Lancing Out In SF? (Hour 2)

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Let's hear this one more time. Trevor Lawrence gives his Waffle House order. He went to Waffle House after his first playoff win with a charger of 27 to nothing.

He threw four interceptions and then Trevor Lawrence led that comeback. That night I got the Texas bacon cheesesteak with hash browns with cheese and a pecan waffle. So it just, it depends. Yeah.

So sometimes I'll get the all-star, you know, depends how I'm feeling. Now when you win a big game or if you win the Super Bowl, and I'm not saying the Jaguars are going to do that, but whenever Trevor Lawrence, if he does win a Super Bowl in this league, it's not going to be, I'm going to Disneyland. It's I'm going to the Waffle House.

They got to make sure that they have that endorsement signed, sealed and delivered for whenever he wins. That's the first thing that he says. I'm going to the Waffle House. That's awesome. I absolutely love, as we said in the last hour, you think star quarterback, okay, you go to a club, you're young, you party it up with all your friends, or you go to some fancy schmancy restaurant. No, you're going to be with the real people in Duval. You'll go get some Waffle House, go eat some greasy food. And that's great.

You know what that would be the equivalent of, Hickey, for us? Go into like a diner on Long Island. There's always, there's so many great diners on Long Island that are just open 24 hours.

I had one right by my house growing up as a kid. And sometimes, not that I'm comparing myself to Trevor Lawrence, obviously, because it's not a similar moment, but there would be many times after I do that weekend overnight, 2 to 6 a.m. Eastern, go take the hour drive home back to my folks house when I used to the weekend overnights, 7 a.m., walk right into that premier diner after no sleep. Oh, delicious. Absolutely delicious. Did you get a standing ovation like Trevor Lawrence did when he walked in after a great show?

Actually got booed. Let's go to Patrick Mahomes. He says the Chiefs are ready for the playoffs. I think you build up for this all season long. And the regular season, you take it week by week, but you want to be here in the playoffs. And you know you're going to play, you know you're going to be here all season long. But you want to be here in the playoffs. And you know you're going to play the best football teams in the league. And that's what you want to do as a competitor. And so I'm excited to get to go up against a great football team at Arrowhead.

That's always a good time. What's your biggest concern with Kansas City entering the playoffs? Their defense.

In a weird way, and I did not subscribe to this theory before the season or during the season. But we've seen the last few years, Kansas City get in these games. How many times have we seen them fall behind?

And they dig themselves such a deep hole and they're able to climb themselves out of it. This is the first time all year. And I'm not trying to diminish the importance of what Tyreek Hill did all those years during the regular season. But I thought they were going to have a tremendous regular season. I thought it was between them and the Chargers to win the AFC West. But a big part of Tyreek is that one play, home run shot, get in the deep ball and you're able to make up the deficit so quickly.

Because how you could go quickly get a score, then go get a stop, then another score. Now Travis Kelce played a big role in that as well. He's still there. And clearly Mahomes. I just wonder, and I'm just curious to see, and this is what I would love to see, them go down 10-0 against Jacksonville right out of the gate. And I just want to see for the first time this year if they actually miss Tyreek Hill. Because there's not been a moment this year really where you said, oh they miss Tyreek Hill. And I just wonder with their season really starting now in the playoffs, number one seed once again, if they go down big like they have up against the Texans and the Bills and the Niners. Like how many times have we seen this in the playoffs if they're able to climb themselves out of that hole without Tyreek Hill? It's just something to think about.

Alrighty, let's keep it moving. Patrick Mahomes says the Chiefs aren't taking the Jaguars lately. They're a talented team. I knew that the first time we played them. You could see the talent that they had.

They were flying around through the football. They made a few mistakes here and there and that's why we kind of got the win the first time. We understand how good this football team is and how much of a challenge it's going to be for us to go out there and try to find a way to get a win.

And so we're trying to prepare ourselves the best way possible that we can find a way to win it there on Saturday. There's a lot of familiarity with all the coaching matchups this weekend. Like Doug Peterson, his mentor is Andy Reid. Dayball, Sirianni, they go up against each other.

Now with Dayball it's coached there twice a year. McDermott and Taylor, a few weeks ago they were preparing for one another and they know that they've been the best two teams in the AFC for most of the season, at least the way that I viewed it, even though Kansas City is the one seed. And then McCarthy Shanahan, we saw this matchup last year in the postseason. So a lot of familiarity with a lot of these coaching staffs and even though some of those matchups go back to last year or earlier in the year, you just wonder what you're able to do a little bit differently this time around. Let's go to Nick Sirianni.

We'll play you this once again. Here is Sirianni and his meal of choice while watching the Giants-Vikings game. I was kind of craving Pizza Hut stuffed crust pizza. I haven't had that in a while. That's not something I get to get at home. So we had that. It was in the offensive staff room.

Yeah, I won't get into that. The competitive advantage. The competitive advantage.

It's kind of weird, Hickey, because we put all these coaches on such pedestals, how they're kind of like one of us. For example, the one time this company this year bought us pizza for Ion Football, it was not like from some great pizza spots in New York City. I forget where the pizza was from, but it wasn't the greatest pizza in the world. It was what you would expect when the company, any company, would kind of buy a bunch of pizzas for the entire office. You're looking at a lower quality of pizza. Not that these coaches are begging for change, but if the coach wants the stuffed crust pizza, is it just like all the other college students sitting around, oh, I want some stuffed crust pizza, or we're going in for a big fraternity house, let's just go get something cheap.

Does that play a role in that at all when you're ordering for a group of people that big? I guess who's paying for it? I'm assuming Sirianni, right? I guess. I'm sure the team will reimburse him if he really wants, though. Is Jeffrey Lurie going to be saying hi, fellas? What are you ordering today? Let's keep it low.

You've got 20 guys here. If I was Jeffrey Lurie, here's what I'll say. Keep your receipts. You win, I'll pay for your pizza. You lose, it's on you. Wow.

And you're walking home, too, after the game. Now, I could only go off previous experience. If I'm going Domino's, if I'm going Pizza Hut, you've got to maybe have something in the system.

That's all I'm going to say once again on that topic. In a sober state of mind, I've never said, now, if they start giving me endorsement, that's a different thing, but in a sober state of mind, I've never said, I want some Pizza Hut. I've only wanted Pizza Hut if, let's say, you had too many drinks late night or if maybe you were doing a little puff puff pass.

That's it. Hopefully, Daryl Philbin from the office is listening because sponsorship opportunities are available on the Zach Elf Show for Pizza Hut. Yeah, I love me some Pizza Hut. Love me some Pizza Hut. At least their commercial's not as bad as other fast food restaurants that would not be named for free advertising. Which one?

The only one that's been playing 24-7. BK? Have it your way. The worst. That doesn't really bother me. That bothers you? I've seen a lot of people get bothered by it.

I feel like it's in my brain, in my head 24-7. How are they... Well, that's good marketing then. How are they making this much money where basically it's on TV 24-7?

Any commercial and any sporting event, the first one is always boom, that one. Either they are going to go bankrupt in like three months. No.

Or they are doing insanely good. Yeah. Better than I ever would have anticipated because they are everywhere. The Applebee's commercials from, remember like two years ago? I think it was at the AFC Championship game where you could barely even hear the CBS crew and they had the Applebee's song. That was a great one.

Applebee's on a late night. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was tough. That was annoying. That commercial was also very catchy as well. And then, I think the shortest lived, catchiest commercial maybe ever was the, regarding like fast food, was the Russell Wilson Danger Witch. It's a real shame that it's off the menu. That fast too.

That's... RIP. Alrighty, let's keep it moving. Here is Nick Sirianni on if the Giants are a different team compared to when they played them the first time in week 14. There are some different things that they are doing, obviously. They are good coaches and they got good players. When you have good coaches, they are going to adapt to what they are doing well. They had a bye week over the time that we played them. They've had some time off. They've had time to self-diagnose. So, sure. Because Wink and Dable and Kafka and Bobby Johnson and Mike Rowe, because all those guys I respect a lot and they are good coaches, they are going to figure out what they are doing well and they are going to try to repeat that. So, sure. You see some differences in that aspect. Out of all the coaches in the NFL, if you had to party with one coach, is Sirianni the guy you want to party with the most?

Top of my head, no. I would say Dan Campbell for sure. Oh, that's a good one. On top of him. Now, because Sirianni, he just seems like a regular dude. He comes off as a regular dude.

He does. I think he'd be a fun guy. Braving Pizza Hut. Yeah, to go to a bar with, drink a few beers and then go get some disgusting food with. I think Andy Reid would be fun.

Too serious. He'd be keeping all the receipts from the meals. Andy Reid would definitely eat well for sure. We'd have some good burgers.

I'm in on that. I'm going through all the coaches. I think Dan Campbell, absolutely. Andy Reid, you'd definitely get a good meal. Mike McDaniel I think would be a low-key good time. He's always that funny guy in the group, I think. He's too bizarre for me. AFC North. Tomlin definitely has great stories.

AFC South, I feel like Doug would be good to go. Oh, Vrabel. You tell me Vrabel. Vrabel would crush 20 beers. Vrabel is a party animal.

In a two-hour period. Let's see, anyone else that... You know who actually wouldn't be... I know he's fire, but Cliff Kingsbury. I bet you there's some good looking women around him. There's some good looking women around him. That's for sure.

Yeah, Thailand too. And I bet you, especially with that estate that he has and the way that he looks, there's definitely some good looking women around him. Alright, that's where I probably draw the line in the sand. Cliff?

Okay. You know who it probably used to be? The best? You say Pete Carroll? No, I didn't think Pete.

You said you used to, so I'm trying to think older. No, it's just he's no longer head coach in this league. Bruce Arians.

Bruce tossed him back. He's got to text a lot in whiskey emojis. Every time you text Bruce Arians, he always gives you back a whiskey emoji with whatever is being said.

Even right. So he came on with us in the NFC title game. Right after the NFC title game, he came on with us. And then after they won the Super Bowl, I reached back out. I was like, hey coach, can you join us again?

He goes, brother, I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be drunk for the next 24 hours. That is a guy that definitely knows how to party. All right, let's go to Jon Fossil, the special teams coach for the Dallas Cowboys. And if Brett Maher will be the Cowboys kicker on Sunday.

Hell yeah. If you ask me, absolutely. And then he was asked if yips are a real thing for a kicker. I believe in the yips and I believe in the hot hand. You know, and he had a hot hand. You know, let's face it. We missed four kicks all season at PAT, a 49-yarder and two 57-yarders.

And then, you know, the yips happened. So I'd expect, you know, a hot hand coming up. And then Levi Stadium, in my experience, there is not an easy place to kick. You know, there's grass.

There's probably some conditions and there's definitely wind factors. So let's go. What else do we want? It's kind of funny that leading into Cowboys and Niners, the biggest story right now between these two great teams of like great talent. You look at the 49ers. You got Deebo Samuel, you got Christian McCaffrey, the emergence of Brock Purdy. You got Nick Bosa. Like, you look at all the talent the Niners have. And for the Cowboys, you got Dak, you got C.D. Lamb, you got Tony Pollard, Ezekiel Elliott. The biggest topic of conversation right now is a frickin' kicker.

Now, I get it. He missed four extra points. But when you have those two teams with the history of those two teams, I would have never thought in a million years, Hickey, before a divisional round game that the biggest story line so far this week would be about a kicker. That press conference was 18 minutes. No disrespect to special teams coordinator John Faso, but 18 minutes, again, mostly about Brad Mott.

What else are you asking? This is a huge game and here we are spending 20 minutes talking about a kicker. I know he gives some long-winded responses, but what else are you asking about the kicker? He did detail some drama in the game on Monday that the Cowboys were almost out of kicking balls because he missed two. And missed two so bad. They were in the stands.

I guess they couldn't get him back. I didn't know. They should only bring three kicking balls to a game. And this is also the first time I've ever heard a special teams coordinator be available.

Like, when I covered the Eagles almost on a daily basis in Philadelphia, during the week the OC and the DC would be made available. This is such a big story. We got to go trot out John Faso, bones. We got to go trot him out and speak at the podium. I know in Dallas, right, the drama Cowboys, Dallas Cowboys, they let anyone speak. Jerry Jones holds court before the game, during the game, after the game. What, you got the special teams coordinator?

Who's a popular guy? I remember my heart knocks with the Rams when he's on the surfboard and all that with the sunscreen on his nose. But come on, what are we doing here? Can't McCarthy just speak for the special teams unit? I thought he gave him a vote of confidence the other day, but I guess it wasn't enough. We got to talk to the coach. What's the next biggest storyline in that game? Because you would agree the kicker's the biggest storyline right now. Brett Maher, who I hope kicks a game-winning like 55-yard field goal and just says bleep off to everyone. I guess from a Cowboys perspective, probably Dak's play? But Dak's coming off a good game?

But it's like, I will say there's a cliff between Brett Maher right now and every other storyline. Because the big stories for the Cowboys all throughout the year, Dak's struggling and McCarthy's on the hot seat. After last week, Dak played great and McCarthy coached his ass off. So it's like, it's a little weird this week to say, oh, McCarthy's on the hot seat because I don't think he is. And can Dak regress? Yeah, absolutely. But Dak just played maybe the best game he's ever played.

So it's weird timing of that. Questia Dovamenta, the GM who just wrapped up his first year in Minnesota has asked that the Vikings will give Kirk Cousins an extension this offseason. You know, it's our expectation it will be our quarterback.

I can't say exactly how that would look. Again, we have everything at our disposal. We'll consider all those things just like we will with everybody else on the roster. I don't know about you, Hickey, but with how many extensions Kirk Cousins has received, and don't get me wrong, the guy is a good quarterback in this league. You're one year away from having any obligations to Kirk Cousins. I would not go give him an extension that locks you into him for the foreseeable future. I would not, in the way that how many quarterbacks have got traded, I would kind of play it safe, let him play out this year, and then you go from there when talking about Kirk Cousins. Do you give him another one-year deal?

He's got, what, is it two years in a row now he's getting a one-year extension? I would just keep it where it is. Let him go in as a lame duck? I don't think you're wrong, to be honest.

Give yourself flexibility. If he plays well, pay him. Because if Lamar Jackson doesn't get traded this offseason, then maybe he gets traded next offseason. Or if Rodgers becomes available, not that the Packers would trade him to Minnesota, but if Rodgers pulls a farven, sits out a year, and then goes up, I'm going to Minnesota, I think you want to leave your options open. Because Kirk's good, but he's not a, you got to have type of quarterback in this league.

And finally, this audio is disturbing. Brandon Staley was asked on if he thinks he was out-coached by Doug Peterson on Saturday night. Bill, I thought it was a tight game. I thought that for a half, I wouldn't say that was the case for a half. I think at the end of the game, that team that we were playing showed a lot of fight, a lot of resilience. I thought it was a high-quality game against two teams that are both young and hungry.

And so I thought it was just a high-level game all the way around. So I think Doug's an outstanding coach, and I know that we were coaching at a high level. And hopefully we're going to get another chance at those guys. How about the ego and the lack of accountability coming from the head coach of the Los Angeles Chargers and Brandon Staley? Oh, hey, Coach Doug Peterson in the first half.

Football is 60 minutes, you dummy. You were spotted a 27-0 lead. And you still couldn't find a way to win a game. If you're asked, hey, Coach, were you out coached by Doug Peterson? Absolutely.

We had a 27-point lead, and I couldn't find any answers to go win a football game. Don't say, oh, well, if you just look at the first half. Oh, I wouldn't say that. Oh, my God.

That's such an analytical nerd, just dumb response. I can't take that. You are a leader. You are a leader of men in that organization.

You don't just break it up into two halves. You sucked on Saturday night. You were horrible on Saturday night. It's even more embarrassing that you dominated the first half and you didn't have your team show up in the second half. But, oh, the first 30 minutes?

If we only break it down in the first 30 minutes, I out coached Doug Peterson. Means nothing. That's bad. Hickey, I know we've both been in the same boat here, that we didn't think he was going to get fired. Even though we thought he should be fired, he absolutely should be fired now after giving that pathetic response to the media. That tells me he thought he was close to being fired or maybe was going to get fired.

How? Because I think now you sense a lot of defensiveness of him trying to just stave off of why he wasn't trying to say he was out coached fully. He admitted the second half did not go his way. I think he realizes or realized, I kind of barely skated out of that and I'm not going to say anything more to change the owner's mind.

Again, I think if you say, I was out coached, I would agree that's the right answer and I think you don't get criticized. I think in his mind, it's like, why am I here then? Why am I still here? You know what? That is an interesting response by you. And at first, I want to just say, what the heck are you talking about? But that is a fair response. I, though, took it and this is just another person interpreting something different as I'm safe, everyone bleep off. I'm not going to admit to you people in the media that I was out coached in this game.

I'm going to tell you how great I was for 30 minutes and nothing will happen to me. That's a news brief Zach Gelb shows CBS Sports Rated. The NFL playoffs live on Odyssey. Touchdown as time expires.

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I have one tattoo that covers my entire body. Listen and subscribe on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts from. You're listening to The Zach Gelb Show. We have kicking news, Hickey.

Any idea what it could be? Well, it has to be only one kicker, right? Brett Maher is. There's been competition brought in.

No. Oh, we have kicking news, Hickey. It is not Brett Maher. Any idea what other kicking news could be out there? You would have thought it would be Brett Maher, because that's the biggest storyline in Cowboys 49ers for this weekend is Brett Maher. But breaking news a minute ago from Adam Schefter, Shefty with some big, big, big, big and I mean big kicking news. Is it that Harrison Butler is out?

No. Seattle Seahawks gave a new four year, twenty one point one million dollar deal worth up to twenty two point six million with incentives to kicker. Jason Meyers, who contract was set to expire in March per source. Meyers tied to the team through the twenty twenty six season. So one big domino to fall in Seattle.

The next up. Let's see what the contract is going to be for one. Gino Smith. They prioritize the kickers contract over Gino.

Interesting. I think Pete Carroll back at it again. Maybe since Pete was worried about his own game this weekend, when he was going back and watching some of the highlights of around the rest of the league or he was sitting there on Monday night after his team was eliminated. Maybe he wasn't like Cliff Kingsbury and was just going to Thailand and getting ready to vacation, even though Cliff lost his job and Pete Carroll still has a job. Maybe just wanted to be still a good football fan, a good football coach and watch the teams that are keep on playing. And maybe he's watching that Cowboys game up against the Buccaneers and was like, wow, this Brett Maher guy, he can't make an extra point. So I got to go extend my kicker and Jason Meyers.

That's what I think this is. And you also saw the Ravens recently paid Rokon to the hundred million dollars. They said, oh, you know, another organization that pays in about the quarterback I'm in. Let's do it. Who can we pay the kicker?

What the hell? Let's do it. I'm fascinated to see what the Gino Smith contract is going to be because you look at three teams. And earlier we were starting off the show talking about Lamar Jackson. We could wind up next in the odds that are out there. Patriots right now, plus four hundred. I don't think he's going to the Pats. Jets are alive for Lamar.

You would think they'd be desperate enough to do so. Plus five hundred Falcons and Raiders at plus six hundred. If the Raiders don't get Brady Lamar with the weapons on that team with Devante Adams, Darren Waller and Hunter Renfro. And if you franchise tag Josh Jacobs, yeah, I would be interested if I'm the Raiders, the Falcons. I think anyone in the NFC South is going to be interested. Bucks if they lose, Brady should be interested. And, you know, the other three teams in the NFC South all tried to go make big plays last year for Deshaun Watson. So they're willing to pay a pretty penny not only with draft picks, but also what it would cost to go get what you would think and be perceived to be a franchise quarterback. Niners at plus seven hundred.

I'd be surprised. Commanders. I think the commanders are a wonderful destination, but with the uncertainty around the ownership of the team, is Dan Snyder going to go make a move like that if he is about to go sell the team? Tennessee at plus eight hundred.

It makes sense for them. They need an upgrade compared to Ryan Tannehill. And you got the Panthers at plus one thousand.

You know, Tepper's always looking to go make a big move. But we were talking about other teams like the Saints and the Dolphins being some other potential destinations. But then we got to three teams that have quarterbacks right now. And two are under contract.

One is not. And I think all three of those quarterbacks are considered with what they just did this past year to have really good seasons. Like Kirk Cousins had a good season this year in Minnesota. Jared Goff played like a top five quarterback in the NFC this year. Geno Smith had the most passing yards in an individual season for any quarterback in the history of the Seattle Seahawks franchise.

But I look at all three of those quarterbacks. Do you think Jared Goff is going to work long term in Detroit? Do you think Geno Smith is going to work long term in Seattle? And for Kirk Cousins, I know they were talking about a potential contract extension. He's got one year left. Kind of feels like if Kirk can't go out there and significantly improve in the playoffs next year, maybe it is time to just cut Kirk loose and maybe you move on and you try to find something that is better.

And if you could put and I said this going back to the summer. If you could put Lamar Jackson with Dalvin Cook and Justin Jefferson. Maybe the only more intriguing option out of the realistic options would be the Dolphins with the speed of Tyree kill and also Jaylen model. So I'm looking around this entire thing right now and you look at the lines, the Vikings in Seattle. I just wonder what they do this offseason. And I think, Kirk, he's locked in, so he's not going anywhere. So truly more a conversation for him next year.

But you look at Seattle and Detroit. Yeah, I do think Jared Goff's going to be there next year. Is there a rookie quarterback on the roster? Do you wait to go see where he is a year from now? And when next year he'd be going into the final year of his contract, there's two more years left on that contract.

Like that's a possibility. And then for Seattle, like Geno Smith had a heck of a year this year. Geno Smith up until that fumble played really well in the playoff game.

I do believe that Geno Smith is going to get a long term extension, but how many years is he going to actually see on that long term extension? So those three teams to me, Hickey and an NFC that compared to the AFC, like, you know who the dominant quarterbacks are in the AFC. You know it's Joe Burrow. You know it's Patrick Mahomes. You know it's Josh Allen.

You know it's Trevor Lawrence and Justin Herbert. You then look at the NFC. You know how much longer Brady and Rodgers are going to be the NFCer playing football? Dak's a good quarterback. Is he a great quarterback?

I'm not ready to say that. So you look around that Kyler Murray banged up and there's questions if he could be great. You know Justin Fields had a really good year. Am I ready to call him a great quarterback?

No, he's got to show me more. So the AFC is filled with great quarterbacks. The NFC not so much. And it shows you how kind of thin and how bare the quarterback play was this year in the NFC when Geno Smith, and I'm not taking anything away from Geno, had a good year. But he shouldn't be a top five quarterback in the NFC. Jared Goff shouldn't be a top five quarterback in the NFC.

Now they played like it, but there wasn't like this great competition in the NFC this year when you look at the quarterback position. So do you think you could win with those guys, and I mean win a Super Bowl, or in a few years from now you're looking elsewhere? And for Jared Goff, I don't think he's, even though he played really well this year, I don't think he's going to be the long term quarterback of the Lions. Kirk Cousins, let's see if he gets another year or two or three on that contract with one more year left in that deal.

And for Seattle, I think they'll give Geno a three or four year deal, but I'll be very curious, Hickey, how that contract's going to be structured and if there's going to be some outs in that contract. If maybe this year for Geno Smith was a one hit wonder, or for Jared Goff, who we've seen him have success before in this league, maybe if he starts to go back to the Jared Goff, which was the reason why Sean McVay wanted to get rid of him in the first place. Especially for the Seahawks and the Lions, because they have picks in the top ten, it's fascinating because I, out of the three, I have the most confidence in actually Jared Goff of maybe succeeding and breaking through. In terms of winning a Super Bowl out of the other two quarterbacks in Geno Smith and Kirk Cousins.

I would agree, and I think age also plays a factor into that as well. But Jared Goff has not been around the block as long as Kirk Cousins and Geno Smith has been. For Kirk, I think there's limitations.

For Geno, I think there's limitations. For Jared Goff, say what you want. I know he was horrible in that Super Bowl up against the Patriots. He's been to a Super Bowl before, and now in Detroit when everyone wrote him off, the fact that we're even having this conversation shows where I don't know if he will ever be a great quarterback, but he could be a good quarterback. He may end up just being like Kirk Cousins.

A guy that could go places, could go win you games, could go play well, but you never think you're actually going to go win the big one. And the tough part for those two teams is, alright, do you say we got our guy at least in the short term and use those high draft picks, either trade down and get more picks or get, you know, a receiver or a defensive play and just kind of load up on your team? Or do you look at what the Chiefs did or the Bills did? And that was, take a playoff team. Those two teams had to trade up to get their quarterbacks.

You don't have to because you're sitting right there depending on what guy you like and if they fall to you. Or you don't have to trade up that far, and you take a swing at trying to get your own Josh Allen or Patrick Holmes because you're right, but you look around the NFC, really not one guy that's going to run the conference the way you look at the three headed monster in the AFC that's going to run the conference for most likely the next decade. And you look at the NFC playoffs, look at all the quarterbacks in there, where they're drafted compared to the AFC. AFC, all under 30, all top 10 picks.

NFC, outside of Daniel Jones, no one taking the top 10. And also, remember for Detroit, Detroit's got two first round picks. They're sitting at six.

It's easy to move up from six to maybe one or six to like three. So you'll get whoever the second quarterback is. If you want the first quarterback, obviously you can move up to one with the Bears, and you also have 18. So Detroit has picks right now. Two picks in the first round, they have a pick very early.

Seattle, because of that trade with the Broncos and how it just blew up in the Broncos' face, they're at number five. So Chicago's not going to take a quarterback. Houston will.

Arizona won't. Like if the Colts, you would think the Colts would take a quarterback, but if they don't fall in love with someone or if they pick the other guy, your guy could be there for the Seahawks or the Lions. Like let's just say the Bears don't trade the pick. Let's say they go with Jalen Carter, Will Anderson Jr., and the Texans take Bryce Young, and the Cardinals don't take a quarterback. Let's say the Colts, I think a lot of people would say CJ Shroud, the second best quarterback in the draft, maybe the Colts do their evaluation and they say, we like Will Levis. Look, the Seahawks are sitting there.

Lions are sitting there. You're both going to pass up on CJ Shroud when you don't have to play them right away because you would have Goffs on the contract for two years and you would just have signed Geno Smith to a new deal, let's say on like a three-year deal. So it's very, those two teams, like Kirk's not going anywhere this year. Jared Goff's back next year. Seattle, I think they're going to get a deal done with Geno Smith, but do they look to where their draft position is to fill other areas or do they say, let's go get that quarterback of the future and we're in a position where we don't have to play them right away. Zach Gelb shows CBS Sports Radio.

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Trey Lance. When responding, I guess, to one of these posts on Instagram that put a photo up of Rand and basically said that he was going to Tennessee to be a GM, had an emoji or three emojis that he posted on his story with his fingers being crossed. Now, Hickey, the only way that I could interpret that is to be one thing. If you're close with this guy in the organization and you're wishing him well and you do like the the hands up emoji, like, yeah, that's my guy. Good job, Rand. Congratulations. All that.

But when you're doing the crossing the fingers emoji, that's wishful thinking of I'm hoping at least this is the way that I interpret it, that you go find the way to go trade for me. And maybe Trey Lance wants out of San Francisco. But if you're Trey Lance, I know Brock Purdy is playing great. And I know Brock Purdy is, you know, is playing like a stud right now. But Trey Lance, you would think would have that alpha mentality of I was the third overall pick in the draft.

I came from North Dakota State. I have the chip on my shoulder. I know even though Brock's playing well, he's only on the field because I got hurt. Then that opened up the door for Jimmy G. Then Jimmy G got hurt.

And then Brock Purdy got on the field. But I would think. I don't know if entitlement is the right word. But if you're Trey Lance, you're thinking that next year you're entitled to be a starting quarterback just based off how much that they gave up for you.

Now, nothing's guaranteed, right? There was a time when Drew Bledsoe was one hundred million dollar man, highest paid quarterback in the league. And he was replaced by Tom Brady because of an injury. But I thought that was bizarre last night when everything's going well for the Niners right now. No one's even talking about Trey Lance. But maybe Trey is getting the sense that he's potentially on the way out of the organization or he's just frustrated with the organization.

This is bizarre. Frustrating is a good word because, like I said, he didn't play the first year and that was expected. So it's not like that was an upset outside of two games.

And this is supposed to be the year. And in game two, you get hurt out for the year. Now you're seeing a guy come in and just have all the success that you should be having.

I mean, like I'm with you, like when you put the fingers crossed emoji, that's kind of like insinuating. Come get me. Please come get me out of here. Let me have a fresh start or a real chance to get the job. But I mean, I'm with you, like you would hope that he would be motivated and say Brock Purdy is playing great now. Hope wins the Super Bowl. But next year, it's my job.

I'm going to show everyone why I was they moved mountains to go get me a number three. Well, let me clarify one thing after just given more thought here. It may not be frustration with the organization. Now, I don't know what John Lynch and what Kyle Shanahan are telling him. I would think they'd be focused on the game this weekend, not the feelings of Trey Lance.

But let's remember something. Trey Lance. It's only his second year in the league. Trey Lance, not that far removed from college. Trey Lance grew up in our kind of era that's so reliant on social media. And you have a Twitter, you have Instagram, you have Facebook. So it's not crazy to say that Trey Lance, even if he's not posting constantly, I don't know how much he's posting. I don't follow him religiously. But maybe every day he's like all of us where you wake up, you open up your Twitter, you open up Instagram.

And maybe on his Twitter and his Instagram, which clearly he's gained more of a following now throughout the years from where it once was when it was really innocent being on those devices. There's a lot of conversation from people that have followed him and used to be supportive that are now just salivating and slobbering all over Brock Purdy. And talking about Brock Purdy being the next face of the Niners. When this initially happened, when Brock Purdy started to have some success, Bill Romanowski was on this show. And Bill Romanowski, who played with Joe Montana, right away said, I see some Joe Montana. And a friend of mine sent me an article that Romanowski clip that was with us, which had to be now what, a month and a half ago?

If not more than that, like around that month, month and a half, you know, give or take a few weeks, who knows? But that interview was put in another article over the weekend because I guess more and more people are starting to say he's reminded us like Joe Montana. And I'm sure there's some people that are tweeting to Trey Lance because people are jerks on social media.

You're going to lose your job. We want Brock Purdy. Hope they trade you this offseason or something like that. And maybe he's just frustrated with some of the fans because he's not feeling the love like when he was first drafted. And there's been a conversation if he even should have been the draft pick and now people are going right to Brock Purdy because he's winning games. So maybe this is just a young 20 year old that's affected by the social media noise and he's like, I don't need the Niners.

Tennessee has an opening. I don't know what his relationship is with the new general manager, but they're in the same organization. So let's do some fingers crossed emoji and hope that I get traded there. That's the way that I kind of view this. I don't think it's frustration with the team. Maybe it's frustration with the fan base because those fans are excited and elated and loving what they're seeing with Brock. And if I'm Trey Lance, I get it. You feel as if you're getting ignored.

You feel as if they've already moved on and moved on to something else. Well, yeah, I mean, you're right. The team's done nothing because, again, the plan was for him to basically right shirt last year. And again, for the most part outside two games, he did that. And he was given the job this year.

There was, you know, they tried their hand is to give it to do trade. Jimmy Jean didn't work. So it's like they brought, you know, it's like there was this competition of all it's going to be, you know, trailers versus Jimmy G. We'll see we got it was trailing his job from day one and just unfortunately got hurt early on and nothing you can do about that. You can't control the way the backup and the backups backup plays and you can't get mad about that.

I think this is a bad look for Trey Lance. I don't want to get too crazy into analyzing emojis. But this just seems very unnecessary because now it's it's going to become a story. People are going to talk about this. Well, are you happy? Do you even want to be here?

What's the future? And if you're someone that feels like Brock Purdie is the guy, then Trey Lance is posting this emoji of like basically insinuating, come get me, go trade for me. And I think that's the only way to look into it. It's more you're pushing them more and more away from the organization. If you're a fan, I would say if you're the Tennessee Titans, would you look into it?

I guess you have to. I don't know. I don't know what his trade value would be, but that's the thing. I don't know what the Trey Lance trade value would be. And you're not going to get back nearly what you gave up.

The guy's done nothing in this league. And it was it was questionable at the time. Remember the decision on who they were going to trade for him when they give up all those assets. It was like, OK, you traded all that for for him.

There's a lot of uncertainty. So I don't know what it would be, but we know they don't believe in Malik Willis or Mike Rabel doesn't believe in Malik Willis. He went to Joshua Dobbs. You know, they don't love Ryan Tannehill. They like Brian Tannehill. They don't love him. So if the new general manager says, I was in San Francisco, I was in San Francisco when they drafted him. This is why we drafted him, Mike. We think he would be good.

And maybe they go get it. I don't know. Is it a second round pick?

I don't know what it would be. If it's anything out of the first round for a quarterback that you may think is a potential franchise quarterback, may end up being a bargain. But I don't know if Trey Lance could play in this league because going back to our conversation from the draft, everything I heard about this guy. And I've talked to Trey Lance before. When you speak to me, blows you away. He's impressive when you talk to him. He comes off as a guy that's a leader of men, but. Everyone said, oh, high ceiling, high ceiling, high ceiling.

Like, I'll be honest with you. We didn't see him a lot at North Dakota State. You know, the numbers are good for the guys who played football in three years.

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