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May 8, 2025 12:07 am

President Trump's administration is taking action against government corruption, including a plan to terminate hundreds of environmental justice grants. Meanwhile, a ranching family in South Dakota is relieved after the Trump administration killed a Biden plan to persecute them with huge legal fees and threats of jail. Additionally, a caller shares their personal experience with the Veterans Affairs and the challenges they face in getting help. The discussion also touches on spirituality and the importance of accepting eternal life and salvation.

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Donate and listen to the podcast at WRWL.org and different Bible studies, but I will actually take them into the message that I'm about to preach, because a lot of times there's things or words or something that they might not understand, and you know, and you do the best to explain it during the service, during the message, but you can really get into it much deeper during the Bible study when the people can stop and ask you questions. And so, anyhow, and you know how you can tell that there are people that haven't been to church very much and often, is that during the sermon, they'll raise their hand and want to ask a question, and that's a no-no, right? You don't ask questions during the sermon. Do you know what church polity is? I mean, that's the order of operations or rules of the church or the correctness in which you do something in a church setting.

Right, it's the politics and manner of the church, in other words, how you do, how you work within the church and do it in accordance with the Word of God correctly. Anyhow, so we do that at eleven o'clock, and then at, we're finished with the Wednesday night programs for the summer, we're finished with that, probably pick it back up again in the fall, the Bible and the current events, and so that tonight, today was the last one, it was a really good one too. Anyhow, let me pick this up with Elon Musk, and Elon Musk discovers one hundred thousand active federal employees illegally sitting, getting unemployment benefits. Elon Musk, President Donald Trump's leader of the Department of Government Efficiency, has made a startling discovery. There are more than one hundred thousand active federal employees illegally receiving unemployment benefits.

The Dow's chief revealed the stunning figure Saturday to Lana Trump, host of My View on the Fox News. We've actually found there's a lot of people who are federal government employees, they're active employees, who nonetheless have applied for and received unemployment insurance, Musk explained. While they are federal employees, as incredible as Trump responded, by the way, Trump wants to remodel the White House, certain areas, which is going to cost millions of dollars, and guess what? He's paying for it himself, not the taxpayers. What do you think of that? You know, it's funny you bring this up, someone brought the other day to me actually just last night about this whole birthday celebration and military march they had for Trump and how, oh, it's, it's, you can put tariffs on all these countries and make everything more expensive for Americans, and regardless, it was a bunch of nonsense, but you look at something like this, and you look at the whole first term that Trump served where he didn't take a paycheck versus any other politician, not even president, any other politician that's in power.

We talk about all this USAID and all this doge waste we're finding, I mean, I think that's a standard that we should be holding, you know, to a higher account than a lot of other things that are in the news these days. You know, we see jets all across the country every day, hours on a jet that's used on taxpayers' money vacations and outings wasted on taxpayer money, so for him to openly come out and say that, hey, all of these renovations that I want to do are not going to be from taxpayer money, I think that's a huge move. Well, those four Democrat congressmen that went down to try to get, they went down to South America, or Central America to, what was it, Venezuela, to bring back, you know, they wanted to bring back as many murderers, as many drug dealers, rapists as they can bring back, but anyhow, while they were there, they were living high on the hog while they were there on taxpayers' bucks, but then the Speaker of the House Johnson said no more, he will not, from this point on, allocate any funds, if they want to keep doing that, they got to do it on their own dime, that'll stop them on it. Oh, absolutely, I mean, we should be taking that action across the board through any kind of government, whether it's state, local, or federal, I mean, that is the kind of thing that we need to, as citizens, start holding these politicians and officeholders accountable for. Well, alright, you know what Trump had to say when Musk told him about the 100,000 federal workers, 100,000 are getting unemployment and working at the same time, Trump said, that's called fraud. Trump said, we need arrests. What do you think of that? 110 percent, fully agree, couldn't agree more.

Okay. We have such a manipulated system when it comes to government aid, and don't get me wrong, there should be government aid, that's part of the Constitution, we promoted general welfare, but the fact that there's so much leniency and it's so easy for people who don't need any kind of assistance or can go to work, and it's evident by them actually working a second job while collecting this, to get in, it's something that, you know, it's been going on for decades at this point, but it's absolutely sickening. Well now, there's a lot of them, and the Republicans are saying that Pam Bondi is moving too slow, they said, you know, Matt Bence-Wole, Bence-Wole, a former nuclear scientist for the U.S. Department of Energy, noted they actually received unemployment benefits from the government while they're working, and then so, he says, this is the definition of fraudulent payment, where is Pam Bondi? Where is Pam Bondi? So, I don't know, she seems like she's been pretty busy to me. I was going to say, I was skeptical about the appointment of Pam Bondi when it was first announced, you know, I've been gladly proven wrong, I think she's done a great job so far, and you know, there is a lot still to do, we talk about the Epstein case all the time, we talk about, there's a lot of arrests and a lot of fraud still to be fought out there, but when there's so much, you have to start somewhere, right?

You have to work through it, you can't get it all done at one point in time, so, you know, hopefully that's something that is, you know, I feel like it's been moving along pretty efficiently, hopefully it continues at this pace, if not a higher pace. All right, Trump EPA takes down hundreds of Biden's environmental justice handouts, and so, this is a World News Daily article too, by Nick, Nick Pope, okay, the Environmental Protection Agency is terminating 800 grants meant to further environmental justices, the agency said in legal filing dated April 23rd, through the first 100 days of the second Trump administration, the EPA has been working to terminate or otherwise claw back billions and billions of dollars in grants awarded, given to politically connected organizations and left-wing groups by the Biden EPA. The agency states it has already formally notified 400 environmental justice grant recipients that their awards are set for cancellation, and they will soon notify another 400 guarantees of terminations in the coming days, it said, in the filing, this sounds like a really good thing to me, you have all of these, these, you know, so-called environmental things, all it does is cost us money, and that's the reason you had all the environmental mindset in California, where they wouldn't cut back, and have the fire lines, and cause people, many, many people, their lives, billions of dollars worth of home damage, because of that. The filing spells out the scale of the EPA's plans to terminate hundreds of environmental justice handouts, which submitted to, in relation to the lawsuit brought against the Trump administration by various groups that alleges their grants were wrongly terminated. The EPA is the process of sending out the formal termination cancellation notices to all of the impacted guarantees to, in filing states. The EPA has already sent out formal notices to the process of sending out formal notices to approximately 377 grantees for the remaining, approximately 404 grantees, EPA plans to issue notices within the next two months.

Well, that sounds like a great idea. I mean, can you imagine, after all these years, style, after all these years, we finally have a president that's actually doing what he said he would do. It's amazing, isn't it? It's, it's such a, it's such a refreshing time, because you have things like the Department of Education, like the EPA, where you look at it and, you know, I don't think, as much as the narrative on the other side would like you to push this, I don't think anyone's gonna sit here and say, oh, I'm anti-environment. That's not a stance anybody has. Everybody wants to have a clean and healthy environment. It's the fact that we're wasting our time in the environment. It's the fact that we're wasting hundreds and billions of dollars, with a B, on these departments that aren't doing anything. You have departments that are, at one point in time, advocating that everybody needs to drive an electric car, and now that Elon Musk is part of political office, everyone's saying, oh, nobody buy a Tesla, that's the devil. It's such a contradiction, it's such a waste of money, and these people are just raking in money for it.

You look at something like the Department of Education, which was, is getting dismantled as we speak, and you look at the fact that test scores and literacy rates continue to drop in the United States year after year, we see that state-funded schooling, bare minimum education, as I like to call it, is being pushed hand over fist so that these schools can get grants from the government to tell them what the curriculum needs to be, rather than actually having an education system that works to get kids the education they need. It's broken systems, and I say absolutely, tear them all out and start them from the ground up. Actually, doing the right thing. I mean, we've had the inmates running the asylum in this country for a while, haven't we? Oh, absolutely. And so now, I mean, to do, you know, and I remember two U.S. senators saying that Trump continues keeping his promise and doing what he promised. They're going to expect all of us to do that. In other words, that was a complaint.

This is just not the way Washington works, right? Right. You know what? You've got a glass you're drinking out of. It's got a crack in it. You can't keep expecting to patch the glass, and it'll hold up forever, right?

At some point, you've got to throw it out and get a new glass. All right. I'll tell you what we should do. Let's open the phone lines and take some calls out there. Do you think we'll get any first-time callers? It's been a while since we've had a first-time caller. We can see if anyone will prove us wrong and call in for the first time. Yeah.

If you're a first-time caller, call in for the first time, right? There you go. No fan of mine. President Trump's back at network, fires back at the network host.

I watched this. It reminds her UAW praised his auto terrorist. I just love it the way he handles these people.

I mean, it's so good because we've wanted so long to see the arrogance of these foul people on the left in the media, and they're really getting what's coming to them, huh? President Donald Trump touted praise for his tariff for the President of the United Auto Workers during a Sunday interview with NBC host Kristen Wilker. Trump imposed a 25% tariff covering imported cars, SUVs, crossovers, minivans, and light trucks in addition to parts including engines and transmissions, citing national security concerns in March. The Meet the Press host questioned Trump about the effects his tariffs on China would have on small businesses to which the President immediately fired back. Now, you know, when you have something like tariffs, initially it is going to hurt some, okay. I mean, that's because what happens is until you, you know, find new suppliers here in America who can supply the very same things that you're getting from China because they're going to raise their prices, then it's not going to be, you're not going to be able to import all of this stuff, but they should be buying American-made anyhow. The problem is, too, that China, now China, they're at a point where they're going to have to negotiate. They're going to have to negotiate. And do you know what the whole point with these tariffs are? In my opinion, we should start at zero. They should start at zero, start at zero, and then talk about, there are certain items, there are certain areas, you know, where it would be fair to have a tariff, right? But not just totally one-sided.

Well, 100 percent. You have to look at the logistical facts of tariffs. Like you said, it's a bigger picture issue. It's not that we're saying, oh, we don't want to trade with X, Y, and Z country. Number one is to increase American production.

The goal has always been to get business back in America that creates more jobs, that creates a cheaper product for American citizens as well. At the same time, on top of that, like you mentioned, we've been getting tariffed by multiple countries, dozens of countries for many, many years at this point to which we haven't been having a reciprocal tariff for them. We've had open and fair trade, which just is not right. The fact that we are getting charged for imports and exports to other countries and not reciprocating that fee is outrageous to me.

Even the fact that it went on that long. So again, it's a larger picture issue. I had this conversation legitimately last night with someone who's on the other side of the argument saying that nobody signed up for these tariffs. It's hurting the American citizens. And my point initially was people used to sacrifice their lives. They used to sacrifice their lives to die for this country and the people in it.

And nowadays, people won't sacrifice buying cheap crap on Amazon because of tariffs. You know what's happening anyway? You know, it's all about our politicians, our senators and congresspeople and the bureaucrats taking bribes from these foreign countries to sell out their own countrymen. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, and that's exactly it. And no one has done better than that in the Biden crime cartel.

The Biden crime family has done better at that than anyone. And I understand that there's a lot of people that don't look that far into it, that don't actually see what the tariff is and why the process is where it is and are just concerned about themselves and their locality. And the argument is always, well, I don't want to shop at a Wal-Mart, but it's cheaper than going somewhere local. I don't want to shop at Amazon, but it's cheaper than going somewhere local. If you start shopping local, and I'm not saying, like you said at the beginning of this, I'm not saying you stop cold turkey shopping anywhere else. I'm not saying that, you know, you go broke going to a shop that's relatively more expensive.

But when you can and when you have the money, I always encourage shopping local and promoting local business, because the more money you put into a local business, the more that they make, the cheaper the product can be in the future. That's how it works. That's how commerce works. And you keep the money in your community. Exactly.

All right. Here, you pick a couple of little businesses. First of all, the phone lines are now open at 888-677-9673. That's 888-677-9673. If you have a question or comment, give us a call here.

If you have like a really hard question, ask Stile. He's learning this business and see how he does. Okay. Who do we have? We have a repeat caller, not a first time caller, but we have Bob in New Jersey.

Okay. We'll go out to Bob in New Jersey. Hey, Bob. Hey, Pastor Ernie.

Sorry, I'm not a first time caller. Two things, okay, which is important. I am requesting that you put over the line that we do a prayer vigil, whether it be for one minute or two minutes, for not only Trump and his administration, but the rest of the country. Because I remember you were saying, and I heard other places too, that the communist people said if Trump gets elected and this summer they're not only going to start rioting and burning places up, try to take over communication places, but it's already starting. Because in New York, in Times Square, they had these people throwing stuff at the cops and basketballs and pushing them around, and the cops weren't able to respond. And if they see them getting away with that, whoever's financing this, they're saying, okay, we're going to push our big plan for the summer.

Well, the problem with that, the 12-year-old, they already let him loose. They didn't even, again, you know, you got that corrupt, corrupt Attorney General there, a prosecuting attorney in New York City, Bragg, and this guy, you know, he lets criminals loose. I mean, these are George Soros bought and paid for, put in there, these are criminals. They're criminals. No doubt.

But I think, I mean, we got to do a prayer type thing. I mean, you know better than I do. And the last thing I wanted to tell you is something short there. Somewhere, I think it was, let me just look at it real quickly, in Spain, they found four children that have been locked up in their place. They weren't mouth, they weren't whatever the word is. They were fed and everything, but their parents had the COVID, I forget what they call it, but they would not let their children out because they thought the COVID virus was still around and everything.

It's insanity. That reminds me, I think in the 1990s, somewhere in Japan, they found coming out of the mountain, like in the underground tunnels, three Japanese soldiers that thought the war was still going on. Do you hear about that? No, that was in the Philippines, where they found those there that was from World War II. They thought that they were still, that the war was still going on.

They didn't know when it ended. That's crazy. Before I go, just please think about that. A little prayer vigil every night for the situation.

You're the best, Pastor Ernie. Have a great night. All right, thanks. Okay, that's a good idea. You know, we do that all the time. When we close today, I think at the end of the program, we should close and remember to pray for the President, pray for our country, you know, and pray for the Democrats. The Democrats need to, you know, God needs to humble them, bring them to repentance, lest they should all burn in hell.

I mean, and that's where they're headed, unless they repent, huh? Who do we have? We have a first-time caller, Jennifer from Oklahoma. All right. Hey, Jennifer, are you there? Hi.

Hold on one second. Let me get your speaker. I'm a first-time caller, and I guess I have more of a question for you than anything.

Well, listen, what took you so long to call for the first time? Well, I just happened to run across your broadcast. I've not heard it before, and I've been intrigued.

I've been listening for about an hour now. But I've been going through something. My mother passed.

She had the COVID shot and all that, and she passed away. And I've been kind of realizing and awakening to the reality that I've been kind of in prison, and I'm having issues with the government as far as needing assistance and not having able to be here to be heard. Local stories will not help me. It's hard to explain, but who would...how would I go about being heard if you've been...the government is seriously like he was saying earlier that communication can be blocked and all that. So I'm not...

It's hard to explain it. I'm in an illegal situation where I was the carrier, a postal carrier, and I'm a postal reporter here, and I have not been able to do that. I had...I don't know who went in, but they backed out my CIN, and they had just bought me some media. They just bought me some contacts. I cannot get through.

My money has been depleted as a...as a reward. They've got custodial over me. And everything that Trump has been doing has been assisting me, and it's like I'm wanting to get my voice out to him and not be heard. I've got to hear now in this and uncovering things that my mother had...she was an armed security guard and a private investigator, and she had been battling and boarding off all this on her own, but then as soon as she was done on the property, and they included general rights and such, and she had already been going through this battle, and she just got tired, and now I'm trying to get that torch, and I cannot even get through to anyone.

That, you know, you're not the only one. This is happening to a lot of people, a whole lot of people, and we've done a number of programs on there, and especially we're going to be doing one, I think, in the very near future. Just yesterday, I had people stop over, and they took a chance. They came all the way from Minnesota, and they took a chance that I would be around the church. They were coming through here.

They had gone in D.C. and had given testimony there. What's happening, there's a real crime ring. It's like a crime cartel or crime ring here in America with corrupt judicial and probate courts. These probate courts are stealing people's property, and what's happening is these rogue judges are taking the relatives and the people, you know, who should be in charge of taking care of the ones, the relatives and the ones, they're taking them off and not even letting them testify in court and putting their own people on. Now, we did, with John McTurner and John Holman some years ago, we uncovered a bunch of this corruption in Pennsylvania, but it's out there, and it's coast to coast, and it's a major, major problem, and we're trying to get to the Justice Department. This is what I was telling these folks that came in to see me yesterday, because this lady, that was what happened. They took her off as being the one who, what do they call it, attorney, I'm trying to think of the name of it real quick, and just virtually stole her husband's property, and it seems like there's a tendency once the nursing homes end up with your property, then these people, they expire in the nursing homes. So there's a lot of that going on out there.

So I would start with you if you could. Do you have a Congressman that's actually a real Congressman? No, the Governor is involved in this. They've been putting wastewater onto the property and another except for cancer, and also signed up from the medical side of it to her work. She's been into a study group or a clinical study. She never donated a spot of science from the inception of a tumor in her brain and breast cancer. She never did that, but that's what they did to her, and she just believed she had cancer, and I'm uncovering where she had evidence that she got it. She never had cancer at all, and I'm starting to think of it as she did, and the thing is, we live at the bottom of an oiled area where oil is being transported out, and I'm preventing the levees, but the only thing that's expected me is the fact that I am a native sovereign, and it was an allotment, and I'm hanging on my string.

If I lose the court or the district court, then I'll lose everything. I mean, they're warning it. They're giving it back to the community, and I've been bargained out by the publicly noted, and I've got people coming at me in all directions, and I have no protection, and I need it to go to the higher court to be heard so I can have more protection, and that's where I'm being silent, and it's good communication, and it's been a fight.

I mean, it's fair. I've been told that I want to buy strength, but I've got it. I've uncovered it. I've found out the coding that they're manipulating, and I can't escape through it, and doing work, and they're doing destruction. I'm an interest policy, and then they're putting the financial burden bag on me where it looks like I am a consultant, and I can't handle my finances, and then they're making it their way through it with the government in all areas, transportation, Department of Transportation, social services, and then doing the Medicare and Medicaid assistance, and health care, and then through the nurse at home. That's my policy, and I'll be a little confident in doing a policy with the power of attorney for any kind of government system. I don't know, you know, I could talk to McTernan on that. You're in Oklahoma, huh?

Yes. You definitely need a good attorney. You need a real good attorney.

I live in such a rural area, there's no one that can handle the tort side of it, because it's a tort case. They've afflicted me, and they've come on my property. They've stolen actual real documents. They baited my dog. I have a dog that I rescued on a route, and they baited my dog outside my property lines, and they tortured her.

They shot her 20 times and her puppy 20 times each, and they had hooks in them. I mean, they were completely tortured, and I have found them and have carried them back. I'm physically literally in danger, and I don't know who to go to. I've tried going to the sheriff's office. They've come up to my place, and they will not accept any of the evidence I've found. I don't know the neighbor.

He was really secluded, but my other puppies had got him out, and I went over to look for him, and that man had moved. He's been gone about a year in an abandoned property, and I found people pay their checks to all my mother's accounts. My account is through another banking system, so they're doing brokerage banking.

They're using the same account numbers through different banking systems. I'm going to have to go. If you give your phone number when I hang up to the board op to style, I can maybe try to put some people in touch with you tomorrow. So go ahead, and I'm going to have to go to a break. We'll be back after this. So find this new age church of mine.

The service is laid back, but still I know you refit so, and I can't stop thinking about all of that. Well, I remember when God was praised, but that's not what the new age church is for. The truth is fine, but it's long gone.

The gospel's true, but it ain't wanted anymore. I am, he said. You had better know why. You will be there. I am, he died. And he has risen on high.

And if you are lost, then you had better know why. You leave him holy still. Did you ever read about a child who seemed to be a king, and he became one? Well, he's coming back to judge the world, and he and the father are still the very same one. But I've had a fearfulness deep inside, and I've cried because I'm so afraid to know. And I'm not a man trying to be scared till I go to heaven or as I've feared below. I am, he said. You had better care.

Is it a judgment for all? You will be there. I am, he died. He has risen on high.

If you're lost, then you had better know why. I am, he said. You had better care.

There is a judgment for all. You will be there. I am, he died. All right, and we're back. We're going to go on to Louisiana. We have Terry.

Hey, Terry, you're in the air. Yes, I moved here from Texas. Anyway, when I moved, I tried to get with the V.A.

here. It's a whole different ballgame. Come to find out, the V.A. is not a national program.

It's a state program. When I moved here, I had to go back to the United States, square one, to get recognized and to get treatment. I went here because I have all kinds of physical problems, stable by drag kids. So I go to the V.A.

with a problem that's routine for old guys. Couldn't poop, couldn't pee, and they wouldn't do a thing for me. And so they told me go to civilian hospitals. I had some bad experience with COVID.

I didn't want to go there. So I ended up calling Houston last night, or the night before last. Anyway, they gave me a number, which we called urgent care, 24-7. Come to find out, there's no emergency room for the V.A.s anywhere. They didn't want to close them all down. Now the hospitals have the emergency room separated for some reason.

They slept alone in medical care, and people needed to investigate. Well, you know, what's happening right now, because there was in the V.A., I've noticed something about that since Trump's been back in. The attitude I've been talking to, a number of the people that work in their attitudes there, is much more positive than it was under Biden. And, of course, what's happened, Biden tried to destroy the V.A.

He tried to, you know, the attitude is not big on veterans. Now, what you can do, Trump has set it up that where, remember when he was in the first time, he set it up that if you, if you couldn't go, if you weren't close enough to a V.A., or if they couldn't do it, then they would send you to another civilian hospital, and the V.A. would pick up the bill. Okay, they would be.

So, that's probably the way it is where you're at. Now, if you go to, I would check it out, go to a regular hospital, the V.A. will probably pick up the tab, but you'd have to go, you know who you do? Call your Congressman. Call your Congressman there, and that's their job, to take care of this stuff. That's why they're there. So, I would call your local Congressman, explain the situation to them, and their job is to fix that for you. So, there you go.

Are you still there? Pardon? Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Anyway, I'm very familiar with that.

But anyway, the point is, is that it's a whole different ballgame, and they're trying to shove you out. I went to this, like, the urgent care had to wait 8 o'clock for me to see me, and once I thought to the doctor, first thing they did, they gave me a false report from the EKG machine. The reason I know it was false, the other day when I went to this free standard ER, they didn't have the same result on their EKG machine as the V.A.

has. The V.A., I think, has a machine rigged where they wanted to just ship you off to civilian hospital. So, really, really mal-treatment. Alrighty, well, you know, you can report that. I would report that to the head of the V.A. I would.

I'll try to. The V.A. is charged out. I'll say I got what they call an emergency 411, V.A. 411. I call them, and they can't do anything, apparently. So, it's not getting any further than the, what we call it, bureaucrats in D.C.

They're still there, apparently. Well, I don't know what else to tell you. I know what I do, you know, when these situations happen like this. This is why you have representatives, congressmen and senators, and sometimes you better just go right to the senator's office, your state's, you know, your U.S. senator's office. Sometimes you get things that depends on what kind of a congressman you have, huh? Alrighty, well, listen, thanks.

Hopefully, you'll work these things out, but I would try them all. I would start with your congressman, go to your senator. If you don't get, go to the governor's office.

The squeaky wheel gets the oil. There you go. Alrighty. Who else do we have there? The phone lines are open at 888-677-9673. Let's see if we can get some other first-time callers.

We got one here tonight. We haven't had a lot of first-time callers recently. Again, that number is 888-677-9673.

888-677-9673. When I was talking about Trump, he was talking about the tariffs there. When he fired back at the host of those talk shows, and I love the way he does that. I mean, he really handles them. Now, I've noticed something.

They're much more cautious than they were before they go on the attack, aren't they? So, there you go. Alright, here's something, too, that we started to talk about when we didn't finish before.

Chilling. Trump officials kill Biden's persecution of a ranching family. Rancher's family.

The administration of President Donald Trump has killed a Joe Biden plan that involved persecuting a multi-generation South Dakota ranching family with huge legal fees and even threats of jail. No family farmer or rancher should have to go through what the Maud family did, explained Buck Werby, a Nebraska cattleman, and the president of the National Cattlemen's Beef Association. The targeted prosecution of the Maud family was way out of line for the U.S. Forest Service, and this was a clear example of government overreach that had direct catastrophic impacts for the hardworking fifth-generation ranching family.

And there's a lot more of this stuff that goes on than people realize. He goes on to say it was under Biden's administration that a dispute arose over a fence line on land the family had ranched for more than a century. Family members actively were involved in discussions to do an assessment of the problem, if there was one, and reach a resolution. But then the U.S. Forest Service dispatched armed federal agents to serve each Maud family member with a federal summons for theft, even though the management of the boundary line and partial in question hadn't been changed since the early 1900s. The result was that Charles and Heather Maud each was facing claims of theft of federal property and threatened with 10 years in jail and fines of $250,000, according to a News Dakota report. Charles and Heather Maud are public lands ranchers who for decades held a federal grazing permit and were permittees of good standing, said Public Health Council President and Colorado rancher Tim Canterbury, who also holds a federal grazing permit. As permittees, we are required to work collaboratively with the government, but when federal agencies view ranchers as the enemy, it threatens the trust that every single rancher has in their federal partners.

The public outcry we saw on behalf of the Mauds goes to show the public lands ranchers everywhere are breathing a sigh of relief that the USDA Undersecretary of Rawlins is no longer trying to slap handcuffs on hardworking farmers and ranchers. Who do we have? We have first time caller Albert in Dallas. Wow.

Okay. First time caller Albert in Dallas. You're in the air. Yes, sir. Pastor Sanders, how are you? I'm doing good, Albert. How are you?

Good, good, good. What I was calling about is last week, Pastor Sanders, we had a young man. He was from San Diego named Jack. And one of the questions he had asked you is, you know, was God physical or spirit? And I was listening to it. And you explained some stuff about Jesus stuff. But it never seemed like you got to a point where you actually answered him in regards to his questions.

And so the reason I called is just in case Jack is listening. And that was that basically, quote, basically, john 424, where it says that God is spirit, and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Well, that's true, he is spirit. But also, if you read the Colossians, when he tells you that the Godhead can be found bodily in the person of Jesus Christ. So he's telling you there that the Godhead has a body, soul and a spirit.

Okay, so you had, when you looked at the Lord Jesus, he never gave up his deity. But Jesus said, when you've seen me, you've seen the Father. So, again, it tells you that the Godhead can be found bodily in the person of Christ alone. So that's both spirit and body too, isn't it? Oh, I agree with you there, that Jesus was manifest and flesh. But, you know, I do feel that, you know, God is his spirit and that, you know, we're in it says on and I believe I'm not sure where else in john, but you know, whereas Jesus basically is talking saying that, you know, you must be born again, you must be born of the spirit. That's john 316 born of water and in the spirit. Yeah. john, that starts with john, chapter three, actually starting with verse one, and then goes all the way through but yeah, where he talks about that which is, you know, is flesh is flesh and that which is spirit is spirit. And so he's talking about you're born of the water and the blood. So, anyhow, yeah.

Good question. First time caller. Thanks for calling. Already. That was that was interesting. Who else do we have there tonight? Okay.

All righty. The lines are open at 8886779673. We got time maybe for one quick call. If not, I'm gonna have to go. And it's that time where we get to the most important part of the program. And of course, we know that's always given the invitation.

And so that's what I think I'm gonna do. I'm gonna give the invitation because nobody called in right. They had their chance, didn't they? They missed their chance.

They missed it. All right. Well, but I'll ask you some questions out of life's greatest decisions. Tell me, is it career? Is it marriage? Is it buying a home? Is it investments? Is it retirement? Or is it life insurance?

What is the greatest investments? It's life insurance. If you're talking about your insurance of salvation, eternal life, huh?

That's right. The greatest decision you will ever make is to accept or reject eternal life, to have peace with God and the assurance of heaven. You must have eternal life. And that's what the fellow was just talking about when Jesus said you must be born again when he was talking to Nicodemus. And he told him, he said, because that which is born of flesh is flesh and that which is the spirit is the spirit.

And that's the second birth, huh? You see, when God created Adam and Eve and put them in the Garden of Eden, they knew nothing about sin. God visited them in the cool of the day and they enjoyed sweet fellowship with their Creator. God only made one restriction and the Lord God commanded the man saying, of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it, for in that day thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely die. Now in spite of God's blessing, Adam and Eve disobeyed God in the aid of the forbidden tree. That day they died spiritually for the wages of sin is death, Romans 6 23. By their own choice they were separated from God who loved them.

They were driven from the garden and mankind has been separated from God ever since. Wherefore as by one man sin entered into the world and death by sin and so death passed upon all men. But that all have sinned, Romans 5 12, so you and I, like Adam, are sinners. We have not obeyed all of God's commandments. As it is written, there is none righteous, no not one, Romans 3 10, for all have sinned to come short of the glory of God, Romans 3 23.

Some people think they can earn God's acceptance by doing good works. But we are all as an unclean thing. And all our righteousness is filthy rags, Isaiah 64 6.

God says your good works are not good in His sight. You are still a sinner separated from God by my friend. There is a terrible penalty for sin. If you die in your sins, you will spend eternity in the flames of a burning hell. And whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire, Revelation 20 15.

And the smoke of their torment ascended up forever and ever. Now the good news is that the Lord Jesus Christ paid the full penalty for your sin. God has made a way for you to be reconciled to Him. But God commandeth His love toward us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5 8.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him shouldn't perish but have everlasting life. John 3 16. The Bible states He was wounded for our transgressions.

He was bruised for our iniquities, Isaiah 53 5. Because Jesus shed His precious blood for all of our sins. God will free you from the guilt, the power and the penalty of sin. If you only repent and believe the Gospel Mark 1 15. The Apostle Paul preached to all that they should repent and turn to God. Acts 26 20.

The Gospel is that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures and that He was buried and that He arose again the third day. First Corinthians 15 three and four. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and now shall be saved. Acts 16 31.

Neither your family, baptism, church membership nor good works can save you. For by grace are you saved through faith and not of yourselves. It is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2 8 9. Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life. No man cometh unto the Father but by me. John 4 6 14 6.

The gift of God's eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6 23. My friend if you reject God's gift of eternal life, not only will you remain separated from God now but also when you die. Without Christ you will be eternally separated from God in the flames of hell. Please don't wait until it's too late.

Have you made the right decision? Even though you are not worthy of God's mercy He wants you to save you right now and if you will pray to God asking the Lord Jesus Christ to forgive you and to give you eternal life for whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10 13. Well we're coming up to that time that we come to. Every night at this time. Folks and again I hope you if you haven't said that I hope you make that decision for the Lord tonight.

So as we say at this time thanks for being here. Good night and God bless and always always always keep fighting the fight. Fight. Fight. Fight. Fight. Fight. Fight. What's Left.

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