Jalen Hurts or Carson Wentz? (Hour 3)

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Washington, also Minnesota, made the Pro Bowl six times and is in the Eagles Hall of Fame. And that's number five, Donovan McNabb. Donovan, how you been? I'm doing outstanding. How's it going over there, Zach?

Well, I'm doing great. Can't complain. And we got a big matchup this weekend.

Eagles and commanders. We're getting week three set coming up tonight with the Steelers and the Browns. So all is good. A lot of excitement with the Eagles right now, as you know, Donovan. What have been your impressions so far on Jalen Hurts?

You know what? I've enjoyed every bit of just the team effort. You go from the very first game, I thought defensively we were as sound as we needed to be. We couldn't stop the run.

The play action game started to kill us in the second half. Offensively, I thought they carried the load by, you know, Devontae not really being as involved as he was in the second game, but then AJ Brown stepped up and had a big game. Obviously, Jalen Hurts was consistent. He was accurate.

He was moving the chains. I thought Miles Sanders kind of closed the deal at the end by running the football effectively. I thought our second game was one that opened up a lot of eyes for a lot of the naysayers on the outside because we've seen a total team effort on the offensive end of being able to pass the ball, play action, quarterback runs to the running game. I've seen every facet of the game be very effective for us on offense and defensively. It was the defense I expected. I thought Slade played well. Bradenberry played well.

I thought our linebackers flowed and was able to neutralize Dalvin Cook, in which we got pressure on Kirk Cousins as well with our blitzes. When you evaluate Jalen Hurts, and you know it in this league, you either have the quarterback or you don't, do you think the Eagles have their franchise quarterback? I've said it since he was drafted in the second round.

I said he was the grown man in the room when Carson Wentz was there. I thought people need to really look at his experience and how we got to this position. Going to Alabama and learning that offense and leading them to national championships, and then leaving after he finished at Alabama and being a graduate transfer to go to Lincoln Riley, the quarterback guru that everyone labeled as, and leading his team to a BCS championship berth, having an opportunity to play in the playoffs, and being a Heisman Trophy candidate, showing that he can throw the football. And so coming into the NFL, there was not that much pressure on him because he was able to learn three different offenses.

I say three because you had Lane Kiffin and Sarkeesian over there in Alabama, and then going to Lincoln Riley. So coming to Philadelphia was another step for him and a challenge, and we're seeing him being able to put the pressure on his shoulders and be able to move forward with his head high. When it comes to the step that he's taken this year, and so far he's taken a big leap, and this was a team that was in the playoffs a year ago, Donovan McNabb, my expectations before the year were the Eagles were going to win this division.

Can they do more than that? Do you think this team has the looks early on of a Super Bowl contender? I wouldn't so-called say Super Bowl right now. I think they'll be a strong NFC East contender of being able to win the NFC East. I'm looking forward to them possibly making an advance into the second round. And at that particular point, as a player, you know that you need a little bit of luck and an extra push to be able to get you over the hump, but I definitely see us as a playoff team, a team that will be a little up and down during a regular season. So what we're seeing now, there will be some highs and there will be some lows, but I think we're strong enough from an experience standpoint from the players to be able to overcome a lot of adversities that they'll face this year. Talking to Donovan McNabb right now on the Zach Gelb show, I've given a lot of praise and a lot of criticism as well throughout the years to Howie Roseman. It's time to really throw some flowers his way because I love the way that he constructed this team and also Donovan, there's one thing for a team to say, that's our guy, that's our franchise quarterback, and then you have to show it with actions by getting him big time players like an A.J.

Brown. I love the way that Howie attacked this offseason. I don't know about that so-called. I mean, I love how everyone's giving them credit and I give credit as well to Howie, but that doesn't automatically mean that he's, you know, kind of labeling Jalen as a franchise quarterback. No one has ever said that, and we're all saying that, but we haven't heard them say that. You can bring in talented weapons on the outside to say that, you know, if it works, then it's like, yeah, he's our guy, but if it doesn't work, then they say we're going to go get our guy because we have all the pieces in place. And that's the way organizations work, and that's what the NFL is about, that's what all professional sports is about, is that it's their job to bring in the best players at the key positions.

And for the ones that you may not feel confident with, you think that helps them going forward, and if it doesn't work, then they'll go get someone because they're already with finished products everywhere else. So I just want to hear them say that, and hear the people in Philadelphia and everywhere else say that. I say that, I believe that, you believe that, but we have to hear that because we can say the same thing about Baltimore and everyone knowing that Lamar Jackson is a franchise quarterback, but you got to pay him like a franchise quarterback. Donovan McNabb here with us. What are your expectations this year for Carson Wentz with another new team now being the quarterback of the commanders? Well, knowing Ron Rivera from a personal standpoint and also being on the coaching staff with us in Philadelphia, I know that he's a guy that's patient. I know that he's a guy that's going to push and be in his corner of his players. So if Carson has highs, he has lows, Carson knows that Ron is always going to be in his corner, and there won't be kind of any backstabbing or, you know, leaking any information from an organization that we've all seen, you know, for myself being a part of.

Throughout my career. So I know Ron will be there for him. I think this will be a good year for Carson coming off of last season in Indy where I think he has some talent around him. The defense I think is a lot better than people are giving him credit for in Washington.

So they're going to be much better than people think. I think for the Washington commanders, it will be a challenge this weekend versus the Philadelphia Eagles because I think the commanders can really compete with them on every level of the offense and defense. So I just think for Carson, if he protects the football and gets out of the pocket when he has to, then it helps move the chains for that offense.

And it takes a lot of pressure off of the other key roles in the key positions on the offensive end. When you go up against your old team, and I know it's now a team that was in between in Indianapolis, but Carson started that career out in Philadelphia, how do you handle those emotions when you go up against an old team? Well, I mean, you know, coming back to Philadelphia when I was in Washington, you know, obviously the first thing in your mind is you want to do whatever it takes to win. You want to prove your worth. You want to show them that they made the mistake. But you don't want to get so out of whack that you just don't play your game.

You're trying to do too much. So I think just the motivation of doing what it takes to win is now the stepping stone. Now everything else is just being well prepared and reading your keys and being able to be, you know, accurate with the ball and be able to get the ball to the guys that allowed them to make plays for you. But I think what you're going to see is you're going to see the commanders kind of rally around Carson to try to do whatever it takes to help them get this win.

And that's the same thing that happened with me when I was in Washington with my teammates. So it's going to be a battle. It's going to be a grind. It's going to be one to watch, definitely, when the game comes about. But I think the Philadelphians will come out on top because I think this overall talent on both sides of the ball will be able to prevail to be able to win at the end. Is it a little bit different because the Eagles are on the road this week. Now there will be a lot of Eagles fans, as we know, in Landover, Maryland. Oh, we travel well. Yeah, there's no doubt about that.

And the commanders fans don't really show up all that much because the team's been disgraceful throughout the years and it's a terrible stadium. But anyway, all that aside, is it a little bit different just mentally since the Eagles, it's not at Lincoln Financial Field for Carson this week and then it will be different when you get into that game at the Lincoln November? Well, I mean, for me, I wanted it like I had it. I wanted to be in Philadelphia for the first game. I wanted to get it over with.

I wanted to get back and kind of be able to, you know, just get that little notch on your belt. And we were able to win that game. We lost, obviously, in Maryland. But I will say this for Carson, yes, it is probably better for him to be in Washington playing this first game. Because it's really early for him and then, you know, the thing that they're doing in Philadelphia is, Sirianni's changed the culture over there.

At least when I was, you know, playing, Andy was still over there, so I had my guy still on the other sideline. For Nick Sirianni, you know, he wasn't with Nick very long. And so when Nick made the change, you know, obviously to go with Jalen, you know, being his guy, you know, Carson was kind of moving on at that time. So I just think for Carson, this is great for him. This is a perfect opportunity for him to show what he can really do.

Obviously last week against Detroit wasn't his best performance. And now it's for him to kind of rewrite the ship and try to carry him along to be able to compete in the NFC. Donovan McNabb here with us.

You talk about the advantage in terms of talent for the Eagles. Is that at the quarterback position? Do you prefer Hertz over Wentz?

You know what? Right now, I would say yes, just from what I've seen as far as the change of the offense. The change of the offense is better suited for Jalen Hertz. And that was my question with Nick Sirianni when he came in, was what type of offense are you going to run? You know, because being in San Diego when it was in San Diego, I believe at that time with Philip Rivers and then coming over to Indianapolis and then having Philip Rivers again with Frank Wright, the offense was a whole lot different than what we're seeing now. And I thought he brought that same approach over from Indy to Philadelphia early until he realized the talent he had starting with the quarterback position.

And he kind of changed up that offense where it's suited for Jalen and AJ and Dallas and Devontae where it works in their favor. And really the beneficiary of it all that no one talks about is Miles Sanders, Boston Scott, and the rest of the running game because I think they can benefit on it just like you're seeing Taylor over there run in Indy where I think they can have a pretty big year for them. Donovan McNabb here with us. Right now, who's the best quarterback in the NFL in your opinion?

Best quarterback in the NFL to me right now, I would say probably it's either it's a tie between Josh Allen and Patrick Mahone. I know everybody wants to kind of look for the new shiny toy and jump on the Josh Allen train, but Patrick hasn't went anywhere. And Patrick's going to put up great numbers. Patrick's going to do the same thing he's been doing with Andy. Even though Tariq's not there, they're just going to be a little bit more consistent and spread the ball around. But everybody's jumping on the Josh Allen train and shit because he's talented.

He does a lot of great things, but I would say it's a tie between the two. You mentioned Tyreek Hill. He's now down in Florida along with Jalen Waddle and Tuatunga Vailoa, Dolphins 2-0, and they go up against Josh Allen, the Bills this weekend in Miami. What have you been seeing so far from Tuatunga and where's your belief level that he's going to have a breakout year this season?

This is a thing that people need to realize. If you look across the board at what he has at his disposal on offense, all it looks like is him back at Alabama. And we know how great he played when he was at Alabama when he had speed on the outside, he had a running game with guys that can catch the ball out of the backfield, tight ends that can get out down the field versus safeties and linebackers. And so it's working in his favor because he's back, it feels like he's back at home. And so I'm very impressed with Tuatunga because I think personally that Tuatunga is also a franchise quarterback, especially for the Miami Dolphins. And people want to highlight his arm strength, but when you're accurate, when you're getting the ball out on time, and you have weapons that can turn a 14, 15-yard game to a 45-yard touchdown, everybody looks great. Are you starting to be a little bit skeptical on Russell Wilson? The last year and a half things haven't gone his way, now on a new team. Not at all. And I know the coach has been a major problem there in Denver so far. Not at all.

Not at all. Russell Wilson is a hall of famer and Russell Wilson is a guy that you can rely on to help win games at the end. I put more pressure on Hackett. I put more pressure on head coach Hackett because the decisions that he's making in these first couple weeks are not head coaches' decisions.

They're coordinator positions that have the idea from a coordinator position, but don't pull the plug being the head coach. Now you're the head coach and you have to say yes or no. And so he's not trusting Russell, which leads to the team not fully confident yet in Hackett. And so I say that because you go to that Seattle game. Russell threw for over 300 yards in that Seattle game. And you know the magnitude of that game because he's coming back to play versus former team. And you don't put the ball in his hand.

You kick a 64-yard field goal, which I think the kickers are 1-10 in 60-plus yard field goals. And you're not playing in Denver. And then I go to the last game, which the offense just seemed a little out of whack. This last game was even worse than the first game, and I didn't think that could be the case because his own fans were mocking the head coach. That's tough. Well, it's tough because, again, he's a young coach, never been a head coach.

Everyone gets enamored again with the guys who are 35 and under or whatever. But he's never been a head coach in that situation, which you wonder if he was even the guy calling the plays in Green Bay. Because LaFleur is the one that's calling the plays. So to me, it's a lot of pressure on him at this point.

Now, don't get me wrong. Denver's going to be highly competitive in the West. They're going to turn this thing around. You'll see Russell start to play well, Judy, Sutton, those guys will start elevating their game. But I need to see them be able to run the ball a little bit more effectively in order for that offense to be strong. They have two great running backs that are kind of similar but very different. But they need to run that offense through the running game so the play-action game can work in the favor for Russell. Donovan McNabb, before we let you run, I know you're a big fan of Kyler Murray. We've talked about him before, what a comeback that was last week up against the Raiders being down 20 to nothing.

This week, Kyler Murray at home welcomes in the defending Super Bowl champion, L.A. Rams. How do you see that game playing on out? That's going to be tough.

That's really going to be tough. You know, when you don't have your number one receiver who's out for a few more weeks, AJ Green seems, he was a little off last week dropping a few balls. I think their slot receiver from Purdue, he's out. So now, I think when you're playing against Aaron Donald, which we know can become a problem from a defensive line standpoint, Jalen Ramsey really brought his confidence back from last week's performance. I think it's going to be a lot of pressure and a lot of heat on this Arizona Cardinals football team. I don't see them winning this game. I think it's going to be close to a double-digit loss. But I just think it's going to be a tough uphill battle for the Arizona Cardinals.

One more for you. Packers and Bucks this weekend. Rogers up against Brady down in Tampa.

Give me a thought or two on that. It's going to be just like that NFC Championship. The game that we thought Green Bay should have won, but they end up losing because Aaron didn't run the ball in the end zone. And it wasn't Matt Lafleur fault.

Everybody tried to point the finger at Matt Lafleur because he kicked the field goal. I think it'll be just like that because offensively, Tampa's trying to figure themselves out. Defensively, they're strong. They're back to where they were back in the Super Bowl run. So it's now just on the offense. And it's the battle versus the offense versus Green Bay defense that is strong. But I expect to see them run the ball effectively. The screen game is going to be big for Tampa. Aaron lessons is going to come up with opportunities for guys that you least expect to step up and to make plays for them. But again, it's hard to bet against Tom Brady.

I don't care what anybody says. No matter what it is, you can win 7-6. You can win 10-9.

And Tom's on top. You know, he just finds ways to win. And I just think Tampa, right now, they figured it out on defense.

But offensively, I think this is when they turn the corner. He's a six-time Pro Bowler. Always excellent when he joins us, Donovan McNabb. Donovan, great to hear your voice. Appreciate you catching up with us.

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It had a two foot wingspan. Just search for Something Off Beat in the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to The Zach Gelb Show. Zach Gelb Show, CBS Sports Radio. Good stuff with Donna McNabb, who just joined us a few moments ago. Let's get into that matchup a little bit this weekend. We'll have a full football Friday show tomorrow. We'll preview all the college games, the big games of college football, the NFL games, Jersey Jerry from Barstool Sports.

We'll stop by at his weekly pick spot at 9.20 p.m. Eastern, 6.20 p.m. Pacific coming up tomorrow. But when we get into that Commander's Eagles game, the Eagles are going to land over Maryland this weekend. You have the Eagles who are red hot, 2-0 to start off the year.

Jalen Hurts looked unbelievable on Monday Night Football up against the Minnesota Vikings. And now there's a lot of national buzz this week on the Philadelphia Eagles. And I feel as if I was the leader of that buzz going back to the draft when I sat here, I sat in Las Vegas and told you the moment they traded for A.J. Brown, the Eagles were going to win the division. That was my take that night.

Some people thought I was crazy. I said they will win the division this year. I feel even more confident, and I was pretty confident at the draft, than I do now. I feel even more confident now because you've seen what this team has been the first two weeks of the season.

I know the Giants are 2-0, but the Giants will make the playoffs this year. You look at a team like the Commanders, I don't trust Carson Wentz. And the Dallas Cowboys, we don't know when Dak Prescott's coming back, even though he returned to the practice field today. And Jerry Jones is trying to start a quarterback competition, but let's not avoid one of the problems with the Cowboys. That offensive line still stinks.

So even when Dak comes back, how good are you going to be? And I give Cooper Rush and the Cowboys credit, give Mike McCarthy credit too. They beat the Bengals, but I still view the Philadelphia Eagles as the best team in this division. And let's be real, the Eagles may be better than only being viewed as a team that is the best team in the NFC East. They could be one of the top teams in the NFC this year. And that's not me saying the Eagles are a great team this year. It's more so the byproduct of a crappy NFC. Rams, Green Bay, Tampa, you know, those are really damn good teams.

We all know that. But the Buccaneers offensively have had problems. The Packers, one week they show up offensively, the next week they don't. You look at a team like the Rams, they have not played a clean game this season. Those are still the three best teams to me in the NFC.

And I told you earlier, you know, I told you all the way going back to last week. I think the Buccaneers are going to the Super Bowl and I'll stand by that when it's open. I just think Tom Brady will find the way to edge out everyone else like he's done throughout his entire career. But this Eagles team is the top four team. They are top four team in the NFC. And to be able to say that after two weeks shows you that the way that Howie Rowe has been envisioning this in the offseason, it's working on out.

Now, Ryan, you were not here on Tuesday because you were out with the Colts flow. We have not had an opportunity to discuss this Monday night game. Where are you at when it comes to the AGLES Eagles and what they could accomplish this season? I'm still not in on the Eagles.

I think they're going to win the NFC some with you, but that's more of a default to the rest of the division not being very good. Even in that one game on Monday night, like I know there's a lot of praise for Jalen Hurts, what he did. It was only the first half. Second half, the offense kind of bogged down.

He had a bad turnover that could have. The Vikings had any sort of competence on offense that night, could have gotten them back in the game. So I'm still not high on the Eagles in terms of them, you know, being a legitimate contender in the NFC. In part because I still don't trust Jalen Hurts. I don't. They played two games so far against the Vikings who have a bad defense against the Lions who have a bad defense.

So I'm not going to go, you know, jumping or, you know, doing cartwheels. Well, I'm not going to tell you that Jalen Hurts is definitely the franchise quarterback, but Jalen Hurts is a good quarterback. The guy in the way that football's played in 2022 could kill you with his legs.

And we saw that multiple times the way he bulldozed through defense with his legs. And then you saw that 50-something yard touchdown pass. There has been an improvement from Jalen Hurts from last year to this year. I'm not telling you let's have him fitted for a gold jacket and have him sign that franchise quarterback contract just yet.

I do think he's going to get paid because if you take the team to the playoffs last year, take the team to the playoffs this year, it's going to be tough to justify moving on from said quarterback. And you got to show me and Ron Jaworski said on the show, before I call you franchise quarterback, you got to dominate in those big moments. But I do think we could say that Jalen Hurts is a good quarterback. You don't just for right now, you don't think he's a good quarterback? The two games he's played well, I want to see consistency.

That's part of it. That's my biggest thing with him, too, is just inconsistency. And again, even on Monday night, good first half, great first half, second half.

They didn't put a point on the board. Yeah, I guess you have to be more consistent in order to become, you know, considered a really good quarterback in the NFL. Now, sometimes you say things and you may not take the schedule into consideration. The Eagles schedule is soft. If the Eagles don't win 12 games, it will be disappointing this year.

Now, you may say, Zach, 12 games, whoa, hold on. Commanders this weekend. Jaguars. Cardinals. Cowboys. Steelers. Texans.

Commanders. The Colts. Green Bay. Tennessee. Giants. Chicago. Dallas. Saints.

Giants. That is a soft schedule, Hickey. It is, which underscores that they don't win 12 games. Okay, then there's more of a question mark about the quarterback. Like it's the expectations are high in part because, like you said, the schedule is set up. They should beat most of these teams. Well, here's what my expectations are for the Eagles this year. Win the NFC East. And I will say it after two weeks in the season, win a playoff game. That's my expectations for Philadelphia.

Win the NFC East, which they will, win a playoff game. Because if Jalen Hurts, in really his second full year as a starting quarterback, wins the division, gets you the playoffs back to back years, and then wins you a playoff game, that's showing me that Jalen Hurts is a lot better than when people thought he was coming out of college. Now, this could be a tough question for you.

This could have a lot of conflicting emotions for you. I'm not trying to bring up bad moments from your pass, which when it comes to quarterbacks, you've had a lot of bad moments in your pass. You know, I don't want to bring up the Andrew Luck injury. I don't want to bring up you believing in Carson Wentz. I don't want to bring up you doubting Josh Allen as a quarterback. I don't want to bring up these moments that you've had where you've been very wrong on some certain quarterbacks. This weekend, who has the quarterback advantage? Is it your old BFF Carson Wentz with the commanders? Or is it the Philadelphia Eagles with Jalen Hurts who you are doubting if he is actually the guy in Philadelphia? Hickey is pondering. He's rubbing his mustache right now. I will take Jalen Hurts.

Because? I think right now he's playing better football these first two games, and I don't trust Carson Wentz to not make a mistake, especially when there's emotions involved going at your former team. I can see him trying to do too much and losing the game.

I feel like I am hosting a therapy session right now that should be watched by commanders fans. I'm going to go to a Colts fan here that you're hearing from in hot take Hickey. I have a lot of commanders fans for some reason chirping me this week thinking that Carson Wentz is the guy for the Washington commanders because he ties the league so far through two games and touchdown passes. I guess they are looking past the interceptions and all the turnovers. But it's all he has seven passing touchdowns. We have something in Carson Wentz.

I've gotten that tweet a lot this week. I've had a lot of commanders fans not only tell me that Carson Wentz has done a good job so far this season, but that Carson Wentz is a really damn good quarterback. And it was the Colts who failed him last year. And then you're seeing Matt Ryan's think up the joint and they wish that Carson Wentz was still the quarterback of the Indianapolis Colts. Can you being someone of experience of me telling you all last year that Carson Wentz wasn't going to work out in Indianapolis and now me telling commanders fans that even though their schedule is soft that Wentz will disappoint you when it matters the most bestows some wisdom on the commanders fans that all of a sudden are popping out of the woodworks now pumping their chests and puffing their chests out because this team is one and one. And it's bizarre that they're doing so after that offense did not show up in the first half and because Wentz in the second half got them back in the game all the sudden when you beat the Jaguars and you lose the Lions. Now some commanders fans already drinking the Kool-Aid when it comes to Carson Wentz.

Patience is a virtue and I would suggest to all commanders fans out there exercise patience. I was the same person this time last year after week seven or eight. So even later in the season than right now, I said to myself, I think the Colts found their quarterback and you said Wentz was better than Josh Allen.

And little did I know a few weeks later that all crumbled in front of my face. So it's week two. I don't know what you're jumping up and down for considering that they just lost the Lions. Some of those touchdown passes came in garbage time.

Yes, Carson Wentz likes to do calm down. Patience let the season play out. There's no need to jump to conclusions and make declarations about your future two games into a brand new season when the two teams you have played are two of the worst teams in the NFL in the Jaguars and Lions. I think this game is going to be within a touchdown. But I'm really hoping that the Philadelphia Eagles just destroy the commanders this weekend.

I want to see the Eagles just embarrass the commanders. And I like Ron Rivera a lot. I like Jahan Dotson a lot. I love Terry McLaurin a lot. I'm a big fan of Curtis Samuel.

Chase Young, I know he's not playing, but we were in his hotel room in Vegas at the draft. And I like some of the players on the commanders team. But Carson Wentz, I just can't fathom the takes that are going to occur if he beats his old team in the Philadelphia Eagles and just some of the dumb premature comments people are going to be making about Carson Wentz. I hope the Eagles this week.

I don't think it's going to happen. Like I said, I think it's going to be a touchdown game. But I hope the Eagles win this game by 20 points. That's what I want to see this week. I think if anything, you should hope that the commanders win, build up a little extra confidence, a little extra hope. That way when this comes crashing down, it hurts even more. I don't want to see people just continue to get burned and have false hope.

And that would be providing false hope to commanders fans who are already drinking all the false hope already. I once was a victim of Carson Wentz. I was in Philadelphia and I thought he was the guy. And everything I thought he was, he ended up being an absolute fraud about. And then I tried to warn Hot Take Hickey and he told me, Zach, he's with Frank Greg, it's going to be different than Indianapolis, he's got a good offensive line.

And he stunk. This year, you're one on one against the Jaguars and the Lions. Trust me, folks, at the end of the year, if you're a commanders fan, you're not going to be happy because I made this analogy before I'll make it again. Rooting for Carson Wentz to do well with the commanders is kind of like a college student who is on a meal plan in college. And you have crappy food in that dorm and then you go three, four blocks away and you go off campus and you get a meal that's OK.

But you think that meal is great. Carson Wentz is OK. He's average below average. But when you've had years after years and years of dreadful quarterback play, the below average to average guy you think is great when he's not great. Carson Wentz is the taco stand off campus. He is the gyro stand off campus, the pizza spot off campus.

Compared to actual good taco stands and good pizza stops, shops. He's not on the same level as the good ones. It's because you've been tortured and you've suffered for year after year after year of bad quarterback play. And now you think because this guy is decent and has some moments where he looks like he'd be good, but more bad moments, you think he's the guy. You could thank me later.

You don't need to thank me now. Wentz will not work out with the Washington commanders. This is the Zach Yelp Show on CBS Sports Radio.

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Number one battery destination, get in the zone, auto zone. I saw an embarrassing tweet during the break. This tweet is awful. I don't care how big or strong Tony Gonzalez is. I'm tougher than him because if you need gloves for 60 degree weather, you aren't tough.

No ifs, ands or buts. Now, this was during pregame where, as Tom Brady would say, finally, Ryan Fitzpatrick doesn't look homeless after looking homeless last week when on set for Amazon. But during the pregame show in a game right now where the Browns are up seven to nothing, as you just had an Amari Cooper touchdown that was set up by a big 30 yard run by Nick Chubb. Tony Gonzalez, who is like a mannequin. He is like a GI Joe type of person. This dude is a statue.

He is perfectly built. And he would absolutely destroy this person. That was a Twitter tough guy. And I don't know if Tony Gonzalez is on Twitter or not. But.

If you are that person. You should probably tag Tony Gonzalez on Twitter and let me do a quick little search. Tony Gonzalez. So he is on Twitter.

The person that tweeted this is the guy that I'm looking at right now. Hot take Kiki, who is an emaciated man. Kiki, Tony Gonzalez would eat you alive.

He would look at you and you someone. I've never threw a punch in my life. That's what you said. And you think you could kick the crap out of Tony Gonzalez, who would make you cry just by faking to make a move at you to try to take you down. I mean, if you're wearing gloves and it's that warm out, how tough are you? Like, honestly. Is that that really that big of a deal?

Yes. For example, I have the studio here in 60 degrees, 62 degrees right now. You're like, oh, it's too cold. It's too cold. You make a big deal out about it.

You bitch all the time about that. Yeah, I'm not wearing gloves. Sometimes you wear a hat and you're wearing long sleeves today.

Who wears long sleeves today? 65 degrees. It's not 65 degrees. It's going to drop down to the 50s tonight.

Stop. It's gonna be chilly. When I when I was walking to work today and we had some rain. It was 68 degrees today, not 60. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You got me.

I thought it was like 71 point when I was after the rain, when I was walking around, it felt nice in the city today. Real nice. And come on. See, this is why you're emaciated. Us large people.

We like to wear shorts until like October, November. That strengthens my point even more than Tony Gonzalez is bigger and stronger than me. He should have more body heat to keep him warm.

That's not how it actually works. He's wearing gloves. So what?

Give me a break. He's a California kid. This is like when the Florida kid right now is wearing a North face. I'm with you in terms of I would not be wearing gloves, but when you're from California, you're in the desert. Where is he from in California?

Huntington Beach, California. It gets below 60 degrees there. He is.

He played in Kansas City. It got cold. Tony, come on, man.

It's week three. You would not beat him, though, up in a fight. I hope you know that. I mean, look, if he's wearing gloves right now, how tough. Can he take a punch?

I don't know. Now, if the fight isn't indoors, then maybe you have a chance. If it's outside in the cold streets at 60-something degrees, then maybe you have a shot. And by maybe, I mean you better knock him out in the first punch you deliver or else he's going to open up a can of whoop ass on you. Someone on Amazon has to tell him, Tony, ditch the gloves. No go in the glove.

Who cares? Who advised him gloves is the move? Maybe he has a cut on his hand and he's covering up something.

So what? What do you have to cover up a cut for? Maybe he's very sensitive about a cut that's on his thumb or something. Then go Michael Jackson. Wear the one glove.

All right? No, that's embarrassing. You've got to wear two gloves. No, it's embarrassing wearing gloves in 60-degree weather.

That's embarrassing. Those are like leather gloves, too. Those are like old man gloves.

I'm going to quote to you. No, it's style. So you don't have that style. No, that's not style. The leather gloves is stylish. I'm seven years old.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That is classy. That is a nice looking glove by Tony Gonzalez. I'm going to tweet Tony Gonzalez.

I think Tony Gonzalez, 88, would win this fight. You are not tougher than him. He's wearing gloves, man. What do you want to say?

If you can't handle the cold, quote unquote, the cold, what else can you handle? You know that this man played in the National Football League was a Hall of Famer. I'm very much aware.

In one of the more violent sports that we have on this planet. I am very aware. It made me re-question everything, though.

Gotcha. Bad job. I'm just saying there's a lot of things that you do that would make me question how tough you are.

That I think will cancel out Tony Gonzalez wearing gloves. Nothing I do. You just called out sick for two days because you had a little cold. Because I was sick.

No, you weren't. You were sick. I was run down. I was coughing.

I was saving you the germs. You were run down because you were hungover off partying in Auburn all weekend with Penn State winning. And then you got a little sensitive that the Indianapolis Colts stink.

That's what it was. I was here. If I was sensitive about the Colts, I wouldn't have showed up on Monday. I would have called out sick then. I showed up on Monday. You had to show face and then you went away for two days.

You weren't going to bring up the Colts again. You were fine. You were fine.

Do your podcast on Wednesday. I had to suck it up. Oh yeah, please. I played hurt.

You weren't sick. Alright, real quickly. If this wide receiver could win a Super Bowl this year, yes or no, I'll give you my answers.

Go ahead. Justin Jefferson. No. Kirk Cousins is quarterback.

I'll make the playoffs. Stivon Diggs. Yes. Tyreke Hill. No. They could make the playoffs. They could not win a Super Bowl this year. Miami. Devante Adams.

No. The Raiders are 0-2. Dezka, you were high on them this year. I thought they'd make the playoffs. That's not good. I didn't say they were going to win the AFC West.

I'm just asking. Third team in the AFC West. Good receivers. Can they win a Super Bowl? How about Deebo Samuel? No, not this year.

Jamar Chase. They were close last year. No offensive line, but that offensive line is eventually going to catch up. No.

Two more. How about De'Andre Hopkins, obviously post suspension. No, I don't believe in Kyler Murray winning a Super Bowl this year. And how about Keenan Allen? Yes. I'm not telling you the charge is going to win a Super Bowl, but yes. I do think he can. But let's see if they could finally finish those games. Isn't that wild? Talk about all these Super Bowl contenders.

I think they only said two right there. Yes, a wide receivers. Diggs could definitely win a Super Bowl this year. Kansas City, you don't have a number one great wide receiver. Kelsey's probably is their best pass catcher. In the north, the Ravens don't have a number one wide receiver.

Kind of wild when you think about it that way. This is Zach Gelb show on CBS Sports Radio. Take a time out. Come on back right after these short messages. Mike Evans. That's one.

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