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But if you've got something on your mind, feel free to call in and talk about it. But I wanted to ask you a question. Have we polished The occult. And I'm talking to believers here. Have we polished The occult.
Have we cleaned it up? dressed it in cool fonts and catchy phrases, invited it right into our homes, our playlist, and even our pulpits.
Now I'll tell you why I'm asking this, because yesterday... Ozzy Osborne died. He called himself the Prince of Darkness. And he built his brand on this. You know, the whole bat thing.
By the way, do you know the story of him biting the head off the bat? I mean, he didn't. Know that it was a real bat.
Somebody threw it up on stage. They thought it was a prop. And so he did it at the moment. He said he bit down into it. He knew something.
This was tasted off of this is bad. And he went and got a rabies shot. I think it happened in Iowa. But it became possible. Heart of his legend in his whole you know, shtick.
And it it was all performance art and show business and all that kind of stuff. But think about that title though. Prince of Darkness. And and it's been on the news everywhere. But Prince of Darkness.
Everybody's saying the Prince of Darkness died. And do you do you know the origin of that phrase? It wasn't original to him. He didn't come up with that. It actually goes back over 500 years to a very different context.
I've been doing a series on hymns on my program for caregivers that airs on this network as well. And it's hymns that every caregiver should know. And this week we're covering Martin Luther's A Mighty Fortress is Our God. And there's a line in one of the stanzas that says, The Prince of Darkness Grim, we tremble not for him. Luther was naming Satan not metaphorically.
He wasn't named him playfully, but as the real enemy of God and his people. And now, fast forward five centuries later, and that same title is worn like a badge of honor on stage and headlines. all over the media and T-shirts.
So how did we get here? And wha what what what brought us to this point? And I'm not here to just pile on to Ozzie Osborne. I'm not here to pile on to people who like metal. I'm just simply asking a couple of questions here.
As the church, are we separating ourselves from this thing or have we allowed it to encroach in? Rush Limbaugh used to ask years ago: if good compromises with evil, who wins? Black Sabbath was the name of Ozzie's band. Actually, it wasn't the original name. They started out as a blues rock group called Earth.
I think it was Blues Earth, but maybe just Earth. But there was another. There was another band that was in the UK that had the same name, and so it was causing some confusion. But across the street from their rehearsal space in England, Birmingham, England, people were lining up to see a 1963 Italian horror film starring. Boris Karloff, you remember him?
He played the original monster in Frankenstein. And the film's name was Black. Sabbath. And one of the band members, I think it was Geezer Butler, the bass player, said: if people are willing to pay to be scared, why not music? And that's when it all shifted, and they took the movie title for their band name and it darkened their sound.
And with the name Black Sabbath itself, their music was laced with um You know, lyrics about witches and curses and the occult. And, you know, and one of the things that defined their music, and this is the blues in general, was a tritone. They call it the Devil's Interval.
Well, I don't subscribe to the tritone being inherently evil. Uh the monks talked about they they avoided in Gregorian chants and they um Didn't want to use it because it had a lot of dissonance and it was unresolved, but it became a hallmark. toned sound for the blues. A lot of it, you could the train whistles were done in a tritone because it kind of cut through the noise. You could hear it.
All it is is an augmented fourth.
So, if you have a fourth interval, for example, if I'm at the keyboard here, so if you go to, if I'm playing the note A, that's an A below middle C. And that's a D. Mm. That's a fourth. But if you do an augmented fourth, You get that sound.
Sounds like a train whistle, doesn't it? But it's unresolved. And you know, you when you're playing in the blues, You know, you're doing stuff like...
Okay, so you got blues. But we use it in. Every hymn out there. I mean, you got um See That's that interval right there.
So there's nothing wrong with the interval. And don't let anybody tell you that way. Music is music, but they called it diabolus in musica, which is Latin for the devil of music. I do not subscribe to that. But anyway, sometimes people can get a little too deep in the weeds on that.
But Needless to say, Black Sabbath, their whole thing was to shock and to scare and to create all this. And then. You know. Ozzy embraced the whole thing. And now he's being remembered as a trailblazer, an icon, a legend, and all that kind of stuff.
And I'm not here. to dance on a man's grave. I'm just simply saying What does that say about the church? What is our response? Have we allowed this stuff into our culture, into our conversations?
Do we say things like karma? Or the universe has other plans. Knock on wood. You know, when I was in the hospital, With Gracie, I had surgeons to CNAs. No kidding, from every spectrum of the medical industry.
Gracie ended up, she wanted to have two, she didn't want to have, she had to have two operations, but it morphed into 11, and this thing was supposed to be. A seven-week stay, a three-hour cruise, but it was supposed to be that, and then it turned into 143 days.
So it was, there were a lot of concerned medical providers around, and they said, okay, if we do this, this, and then they would knock on like the hospital tray. That was uh you know, by her bed, but it's faux wood, it's not even real wood. And they would knock on and say, knock on wood.
Well, it's not real wood. And I looked at them and I said, you know, you're knocking on faux wood. to drive away a foe spirit. to hope that a surgery goes well. We're not doing that.
And they would look at me kind of puzzled. I said, We don't do that, we don't call out to the universe to do this. But but do you see how that kind of vernacular has gotten into our culture? It's like we've just you know, we're we're winking at the occult. Just like, you know, when somebody gets out there and calls himself the Prince of Darkness.
You know, can you imagine Martin Luther looking at him said, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, buddy, dude. You really want to go with that moniker. But do we do this? Do we have these encroachments into the church? Do we talk about?
Karma. Do we talk about the universe? You know, all that kind of stuff. Those are things that are a bit troubling. And maybe we need to Go back and look at some things.
Luther said it best: The Prince of Darkness grim, but we tremble not for him. His rage we can endure, for lo, his doom is sure. Hollywood has had a fascination with the occult for you know, as long as I've been alive. I mean, it's just been constant. And it's in our culture.
We we have it's permeated into every place. Look at Disney. I mean, look at the stuff they put out. Just take a look. And who is their target audience, by the way?
Children. By and large. The question I have for you is: I mean, I can't stop it. I don't have any control over any of these things. But the question I have to ask is Is the church polishing this?
Are we winking at it? Are we saying, well, it's you know, it's not too bad? Or ah, it's just rock and roll. There's nothing to this. Is this something the church is needing to have a conversation about?
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Truth, if you want to be a part of the program, I'm talking about the church winking. at things we probably Well, not probably. What scripture tells us not to. In fact, it tells us to shun. And I'll go back to Galatians 5:19 through 21.
Now the works of the flesh are evident. sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, and things like these. I warned you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. And this is the Scriptures telling us this. Apostle Paul is saying this with apostolic authority under the superintendence of the Holy Spirit, writing this letter to the Galatians.
He could easily be writing that to a modern day America, could he not? I mean, look at our society, look at our culture, and that word sorcery. Um it it's the Greek word is get this. Are you ready? Pharmakea Pharmakia.
where we get the word Pharmacy, pharmaceuticals. That root word. Meaning drug. Poison or spell, which Says a lot about our pharmaceutical business. But pharmakia, I think that's how you pronounce it.
And it involves witchcraft or spell casting, occultic rituals involving mind-altering substances. attempts to manipulate spiritual powers through pagan or demonic means. And you think, well, Peter, it's just harmless when you say knock on wood. That's just a saying, is it? I mean, the whole thing was to, you knocked on a piece of wood to drive away the wood sprite.
You know the the Oops. spiritual beings. I mean, it's a pagan ritual. And we have so much of that has permeated into our culture. Do we even recognize it anymore?
You know, our dollar bill says in God we trust, not in the universe we trust. The universe is not sentient. The universe is not a seity. It doesn't have a seity. It's not sufficient in of itself.
Only God is. But do you see how these things encroach? on us in our culture and then we as a church Well we just We just Boink at it. We wink at a lot of things. We wink it fornication.
We get a lot of things in the church, or do you think we do, or do not? It seems to me that we have allowed quite a bit. And we structure our services. to accommodate people. In that sense, as opposed to, of course, we just lost John MacArthur, and he was known for saying.
Turn off. the lights and the music, and just have somebody stand and preach the Word of God. And see how many people show up. That ought to tell you a lot. I mean, I'm paraphrasing what he said, but that's a pretty close representation.
Basically, turn off all the accoutrements of the show. quote unquote and just preach the scriptures. I love how an expositor would, you know, do that, like on You know, Mother's Day. We want to welcome all the mothers here. Happy Mother's Day now back to the book of John, you know, kind of thing.
You know, it's not topic-related, but we're preaching through the scriptures. And there was um A young minister who was telling a seasoned minister, he said, Well, I'm running out of topics to preach on. He said, What do you mean? Have you preached the entire Bible?
Well no. But we don't do that any more, do we? We we we try to bring topics in that are kind of hook people in, and we have a lot of things that are more I don't know. pop culture referenced and things such as that. And it's okay to speak to the pop culture.
It's okay to speak about the pop culture, but it's always in the context of what Scripture says. And you look how much of this stuff has been allowed into And our churches, our Sunday school classes. Um Our families, our homes. Do we even recognize it? And so that's I think that's a good idea.
broach that subject to say Do we do we polish this up? Are we winking at these things? Are we building a service? There's on and this is on today. I mean, t this morning I saw that there's a church out there that's using the movie Wicked as part of a sermon series that they're, you know, they're teaching people about good and evil or whatever, and they're using the movie Wicked.
Is that necessary? I mean, if you went to church. And your pastor wanted to show excerpts of the movie Wicked. as part of the Sunday morning worship service. to make a point of somehow.
I mean, i is that something you would feel comfortable with? I would. And I wonder why we're doing this. Do we really need that? Is this necessary?
And I look at these big stages we have, and I've seen church worship service, but supposedly worship services turned into. Uh close to being a Vegas performance. I mean, there's so many things going on. Is this something we feel comfortable with? as is the church body.
And I look at the encroachment, and we're going to have to be vigilant. I don't see any other way around it. We're going to have to be vigilant. Here's what the Scripture says. Here's what the text says.
Revelations 21:8. But as for the cowardly, the faithless. the detestable, As for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death. That's what the text says. That's not my opinion.
That's what the text says. Acts nineteen, eighteen through nineteen. Also many of these who were now believers came confessing and divulging their practices, and a number of those who had practised magic arts brought their books together and burned them in the sight of all. Leviticus twenty six If a person turns to mediums and necromancers, whoring after them, I will set my face against that person, and will cut him off from among his people. And you go back and look at what happened with King Saul.
and and the Witch of Indore. Do you think God has changed on this? Do you think his opinion has mellowed over the years? Leviticus 19:31, do not turn to mediums or necromancers. Do not seek them out, and so make yourselves unclean by them.
I am the Lord your God. Do you think that he's changed on this? He's like, oh, okay, well. Yeah, that was a long time ago. We can back off now.
Is is this what you think Scripture is saying? And it's something that I think Bears a consideration to whether or not we are separating ourselves. The whole point of a called out, the ecclesia, the church, is to be called out. We're to be sought enlighten into that kind of stuff, not participants. We should be separate.
As our God is to be holy. I mean, that's the whole point: being other, separate from this. You know, we're in the world, but not of it. Do you sense that this is what's going on in the church today. that we are clearly separate.
from the pop culture. Or is there any difference? Is the divorce rate different in the church than it is in the world? Is the sexual immorality different? the church than it is the world.
Good questions. Hard answers. And I think this is um Something that I think you're going to find that we're going to be confronted with more and more as these times of ours are racing faster and faster into this. godless uh you remember at the book of j uh judges At the end of Every chapter, it says, What? And every man did what was right in his own eyes.
Hmm. Are we there? Let's talk about it. 866-348 78 84 866 34 TRUTH 866-348-7884. This is Peter Rosenberger.
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Glad to be with you today, 866. 348-7884-866-348 788486634 truth. I'm talking about whether or not the church has lowered the the standards. The church has lowered the standards. We're we see things in our pop culture, but are we a contrast to that or are we just pop culture with a religious flair?
Do we wink at things that God does not? And It I hate to bring it up, but you know, here it is. We say judge not. Lest ye be judged. But we take that out of context.
That was not what that meant, that somehow we don't use any kind of discernment. This is what happened with Chip and Joanna Gaines. You've been following this conversation that's been going on. I don't know if you've been doing that or not, but they brought on to their show. Uh homosexual couple.
And Integrated that into the show, and they're, you know, they have certainly every right to do whatever they want to do, it's their show. But the Christian community that has been a source of their great growth got pretty upset about it. And then the response back was: well, Judge Not. I saw that on social media, judge not. Mm-hmm.
Judge not. What do you mean, judge not? Should we not say anything? Are we not to say anything? Jesus was referring to.
You know, right judgment. Remove the plank from your own eye. Recognize that I'm not doing this because of my opinion. Here's what the scripture says. How can you offer any kind of correction?
Uh what what would if if somebody's going the wrong way, do you want to tell them? I've got an article that's going to hit uh this weekend. You can go out to my website and see it at Peter Rosenberger.com and follow along with all the articles I publish out there. But it's the the title of it, I don't know if you'll like this title or not, I thought it was kind of funny. Leave not thy brain in the narthics.
Leave not thy brain in the narthex And it was based on some things that I'm seeing that we're not using critical thinking. And you ever heard somebody say this? Don't give me doctrine, just give me Jesus. Have you ever heard that? I mean, people say that.
Well, I just want to talk about Jesus, I just want to love Jesus. Don't give me doctrine. I don't want to talk about theology. I don't want to talk about doctrine. Just give me Jesus.
Okay. Who's Jesus? Ask that question.
Well, who is Jesus? And once you have that conversation, now you're back into doctrine.
Well, who is Jesus? What does that mean? It sounds humble when they say it, even noble. Don't give me doctrine, who is Jesus, but you cannot follow. Follow a Savior you refuse to define.
Doctrine isn't a distraction from Jesus. It's how we know, love, and follow Him. That's what Scripture tells us. By the way, I'm not talking about religion, religion is man's construct. Theology.
means the study of God, and we can do that. used to be called the queen of sciences. Theology was. It was taught as a science because it was possible to know God because He gave us that information in His Word. And actually all of creation cries out to the to the existence of God.
Romans 1 is pretty clear on that. That no man has an excuse when you get to heaven, you say, Oh, I didn't know. You think that's going to fly with God? And yet in so many churches, thinking is treated like it's a liability. We have sediment.
Feelings. Feelings outrank scripture in so many places. We've traded catechism. For catchphrases. Things like, God has a wonderful plan for your life.
You ever heard that? God has a wonderful plan for your life. Is that universal? Is that to everyone? It's a good question, isn't it?
You know, you can People also glibly say things like, you know, everything happens for a reason.
Well, Try saying that in an ICU or a funeral home. And you don't want to just blunder into these things and just blather on about these free, like God never gives you more than you can handle. Where's that in Scripture? You ever seen that in scripture? God asked a blind man to see, a deaf man to hear.
A man with a withered hand to stretch it out, a man that was crippled to stand up and walk, and a dead man to walk out of the grave. He asked us to do plenty of things that we can't handle. But he never asked us to do anything he can't handle. You see the difference when we have precision in the way we speak. The world is going to constantly manipulate these things.
Well, did God really say that?
Now, who does that sound like? Did God really say that? Her fair. How how do you know he said that? Who what was the first phr when was that first uh phrase first uttered?
We go all the way back to Genesis. And if you remember, Eve, when the serpent questioned her, she said, She embellished what God actually said. She didn't really even know it, she got it wrong. And and so if If you go back to the scriptures, you're gonna every time bump up against the the world and the culture because the culture doesn't want to do this. But what does the what does the Scripture say?
Thy word have I hid in my Heart. that I may not sin against thee. In other words, if we don't hide this word in our heart, we're going to be pulled into all kinds of things. And we will let our guard down.
Now, we're not sinning accidentally. I can't think of any time where I have sinned accidentally. I may have accidentally hurt somebody's feelings. But still, I'm not sitting Accidentally. Sin is intentional.
Nobody falls into sexual sin, by the way. They dig a hole and they jump in. All right. I mean, let's just be clear on that. Again, we're not using our brains.
We're leaving our brains outside the church and going and we're talking about our feelings. But Scripture is very clear on these things. And and we we we've got to Think differently. Otherwise, we're going to get pulled and stuff saying, well, this is okay. It's like I said in the first block.
You know, it's sure it's satanic, but it's good music, it's got a good beat. You know, I mean, do you hear the ludicrousness of this? And and what did Jesus say in Matthew 22, 37? He said the greatest commandment is to love the LORD your God with all your Heart? Your soul?
And what? You mine. Paul in Romans twelve, two, what does he say? Be ye transformed by the renewing of your Felix? No, he said, renewing of your mind.
to take every thought captive and to test All five. things 1 Thessalonians 5 21 Thinking is not just for theologians. It's obedience for all of us as believers. Let no one deceive you with empty words. Ephesians 5:6.
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits. 1 John 4. One. Test it. Push back.
If this was good enough for the early church, why not us?
Well, we just, we don't, you know, we don't want to cause any problems. We don't want people to get upset. We don't want to hurt their feelings. They're nice people. You know, if somebody's driving the wrong way down the interstate.
Are you going to do anything? Are you going to at least flash your lights? You know if somebody is in danger of something. Do you just let stand by and let it happen?
Well, you know, I don't want to hurt their feelings. Do do they realize how precarious this is? I do this, but let me take it out of this world and put it in maybe just a different construct here. You know, I do a show for caregivers. I talk to caregivers.
That's what I do.
So if I see somebody and I sadly see this a lot, Who is taking care of an aging parent, and the parent is very frail and got oxygen and everything else. but the one pushing the wheelchair. is morbidly obese. How sustainable is that? What what are your thoughts on that?
When you if you saw somebody who was you know Four hundred pounds pushing a wheelchair for somebody who was very, very old and sickly and infirm looking. What are your thoughts? This is not a healthy situation. And one of the things I do is reach out to my caregivers, fellow caregivers, and say, look, healthy caregivers make better caregivers. The healthier I am the better I can take care of my wife.
She's had 98 surgeries. Do you think that she benefits from me being? Fat? and miserable and making poor lifestyle choices and everything else. No.
How can I care for her if I'm not healthy? How can we be salt and light in a world that desperately needs it? that we're called to be obedient to our Saviour, If we're not healthy if we're not Separate from that, if we're not not if we're not participating in these things. You know, if our lifestyle is no different, why should they listen? If we're winking at stuff, why should they care?
Why do they need a Savior? It's hard to call out to a savior you don't think you need. And if the church is not acting any different than the world, Then Why are we how are we going to tell him about a Saviour? Save us from our sins. What do you mean, our sins?
Keith Green wrote about this many, many years ago. Gosh, it's been forty-five years ago. The world is dying in the dark. The Church can't help it 'cause it's asleep in the light. I mean, he was I think he was 28 years old when he died, or or just under 30.
And, um He what a firebrand he was to go out and and proclaim this. And the question is, are we doing the same? Are we willing to do this? Are we willing to draw a line and say no no no we're going to be different. And yeah, you get mocked.
You get made fun of. You get people looking at you. Oh, you're just taking this stuff too seriously. Our Saviour took it pretty seriously. Is the servant greater than the master?
They mocked him. These are the kind of questions we should ask ourselves, and I think it's healthy for us to ask. Good questions. We're going to talk about that when we come back on some good questions. If you want to weigh in on that 866.
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Truth. 86634 Truth. We're talking about. Anchoring ourselves in the word so we can know. You know, you've heard the old story about how people can tell a counterfeit bill because they handle so many real bills.
That's what I've heard that story about bankers and bank tellers. They can always feel counterfeit because they're so used to he uh feeling the real thing. You've heard that story, surely. You've not that I mean to call you Shirley, but you've heard that story. The question is, do we do the same thing?
as believers, do we handle the real deal? Are we pushing ourselves to underthi understand the things of God. As Scripture says, hide his word in our heart that we may not sin against thee, so that we may know what he says. We won't be like Eve, who gets it wrong, when the serpent says, Did God really say, Well, yeah, here's what he said. We won't be this way.
We won't be led down this path. Like King Saul did.
Well, you know, I had to make special arrangements here, you know. We won't be Easily pulled off of these things. This world is, you know, I was talking about a mighty fortress earlier. When Luther wrote this, and though this world with devils filled should threaten to undo us, we will not fear, for God hath willed his truth to triumph through us. The Prince of Darkness, Grimm.
That's how we started off the program today, because the guy that calls himself the Prince of Darkness died yesterday, Ozzy Osborne. And but Luther was writing about the Prince of Darkness. over five hundred years ago, and I promise you he wasn't winking at it. I promise you he was not taking it glibly. He was very serious about it.
Mm-hmm. And though this world with devils filled. And I'm going to ask you. Do you believe that? Do you really believe that?
that this world is filled with devils Should and they threaten to undo us. Do you really believe that? We will not fear. for God hath willed His truth to triumph through us. And once you've established this, Christian, what do you believe?
Then everything is judged by that rubric. Here's what it says: How do you know? And I go back to this article that I've just written that'll be out on my. Website this week. about thinking through these things.
And it was inspired And I have another one about the same kind of thing that it was inspired by Gracie. I think I told you this two weeks ago, but this whole thing in Texas with these floods. And I was in here working in the house. The television was on. there was a newscaster on and she was interviewing a pastor.
And the question was, how can you speak about a good and loving God? When he allows such devastation here with all these children and families that are just devastated with this. And the pastor tried to offer some level of consolation. Uh and it was not Insincere, and it was not necessarily wrong. It was just, you could see he was trying very hard to wrap his mind around this and his heart and bring the scriptures to play.
And then I heard another voice. And it was my wife. And she yelled at the television. I mean, not just. timidly.
She I mean, she barked at it. And she's in her sick bed. Again, she's recovering from 11 straight surgeries, making 98 in her lifetime. Both of her legs are gone. She has drains.
Oh, I had to pull a drain out the other night because it had lost suction, and I was kind of in a panic. And I called her primary care doctor, and she texted me through the whole process of what I got to do, which they did not teach in music school. I promise you that. And it was not cool. But I did it.
But here she is. Dealing with it. tremendous challenges. And she yelled at the television. You know what you know what she yelled?
She yelled something that her friend Johnny Erickson Tata, told her wrote in her book back in the nineties with Steve Estes. and the book was titled When God Weeps. And it's this phrase that has become the anchoring point for all of what Johnny has done, and Gracie has also just embedded this in her heart and she yelled this at the television. because he allows what he hates to achieve what he loves. He allows what he hates to achieve what he loves.
And when I heard this, Gracie yelling that out because that's what anchors her. And all of her she's been suffering like this for over forty years. Her body is as a train wreck. I mean, think about it, ninety-eight operations that I can count. And then she got it from Johnny Erickson Tata, who's next week will be the 58th anniversary of her diving accident that left her.
completely paralyzed from the neck down. Or the shoulders down. And she's had several run-ins with cancer as well. Between the two of these women, there's a hundred years of disability, and both of them will, with everything in them, will Shout out, they'll drive a stake in the ground and say he allows what he hates to achieve what he loves. It's based on the doctrine of divine concurrence.
that what whatever we do, wise or wicked, it still falls under God's sovereignty. And we don't always understand it, and we don't always like it. but as Joseph told his brothers what you meant for evil, God meant for good. Peter said, you know, God foreordained Jesus to go to the cross, and then he looked at those. Men there in front of me said, and this Jesus who you crucified.
The do the doctrine of divine concurrence, And somebody said, well, how can you believe in a sovereign God? And I asked very simply, Imagine if he wasn't Imagine for one moment that there's one Errant. molecule. I don't know why he's allowed Gracie to suffer so much. I don't know why he has chosen to do this.
But here's what I do know. that he who began a good work in her is faithful to complete it to the day of Christ Jesus. That's what the text says. This is what I know. And if we don't bring that level of conviction.
to a world that is floundering on feelings and sentiment, What are we doing? If we are Just basically having a Jesus flair. But acting no different from the world, but putting a Jesus sheen on it, a nice religious sounding. Sheen. Don't give me doctrine.
Just give me Jesus.
Who is this Jesus? And what are you to do with this Jesus? That's a conversation we need to have. We cannot wink at the occult. We cannot wink at the the the rot that is going on in this world.
The church must be a beacon of light. The church must be salt and light to a world that needs both. Are we doing that? Is this something you think that is important? Because I will tell you The head.
of the church. our Saviour. Who is Lord? Whether we make we don't make Him Lord of our life. He's Lord, whether we agree to it or not.
He's still Lord. Every knee shall bow. Every tongue will confess. And he takes this very seriously. And this is what he said to do.
And if we don't do it. We have to answer to him. This is what the text says.
So I I wanted to delve into that today. It was kind of I when I saw that, every it seemed like almost every media outlet had the word Prince of Darkness in it. Almost every single media outlet worldwide talking about because of this man's fame, but they use that phrase, Prince of Darkness. And I thought Oh that every media outlet would declare the king of kings. The Lord of Lords.
This world cannot help but run. to celebrate darkness. It can't help it because that's who it serves. But this program, this network. I've talked to Stu about this many times.
The whole point of the Truth Network is to speak the truth to that darkness. It may not comprehend it, won't comprehend it. It didn't comprehend it when he walked on this earth. But we are not absolved from speaking. The Prince of Darkness Grim Luther said, 500 plus years ago.
But we tremble not for him. And he went on to say Let goods and kindred go, This mortal life also, the body they may kill, God's truth abideth still. And so I leave you with this at Truth Talk Live. Christian Do you believe that? And if so, How would we know?
If so, How does the world know? Christian, what do you believe? These are very, very difficult times for us. We've been lulled into winking at things that we should not week yet. And I'll tell you why we should not wink at it because God doesn't wink at it.
He takes it very seriously.
So seriously, That Christ went to the cross for it. Do we take that seriously? The first church did. The early church did. And they went Many of them too, very difficult.
demises. But they did it with joy. They did it with conviction. They did it with fortitude because they knew. that God's truth abideth still.
That's Truth Talk Live. Hey, you can go check out that article I mentioned and all the other things, my new book coming out next month. Install it at Peterosenberger.com. Thank you for taking the time with me today. I appreciate it.
We'll see you next time. Mm.
