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That's the one that tugs at me a bit. Earlier on the show, actor Jason Schwartzman, lead voice of the NBA on ESPN. Mike Breen coming up, writer and director Kevin Smith. And now it's Rich Eisen. Hour number three of The Rich Eisen Show is on the air. Fun stuff already over the last two hours. First two hours, which you can catch up on by rewatching us on the Roku channel or our YouTube channel is always out there as a nice backstop. YouTube dot com slash Rich Eisen Show, closing in on three nine hundred forty thousand followers, subscribers to our channel there.
However you want to term it. Fun stuff as well on our podcast version of the show. All three hours. No contest wrestling is recording as soon as we're done here. Yes, sir.
Yes, sir. Does that mean O'Shea is going to be joining us at the end of the third hour or just it's at his pleasure? Last night, he said he wants to come in early.
I think he had something to say to Brockman. OK, that's great. Oh, awesome. And that'll be fun.
So stay tuned for that. Is it fake Dodger fan O'Shea Jackson? I'm like crowing about his team. Listen, how dare you call O'Shea Jackson Jr. a fake Dodger fan when Mike Del Tufo sitting to your left.
Exactly. I mean, no, Mike, that was a shot at you. I know exactly where you're coming. He gave Del Tufo the blessing. I got the blessing. I could be dual fandom.
But let me ask you a question prior to this program. Was it yours truly? Or was it that got to your left lamenting how difficult it was to lose 18 to two to the Dodgers on Saturday? It was this guy.
That's correct. I did. Because I thought, OK, how are you then?
How are you a Dodger fan in calling that terrible? Actually, it worked out for you, Mike, because your team, your team won 18 to two was like 14 runs when I left. Excuse me, because I got to beat the traffic. I understand that.
But if you find that beat down. Yes. Horrible, disappointing, whatever. Wouldn't that indicate to you you are not a Dodger fan, but in fact, the Yankee fan that you have been for decades. I was like showing I needed to take a nap because I had to wake up at five o'clock in the morning the next day. I mean, you don't have to.
If you're not going to answer the questions, then I won't engage you with the question. Answer the question. I was happy on Friday night. I was happy on Saturday when I was kind of sad. Why were you? The Yankees got the OK, kicked out.
I think I have I think I have proven my point. I'm a fan. I went Friday night. I went Friday night and Sunday. And Sunday was a good day.
I'll tell you, Friday night was it started great. By the way, I did not know this. Cooper, who is to my left, told me it's the first time ever that reigning most valuable players homered in the same inning of the same game. When Judge hit a top of the first home run on Friday night and then Otani took the first pitch, he saw from Max Fried out the building in the bottom half of the first. It's the first time reigning most valuable players.
Well, I imagine because it's it was rare back in the day, there was no interleague play back in the day. So it's the first time the reigning American and National League most valuable players homered in the same inning of the same game. And let me just tell you something. You might hear it because Mike Del Tufo's colleagues are as good as he is at their jobs or better while you're sitting at home. The sound the ball makes when both of these guys connect, you just know, you know. Yeah, you know the sound of it. It's really unbelievable watching these two and when both of them stand at the plate, it's.
It's imposing, just sitting in the stands, I can't imagine what it's like on the bum. But yeah, the Dodgers took care of business in the first two games, and the Yankees got the third game last night, and that was dynamite. Now we've we've loosened them up for you guys to come in here. The Metropolitan's coming. Let's go. Let's see. Soto's hitting the ball a little bit.
Yeah, some of it was under against less than competition. It's it's mental. Just remember, man, that's it, man.
Polar Bear has been awesome. Is he over 230 yet? Oh, good.
So no question. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what did he say? What did he say? He said he's hitting his weight. He's hitting his weight?
What did I tell you about that, bro? I can do that. I'm big. Don't make me.
Big bone people are allowed to mark out big bone people. All right. So there's that.
Come over there. Right now, it would be would it be a Phillies-Tigers World Series? Is that what it would be right now? Two best teams in their respective leagues. So the Tigers are 39 and 21. That's the best record in baseball, except for the Phillies thing. No, the Mets are.
You're a little off on that. The Mets are above the Phillies. Come on, Cubs too. Mets and Cubs.
Like we never left. The Cubbies are also 37 and 22. Crow Armstrong, Harvard, Westlake's finest from Southern California. Sneaky NL MVP, right? How is he not? Certainly isn't Soto. Well, Otani might be Alonzo or Lindor, who's past Derek Jeter on the home run list this weekend.
I mean, I've never heard somebody. He was imposing his Otani. He introduced by Michael Buble. That's his walk up song.
And I'm feeling good. Buble told us that, right? That he had been tipped off that.
It's Otani's walk up song. He plays a little Buble. He tips his cap to the opposing manager and then he takes the the Yankees ace out the park. Well, you were at the games in here.
Buster Olney was like, he's the only player in Major League Baseball who says hello to the umpire before each at bat. That's the only one. Really? That's what he says. That's what Buster said. Buster has the info.
Never heard of it. He has the info. Only one who says hello to the Major League Baseball.
I can't, but I can't find that. I would do that. I would definitely say hello. I say hi to you every morning. Hey, guys, umpires are the enemy. You don't like it when we say hi to you. When I say hi to you, it's this sort of segment. So what do you mean you would say hi to the umpire? Well, when you do it, it's it's like a pitch clock violation. Oh, wow. You know, like the clock's pointing.
He's like David Ortiz. That's what I'm doing. And then I award I award myself a ball.
That's what I do. So. The Madden covers out everybody. Oh, baby.
Oh, Madden covers out. And it is, in fact, now this is big here. This is big because everybody knows this is apparently a jinx. You don't want to be this guy because the next season doesn't go well for you more often than not. We all and it's kind of like our takes around here, like if they're great, we'll bring it back. Look how we look, how great we were. And if they're bad, we memory hole it doesn't happen.
So we memory all the ones who don't get jinxed. But there's no surprise. It is, in fact, Saquon Barkley. And the cover is at hand jumping over backwards. I mean, that's the Madden 26 cover.
Now, that's no surprise, right? That it's Saquon. It's the 2000 yard rusher. It's the guy who is Mr. Fantasy Football of last season. No surprise.
Makes sense. He's and he's the guy who does video game moves on the field, including this one. Yeah.
And I'm wondering if the folks in Madden do have that. Is that if you hit a button in a certain way, does he jump backwards over somebody? I mean, they better. He should be the only one you could do that with, right? Yeah. You think?
Yeah, yeah. Now, let me ask you this question. OK. Do you see that they were kind enough to scrub the uniform logo and number off of the defensive back that Barkley did this on over the season? In the season, I do see that if you are a member of the Jacksonville Jaguars, do you go up to Jerry and Jones and say, hey, you made the Madden cover?
I put a big poster up in his locker. Well, you leave that one alone. Here's the problem. They recreated this in a studio. It's not the real photo. It's not the real play. It's there's very I know I want to say that's kind of lame. Why they should have used the real photo? Well, I mean, real play was the greatest play we've ever seen.
What do you need to recreate it with all the movie magic for? You're you're you're you're missing the opportunity here that normally you would just take out of the would you would you go up to your teammate and say you made every single day. I put the poster in his locker.
I would remind him how he got absolutely pumped in an NFL game. Right. Saquon jumped over you backwards. Jumping over someone, you know, is not new.
Everyone does it now backwards. Yeah. So I will go out on the limb and say this. This there will be no jinxes. Oh, rich eyes and be careful. Be careful. You'll tell your tempted fate.
I know you're rooting for the curse. I hope that's all I need. That's all I got, man. Why is that all you have?
Because they're too good. Yeah. You got George Pickens. We do. But this team is excellent. And the fact is, you know, Schwartzman talked about Howie.
You know, the fact that Howie and I, we were at a very pleasant exchange when he zoomed in upset me because now I think we like each other. Yes. So that makes it even worse. So, yeah, I need something. I am going to tell you that this team is so damn good. Yeah, we know how good are the oh, there will be no jinx. You don't know that rich. I'm just telling you right now. You ain't remember is too much committee stuff. Jalen Hurts lost another coordinator. You see the video of Jalen Hurts delivering the title to a girls a flag football team in the state of Pennsylvania. Jalen Hurts is the man.
He showed up. The young ladies were flipping out. The ladies love Jalen Hurts. Well, no, that's not it.
They do. It's a girl's flag football team. How dare you?
Well, girls like boys stop. It's just in. No, it was the quarterback of their team. Oh, OK.
The Super Bowl MVP taking time out of his day to make their day. Oh, that's nice, too. Yes, it is. What's the matter with you people? I'm another thing. It's eleven eleven. So I'm about to do something I have not yet done. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's go. No, I'm choosing the Philadelphia Eagles win. Hey, yes. To put my money where my mouth is. All right.
I haven't done this yet. I haven't looked at the schedule, other than the fact I know it's really tough. Oh, yeah, there will be no jinx.
I need the music. And I will tell you this. Rocky Balboa, if Sylvester Stallone is not in Philadelphia on that opening Thursday night, I will be stunned.
All right, Raku, OK? The Tulsa King will be there, the banner will be there. And I know this is a piece of steak that the league put out. They're going to set records for opening night. We're going to see a win for the Philadelphia Eagles. OK, that's one.
That's one. Sorry, TJ. Then they're going to go to the Kansas City Chiefs. They're going to go to Arrowhead Stadium. And this is going to be a Philadelphia Eagles win as well. Oh, as good as the Super Bowl type win.
Or what are we talking about? It's going to be tight. OK, tight, tight, tight. Of course it will be. What do you mean, of course it will be? Everyone said that about the Super Bowl.
But this is another year. It's both teams going to be all jacked up. OK. And I think the Philadelphia Eagles are going to win that game.
All right. And then I think they come home and they do to the Rams what they did to the Rams last year, too. I you know how I feel about the Rams.
I know I'm going three and oh there. And then they're going to Tampa Bay and saying this business of us losing down here is over, done with it. They will be done with it.
Take that pirate ship back to Orno. That will be the end of that. OK, then they're going to have the Denver Broncos in their midst. And this one is going to be another tight one. They're going to win this one, too. Oh, they're going to start five and oh. And then they're going to go to the Giants and say hello and be six.
And oh, are they going to be the last undefeated team? I don't know the answer to that question. I haven't played this the first win loss game that I've done.
And I'm doing this truly off the top of my head. I didn't even see this. All right.
All right. OK. Then they go to the Minnesota Vikings. They're going to lose this one.
Oh. They're going to lose this one. It's going to be scold chant.
It's going to be one of those things we're just going to be like, what the hell was that all about? Then they're going to come down against the Giants. They're going to take care of business there. That's going to be seven and one. Then they're going to take on the Green Bay Packers in Green Bay coming off of the bye. And that one they're going to lose. I think the Packers are going to have them there.
And then we're going to start saying, oh, what's going on here? And then the Lions are going to come into their house. They're going to win that one, too. They're going to go to Dallas.
They're going to lose that one. I think you're going to take them. Oh, yeah, I think we split.
I think you're splitting. OK, that has a great record against the Chicago the day after Thanksgiving. That's a win. So what do I have now?
I've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine and three. The Chargers are at the Chargers here. They're going to lose that one. Wow.
You know, a lot of Eagles fans at that game. I get it. Yeah, I get it. Jim's going to take that.
All right. Even though they love coming out here and winning. So they're nine and four home for the Vegas Raiders. That's a win at the commanders on a Saturday. That's a loss.
And everyone's going to start wondering what's up with them because they're now trading wins and losses right now. Right. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. And one, two, three, four, five, ten and five.
They're at the Buffalo Bills. They they lose that one two in a row and they beat the commanders. That's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven and six, eleven and six. Wow.
OK, that's me. Looking at the Vegas win total. What do you got? Eleven and six. And that's eleven and eleven's a number. So I guess. Those folks in Las Vegas and yours truly have something.
You guys are a lot of stuff. Yeah, over eleven and a half is plus one or five. NFC East winners, right? Um, it's possible they could tie with Dallas. I can see that you guys, but they make the playoffs. There's no jinx.
They're not going to go like eight, nine, seven and ten. That's the jinx. The jinx is like you're you're hurt.
The whole season's in the tank. They're not getting jinxed. I mean, they're not I don't know if they're going to be the one seed with eleven and six, that's for sure. But I think I just gave them a whole bunch of respect going through this schedule this way.
Oh, yeah. And I think they're, you know, they're intact and they're good enough that in the beginning of the season, when a lot of teams are are still trying to get up to speed. Like Dallas, they're new that new team. Well, the Chiefs, Bucks, Rams and Broncos, that's tough for me to have them go undefeated through all that.
It's kind of crazy. That's tough. Chiefs have a make good.
And I'm already I'm already lamenting. It's like a fantasy team. I draft a field goal and I'm like, wait a minute. This thing sucks.
In Arrowhead, I can't give them that. What about for Saquon personally being on? You're taking him number one in fantasy this year.
Why wouldn't you? It would be John Robinson exists. OK. OK. Saquon's even money for fifteen hundred rush yards. Saquon Barkley. If healthy, we'll do it again.
What gives you what to do the same season again. Two thousand yards again. Or come close to it. Come close.
Why wouldn't he? Wow. Whoo. Dude, he's on. Saquon Barkley is going to show there's no jinx. And he's going to go on. Listen, you know, I've been talking about him since since he started torching the Wolverines.
I know I would come in here and I would say this guy. I can't stand him, but he's amazing. Please, he's on. This is his Hall of Fame trajectory. This is where he's going to make his Hall of Fame run.
This is it. He's in his prime years. He's got a great team. He's got a coaching staff that knows what to do with him. They how he Roseman went ahead and paid him even better. He's got every reason to do what I am saying right now. It's just will the football gods let him? Will he give him the opportunity or is he going to have one of those moments like here with the Giants where all of a sudden, oh, God, damn it. I'm he's thrown his helmet down because he knows that's a high ankle.
Let's hope not. Alan Dallas, who knows a lot about that back here on the Rich Adzis show. What's up, Al? Gentlemen, 10 years ago, I called this show after I heard a ridiculous comment by my my my good friend now, Chris Brockman, talking about taking his shoes off.
So, you know, in an airplane today, I'm sitting here trying to enjoy my lunch. And even though I defend them greatly all the time, the Mike Del Tufo rooting for the Dodgers and the Yankees has got to be his top stat. There is no way a Yankee fan who grew up the way Mike did should ever root for the Dodgers. Correct. Ever, ever. Correct.
Ever. Correct. It's like me rooting for the Islanders. It's like me rooting for the Cowboys. Correct.
Rich rooting for the Dolphins. That's correct. Never should happen. It's an it's a it's a it's atrocious and an atrocity. Yes, sir. Correct.
Correct. Correct use of atrocity. You know, in sports world, you know, this is an atrocity. It's just it's over the top, right? It goes over the top.
This is exactly my age. You will speak later in the show. No, there's no Shonda Shonda just a great. And we're not talking about rhymes.
No, I'm bi coastal. That is well done with using. Oh, God, it is out. Don't even bother, man. Better than this. Let me tell you something as a Yankee fan sitting in this stadium.
All right. After what happened last October in that stadium that I witnessed of Freddie Freeman taking Nestor Cortez out and last night. Last night in front of the whole country. Aaron Boone did what he should have done on that night in game one with Freddie Freeman at home plate late in the game. He goes to the pen and he brings out Tim Hill.
What does Tim Hill do? He struck him out. And I look at my son, I look at Coop.
Coop looks at me. We're like, that should have happened last October. But no, let's bring in Nestor Cortez, who hasn't pitched in a month and isn't a reliever. And let's leave our lefty specialist who does this for a living for a living to the point where he's called a specialist. This is a moment for the specialist.
And instead, a nightmare happens. And it's the guy who does this whole thing with his dancing. And they all that's all they do. It's like, great, you got to double.
You got to double. And let me look at my guys and I'll do this dance and whatever. And I know it's what Freddie Freeman did at a wedding. You know, like they're all they're all they're all having fun with each other. I get it. But at this point in time, it's obnoxious. It's obnoxious.
And yes, part of that is because we can't stop it. I get it. No, I know it. I know it. You got to use the Yankee fan to do that. Now put a Dodger fan hat out just because Vellie pops it on his head when he's off camera. Thanks, Jason.
Don't feed the animals, Jay. Well, I just I miss that. Yeah, that's that's great. Now, Richard, can I can I just can I say something positive, please? You know, like I said, I've been calling you to the show for 10 years. I've met you several times. Thank you.
On the staff in person. You've you've also met my family. And, you know, I just wanted to give a shout out, if you don't mind. My daughter, Maddy, graduated high school.
Richard, if you could believe that. Hey, Maddy, we got south and we have a great picture of you at the Dallas at the Dallas event where you were with my my daughter and my wife. And my daughter will be will take it.
He's taking her talents to the University of Arkansas. So excellent. Yeah, good job, Al. Thanks for the call out. Congratulations. Mazel tov.
Thanks, buddy. We take that hat off. I can't have it.
It's also just a very nice hat back. Yes, it's an atrocity. It's embarrassing. You should feel embarrassed. You should be embarrassed.
Should be totally embarrassed. We're back. Jay, thank you for that. I can't believe you're just don't encourage this behavior.
Yeah, I'm having props on a car. Just behavior. He accepted me. He accepted me. O'Shea and Jason accepted me. I can be fans of great. Well, I communicate you may not be fans of both. Honestly, it's just a party.
It was five to Max Fried had the lead and then all of a sudden it fell apart and everybody's hitting extra base hit extra basic this whole business. Oh, and some of them even wind up and go in front of everybody. And it's just annoying. It's obnoxious. And I can't stand it.
And and it's one of those things. Then stop it. I get it. I understand it.
I don't know. This is what it's irrational. I get it. But to have this guy then say that you're fine with it. Yeah, no, you're not fine with it. That's the problem. No. You're either with it or against it.
You can't be doing both. You need to sign get the certificate. You just said, oh, no, we have to sign it up. My agent told me not O'Shea Jackson. You told me not to sign anything.
He is my agent over Cleveland, TJ Jefferson, Corey in Iowa. And here it is. It's over.
It's the bandwagon fan transfer. Not that sign it done. No, no, not it. And also, you know, from saying, now I got to turn my back on you. No, I there's wording in that that I just don't agree.
I could be cursing language language in that. So stupid. It would get you could get any dumber.
No, I mean, you're talking about me, Rich. It can't get any tougher. Last night was awesome. I mean, last night was great. But, you know, again, I do that in a series. It's it's it's got it got a little too close for comfort. And then the guy that the guy that the Yankees acquired for Nestor Cortez had an actual great ending.
And Devin Williams, when he was coming in there, I'm like, if he's got a can of gas in his hand, I'm going to lose my mind. So Kevin Smith is, I believe, stuck in traffic. Oh, no, no. Oh, she's here. Yes, she Jackson Jr. is here.
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The O'Reilly City. All right. Well, I literally he sat down in the chair. I mean, I want to I want to show everybody here.
He sat down in the chair. Did I make eye contact with you at all? Until until like six seconds.
I made eye contact with him and then and then I just, you know, shot the dark. Hostile work and I encourage you. I encourage you to take it up with H.R. Every Monday. Listen, as soon as they give me my company badge and parking company badge.
Oh, I'm calling for Del Tufo. You're a survivor. See, I love this guy.
You're a survivor. That's exactly what they want me to sign that trash document. Yeah, without having legal representation, by the way.
Yeah, by the way, that's where I mean to sign it. I wasn't going to do this. I got to tell you, I got to tell you, I got to tell you, I cannot stand going to Dodger Stadium and seeing this, this business, this whole thing there and all of that stuff. And then last night, when not even not even like your dad's like, let's make some noise, like not even that worked. It was great. The the the weak ass attempts at the wave ended right around section 15, 17. You didn't even make didn't even make it past them. The bases just it was dead, dead. It was awesome.
I can give you great. I can give you 18 reasons why that that was that way. OK, you know, 18 to two. Oh, let's let you get one. But that's baseball, man. 18 runs one night.
Then you form a teammate who could barely break a plane of glass with his pitches, beat you the next night. Listen, your former teammate, you want to ring with him. You know what I mean? Yeah, well, it's like we got to let you get that one. Don't you feel good? Don't you feel good coming in on Monday? All right.
Eighteen to two. It's like I thought I was watching football for a little bit. That was a rant. Oh, man. This guy left. It was a Rams game score. Right.
Everybody gets home. I almost went down there. This guy, Tommy Edmond, Tommy Edmond, spells his last name weird, but Tommy Edmond. Yeah. It is a great place to see a ballgame. It is.
It really is. Let me ask you a question. Let me give you an answer.
Let me start with this way. If you had a friend. Oh, OK. If you had a friend that was a diehard Knicks fan his entire life. Oh, OK. And you were actually let's let's reverse it. Let's reverse it.
My pardon me. Let's start with if you had a diehard fellow Laker fan your entire life. You've known this person for a long time, like two decades. And you you shared times talking about the great moments of of Lakerdom and then the the crushing blows of Lakerdom. Right. You share these moments together with that person.
And then they automatically turn around and say to you, you know what? I'm a Celtic fan. I'm a Celtic fan. And they do that just after just after the Celtics win it all. Would you accept this person as a Laker fan? Are we really all Celtics?
Excuse me. This is a hypothetical for the most diehard Laker fan. I know that's you. Yeah.
OK. If you knew somebody who was a fellow Laker fan for two decades, it was you was shared all this stuff. And they turn around the year after the Celtics win it all and go, you know what? I don't mind the Celtics. OK, say to that person, you welcome them back to the Lakers. Number one, I feel you. And I would definitely have some discourse against them coming back.
But I also recognize that this is a trap set against my client, Michael Del Tufo, which once again adds to our claim of a hostile work environment. No, no, no. Hypothetical, your honor.
Throw it out. Excuse me. Excuse me.
Excuse me. The only reason why this isn't in Apples for Apples is Mike's not from Los Angeles. Mike's from here more than I've lived in New Jersey at this point. You, sir, have spent your entire time with me. Yeah, that I've known you. Yeah, we bonded over Yankee this. Yeah, that you never once breathed like, you know what?
I love Matt Kemp. I thought, you know, I'm not I'm not lost. Did you look at me and go, you know what? These Andre Ethier times are a little bit dry, but we're going to come back to the you know, I mean, we're going to do this thing. We're going to do this thing. You know what? Jim, Tracy's not really the manager.
I think he can. I was a big one. A bunch of crap. I was a big Fernando Valenzuela fan.
I like that guy. Let's see everybody like, you know, what are you talking about? You have to recognize as the captain of this ship that trauma is a real thing in today's climate. And I remember I'm trying to remember what happened in 2020 when I had to call in my man T.J. was ready to throw the Clippers into the ocean. But he is back and he's strong right now. He's going through trauma, which might be from the worst inning in Yankees history.
The fifth inning of last year's World Series. Let him breathe. Let him grieve. And you cannot tell people how to handle grief. I got your back, Mike. Exactly. See that my word. What an outrage.
Richard Eisen. Who's on your pod? Oh, we're going to we're going to do a recap of wrestling. We got a big PLE, as they call it, a premium live event. This money in the bank is going to be in Los Angeles, along with Worlds Collide with NXT and AAA. So we have a lot of things to talk about, a lot of predictions.
And you're going to get a lot of T.J. and a lot of O'Shea Jackson Jr. And that's what you need every month. No contest wrestling, everybody. Thank you. Blessings, blessings, Mike.
OK, thank you. I'm glad that we got you out here now because Kevin Smith's about to finish up our show. Fantastic. Ladies and gentlemen, O'Shea Jackson Jr. Spinning for Mike Del Tufo with a bunch of bull crap I can't even keep up with. Yeah, man.
Big three, June 14th. Oh, my God. What a crap tornado that was. O'Shea, the whole tornado. Kevin Smith is coming out here.
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You can't shake Kevin Smith ever since he infected the culture 31 years ago. How are you? I was looking forward to this. Thank you.
I came on. What was the last thing I was here for? Rob wouldn't know.
Probably not even fourth or third movie. Go even further back. It was a long time ago. But you pop up in my algorithm quite often. I'll take it. And it's always somebody sitting here that every time, with all due respect, I'm like, he's pulling good guests. I appreciate that, man. So at this point, when he was before he even finished saying your name, I was like, oh, I'm in. I love it. Thank you for that.
I notice I'm not on the wall out there, but well, we can fix that. And on top of it, too, before the radio audience returns, let's take a look at This is Dogma again, originally released in November of ninety nine, back in theaters on Thursday, June 5th. So wild, because Matt Damon looks like Matt Damon's daughter in this movie. So, yeah, I've been on tour with this movie for the last. Oh, month and change.
We did 20 cities across the United States. And then I just got back from Cannes where the film played in the Cannes Classic section. And so I've been watching this movie over and over again every night with packed houses. And it's been delightful because I get to see some of my favorite people at their absolute youngest. Yes. Like, oh, my God, we're all babies up there.
Like we kicked off the tour Easter Sunday for 20 in Los Angeles. And Jason Mewes, Jay to my silent, Bob was there and he was leaning on the wall next to me. And we're watching the movie in the beginning. I'm looking up at a baby faced cherubic Jason Mewes, who's stealing the show from like literally everybody, including better man, including Alan Rickman. And so he's to my right. And I want to go tell him and I go from looking at the the baby face, Jay, up on the screen to the withered crypt keeper to my right.
The cronies become we're all so damn old. What's crazy about that clip, too, is like it ends the girl in the elevator spits. That's my high school girlfriend, Kim Larkin.
Dude, I mean, it's only ever spitted in the movie. And I was also Dan of the Dan family and a cheese head behind you right there. And also Brian Quinn from Impractical Jokers in the background. It's awesome. Never mind Ben and Matt in the foreground.
Brian Quinn. I just love this whole, you know, reunion with a movie in a way by showing it again. I've got Kevin Smith here. Radio audiences just returned.
We saw a clip of Dogma originally in theaters in 1999, 25th anniversary of the classic starts to return to theaters near you this very week on June the 5th. And Kevin Smith is here. You mentioned just seeing I mean, you're seeing Chris Rock back in the day. You're seeing the whole cast from back of Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. And then you see two who have since, you know, passed on and Alan Rickman and George Carlin. Yeah, we got lucky.
We've got two legendary performances by two icons, you know, one in the world of comedy and the other in the world of acting or performance. Alan, we got by accident. I didn't even I never would have pursued Alan because I loved Alan Rickman as an actor. And the idea of putting him in a Kevin Smith movie is just like, you know, I liked him too much for that.
But he reached out to us. My exec at the time, John Gordon, who is at Miramax, called up and he goes, you'll never believe who just came in for a meeting. I said, who? He goes, Alan Rickman. I said Hans Gruber was in the building.
Did he blow it up? And he goes, no, we're trying to get him to be in this new Merchant Ivory movie. I said, what do you say? He didn't want to talk about that. He just wanted to talk about whoever made Chasing Amy.
I was like, I made Chasing Amy. He was like, he's a huge fan, dude. We should send him a script. So we sent him the script for Dogma and said, would you play the voice of God? Fastest yes I ever got from an actor in my life shy of Jason Mewes, who says yes before I finished the title. Alan Rickman received the script from FedEx or via FedEx or whatever, DHL or International Service in London less than two hours after he got the script. He called me and was like, I'm in.
So what an amazing performance from an absolute icon. And on my Instagram right now, today I put up, we found his deal memo. I've got my own movie theaters, Mod Castle Cinemas. So a couple of weeks ago, we did our Dogma screenings while I was on tour. And we went digging through the archives to find like cool Dogma stuff. And we found the deal memos that we sent to like Alan to Ben and Matt. And it's like, you know, dear Patrick Whitesell, we're going to offer your client Alan Rickman, the part of Metatron. We're offering scale plus 10, which is like the movie minimum wage. Yeah, right.
Like it's it's so low. And he did it. He gave us that amazing performance for movie minimum wage. Carlin I pursued because Carlin was a, you know, family heirloom. Carlin was a gift to me from my father when I was nine years old. When he gave me a class clown and said, do not let your mother hear you listening to this. So, you know, he I grew up with Carlin and my father loved Carlin.
I love my father. So there's a damn good chance I was going to love George Carlin. And I did.
And one day I made a movie and then I got to make another movie in the third movie because of the third movie that let me make the fourth. And we got this character in it in Dogma, Cardinal Glick. So I was like, we have to get George Carlin to play a car, play a car. Like a well-known atheist. Yeah, I mean, let's say I like to think of George as a lapsed Catholic. Okay. You know, we want to put him in the atheist category.
That's fine. But he was probably the world's most famous lapsed Catholic, as I like to think. I will accept that. So we reached out to his manager, Jerry, because we were like, let's find out, man. We'll make we'll make him an offer to be in a movie.
Like he doesn't act nearly enough. So you say, hey, man, this is Kevin Smith, Scott Mojo is my producer. I said, we made Clerks. And Jerry's like, I don't know what that is. And I was like, all right, then you ain't gonna know the second movie is Mallrats. He was never heard of it. I was like, well, we made a movie recently.
It's getting good press, Chasing Amy. He's like, nope, never heard of that. Oh, boy. And I was like, well, we co-executive produced Good Will Hunting. He goes, Ben and Matt, I know those guys.
And I was like, okay, well, we're making the new Ben and Matt movie, man. We want George to be in it. And he goes, George, you want George to be a comic in your movie? I said, no, I want him to act. I got a role for him. He goes, what's the role? I said, he played Catholic Cardinal. He goes, oh, George will love that. But he cursed quite a bit, which I guess we can't. So he set up a meeting where I got to meet George. And it's a very touching story I've told many, many times. But he goes, look, I love your script because it messes with the church. I have to always edit. I take out the bad words.
It messes with the church. He's going, but we got a problem. And my wife just passed away and his wife had passed away within the last like week, two weeks of this meeting. I said, I know I'm real sorry. He goes, me too, man. She was a cool lady.
I'm going to miss her. He goes, because of that, I'm not ready to take off my wedding band just yet. And I know I'd have to as a Catholic Cardinal.
So we find ourselves in an impasse. But I had an idea last night. If you let me put a band aid around my wedding band in the movie, I can wear my wedding band in real life and still be in the movie, play the Catholic Cardinal. You know, what do you think? I was like, I think I wish you were my father, man.
That's the most beautiful thing I ever heard. You can wear as many bandaids as you want. So he was, most people don't know the thing about George. He wanted to act more than anything else. Kind of backed into being one of the greatest comedians of all time.
That wasn't his aim. He wanted to be Danny Kaye because his mom was a big Danny Kaye fan and he wanted to, you know, make his mom happy and stuff. So he wanted to act. And that was the one thing I could give him, even though they were Kevin Smith movies, like he got to act. And he dropped like a performance in this movie that I had to keep pushing. I said, just be more George Carlin. And he wanted to like truly inhabit the character. He was a method actor. And I was just like, I know, but this part only works if you're George Carlin. Just do it in George Carlin's voice. And so every movie we ever did in Jay and Silent Bob Shake Back, he plays a hitchhiker who who offers road comfort to a truck driver. Like that's it, man.
It's like, you don't got to be Daniel Day Lewis to get into the inner life of the character. It's a one note joke. Right. And he came up to me on set and he goes, Kevin, I have a question for you as the author of this piece. And I was like, yeah. And he goes, I'm talking about the unwritten Book of the Road. Do I believe that?
My character believe in that or am I messing with you two guys? And I was like, George, you've already given the script more thought than I ever did when I wrote it. I was like, so, but if I had to pick a side of the fence, I always assumed your character believed in what he was saying. He goes, that's what I thought. That's what I thought.
That's the intention I'm going to play. And I was like, George, I think it's adorable that you're giving it this much thought. But like, you could phone this one in, man. You're just the hitchhiker who gives road comfort to the trucker. And he goes, Kevin, you don't know anything about the subtle art of performance, do you? And I said, no, enlighten me. And he goes, I'm an actor, which means it's my job to tell the lie that tells the truth. In order to do that, I need as much emotional honesty and data as possible. I need to hold up or suspend the window of disbelief so your audience can crawl into your magical world. So I don't ask you these questions to be an unctuous actor who demands attention. I simply need to know how deeply you want me to throat this guy. And I was like, I don't know this much. He goes, that's what I thought.
That's the intention I'm going to play. He was absolutely wonderful. Yeah. What a story, man. What you could share with your mom. It was so cleanly, you know, well done. Thank you, Kevin.
My mom will be like, why can't you do that every time? Is it is it true? You were looking at Sam Jackson for the role that went to Chris Rock and you met Chris Rock.
That's you know, what's crazy. I've been doing interviews and I've been doing Q and A's after like the two screenings the night we had on the road. Nobody's brought that up.
People brought up like deep cut stuff, but I forgot. Yeah, we wanted Sam Jackson for the Chris Rock role and Chris Rock lobbied to get the role. Chris Rock was like, I know you want Sam Jackson because we were coming off of Pulp Fiction at that point.
Yeah, like Pulp Fiction only happened a few years ago and we were making the movie at Miramax same place. But Chris loved the script, man. And I loved Chris. I loved him when he was on SNL as Nat X and stuff. And in I'm going to get you suck it, let alone before he had dropped the album role with the new. And he was becoming huge.
He was becoming the Chris Rock that the culture knows today. So we were lucky to get him in that moment in time and he had any interest in the script whatsoever. But he checked in and checked in and kept going like, I want this part.
I want this part. He was a big fan of Chasing Amy is what he had said. He said, I'm going to do this movie because when you write the next Chasing Amy, I want the Ben Affleck part.
And wisely, he never waited for me to do that. He made a movie, wrote and directed years ago called Top Five, which is like his version of Chasing Amy, which is an excellent, excellent film. It's worth watching and stuff. So yeah, man, we had a, as the kids say today, a fire cast, all of which people are like still working today. I miss Linda Fiorentino. Linda Fiorentino was our lead and I should play Bethany. And she was coming off of, at that moment in time, Men in Black. At the end of the movie, she's standing next to Will Smith and she's like the next Men in Black. But I was a massive fan of Gotcha back in the 80s when I was a kid, as well as Vision Quest.
And so she was coming off of Last Seduction. Remember that movie? Oh, with Pete Berg. Young Pete Berg, man, before he was a director himself. And of course, what's his name? The president from Independence Day. Bill Pullman.
Bill Pullman, who's like in on the, on the hustle. A fantastic John Dahl picture that she should have been nominated for an Academy Award because she would have won. But if you remember Showtime aired it once at like midnight before it ever hit theaters and that disqualified it from Oscar contention.
So we were lucky to get Linda, man. I was a huge Last Seduction fan. Anybody who sees it is. And she, I watch her performance like every night on tour and I appreciate it in ways I never did as a kid. It's so damn subtle and you need that.
Everyone else is larger than life because they're playing characters from heaven and hell and dead people. And she's the audience's way in. She's the Marilyn in this Munsters bunch. So as I've been watching it for the last month, I'm like, God, she really, she really honored our film with this performance. She's amazing. Psalm Hayek is amazing in the movie. It's crazy. It's an embarrassment of riches. Ben and Matt, of course.
And then Jason Mewes, who literally steals the show from everybody else. And Dogma again, back in theaters June 5th. We've got a hard out on our radio TV show to use the phrase in about three minutes. So erotically charged. I know that.
I understand that. They're going to drop us off the radio and the television. Is that sex talk as well? It sounded filthy too.
No wonder they're getting rid of it. In the two minutes I have, when did you meet Matt and Ben? I know that's a long story. I met Ben for a Mallrats audition. I had read about him in the trades because him and Matt had just sold Good Will Hunting to Castle Rock. So, you know, two actors sell a script for 800 grand.
I was like, good Lord, that's almost a million bucks. So he was coming in that day. I'll never forget Jim Jackson was our producer on the movie.
Late grade Jim Jackson since passed. He went on to make like the Mummy movies and stuff like that. He produced Days of Confused. He goes, Ben Affleck's coming in today. I was like, oh, that's O'Banion from Days of Confused. He goes, yeah, but he's got potty mouth. We put him in Days of Confused and the F count went up on that movie by 800 percent. So he's going, I don't want him in this movie.
You've got enough F's in this movie and stuff. And so Ben comes in and he sits down and I was like, hey man, what are you doing here? I heard you just sold the script.
I read you guys made 800 grand. He's like, how'd you know that? I was like, it's in the trades. He's like, you read the trades? I was like, yeah, it's part of our business. He goes, yeah, I made 800 grand.
I said, then what are you doing here? We're paying scale in this movie. And he goes, I thought Clerks was Pimp. And I was like, I love this guy. So we cast him as a bully in Mallrats.
Kind of like typecast him based on Days of Confused. But after that flick, working on him, working on Mallrats with him, that's where I got to know him, fell in love with him and stuff. So when I wrote Chasing Amy, I wrote him the male lead. And I remember I called him like when I was halfway through the script because I was like, I didn't even tell this guy he might not want it. So I was like, yo, I was like, I just I'm writing my next flick for you to play the male lead.
And there's dead silence. And he goes, finally. And I gave him the first half of the Chasing Amy script.
And he had to get on a train to go to Boston and stuff. And he's like, this ain't long enough to get me to like Connecticut. I said, oh, well, here's the script for this movie I wrote called Dogma. That'll get you all the way home. So when he called me when he got back to Boston, I said, what do you think of Chasing Amy? He goes, God falls in love with a lesbian. Real nice. But this Dogma movie, man, I got to be in this one day.
And he eventually was. Look at that. We hit the post.
That's like also the bomb and phantoms, yo. Thank you. Look at that deep cuts right there, man. 24 years old this year. That movie and Dogma returns to movie theaters for its 25th anniversary Thursday, June 5th. You can just go see it in the movie theater for like 10 bucks. Even less.
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