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This is What's Right, What's Left with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening, and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left? The voice of the Christian Resistance on this 12th day of September. twenty twenty five and boy we have a lot going to night and so We're going to get right into it. We have On the board.
Well, he's he's been he's been gone, but We've got a Meg. And uh Well, what can we say? Yeah. It's Derek. Say hello, Derek.
Hello, Derek. This wiped and gone, folks. Don't harm him. And here live in the studio, you have You heard the cackling, right? Caquelin Rose, Lisa Hickman.
Good evening, everyone. And we have also here with us in the studio None other than Brandy Randy. Good evening, everyone. Jesus Lord. Mm-hmm.
And then Way out yonder, way out yonder, huh? You know, in all of his Majesty, all his glory. All of his excellence. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Keep it going, keep it going.
We have none other none other than big John McTurton.
Well, I want you to know, Pesc. I live in the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Well that's good. And um We're gonna we're gonna keep it too. We fought for it and we're gonna keep it this way, aren't we? If we sure We're all right to the end, Pastor. Absolutely.
We have a whole lot to talk about tonight, but let's get into it. and we're going to start in Psalm chapter ten. And here's what we'll do. I'll have I'll have Randy Raid versus one. uh through nine and then you verse you read verse ten through Uh eighteen, okay.
Okay.
So go ahead, Rendy. Psalms ten, verse one, reads Why standest thou afar off, O Lord? Why hidest thou thou thyself in times of trouble. The wicked in his pride doth persecute the poor let them be taken in their and the devices that they have imagined. For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth The covetous whom the Lord abhorreth.
The wicked through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God. God is not in all his thoughts. His ways are always grievous. Thy judgments are far above out of his sight. As for all his enemies, he puffeth at them, He hath said in his heart, I shall not be moved.
For I shall never be. be in adversity. His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud Under his tongue is mischief and vanity. He sitteth in the lurking places of the villages. In the secret places Doth he murder the innocent.
His eyes are privily set against the poor. He lieth in wait, secretly as a lion in his den. He lieth in wait to catch the poor. He doth catch the poor when he draweth him into his net. He crouches and Humbled himself.
That's the point. May fall by his strong ones. He hath said in his heart, God has forgotten he is hidden It is is fade. he will never see it. Arise, O Lord.
O God, lift up thy hand. Forget not the humble. Wherefore Thus the wicked contempt God. He hath said in his heart, That will not require. Require it.
Hang on here. Fast earning, I I lost my. Uh verse 14, I can help you out to you. Raoul has seen it. Was that one?
for thou beholdest. Missed it. in spite to require it. With his hand, the poor committeth himself unto thee. Thou art the heavenly.
Helper of the Fatherless. Break thou the arm of the wicked, And the evil man. Seek out his wickedness, The valve fine nod The Lord is king for Heathen are perished out of his land. You got two more verses. Yeah, I see it there.
Lord, thou hast heard. Yeah. Wilt thou prepare their heart thou wilt cause thine ear to hear. to judge the fatherless And oppress that man of the earth may no more oppress. Let's go back to verse one.
Where he says, Why standest thou afar off, O Lord? Why hidest thyself in times of trouble. How does God answer that? Does God say, Am I. A god that's far off, Okay.
Mm-hmm. In other words, uh Am I a God who made the ears? Don't I hear what's going on? I made the eyes, don't I see what's happening? Um so Well we ought and feel When there's times of trouble like we've had on this on this program when when all kinds of strange and weird things happen to us.
Uh that sometimes what why is why is God allowing this, right? Yeah. Well, there's two things that come to mind to me. One is that through our suffering, though we don't like it, God still gets glory. And the second thing is that God is long-suffering.
He's not willing that any should perish. But that all should come to repentance, so that long-suffering that means that God waits a long time sometimes, He's patient for that. Latter fruit, as the Bible says.
So is he Well well, Mr. Ernie also Um it builds faith in us. Yeah, that's true.
Okay.
So then he says the wicked are in his pride. Death persecute the poor again. Mm-hmm. Let them be taken. and uh the devices that they have imagined.
So What is that uh That word pride How does that d d d describe the wicked?
Well, they think that they're superior to Yeah and uh they they may have uh power over them So the wicked in his pride doth persecute. accuse the poor.
So in other words, the the the Wicked feel that they're better than we are. Then uh yes, exactly. And so Here. He goes on to say For the wicked boastess of his hearts desire And bless us. The covetous whom the Lord abhorreth, The wicked through the pride of his countenance Will not seek after God God is not in all of his thoughts.
Um When How is God in the thoughts of the wicked? When you hear from the wicked, I mean, we've really. heard a lot from the wicked later lately uh were the school shootings when the Catholic school was shut up. Uh And kids killed And why they were praying. And so though The wicked said it's get over this foolishness of praying.
They were praying for you. Right, right, right.
So. Uh you you need to Well you need to do things. And of course the wicked's answer was to take away the guns, right?
Now Of course, that's not really I mean, we we understand the real reason the wicked want to confiscate the guns is like we've seen what's happened when that's happened in other countries. Exactly. That's why we have the freedom we have is because we've we've we wouldn't let them take our guns. Go ahead, John. Yes, Pastor Ernie, let's think this through.
How about we take the guns away from the Democrats. Uh Right? Who's assassinating? Who but the Attempted to shoot. Assassinate Trump.
Twice. Yeah. And all the violence in the in the cities. you know, these are Democrat cities. And the so who's using the guns?
No.
So I I know I'm being facetious, But let's throw it up in their face. Yeah, okay. You you want to take guns because Kids are being killed in the cities, right?
Well, who's the ones killing them? It's Democrats. They're voting Democrats, they put them in office. What is one of the recently the most anti-Christian I mean outright anti Christian, anti God, uh state in America that has come to the forefront recently. Chicago, Illinois, bro.
Chicago and Illinois, they're they're gangsters. But I'm talking about those that have gone after legally b to persecute Christians from anything from b Baking cookies, baking. Uh Colorado?
Okay, let me let me read something here. This is just in the state of Colorado. All right. This is just the state of Colorado. Columbine High School.
On april twentieth, nineteen ninety one, you remember Of that how many, thirteen people were killed and twenty one were wounded. This is just the State of Colorado. Um You had Oh. the Rano High School on february fifth, twenty twenty three, uh Westminster uh shots were fired Dur at the students during the uh uh day on the school property. No one was shot though.
Oh. Academa Academia Anna Maria Um, Mattazari School on May 24th, 2005. The shooter fired guns at a playground in Denver, injuring a teacher. And a huraid. Um Canyon School.
On september twenty seventh, two thousand six, the fifty three year old Shooter took six girls hostage at the Bailey School. Then he shot and killed one hostage before uh should in himself Deer Creek Middle School on February 23rd, 2010. Thirty two year old former student fired hunting rifles. at school bus hitting two students during dismissal. Um Aurora High School on december sixth, twenty ten.
Um, bystander who was A student was injured in a gang-related drive-by shooting during the uh dismissal I mean I'm not even halfway through. I it it goes And these are all things that happen and of course this last one was Evergreen High School. On September 10th, Two days ago A student was injured and two others. um before the shooter killed himself. Mm-hmm.
I mean, and you have this huge list. And they're all in in Colorado. And so Colorado has really taken an anti-Christ stand hesitate. Yes. We call it.
There's been real studies on this past Ernie about Colorado and what happened. And of course, the media will never cover this But once the Once Colorado recognize Uh marrow. Yeah. Yeah. And uh they they they went straight down from them, Pastor, straight down.
Yeah, uh, insurance weights went sky high you know d on driving went sky high. Uh yeah, you're right. Yeah. Well, there you go. That's why they call it dope, huh?
Uh-huh. Yeah, so yeah. Um dope by the dopes.
Okay.
Uh Uh in his mouth. I'm going to go back to something. is full of cursing.
Now listen to this. His mouth is full of cursing, And deceit. Fraud is under his tongue, and is mischief and vanity. Ooh boy, we're gonna play a clip. uh of the what they call legacy news media here.
And uh Boy, and everything's going to be right in there. I mean, unbelievable. I mean, it's like they can't tell the truth. And and the the hatred, the hatred now we we go after the left, we go after 'em in And I don't spole but we we don't espi espouse hatred We don't. We don't wish that they were all dead, right?
Right, right. Uh although I have said in precaratory prayers that those that love death so much um you know let the Lord return it back upon them, those that that want that the death, you know. Yeah. Uh they keep talking about killing Trump, killing of course the, you know. Um Here, we never know what's going to happen here anymore.
And it's Just because Oh, we're doing the right thing. And so here We go on to see. He setteth in the lurking places of the villages, and the secret places doth he Murder the innocent. His eyes are privileged set against the poor. Boy, that's absolutely right.
In fact, we're going to be playing. A clip here in a little while. They've got murder in their hearts and they really have murdered the the the whole Democratic Communist Party, don't they? And he goes on to say He lieth in waits secretly as a lion in his den. He lieth in wait to catch the poor he He doth catch the poor when he draweth him into his net, He crouches and humbles himself.
that the poor may fall by his strong ones. Mm. He has said in his heart. God has We're forgotten. He lieth his face He will never see it.
Arise, O Lord, O God. Lift up thy hand Forget not the humble Um Wherefore doth the wicked Condemn God. He hath said in his heart, Thou wilt not require it, okay? What do you think that means? Then the wicked has said in his heart that will not require it.
Uh I I mean I think that means faster there'll be no punishment for what they're doing. Mhm. Yeah, you're you're absolutely right. But they forget that what you sow, you're going to reap. Yes, absolutely.
Thou hast seen it For thou beholdest mischief, And spite to requite If thy And If with thy hand The poor committeth himself Unto thee thou art the helper of the fatherless. Uh rate though, you know, John. That's what we've been the whole pro life movement all those years, we were the helper of the fatherless, weren't we? Mm. Yes.
Absolutely. Yeah. Breaketh out the arm of the wicked. and the evil man seek out his wickedness. till thou didst find none So I would say that's an a precaratory prayer, wouldn't you say?
Yeah, oh, absolutely. No doubt about that. The Lord is king for ever and ever The heathen are perished out of his hand, So he's telling you at the end of things we're going to there's going to be justice, isn't there? A righteous justice. Lord, thou hast heard the desire of the humble.
Thou wilt prepare their heart. That will cause thine ear to hear To judge the followers. and the oppressed, let the man Of the earth may no more oppress. There you go. We're going to stop right there.
And What we're going to do tonight, we'll go ahead and go right into that clip. We're going to be. Uh listening to a clip here. about you know what has h taking place This is a horrible thing. What they are saying, those in the what they call legacy media.
One thing Is the hatred is so obvious that many of them are getting fired, not just in the media. Yeah. But in these schools, in high schools, middle schools and on college campuses, they're getting fired, okay? And no. And now that's really something when that happens.
Now the only reason probably a lot of these are fired him is because they don't want to get sued. Other than that, but that's that's an amazing thing, but that they have an NBC, ABC and I think P M M P M M S PMS NBC was the first to s uh start firing. Yeah. We're gonna go ahead And We'll get Um The fellow that time you talk about a board operator, you talk About a a a professional. I'm talking about a professional.
That's Derek. He knows when it comes to that board, he knows the board. Right. That's about it. Yeah.
He might not be the most handsome guy in the world.
Well That's because I'm the most handsome guy in the universe. Good comeback.
Okay.
Well You don't have a whole lot of competition in the studio here tonight, I guess, do you? But uh All right, let's do the clip on Um Well I need And the mega or the legacy media. Go ahead. If you're a Patriot Professor, we've got some more breaking developments in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination. Democrats and leftists across the nation are getting canceled as we speak.
They're getting fired from their jobs and they're getting canceled from their social media accounts because they all thought it would be a good idea to share with the world how gleefully excited they were that Charlie was killed. One of the most heinous developments to come out of yesterday, that the legacy media has been doing everything they can to pot everything they possibly can to hide from their dwindling audience. Is the disgusting propensity towards celebration? Of Charlie's murder by leftist lunatics across America. This is something.
It's beyond comprehension, and it goes beyond even what we saw last summer. With J-13 in Butler, Pennsylvania, when President Trump was almost assassinated. Over the last 24 hours, we have seen. an epidemic Of a particularly venomous glee. coming from the rabid lunatic left over Charlie's death.
Posting their malicious machinations online. But now Yeah. Here's the payback. Karma's a bitch, as many of them like to put on there. They're finally facing the consequences for that.
And that's because an entire army of online citizen activists are exposing each and every one of these psychopaths and their venomous postings, and they're giving these people exactly what they deserve. First and foremost. The ultra-left social media platform Blue Sky actually had to issue. A warning to their users to cut out all the mocking and ridiculing and celebrating. It was that bad.
It was so widespread on that filth of a platform. Obviously, the moderators recognized they could be looking at a lawsuit or the federal government shutting them down. We can only be so lucky.
So they clamped down on their own users, but not before that vile vitriol came to the surface for all to see. But because of so many of you, because of citizen activists, the ones who are seeing it today, are their employers. And now, as a result, a mass epidemic.
Well-deserved Firings has begun. Let's start with the ultra-repulsive MSNBC, Matthew Dowd. One of the most odious human beings on the planet, and I use that term. Um let's just say sparingly with him because He became the first major casualty when he was fired immediately after suggesting on live television that Charlie's supposed hate speech. contributed to his own assassination.
But following up with what was just said, he's been one of the most divisive especially divisive younger figures in this. Who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups? And I always go back to. Hateful thoughts. lead to Hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions.
Now, what you just heard there was the very definition of lunacy. That was a lunatic. He may look.
Sophisticated and erudite, but no, that's a lunatic. That is what lunacy sounds like coming from our cosmopolitan elite, our permanent political class. What he just did there was classic scapegoating. blaming someone else for another's wrongs. I mean, specifically it's a form of scapegoating called victim shaming.
It's shifting responsibility from the perpetrator to the victim by claiming that the victim did something to cause the violent response. And it doesn't even remotely enter what's left of his feeble maggot-infested mind. That Matthew Dowd calling Charlie hateful and bigoted and racist may have been the catalyst for such a violent response. He's so ridiculously narcissistic and self-unaware. That he doesn't even consider that possibility.
He doesn't even entertain the notion that his own rhetoric. Framing Charlie as hateful and bigoted and racist is what provokes such hatred from others.
Well, it doesn't matter anymore because he's gone. Even the radical leftists at MSNBC couldn't stomach his comments, so he's been fired. But down was just the beginning. In Idaho, a woman by the name of Anika Roots, a Meridian High School employee, was terminated after posting a video wearing her school T shirt while celebrating Charlie's death, saying, I hope he's dead and calling it a good day.
Now I want you to think about that. This is a woman who works with children. This is a woman who works Which shit well. Ha ha ha. Thanks to you, she did work with children.
She has now been Down in Tennessee, an assistant dean at Middle Tennessee State University was shown the door after posting on Facebook that she had quote zero sympathy for Charlie. University President Sidney McPhee stated her comments undermine the university's values and reputation, so she has been fired, even in liberal academia. There are apparently some lines you can't Cross. And we could go on and on and on and on. If you go on X right now.
I notice it's even on Facebook. There is literally a litany of announcements of the mass. firings All across the country, because of what activist citizens are doing, simply. Hosting the Poison. The vicious poison of these left-wing liberals for all to see, most especially their employers.
And now we're getting multiple reports that they're running scared. These cowards who so callously celebrated Charlie's killing are now deleting those celebrations lest they end up unemployed. Just one problem. The internet is forever. You see, you were one step ahead of them.
All of those machinations have already been screenshotted and downloaded. They are busted. Take tickets back, okay. There you go. That's an amazing thing, isn't it?
Yeah. Now, the response that we have, remember what we said yesterday? I told you that what was going to happen is. This is going to raise up. They they think that they've done something about Charlie.
They're already lining up. A lot of these young bright guys are lining up and and some of his friends To be the next Charlie Kirk.
Okay.
I mean. A lot of them. Here's a good example. Pick up the blood stained microphone Ben Shapiro bows to keep up canvas. appearances.
So Ben Shapira was one of the first to jump back in. Daily Wire editor Emeritus Ben Shapiro said he will continue touring on college campuses. and will not be deterred by those who try to stop conservative voices.
Well, Shapiro shut down rumors. that he wouldn't appear on college campuses following the death of Turning Point, You as a founder, Charlie Kirk. and vowed to continue fighting He further promised that the the the conservative movement would carry on Kirk's legacy.
Well, it's what we s what we said that was gonna happen. And uh it is um John, there's so much that's very strange about this whole thing. Uh and and this shooter You know, uh they liked their fifteen minutes of fame. They liked the the idea to have their name out there, their name out there, their name out there, and then. when you keep mentioning their names, uh a l a lot of the other young and dumb I mean, you have the young and dumb His father had m made it and his father was police officer, who was involved and Uh his father said that uh He went from being a conservative, this kid, From being a conservative, he started attending uh a liberal uh college, uh real communist uh hotbed uh where they really uh were into Antifa.
And And uh he said that they just he was so indoctrinated in that place. That he completely t turned into a complete different individual. Yeah. What do you think about all that, John? He had a family They had interviews.
Some Members of the family, and they said, Um, I think about Three years ago, he began to really change and like dark, you know, darkness came over him. And that was in college.
So he, I mean, this fascist stuff and all that he's talking about, I mean, that's Antifa's mantra. You know, anybody in the government, the government and all, is fascist. If you, Charlie Kirk was supporting, you know, supporting government Trump, he's a fascist. He was talking, Antifa is big in supporting transgenderism. Charlie Kirk was preaching the truth from the Bible about male and female, husband and wife.
You know, that's all that there is. There is no, you can't become a male. You're not a male one day and a female the next day.
So he Charlie Kirk stood against everything that Anthifer is against.
So he loaded up the bullet that. Shot Charlie, it says on the cartridge, he wrote. Uh fascists catch this, something like that. Fascist. Catch catch this.
Tell me, what is your definition of a fascist? My definition of a fascist is government control. Yeah. Over every Everything, especially Pastor Annie, there's very little difference between. Yeah.
A fashion. Than a communist.
So the fascist will control the industry that's needed to keep their power going, like the military and all. But they'll give um The fat. The advances will allow small businesses to Communists won't. But you can't go against the fashion.
Okay.
Mm-hmm. You can't go against the communist scope. You know, in fact, Uh uh Nazism, which is a branch of fascism. Nazi stands for Yeah. National Socialist.
Yeah. And they don't like that. when you tell them that Nazis are socialists, Uh was communists don't like that piston. And so in our lifetime the one uh country that was supposed to be uh a real fascist nation was Italy during World War Two, right? Yes, well that's really where it sprung out of.
Um with Mussolini in all fascism, that that's where it came from And I just can't give you details now. It's not clear in my mind. But the fascists That name Fashion, I think it is. That goes back to Rome. Yeah.
What is clear in your mind right now? What is?
Well, we know that the gospel of Jesus Christ, Pastor Herney, is very clear in my mind. Very good, very good. Yes. Well, you remember the infamous words of the... The saving gospel, the saving gospel of Jesus Christ.
Is very clear in my mind. There's nothing more important than that, is there? You know, Pastor, uh, real quick, uh On that video, a lot of people may not have really heard. everything that these uh people are saying but it is um It is appalling. uh how these people are uh gleeful about the death.
Of Charlie Kirk. And uh I'm saddened because Not only do we hear the world, but celebrating that, but there are a lot of comments. In uh the so-called Christian um realm where people are they have a attitude like they don't care. That's the apostate church. Yeah.
Yeah. And the World of National Council, they're not Christian at all, okay. They're Christian in name only, okay. Yeah, yeah. They're it's it's it's it's your own Congress.
Look, When they wanted to have a minute of silent prayer and a prayer for Charlington's family, the Democrats in Congress started yelling and that they refused to have a and then not just that, but in the EU, when you had the European Common when they had their big meeting. There was a big outburst because the Conservatives there wanted to to stop for a minute of prayer and the others didn't. Yeah. Okay, so. Why what is it you think that the opposition knew, okay.
And I think we all kind of knew it was pretty obvious the the writing was on the wall. That um Charlie Kirk was he was in the running Right there at the top for being a young fellow for uh twenty eight for for twenty twenty eight. As if the White House run Uh, I don't think he was gonna he would have run us the for President, but would be a good contender for Vice President. Um one of his best friends is who? Ah, J.D.
Vance. J.D. Vance. J.D. Vance was.
one of his best friends. And and tho do you don't think You don't think those two had discussed that?
Okay, and so Maturna and I were going to do that, but John got too old.
Well, I just want to read one verse real quick. It says Proverbs 24, it says, Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth. and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth, Lest the Lord see it and it displease him and he turn away his wrath from him. That's absolutely right. And we have to really pay a lot of attention to that, don't we?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
What did you say, John? I'm sorry. Yeah, um mister Ernie, you were talking about there in Congress What happened was They all agreed to a moment of silence. A minute of silence. And the uh that Congresswoman from uh Colorado.
Um Babbard. Is that her name, Babbard? Oh. Yeah, a ba bab yeah, yeah. Bobert or something.
Uh Yeah. Yeah, she she owned a restaurant. In Colorado. Was called Rifle. The town was called Rifle, Colorado.
And all the waitresses, everybody in the In the restaurant, all the workers had to carry guns. Did you know that? No, but I'm glad they did. Colorado has really gotten to be a. Yeah.
I d I didn't want to go there because of that, but I know there's some good people But they own just like in California there's really good people, but they own They've got the state house, you know, and they own the the the the house and every And the Senate and they even have the entire Supreme Court. These are all communists. Yeah. Yeah, I think Uh I'm gonna say her name is Bapper. Babbitt, yeah.
uh, you know, no way and she started to pray out loud and that's what caused that riot. You read out loud. Hmm. Uh they they they the Democrats went crazy. Good for her.
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. But uh And b and and that just amazes me because I remember when Colorado was a fairly conservative state and just you know, it just it just went totally the opposite opposite way, didn't it? I'm serious.
People have studied it and found out I mean, you could mark it down to the months. when they legalize the marijuana.
Now I don't know if they legalized other drugs, they may have. But they legalized marriage. Marijuana and the country, the state once. Straight downhill from that moment on. Yeah, it certainly did.
Already. We have some articles. Wait, Lisa's got an article. Should we let her do it? Absolutely.
Okay, this is by Bob UNRWA. Tech billionaire Elon Musk has joint critics of the political violence that is erupting in the United States, peaking this week with the assassination of conservative activist and icon Charlie Kirk. Only he's putting the blame. The left is the party of murder. His comments were in response to a discussion about teachings from the left about violence in America.
In addition to the assassination of Kirk, there have been two recent assassination attempts against President Donald Trump. There have been multiple school shootings, including prominent slaughters carried out by transgender individuals. There have been, over recent years, billions of dollars in damages from rioting in American cities by burn loot and murder. Antifa and other leftist organizations. Those comments from Sean McGuire were: quote, The left lectured us for the last decade about the dangers of violence from the right, from the assassination attempts of President Trump to Brian Thompson, the United Healthcare CEO, being murdered, now to Charlie Kirk.
The danger was actually on the left. Musk's response was chersted: The left is the party of murder. On a minor comm On a minor competitor to Musk Bluski, a multitude of comments actually celebrated the assassination. A number of people were fired from their jobs because their employers could no longer accept their hate and advocacy for violence. Musk responded to some of the calls for violence with: They're celebrating cold-blooded murder.
Shows what we're dealing with. Evil people. The Daily Mail explained, quote, Must continued blaming the radical left for Kirk's murder by claiming they're responsible for numerous politically motivated murders. Following Kirk's death, President Donald Trump addressed the nation from the Oval Office with a solemn message criticizing the demonization of political opponents. The report said, Many leaders of both parties have expressed condolences to Kirk's family, but leftist members in the U.S.
Congress and the EU Parliament both refused to even tolerate a moment of silent prayer requested for Kirk.
Okay, very good. John, there's s some things that just Don't add up with this whole thing.
Now uh when when They had the mic there. Uh Do you think that the the shooter that when they were that he could hear through the speakers Uh The questions being asked because Do you think it's just a coincidence? That when the speaker asked him about How many uh transgenders do you think were shooters? As soon as he said that. Then the shots rang out.
Do you think that was just a coincidence?
Well, Pastor Ernie, they've identified that person. that asked the question question. And I I I saw the Interview of him.
Now, it could be crocodile. Yeah. He was crying and he said I had nothing to do with this. He said, this is terrible. But they identified the guy that asked the question.
interest in it. And he has not been arrested And I don't know if there's an investigation going on, but um That's big quite a big coincidence. You know, when he brings that question. enough about the mass shooting. And then that seemed to be like the signal.
Mm-hmm. For that shooter to shoot Charlie.
Okay, now what about all of the reports coming out about? Uh LA Times and Amazon and all these others.
Now it came out On the day before Like that yeah yeah. Yeah. Now that Um That is kind of it like what is it to What what do we used to call it MS? Oh. Oh.
when when they pull this stuff back. I had the ladies One of the women on the program that they used her. What was that that operation called, the CIA operation? You remember what I'm talking about? Uh Ultra, MK Ultra.
MK Ultra, yeah. Um Here It kinda seems like there's some Mk M K Ultra Type Type of action activity going on. What do you think?
Well yeah. Yeah, Pastor. I mean Uh look how similar the shooters are, the one with Trump. He was 20 years old. Yeah.
This guy here is 22. Two years old. Um yeah. engineering students. Both of them were.
Kind of uh i and withdraw. And this, so this guy, the family. uh or people that knew him said he He changed radically, I think, three years ago. And you couldn't really talk politically. politics with him and Fascism, you know, everything.
Fascism, fascism.
So, my take. He, uh may have been a part of, um Another phone? He may have joined Antifun, And in answer for There's no doubt that they could have government agents in there, Pastor. recruiting to do stuff like this.
Okay, so would you say that I would classify Antifa as a terrorist organization, the state terrorist? Absolutely. Yeah. You know, Pastor Hay, people may. He must have been this.
first time And saying that uh Wow. That McTurning guy is one Wild conspiracy guide and CIA. But Pastor Ermie, they did it already. CIA did it. M M K Ultra.
was brought out in Congress in congressional hearings and the FBI was using mind control They were trying to develop a mind That they could completely control, right, Pastor Ernie? Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, so what I'm saying. Is it like some white?
conspiracy, they've already done it. The past.
Well North Korea North Korea had, I guess, had that program that started that. Uh and uh here Uh You know, it they seem like they picked it up. From uh from the Communist Party in Korea. Yeah. Well those yeah a number of those They came home from LSP.
Past Ernie, remember back in the day? L S D L S D. was developed by the CIA. And they gave it out into the public 'cause they wanted to see the effects on the mind. That was all part of mind control.
I'm not making this up, folks. Yeah. This is the truth about the CX. That's a very dangerous organization, Best. I knew some guys that they used in that.
in that operation that they that they used and that they Um they told him it was a voluntary thing, but then And they they promised him all kinds of extras Um but um Yeah, it didn't end well for 'em. Uh all of 'em ended up having shorter lives. And so Well Pastor Ernie My uh My place growing up was uh Long Island, New York, and there was a big, huge hospital grounds, I'm gonna call it, and it was called Pilgrim State. It was for mental. And there was a friend of mine that had a real bad nervous breakdown, and he was in that hospital.
I went there once to see him, and I found out that there was a whole section there. for people who had taken LS. and their minds never came back. You just never came back there, said Ernie. Do you remember what the goal was?
The goal was that they were They were trying to create soldiers that were uh that would believe. In other words, if they were told you don't feel any pain, That they could uh That that in on their mind would be over matter. And they could they would even wounded, uh they would still just keep fighting. uh and and not feel the pain of the of the wound. And this was the ab w the idea there.
But uh It would see how I I remember that. The woman I had and I I'm her I believe her name was Kathy. Uh I'm trying to think of I can't remember her now, but she was involved in that. She she testified before Congress what they did to her, okay. Uh, they used her in these these mind control experiments and they also used her Uh as you know, a s uh as a prosecutor Yeah.
the uh rich and the elite. in there. And uh it was yeah, she testified she here on the program years ago. Mm. Oh.
And they s actually started with her when she was just a child. Mm. So You know, w you were talking about anthropho uh Cabila Harris. Kevin LaHarris was a very big supporter of antiphor. Um, when they were, you know, looting and burning, you know, Um Hitting old elderly people in the back of the head with bricks, which they they did, killing people.
She was bailing them out. As quick as they got arrested, she would bail them out. Yeah. Yeah, and they and and the Democrats want her for president. Yeah.
Yeah. One other thing, real quick, Pastor, on the Amazon, with the book being on Amazon, another fact that came out was the fact that you actually have to have a seventy two hour window With approval, before that if you have a book deal before it can be put on their platform.
So You're not just talking about Uh the knife. that They put that out. That would have had to been written. and approved seventy two hours earlier than even that.
Well What do you think of that, John?
Well there It was a song. that came out also singing they were playing it there in Utah that uh tomorrow Probably uh Kirk uh will be dead. You know, and then recently. That was the talk of the that area there with the hardcore leftists are and the and the transgender and the woke and all. Uh they were anticipating him being killed uh the next day.
So now, let me ask you: do you think the FBI is going to actually do anything about this, or do you think? that the intelligence agencies are still uh so filled with renegades that That they're not able to do anything about it. I mean, I know that even today. They they have a lot of left behinds. They're still left behind there within the CIA and the FBI.
And I mean this is This is something that uh a legitimate FBI should be all over. Mm-hmm. Right, but I haven't heard anything. It's hard to say, Pastor Ernie, because I mean, the cash patel has really Yeah, it can Um created quite a purge in the FBI. And they've gotten rid of bad.
Bad, bad eggs in there, bad character. And with Pam Bondi in the Justice Department, What is it, the Civil Rights Division? two hundred lawyers have been uh Fired or resigned, and or out, 200 best earned. Yeah. But it's hard to tell how How how deep it's How deep.
How deep how enough is you know, how deep is enough? You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, two hundred is really a very, very small percentage. What do they have, nineteen thousand lawyers altogether?
I think employees, you know, the Including lawyers. Inclu well, yeah. But uh Well, that's That's amazing. That's something we Well, we'll find out. I mean You know, I mean I I want to hear something from the FBI on this.
Well, pastor Earth. Did you see where President Trump and basically his whole cabinet? went to I'm going to say a famous swanky restaurant in Washington DC Showing how safe the The city was now. Yeah, yeah. He was out there and he's saying, I never could have done this before.
I never could have been out here in the street before. Wow. But. They didn't clear that restaurant. and there was hard core left us in there.
And when Trump walked in, They will at If any of them were packing a gun, they could have shot him instantly right there. The FBI allowed This is unconscionable. I saw there's a whole table of these leftists. There was probably I'm going to say somewhere around 10. And he walked in, and then they started to holler at him, and they were you fascist, you this, that, and the other thing.
And he just stood there staring at him. How in the world could the FBI allow that? Not the FBI, the Secret Service. Uh yeah. You're supposed to clear a place like that.
I mean, if Trump was there, Uh uh Vance was there. Um the cash potential. was there Rupi o Was there. They were all there, Pastor. And if someone had a gun, they could have kind of wiped out the president, vice president, and others.
Well, we know that the Secret Service. I mean obviously in on the the assassination there of Pennsylvania, okay. I mean, they they did everything that you could do to you know, w with the exception of Physically taking part in my opinion. To Aiden in a bet to shoot her, what do you think? But Yeah.
combination, yeah, yeah, Pennsylvania. I mean, they transferred agents from a butler to We're coming up to a break, John.
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