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So glad you're there. It's the Brian Killmead Show. It's been a really busy week and a good kind of busy. I mean, the Joe Biden tapes, we're not even talking about it. We're talking about now a movement in Gaza.

I wasn't expecting that. How about WNBA? I never thought we'd be talking about anything with the WNBA beyond Caitlin Clark, but tangentially, yeah, because Sophia Cunningham and this ridiculous league with this horrible owners and terrible marketing plan has allowed that to be front and center.

So there's a lot going on today, as well as looking at everything in the economy. And we got on our show, Vice Admiral Robert Harwood. Keep in mind, too, everybody's talking about our YouTube channel, youtube.com/slash at the Brian Killmead Show. You get highlights and additional information. Today is going to be an interesting day for me.

So I started in Fox and Friends, great. Then radio show understood. And then I'm going to be doing the Sunday show, taped some of it early, some of it live. And then I'm going to be doing Jimmy Phaler's show. And then I'll be doing.

Jesse Water Show, but I'll be hosting that.

So it's going to be fun. And we'll bring you behind the scenes with a big tape on that.

So let's get to the big three. Number 3. We know that socialism is sensible, it's practical, and it's popular, and that is why our candidates are winning. That is why the establishment media is so confused. They are confused, and I am confused that you are even out there.

DSA, 120,000 members. The Dem Divide on display on primary season stops down in Michigan as the Bernie Bros take on the Liberals, led by Schumer and Whitmer. The stakes have never been higher for a party than was supposed to be cruising along to a big midterm win, but not so fast. Number two. This is an absolute disaster for Europe and it's the direct result of open borders, socialist, crazy policies.

This is a vision of America's future if the socialists, the communists take power. Or Joe Biden comes back. That's Niall Gardner from the UK used to work for Margaret Thatcher. Have you seen this? The EU, we told you, Spain, the latest European nation, to open up their border and get punished for it as millions flood their gates at 12,000.

12,000 an hour are coming from Morocco, literally swimming to the country, overwhelming the guards, and coming into Spain. And guess what? If you're in Spain, you're in the EU, you can go everywhere and anywhere. When will they learn to take care of their citizens before the third world? Dare I say, Donald Trump told you this in 2016.

Yeah. Number one. What are the prospects? Listen, we go back to major combat operations. There's got a couple of months left to do it.

This is Israel in the United States. Our target list has expanded. It'll force, I believe, a pathway for the regime to collapse. That is General Jack Keene with me on Fox and Friends. War is spreading and it's likely a good thing.

Iran has targeted Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Jordan a week with drones and rockets. And I think in the long run, this is a good thing because all our Gulf allies realize We're in this together, and the one enemy, the one common denominator is in Iran. President of the United States is at Camp David with everybody. It's a cabinet meeting, everyone's there. But I think mostly this is going to be about what we do going forward and for the next fourteen days.

It's going to be twenty four hours around the clock. Look, I don't want to spend a ton of money, but do we have to escalate to de-escalate? I said this in May.

So do you guys. even if you weren't for it. We all know that Iran's the problem. How we attack it, when we attack it, you want to debate that. I think President Trump did the right thing.

But I don't think the MOU was good. I think it allowed Iran to think they won and took a breath and controlled a straight.

Now it's going to be harder. Here's more from General Keene. Cut to. This is a huge step forward. I mean, clearly, this goes back to October of 25.

One person. I'm sorry. Number three. Number three. So we went to a ceasefire on April the 7th and then negotiations on the 8th.

That was after 38 days of Epic Fury and we had about 14 days to go. The incentive to do that was who? It was Iran was saying they were willing to talk about removing restrictions on the Strait of Amuz.

Well here we are almost four months later and we're nowhere near a deal over the Straits of Amuz, which is the original reason for going to the ceasefire. There's no prospects, I think, of any deal on a nuclear enterprise. Certainly, I believe our negotiating team has got to come to the conclusion that we are not going to make a deal with them. They thought the deal was possible and they kept telling that to the president for sure. The facts speak for themselves and time certainly is a determination here.

After four months, I don't think we're close to either one of them. Look, munitions and interceptors are an issue. We can pull some from other places. We're just worried about if another flare-up comes out. And I would love to help Ukraine too.

But our problem is our big four do not manufacture quickly, whether it's The way the Pentagon conducts things, the slow in which they pay, whatever it is. It's fixable, and we got to react. When I see, you know, I know the sophistication of our weapons is to the point where we can't manufacture like we did with planes and tanks during World War II, because the good news is our weapons are so much better, but the bad news is it takes more time to assemble them in theory. But now we've got Silicon Valley that's got to get involved. Over 100 companies now folded into the Pentagon.

We got to quickly build up these forces. And look, what Ukraine has done. With 500 defense manufacturers in that country, with a war raging around it, we should do the same thing with peace here at home, I believe. Rebecca Heinrichs on the fact that China is about to sell $50 million worth of manpad, shoulder-fired missiles that could wreak havoc. On our F-35s and the F-16s, Cut-5.

If the United States is going to be restrained by not delivering these weapons, we would expect the Chinese obviously not to be helping the country that we are in a war with right now. To be a major escalation on the part of the Chinese to get engaged in this. And they're talking about the U. S. not delivering weapons to Taiwan.

And we should have delivered the weapons. It shouldn't have been up for conversation. But that's the way China thanks us for not delivering additional weapons to Taiwan by delivering weapons to China excuse me, but to Iran. Are you kidding me? Matt Whitaker, the ambassador to NATO, cut six.

China needs to stay out of this fight. We have all sorts of both military and economic ways to deal with this type of situation.

So let's move to some good news that I was not expecting, but I'm pleased to announce. I know there could be trip-ups and it could be a false start, but they're on their way. I'm talking about what's happening in Gaza. There's a proposal out there that Hamas disarm, and evidently they have agreed to put their guns in storage or on freeze, and that in exchange for the IDF moving out of Gaza. And now they're moving to the white line or to the yellow line from the white line, which is further out.

In exchange, Hamas will show and reveal its network of tunnels. In exchange, Nepal, they will have no role in the government. Evidently, according to Axios, during the Grand Diatola's funeral, The IGF the IRGC, Iran, tried to convince Hamas not to sign off, not to do this. Evidently, they're going to. Part of it is they're not getting the same financing they're getting from outside sources, Turkey, Qatar, Iran are not able to flood arms into there, and they lost two-thirds of their members through death and destruction.

Yes, death and destruction, including almost all their leadership. This has got General Keene extremely happy. I know. Keep in mind, they've been working on this for over a year since we got the hostages out. This is Jared and Whitaker and Witcoff at their best.

I really haven't seen much success outside this, but this is very impressive. I want you to hear what General Jack Keene said.

Now I was going to lead with Iran with him today, and he said, Brian, we got to do Gaza. It's a bigger deal. Cut three. I'm sorry, cut to. This is a huge step forward.

I mean, clearly, this goes back to October of 25. when President Trump brokered the deal, remember to get the hostages out in exchange for prisoners, to go to a ceasefire, and also to get humanitarian relief in for the Palestinian people. And then they put together a framework going forward which would eventually get Hamas to disarm give up political and military control and Israel would pull out of the Gaza area. And but of course, Hamas has been resisting all of that for months. since that time.

Nine months have passed, but the persistence of the Trump team here deserves a lot of credit and also Egypt participating, Turkey and Qatar in this. Yes, please keep it going. I mean If you could get some peace, emblems of peace there, they'll stop these protests and allow the anti-Semitism to subside to a degree, even though it's heavily scripted and financed. around the world.

So, this is something I wasn't expecting. Yesterday I looked up and I thought, what is happening? And I was seeing thousands, tens of thousands.

Now it turns out Moroccans who have swam about three miles into. Spain. and they're just overwhelming the guards, who evidently were told just let them come. Are you kidding me? Who would allow that to happen?

When this happened with Haiti and we saw eight million people come in minimum that we know of under Joe Biden, it's a disaster. They're letting twelve thousand an hour into Spain. And this isn't by coincidence. This is a policy. This is a crazy liberal leader.

I had a chance to meet at the World Cup final a terrible guy, a terrible leader. He's just awful, and he has set a policy. He says The migrant surge of twelve thousand an hour over a million. The migrant surge has been linked by Spanish authorities and critics to a Supreme Court ruling that limits the immediate return of migrants intercepted after reaching Cotta by sea.

So if you swim there three miles, you get to stay. A while. You can't be immediately deported.

So everyone in Morocco says Morocco sucks. I'm going to Spain. I can be part of the EU. But instead, they don't try to blend in like a melting pot. They try to to actually convert the culture in the country they invade.

The events have reignited debate over Spain's immigration policy, with supporters viewing the amnesty as a way to integrate undocumented workers. Undocumented? They got there illegally, you idiots.

So at least nine people are dead. I think the number is now up to 18 on the transition. The crisis comes after Spain launched a massive military. Regularization amnesty program for undocumented migrants. This is the second policy.

The program offered a pathway to legal status for an estimated one point one million applicants who came here before twenty twenty five.

So you are rewarding people who broke the law and came to your country, many of which have to live off your social safety net. And you guys have no money for defense. You have no money to build up your society. But now you're letting other cultures bleed into your culture wantonly, randomly. Who would ever agree to this?

This is a disaster. Niall Gardner, who was a former Margaret Thatcher adviser from the UK, they've also had a terrible policy when it comes to illegal immigrants. CUP 13. This is an absolute disaster for Europe and it's the direct result of open borders, socialist crazy policies, frankly, including a mass amnesty for illegal immigrants in Spain. And this is the result.

At least 50,000 illegal migrants crossed into Spanish territory yesterday. Many more will cross in today.

Some estimates indicate that the official figure is far too low. There could be perhaps 80,000 to 100,000 migrants who have crossed into Spanish territory. And this is a vision of America's future if the socialists, the communists take power in the United States in 2029.

So so it's absolutely true. And keep in mind, we just watch this. We watched everyone tell us the border was sealed, mayorcas. We watched Biden say everything's fine, and he let 8 million people in.

Now we know he's cognitively addled, as we knew, but now confirmed. And the Vice President had a chance to define herself. For example, they gave J.D. Vance a job on fraud. Tell me he hasn't done a phenomenal job.

They gave And by the way, not just Blue States. I'm talking about Red States, Ohio. They're cracking down in Ohio. Today, I just interviewed the Attorney General Alan Wilson, who wants to run for governor on South Carolina. They found millions of dollars there.

Doesn't matter. It's federal money being abused. They want to find it and rein it in. They gave Conroy Harris a job. They said the border.

Now we know we've seen President Trump seal it. Seal it. I mean, there's something like 12,000 people that have come here over the last two and a half years, opposed 8 million. I don't even think the 12,000 got in. I don't think anybody's getting in.

So if you want to know the mindset. Of the migrant. Here is some s here's a soundbite of an unnamed migrant on why they're crossing into Spain, CUP 15. The police officers tried to stop us, but uh our uh will and our uh determination we could uh came here. Yeah.

These are all these aren't people that have a horrible situations, they're not overcoming Civic unrest. They're not they're not trying to be they're not being uh attacked by terrorists. They're not wounded. They're not desolate. They're not starving.

These are all men. I haven't seen any women. All men in their twenties. Why would they be coming there? Come on, please!

I know Spain is better than Morocco. But you're going to go there. If past is prologue and not try to blend in and be part of the Spanish culture, you're going to try to bring Morocco to Spain. Sir Jim Ferguson, a former British Parliament candidate. With Brexit.

was on the bottom line last night. I want to share some of what he said. Mr President, a lot of people are arguing that this is by design, perhaps it's to get votes, perhaps it's to get them to remain in power, but it's quite unprecedented and the European people themselves are seeing their communities overrun. This has been happening for a long time now. This latest episode in Theatre Spain I think has brought it back into the focus again and it's great that Fox News are focusing in on this as well.

Up until quite recently America had the problem at the southern border with the US administration under Trump. That has now stopped.

So hopefully we can get some changes of governments. But Pedro Sanchez is a far left socialist in Spain and he's completely losing control or it may be worse than that. It might be by design. And I don't know a lot about the Euro. I've only been to Europe three times, maybe four.

But evidently, if you get into Spain, you got the Europass, you're going everywhere. And then, if you get amnesty in Spain, you're going everywhere. In Italy, they're panicked. Why? Because Maloney's conservative.

She's up for election, and they realize they could be coming to Italy, and she's going to have a problem again.

So she came forward and she said this: the images coming from Quetta are striking and demonstrate once again the uncontrolled illegal immigration poses a concrete threat to security of European borders. She goes on.

So she recognizes it. My hope is they all recognize it. This should not be a partisan issue. You should take pride in your country and control who comes into your country. 1866-408-7669.

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Mitch Pelosi at the time also was involved in that. And so I will I I don't have anything nice to say about it. When I found Nancy over there, and I'm supposed to be the guy that says, oh, but you know what? For what Nancy Pelosi has contributed to this country and to the Democratic Party. I'm not supposed to that man.

Okay, uh Hunter Biden. First off, I know is your your dad. But Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer should not have your ire. They pointed out late what everybody knew early. There was not.

Invested in the Democratic Party. Your dad shot. He never should have been president, and you, if you weren't on crack, should have been a very good person. Should have made sure he didn't run for president. Instead, you pushed him not only to run, but to run for re-election.

And because they stepped up in June and told him to step aside, are you kidding? I mean, are you still on crack? And this tough guy attitude, and him going at different outlets, calling out the Democratic Party might be entertaining. And I want to share it with you just because I want to give you all angles. I got no patience for this guy.

Because nobody hurt his family. and Joe Biden more than him. Think about how much time they wasted. As he was on crack, failing out of the military, leaving a laptop. at a uh at a repair shop.

Causing so much embarrassment to himself and his family. Think about how he left his wife and kids. Or his brothers. Widow. The following statements have not been evaluated by the FDA.

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Try Previgen for your brain today. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. I know it's really hard. Will may not be a principle of war, but it's a principle of leadership.

When you get into a gunfight like this, who's got the stronger will to finish? The fact of the matter is, if you let a bad team stick around for a long time, like you've seen in football in the fourth quarter, they can tend to do something that you weren't expecting.

So you've got to close them out early. I think we've gone beyond that. I think we should close them out now, figure a way to finish this fight. I don't think we're close in that regard of finishing the job if we're just dependent on bombing.

So what I understand And just I look for little nuances that explain action. And one thing that happened is they were talking to the Iranians. And they were just real that surprise attack in Jordan threw them. Because they realize, you know, even I think Wickoff is realizing I can't deal with these guys. Because they were having detailed conversations.

And then Tehran had the surprise attack on American service members in. Jordan. And they said. And by the way, they had to really scramble to knock those four rockets out of the sky. They had to shoot off a lot in order to knock them down.

And they did.

So they go, listen, we can't deal with these guys. And then we watch him hit Saudi Arabia, Ramako. We watch him try to shut down the Red Sea with the Houthis. We watch the Iraqi militias that are affiliated with Iran do what they do. as well as what the IRGC is doing and They've had it.

And that's why I believe in Camp David, they're coming up with something like Epic Fury 2, which means around the clock hits. Vice Admiral Robert Harwood joins us now. He is a senior advisor with the Iran Policy Project at the Jewish Institute for National Security of America. Admiral? Do you know what is something about the surprise attack?

Out of all the attacks that have taken place. Really? change things for this administration. Can you see how and why?

Well, it's not just this administration, Brian, it's broader than that. You're seeing the region come to bear now. You're seeing, look up in Lebanon, they've signed an agreement with the Israelis to disarm and disband Hezbollah. You're seeing Hamas now come to the table and agree to disarm and move towards peace. You're seeing a coalition come against the Houthis in Yemen.

And you're even seeing Saudi participate in offensive operations.

So I think all those things tied together. You're seeing political support in the region tie together with this commitment to go after the government in Iran and stop this crazy activity they've been doing for decades.

So politically and operationally, both things have tied the turn. And I think what you're going to see, well, we've always had these military options. I think you're going to see these financial and political activities enhance.

So they're going to maybe shut down all their boards. Orders, shut down their airspace, really starve them out financially to put additional pressure on the regime.

So, yes, I think this is one of those tipping points that brings together that political, financial, or economic, and military power, the full bear of all of those against Iran.

So, Admiral, you know what they're trying to do? They were trying to get the Gulf states to turn on us. And say, look, because your affiliation with America, we're bombing you. Get rid of them. The foreign minister called Bulgaria, because they found out we're using our bases in Bulgaria and said, stop.

Using America allowing America to use your bases. They warned the UK last week, too. It's not working. In Jordan, they try to hit American bases. Yeah, it's in Jordan, but they're ours.

And then in Egypt, they just got Egypt involved. They hit one of our tankers and hit Egyptian property, but they're really aiming for us. Instead, the Saudis have a conference with 12 states and they say, can we act in concert in order to stop Iran and protect ourselves? I'm fascinated by what's taking place. What are they capable of?

You know what the assets they have. What are the Gulf states capable of? When it comes to Iran. Without us. They've got everything that was and it's always better to go to war with your partners in coalition.

We they bring intelligence, they being humans, you know, Arab speakers, they bring military capability, they bring it. That's what I mean, Adam. Yeah, of course. They all have something to bring to the table en masse in and of itself. They all know they've at risk, but more importantly, politically aligning all this reinforces those military and economic opportunities.

And it's going to come to when we want to shut down the borders.

Now, you can do it with military strikes, but when all the Arab nations turned to Pakistan and said, hey, you've got to shut down your. Your borders, that political power is demonstrated.

So, let's, you'd much rather achieve these things politically without doing the bombings, because in the end, for the Iranian people, that plays out to be a much better solution. At the end of the day, when this government is changed and you have a government who wants to rebuild the infrastructure, they'll have assets to do that. But if the infrastructure is intracted, because we've been able to get the solution politically, then they can recover much quicker.

So, I can't reinforce how important this political support is to increase the pressure tied together with these economic options that the president has, and then using the military in support of both of those very powerful components of national power.

So, Admiral, you know, we're only getting one side of the story, and I know it must amaze you now that you're out of uniform. Not that you never watch the news, but 85% is against America in America. I mean, you would think we're not even bombing.

So they hit a Jordan base or they try to hit us in Egypt, yet we're hitting on a regular basis. I don't see much video. I kind of blame the Pentagon for that a little bit, but 85% are cheering against us, painting a dire picture. Does it astound you? Brian, I just can't believe that.

That's counterintuitive. And if you're an American and don't see a threat, don't understand what a nuclear-armed Iran, much less what the Islamic revolution has been doing for four decades, you've got to be blind and dumb almost. Look, Lebanon is a failed country because of Iran and its support of Hezbollah. Yemen is a failed country because of their support of the Houthis. The same thing's going on in Hamas.

It's going on in Iraq. It's going on in Syria. And guess what? They have footholds in Europe, and you're starting to see it on our campuses. It's crazy.

What American doesn't understand that? And look, we won't go, can't go to war with Russia and China because they're nuclear-armed states. Yeah. Add another nuclear armed state to that that would then control all the oil coming out of the Middle East. I don't see how Americans don't understand that.

So I just can't accept that 85% of Americans are against that. I just can't accept that. I don't think that's a fact. I know, but we're not seeing our side and we're not hearing our side. There's very few people like you, Admiral, calling balls and strikes, where you just say, look, we're hitting this area, we're stopping this area, this is what we got to do, this is what the damage has been done.

We've never had a president. I don't care if you voted for him or not. Attack our enemy, who's been our enemy through eight presidents.

So we've never had a president attack, period. We had Midnight Hammer last year. We had Salome in his first term. And this is the first time we've taken kinetic action against our vowed enemy, who says death to America is not a phrase, it's a policy.

So we're taking this action. And then you go, okay, it's just Iran. No, it isn't just Iran, because Iran is spread with Hedlah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and they did have a foothold in Syria.

So we never could have any shot at peace as long as Iran's government was in power. That's exactly right, Barton. And you left out the other two components, China and Russia. This is about today's Cold War, not the Cold War we had in the 50s and 60s. This is China's top source of free, not free, but very cheap oil.

So it really undermines them at the end of the state. And Russia the same, their allies.

So all of this on... on the strategic level of the Islamic Revolution and this the current Cold War is critical and that's why this president understands that why he was willing to strike and why I'm convinced he's going to see this through to the end state so again you knock up you talk about that kinetic activity yes he took out Solomon and he strike but now we've really got to tie in and reinforce that political and economic elements of power to bring Iran to its knees and I think the president's going to do that how close are we To doing that. I think we're there. I think it's already started. What do you mean?

Well, those things I said, you're saying the 24 hours of strikes haven't started yet, though, right? No, no, no, but I mean the whole campaign is more political, financial. And from all my friends in Iran, I'm getting these notes. They're cheering, man. They say, hey, look, we're ready to go.

We're organizing in small groups. We need something that's going to provide that tipping point.

So I see all these things going in the right direction. And don't forget, the president's been very strategic in time. This pressure of cutting them off financially is really boiling the frog in Iran right now.

So time is on his behalf. And tying all these elements of power with the kinetic activity and support is going to be the things that get this done at the end of the day. It's really going to be interesting. Why do you think, do you think it's, it's, uh, what do you about the timing? that we have with this announcement on Hamas.

that I know a few things have to happen and everything could fall apart. But the fact is it said, okay, we're going to put our guns in storage or on ice. That we need the IDF to back out to the yellow line, and they are. We need you to reveal your tunnels. And I thought to myself, wow.

You know, and evidently, the actual reporting at the Ayatollah's funeral, the IRGC went up to Amas and they said, Don't do this. And it looks like they're doing it anyway.

Well, what do you think? You're exactly right. They're seeing the demise of the IRGC, the guy who pays them, the guy who sponsors them. They know they're going down the tubes. It's like a ship.

The captain goes down with the ship. This crew doesn't want to go with them.

So they want to make sure when Iran does implode, they can still exist. It's going to be tough without the support and funding, but again, they don't want to be held accountable like the Iranians. And you walk at the end of the day, there are going to be a lot of Iranians who the Iranian people are going to hold accountable. Hamas and Hezvala don't want to end up in that situation. This is existential threats to all of them.

And they're all now seeing the sinking ship and they want to position themselves for survival because many won't at the end of the day. Yeah. So you are hearing from people in Iran, you mean a dozen or two dozen that say that now we have my contacts and friends. But they don't have any guns yet, right? That's right.

So they're looking for that tipping point. And that's why I always believe boots on the ground is a very attractive option for the U.S. And not for occupations, but to go into towns and show that we're there, we're for the people. And that may be able to give them that tipping point to overcome the IRGC and besiege, just as we saw the Artiche do in 1979.

So I think history is going to repeat itself here. And a lot of people are coming to that realization now.

So you would like to see troops on the ground, American troops in Iranian cities.

Well, I'm not saying I'd like to see, I think that's an option. These are all options the president and done smartly, done astutely, that could be that tipping point. And again, I'm not suggesting for occupation in Tehran, but I'm suggesting a raid in Karj or Josk or some of these outlying cities where we could protect our guys. But critical to that, again, is taking out, finishing the jobs with their missiles and drones. because that would be turned inside if we put boots on the ground.

So we've got to get that done. And that's part and parcel in getting the straits open again. You know, I just don't know. I know this sounds rudimentary and you're the military expert, but if we were able to parachute the way we have landers land on Mars in those bubbles. And they just drop them.

I'm wondering if we do a parachute and drop guns in the streets. and dropped weapons in the streets. Why would that not be effective?

Well, you could be giving them to the wrong people, but that's where raids might be helpful. When you get raided, you go in, take a town, you're going to see who's on your side, who comes out to cheer you, who comes out to fight you. That's the better method, I believe, to distribute arms, help build the insurgency, and start with these small outlying cities.

So, again, I think these are all options and part of the broader strategy.

So, when the president decides to choose or exercise his options, will be predicated on how his strategy and the campaign unfolds. Admiral's just something, just real quick, I got a couple of minutes left. Cover story of Newsweek this week, that no one's talking about, no one reads magazines, but still, Newsweek. Uh about Venezuela. For nearly three decades, Hugo Chavez and Maduro invoked socialism to justify their grip on the country.

Now that they're gone, the Venezuelans are lining up. To meet the Americans. Shell has signed a gas development deal with SLB, the world's largest oil field service company in the world, following a lapse of licenses. In May, Venezuela freed three former police officers who had spent 23 years in jail. They've let 670 political prisoners out.

And political parties are now allowed beginning to take root and organize.

So all I can tell you is That raid, which was so brilliant, and it took the guts for the president to call it and the military to execute it. We actually are delivering a chance at democracy and freedom for people. Gradually Rather than all at once, they could have been erupted to civil war. And this seems to be a success story that's unfolding. And we're just not giving enough attention to it because of Iran.

Your thoughts? Brian, extrapolate from that. Iran's five times the size and number of people, oil, geography. That's exactly the end state for Iran.

So the playbook is completely the same. It's going to take more effort, but a couple raids, the things that get us to that tipping point. And I think Iran transitions even quicker and much broader ramifications because then it changes the whole Middle East.

So the analogies are strikingly similar. You think Cooper is going to consider that?

Well, it's the president of the MW. I know, but the Admiral's got to present it. He's got to present it.

Well, no, he's part of the whole effort. CIA, commerce, this is a whole of government entity. Brad's just, Admiral Cooper, excuse me, is just one part of the equation. He's the military component. This is the whole of government, and a campaign synchronized would get you the exact same results, but much more dramatically and much greater strategic ramifications.

Admiral, thanks so much. Always great talking to you. Tell your friends, I hope they can take their country back. Thank you, Admiral. Thank you, Brian, and they will.

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He even got into the Philadelphia Eagles press conference when he said, I'm gonna Fauci you, I'm gonna take the fifth. But there's a story in the free press today that just outlines some of the excerpts from Anthony Fauci's ridiculous and embarrassing diary. He writes this at one point. Big front-page article about me appeared in the Washington Post. Very flattering.

The situation with my national and international fame is explosive and really unimaginable. It's not hyperbole to say today that I am the most famous and talked-about person in the country and one of the most recognizable persons in the world. Countless profiles on me, multiple media. I cannot even read all the things that are being written about me since I am so busy. Seriously, POTUS seems to be enamored of me, even though I'm taking the spotlight away from him, meaning Trump.

We are developing a very unique and interesting relationship. Notice nothing positive. The entire Secret Service Corps is coming over to me and chatting. They let me into the gate first without even checking my ID. Everyone is worried about my health and welfare, probably because it's all over the place that I'm almost 80 years old.

This is absolutely insane. And no, it's so embarrassing that people are still trying to cover for him. And what I'm gonna talk about on One Nation Sunday at 10 o'clock Eastern Time, I'm gonna just talk about how. The media blew the Russian hoax, you brew the laptop, you blew the cognitive decline, the cognitive decline of Joe Biden, and now you're blowing this. From Highway.

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We got a big hour coming your way. Hussein Abdul Mansour is going to be with us. He's a fellow at the Jinsa Jermado Center, where he works and focuses on the intersection of Arab politics, Islamist movements, and regional security. Why is it important, especially today? Because it looks like these Gulf states are coming together with an informal or formal coalition to fight back against Iran because they basically all have been hit.

So their hope of separating us from our allies is not coming to fruition. And Taylor Riggs, co-host of the Big Money Show, is stopping by here first. But before we get to Taylor, let's get to the big three. Number three. We know that socialism is sensible, it's practical, and it's popular, and that is why our candidates are winning.

That is why the establishment media is so confused. Yep, the Dem Divide on display as primary season steps in to Michigan. As the Bernie Bros take on the Liberals, led by Schumer and Whitmer. The stakes have not been this high in a while because this, ladies and gentlemen, is a purple state. Can socialists win in a purple state?

Number two. This is an absolute disaster for Europe and it's the direct result of open borders, socialist, crazy policies. This is a vision of America's future if the socialists, the communists take power. Yes, Niall Gardner, conservative commentator, EU, we told you Spain is the latest European nation to open up its borders and millions are coming through, causing panic throughout the EU. When will they learn?

that their citizens should matter first. Number one. What are the prospects? Listen, we go back to major combat operations. There's got a couple of months left to do it.

This is Israel and the United States. Our target list has expanded. It'll force, I believe, a pathway for the regime to collapse. Yep, that is General Jack Keene with me, unboxing friends. War is spreading, and it's likely a good thing.

Iran has targeted Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Jordan this week, and drones and rockets. And I think in the long run, this will be a good thing to make it clear who the enemy is. And it's Iran with major progress being made in Gaza. I know I've rarely put those terms progress in Gaza together, but there is some change there. Taylor Riggs, of course, some economic numbers came in yesterday.

And overall, the economy is not growing in terms of GDP as fast as we thought. Yes, but underneath the surface, actually, private domestic economy is much stronger than GDP at 1.5% because we're importing a lot of goods to build data centers and to build chips, for example. That subtracts from GDP. Imports are a negative.

So, actually, there is a lot of underlying demand, but the stuff that we import is a negative sign in front of GDP, which is why it's only at 1.5%. A lot of economists think that actually underlying demand really is closer to 2.2.5%. It's just a wonky way in which GDP is calculated. I also heard it explained by experts like you that we are getting closer to that 2% inflation rate that would allow rates to be cut. Yeah, I don't know if we can cut, but we just won't hike.

And I think there is a difference. I think the market went this year thinking that we could cut when Kevin Worsch came in, and now we're just hoping he doesn't hike. Because of the war? In part, but also inflation has been above that 2% target for five years now. I mean, it's been a really, really long time.

So, Kevin Worsch came in. We got the Fed meeting on Wednesday. We've gotten two out of the three dissenters. They've released statements saying why they dissented and they voted for a rate hike. And what they're saying is that it's been above 2% for way too long and that.

So this is tricky. You can't hike into a supply shock. What does a rate hike do? It slows the economy. It doesn't increase oil on the market.

Right now, inflation is high in part because we don't have enough oil. Raising rates doesn't fix that. It doesn't magically produce millions of barrels of more oil.

So that's why Kevin Worsch and I agree that it's wrong to hike into a supply shock. You hike when there's too much demand and you want to cool the economy. You don't hike when there's not enough supply. There's a very big difference. But again, the market, I think, is trying to figure out: I don't think we can cut anytime soon, but it's just can we hold or are we forced to hike?

Kevin Worsch would argue we're not going to be forced to hike. We're going to hold right now and see if oil starts to come down again. And indeed, if it does, then that does prove to be transitory. Here's what Scott Beston said: the Treasury Secretary: cut 40. The number is very noisy because a lot of that is very technical.

We released a big amount of oil from Strategic Petroleum Reserve and that came out of GDP.

So the good news is core GDP was actually quite strong Ed. And we're seeing manufacturing is doing well, the jobs numbers are strong, the consumer is strong.

So it was a technical adjustment in the number. I wouldn't worry about it.

So, they're talking about things being revised down and up. Yeah, I mean, and so he's talking about the GDP number that I was talking about: how when you import a lot of goods to build out manufacturing and data centers here, that's a negative sign in front of GDP. You've just subtracted. But core GDP, if you look beyond just that headline number, we're importing things because we have an economy that's really strong because we're trying to build data centers. We're trying to import chips so that we can build out factories.

That being said, I do want to caution that. I don't want to sound like the Democrats in 2022 when I kept telling you, things are really good, things are really good, and you kept telling me. They're not good. I want a different president. This isn't working.

The Democrats said, but don't believe your feelings. There's no recession. The economy is really good. It's your problem that you don't feel it. I don't want to sound like that.

I think people actually feel like things aren't good. Data centers are great, but it right now isn't helping the person on the doesn't help you buy more groceries, is what I'm trying to say. I think the productivity that we can get eventually from AI. That's a multi-year story. We haven't seen that quite yet.

We will, and I'm very hopeful about the prospects of AI, but it doesn't fix the kitchen table issue right now.

So let's talk about data centers because almost Republicans are Democrat concerned. Number one, are they built too close to major cities or suburbs? Are they taking up farmland? Are they going to create a home? Are they going to be sucking the water out of your system?

Are they going to be taking away, needing tax subsidies to be built?

So there's certain criteria. I talked to the CEO of Potmos Hosting, who's building data centers that are sustaining and pay for themselves without tax breaks. He talked about this. John Johnson, cut 44. The real sweet spot is that Goldilocks zone for a data center, and data centers can be built in a way that's really sustainable.

Patmos built the first actually assessed clean energy data center in history, but that happens in like the 10 to 50 megawatt zone. That's also where the economics make the most sense. And we think that's. That's where the market's really going. And I think there is rightful friction and hesitation against big tech promises.

And so we'll see where that happens. But it might surprise you to know that I'm not entirely opposed to data center moratoriums of 100 megawatts or more.

So he thinks the size, he goes, you keep it fig 50 megawatts, he goes that's a little bit more palatable. Yes, so I hear him. Um, but we need like We need way more demand than that. I mean, I think that's a great start. But if you ask Kevin O'Leary, who's Elon Musk, Jensen Wong, I mean, sure, are they talking their own book?

Because they're pro data center, of course, and they benefit the more data centers we build. But we need more energy yesterday.

So I like that we're thinking about smaller, more confined data centers that are self-contained. I love that, especially as we're facing moratoriums on larger ones. We're trying to figure out how to do that on a societal level. But we need a lot more power for this stuff.

So The good news is there's a ton of smart people in boardrooms and startups all over this country that are figuring out how to do this. Elon Musk says we're going to put this stuff in space, so it doesn't have to be in your backyard. But look, I think Big tech did not get in front of this. They assumed that they would come in, build data centers, run over people and no one would care. And they're figuring out that people care, that they don't want this in their backyard.

big tech is now coming out and saying Okay, now we'll do our big campaign. And get energy. They have to have an energy source. Yeah. And people are saying it's a little bit too late.

I am super bullish on this, assuming that from what I've heard and what the studies that I've read, they are self-contained. They're providing their own energy and giving back to the grid. They're making their own water and contributing back to the grid.

So they're providing more. My backdoor way of thinking about this is: this is an awesome way to privatize utilities, which are some of the most heavy, regulated state. You know, top-down. Industry. And if this could be a backdoor way to sort of privatize some of this, create more competition, I like that.

But I do understand people saying, I don't want this stuff in our backyard. And I think instead of just a pledge, a big tech saying, we promise that we won't use your electricity, we need something actually more in writing because a lot of people don't trust big tech. They can pledge all they want, but when push comes to shove, I need something in writing and in law that says that they're required to do this. I'm sure you saw three weeks ago. New York came out and said we have a moratorium on data centers, which is the same moratorium on racking.

So same moratorium, they'll build a solar center. People aren't happy about that. No one voted on that. But of course, it's environmentally an environmental program.

So every Democrat loves it. Here's what John Johnson said: He goes, No one's building in those states with these regulations. CUP 45. I'm a California native who very deliberately founded a tech company in Missouri because there are certain states like California and New York where we just don't want to be. All right.

So Kathy Hochl comes along and says, You can't. Build a data center in New York and I'm like, well, great. I also, in good conscience, cannot accept the Nobel Peace Prize this year. It's like, we don't want to be there anyway because power is 50% more expensive than the national average. There's not a great business environment to be there.

But really, the best place for these moratoriums to be considered so communities can actually figure out what's best for them, what's going to create the most benefit, is at the local level. I love this.

So I'm going to sound like my colleague here, Brian Brenberg, who says our founders were genius when they created the Federalist system. We're seeing in real time federal policies play out the Federalist system. States can compete with one another. Five, ten years from now, we're going to say, Where is New York's moratorium a good choice or a bad? Where did that data center go?

What tax revenue does that local county and that state now have that New York doesn't? And then we'll get to decide at the end of that 10-year period who was the winner and who wasn't. You brought up fracking. We know who the winner was. We know that New York was the loser.

We'll have to see if this plays out the same way. And this will be a way for states to play against each other the way they do with state income tax. And am I right that this creates jobs to build it, but not a lot of jobs to run it? Yes, you don't need a lot of people. Exactly.

You need a couple people for maintenance for the HVAC to make sure that it runs itself. But that's been the biggest pushback: you get a lot of construction, electrical engineering jobs to start. That's why Meta has sort of that multiple-week program where they will train up that blue-collar job, the trade job, to then go out and build it. People just want to make sure on the other end of that, once it is built, I need more than just a couple guys running the HVAC machine, making sure that the maintenance is.

Okay. If you look at data centers, the parking lots are really small because people aren't parking there. You're like, once the data center is built, it runs itself. And that is a legit question that I hear. Once they try to do, John Johnson says, I get buildings already there and I'll convert them.

Number two is it's tax revenue.

So just like that mall down the block, I don't love the traffic with the mall, but man, I love the tax break my town gets because we have the town there because the mall takes up a lot of the payment.

So the data center is going to be paying property tax. You just have to make sure that it does. And I think some of these states, if they're providing tax incentives or tax breaks, sometimes all of those tax incentives don't pay off. You want to make sure that I would just say, I don't need you to get a tax incentive. I just need you to create a pro-business environment where you can come in.

Data center shouldn't get a tax break any more than the farmer, any more than you or I should get a tax break. Let's create an equal playing field. If I create a pro-business, low-tax environment, the data center will come because fundamentally I'm a good state. I don't need to. Give them extra tax incentives on top of that.

They'll be paying the property taxes. They'll be paying the water, the electric bill, and then be let's use that to offset. Or maybe lower property tax regions for individuals in that county. All right.

So, who's going to be on your show today? Oh my gosh, we have Griff Jenkins. Love him. And then we have Gary Kalpaum rounding out our one o'clock hour.

So we have a little policy and then we're going to end on Marcus. Marcus have had a wild ride this week.

So we're going to hope that maybe we started to find a bottom and we can rally off of that given the big gains that we had yesterday. All right, Taylor Riggs, thanks so much. Co-host of the Big Money Show. Don't move. From breaking news to big name guests, Brian brings you insight you won't hear anywhere else.

You're listening to the Brian Kill Meat Show. The more you listen, the more you'll know. It's Brian Killmead. The presidency is supposed to be a public trust. Trump has turned it into the single most profitable scam of his.

Please sit down. Please sit down. That genocide, what can be more corrupt than that genocide? This is part of the setting con with you and Trump. Let's continue and let the pe the people didn't come to hear you.

So that is Chuck Schumer being shouted down. They're saying that he's conspiring with Donald Trump, just shows you how clueless that person is. They don't even speak at all, ever. They used to know each other when Chuck Schumer needed money and he was a businessman, but they don't now.

So, anyone who thinks that Chuck Schumer is colluding with Trump, they don't even have anything they coincide with. You would think on the Jewish situation, pro-Israel, you think they would coincide there. But instead, Senator Schumer's been critical of Netanyahu, didn't even stand up for the Jewish students at Columbia.

So he's being shouted down. If I'm him, don't even try to run for re-election. My sense, the mayor of New York City will run for senator if AOC doesn't. I think that Senator Schumer will just retire. He'll try to run, but.

I I I think is this the party just uh wants no part of him. They just don't want any part of them. And there's no doubt about it. It's embarrassing to be in your own city and got shot and get shouted down like that by something that you're not even proud of. You've gone out of your way not to back Israel, even though you wrote a book about Saudi Arabia wrote a book about anti-Semitism.

So we'll see what happens. Hamas, by the way, is sounding off about President Trump's claim that we are close to a deal in Gaza. And the deal is essentially this: they have agreed to put their guns away, put them into storage, and reveal their tunnels and their tunnel network in turn for the creation of a Palestinian state and the retreat. of the IDF from Gaza. We'll see.

I mean, are they going to do that? They don't want to say they're going to do it. But they are now pushing back. as Donald Trump announces that Amas' disarmament agreement is moving straight forward, they are asking for Israel to back out.

Now Israel will back out to a different line closer to their border, but just I just know this. That Israel has no interest in being in Gaza. They have no interest in being in Lebanon. They have no interest in even the Golan Heights, even though it just seems to be a dead area these days. All they want is security.

They don't want land. They ha they have enough. It's done. And they don't want Gaza. They walked away from it.

So the question now is, Israel, like the UAE, who is being heavily targeted in the spring, are now not touched by Iran. Because they don't want the reprisals. UAE has shown they will hit back. Saudi Arabia showed yesterday they'll hit back. And Saudi Arabia is assembling a multinational maritime defense coalition to protect the Red Sea shipping from the Houthi rebels.

Iran-backed Iraqi militias are now discussing how to respond to the U.S. Saudi airstrikes. Why? Because those militias are the ones with the rockets, the Kitab Hezbollah. They have the distant rockets from drumroll, please, Iran.

And they're the ones that are hitting Saudi Arabia for the Aramiko plant as well as trying to stop shipping in the Red Sea.

So, they're going to get a coalition of Gulf states to patrol the Red Sea. I love it. They said that they do have another option, it's the Suez Canal, but some of these big tankers. Are too big to go through that canal, and it's not gonna work a long time anyway. They've also managed to repipe a lot of his stuff, so there are gonna be pipelines to avoid both the strait and I believe the Red Sea.

But until then. Saudi Arabia is showing they will fight, and the U.S. is showing they're going to finish them off. I cannot wait.

Meanwhile, we have a lot going on. I'm going to get the perspective from the Arab perspective of this whole thing with Hussein Mansoor next. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. I appreciate that we had to strike back because Iran tried to kill Americans in Jordan a couple of nights ago, but I don't think more strikes on the same types of targets are going to change the strategic calculus of the regime.

I think the president and his advisors need to take a step back and use fewer weapons against more significant targets like regime targets or economic targets to actually start moving the needle. That is General Tygart. He's talking about, hey, listen, we've been doing these return strikes for 14 straight days, took four days off, and then hit him again. He said, let's just go back hard. I understand the sentiment.

Hussein Abu Bakr Mansoor joins us now, Senior Fellow at Jinsa's Jermunder Center, where his work focuses on the intersection of Arab politics, Islamist movements, and regional security. Hussein, welcome. Hello, Brian.

So what do you think about Saudi Arabia getting together with other Gulf states in order to act comprehensively against Iran? after and open up the Red Sea from the Houthis. This is pretty unprecedented. It is, and it really marks a shift in the Saudi position since the beginning of the war. The Saudis just wanted this war to be contained and wanted it to be end as soon as possible.

I mean, this is why they worked with the Pakistanis, one of their closest allies, to mediate an agreement between Iran and the United States to get the war to an end and reopen the straits, the Strait of Hormuz. But now that Iran seems to be escalating all across the region, and particularly in the Red Sea around Babel Mandab, where now the Saudis are completely dependent in order to get any oil out. I mean, after the closure of Hormuz, they shifted their oil production through the bypass lines that then go into their port city Yanba on the Red Sea, and then the oil comes down through Babil Mandab Strait.

Now, the Houthis blockading this basically are halting all the revenue streams of the Saudi, and this is something Saudi Arabia cannot. Not tolerate and thus they have no option but to act. Right.

So I think that right now, is it open? If you had a merchant ship, can you get through the Red Sea?

Well, it depends. I mean, if you have some agreement with the Houthis, or if you're a Chinese ship, you can get through Babel Nandab. But we have Saudi tankers who've been hit through the straits. And as we know, once things get this way, you're not going to have a lot of tankers that are going to risk, and a lot of crews that are going to risk passing through. And already, we know that for the past two years, there have been a massive reduction because exactly because of the Houthi activities through the Red Sea, a massive reduction of Red Sea traffic.

So the Houthis, why do you think they got in now?

Well, the whole thing is As a matter of fact, there is actually a sequence to what happened. I think ultimately this is part of the Iranian regional escalation against the United States. I think Iran thinks basically it's winning, that the United States reached its own ceiling and maximum of what it's willing to do in the war. And thus now the Iranians believe that they are on the counteroffensive. That is, activate as many pressure points in the region as possible.

possible to have pressure on the United States and its allies. And this is why the Houthi front has been activated, as well as the Iraqi front. And not to, of course, not to forget, even now Egypt is being pulled into this escalation.

So I believe that this is a regional Iranian strategy to get everything that they want out of this war. Right.

But what they're doing is uniting the opposition, aren't they?

Well, I hope that this is what they are doing. I mean, the the problem is that well the Saudi I'll tell you right now, Saudi Arabia assembles a multinational maritime defense coalition to protect the Red Sea and Iranian missile threats. Doesn't that show a coalition building? It does show a coalition building and the Saudi convening power to try to bring all of these forces. But the problem is, first of all, you don't have a United States leadership inside that coalition.

The UAE, for instance, is not part, and the Saudis and the UE have been having a rift for nearly a year now. And also, the Saudis, since the beginning of this year, they've been assembling this other coalition that's known as the Quad of the R4 or R4 of Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt, and Pakistan in order to provide some security architecture for the region. And despite Everything that's been going on, we haven't seen this actually responding to the events or activating in any way.

So, while this is a positive development, I mean, the Saudis definitely need to bring in as many powers as possible to try to help them maintain the freedom of navigation in Babel Mandab. It's still to be seen if this is indeed going to be able to confront the Houthis. What would you think the best next move for the U.S. is?

Well, I think the United States really has to look at the situation and reassess and understand that the Iranians are probably right in terms of that we've reached a maximum of with given the current conditions of what we can do, and they are using this against us. And probably the only way out of this is actually to find a new strategy that changes the conditions and changes the assumptions of the Iranians about the U.S. and forces them to recalculate. And that means that the president needs to confound and upend these Iranian assumptions about what the United States is willing to tolerate or willing to risk.

So here's what General Jack Keen said, cut for. What are the prospects? Listen, we go back to major combat operations. There's got a couple of months left to do it. This is Israel in the United States.

Our target list has expanded rather significantly because of intelligence that we have. Our capability has increased since we stopped Epic Fury almost four months ago on the Israeli side and on the U.S. side.

So it's going to be much more comprehensive, much more massive. It'll force, I believe, a pathway for the regime to collapse. And we can also conduct covert activities with the CIA and the Mossad to help break apart that regime and also provide some assistance to the Iranian people.

So he wants to he thinks they're going to look to amp it up. And go back to maybe Epic Fury II. If the IDF's involved, that's the superior intelligence. And there'll be a lot of, I would assume, some assassinations in some of these leaders, some Vahidi on down. And the Supreme Leader, I don't even know if he's still alive.

I think this would be probably the best strategy that we can follow, but only if we commit to actually finishing it off. I mean, one of the problems of Epic Fury, one, that the combat operations really stopped before they should have. We only do this because Iran, here's the thing. Uh, once we start, Iran knows it's gonna is fighting for its survival. They're gonna escalate with every they're gonna come at you and our allies, the Gulf primarily, um, desalination uh plants, their energy infrastructure, they're gonna come at it with everything that they have.

Now, the Gulf Arabs they really do not want to do this, they don't want to lose um their energy infrastructure, all of the all of this uh security risks to their populations.

However, um, I am I am almost certain that they would be willing to take that pain if it was guaranteed that we'll ultimately go into resolve the problems and provide a solution to this threat next to them.

However, if we're not really going to follow through, um, then I don't think that the Gulf Arabs would agree to this. Do you think that there's a way to do it? I know it's easy said than done, to somehow arm the population. 80 to 85 percent of the population hates this government. We watched the hanging.

That are taking place on a regular basis, who's saying you got better context than most. Do you believe there's a way to arm the population? I think there are ways. I think there are options that the Israelis had, especially, of course, talked about the Kurdish options, option in the north. I think, in general, there are many options to strangle this regime.

A land blockade is one of them, to strangle it economically and financially and ensure that it's not able to maintain its power. And this will allow, I believe, the people to come out. One of the, I think, the most significant losses of the really misconceived MOU is the demoralization that it did to a lot of Iranians who depended on the United States to degrade this criminal regime, but all of a sudden we stopped and we were willing to negotiate with them. I can't imagine how demoralizing that was. But in order to get momentum back into the protest movement, I think Iranians have to see the United States truly.

Fully committed. As I said, a lot of the assumptions about us have to be changed. That we indeed have resolved and we are indeed willing to see this through. You know, as I was saying, it's amazing how much unrest is tied back to Iran. Hamas, it with Palestinians.

Hezbollah. Back to Iran. Islamic Jihad, back to Iran. The Houthis, back to Iran. No longer do they have Syria as an outlet.

They definitely are an adversary now.

So they really have the Russians and the Chinese and the North Koreans. Are really their allies. And they made sure the Gulf states, who might have been straddling the line. or making sure that they know. Uh we don't want you as a friend anyway.

We're willing to risk that to go for American bases.

So, that gives that when people look at the Middle East and how close it could be to some type of prosperous situation. Because if you look at Saudi Arabia, if I told you 15, 20 years ago that Wahhabism would be put on the back burner and the economy would be on the front burner and education and women's rights would begin to rise, you would have said, Brian, you're crazy. You don't understand the Middle East. But that's what really has happened. And we look at how the UAE has made progress.

Bahrain has never really been a terror problem. Do you see the potential there in the Middle East through all the tumult? Of course, Brian, I'll tell you what. On October 6th, 2023, we were on a great trajectory. The Saudis were in negotiations with the Biden administration to sign a historic normalization agreement with Israel that would have been truly transformative to the Middle East, not just because of the peace and the end of this truly sterile and sad conflict that's been going on needlessly for too long.

But think about all the infrastructure agreements, all the regional integrations of security, intelligence, economics, and so on and so forth. And then it was the Iranians and their allies and their proxies in the Gaza Strip, the Hamas terrorist organization, who managed to completely halt, throw a massive wrench in the wheel by the massacres of the morning of October 7th that Hamas committed. This is exactly what Iran does not want. Iran has seen that this is a possibility. And of course, Course, that's the possibility that they do not want.

What Iran wants, it wants to dominate the Middle East. They want the United States out of the region completely. They want to have the Gulf Arabs under their thumb to blackmail them and extort them in every way possible. And they want to destroy Israel. That's what they chant pretty much every day in Tehran, the regime supporters.

So that regime is what's been disrupting through this massive militia's network, the vision that you just outlined, which I believe, if that regime falls, it will become a real possibility for the region. Hussein Mansoor is our guest, a senior fellow at the Jinza Gurmander Center.

So, Hamas, it looks like they've agreed, according to reports. To disarm. If the IDF backs out to the yellow line and maybe eventually out, which they would do. eventually, uh and in turn there's going to be an international force going in there. Are you optimistic?

What do you think the next step is? I am extremely cautiously optimistic. First, the agreement, we have to be a little accurate. I mean, the word in the media was reported as a disarmament agreement. It's not.

It's an agreement about producing a disarmament roadmap. That is the agreed that this is.

Now, that's actually big. They agreed that this is an end goal, but the agreement itself does not produce that. It produces a 14-day period for them to sit down and negotiate the sequence in which they want this to happen.

Now, there are many challenges to actually for this happening. First, we have to remember that these didn't say that they would disarm. They said that they will give their weapons to an inventory or storage, basically an escrow.

So that's not really disarmament. They're just going to put it in an escrow with the Palestinian civilian administration. Another problem is that they have zero. Trust, of course, from Israel, understandably, with Hamas. Will Hamas actually honor all of this?

And the Israelis do not want to see themselves withdrawing first before Hamas gives up their weapon. The Israelis want the sequence the other way around. They want to see Hamas given up their weapons and then they will withdraw.

So there are actually a lot of landmines here to navigate politically and militarily. It's a good start that we know that this is Hamas now agreed, that the end goal is that they will be no longer military power. But ultimately, as I said, there's a lot of things to navigate. Also, you have mediators who have different interests. A lot of Arab mediators indeed want to see Hamas completely gone.

The Egyptians want to see them gone. The Saudis want to see them gone. The Emiratis want to see them gone. But they're not so much the Qataris and not so much the Turks. The Qataris and the Turks want to see Hamas becoming a political movement that still has force inside the Palestinians and disarm, but remain as a Muslim Brotherhood political movement.

But here also, you have different visions for the mediators themselves.

Now, we'll see what will come out of this. Again, it's a good start, but there are still a lot of obstacles in the way. Right, and Lebanon, too. I just think if you'll be a lot more reasonable when they realize the money's dried up.

So, is the money drying up for Hamas? And I know the priority has always been Hezbollah over Hamas. Is it really drying up for them? It seems so. First of all, the Iranians in a very bad situation at the moment, and the Iranians it's important to bring the Iranian angle here.

The Iranians, of course, will not want Hamas to disarm, especially given the conditions of the war.

Now the Qataris and the Turks have been pressuring Hamas because of their attempt to bring a deal for President Trump. They kicked Hamas' leadership, especially Turkey, some of the members of Hamas leadership, to punish them for not agreeing to the agreement at the beginning.

So Hamas definitely doesn't have the resources that they used to do. And they are probably running out of finances to pay their own people, and that's why they are willing to negotiate the way they are. Fascinating time. A lot of moving parts, and I can't wait to see what emerges from Camp David. Hopefully, we go back and finish the job, Hussein.

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Hi, everyone. So glad you're there. It's the Brian Kilmeet Show. We have a lot to discuss today. Doran Spellman's going to be joining us too.

He's a spokesperson for the Prime Minister, former VP, City of David, and author of When the Stones Speak. Also, Judge Glock is going to be with us too, Director of Research and a Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, where he specializes in economic policy and infrastructure and technology. And we could talk a lot about the data centers that are causing some anxiety here, but absolutely necessary to move forward with AI.

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Number one. What are the prospects? Listen, we go back to major combat operations. There's got a couple of months left to do it. This is Israel in the United States.

Our target list has expanded. It'll force, I believe, a pathway for the regime to collapse. Yep, that is General Jack Keene with me an hour ago. The war is spreading, and it's likely a good thing. Iran has targeted Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Egypt, Jordan this week, and drones with drones and rockets.

And I think in the long run, this is going to let the Gulf states know who their real enemy is, and they can't just go along to get along. And that's why Saudi Arabia has called a loose coalition to work together to reopen the Red Sea. Durance Spielman joins us now. Duran, welcome back.

So good to see you, Brian. All right.

First off, what about the news today? The president has put on Truth Social that Hamas has agreed to store or. Or put down their weapons in turn for the IDF leaving while telling us where the tunnels are located and they could move forward with some type of Palestinian government and international force. How true are all those scenarios? I think anybody who just reaches back not that long ago and remembers what Hamas is capable of, this isn't dealing with Switzerland.

It's not dealing with having lunch in Geneva. This is a brutal regime. Who literally massacred and butchered Israeli people. And therefore, anything we look at has to guarantee they don't have the ability to do that again, Brian. And that really boils down to one thing.

And this is what the State of Israel insists on: that before anything, Hamas. Absolutely and truly. Without playing any games, disarms. And unless that guarantee takes place, Israel cannot gamble. with the lives of our citizens.

So you just talked to the Prime Minister. How does he feel? I spoke to the Prime Minister, and the Prime Minister has been very clear in Israel's security, and he's been very strong in Israel's security. Israel right now is in Gaza. We're holding a buffer zone in Gaza, which is critical.

And I'll tell you why it's critical, because we know, Brian, based on intelligence. That Hamas, they've had the last eight months to try to turn over a new leaf to disarm, as they're supposed to do, and they've been doing the exact opposite. The last eight months, Brian, they have not moved an inch. In their ideology. They've been recruiting new terrorist fighters.

They've been gathering weapons. We've uncovered plans of them trying to do another wave of terrorism in Israel. And therefore, Prime Minister Netanyahu has been very clear. And therefore, the plan that came out does not reflect. Our Changes to that plan that we issued to the Americans.

It doesn't yet reflect them. The plan has to be bulletproof.

So that Hamas cannot come over the border and threaten Israeli people. And again, that boils down to getting rid of those guns. There must be no guns in Gaza.

So you haven't seen any movement at all, even though the word is that they've agreed. Hamas is playing Game Sprine. Hamas, it's time for them to stop playing games. The charade is over. We know what does it mean, Brian, for there to be movement.

Hamas committed, as did Israel, to the 20-point plan. The bottom line of that plan. Is that they get rid of their weapons. I mean, imagine the police are in a standoff with terrorists inside a home, right?

So we're the good guys, we're the police. The terrorists are Hamas. The police wouldn't lower their weapons until the terrorists lower their weapons. Right now, Hamas is still aiming their weapons at Israel. They haven't disarmed at all.

And therefore, they haven't shown even an iota. And it's not really surprising. I mean, I don't think we should look at a terror regime and think that they're Malta Teresa. They haven't even made the most feeble attempts to show that they really want anything having to do with the plan that's been put forth. I understand on Wednesday you took out one of the commanders from October 7th.

Is that correct? That is correct. And you know, we see these people. And they're not only commanders of October 7th, the amazing thing is, Brian, after everything that's happened, after they massacred Israelis, after we entered Gaza, these same commanders have not in any way, shape, or form changed. They're up to once again threatening Israeli soldiers.

We can see them. We see them gathering weapons. We see them digging new tunnels. And therefore, anytime we see an imminent threat against Israel, We stopped that threat, which we wish we could have done on October 7th, but we learned the lesson. We will never, Israel will never allow a threat to metastasize again on any of our borders.

And therefore, we're standing strong. And it's not that we want to be there, Brian. You know, we send our sons and daughters into Gaza. It's not a fun place to be, but they stand proud. This generation is incredible because they know that behind them are their families.

And it's actually an awesome thing to see this young generation in Israel that are such a golden generation protecting the country by standing on that line in Gaza and making sure that Hamas can't threaten Israel.

So There's two lines, I understand. There's a white yawn and a yellow line. And they asked the IDF, they said they'll back up to the yellow line. Do you want to describe that in terms of slowly getting out of Gaza if certain things are done?

Well, I'll tell you what would happen if we moved back, and this is really the policy of the State of Israel, and I've discussed this at the highest levels. Hamas is just waiting for us to move back. to the yellow line. To move back from our positions, there is absolutely no doubt. As you can imagine, Hamas continually talks about committing another massacre in Israel.

All they would do the moment we move back right now, and they still have their guns and nothing's changed, not their ideology, they still have their guns, they would just move forward.

So, Hamas is waiting for us to move back so they can move forward. And moving forward means we have to understand the distances here. It's not like dealing with an enemy that's 2,000 miles away. Brian, from the border of these communities, from these farms. The distance between them and this line is a few miles.

So, even giving up one mile and allowing Hamas to move forward is putting Israeli families, and again, these families are only rebuilding their homes, they're clearing out the blood and the rubble. And putting another enemy right on the doorstep. And the Israeli people don't want that. And I will tell you, I'm incredibly proud to be working for this prime minister because he so has the interests of the Israeli people. In his absolute priority, and he's not going to allow this to happen, and he shouldn't.

So the president put this on Truth Social. A few hours ago. Today, the Board of Peace reached an historic agreement with the complete disarmament of Hamas and all other armed groups in Gaza. This is a monumental step forward for peace and security. The agreement is a critical step towards Gaza finally being governed by a new Palestinian government that will work closely with the Board of Peace.

Being the Palestinian people, all the same, Israel will have the security it deserves, with Gaza no longer used as a base for terror.

So obviously the President feels more optimistic than you. The president, by the way, I really have to say that there has never been anybody in the White House like President Trump. He truly is the greatest friend of Israel. He's incredibly close to the Prime Minister. I was there as soon as the Prime Minister left the meeting, and I asked him, How was the meeting in Washington?

And he said, this was one of the best meetings I've ever had. They've known each other for 40 years. President Trump has acknowledged that Israel's enemies and the enemies of the U.S., most importantly, Iran. Where he's just so courageous and standing alone only with Israel to fight this enemy. And I have no doubt, nor does the Prime Minister, that President Trump wants what's best for Israel.

In this specific case, Brian, He's not in the weeds. And I understand it. He's managing the most important country in the world and multiple wars. In the weeds, we have intelligence. And the intelligence tells us that Hamas is planning another attack.

and the rearming to do so. And it will be historic. What President Trump says will be historic. As soon as Hamas does the very simple task, Of rearming. And by rearming, Sorry.

By disarming. And by disarming. It does not mean that they are going to check their guns at the door and then be able to take them out whenever they want. Disarming means their guns are gone, no guns in Gaza. And as soon as that happens, and I believe that the President will support the Prime Minister in this, once there are no guns in Gaza, we can look to a much brighter future for Israelis and for the Gaza people.

Right now, the President is considering all options when it comes to Iran. Do you believe if it comes down to Epic Fury 2, that type of. Attack, not the fourteen days it just happened, with the twenty-four hours. Do you believe the IDF will be involved? I know that we're standing ready to be involved.

I mean, you know, the president is the major partner here, Brian, and he's calling the shots. On this battle with Iran. It went back in June 2025. We had launched, and the president then came on the 12th day and dropped those incredible bombs on Fordot and the other nuclear sites. 2025, I'm sorry, 2025.

Right now, the president is absolutely leading, and we trust we agree on the outcome.

So the president has said he wants to try, if he wants to try diplomacy. We will go along. If he wants to try kinetic, we will go along. If he calls on us, our Our boys and girls, it's incredible. They're willing to fly 2,000 miles in fighter jets over crazy territory in order to attack this regime because we know that this regime threatens us and both.

Prime Minister Netanyahu, and this was reaffirmed in the White House, along with President Trump, agree that there's no outcome. That leaves Iran with nuclear weapons. It's just a no go. And since we have that commitment and we trust him so much, we're willing to stand and stand by his side in every scenario. How do they still have weapons?

How do they still have drones? How do they still have rockets after What you guys did for Epic Fury and you had a different name for it, something like Lion. And how are they still armed? You know, as much as they've dwindled. As much as their arms have dwindled and we've taken them out and reduced their stockpiles by 90%, that 10%.

Is still there at 10. You know, it could be hiding under someone's home. It's a huge country. The country is around 40 times the size of Israel. I mean, if you even overlay it over America, it's massive.

And so, therefore, it's finding needles and haystacks and it would require more kinetic energy. And, you know, this is what this regime is about. From the time in June 2025, Midnight Hammer, what we call Rising Lion, from the moment it stopped, they immediately went back, Brian, to regathering weapons. I mean, it's unbelievable. It's just like just like Hamas and Gaza.

The moment that they could kind of turn a new leaf and try to do something better for the Iranian people, what did they do? They try to rebuild the nuclear program, gather drones. We found boats with components in them. We stopped boats. The U.S.

stopped boats with components, but they immediately went back to try to rearm. But the important thing. The most important thing. Is that they don't have that uranium. That enriched uranium is taken out of Iran so that they cannot produce a nuclear weapon, which is what they want to do, so that they can hold the world hostage and, God forbid, do worse.

Yeah, I guess so. The other thing would be. Do you believe that this current regime, I guess run by the IRGC, is more problematic and threatening than the Grand Aatola and his regime? I think that they are not more threatening. I think that they're the same.

I think they carry the very same ideology. The difference is. That the Ayatollah Menayiz regime was seen to be, there would be disaster if it was attacked, and it would reap absolute. Bedlam all over the world and Israel and the United States showed that that regime was, while it has strength, much of its war was really a paper tiger and that its skies, it has no aerial protection anymore. Israel and the United States are able to strike freely.

Over the skies of Iran, and we've taken out all of the leadership.

So the current Mustabah. He doesn't have any commanders to turn to. They've all been taken out.

So he's turning to one guy. He checks his little list. Oh, that guy's been taken out. He goes to number two. That guy's been taken out.

He's now at number four, which is the guy who is repairing the refrigerator inside one of the offices.

So it's a different game, but the intent is the same. And what that means is we have an incredible opportunity. Israel and the United States. To bring about a lasting solution whereby Iran cannot threaten the world with nuclear weapon. And the president has shown enormous courage, and so has Prime Minister Netanyahu.

And I think we're going to look back, Brian, five years, 10 years, 100 years, and say this was a time when really only these two men, no one else has come to the fore, despite the president's request. These two men in our countries are really standing against. The greatest evil, and God willing, we're going to stop it before it can get anything. This wave has the UAE was target number one. Israel was target number two.

The UAE has not been hit over the last month. Neither of Israel. Do you think there's a connection there? Why is that? They know, first of all, Israel and the UAE have the closest of friendships, and we've shared technology with them.

And therefore, you know, they're protected and they know that if they strike Israel, The Prime Minister has said that will be the sorriest day of their lives. Israel will respond fiercely. Against Iran. And so, therefore, they can fire their weapons like they do at civilian centers and at United States bases all over the Middle East, Kuwait, Bahrain, Jordan, firing it at incense. They know if they cross the line with Israel.

We will respond and go directly to the nerve center. And therefore, they're thinking twice before they do it. If they had a nuclear weapon, God only knows. I'm sure that they would probably try. But right now, they're deterred.

And therefore, this is the time when your enemy is off balance. When the enemy is off balance, it's the time to use whatever power at your hands, whether it's diplomatic or military, to make sure that they cannot stand up again and strike you back. Gotcha. Dorren Spielman, thanks so much. It's going to be an interesting time when it emerges from the battle plan from Camp David over the weekend.

Dorren, it has so much at stake. Spokesman for the Prime Minister's office, former VP of City of David, and author of When the Stones Speak. Thanks so much. Have a great weekend, sir. Thank you so much, Brian.

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Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. If fewer than three out of ten Democratic voters have a favorable view of Chuck Schumer, do you think that he should lead your party in the Senate?

Well, he's got a very tough job. And so my view is we should get through the 2026 election, see what voters say, but also at the same time, be prepared. For the presidential election, because it would be really good, of course, to win the Senate and the House. But ultimately, we need to make sure we have a Democrat in the White House. Yeah, that'll be the scariest thing ever.

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And going out against Marco Rubio, one of the most talented secretaries of states ever.

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I'll do a United States tour. It's a red, white, and blue night that you're like no other. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. There is a lot of pushback against data centers and communities, and there's, I think, a really good reason for that.

I mean, it is true. that multi-megawatt and even approaching gigawatt data centers create. A lot of friction in communities. They create a war for resources and power. They can be built in ways that are really bad for the environment.

And per square foot, they create. A tremendously low amount of jobs after the initial construction projects are done.

So there is real tension to work out there. And honestly, it remains to be seen how profitable a gigawatt campus can be. And they will say that is John Johnson talking about data centers and what you should look out for. And there's some bipartisan worry on each on both sides, whether it's where they're being built or how they're being built or the sustainable jobs, whether it's taking up farmland or whether it's being too close to cities, or they have to, you know, what kind of water level do they use? What kind of power are they going to need?

Judge Glock joins us now, the Director of Research and the Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, where he specializes in economic policy, infrastructure, and technology. Judge, it's one of those rare things where I see kind of Republicans and Democrats, more Democrats, but they're saying, hey, What's going on with these data centers? I need to discuss this first. That seems healthy. Absolutely right, Brian.

If you look at this, this is an unbelievably new industry. 20 years ago, even 10 years ago, obviously we weren't talking about this in much of the U.S. And since the release of ChatGPT in 2022, it's absolutely exploded.

So what you're seeing is this new explosion in data centers across the United States. A lot of local concerns of this are, as there often are, with a new industry that's growing and building in local communities. And I think what a lot of people want is transparency from a lot of these companies building them. But there's also concerns around just the visual impact, the noise, and some other things. But I think...

Not enough of the stories getting out about the benefits of these data centers for local communities, because they can, in some circumstances, be absolutely huge.

So let's talk about that. We know that immediately to build them, you need pipe fitters, you need plumbers, you need electricians, you need people. And but once you build them, the benefit I understand the community is the tax dollars because it's going to be sustainable. But you're not going to need a big staff, correct? Yeah, which is a plus and a minus in one sense.

So some of these finished data centers really only have a few dozen people working for them. You know, for a very large tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of square feet, that's not a lot for a local economic development project. But they do throw off just incredible amounts of tax revenue. They really, and I profiled before Loudoun County, Virginia, where they're paying almost half of all taxes in the county, allowed the county to reduce the tax rate by 40% over the past 10 to 15 years. There's other places like More County in Oregon, where they're paying a third of all property taxes.

So these can be these massive benefits that can ideally help lower some of those local property tax rates. And because there's so few people working there, there's not a ton of traffic coming up. There's not a lot of requirements for police or other services.

So they cost very little for these local communities to support. but they give a lot of tax revenue.

So, when the president signed an executive order saying supply your own power, I'm thinking those. Those mini nuclear power plants that they're talking about, green lighting. What are you thinking? Where does the power generate from for the data centers?

Well, a lot of it's going to come from good old fossil fuels. You're going to see a lot more gas turbines be restarted. Obviously, a lot of these data center companies are excited about the possibility of nuclear. You actually saw a big deal signed in Pennsylvania to restart the old Three Mile Island nuclear power plant, which some of your listeners may remember had suffered not a meltdown, but a minor nuclear accident back in the 70s. But the demand for power of these is so high, they're just starting up anything they can, anywhere they can.

And on the whole, I think that's going to be good for American energy and electricity. But it's also good to make sure these data centers actually pay the cost of the electricity they're consuming, which hasn't always been the case. But most of the time, you see these data centers actually doing a real effort to make sure there's new power coming online along with the data center.

So the CEO of Potmos Hosting. They built smaller ones. And he says that he has a huge problem with the behemoth companies building these monstrous data centers. I want to get your take, but I want you to hear his point of view. Cut 44.

The real sweet spot is that Goldilocks zone for a data center. And data centers can be built in a way that's really sustainable. Pat Mos built the first actually assessed clean energy data center in history, but that happens in like the 10 to 50 megawatt zone. That's also where the economics make the most sense. And we think that's where the market's really going.

And I think there is rightful friction and hesitation against big tech promises. And so we'll see where that happens. But it might surprise you to know that I'm not entirely opposed to data center moratoriums of 100 megawatts or more.

What do you think about that, Judge? Do you need the hundred megawatts or more?

Well, I'm a big believer in capitalism, so I think the market's going to settle this question. Obviously, a lot of big companies in America think you need these. You're looking at what now appears to be a $50 billion data center being built in Richland Parish, Louisiana. And yeah, you see hundreds of thousands of square feet. You see over a gigawatt in power use.

So many multiples of what the speaker there was mentioning. I think he is talking his book a little bit, which is understandable. He's worried about competition from those big data centers. And there's certainly going to be a place for those smaller ones in the future. But we're going to need the entire range of data centers for all the things we're going to keep doing and doing more online.

And Judge, you know, it's no secret that it's harder to build things in these blue states. In New York, they just had a moratorium, right? Not going to build it. We're going to build a solar plant center, have a solar farm. We're not going to build a data center.

And in California, it's almost impossible.

So, and they want to get rid of gas cars.

So, that's not going to be possible. It's going to be up to the next governor to realize it, just like it's not possible with all these other pie-in-the-sky promises. What's going to happen to states like that when it comes to having AI and when it comes to storage your phone bills and everything else are going to be more expensive. Yeah, it's a real shame because states like New York, which are seeing increased taxes, which are seeing increased out migration to other states, which are actually seeing higher electricity prices, not from data centers, but from all of the green energy mandates they're putting on their electricity sector. And something that could actually help pay a lot of these local taxes could make a lot of people in the state unbelievably wealthy.

Just for example, you see many people in Pennsylvania or elsewhere selling their land for millions or tens of millions of dollars for these data centers. Totally foregoing all of those benefits.

Now, again, I understand why some local communities may have concerns about the noise or the placement or any particular aspects of the data center, but should just foreclose that possibility in time. Yeah, absolutely crazy. They're missing out on one of the biggest booms in American history and cutting off all of their local taxpayers, all of the workers who could benefit from this. And frankly, there are a lot of those are going to move to other places that are more welcoming of economic growth. Yeah, I mean, there's no doubt about it, but we already saw this with fracking, didn't we?

when we saw the blood blue state to say, no, we're not going to do that. And we then we watch Ohio. And we watch Pennsylvania and we watch Oklahoma literally and Texas, of course, boom because of fracking. You know, you do environmental studies, you be smart about it, and then you build it. Absolutely, Brian.

I don't understand, frankly, why some people aren't angrier about the fracking bans. I know they are, but there's lots of people that are living in tiny, you know, two-bedroom houses or even trailers that are sitting on what could be $10 million land, and the government's refusing them to get that money. I would be just spitting bullets, and you're actually going to see a similar situation with data centers here. A lot of working-class Americans out there who could provide for generations if they were just allowed to develop are being shut off just like they were in the fracking situation. Judge Glark is with us.

He's director of research and a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.

So Judge, the other thing is pipelines. You know, we watch pipelines, they have to be built around New York. To get in Massachusetts, and they got to go getting oil and gas from other countries, while Pennsylvania says, no problem, bring it on.

So that's one thing. I think New Jersey is also a problem with that too. That to me is really ignorance when it comes to pipelines. Yes, of course, if there's some type of terror attack, they might hit a pipeline. That might be a problem, but that's a terror attack.

I know the president was talking to doing some barter with the governor to get it done. Do you know where that's at? I don't know where that particular situation is at, but you're entirely right that it's an incredible own goal or kind of shooting themselves in the foot in these circumstances. One, for oil pipelines, the alternative to moving it on a pipeline is moving it by truck, which wastes more energy, which is more dangerous, which all the other things. And on the natural gas sort of pipelines, this is the foremost sector of growth in the energy field right now.

Natural gas is what's powering a lot of these new data centers. It's what's powering the buildup. It's very quick. It's relatively clean, actually. There's a lot of benefits to this.

And all of the people that maybe five, six years ago that were hoping to move the entire electricity sector green now have to at least privately admit that's impossible. We have an unbelievable growth in energy. These data centers do use a lot. It's about 6% of all electricity right now. And it's going to grow to about 20% in a decade.

This is just a huge amount of electricity. And there's no way to meet that without pipelines, without more natural gas, without more fracking that you already discussed. And the idea that they can do this by doing what New York did, not only banning new data centers, but shutting down the Indian Point nuclear power plant, trying to solve this all through solar power panels and windmills. It's just foolish. There's no way it's going to happen.

And those more pro-development states are going to figure this out and get those gains.

So where are we at with nuclear? I know the President's efforting to pick up the pace. When it comes to getting nuclear, we know it burns clean, and we know everyone's wary of the risk.

So your thoughts about where we're at with nuclear, because now the Europeans are realizing they made a mistake in overreacting to what happened in Japan. And they're realizing it too, aren't they? Yeah, so one of the simplest things we can do is stop closing down the nuclear power plants we have. I mean, this is an absolutely insane thing. Whatever your opinions on starting new plants up, the fact that we have states like California with Diablo and New York with Indian Point, actually closing them down is just Absolutely foolish, and I really can't see the logic to it.

Even for if you're a climate change fanatic, that was green energy for them. And yet, nonetheless, they still forced the closure.

So, stopping that is important. I think states are realizing, again, say, starting up the Three Mile Island in Pennsylvania, that this can happen and they can do it.

Now, the big change is actually in the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, which President Trump is pointing some very strong people right there that are. single-mindedly focus on making sure America leads in nuclear energy. And I actually talked with the chairman not so long ago, and they're removing the unnecessary paperwork. They're removing the tests that don't have anything to do with contemporary nuclear power. They're encouraging what these call small modular reactors that, to your point, can power some of these data centers ideally.

I'm pretty bullish in the long run on this. There's a lot of possibility. And with our energy demand being what it is, we have to rely on all sorts of possible power. And nuclear has got to be part of it. And Judge Clark, I do not want to get you into politics, but I just want to know, if the Democrats do get back into power, Has the green fever broken?

Do you still think we're going to have people making statements like we're going to get rid of oil and gas cars and we're going to exist without data centers and we're going to everyone's going to have a solar panel in their living room? Do you think that Al Gore mania, what Joe Biden ran on, is that fever broken for both sides? I think it's going to be mainly rhetorical from now on in the sense of they're going to talk a lot about it, but in terms of actually pushing policies, especially at the federal level, that are going to drive up prices, they know the American public is not going to put up with that right now. They were pushing this in the 2010s or early 2020s when you had basically stable electricity prices. But with the recent inflation, which the increase in a lot of the green energy mandates that they've been putting on in recent years, you've seen a very sharp increase in electricity prices.

Frankly, actually in the states that have seen the least data center growth, which contradicts those people who say this is all because of data centers, and the idea that they could actually transition the economy away from this while having this incredibly growth electricity, I think privately they know that's impossible. Yeah. I just hope that fever is broken. We can get back to the real world and stop debating the Paris Climate Change Summit. Nobody brings that up anymore.

I hope it changes. It stays that way. Judge, not only are you a fountain of information, you even have a fantastic radio and television voice. And I am very jealous. Judge, thanks so much for joining us.

Oh, thanks so much, Brian. It was a lot of fun. Back in a moment. From breaking news to big name guests, Brian brings you insight you won't hear anywhere else. You're listening to the Brian Kill Meat Show.

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Well, I know. I know that upsets a lot of your viewers and a lot of your founders. But I think it's a great thing. The question is, where does your trash outlet come from and who's funding it? And now you're sticking a microphone in my face.

Are you okay with Prime Minister Netanyahu? I just love killing Hamas leadership. That is John Fetterman being harassed by some pro-Palestinian outlet who wants to know how he feels about Bibi Netanyahu being what they say is a terrorist or should be arrested by the ICC. And Fetterman will just take that on. One thing, he is, like me, he's vehemently pro-Israel.

Not that every country is perfect, we're not perfect, but the thing about us, we try to be. And your most criticism on Israel is that they're defending themselves. They don't wait to be victimized. You hit them once, it could hit you 10 times. I don't care how popular it is.

And you'll find out when Netanyahu's gone and the next prime minister's in, whenever that is. You'll realize if the guy or the woman is worth anything, which they will be, they will do the same thing. Their different policies will be on economics and maybe messaging. But when it comes to security, there's not a sliver of difference between any party that emerges from Israel. You might think Netanyahu is the worst, I don't.

He's out for his country. There's nothing wrong with that. And he's got a great relationship with the president.

So good, the president will get mad. And he'll get mad at the president. And it doesn't matter. That's cold to respect.

Okay, you felt like I went too far. I feel like you got a point of view. How do we move forward? And they move forward. Right now, the President of the United States is having a cabinet meeting, but he's having at Camp David.

What I think substantive meetings will take place afterwards, and it'll take place about going forward With uh Epic Fury 2, they're gonna really look to pound Iran once and for all. And I think there'll be convulsions and there'll be some proxy action. But in the end, we've got to bring this thing to a head. Because the current situation is Iran thinks by surviving, Iran thinks by surviving, they're winning, and we're not hearing enough. We're not hearing enough about.

The hits that we're doing, the damage that we're inflicting on Iran, and the setbacks in which they're experiencing, because we just don't see the video. I want you to hear Rebecca Heinrichs talk about what China is doing. How are they getting rearmed? We think China's sending weapons, Cup 5. If the United States is going to be restrained by not delivering these weapons, we would expect the Chinese obviously not to be helping the country that we are in a war with right now, which would be a major escalation on the part of the Chinese to get engaged in this.

And Ambassador Matt Whitaker of NATO cut six. China needs to stay out. Of this fight. We have all sorts of both military and economic ways to deal with this type of situation.

Yeah, and that's the message. You want to come here in September? I know about the covert and I know about the access of evil and all that, but I hope there's a practical side to China. I also saw the Secretary of Treasury say they're slowing down their delivery. of uh rare earth.

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