Dr Peter Vincent Pry Threats to Our Electrical Grid Cyberwarfare Elections Attacked 081121

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And welcome back to Chosen Generation Radio where no topic is off limits, everything filtered through biblical glasses. And it is my sincere pleasure to welcome my next guest to the program. He is now a regular contributor. He's executive director of the Task Force on National and Homeland Security, a congressional advisory board dedicated to achieving protection of the United States from electromagnetic pulse, EMP, cyber warfare, mass destruction, terrorism and other threats to civilian critical infrastructures on an accelerated basis.

He also is the director of United States Nuclear Strategy Forum and advisory board to Congress on policies to counter weapons of mass destruction. I want to welcome Dr. Peter Vincent Pry. Dr. Pry, welcome. Good to have you.

Thank you so much for having me. Absolutely. Absolutely.

You know, as I'm looking at this, I just this is not really wasn't necessarily in our lane per se, but just to maybe get your brief thoughts. When we talk about cyber warfare, cyber warfare is against all forms of infrastructure. But wouldn't it also include cyber warfare against our election process as well? Sure, it could.

And it could. And cyber warfare is in my lane. You know, it's one of the... Right, your lane. Yes, sir.

Yeah, it's one of the new forms. In fact, I'm just writing a book that's going to be published in hopefully the end of August, early September, called Blackout Warfare. You know, attacking electrical power grids, revolutionary military affairs. You know, because almost nobody in the West understands how Russia, China, North Korea and Iran, you know, plan to attack us. You know, they can attack our electric grids and life sustaining critical infrastructure, cyber attack. They can do it with physical sabotage. They can use non-nuclear EMP weapons. They can use EMP weapons. But their plan and on our side, you know, we have specialists in all those things, you know, but they don't even talk to each other.

And in fact, they fight over each other about which is the most likely way to do it. You know, why should they use nuclear EMP, for example, if they can do cyber. But the truth is they plan to do all of these things. And that's just sort of common sense.

You know, any general is going to be a conservative military planner and throw in the kitchen sink to get the synergistic benefits of these multiple axes of attack. And yes, the way we define cyber warfare, it can involve something like trying to manipulate elections by attacking the elections. And Russia and China and others all, you know, all have done that during past elections.

And it was the specific job of a guy named Chris Krebs, who was the director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. Right. You know, among the infrastructures was the election process.

Okay. It's a little out of place to think of it that way. You know, I suppose because are the elections really a critical infrastructure has to do with, you know, government. We usually think of critical infrastructures as electricity, food, water, you know, gas and petroleum and things like that.

But yeah, I mean, since we're a democracy, I suppose elections are are are are crucial to our, you know, governance. Just a little. Just a little. Yeah. It's a critical infrastructure.

Yes. And and, you know, and I had recommended all through the Trump administration that the president fired that guy, Chris Krebs, you know, because he was incompetent. You know, I could see that he was working against the president on E.M.P., for example. And and it wasn't until after the elections that were clearly stolen that Chris Krebs declared them to be the cleanest elections and fairest elections in American history.

Then he got fired. What a lot of. Yeah, I know there's Mike Lindell is going on and a lot of people.

In fact, I've been having email correspondence with my friends. I haven't really paid that much attention to Lindell, who I respect is a selfless and great patriot. OK. But I also think he's a terrible spokesman for our cause and, you know, and then for his own cause, you know, he just really he should have been advised by somebody to let.

To let one of his experts do the talking, you know, I tried to watch him yesterday with my son. I mean, we both think the elections were stolen. I don't think you need a cybersecurity expert also to know that the elections were stolen or to or to come up with extreme hypotheses like, oh, the Chinese communists stole the elections through cyber.

Maybe they did. But I think the Democrat Party, you know, is is sufficiently noxious that they don't need the Chinese communists to encourage them or help them steal elections. You know, the Democrat Party's been stealing elections since JFK and and they've just been getting worse and worse. So that now when it came to Trump, you know, they they, you know, obviously did things that were unconstitutional in state governments. You know, for example, you know, where Republican poll observers were not allowed to do their duties, where they rigged the vote, the vote with write in ballots and ballot harvesting and allowed all that to happen. And and where their allies in the big mainstream media and the and the high tech giants suppress the constitutional rights of conservatives and Trump supporters, you know, suppressing our First Amendment rights of freedom of speech.

Well, let me just jump in for just a minute, Dr. Peter, and just say that I had Dr. Robert Epstein on the program a number of times. And and, you know, his research indicated that between Google, Facebook and Twitter, they were going to move anywhere. He estimated, you know, as many as 15 million votes could have been moved by by the manipulation of of search results. And and either, you know, and it would have been, you know, not even as blatant as some of the things that they actually did that we saw that were blatant. He was talking about things that they were doing that were very subliminal, if you will, that were that were again designed to, you know, move people in a particular direction. Yeah, he's a highly credible guy because he's a liberal Democrat, but he's an honest man.

And and had been warning two years, at least two years before the elections about what was happening, you know, because he cares about us being continuing to be a constitutional republic, not becoming a totalitarian one party state. And he he was could see that that was happening and that these, you know, the the way the high tech companies draw the algorithms, you know, and his young people for the Democrat Party and his young wife died in in in a rather mysterious automobile accident right around the time that he was really coming out and and sharing this and had testified before Congress. Really? I didn't know that.

Yes. His young his young wife died in an automobile accident that had it was there were just some peculiarities about the whole situation. And, you know, I mean, you know, something right out of a I don't know, a crazy novel. But but, you know, folks, they don't want you to know this. Yesterday, Mike was flying some people in from Colorado and an election official who came to talk about the things that she had seen and the concerns that she had and how the secretary of state in Colorado was was basically threatening and trying to intimidate her to shut up. And they raided her office while she was in the plane flying into to Mike's event. Yeah, well, that's that's, you know, not surprising.

No, you know, given that, you know, you can go back to the Clinton administration and you've got all these mysterious so-called suicides and, you know, people that gave the Clintons problems disappearing or being silenced, you know, threatened into silence. You know, you know, on the Mike Lindell, and I hate to you know, I mean, again, I'm not against Mike Lindell. Mike's a patriot and a brave man.

Mike's a sponsor for my program. So, but yeah, well, I know. But look, it's a free country and Mike believes in free speech.

So, you know, I understand what you're saying. You know, yeah, my free speech rises is that I just wish that he had, you know, given all the money and and the fact that he's putting himself out there at risk, you know, because he certainly is being attacked and will be attacked. You know, you know, that that that the people advising him, you know, should have given him better advice in terms of how to present his evidence.

You know, this idea of I tried to watch the thing yesterday with my son, you know, for an hour. And it's he needs a spokesman. And and instead of instead of giving a protracted case that takes three days of watching two or three days to watch the whole thing, you know, it needs to be boiled down to 15 minutes. People don't have the patience, you know, true believers, people who are already convinced, you know, about where Mike Lindell is coming from, will watch his show. But if you want to convince skeptics, if you really want to convince CNN, the hostile people, you know, these people aren't great critical thinkers. You know, you know, they're used to a world of, you know, 30 second sound bites, you know, and you've got to be able to make the case. If you can't make the case in 15 minutes, you know that, then you're not going to make the case. And you need to know he should have spent his time, in my opinion, on the cybersecurity conference. He is making the case in 15 minutes and then maybe going into more detail, but he should be repeatedly making the case, have to have an elevator speech, you know, that should be given periodically by people who are used to public speaking, you know.

Well, yeah, and if you, you know, if you haven't watched it, folks, at FrankSpeech.com, you can, there's, he has a gentleman on there, Dr. Frank, who is one of his experts. And then there was an attorney, and I didn't catch his name, but when I was watching, there was a lot of conversation from that attorney. The attorney was actually leading and giving, you know, legal reasoning, and we'll get into that, by the way. Top of the next hour, attorney Jonathan Emore, who is a constitutional attorney, is going to be with us and we'll visit more about that. I want to talk to you because in 1999, I was at the CIO conference in San Francisco.

Were you there for that? No, what is the CIO conference? It's the Critical Infrastructure Office. Bill Clinton.

Oh, maybe I was. Bill Clinton set up the Critical Infrastructure Office, CIO, and they had a conference in San Francisco. Oh, no, 1999?

Yes. 1999, no. I was there for a conference that happened, oh, I don't remember the year, but it was after 2008.

Okay. Where there was a big conference where NERC and the electric utilities, there was a big conference on grid security that was put together, and I was there for that. I briefed at that conference. Well, there was one in 1999, and at the time, I had a financial interest in an intellectual properties company, and so we had been invited to come and hear what was going on because of the program that we had put together. But that was, of course, leading up to everybody was talking about what was going to happen in the year 2000.

And what was interesting and what stood out to me from that was, again, as you talk about all of the arguing back and forth about what was important, what wasn't important, who had the best plan, all these kinds of things. And at the end of the day, here we are 23 years, 22 years later, and we still haven't moved the ball. Do you follow me?

I mean, we haven't moved the ball, not like we surely should have. I mean, in 22 years, you would think that we'd be in a place where we would have our electrical grids, all three of them, critically protected. Well, I agree. Okay.

There you go. So when we come back, Dr. Fry will give us his thoughts with regards to the challenges that exist relative to this entire issue. And certainly electricity is something that we all care about and we all should. How our power gets to us. I'm in Texas.

We had rolling blackouts and I'm grateful that I had a backup generator for those. But folks, it's a serious issue and we'll talk about that when we come back. I'm your host, Pastor Greg. You're listening to Chodin Generation Radio. No topic off limits.

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My special guest is Dr. Peter Vincent Fry. Dr. Fry, I want to shift to just in general the electrical grid and the threats that exist in that because I had made mention that there was this CIO conference 22 years ago. And while I understand there's been some movement, it still seems like as you opened up in what you were saying about the vulnerabilities that exist and the arguments about who's going to do what and what's going to happen and whatever, we still don't have a definitive defense of our three grids.

We don't. Our grids are very vulnerable, and you're right from a technological perspective that there hasn't been any progress or not any significant progress in 20 years. And the electric grid really is everything because if you can't protect the electric grid, everything else is vulnerable. That's all you really have to do is knock the props out from the electric grid. And within 72 hours, all the other critical infrastructures are going to collapse.

So why is that? Well, because there was a US government has been following a grand strategy across Republican and Democrat administrations. Ever since 9-11, you know, and maybe longer, you know, but the real concern about the critical infrastructure vulnerability really began after the 9-11 terror attacks. You know, and it's a fundamentally doomed to fail grand strategy that we call the public-private partnership model. You know, and this is a model where the US government partners with the private sector utilities that are in charge of running the grid. And the US government will give them advice, make recommendations, you know, and it's a voluntary partnership. The government is in effect the junior partner in this relationship. And it's not a regulatory relationship. And that's not going to work, you know, because the private utilities aren't part of the national security culture. They're not part of the national security environment. They're part of the business environment. And so they always want to do as little as possible.

Get away with as little as possible. And they'll always tell the government. Yeah, yeah, we get it. Don't worry, you're on top of this. But then, as you can see in Texas, they're not.

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