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April 29, 2026 12:04 am

Pastor Ernie Sanders discusses the importance of parental rights and the impact of Issue One on Ohio's judicial system, while Judge David Engler shares his concerns about the lack of parental involvement in medical decisions for minors. Heather Hill, a candidate for governor, talks about her campaign and the challenges she's facing, including attempts to silence her voice and destroy her campaign.

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I am Pastor Ernie Sanders, the voice of the Christian Resistance. Stay tuned. My radio broadcast, What's Right, What's Left is coming up right now. Coming to you live from Independence, Ohio. Changed our lives for the better in many different ways.

Heard around the world every Monday through Friday. Castle Sanders is always years ahead of the rest of the media, telling you exactly what they're covering up. This is What's Right, What's Left? I tune in every chance I get to hear exactly what's going on with the voice of the Christian resistance. Unabashedly cutting through the rhetoric by exposing the hard topics facing our society and world.

A lot of the other news medias don't pick up the news items like he does. And bringing to light the enemies of freedom who are out to steal your rights, your children, and enslaving you. You really get the truth out. I can tune into your show and hear the unvarnished truth. Thank you.

This is what's right. What's left with Pastor Ernie Sanders?

Alrighty, alright. Are you there, Judge? I I can't get mine yet.

Alrighty, well, folks, uh it's gonna be a good program tonight, I can tell you, because already The devil's in the details in the uh and we're waiting to get Judge David Engler on here, so here's how we're starting all right. With these Brand new phone system too. Anyhow. The title of the message was I'll never, never ever leave you. And so We're gonna start in uh where we left off, but One verse That uh is very prominent through this is in 1 John chapter 2, verse 19.

They went out from among us, but they were not of us, for if they had been with us, they would not have doubt they would no doubt have continued with us, but they went out that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us so That has several applications and we're going through there. Uh many f applications For throughout the Bible and the This is going to be one of them here in our study tonight. and then also in Hebrews, but it has applications for today. which is happening to many churches to day. And which happened to us, the doers of the word, Baptist Church, and many others.

And we're going to pick it up where we left off, and that's in Matthew chapter Uh twelve. And here Uh we pick it up in verse. fourteen.

Well, actually verse thirteen. Then said he unto them, Stretch out thy hand. And he stretched it forth and he restored the like the other.

Well here was a man that had leprosy. Are you there, Judge? Yes, I am, Patrick. It's going to be a good program tonight because the devil's already in the details. Oh.

Already he's he we have a brand new phone system, so Anyhow Uh I was just saying the title of the message was I'll never, never leave you. And We're we uh we're picking it up where we left off. And Here we're looking at uh several different applications of Scripture. Where they came out from us, but they were never part of us. Had they been of us, they would have stayed with us.

Uh second uh But 1 John chapter 2, verse 19. And I was just starting here tonight looking at. And we're going to pick it up with the the Pharisees. But the Pharisees were their judicial in that day, and Then the Pharisees went out and held a council against him, that he might destroy him. But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence, and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all.

and charged them that they should not make him known. that he might be fulfilled which was spoken. By Isaiah the prophet saying, Behold my servant whom I have chosen, my beloved in whom my soul is well pleased, I will put my spirit upon him. And he shall judge And he shall judgement shall show judgment to the Gentiles. He shall not strive nor cry, neither shall any man hear his voice.

in the streets. and a bruised reed should not break. and the smoking flax shall not quench. till he send forth judgment, Unto victory. And in his name shall And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.

Now, Judge, you're running again for The of eleventh conc uh district app appellate court district. And I believe you're running f. Um And so I can tell you this right now, you've got you've got a whole lot of support. uh out here. Everywhere I go Uh, people are talking about that s you know, They got your vote here in this area out here.

And one of the reasons is Uh because of issue one. uh which was uh passed in twenty three. And so We we're going to get to that here in a few minutes. Let me Pick it up where we left off here in verse twenty two. Then He brought unto them a one possessed with the devil, blind and dumb, and he healed him insomuch as the blind and the dumb spake and saw him.

And all the people were amazed and said, Is not this the son of David?

Okay.

Now Here again One of the things That was very, very important. In those days is your heritage where he came from, and Jesus was known uh to come from the lineage of King David. And so and that's how they referred to each other often in those days. Everybody knew everybody's lineage. But when the Pharisees heard it, They said this feller doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub, the prince of the devils.

No, Be Beelzebub means the Prince of the Flies. And it's a reference to Satan. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation. and every city or every house divided against itself shall not stand while What brought the emphasis for me for this map passage today was. In the past week we had several people I come to me to remind me of what had happened a few years ago back about Uh Three or four years ago We had some people in the church.

That uh and one of the fellows especially that Um Okay. Who was there and he was great. He was a had a very s big servant's heart, did a was doing a great work. Uh I mean, it really really helped me out and But there was just something there. Did you ever get a.

Uh and opinions people were being kind of just too nice. Or too helpful, in other words. That there might be Yeah, there there might be something else going on.

Well anyhow A group of people all started at our church about the same time, and they were there for several years, a bunch of them. And then one day this man came to me And he told me, Pastor, he said, I've loved this church. He says, the best church I've ever been in, ever. And um I appreciate uh your tutelage. The way that you've, you know, what I've learned a lot here.

I've learned a lot and given me the opportunity. that you've given me here in this church. But he said But you know but I feel that The ward is telling me it's time for me to move on again. And I said, well, if you know that you're hearing from the Lord, then that's what you have to do, but you better be sure of who you're hearing from. But anyhow, I said all that to say this um This individual left, but Both When he loved Of him and some others there were several that went with him, They started a phone campaign calling other people in the church.

asking them to leave the church with them, to leave and go to a new church that had started. And um Of course there's people right away called me and told me, Did you know? That uh Well, we they're calling around and they're and th this people that left together They're trying to get the rest of the church to leave.

Okay, now let me ask you a question. Who are the people that the devil goes after. Who are the people when you that, uh That have all the problems that are always under attack. Are they the ones that are stepping on the devil's toes, or are they the ones that. Art aren't doin' anything to bother him.

Not to anything bothering. Yeah, yeah, well You see, those are the ones he leaves alone. The ones that are stepping on his toes. Um You know, he's the the devil was a murderer from the beginning and a liar. And in our church, the history of our church, you know, we saved part of a major part in saving over twenty four thousand babies from abortion.

Over the years, over the fifty years, We ministered up on death row 45 years and we were up on death row ministering. The inmates, nobody else so that nobody wanted to have anything to do with We um Yeah. It's uh so much time out there, uh preaching on the streets. We were in the nursing homes helping of folks out there in the nursing home. Of course, We reached thousands and over the radio, giving the salvation message over the radio.

But we We stepped on a lot of toes. We broke a lot of stories. We exposed. A lot of corrupt Especially in a corrupt judicial where you know, when they when our people were being mistreated. When they were being mistreated, we didn't just sit back and take it.

I went down. We marched into the courtroom in a week. And we confronted these corrupt judges. We confronted them right there in their own courtrooms, okay? and expose that.

And that's what needed to be done. And Uh I had one judge. When they had brought false charges against me, what I wanted to is courtroom when the corrupt Prosecutor had brought birth saving babies. The judge stood up and said, I want you to know that this is an honor Um I am honored today to have you in this courtroom, because you what you're doing You're doing what we all should have been doing. And he said, I appreciate Pastor Sanders and he told the prosecutor Tell those people to leave him and his people alone, period.

Okay? And he he said it with no uncertain terms. And So but we did that. You see, we never backed down, Judge. We never backed down.

When there was things happening in our prison system, You remember the Lucasville riots? I expose that. Three weeks before that riot took place, We were out and we t we were telling people they're going to burn Luke. That that whole thing was caused on purpose, okay? And because of that, they tried to kill me.

They tried to kill me because of that. But we didn't back down from him, we exposed it. We went right at him, went right at him with it, okay?

So all of these different things um we never Never backed down. We always stood our ground. when the COVID thing came along and they Said that you can't you can't gather in your church. No more than 10 people. I went on the radio and I said, we're going to have regular church services.

We're not going to be wearing masks. We're not going to do any of that six foot dist you know s uh distancing or or none of the other. And we didn't. And and we set a precedent because A number of the other churches that had Uh, you know. Closed because of that.

When they saw that, you know, what we did, they they went back and they did the same thing. Anyhow so. You know, that's why This was going on, and it's not just happening to us. Today, uh across the country, they're Going within the different churches to divide and conquer. And You know what it talks about in Uh in Proverbs Chapter six He tells you very clearly, he says, And the last, these are, these are six things that the Lord.

Um Hate. yea, seven, an abomination unto him A proud look, a lying tongue Hands that shed innocent blood a heart that devises wicked imaginations, Feet that be swift running to mischief. and a false witness that speaketh lies. And he that sowest discord among the brothers, and that's exactly what's happening. out there today.

And So going back to the scripture here. Jesus said Every kingdom divided against itself is brought into desolation every city or every house divided against itself shall not stand. And if Satan shall cast out Satan, he is divided against Satan, How shall that his A kingdom stand And here's here's a verse. A judge that Most people don't don't understand at all, confuses them.

Well And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, By whom do your children cast them out. therefore they shall be your judges. And so Jesus is speaking to the Pharisees here. And when he's referring to their children, He's not referring to their adolescence, he's referring. to their disciples, to the young people remember we were referred to as The Christ referred to us as His children.

So he's referring to the disciples Of the Pharisees. And he's asking that question Uh By whom Do they cast out well, the truth was they had no power at all. to cast out devils, okay? And here He had the power to cast out the devils Okay. And he said, But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is coming to you.

Now, that's a major announcement. He was telling em that You know who I am. H why do you think, Judge, that they should have known exactly who he was? That w because he was able to cast off devils? That's right, the Bible said when the Messiah come he would heal, the blind would see.

The dumb would speak, and all the things he did he he healed all these people. He cast out devils. They saw it. They knew it, and they knew what the Scripture said. They had all of the Old Testament writings.

But he goes on. How else? Kid went in her into a strong man's house and spoil his goods except he first bind the strong man. then he would spoil his house. He that is not with me, very important verse right here.

He that is not with me is against me. and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. You know, you hear people You just say, Well, They hate absolutes. Uh, some people when get upset with you know, when we talk about the Democratic Party, That that platform is completely is complete. There's nothing in there at all.

This nine abomination. There's not one thing that the Democratic Communist Party stands for today But others will say, well There's really not a lot of difference though. Uh that's an excuse. No, there is a difference. And The Bible says those that are not with me are against me.

And uh It means exactly what it says there. And then he goes on to say this Wherefore I say unto you, all manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto my Men But the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him. But whosoever speaketh, Against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven him. neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Well, here A lot of people misunderstand these passages. Uh there's two There's the unpardonable sin, Judge, the unpardonable sin. And then there's the unforgivable sin.

Now when you study scripture You remember the five W's. Who is he talking to? What is he talking about? Why is he talking about when and where? Here is very clear, he's talking to the national leadership.

These are the Pharisees. The national leadership of the nation. He's speaking to them. And What is he talking about? He's talking about they were just saying.

that he's casting out these devils by the power of Beelzebub in other words, they were calling the Holy Ghost. Uh the Holy Spirit. Bill's about the devil. And so he's telling them That that would not be forgiven them. He's talking about the nation, it's a nationals and.

And he says it In this world, neither the world to come. In other words, That word world there is referring to age or dispensations.

So he's saying At this time the dispensation of the fifth dispensation he was in is the the dispensation of law. or the next dispensation, the church age.

So It would not be forgiven him in in the time of law or the church age.

Well, then wouldn't when would it be forgiven?

Well, It would be forgiving them. If you read into Zachur Zachariah chapter thirteen, Uh it tells you exactly when it would be forgiving them. Right there at the at the the tribu during the tribulation period. Right at the end of the tribulation period. And let me jump over there real quick.

And here's when That would be forgiven him. It says And it shall come to pass that in all the land, the LORD said, two parts therein shall be cut off, and die but he that of the third part shall be left therein, and I will bring the third part through the fire, I will refine them as silver is refined in And they will try them as gold is tried, and they shall call me on my name. I will hear them, and I will say, It is my people. And they shall say, The Lord is my God. and that's the nation of Israel.

And so that's when then during the tribulation period When Israel repents, then that sin would be forgiven him. But the unforgivable sin is simply Knowing and the unforgivable sin, we'll find that out tomorrow as we go through Hebrews. Uh that's that's tasting Of the eternal life, tasting of the Lord Jesus Christ at salvation, Calvary. and rejecting it, knowing what you're and knowingly rejecting it.

So there you go. I'm going to stop right there. Tell us wh how what's happening in Judge's world.

Well, it's it's fascinating, Pastor. I'm I've Be it. You know, I I continue to talk about the the litigation that I filed three weeks ago. Tomorrow. where in my lawsuit with the Supreme Court, Judge Engler is the plaintiff, myself.

And the respondents are Frank LaRose. The Secretary of State Who was in charge of the ballot commission that wrote the issue one language? And Dave Yost, the Attorney General of the State of Ohio.

So I've very much refined what the issue is. And have it the ability to relate it to my job as a G of a court judge. And here's the relation. My job as the juvenile court judge As is the job of every juvenile court judge. throughout the 88 counties.

is responsible for the welfare and safety of the children. of each of our counties.

Now that doesn't mean we go out and and act as police officers or children's service workers but we're the ultimate arbiters of making decisions to keep children safe. And I can tell you this. Right now in Ohio, You're Minor child. Needs your permission to have a tattoo. but does not need your permission.

to have an abortion. it's the only medical procedure Where parents are taken out of the equation. And that happened as a result of Article I, Section twenty two or Issue One. three years ago. And I pointed out in my litigation that There are children.

Mm. for certain who are being harmed throughout this entire state. Because last year in Ohio, there was six hundred minors had abortions.

Now for certain there's going to be Some child going in to have an abortion who's being brought there by their sex trafficker. Or borrow a pedophile, and what they're going to do is take them to the provider, and since parental consent is not necessary, But you still have to go to someone like me, a junior court judge, to ask for If the parents want consent or they want to see, get consent from the parents, they'd ask me the juvenile court judge.

Well, that's gone.

So the sex trafficker or the pedophile is just simply brings their victim to the provider, gets an abortion, eliminates the evidence of a crime, which in this case is the unborn child, and puts them back out on the streets. It's so dangerous to children to take parents away from their kids. It's such an important time Such as that. To when the child's making a decision as to whether they want an abortion or not. And it was written into the law.

that parental consent no longer exists. And that's a fact, that's a legal fact. And I've been raising that issue now for four weeks straight. talking about this issue. And I'm making some traction But Pastor, it's really difficult because you know, p I I I don't know why people are not more engaged where where people are not thing Look, and maybe they just don't know the issue yet.

Because I find it hard to believe. that people really think that parents shouldn't have a say. in every single important decision of their child's life. And certainly, having an abortion is a very important decision. And for your audience, it used to be for the last thirty years If a minor didn't want their parents' consent, they could come to a juvenile court judge.

We'd make a determination if that young girl was mature enough, if she understood the circumstances, maybe there was a problem with her parents, and then we'd have to pass judgment. And judges did that across Ohio all the time. But they no longer have to do that. And I'm just hoping that this message gets out and You know, I've been s Under attack, as you had predicted. From the beginning, ever since I've raised this issue with the Ohio Supreme Court.

I'm just a constant stream of negative barrage on social media. The person I'm running against, the eleventh District Court of Appeals, is attacking me, trying to damage my credibility. Um without talking about this issue. I can tell people throughout Ohio today Yeah, it's Your rights are gone as a parent. And you need to fight to get them back.

I'm taking my position and I need the help of your listeners. And more than anything, I need prayer. I absolutely need prayer. Because I've talked to people now. And they they treat abortion, Pastor Uri, Almost like a sacrament.

something that's so important, it's more important even than the job a parent has to do. It's it's I was talking to another judge today. It's all incomprehensible to me to understand. How someone could have that mindset. Uh to think like Well this The right to have an abortion It is so important.

We're going to get rid of the parental involvement. Because the bottom line, and I talked to a couple from California today. They happen to be here in Lauren, Ohio. Um And they they don't think parents should be involved. They actually said this to me.

Hey, well, if a parent doesn't know if their child's having sex and the child gets pregnant, it's up to the child whether she wants to keep that baby or not. The parents shouldn't even have anything to say about it. But and they believe it. They absolutely believe it. But I can tell you the other thing what they don't believe in is God.

None more. And it's it's shocking. You know, uh, these are people I've known for years Um And there's sort of a Hollywood type, so it was a big-time name in Hollywood. is is this person I know. They're just their minds all turned around.

And it's it's astounding to me.

Well, it's exactly if you go to Second Timothy and read chapter three. Y what you just described, you'll see ex that's described there exactly. the weight is happening. Hosea 4:6 says, My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, not because the knowledge wasn't provided, but they rejected it. And it says, All of those that hate God love death.

They hate God, they love death.

Now, if I had talked to those people, let me tell you what I would say: I would say, look. Let me tell you something. And that and this is an absolute, this is absolutely certain. If you died right now. If you died right now, you would burn in hell forever.

Now God said that. You see, God said that. And I can take 'em right to scripture and show 'em where he said that, okay. And usually it's like they're not used to being challenged and especially with absolutes. It's out there like we got, you know, too much black and white, too much this way or too much.

We want we want to get in that gray area. where we c have some kind of justification, like the the women there and In Jeremiah chapter 2, 43 where they say well You know, we're not guilty of anything because we were allowed to do it. You know, when you violate God's law, Peter says we must obey God rather than man. He made it make it very, very clear. Abortion is America's national sin.

Our sewers have run red, run red with the blood of innocent children. And I gotta tell you, Judge, um You know, God is long suffering. got his lungs, but he's not slacked. Uh and it's gonna come And uh all of those people out there, Jesus said, many are called, but few are chosen, and that's the reason why they're They're they're totally d in deceived. They've they people that would say that I would tell those people that I mean I've run into him that way before and you to see the look of fear on their face when someone boldly tells him What God has just said?

Okay.

And so Anyhow, Whatever we can do, you've got my endorsement. I can tell you that.

Well, I appreciate that. Yeah, I said earlier, you know, in the running for this 11th district court of appeals. You know, I hope I win, of course. You know, I think Just this week, um Matt Lynch, the current eleventh District Court of Appeals judge, Uh has endorsed me and supports my election to his seat. And Matt's a a great you know, believer that that life begins at at conception and is a strong Christian conservative.

on the bench. And he would like to see me continue. you know, with that thought process on this is an important job. It's a very important job. And I could tell you how important it is, Pastor Ernie, because I was speaking to someone in the Columbus.

market, uh radio market. Ohio. And there's not many voices out there saying what I'm saying and saying what you say. You're absolutely right. Makes me It I I don't know, c crazy isn't the word, but I'm like, I'm befuddled.

I'm like, why aren't you more people talking about this? And I realize like on a Columbus level, on the state level, Some of these politicians who I'm talking to, they'd rather run from it. They don't want to bring up the subject. And we're talking about parents. being separated from the decisions of their children.

And because there's a little controversy, they're afraid to take a stand because they're more concerned. with their reelection or their election than they are with what Doing right. you know, standing up for life. You know, supporting the idea that parents are fundamental, it's a fundamental right in our nation, in our state. And if I could, I'd love to tell your audience about this one quick thought.

that exists in Ohio law. It's this principle that there are certain inalienable rights. inalienable rights. That are recognized by the Ohio Constitution, but not conferred by the Ohio Constitution. In other words, The Constitution is not giving us this thing.

We are born with these rights. and even a constitutional amendment. Even a constitutional amendment cannot abridge nor destroy those rights. Amen. And that's the heart of my litigation.

You cannot destroy. You can't have a mob of people being caught up in emotion and false language. That ballot language passed three years ago was false language. Because if they had told the people, hey, by the way, parents, you no longer have a say in your child's medical decisions. And by the way, parents, we got rid of the juvenile court judge who is a stopgap protector for your children and your rights as a parent.

Now vote on it. Judge, I have to my guest uh here Is here, Heather Hill. She is running for governor. You're welcome to stay with us if you'd like, but Heather is running for governor, and she's on the line. And I've got to bring her up.

If she'd like to stay with us, you're more than welcome to stay with us. And so, right. I'm going to head off now, but I'm going to tune in and listen to the rest of it. And I wish Heather Hill well. I ran into Judge Jill Lanzinger.

She's a real warrior. She's a great person. Marcel Sturbich was a real breath of fresh air. I talked to him. And these were some people.

Wow, we have some real great leaders.

So I hope Heather Hill wish her the best and hope you can help her get her message out. And I look forward to talking to you very soon again, okay? All right. Anytime, you can call in every night if you want. Uh keep your name out there.

Alrighty, God. All right. Thanks, Judge. God bless. All right, bring up Heather.

Heather, are you there? Yes, I'm here. How are you? Oh, I'm doing okay. I'm not going to I'll add that time to the other side of the hour there, but Judge had.

To get that message out, he has got that very important message. I was listening. Thank you. Oh, yeah, yeah, that. You talked about number one, issue one.

That was right from the pit of hell, right from the pit of hell. And uh and we tried and tried and tried to warn the people. and some people I knew. I they were s they they Drank the Kool-Aid. They couldn't.

They I said, you don't understand. the the way this is written, it it what it what it means and Anyhow, they do now.

Now they're they wish they hadn't uh voted for it. But you're running for governor. Tell us why you want to be governor.

Well, I real first of all, thank you again for allowing me to be on your show and giving me a voice, Patrick Sanders. My name is Heather Hill, and I am running to be your next governor in 2026. As long as everything goes all right with this recent issue that we're having with Frank LaRose, But I'm not your typical politician. I'm a Christian wife, mother, military mom, foster parent and entrepreneur. But more importantly, I'm someone who shares your values, your struggles and your dreams for a better future.

I'm running because Ohio needs a leader who understands what it means to fight, to serve and to work hard for everyday Americans like you and me. I grew up in Appalachia where Family, faith and hard work were a way of life. And somehow we have lost that in our government.

Somehow that has been lost.

So we need Christian conservatives to get out there and run for these positions because we are never going to have true representation unless we elect people that have the same morals and values as we do. Yeah, you're absolutely right. It's gotta start though. You see, the Bible says judgment begins in the house of God and and it begins in the pulpit. It's gotta start for fifty years.

I've been telling people out there. The pastors have to find courage, the pastors have to find courage of Uh the reason we have 160 million dead babies in this country. The reason we have All the thousands of missing children Is the pastors of failed God? They were the ones who were given the charge to be bold. They were supposed to be bold.

and as lions and lead, but m many of them became effeminized Many of 'em They failed God. They they they wanted to stay comfortable instead of You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. I have reached out to churches all over the state of Ohio. And they are so afraid to even endorse Or allow Conservative Christians that are running for offices to have a voice in their church.

They always want to say, we have to keep politics out of the church, but you know, Jesus never kept politics out of the church.

Well, no, it's very important that people understand Two is truly Christian conservative, and the way that we find that guidance is through our pastors and our church, and they are failing us greatly. They are so afraid. of losing their funding. They are letting the love of money control their message. And it it's horrible.

It's absolutely horrible. You're absolutely right. Their biggest fear is offending the offering plate. Absolutely, you're right. And it's sad.

I mean, it is so sad. Because you know, that's where Christians receive our guidance. That's where we receive our strength. That's where we Receive our understanding of what is good and what is not, and for them to keep politics out of the pulpit. That's a scary thing because Our our government is the one that controls Everything, our laws, our rulings, every single aspect of our lives.

It's controlled by our government. According Our religion. And what we what we hear in the pulpit. And that's not the way it should be.

Well, it's not what you hear in my pulpit, I can tell you that. We've had one policy f Since day one and no compromise. We uh we hold to the word of God, literally to the word of God, without compromise. And that's the way it's going to be right into the end. But what you said there.

You know, from Genesis to Revelation, every prophet, every priest, Yeah. Every pr uh preacher And none assued this more than the Lord Jesus Himself, His faith and his politics were inseparable they were inse they were one of the very same. You're absolutely right. And that's the way it's supposed to be. I've heard These mega church pastors Tell their people, you should stay out of politics, it's it's a dirty game, stay out of it.

No. The Bible says we're to be the heads, we're to be doers of the word. Not hearers only Deceiving your own self. How can the folks out there help you? How could the How could they get in and In touch with you?

How could they help you? How could they get, you know, your signs or whatever they have to do to help you out?

Well, first off, my website is Fight Like Hill, H-I-L-L. Fightlikehill.com I also am the only candidate that gives out my private cell phone number. That is 740. 624 So, I think that's the only thing that we can do. I interview and travel all over the state.

During the day, in the afternoons, I do Lincoln Day dinners and any speaking events, and then I open up my phone lines until midnight every night. For regular Ohio ones to call me and let me know what they're facing. I give them thirty-minute increments. And I take the time to actually listen to what they need from me, and that's the way that our government should be. But Pastor Sanders, I have to talk about The reset.

Issue that has come up in my campaign, if it's okay for me to speak about that now. Sure. Yeah, go ahead. That's why you're here.

Well, recently I feel like the devil has infiltrated my campaign. I've been campaigning for almost two years now, and it has literally been an uphill battle. But every step of the way, the Lord has opened the doors.

so that this little girl from Appalachia, Ohio Just a regular everyday American was able to run for governor and meet all the legal requirements. to be on the ballot. I gained ballot access. But out of nowhere, I mean, absolutely out of nowhere, my lieutenant governor picked a fight. an argument where he cussed me out.

Called me the N-word. And the B word. and immediately went to an opponent and started endorsing my opponent. We gave um, the lieutenant governor a week to try to calm down. He did not.

He continued to make videos, continued to to speak out about our campaign. One of his biggest gripes, he said, was that I had called one of my opponents. an atheist. When I spoke to the opponent, I asked him directly, did he believe in God? And he said, I don't believe in that stuff.

He also referred to our Lord and Savior as the invisible man in the sky. Therefore, I called him an atheist. My other opponent is a Hindu. which is Vivikrama Swami.

So I've been very clear. I feel like it's very important for Christians to know who is a Christian and who is running as a Christian conservative. But those were some of the things that he called out.

So we gave this man a week to calm down. He did not. So we made a public post stating that we had irre irreconcilable differences and we were going to need to replace him. He told us at that time that he was going to stay on our ticket until after the primary. He went in.

and withdrew Once he figured out that If I withdrew, it will completely end her campaign.

So we believe that he was sent by an opponent or someone. to actually come into our campaign and destroy it. The man also, we found out, has an extensive criminal background of spousal abuse, of domestic violence. Um Just you know, a horrible background, but he was able to deceive us with that by giving us a wrong birth date. My, um, one of my best friends and my partner Larry Burnett, who has been my senior adviser on my campaign, almost the entire time I've been running.

He's a very trustworthy man of God. He is a Vietnam veteran, and he is the one that does a criminal background check. Of course, we're a grassroots campaign, so we don't have the funding to do a federal FBI check. But this is a subscription that Larry paid for out of his own money to keep our campaign safe. He did that background check.

but it was not successful because he had given us a wrong birth date.

Well, you know, that's it, it's interesting because that's. That has been happening, and it goes right along with the Bible scripture tonight, the verses in the. 1 John 2, verse 19, where it says, They came out from us, but they were never part of us, had they been. Part of us, they would have stayed with us, okay? And we're seeing that happening today.

Churches, many churches are being destroyed. This is all being done on purpose now. People are going in. Absolutely. You're absolutely correct.

And unfortunately, Frank LaRose has put out statements. saying that none of our votes will be counted.

So it has been it has been a legal battle because folks have been voting for us this entire time, as soon as early voting started.

So and we still have people that are voting for us. But we have never been notified. We have never received anything in writing. I have never been notified. I have never received anything in writing.

And I had my two of my advisors sitting at his office for over two hours. They never were given anything saying that we have been removed from the ballot. But Frank LaRose has taken the time to try to completely destroy my campaign by notifying all eighty eight counties And making social media posts and news posts saying that I. I will not none of uh none of my votes will be counted.

So trying to discourage people from voting for me, we did file with the Ohio Supreme Court today So we are hoping that, that decision will be made quickly and will be made fairly because I believe one hundred percent the establishment and my opponents realize that I am going to win this erase, that I am going to win this race, and that is why they are doing everything they possibly can to silence my voice. We as Christian conservatives have to get out there, and we have to fight for our voice to be heard. I think often of David and Goliath. You know, because This is something That is really a modern day fight. This is a modern day fight.

Well, you know, the thing of it is, is, you know, the people. That voted for you Uh I know in the early voting Their votes should count. I mean, their votes should count. Absolutely, they should count. And so, and that, you know, that's that's another way for them.

And this is what I always say: if the government controls our options. We don't truly have a choice. And that's exactly what they're doing. They're trying to take away the options.

So their chosen one, which is. Be the Klamathwami. who has been endorsed and paid for and bought Why the Stars family? Is infiltrates himself into the most Christian conservative state in the Union, Ohio. We have to stand up, we have to fight.

I need for people. to volunteer to donate Who Share things on social media. to do everything that they possibly can to help me because This is not about Heather Hill. This is huge. If they continue to take away our rights, We will have none.

Yeah. And people really need to understand that. A lot of times as Christians we kind of sit back and we don't want to get involved in the mess. Because it is a mess. But if we continue, they will completely take away our rights.

This will be a state that is just like California. This will be another California, and that's what Vietramaswamy wants to turn it into. Silicone Valley is what he says. Ohio will be the next Silicon Valley.

So we have to fight. We have to Fine strength. can help with this bite. Yeah, well, we we d we really don't In Ohio, we need these new plants for the for AI. Data centers, absolutely we do not.

the data centers will not only destroy our health, They will destroy our environment. They will use up our water supply. And then the water that is put back into the earth from the data centers will be contaminated. There are no testing, no studies. They literally brought those data centers in under the cover of darkness.

People didn't know what was being built. They were not given answers. Most of their commissioners And mayor? Had signed NBAs, so they couldn't even tell the people what was really happening until we found out the hard way. And now they're saying there's nothing we can do about it.

there is something we can do about it. We have to stand and we have to fight against it. Yeah, I know.

Well you have a Those those data centers should be put s way out in in the desert or someplace. And I know they need a lot of fresh water. uh to keep him going because I I I I guess every data center will have its own or supposed to have their own power plants. There But but you're right. They uh if they're gonna go up, they should go up and in places th w not where It would it could do that much damage and You're right, that here in Ohio they they they would use it a lot of A lot of water, and I'm very, very concerned about those data centers, but.

Now I have not heard that they will have their own power supply. I have heard that the citizens of Ohio will pay astronomical electric cost to power The data center. Nothing. Yeah, President Trump says he He he thinks that that they need to be required To provide their own power, their own electricity, whether that be Uh and they're and their courage and even uh you know, small nuclear power plants and so Yeah, I mean, he's saying that they should be required, but that's more than likely not going to happen. because evidently, there's some really shady events that have happened with First Energy and some things that are going on that don't look on the up and up with AEP and our electric costs.

So again, it goes back to Do we really trust our government? No, absolutely not.

Okay, Heather, you take calls from, you say from 12 to 12:30, from midnight to 12:30. Um You want to give your number out from probably about 9, 8, 9 o'clock when I get in from Lincoln Day dinners and things, up until midnight. Oh oh, up until midnight because I was gonna say Uh if you wanted to I could give up you could give that number out if people wanted to start calling you, but there'll be m you might get some but you just want calls from callers here in Ohio, right? Yes. But if anybody has any suggestions or any way that they would like to help, I mean, they're welcome to call as well.

Because, you know, since all of this has happened with Frank LaRose. And with the lieutenant governor, I have had thousands of people, very famous Ohioans, that have reached out to me, all wanting to share. With me, how they can help me get a voice, how they can make sure that my voice is heard and it is not. Wiped out because that's what they ultimately want to do: take away our ability to have a voice and to spread our message.

So, you know. Please don't hesitate. If you can help me get in touch with somebody that may be able to help. That some famous person that you know that would take on something like this, don't hesitate to reach out to me. It doesn't matter where you are as long as you're in the United States.

All right, very good.

Well Let's give that number out a couple of times and give it slowly and give it several times. folks out there give them a chance to write it down. But go ahead and give that number out. First off, my website is Fight Like Hill. H I L L dot com.

And my phone number is seven four zero 624. zero one six two. All right. Uh give that one more time. Both.

Bite like hill. H I L L FightLike Hill dot com. seven four zero Six two four Zero one. Six two. And I'll repeat it just in case I said it too fast that time.

740. six two four zero one six two. And that's Heather Hill for Ohio Governor. Again, the website is fightlikehill.com. All right, very good.

We're coming up to a break. And uh if you wanna uh you wanna go and and start taking some calls, Because uh you you've just given that number out all over the country. A lot of people are gonna be interested.

So Oh. Or if you if you want to just note, if I don't, if I can't get to you tonight. I will get back to you. I always return calls in the order they were received.

So Just be patient with me. I'll get you if you want to shoot me a text message. That sometimes works a little better.

Okay.

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