of. You could look at it as James is a bondservant of God and a bondservant of the Lord Jesus Christ. And I think that's really what it is.

He's a bondservant of God and of the Lord. He's just simply designating he's a bondservant of both.

Okay? Yes, and one last thing before I let you go. The word Kyrios, i i f curios, I don't know how to pronounce it, but the word Lord, is that also used in James? Yeah, that's it is the word there. What are you saying?

Yeah, it's from the correct word, curios.

Okay. Got it.

Okay. All right.

Yeah.

Great.

Okay. That's all I needed to know. Thanks, Matt.

Okay, all right. God bless. All right, God bless. All right.

All right, now let's get to Lynn from South Carolina. Lynn, welcome. You're on the air. Yeah.

Mm.

So what do you got?

So my question is around spiritual warfare.

Okay. got a couple of points, and then I'd like to get your thoughts on how they tie together.

So when Satan has passed out of heaven, There were a certain number of angels that were also cast out of heaven. Yes.

So there's a finite number of beings in hell. And so when you're talking about spiritual warfare, How is it that that finite number can be almost omniscient. Almost omniscient. I mean, you've got billions of people in the world and You know, all of them could be claiming some type of spiritual warfare. How many?

What kind of number of demons in hell would that take to Because you know, the man where he cast out the demons. Yeah, but it doesn't tell us. You know, it has legions. Right.

And Mary Magdalene had seven. Yes.

So the Bible does not tell us how many demonic forces there are, how many angels there were. Generally speaking, in Revelation 12:4, it says a third of the stars from heaven were swept away and threw down to the earth. And most of them had a lot of background noise there. It's a lot of bad noise.

So.

If you can mute yourself or whatever.

So it says a third of the stars from heaven were thrown down to the earth. Generally, that's understood to mean that a third of the angelic realm fell. But it just doesn't say. But it does say in Revelation 5:11 that there is a great number of persons, myriads and myriads of angels.

So what does myriads mean?

Well, generically it means just a large number. But it also in a strict old sense meant the wor the number ten thousand.

So ten thousands of ten thousands.

So does it mean ten thousand times ten thousand? don't know. And if it was if it was ten thousand Times 10,000, that would be, I think, you know, 100 million or something like that. I don't know. But that's, we don't know if it's speaking literally, we don't know if it's speaking figuratively.

So there's just a lot, okay? You there?

Okay. Yeah, so these types of spiritual warfare that's going on in the world is Caused by The demons from hell?

Some. When we say spiritual warfare, as I say to my friends, I don't need demonic forces to help me mess up and sin. I don't need their help. I'm plenty bad at that. Neither do I.

Okay. So, what we do wrestle against powers and principalities of darkness, Ephesians 6:12 says.

So some think that powers and principalities are divisions. or types of fallen realm. And some say cherubim, seraphim. And so we don't know. And the Bible is just not specific.

Now can one demonic force affect ten people? I don't see why not. If they are different than we are, they can move quickly. They can travel distances quickly, understand languages like we can't. They could be very effective.

You know, when someone's asleep, they can be busy bothering somebody else. Who knows?

So you don't need to have less than 8 billion to affect great problems. in the world. There seems to be the gr like for example of the uh the Prince of Persia. was a demonic force that was very powerful and there seems to be demonic forces that are geographically located trying to go after leaders to cause them to become corrupt and things get worse.

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It's Matt Slick Live, taking a call at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Everybody, welcome back to the show. This Get Back On with Lynn from South Carolina.

Well you're welcome. You still there? I'm here. Thank you. I think that answered my questions.

I'm not sure omniscient was the correct word I was trying to use to demonstrate how those demons can travel differently than we do. Yeah, it's a mystery, you know, and we just don't know. Um I've written on many articles, not many, but several articles on demonic forces and spiritual warfare and things like that and And uh the issue of of how many there are of. We just don't know. And it's okay not to know.

So that's what it is, okay?

Okay, thank you. You're welcome.

Well, God bless. Thank you for calling. All right.

Now, next longest waiting is Carl in Ohio. Carl, welcome. You are on the air. Mr. Slake, how are you doing today?

Oh, man. By God's grace, I'm doing well.

Okay. Okay, I called you every blue moon, but I heard your first caller. And he was talking about price being tested in the wilderness. Yes.

And then Christ response in four seven. You know, when he you know, when he say want him to throw himself down, you know, say want him to listen to him. And then it just would have started all up again. Satan would have been lord of the earth, and it would have been a wrap. But when he said it is also written, do not put the Lord to the test.

He divested himself. You know, Philippians 2, 5 through 11.

So he was being tested as a man.

So he was taking orders from God the Father, you know, God the Son.

So he was man and God, but he had to be tested as a man. He had to become like one of us and be tested like us. And he was showing us. not to I'm like, the sin of presumption. That's a sin.

Like when these free climbers, they climb on mountains, say, oh, the Lord be with me.

Well, you're a free climber, you're a thousand feet. And most of them wind up dying because they're not tethered to anything. That's the center presumption.

So he's trying to show us. Um Okay.

So do you have a question related to this or I'm just curious or No, I was trying to answer the guy's question possibly, and maybe I'm wrong.

So let me ask you a month. You believe Jesus is God in flesh, right? Just making for sure. For sure.

Okay, good. And he's still a man right now. A lot of people say he was there. No, he still is, but that's another thing. No, yeah.

Okay, good. Yeah.

But I'm just saying he was being tested as a man. It just showed us a sin of presumption. And plus, he couldn't listen to him. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Being tested as a man, we wouldn't differentiate between his human and his divine nature and say only this.

No, I'm not doing that. No. Hold on, hold on. Let me finish. And we don't want to say only the human nature was tested.

He was tested as a person. And that's what we need to do to remain biblically more precise and clear, okay? I'm saying to be corrected. You are right. I was wrong.

You are right. But I think you know what I'm getting at, I believe. But no, you're right. I just mentioned that wrong. Yeah.

It's all right. It's all. Yeah, so I'd love to be a little more precise than the average person.

So he was tested, and that's a good point that the guy raised. You know, it's about. About Jesus being tempted, and then Jesus responded, Well, don't tempt God. Ooh, that's good stuff.

So, but yeah, right. Yeah.

Yeah.

Whatever that was my take on it. But anyway, have a good evening, Mr. Slick. You too, man. Thanks for calling, Garl.

Appreciate it.

Alright, go back. All right, God bless. Yeah, he's called a few times. He's always got this good energy. It's good stuff.

All right, now let's get to Chad from Charlotte, North Carolina. Chad, welcome you're on the air. Hey, Matt. Thanks for taking my call. And yeah.

Like you, I believe that um you cannot lose your salvation. But then I was reading um in John fifteen and again in Romans eleven, both Jesus and Paul kind of echo each other saying that I'm the vine, the Lord is the vine dresser, and he'll cut off fruit that doesn't produce or cut off branches that don't produce fruit. Uh so just kind of wondering how that plays in. Sure, what's happening, I believe, what's happening here is in the context of the vine, Jesus says the vine. Yeah.

Well, let me put it this way. Israel was spoken of as being the vine. The allegory of the vine was what would remind them how Israel is called that. uh as removed from Egypt. That's Psalm eighty and Jeremiah two.

So they would understand the Jews. Remember, he's speaking to the Jews, he's not speaking to Gentiles, he's speaking to the Jews. But Paul's speaking of Gentiles and Romans. Yeah, well we're talking about John right now.

So Jesus is speaking to the Jews. And so he says, when you abide in me as the vine, abide, you abide in the vine. It would draw their attention back to the issue of God being the vine dresser, and covenantally Israel is to stay with God. And if they don't, covenantally, they'll be cast out.

So it's a covenantal kind of a thing, not a salvation. Salvation, what the heck is that? Salvific issue, all right?

Now, what's Romans 11? You're trying to. What verse is it you're looking at in Romans 11? I believe it's right there at the beginning, or you might have to dig around a little bit further in. I don't have it in front of me, but he specifically says.

You the Gentiles have been grafted in, and then he goes on and kind of gives them a warning and says that you will also be cut out if you don't continue in God's kindness. Right, I believe it's a covenantal language as well. And one of the things I've noticed, and this is, let me put this, I'm going to show you this. One of the things I want to do is caution tape all the doors around my house, get a supply of food and a cot, and start studying covenant. And uh It's I'm finding out as I study God's word over the years.

That covenant is far greater in importance than I realized. I think what I believe I'm pretty accurate on John 15 with Jesus speaking covenantally to Israel. But what happens with Romans? Is God through Paul speaking covenantally?

Now, here's just a question I don't know. Is he speaking within his mind covenantally out of the descendants of Adam. Because he said in Romans 5, through Adam sin entered the world, and that deals with the issue of the covenant that God made with Adam.

So I can't help but wonder if Paul might not be dealing with that.

some way.

Now I don't know if it is or is not the case.

So when he does talk about the branches in Romans 11, 17, that the natural branches uh But some of the branches were broken off. You being a wild olive. uh grafted in among them, partakers with them of the rich root. I don't think he's speaking there salvifically. I think what he's doing is talking metaphorically.

Look, if you're with Christ, you're going to be okay. And if you're not with him, you're going to be out. If you think you're with him and you're abiding with him, you'll be cut out, often gotten rid of if you're not really doing the things you've got to be doing. It is not a works righteousness thing. It's an issue of him speaking to people Who don't have the theological acumen.

He doesn't know who's believers and not believers. He's speaking to a bunch of people, a mixed group of all kinds of people. Scythians, Egyptians. We could have people from the geographical area of Jordan, Persia. We could have all kinds of people, Jews mixed in, Greeks.

And what you gonna say? He's going to have to speak generically. You're in Christ. You're like branches. But if you're not doing what's right, you're out.

It causes you to examine yourself and to think about where it is and what it is you're believing and doing. I think that's what's going on there. if that makes sense. Yeah, that that's Yeah. Kind of what I was thinking, but uh wanted to get a more learned You mean guesswork?

The more learned guesswork, the more learned guess, okay? Because I'm not sure. I'm sure there are people who know about this a lot better than I do. Maybe they've studied it. Every now and then, someone will call up and say, Man, I've been studying this one thing for five years.

And I'm saying, feed me, feed me. What did you find?

So maybe there's people out there who've done that, but from what I've seen, that's how I understand it, okay?

Okay, that's cool. And uh do you have time for a follow-up? Yes, real quickly. We've got a great coming up here in a minute. Go ahead.

Okay, yeah. At the end of John 15, Jesus says, if I hadn't come and performed miracles, then they wouldn't be guilty of sin. Can you explain that? I need to see the exact verse.

Okay, I found it. Verse 24. If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would not have sinned. But now they have seen and hated me.

So it's like, it's a good question. I think what's going on is that. If you don't know something's wrong, And you do it, it may not be wrong, but it could be wrong. It just depends because you don't know if lying's wrong, doesn't mean it isn't. But I think in the context here is they didn't know who Jesus was.

So they're ignorant about this, but he was in front of them doing things.

Now they have responsibility with the actions and the knowledge that was given to them by his miraculous works.

So if he hadn't been doing this, they wouldn't have had that sin. But he was, so now they're denying him, so now they have that sin.

Okay? All right, that's what I thought too. Just again, just one double check. Thanks, Matt.

Appreciate it.

I'm glad I'm agreeing with somebody who studied it. Good for you. All right.

Thanks, Lat. I appreciate it. All right, man. God bless. Now we've got a break coming up here a little bit, so I'll just hold off because the next one in line is Dalton and then Jeff after that.

And we'll be right back, folks, after these messages. Please stay tuned. We've got two open lines: 877-207-2276. Be right back. It's Matt Slick Live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Hello Ronavan, welcome back to the show. Let's get on with Dalton from Ohio. Dalton, welcome. This call will be recorded.

On the air. Oh, okay. Howdy, howdy. Hi.

So? God bless you and your family there, Smat. Hey, I just got a really quick question. It kind of refers to the beginning of the show where that gentleman asked When Jesus at the end of uh Luke two It says that, like, then he returned to Nazareth with them, and he was obedient to them. and his mother stored all these things in the car Jesus grew in wisdom and in stature and in favor with God and all of the people.

It just kind of always puzzled me. as He's the Lord and all knowing of Uh how can he, you know, like throw Grow and knowing anything if he knows all. But I mean, I didn't know if that was maybe he was just learning what men did or what, but I was just wanting your opinion. Sure.

Now, think about this. Jesus. breastfed.

Now how could God do that? How could he be in swaddling clothes? How could he be carried by his mother, by his father? How can it be carried? How could he eat food and have to go to the bathroom?

It's because he was truly a man. truly human. he had to participate in the reality of what it meant to be human. And one of those realities was, as a young boy, he would grow. understand, learn.

And so we're then faced with this issue, just like you said. How is it if he's God, he knows all things? Because he does. The question then becomes: was he? Accessing all of his divine attributes all of the time.

Yeah.

And we could say yes, we could say no.

Now if he's If he's divine in the divine aspect of his hypostatic union, the divine nature. Could we say and just asking questions? could we say that he's not accessing his omniscience?

Well, I don't know if it's a good question or not. I don't know if it's a dangerous question because we don't want to go what's called into Nestorianism or two separate persons. But we want to make sure that we understand that what Jesus did was become. under the law, Galatians four four. and made lower than the angels for a little while at least.

Hebrews 2.9. And in that is where we see this growing. Eating, sleeping, fatigue. He participated really and truthfully in what it meant to be a human, and part of that means to grow in wisdom and stature. But how does that aff affect the issue of his divine nature?

We don't know. We do not know, we cannot say how it works. We can only draw the conclusion that it's a bit of a paradox, but it's not. contradictory.

Okay. Okay. Yes, that makes total sense.

Okay. Thank you. I know you got a lot of callers ahead of you. I just wanted just your just to refer back to that gentleman's question about the VMing of James. Uh Paul kinda does that um almost in Not every one of us, but almost all of them.

Like, I know at the beginning of Timothy's talking about being a servant of the Lord and. And Savior of Jesus Christ, kind of combining both of those with an and wording.

Okay. Yes, and it's just some of the issues we've got to deal with.

So you're right, you're observing things and you're getting it.

So good for you. All right, thank you. Take care, and you have a wonderful weekend. You two, man. God bless.

All right, all right, good stuff. Hope I gave a good answer there. Let's get to Jeff from Virginia. Jeff, welcome you're on the air. How you doing?

Oh, I'm hanging in there, man. Hanging in there. What do you got? Yeah, me too. My question is, uh I see on my Facebook page these guys that Walk around in purple and call themselves Hebrew Israelites.

Oh, yeah. Bad news. Uh-huh. Is that that's like they think they're the original Jews and they're still. still in the law and, uh, nobody can be saved except them.

Right.

It's a racist belief system. That denies the Trinity, denies Jesus Christ as God in flesh, and has fractured into, I don't know, my estimate is about 200 subgroups. And they, all I can say is, it's racist. I've encountered them before.

Now, but I have to say this: not every black Hebrew Israelite. Which they now are calling themselves just Hebrew Israelites. Not every one of them is racist.

Some of them just believe that the white people Can be saved, where most of the BHI, Black Hebrews, light, say that whites are the servants of the devil.

So There's a bit of a variation in there. But that's what's going on. They can say he's the Messiah, but they won't affirm that he's God in flesh. Because they say, generally speaking, they say they're the only ones who have the right to use the Bible and interpret it. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. That sounds like a Muslim saying that. Yeah, Muslims will say things like that. It's really interesting. They will say that they know the Bible better than we do, and it's special pleading and all kinds of stuff they do.

So that's the they think of Jesus Messiah, too, but they don't believe in Jesus. Right.

That's the other.

So in the 1900s, there was a group called the Commandment Keepers, and they started varying schools. There's mid-1900s, there was a split, mid-90s, there was a split. And there's a group of African Americans who believe they're descendants of the Israelites.

Now get this.

So this is not for every single BHI or Hebrews like group, But, generically speaking, The Twelve Tribes. are the Amer Judah is the American blacks, Benjamin is the West Indian Blacks. Levi is the Haitian blacks, Ephraim the Puerto Ricans, Manasseh the Cubans, Simeon, the Dominicans. Zebulon, Guad Guatemala to Panama Gad was a Native American Indian's Reuben was a Seminole Indians. Asher is Colombia, the people from Colombia to Uruguay.

Issacar is the Mexicans, and Naptali is the Argentinians. I mean When people say this stuff kinda to me, I just you kind of stare at 'em and you're like Uh yeah, I do too because it It's just like everybody was black and then the whites only come along six thousand years ago. Yeah.

And white people are Edomites, descendants of Esau. They're enemies of Jacob. And so we whites are going to be slaves in heaven. At least we get to go to heaven, get people up more slaves. That's good.

Wait, that's part. Yeah, so it's basically racist. And when I meet them online, I just say, you're a racist. And then, boy, they don't like that. It's like if they.

They are they like the nation of Israel, basically. It's not as bad as the Nation of Islam. They are based out of Islamic ideas and some whacked ideas, even for Islam, but. They're not as bad, let's just say. When I mean that, it's a subjective kind of a statement because How whacked.

Can you be? You know, what if I were to say to you, well, you know, there's a religion that teaches God used to be a man on another planet and he has a goddess wife. And they came to this area in this world and created the earth. And they have relations in heaven and produce spirit babies in the heavens that inhabit human bodies on earth. You'd be like, What?

It's whacked.

Well, that's what Mormonism teaches.

So what's the worst? What's more wacky? That or B H I? That whites are all the descendants of the Edomites and are going to be servants of others in heaven because they're we're the children of the devil. It's like How do you measure which one's more whacked?

That would be interesting. a wacked scale. How would you do that? Hey, I'm wondering.

Alright, well, you basically answered. That's where I thought they were. Yeah, it's it's bad news. It's basically just a cult, okay? It's a cult.

There's another guy real quick. White guy wears a stocking cap, got the beer. You know what I'm talking about? That's like saying at a tennis tournament: hey, you with the racket. Yeah, he d he was always talking about you know, Jews, especially and Muslim and I don't know who he is.

He he he don't never debate nobody, so. Oh, I don't know. There's uh There are Muslims who will dress in that attire with a white cap and long white. Over I don't know what the garment is called, but it's like a robe kind of a thing that's buttoned up and. And that's what they wear.

I don't know what the word is, but um, you know, so I don't know. There's lots of them out there and who think they know a lot about God and they're deceived because they're Muslims.

So, I don't know, you know, okay. All right, thank you, Matt. You're welcome.

All right, God bless. All right.

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