There is coming a great delusion, and it concerns unidentified flying objects.
How can you find out why not drop them at doubt that extraterrestrials could very well have populated or made structures on the far side of the moon. And welcome to the program. That was just a little tease about some of the topics we'll discuss for the next hour because ufology is an effective new religion. More people believe in aliens than believe in God. And UFOs and the mysteries surrounding them are helping to usher mankind, according to my guest this hour, into one of the darkest periods that this planet has ever seen. What do we mean? And this may be the greatest last day's deception.
That's what we mean. And I'm going to be talking for the hour with the familiar voice of Pastor Billy Crone. Pastor Billy Crone, welcome back to the program. Thank you so much, Jan.
It's always a pleasure to be on. I just finished your book here, and I'll say more about that a little bit later, Billy Crone. But you agree with the statement, and I was surprised to read this and surprised to hear you say this in other interviews, you agree with the statement that 95% of the sightings of supposed UFOs are actually explainable. They could be military aircraft, they could be natural phenomenon, or they could be hoaxes, but about 5% are mysterious. And you agree with those stats?
Yeah, I certainly do, Jan. It's not just because my own personal preference and trying to negate what society wants us to believe about UFOs and aliens. But a lot of it's based on personal research and also personal contact with a lot of the documentaries that we have done in the past, we've interviewed military experts. And so I think most people don't realize just how complex and how far along the flying technology is not only for the United States, but the other governments around the world and much what people want to see as an alien craft. It really is a governmental craft. However, I do believe that a lot of them on top of that are hoaxes. Unfortunately, I think a lot of these sightings also know it's just hopeful thinking you want it to be an alien craft, but that's just a blinking light from an aircraft, etc, etc. However, I think if you're honest in the research, there is a smaller slice that cannot be explained away.
It is not a hoax. And that's what we try to focus on in this resource. What are they? What are they up to? And does that have anything to do with the last days that we're living in? Okay, let me just give the name of the book so folks can know what we're kind of basing our conversation on. Billy Crone has a book, I believe it's relatively new, UFOs, The Great Last Days Deception. And it's, it's a, well, it's almost 300 pages, 276 pages, and we're carrying it. Olive Tree's carrying it.
I'll tell you how to get it later. But Pastor Billy Crone, you suggest, and I agree with you, that some of this more mysterious, well, the category that we can't quite figure out, all right, maybe it's 5%, maybe it's 10%, we don't know, but it's kind of small, could be demonic activity, correct? Oh, absolutely. And again, that's just from taking a look at their behavior, what they're doing, what they're saying, what they're promoting, what they're teaching, if you will. And you look at that, and you compare it to the Scripture, of course, which is our sole source for truth, it is carbon copyjan of demonic behavior. And I want to build on what you've just said about demonic, but I want to talk about history for a minute here. Because you give fascinating history, going back even 100, 150 years, the sightings back then, let's say late 1800s, sightings back then looked like, you know, a balloon, a flying balloon, because that was the technology of the day.
And then as we morph into the, and particularly the 40s, because that's when they really started to pick up, and particularly around 1948, for some strange reason, they really picked up, but then coming into more modern times, the technology keeps morphing as the sightings keep getting increased. Yeah, and that's your first clue that you're dealing with something deceptive here. Because, you know, of course, go back to John chapter eight, Jesus lays the gauntlet down, he's talking about Satan, he's not only a murderer, Jesus said, and he's been one from the beginning, he's a liar, and he's the father of all lies. And when you take a look at these entities, even throughout history, they're lying, they're deceiving.
And that's what Satan, that's what demons do. And you mentioned about that, a lot of people don't realize this, a lot of the sightings purported for UFOs and ETs, they've been around for quite some time. Back in the late 1800s, though, when they appeared to people, they appear to a kitchen on, and we document this, and it's historical accounts, that as a blimp. And then I even went on to say that they told the people that came from planet Mars, and you're going like, okay, but then fast forward, just a few decades later, all of a sudden, you appear as these metallic spaceships.
Okay, let me just look at this logically, let alone biblically, you mean to tell me that you literally flew all the way from Mars on a blimp, number one, number two, and or that your technology drastically improved from a blimp to what you appear to today? Or are you being deceptive? And what you're doing is you're deceiving people in each generation, right with the flying technology that they have for that generation. That's a lie. That's a deceit. That's what Satan does. He's a liar.
And he's a fauna of all lies. Let's go down a little different path here for just a minute, because you have a background in the occult and the New Age. And you state that this has made a good fit for your interest in this topic. And you say that this background you have in occult New Age, you say that it sort of prepared you because you were taught to believe back then, this is years ago now, because you're now a pastor full time, of course, you were then taught that, for instance, the Great Tribulation was earth cleansing itself, there will be some people who disappear, that's what you were told.
And quite frankly, they're kind of pests, and it would be good to get rid of them. Referring to Christians, of course, this is when you were in the occult New Age, you said that you were taught that these were saviors from outer space, taking us to a new level, and all of this is good. And this is when you were back in the occult in the New Age. And then you talk about some of the New Age lies and how they fit in here.
And this is what some of these entities will even tell people that we're all little gods, that there's no sin, we don't need a savior, that we should worship Mother Earth, that we need unity, we need world government, we need a one world religion, a one world economy, we need a single ruler, this will bring peace and harmony to the planet, that Lucifer is a good guy, these entities would debunk Jesus, God, and the Bible. These are all New Age lies. Yeah, they're all New Age lies.
And I can verify that because that's what, as you mentioned, Jen, that's what I came out of. I came out of the New Age in the occult. And I'll never forget the first time I'm eight weeks old in the Lord. Next thing you know, I'm in Bible college, and then later seminary. But I remember there in that first year, Bible college student, I'd never heard of anything about the rapture and things of that nature. And I didn't hear about the Antichrist, the last days, the seven year child, I didn't know anything about that. But obviously, being in Bible college, I'm coming across it, and all of a sudden, my mind starts going crazy.
I'm going, wait a second, wait a second. That's what these so called UFOs and aliens were saying, except they say it's a good thing. They say that Jesus is one of the ETs come to assist us.
He's just a great teacher, like Muhammad or Buddha. Well, that's a New Age lie. They say that we need to submit to a one world government, a one world ruler, a one world economy, combine the religions together, or the planet will be destroyed. Well, that's the Antichrist kingdom.
They go on to actually even say and promote in New Age that Satan and the devil's a good guy. And then again, that's just what the UFO, so called occupants are saying. And so you put all this together biblically, but even logically, Jen, you say, well, wait, wait, wait a second, let me let me get this straight. You're supposed to be this higher evolved race from the other end of the galaxy or some star system, whatever you want to do.
They lie all the time. And then you're here to help humanity in our time of need. And so you come all the way across the galaxy, just to tell me that we need to follow an Antichrist figure. We need to combine the world's government. We need to submit to a global authority. We need to combine our religions. Oh, and by the way, don't forget, Satan's a good guy and debunk only Jesus, God and the Bible.
Really? That's what you came here all the way across to say? It's just crazy. That's exactly what Satan does. That's what demons do.
It's an old age, old line. And think about it, Jim, at least from Satan's perspective, all he does, that's what he does. He lies. He deceives, right? He masquerades as an angel of light, right? Right. In our generation, most people don't want to believe in a literal Satan or literal demons.
Okay. So what's he do? He gets people say, oh, no, no, no, they're not demons. They're aliens from another world. This is an extraterrestrial from another world. And they're here to share with you knowledge that mankind needs to receive. It's an age old lie.
All they did was repackage themselves. You are listening to Understanding the Times Radio. I'm Jan Markell. I have on the line from Las Vegas, Pastor Billy Crone. Find him there at Sunrise Baptist Church in Las Vegas. Also online, Get a Life Media. You can't imagine all the products, all the resources you can tap into at GetALifeMedia.com, GetALifeMedia.com.
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You'll find it in my print and e-newsletter. Pastor Billy Crone, these entities have some enablers. I hate to say it, but Pope Francis is one of them. And he would like to baptize an alien.
That doesn't help. That influences 1.2 billion Catholics who suddenly think, well, these little creatures are probably okay. Pope Francis wants to baptize them. He is helping the globalist New Age agenda. Of course, he helps it in many categories.
Then Catholic Church comes along and makes statements like this. Doesn't help. No, it doesn't help. But what it does is, well, if you will, it actually helps people fall for the deception. Exactly.
Which obviously is a negative thing. But we document this, Jan, and I wish I was making this up. It sounds like a crazy science fiction story, but this is really what the Vatican is up to. And they've been up to for a long time. They actually are in a desperate search for ET themselves. They have their own entity. People can check it out.
It's called VORG, V-O-R-G. It's the Vatican Observatory Research Group. And they got some of the most powerful telescopes in the world reportedly. And they just want to find ET. Okay, now the question is, well, why in the world is the Vatican so enthralled with ET? Well, believe it or not, and this is coming from the Vatican astronomers, the Pope's going along with this stuff too, it's all documented, that they believe that the ETs are going to become our new saviors. Now, of course, that's the demonic lie, that one of the many demonic lies, that they're coming here and sharing with people that you don't need Jesus, there is no such thing as sin, there is no such thing as hell, Satan's a good guy. We're here, the ETs are here to save you.
And people are enthralled with this. The Vatican's going right along with it. But they think that the ETs are going to be our new saviors. And they actually would say that the extraterrestrials, we need to listen to them, whatever they say about life, even truth, including the Bible, because the Vatican's promoting that the ETs may not have experienced a fall. In other words, they're supposed to be free from sin.
Well, that's a whole nother topic. Aliens are based on the lie of evolution. And is there even life in other planets?
I don't believe so. And even the scientific evidence does not show that there is no proof. But even if they were in existence, Romans 8 says all of creation has experienced from the fall, the effects of sin and stuff. But the Vatican, they say, no, no, no. So these guys supposedly have a better knowledge of God and the Godhead. And this is what the Vatican's promoting. Therefore, when these guys show up, whatever they say, we need to submit to their, quote, gospel. Now Paul's very clear about, listen, I don't care in Galatians, right? In chapter one, he says, I don't care if an even, quote, angel from heaven should preach another gospel, other than what we preach to you, let him be eternally condemned.
He says it twice there. And as crazy as that is, as you mentioned, Jan, the pope actually went on record, you could still see it on YouTube with news clips that he would be willing to baptize an alien. It sounds crazy, but this is really what's going on. Look, even Tucker Carlson, I mean, all sorts of people, and Tucker's pretty mainstream, is raising questions about this topic. Here's just a quick couple of minutes of Tucker interviewing, quite frankly, somebody extremely credible who's had a sighting. UFOs have been the stuff of conspiracy theorists for decades, often mocked for talking about it, but maybe they shouldn't be mocked. Commander David Fravor spent 18 years as a naval aviator, a pilot. In 2004, he had an unforgettable encounter with an aircraft he said was defying the laws of physics. Former Commander Fravor joins us tonight.
Thanks a lot for coming on tonight. Tell us what you saw. Well, we were on a, we had launched on a routine training mission.
When we joined up, we were told that the event was going to be canceled and that we have real world tasking and we were sent out to the west. Now take in mind that this has taken place about 100 miles southwest of San Diego, between San Diego and Ensenada, Mexico, on a clear perfect day, blue waters. We get out to the spot where they tell us it's at. We start looking around and both of us, both airplanes, see a disturbance in the water and a white 40-foot long tic-tac shaped object just hovering above the water, going forward, back, left, right.
There's no rotor wash, there's no wings, nothing. So as we drive around in a clockwise flow, we get to about the nine o'clock position and I said, well, I'm going to go down and check it out and the other jet is going to stay high. So as we go down, when we get to the 12 o'clock position, it starts to mirror us. So it's in a clockwise flow and it's on the opposite side of the circle from us and we continue this. It's in a climb, we're in a descent, we're getting a great look at it.
This whole thing takes about probably up to five minutes from the time we show up. I get over to the eight o'clock position, it's at about the two o'clock position and I decide I'm going to go and see what it is and it's about 2,000 feet below me and I cut across the circle and as I get within about a half mile of it, it rapidly accelerates to the south in about two seconds and disappears. What would you estimate the speed? Oh, well above supersonic. It like a bullet out of a gun it took off. So from what you know about aerodynamics, mechanics, physics, should this be possible what you saw? Not with the technology that we have today, not at all. Even now, even 13 years later, is there anything that you know of capable of this kind of behavior?
No, there's nothing I know of. I mean this, when you look, when we saw the video with the IR, it has no exhaust, you know, no discernible things of anything form of propulsion and this thing came from a dead hover over the water just kind of moving around to a climb up to about 12,000 feet to rapidly accelerating away in a climb and in less than two seconds it was gone and you figure you're talking 50 miles of visibility and you can easily see an object that size easily out to 10 miles and it just disappeared in seconds. Pastor Bailey Crone, do you think this could be the setting here could be part of the five percent that is just mysterious? Well it certainly could be and that's the whole chapter that we have on how do you know because we make the statement that we believe this is that small percentage of demonic deception for the last days and we begin to go through the proof. We have a whole chapter on how do UFOs, aliens, quote travel and the guys mentioned that this thing is so is we don't have the technology to do this and it's just it literally goes so fast it's like a bullet out of a gun and but stop and think about that if you're actually dealing with a demonic entity the demons of course are fallen angels and angels when you look in the bible how do they travel angels have the ability to materialize and dematerialize they just kind of pop in pop out well when you take a look at how UFOs and aliens travel like the guys mentioned that's exactly what you have with these entities they clock them at speeds he wasn't sure how fast that went but on record that we came across some of them they clocked them at speeds up to 15 000 miles an hour making a right turn which logically would destroy anything physical if it really was physical in nature these entities they don't make a sonic boom like a normal physical object does also radar has never recorded the actual entering of a UFO into our atmosphere they just pop onto the scene i mean you never hear reports me saying hey hey we just want to give you guys a update they're aliens hopefully them are coming around the horn of jupiter they'll be here in three days and 14 hours and blah blah blah no here they are the back side of the moon they're going to be here you know tomorrow afternoon so be prepared no they all of a sudden just pop on the seam in the radar and they pop right back out okay now this is why after decades of research secular and i can't stress this enough jen secular ufologists these are the guys who've been studying this for decades they say and i quote there seems to be no evidence yet that any of these craft or beings originate from outer space and quote one theory that can no longer be taken very seriously is that ufos are interstellar spaceships in other words secular researchers ufologists are saying based on how these things travel they're not coming from outer space they're coming from inner space they're coming from another dimension well wonder of wonders that's what the bible calls the spirit realm and wonder wonders that's how angels travel and demons are of the fallen category actually that was next in my notes i was going to ask you about i was going to talk to you about this the secularists are saying and some of these are ufologists and they're saying that what we're dealing with is more akin to magic or the occult than to physics when i get back pastor billy crone i want to discuss with you how this might play in let's just say after the rapture because the world is going to be confused and and all who are missing are going to be believers and the antichrist must have some kind of an explanation for what happened to us so we're going to talk about that and a lot more we've got another segment with pastor billy crone again the book is ufos the great last day's deception it's in my store olive tree views dot org and give us a call you can 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investigate sightings of so-called anomalous aerial vehicles in the skies some have sensationalized today's topic but we feel we need to take a look at it from a biblical perspective the supernatural and paranormal are on overdrive we have featured pastor billy crone from sunrise bible church in las vegas in our conference and radio outreach let's return to jan and pastor crone ufo sightings around the world have reached an all-time high according to data from the national ufo reporting center ufo sightings experienced a boom in the 1980s reported sightings went from less than 5 000 in 1980 to about 10 000 in 1990 but between 1990 and 2000 sightings rose by nearly 30 000 in those 10 years more than 45 000 sightings were recorded a record and it appears the spike in ufo sightings was not anomaly but a trend in an eight-year period from 2002 to 2009 more than 36 000 ufos were reported since then more than 11 000 more ufos were reported with more than 47 000 being catalogued since 2010 statistician and phd candidate sam monford brought this information to light with the collection of data from the reporting center monford found that individuals are far more likely to spot a ufo in the u.s than anywhere else in the world he reports that on average there are 2500 sightings reported per 10 million people that's 300 times higher than the global median northwestern and northeastern states have filed the most report sighting per capita perhaps with seven new known planets in the universe we could experience even more close encounters in the future for fox news i'm rob dimitrius and welcome back you're not listening to twilight zone this is understanding the times radio but i am captivated by a new book we're carrying ufos the great last day's deception by billy crone you've heard him on this program before billy crone again let me just jump here to some of my notes in front of me some say that when this kind of a phenomenon happens a sighting even a landing there's a smell of sulfur mindful of revelation 19 the lake of burning sulfur what do you make of that i mean first of all people are actually having encounters with these crafts yeah there is again i think that's your small smaller slice but you got to deal with it something something odd is going on and again when they show up first of all they they want to communicate with people obviously they say we're here but what's very strange jan is again how do you know you're dealing with a demonic deception is because the manner in which they communicate when they show up right the only way apparently to get the news that we need to have from these guys they tell us they got the great truth that'll save the planet is you have to get into an altered state of consciousness right well deuteronomy 18 forbids that's called being a medium right god's very clear about that he calls it the testable why because it's demonic practice and they're there to deceive you but think about that logically wait a second so the only way that i can get this information from you when you show up is i have to get myself into an occult practice an altered state of consciousness and then you take over my vocal cords which new age we used to call that channeling and that's how i can communicate with you i mean come on you're supposed to be this highly advanced civilization this technologically advanced race of entities and and can't you beat me down wonky talky sure can how about send me an app there's an app for everything right pop it on my phone or give me the one of those nifty kirk to enterprise devices why is it the only way i can communicate with you is a demonic practice well what's interesting i do find this interesting is paul did talk about to timothy verse 74 1 he said the spirit clearly says in the latter times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons and that's what these things are doing they're coming up on the scene but an only way to be taught by them to communicate with them it's an occult practice but it goes even further they don't just want to take over your vocal cords right and communicate through you they literally want to possess you yes they do okay and full-blown possession now of course what satan do he repackages himself those aren't demons they're just aliens you know you don't want to be demon possessed so i won't call it that you'll freak out but so they use terms like walk in or you can be a star child a star seed that you can be dissimilar to life and they literally want to possess your whole body and then when you take a look at the encounters that people have when they do show up on the scene people begin to act as if they're possessed and then you mentioned jen of all things for them to quote smell like when they show up on the scene oftentimes it's the smell of sulfur and not just with aliens and ufos we also document in the occult having been there done that which i wouldn't buy the t-shirt but in the occult when actual demons appear on the scene sometimes there's also the smell of sulfur so that's just kind of an interesting coinkidink so aliens show up on the scene you smell like sulfur demons show up on the scene you smell like sulfur not cheeseburgers not stale milk uh not copper sulfur all things to smell like is sulfur which is what the bible describes like a burning sulfur like a burning sulfur that's in revelation 19 but we need to quickly insert here billy crone that there's kind of one word that can chase all of this away and i mean in a nanosecond talk to me about that yeah and i tell you what that's wild because i wish i would have known this you know obviously before i got saved would have saved me some trouble but it did happen the moment i did call upon jesus he rescued me from that but we even interviewed people we share their encounters we also share other researchers encounters but jan that's absolutely right give me a break you know what's the old axiom if it walks like a duck talks like a duck quacks like a duck you probably got a what a duck well if you lie like a demon you teach like a demon you travel like a demon you smell like a demon you deceive like a demon you're probably a demon and then add this one oh and by the way you're rebuked just like a demon there is one way on record even secular ufologists admit this 100 of the time you want to get rid of these critters if they do show up near you it's when you command them in the name of jesus christ to leave and they do oh and jan i gotta share this too in the research and this is from secular researchers they they say there's a very strange trend here right that they say that muslims buddhists agnostics they claim abduction experiences but as more cases were examined there was a puzzling trend that emerged okay there's one group that these things tend to stay away from and that's christian okay and he's talking about and they make the delineation listen to this what we're talking about is known as born again bible believing christians it's as if the et's tend to avoid this group of people and quote this reality has been largely ignored by many ufo researchers then they go on to say the so-called christians reporting these encounters tend to be those who intellectually espoused the existence of god but didn't apply i.e they weren't true christians there seemed to be an obvious absence of devout bible believing walk-the-walk christians where were they in this equation so number one secular research is saying you know everybody's talking about these different cultures of these aliens and entities and even an encounter with them but bible born again believing christians they don't seem to get messed with and those that do encounter them again when they speak forth the name of jesus christ these things don't just listen they don't just take heed they hightail it out there in a nanosecond they're gone they're gone yeah i want to go back to this rapture issue that i teased with just a moment ago and by the way you're listening to understanding the times radio i'm jan markell i have on the line pastor billy crone learn more at get a life media dot com get a life media dot com we're carrying a new book of his ufos the great last day's deception find it at olive tree views dot org my store olive tree views dot org give us a call you can also get it in my print and e newsletter let's go back to i teased with this because i think it's so important there's coming a day probably soon when a lot of people are going to go missing and isn't it convenient that this phenomenon has been all the rage going back for hundreds and hundreds of years but in the last 60 70 years gone off the chart and really in the last 25 30 years is when it's really kind of peaked and this is going to help those who are trying to explain what happened after a certain phenomenon the bible refers to as the rapture yeah and that's why we entitled the book ufos the great last day's deception because it's leading somewhere and you think about the enemy how slowly methodically he has set this up just to explain away i believe the rapture of the church right again ufos aliens it's all based on a lie called evolution they're not just a race of entities they're supposed to be a higher evolved race of well if evolution is not true then right there you just lied to me again another thing that demons do but when did that life start about 150 years ago with charles darwin so the enemy first had to get people to buy into the live evolution get that in the minds of people around the world but that wasn't the end game the end game is to now go step two now that i got you away from god and christianity and creation from a biblical perspective now i'm going to drop the bomb on you i'm going to tell you that there's other life forms out there and then that's what's been through hollywood the media and again the old axiom you repeat a lie loud enough long enough off enough people believe it same thing with here we're inundated everybody's enthralled with aliens i mean to even say that aliens don't exist in the traditional sense people look at you like you're the weird one but everybody believes in aliens now now that's just step two step three is boy put yourself in the anti-christ shoes put yourself in the last days put yourself in satan shoes if you will here you have an event that is coming the bible talks about for the last two thousand years the rapture of the church you can't spin this baby away you can't say oh no that didn't happen it was an event that happened and it specifically happened around the world and specifically and only christians disappeared not random people specifically christians how in the world are you going to spin that baby away well jan again back to that first year in bible college i'd never heard of the rapture from a biblical perspective in my life when i came across that the first time again my head is exploding i'm going whoa whoa whoa whoa wait a second it drew me back to the new age days and the so-called channeled messages from these supposed space brothers orbiting the planet or some star systems the aliens and ufos and of all things for them to come here you're not here just to deny god christianity the bible you're not here just to promote the anti-christ kingdom and say the devil's a good guy of all things for you to do is you are laying the foundation to explain away the rapture of the church and we share in this research actual stuff i actually had to pull up some old stuff that i was involved in and to prove that i'm not making this up these are what they're doing i pulled up a bunch of new age resources from these authors that are supposed to be getting these messages from these aliens and let me just share a couple of quotes with you jan you tell me if this is not going to become the perfect excuse to explain away that next prophetic event but one of the big ones out there her name is barbara marsiniak and she's a really famous new age lady unfortunately i still pray for her to this day she wrote a book out there it's called bringers of the dawn and she believed that she's in contact with the extraterrestrials from the star system Pleiades and here's what she said that they have told her to tell mankind that we desperately need to know right and and she said this that what they've told her is quote there will be great shiftings within humanity on this planet it will seem that great chaos and turmoil are forming that nations are rising against each other in war and that earthquakes are happening more frequently well listen they must have some supernatural knowledge no that's called read the bible matthew 24 that's nothing new but they make it sound like they got this secret knowledge but then she goes on and says this they've told me to tell you that earth is shaking itself free and a certain realignment or adjustment period is to be expected listen the people who leave the planet during the time of earth changes do not fit here any longer they are stopping the harmony of the earth when the time comes that perhaps 20 million people leave the planet at one time and again notice how what they do is they picture being left behind as a badge of honor and that it was those sad people those people who weren't as spiritually evolved as the rest of us who are still on the planet those nasty christians they were stopping the harmony of the earth but now they've been beamed up right that's why they disappeared because now we're going to build this age of utopia oh and by the way there is going to be some catastrophes on the planet and they're going to escalate we'll go ahead and warn you that too but it's not a bad thing it's definitely not god's wrath it's just mother earth cleansing herself right and if you could just hang on you'll make it on the back end into the age of utopia total explaining away the rapture of the church that's very convenient couple of comments you make in the book that i want to dwell on for just a real brief amount of time here but you say the notion of alien life does not square well with scripture and of course that should be obvious to most listeners because you and i feel that god's plan of redemption is obviously for humans in other words descendants of adam and really not space creatures that are inherently demonic i found that to be a very interesting concept that you and accurate and you say extraterrestrial life is an evolutionary concept and i think you should explain that because again this is a huge deception evolution is one of the big deceivers of today and extraterrestrial life is an evolutionary concept yeah jan i appreciate that because that's very important because i've noticed that some christians have even kind of stumbled a bit on this issue because of the the repeated lie throughout the media and the movies and things of that nature and they say well there's just gotta be life on other planets i mean come on i mean haven't you seen star wars and all the star trek and all that stuff hey listen i don't care if hollywood makes a movie it doesn't make it true folks okay but the whole premise again as i mentioned earlier of aliens is built on a lie and the lie is evolution evolution is not true folks there is no evidence of evolution and by way if people want to get a resource we have a 42 hour study on video we also have five companion books on it called the witness of creation dealing with the bankruptcy of evolution stick to the biblical account not just biblically but also scientifically as well well again another quote that jews have in the book the real world is a biblical world a universe designed by god with the earth as the spiritual focal point not an evolutionary universe yeah yeah and again and let me continue to build on that comment evolution is bankrupt evolution folks if it can't happen here and it can't and it doesn't it's not going to happen anywhere right but also from a biblical perspective the earth the bible is very clear the earth is in fact unique and that god designed the earth alone for life right psalm 115 says the highest heavens belong to the lord but the earth he has given to man right and again i don't care how many times hollywood wants to pump out oh no there's got to be life else out there you know the vulcans and the klingons and all these other aliens listen that's not what the scripture says also number two aliens biblically cannot be redeemed god's plan of redemption is for human beings not for aliens it's for those who are descendant of adam right this goes back to the fall all of us mankind are descendants from adam we inherited a sin nature and god set the pattern for us in the garden of eden right after adam and eve sin god made coats of skin to cover them which of course we know is symbolic of our salvation of the lamb to come jesus christ who would be the sacrifice the covering for our sin okay aliens even if you want to see the exit they're not blood relatives of jesus they're not from adam so they can't be redeemed even if you want to flirt with that route jesus blood would not pay for their sin okay but by the way this jesus also died once for all here on planet earth he didn't go visit another world he's not going to go visit another world and again that's all completely unbiblical jesus is both god and man he is not an alien he died for mankind he is a descendant in his humanity from obviously adam just like the rest of us he died for mankind not the et's extraterrestrial life the whole premise is an evolutionary construct it does not agree with the bible that the bible says i'm not making this up the bible says that the earth and mankind is unique and all the worlds in the universe the planets and galaxies and stuff okay it's only the earth that god himself has visited as a human being jesus christ died on the cross it was only on planet earth he only rose again from the grave only on planet earth and again only for mankind and by the way not just a biblical account this is why to this day no one and they won't unless they want to lie about it but no one has discovered life on other planets no one has detected any radio signals from so-called intelligent aliens what you find is a complete silence well that agrees with the biblical creationist account okay if evolution was true and if there was life on other planets and if we've been here for millions of billions of years then you would expect a ton of contact with these entities we would find radio signals all over the place and the scientists would just be having boxes loaded up with all kind of life teaming in the universe that is not what you find what you find agrees with the biblical account man is unique earth is unique and jesus christ only died for mankind folks this is a fascinating almost 300 page book i can't always read every book that i feature on this program i did this one because once i got into it i was engrossed ufo's the great last day's deception you can find it in my store olive tree views.org you can give us a call you can find it in my print and e-newsletter it's fascinating topics it's about 13 14 chapters by pastor billy crone i want to change topics when we get back billy crone just a little bit because there's still a couple of things first of all you have a chapter in the book deceivers and i also have a chapter in that book and i want to talk to you about that i also want to address the issue of the iranian agreement that just probably kind of went up in smoke thanks to donald trump and what he did back on may 8th or 9th and we'll discuss those things when i get back folks don't go away don't touch your dial we have an active website with an online store two years of radio programs posted under radio options to donate daily updated headlines and other articles and much more visit us at olive tree views.org that's olive tree views.org more with jan 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flawed from the beginning i think the president laid that case out in his statement today he gave the europeans and others a chance to fix it it was not doable because the flaws go right to the foundations of the deal so he did what he clearly advertised he was going to do as far back as the 2016 campaign pulled the united states out of the deal why because it's in our security interest to get out of this flawed deal if you are a visual person we now slip images and video into our youtube radio presentations find this posted under the jan markell youtube channel thank you for staying in touch with us and for your generous support as well you can always call us central time at seven six three five five nine four four four four that's seven six three five five nine forty four forty four now here are jan markell and pastor billy chrome all right the mullahs of iran they have been put on notice america will no longer be bowing down to their empty threats and their aggressive tactics the days of blindly trusting and trying to bribe this rogue regime are now over because hours ago president trump made the courageous decision to pull the united states out of this very flawed iranian nuclear agreement let's take a look the iranian regime is the leading state sponsor of terror the deal allowed oran to continue enriching uranium and over time reach the brink of a nuclear breakout this disastrous deal gave this regime and it's a regime of great terror many billions of dollars some of it in actual cash today we have definitive proof that this iranian promise was a lie therefore i am announcing today that the united states will withdraw from the iran nuclear deal okay and welcome back we're going to shift gears here just for a few minutes in my closing segment let me first say this program is always posted to my website saturday morning since you are running around you don't always have time to be by our radio olivetreeviews.org and go to radio you can sign up for the app at oneplace.com and have the program automatically downloaded for you saturday morning it remains online probably forever so you can tap into it many days later if you can't catch it on the radio but this weekend is the first time i could address the demise of the iranian nuclear deal of 2015 ended by president donald trump on may 8th because the previous administration seemed obsessed with lighting the match that could start a couple of wars gog magog out of ezekiel 38 39 and even start the battle of armageddon and i believe that conflict will involve the exchange of nuclear weapons globally certainly armageddon will the obama administration did everything in its ability to befriend the iranian mullahs to outfit them with cash and enable them to light the fuse that would unleash atomic chaos around the world and donald j trump put the brakes on spending the hour with pastor billy crone sunrise baptist church las vegas he's also the founder of get a life media pastor billy crone your thoughts when you heard president donald j trump back out of the iranian agreement notice i didn't say treaty the agreement that happened in 2015 well frankly janet's been refreshing to see our government and certainly our president this president to make such decisions common sense decisions instead of what we had with the previous eight years and it's refreshing common sense it's also refreshing to see a support of israel of course biblically certainly as a christian and somebody that doesn't just say the right thing but you know what even against people trying to talk them out of it no that's what we're going to do because it's the right thing to do so that's been frankly refreshing to be honest with you but also you know iran is just one of those countries and of course the whole thing of israel the threat of nuclear warfare and nuclear bombs and all that stuff of course that goes back to the bible prophecy related issues matthew 24 jesus said these things are going to happen the last days what wars and rumors of wars boy i tell you what this it's all there is is rumors of wars with north korea and syria and iran and all the stuff that's going on that certainly fits and then the threat of nuclear and more people getting nuclear weapons is a major concern well i just checked a few days ago there's we're almost up to now 16 000 nuclear bombs on the planet and they said it's right now according to the nuclear threat initiative they said that's enough nuclear bombs to destroy the planet hundreds of times over this was perhaps the worst agreement in the history of mankind certainly in modern american politics i mean it was as though barack obama was more committed to iran destroying israel than almost anything out in his diabolical agenda nor did it bother him that at the close of every religious service in iran participants chant death to america death to israel i mean the mullahs and their constituents were still rewarded in spite of this abysmal behavior rewarded with cash 150 billion dollars in cash and other favors and and that the liberal mind seems billy to be incapable of comprehending evil that's my perception in that they do not believe in god or a devil so such concepts as good and evil are absence they live in a kumbaya world let's all get along if we treat each other well there will be peace and harmony so if we do nice things to the mullahs who are chanting death to america at the end of every religious service in iran they're going to turn around and be our friend yeah and it's sad because and again the media doesn't seem to want to report over here it's not just there really are chanting death to america so why would you support that that's crazy number one just from a national sovereignty perspective right but also they want the total annihilation of israel how many times have they stated that they broadcast it in their news we just don't get it over here so why in the world with any government certainly the previous administration supported so much well i think that's another thing that people don't want to deal with is with the previous administration some people actually heard that they well you said he was a christian so i guess he's a christian i'm sorry i got a problem with that you deal with the facts and i'll just say this if he wasn't a muslim he was trying awfully hard to be one he was the most anti-god anti-christian president that we've ever had in the history of the united states and dare i say he was anti-israel this is the same guy who would mock christianity he wouldn't talk about christians being slaughtered around the planet he wouldn't support israel but he would sit there and celebrate ramadan in the white house he would say that they've made such great strides for humanity and then he would make deals like this with iran i'm sorry i got a problem with that i don't think that's what a christian would do people don't want to deal with that and again that's why i think it's so refreshing that our current president cuts through all that and no this is a bad deal and it ain't just a bad deal i'm forever saying it's bad i'm going to do something about it we're getting out of this well as you and i were saying on the phone talking ahead of time pastor billy crone and he's been my guest for the hour there is an interesting alignment going on in the middle east alignment of nations most of them evil however some strange things too for instance saudi arabia now ally of israel so that's that's a result of iran as well i want to quickly shift here because we're running out of time and i want to reference your chapter you and i each have a chapter in the new terry james book deceivers exposing evil seducers and their last day's deception also folks available at my website in our store olive tree views dot org i'm so running out of time billy but your chapter demon conjuring con men and talk to me give me at least a couple of minutes of description on demon conjuring con men because i've read the chapter and you're troubled by how the media is being used for deception the deception in the media talk to me a little bit about it yeah when we start the chapter i'm basically dealing with the unfortunate trend that a lot of people don't even believe in literal satan so we make the biblical case you really seriously you got to be joking so we set that case but then we go into what's what's the enemy up to well i'm convinced he's using the power of mass media in the last days to deceive people and and not only that but i bring out a couple different ways that he's doing that in the media first of all he's getting us to act like him with devilish behavior right a lot of people are finally catching up to what even secular guys have been saying for a long time media has effect on people's behavior now we should know that because of the commercials right they spend what the last super bowl five five and a half million dollars on a super bowl commercial for 30 seconds why because they got a lot of money to burn no because they know media influences is your beliefs your behavior and your buying habits well that's what the enemy is doing you look at the media most of it is filled with with sex and violence and horrible anti-god anti-christian behavior and you wonder why it's getting so bad right it's a direct proportion people on average the average household i think they watch up to around seven hours of tv combined right they're being inundated with all this devilish behavior and you wonder why they're acting like it well i think that's part of that another thing that he's doing with it he's going even beyond that he wants us to not only look like him and behave like him with devilish behavior but he wants us to get into the dark occult practices that he promotes and i'm talking things like witchcraft which by the way all they've done is relabeled witchcraft today it's called wicca that's the new term for it but it's old-fashioned witchcraft but even satanism and things that nature you look at the shows that are being put on tv that people called entertainment no it's seducing you to go down into the occult the old of course the classic psychic hotline and crossing over but what's one of the biggest shows today the long island medium lady right but another one billy crowe the lucifer series on one of the fox channels i'm not sure which one not fox news portraying lucifer as a charming handsome good guy an all-around guy kind of a hero he steps in and he does all sorts of good things you talk about subtle programming there and i remember when that first came out jan i thought okay this thing's gonna bomb because who in the right mind is gonna literally want to watch a show about saying basically lucifer is a good guy that's what the show is about he's a good guy here to help us solve crimes really but yet it's a extremely popular show and it's still going on but this is what satan wants to do he wants us to act like him he wants us to get involved in the dark occult away from god and he wants us to think he's a good guy again the book is deceivers and this is another book other than the one we opened the program with deceivers exposing evil seducers and their last day's deception find it in my store contributors i can't name them all i contribute one chapter dr dave reagan dr gary fraser nathan jones billy crone gary stearman eric barger terry james's general editor many other contributors philip goodman j michael heil and others it's a fantastic book i think hardbound you can find it in my store finding my various news i gotta go out of the program because i'm out of time pastor billy crone thank you for all you do to wake people up and to be a watchman on the wall and as it concerns the rampant belief i'm going back now to extraterrestrial life because this has become the secular replacement for god that was kind of the point of our two segments on that it represents the supernatural but not the godly supernatural a supernatural from the dark world a world you want to avoid at all costs and the world is full of deceivers and today's topics are a part of that deceivers agenda remember ephesians 6 12 we our struggle is not against flesh and blood but against the rulers against the powers against the world of forces of this darkness against the spiritual forces of wickedness in heavenly places there is protection and safety by calling on the name of jesus that is the name that drives every dark force away instantly call on him today won't you i want to thank you for listening and we'll talk to you next week thank you for joining us for today's understanding the times radio with jan markell across america and across the world wide web we continue to report current events from a biblical perspective every weekend this broadcast comes to you at no cost but it cost us thousands of dollars as we produce and distribute this weekly media outreach would you consider standing with us with an 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