Matt Slick Live

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Here's Matt Slick. All right, welcome to this show. It's me, Matt Slick, and you're listening to Matt Slick Live. It's a nice Friday, Friday the 13th, which we'll talk about a little bit here. And if you want, you can give me a call.

It is easy: 877-207-2276. We have wide open lines. It is a nice Friday, especially here in Idaho, it's nice. I think it's going to rain tomorrow. I love rain, I think rain is such a blessing.

So, for me, it's good. And we'll see how that goes tomorrow, Lord willing. And like I said, if you want to give me a call, the number is 877-2072276. You can also. Give me an email.

Send an email to me at info at carm.org. and put the subject line, radio comment, radio question. One of those. Yeah.

So Long story short, I gotta figure some stuff out here. And um You know, God opens doors in ways you don't think he would.

Well, so one of the things I've been doing around the house is my wife passed away is uh cleaning up. And we've been doing a lot of cleaning up. And uh I found A box of, I guess, or antiques. Antique crystal is clear glass. And uh I'm like, what is this?

And I did a little bit of research and found out that they're worth a little bit. And what I want to do is sell them. Because uh I'm not gonna use them. I I I'm not not into antiques, I'm into modern stuff and Grew up with it, my mom and dad, and the house, and all that.

Okay, so. Um I had to go do some errands, so I put a box of stuff in my car. And then went and um and and found an antiques place.

Well, long story short, I ended up talking to this woman. and she can't use it. She's an antique uh person. And um We got talking, and we got to the car to show her the box of stuff, and she's cautious. And I don't blame her, you know.

I go out, hey, come out in my car outside, you know, that doesn't sell you. And so to kind of ease her a little bit, I said, look, I'm I'm a I'm a reverent amoe. You know, ex-pastor. And that opened the door, and we got talking. Long story short here.

She has leukemia. And the reason I'm bringing this up is for a couple of reasons. One is so you can pray for her, her name's Erin. And she's been suffering and still trying to work, still trying to do things. And so I just looked up Aaron for prayer.

I laid hands on her. and prayed for her. In the store, when her mom showed up, which was great, so she's a Christian too. And they go to a Calvary chapel, which is fine. Uh so uh she was talking to you about her her hubby.

and as a caretaker and what he's having to deal with and with her taking care of her. And I said, Well, you know, I was a caretaker for a while. My wife passed away, and Anyway, long story short, I call him up. and left a message. He called me back, I could I couldn't pick up.

I have to do the radio show. He says, Yeah, I know who you are. I was going to help you move when you're going to Arizona and stuff. And he likes to do apologetics too.

So I'm going to call him after the show and uh and talk maybe whatever. Isn't that interesting how the Lord works on things, through things, to bring to bear what He desires? And we just looked at it and I look at it as just an opportunity from the Lord.

So hopefully God's grace. Be able to witness and to share. They're already believers, of course, but just to encourage. And um Oh, yeah.

So we got Aaron and I got talking and about different churches. And, you know, I said, I'm looking for one. It's been reformed, so it's tough. And she was sweet, you know, but she goes, Oh, you're reformed. I said, yes.

And she says, hmm, so you're reformed. Yeah.

And I said, look, the important thing is that you love Jesus, not that you're reformed or not. And.

So I got a kick out of that. Smiles. I said, yeah, I've been defending it for a long, long time. I said. And, you know, and said, look, I'm the kind of reformed guy.

If you're not reformed, that's okay with me. As long as you have a good fellowship and relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ, that's all that matters.

So. Anyway, just praise God for that. And you know what? It just occurred to me too. Um If anybody out there knows it.

Yeah.

knows anything about getting rid of antiques, not just to give them away. But uh I don't know. These things, I don't even know when they were made. But my my mom and dad had 'em. And so they're, I don't know, 50, 70, 100 years old.

I don't know. And so uh maybe some of you out there are antique lovers and you can You can uh email me at info at carm.org and say, yeah, do this. with them or or whatever it is. And I don't I don't know.

So I could just give them away, but I don't want to do that. I want to get something out of them so I can help pay the bills. 'Cause I've got a lot of bills, especially lately, a lot of stuff going out.

So anyway, there's rambling. I guess ramblation. I like to call it rambling. Ramblation. Hey, if you want to give me a call, the number is 877-207-2276.

If you're new to this show and you're wondering, what the heck is this guy talking about?

Well, I'm a Christian apologist, and that means I defend the Christian faith and do debates and write articles. Written about 5,000 articles on my website. And I'm working on one today. Uh working on one today, uh let's see. The title is um What's the title?

Let's see the title of it could be this. Um the title is Mary cannot hear your prayers, a logical case from Scripture. Yeah.

And that's what I'm working on. And I'm doing what's called a polysyllogism, which is a form of deductive argumentation. And I give quotes of why this is like that. And I have P1, P2, P3, P4, P5, 6, and 7 with conclusion. And then a paragraph and objections answered.

My goal is to use logic and, of course, scripture. To demonstrate that the idea that Mary cannot hear millions of prayers simultaneously spoken in thought. And one of the things that occurred to me while I was writing this syllogism. I was going through the logic of it. I've read it like 30 times.

improving it, working with it. checking on definitions, logical argumentation and things like this. And it occurred to me. It occurred to me. I'm going to tell you a couple of verse I found that's awesome, but also it occurred to me.

If Mary is altered.

So that She could hear millions of prayers. Is she really merry?

Now that's a serious question. Because we are what we are, I'm going to give you a philosophical Logic thing here. I'm going to back up here a little.

So, God is omniscient. and that is a necessary attribute of his essence. It's necessary to what he is.

so we could say, then, that His omniscience is identical to His nature. It's not the totality of his nature, but it's a necessary aspect of what he is. Same with his omnipresence. He's everywhere all the time. It's a necessary attribute of his essence, and we could say very easily it is equal to his essence because it's part of what he is.

So the totality of his characteristics, omniscience, omnipresence, omnisapience, which is all wisdom. These are all necessary parts of what God is, and parts is not a good word, folks, so let me retract that word. Necessary qualities and characteristics of his essence.

So uh what we could say in in human form a necessary aspect of humanity, is fine finitude.

So in humanity, what's ne necessary is uh f uh f uh finitude being finite. And Here's a question. Is granting to Mary the ability to hear millions of prayers simultaneously spoken in thought, particularly thought prayers. I'm going to focus more on that. Does that mean, then, that she's no longer finite?

Now, I understand some of the objections that could be answered very quickly, but this is one of the things I'm thinking about and working through, and I'm going to be thinking about that.

So, if you change, for example, If you were to take the idea of God's omnipresence and remove it from the Christian Trinitarian God, then you no longer have the Christian Trinitarian God. Because his nature is identical with his properties. They're one and the same. These are essential properties.

So if. I gotta think through this. and see if I can form a logical polysyllogism on this. Which is a series of deductives, it's an deductive argument out of sologistic premises. Anyway, um.

If that's the case, then does the property of her existence alter? And if that's the case, she no longer is marrying. You see?

So I stumbled on this just a half hour ago. I wonder. Uh If that's the case. And I have to work on this. to see if it's logically sound and coherent and things like that.

Uh So anyway, that's uh another issue. I'm gonna we're we're working on see I think these things for me That's a good time.

Some guys like to sit in front of a TV with a beer and a bag of chips and say, Throw the ball, throw the ball. Me, I'm like, hmm, polysyllogism. I wonder if you could work with it on the nature of marriage and affinitude, but then it's a functional attribute, subdivision, subcategory of omnipresence to be in a mind, to actualize the thoughts. Yeah.

See, that to me is a good time. Yeah, I know. I got issues. Yeah.

Let's get to Cody from Texas. Cody, welcome. You're on the air. Yeah, you got issues. Yeah, yeah, they should slow, yeah.

My wife always said that. She'd look at me, yeah.

Okay, so what do you got, buddy? Hey man, got a question.

So I kind of post them in the chat and I'll rumble also. Um yeah. And I'll tell you or ask a question. Tell me the origin. of the Marian dogmas.

in Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodox. as far as like the the dates and what those were, uh obviously for the benefit of the audience. Yeah, I'm not sure. And I'll tell you why I'm asking after you do that. I on I don't have it memorized.

In Catholicism, I have a uh an article I've written that goes over the Marian editions, but I don't have them necessarily in the Eastern Orthodox version, because we have the Theotokos Council of Ephesis in 431. We have the perpetual virginity of Mary being taught basically in the 500s.

Now, the schism between the Eastern Orthodox and the Roman Catholic Church in 1054 A.D. Then the question is: the immaculate conception held by Catholicism and the Assumption of Mary, they may not be the exact same thing with Eastern Orthodoxy, so then I have to do a branch tree with related dates.

So that'd be an interesting. An interesting endeavor to try though. I think that would be extremely beneficial in the modern debate circle. If you would do that, man. Because I didn't know that.

And the reason I'm asking is because. I wonder how much of that has been infiltrated because you know, here I am thinking Vatican II. And uh You know, in the Yeah, I'm picking When did feminist did the modern feminist movement have any? Influence on the Marian dogmas being established. That's what I'm saying.

I don't think so. Because feminism didn't come into existence really in the political movement style until the 1900s here in America. Yeah, exactly. I don't know what uh it would be in the uh Mm uh In other countries, I would think it here.

So that's a good question, but. The idea of feminism in a broad perspective is related to goddesshood. and goddesses. Where The idea of the exaltation of women uh to a level of a goddess. If we call that feminism in a very broad sense, then it's very old.

But modern feminism is different.

So, you know, it's an interesting thing. Let's see we got a break coming up does Feminism. have its have its roots. I'm going to write this out. Yeah.

Uh goddesshood.

So hold on then, we got a break, so I'm gonna take a break then.

Okay, calculate the button. If I should be right back after these messages, maybe Cody will still be on, I don't know. be right back please stay tuned It's Matt Slick live, taking a call at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right, and welcome back to the show.

Let's see if Cody is still on. Hey, Cody, you still there? Yeah, I'm still here. All right, buddy. They were saying they couldn't hear me in the chat, so I'll yell.

I'm driving. But the reason I asked, Matt, is because. Rachel Wilson, you know, I've brought up Andrew Wilson for you before. 'Cause he's getting a lot of Prior to notoriety, he is an Eastern Orthodox. He's kind of an up underneath Jay Dyer.

Kinda guy. was Protestant and then became EO, well his wife Rachel Wilson. Um she brought she's been on Also on Joe Rogan and Um Steven Crowder stopped doing interviews. about a book she's got called Occult Feminism. The Secret History of Women's Liberation.

And like, I thought I knew a lot about it, but she had some good source text. from there and it's not a long book, but like There's a lot of spiritism. stuff reference from those things historically. But the reason I asked is because in one of those interviews, She being EO, she ended up bringing Mary up briefly.

So it kind of triggered my mind to think: okay, when were these dogmas established? Because it's been a long time since I studied that. And so I that's why I was asking the question, to see if Maybe feminism out and influence and that also. Yeah, it's a good question. And um That's a good question.

But clearly, your references for the historical dates. Like, uh I mean doesn't lean lend any credence to that. Yeah, there's different kinds of feminism too, so it just depends on the definition. And that's what I do when I write articles. I'll say, okay, here's a definition we need to work with, here's another definition, and it kind of works between them, both of them.

Or, whatever, however, we have, because sometimes different concepts have different definitions at different times to deal with those and see if we can find commonalities and things like that.

So, it just takes me time to research them and then to collate and then to write.

So, I only have that. I'm sorry, go ahead. No, I was going to say, I only have 8,000. I literally just checked. I have, on my list of articles, I have, let me check.

My number is uh hold on. 1,006 articles, just over 1,000. I have 1,006 articles I'm supposed to write.

Well, Matt, you're slacking. What's going on? You got that right. I am slacking. Come on, we got on you, man.

Come on, let's go. I'm working. I'm trying it. Man, it's hard. Uh, and I'm almost 70, so you know, you got to keep going.

I gotta, you know, gotta. Push the envelope. I like what I'm doing. God bless, man. Thank you for addressing this.

All right, man. Good good stuff. I took notes there. Does feminism have its root in goddess phil philosophy? I think it might be interesting.

And then I have another article titled Chronology of Marian Dogmas in Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy.

So well, I tell you watching Rachel Wilson's Rachel Wilson's interview on Joe Rogan is extremely beneficial. in that book, I I'll tell you that. I I can show you. For facts. And in regards to especially the occult, it ties into those things too, but like the facts that we were told are not what we think they are.

If you look at the sorcerers. Yeah, what's your book name? What's the name of the book? It it is called uh hold on. It is called Occult Feminism.

The Secret History of Women's Liberation. Okay. You know, I've heard of that book. Uh Yeah. This has come up before.

And I believe that feminism is deleterious. It's bad. It um And you know, these things like women don't get equal pay for equal work.

Well, yeah, they do. They do. The stats show it. They just don't do the equal jobs. That's all.

Have you ever heard of the movie or the documentary The Red Pill by any chance? Yeah.

Yeah, I've watched it like four times. It's really good. And anyway, it's one of the issues. Go ahead. Regarding that issue, the road bill and like the rows of men and women.

And I find it extremely beneficial. if you can be, you know, hold on to your Christian worldview. and examine the statistics that they give. in regards to the natures of men and men and women, things like You know, what women are attracted to are not necessarily the things that they communicate they're attracted to, things like that. But knowing that they do corroborate biblically.

If you look at statistically, they do, and it's fantastic to see that. But it needs to be addressed from a Christian worldview because pastors are usually, I mean, come on, most churches that do Father's Day. Just literally dump on the fathers about being better men, blah, blah, blah. And then those women. On Mother's Day, can do no wrong, right?

And so that's not beneficial for the marriage or the nuclear family, which is the backbone of our society, the way God created it.

Well, you know, my wife and I, before Pet chats away, of course, but we had somarital problems early on. And for the first five, seven years, it was pretty tough because just a lot of factors. And we went to several different. Uh married counselors. And I gave up.

because it was always bash the man a time. That's all it was. And after a while, I go, why go? Because it's just attacking the men. And it taught me a great deal.

So when I do marriage counseling now, I say to them, you're both going to get what you deserve from scripture. From Scripture. And out of it, I developed, I call it the theology of marriage. And the counseling that is based on the doctrine of the Trinity and how male and female are the created distinctions with distinctive responsibilities. And once you know them as they relate to what God has ordained, then half of the problems disappear.

And the other half tend to relate to communication and expectation failures. And then those I deal with theologically as well. And out of 36, I think it is, couples that I've counseled, every marriage has been saved. Every one of them.

So Well, I remember. I mean, we're talking 10 years ago. I remember you. Uh we we were talking on a Google Hangout. And you referred to reforming marriage and a couple of Doug Wilson books, not necessarily condoning all of Doug Wilson's theology, but like.

Like that one and the and the and the what what was it, something the man? I can't remember the ni the title of it. I don't know. Okay. You know, and you're you're right about that.

Yeah.

You always did talk about that. You talk about men do everything better, and they do. We are the best at everything. But as far as everything goes, including sinning, we're the best at that. we tend to be the masters of success as and failure.

because we're intense individuals. and women are more temperate and more modulated. For different reasons. And we are a little bit more extreme on both ends. We can do very, very incredible things, both good and bad.

That just tends to be the issue. And so if neither one is right or wrong, or better or worse, they're different. And once we can relate those to the idea of the theology of marriage, then it works. And I'm actually thinking about writing a coursework on this. Uh which would take me uh Couple of months, just you know, by itself.

But I have so much to do. Yeah, I know. I want to do a teaching series. That is the main issue of our of our day because now these podcasts have blown up and they're they're huge, and they're addressing it from a pragmatic point of view. You know what I mean?

How to navigate the modern woman now, which involves immorality, right? You know. That's right. In fact, one of the guys in the text says, are men better at making sandwiches? And I'm writing, I think women are ontologically better at it, so we'll see.

Later, big care bumping of sandwiches. All right, buddy, we're out of time. Here's the thing. Button of the hour. It's okay.

I'll talk to you later. God bless, brother. All right. Bring it back to Luke and Peter next. Please write back Catholic messages.

Please, stay tuned. It's Matt Slick Live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right, everyone, welcome to the show. We're having sandwiched conversations in our Rumble account in the text and uh Yeah.

Peace. It's just dumb. A lot of fun. All right, let's get to Luke from Washington, D.C. Luke.

Welcome. You're on the air. Luke, are you there? Luke. I think I know who this is.

We can put him on hold. I'll give him another few seconds here. If not, we'll go to Peter. And I don't hear anything from Luke.

So put them on hold. Let's go to Peter. From Texas, Peter, welcome. You're on the air. Yeah.

Good afternoon, Matt. Thank you, sir, for taking my call. Sure, sure, man. What do you got, buddy?

Okay, so the other day, you mentioned that You would come across over the course of your ministry instances of demonic manifestations, and I wonder if you could. Comment on that in more detail if you're comfortable, especially if there's anything in particular we can learn from what you've seen and experienced. And then if you have time, if you could talk more about Um how you also mentioned demons can attach themselves to objects. If you could just explain further how that works, that would be great.

So, just to verify, you want me to talk to you about the things that I've experienced, right? That are in. Demonic manifestations, right? Right? Yeah.

Okay. I don't get too narcissistic here, 'cause uh But here it goes. These are things that uh are true. And that I've experienced, but I need to start before I was even born. I'll go through this quickly.

My mom used to have dreams of a man coming to her in her sleep. In her dreams, and he was dressed in a black hat, white long-sleeved shirt rolled up to the elbows, black slacks, black shoes. And she would be terrified. She would wake up from her sleep and he would literally walk through the wall and she would watch him do that at go to the feet of her at her bed and she would st he would stare at her. She would wake up my dad.

My dad go turn on the light and he'd disappear. And this happened for a few years. Not every night, but every few weeks. And since he was in the service and they moved to different locations, I moved a great deal, uh twenty-six times before I was twelve.

So she was went to different they went to different houses and on base and things like that in the military. And he would follow.

So I asked my mom about this a great deal. I quizzed her a great deal, and no drugs, no alcohol, no. Postpartum, this or that. It was something that was really going on. My wife, my mom, excuse me, my mom's IQ was genius.

She was a a true genius. Wish I'd inherited that. But at any rate, so uh The last time he showed up was when I was born, and she said that he manifested. She woke up and woke up my dad. He said, What's what are you doing?

And what happened was that this figure went over to the wall where I was in a crib and was just staring at me in the crib. Just watching me. And uh she said, He's looking at Matthew and uh go turn the light on, turn the light on, and then he stopped coming.

Now what does that mean? I don't know. So years later when I was involved in the occult And I still am friends with the guy and I who did that.

So I'm going to go to generically, we would try and contact the dead. Stupidity, but we would try that. And astral projection, trying to do things, energy transference, auras. I was able to see auras for a while. And I told I couldn't do astral projection, but I tried to do a test of my buddy who lived across the street.

I'll put stuff on my desk. We were in high school, late years of high school. And next day, you come over, you astro project, you tell me what I put in my desk, in my room, so that you could verify this, that he could do this. He said that he couldn't that night. I didn't believe in the guy of sure.

Why not? And he said, Because a man was there. What man? A man with a black hat, rolled up white sleeve, long sleeve shirt, black slacks, black pants, wouldn't let him in. I've never told him about that.

And it's just one of the things I never told him because I was so bugged out by it. And uh he described the same thing.

So we got involved in the occult all the more and This is something I saw with my own eyes. As we were doing some stuff, and I saw a blue orb of light materialize to our left. and it grew into the shape of a man. who stood up. And turned his back was to us.

He turned to face us, and when he did, he disappeared. In place of him, a yellow cross materialized. and the cross then moved Across the room and hovered right in front of us and lit the room up, and we got so afraid we just took off. And uh So I've heard my name being called out of darkness. I have um had sensations of things.

And after I got saved, um Uh my friend Dave, who was just here yesterday. Uh We were roommates back in Southern California, and I'm skipping a lot of things, but just get to the point here. We went to a Buddhist convention. And they were both Christians at the time doing research. And uh they're chanting Nomiho Ringakyo, which is an occult stupidity thing they do.

And uh I felt uh on my arms, my forearms, I felt pressure. And felt like fingers holding my arms down, and he and I were sitting next to each other. With one seat in between us. And I said to Dave, I said, Do you feel anything? And he looked at me and said, You mean like hands holding your arms down?

I said yes. And so we got out of there. And uh stuff like this. And we've had instances in the house here where um My daughter's, it's a dead-seen object, but not objects moved, but. shadows and and around the h the uh the hallways and stuff like this.

And so I had to you know do a cleansing of the house and things like this.

So that's a a short version of stuff.

Okay. Yeah, so I mean, of course, you know, the Lord tells us, God tells us in His Word that great is He who's in us in the world. And, you know, for believers, we have. more protection against demonic forces. that unbelievers do, and of course, actively reaching into those areas.

uh can can cause issues. Um But are there any other particular encouragements you would give to believers who might be in a bit of a spirit of fear over these sort of things? Yes, the spirit of fear, the attitude of being fearful of these things, is legitimate and cautionary, and it's wise to be cautious and fearful of them, but don't live in fear. It's like you have a large weapon. Be very respectful of it, but don't be afraid of it.

because it's it's just it's only a tool, but it's not the best analogy. And so the issue here is that if any of you suspect anything like this is going on, The first thing you got to do is pray and ask for God to reveal. And to protect, reveal to you what is happening, not reveal them, but what is going on. You have knowledge of it. And then At the same time, it's called pleading the blood.

It's an old phrase, but it means to say, I trust in the cleansing blood of Christ that redeemed me. And you talk about the actual sacrifice of Christ. And you can even pray out loud. And you never talk to demons. You never talk to the devil.

You never say, Devil, I rebuke you. Don't do that. That's praying to the evil one. You only address your prayers to God and say, Lord, would you please rebuke Him, rebuke the evil one. And And then be ready for a spiritual battle.

It doesn't mean it's going to happen, but just remember this is stirring the spiritual pot. And if you're married, have your spouse be involved. Let your spouse know what this is going on. Watch for your children. There's so many things I could talk about.

And make sure your elders of your church know about this too. If you really think something's going on, if you've been praying and things get worse, then you go talk to the elders. I mean, you probably should do that anyway, but if you really think something's going on, but you definitely want to get the elders involved. If they say stuff like, don't pray, don't do anything, leave it alone, they don't know what they're doing.

Okay, they they don't know.

So, you are supposed to pray about these things. You are supposed to deal with these things in a spiritual, these demonic things, if they're real. Supposed to deal with them accordingly, spiritually, which means prayer.

So, I'm going over this very lightly, but there's a lot more stuff. It's okay. Frame free.

Okay, that's that's all Floyd. Appreciate that. If you have time, if there are no other callers waiting, if you could just talk about. Um The Monic attachment to objects and how that works. And if you have, I guess, examples of that, it's a computer that we can look at.

Yes, now this is less clear in Scripture.

So, uh So objects.

So I'm trying to, okay, I'm remembering some things I had to deal with. There are spiritual attachments we know from the idea of the handkerchiefs that the disciples had, Paul had, you know, in the shadows. Um And so that we know that there's something like that. We are also aware of the golden calf, the asterisk, poles, things like this that they participated in. These objects.

Uh I can't find anything That says that there's a direct object attachment with a demonic force. I don't know of any. of anything like that. Directly like that, but we got a break, so hold on. I'm gonna restart something really fast, and we'll get back to it after the break.

We'll talk a little bit more about stuff.

Okay, so hold on. Hey, folks, we'll be right back after these messages. If you want to give me a call, please stay tuned. And no, we'll be right back. It's Matt Slick Live, taking a call at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, everyone, welcome back to the show. Let's get back with Peter from Texas. Peter, are you still there? Yes, sir.

Alright, so there are verses in the Bible that How many could be used to suggest what appears to be demonic attachments to objects.

So because they're associated with the The occult practice. In Ezekiel 13, starting in verse 18, woe to the women who sew magic bands on all wrists and make veils for the heads of the persons of every stature to hunt down their lives. And then we have Acts 19:19. Many of those who practiced magic brought their books together and began burning them. In Joshua 7:1, they took some devoted things.

This is before in idols' context. Therefore, the anger of the Lord burned against the sons of Israel. And then there's you know we have there's a lot more verses I can go through. But Idols and objects are things that represent false gods.

So when you would bring an idol And I think there's a reference. Let me see if I can find it. A Bible reference. Um Hiding or was it Hiding an idol. That God knew about.

That God. I remember something in the.

Okay, let's see if you can find that. And so these idols have something to them. They represent the thing And when you have that idol, That's, well, ultimately, it's a demonic connection. Because you're using it for that.

So There's Rachel she hides Laban teraphim in her camel saddle and sits on them, deceiving her father. Joshua seven twenty one, Achan hides the devoted things concealed in the earth inside my tent. Isaiah 29:15. Woe to those who deeply hide their plans from the Lord. That's different.

And.

So it looks see so from these we have inferences. that God doesn't want you to even have these objects.

So the question then becomes: if you have objects that are specifically used for that kind of stuff. Then, is there a demonic attachment to them? We can't prove yes, we can't prove no. At this point, we can go by experience and as long as it doesn't contradict Scripture. I remember years ago when I was involved with a gentleman who was working in Satanism to get rid of it, to battle it, to war against it.

And the He called me up and he said, Look, I need a backup. I want you to go meet me out in the parking lot. We had this figured out. I was had a I had a really fast car at the time. and it was this open parking lot like 10 o'clock at night.

in a grocery store area, and it was very open. and I would be at one end and he'd be at the other end and someone was to meet him. And give him a magic wand that was used in some occult practices. because they wanted to get rid of this object because and they thought there were some attachments to it. He said he'd take it.

And so they didn't know if it was they were setting him up or not.

So we did this and we had our phones or actually we didn't have phones at the time. And I would flash my lights if a car or somebody started approaching him from behind. And we were both there for a half hour, nothing happened. And so we don't know what's going on. But see, these kinds of things are the things that I reflect on.

I remember when I was doing the radio here in the Boise area, I got a call from someone who said that they had this lamp. That they thought was an attachment. It was given to them. And when it's inside the house, Doors open and closed, creaks and noises and poundings, but when um When it was outside the house, it didn't happen. And they would put it in the house and it would happen outside the house.

So they kept it outside.

Now, is that proof of anything?

Well, it's not proof. Was I there when all this happened? No, but they were all very nervous. They're Bible-believing people, and they said, We're not getting that thing in the house again. What do we do with this thing?

I said, You burn it. Destroy it, you know, burn it. And So, is this proof? No. I don't see anything in Scripture that says this is what happens, or there's a direct demonic attachment.

I see that these things are used in demonic contexts, and it seems to be that it it there's something related to their presence.

So when we say demonic attachment, what does that mean? Which is a whole other question. Is there a demon sitting on top of a lamp wherever you take the lamp it goes? Or does this mean that this is a door that was opened up? Like talisman or objects that are used in occult practices that you know are meant there, and they can be typically used as doors.

Like Ouija boards have been used in occult practices along with pendulum movement. That's a whole other thing I won't get into. And so See what I'm saying here? I hope you do. It's difficult to absolutely nail it down biblically, but it seems to be supported by what the scriptures say and also by the experiences we have as well.

Okay. Right. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean anecdotally I guess it would also Explain my ill feelings any time I've stepped into a place like the Roman Catholic Church for funerals or whatnot, and you just get that heavy feeling. And it's not a good feeling. And, you know, you pray, and occasionally I've had to step out, you know, and in the middle of. Whatever was going on, just to get a breather and be like, hey, you know, just kind of feel yourself up again.

So I guess I would I would agree. Laying out a bit. Oh yeah. When I've gone into Catholic churches, it's like going into the enemy's territory. It feels odd.

And when I first moved here to Idaho, I could sense subjective, I sensed a spiritual blanket here. and it was because of the prom prominence of Mormonism and Catholicism. That's what I believe in.

So yeah. Yeah, it's a tough, tough thing, and I try and be as biblically minded as possible. ANECDOTES Right. supportive And as long as they don't contradict what is in Scripture, then we can carefully move forward with them, but just don't build too much on them.

Okay. Right. Yeah.

Right. Okay, well thank you Matt. All of that was really insightful and appreciate it as always. All right. Well, God bless.

God bless. Interesting talk. Thank you. All right. All right, now let's try one more time.

Luke from Washington, D.C. Luke, are you there? Yes, I'm sorry. I was muted. I was waiting, waiting, waiting.

So somehow. All right, so what do you got, buddy? What's up, ma'am? Uh Uh today I have Psalm eighty two eight. Arise, O God, judge the earth, for thou shalt inherit all nations.

Which is God? It's Yahweh. It's Yahweh. Two. Yeah, we um Some people said the most high god, Elohim, So it But No, it's just you know.

Yeah, we have the true guard motor. No, no, no, it's just Yahweh. There's only one God, Yahweh. He's a Trinity. And it this is uh It's just different titles.

Just talking about that. Psalm eighty three, eighteen, that that men may know that you whose name alone is Yahweh, the most high over all their what is that? Yeah.

It's just the same thing. It's just, they have different names and titles of God. That's all. That's all it is. Why there's a different names?

Most high God, Elohim. Yeah, with different names. Because God is He's the Most High, He's loving, He's compassionate. There's all kinds of things like this.

So Elohim is just simply the name God, or not the name, but the word God. Yahweh is his name. And Adonai means Lord or Master.

Now he's called, for example, El Shaddai, God Almighty, El El Yan, God Most High. He's called the everlasting God, the God who sees, the mighty God, the gracious God. The Lord will provide, the Lord who heals, the Lord is my banner.

So you have different things like that that are attributed to him because they're demonstrating characteristics. Because in that culture, The name of something represented that something. It's like Indian, American Indian names. you know, running bear.

Okay. Or a dancing wolf, or whatever. These represent some characteristic about that individual, which is why they get the name, and this is what's going on. God's name, and the titles represent his character in different forms.

Okay. And one more thing, John ten thirty five. John 10.35, yes, you're right. Yeah.

Yeah, if we call them gods.

So Jesus points out that what is that God's Yeah. This is a quote from Psalm eighty two, verse six. What Jesus is doing in John ten, thirty through thirty five Yeah. Is he is Expressing judgment upon the Jews.

So hold on. In Psalm eighty two, it's an imprecatory psalm that is done in the style of a court. There's a judgment. God stands in his own congregation amidst the rulers. He he is complaining.

About the unrighteous judges in Israel who had the power of life and death. This is a mocking exaggeration of their power and their ability, and it's a condemnation, it's an imprecatory psalm. It says In Psalm 82, 7, Nevertheless, you will die like men and fall like any one of the princes. Arise, O judge, O God, judge the earth.

So the writer is condemning the unrighteous judges and asking God to destroy them.

So when Jesus is referencing this, he's doing a pun, a play on words here. He said he they picked up stones again to kill him, and he showed many good works in the Father. Why are you trying to kill me? No no, not for blasphemy, but because you're claiming to be God. In verse thirty four he says, Is it not written in your law?

I said ye are gods. He's quoting Psalm eighty two. The Jews knew the context of Psalm eighty two, that it was an imprecatory psalm of condemnation of the unrighteous judges, the unrighteous religious leaders. And so he's pointing out, he's attributing that to the Jews here. If he called them gods, he goes on.

He's playing, he's using logic, he's forcing them to think. If he called them gods to whom the word of God came when the scripture cannot be broken, he's calling them gods, but they're not actually gods. But he's referencing that, right? Do you say of him who the Father sanctified and sent into the world that you're blaspheming because he says he's the Son of God? Because they're claiming that he's claiming to be God by saying he's the Son of God.

That's what the whole context is. But they don't believe that he is. Yeah, he's the Son of God. He's God in flesh.

So he's showing them the scriptures in twofold effect to judge them and to have them answer: well, wait a minute, I'm just the son of God. Why is it a problem? Because you're called gods. It forces them to do exegesis theologically, and they don't want to do that with him because he's too good. He knows what they're going to say and do.

And he knows. And they they just keep quiet. They don't want to do that. Therefore they were seeking all the more to seize him, They want to kill him, but he eluded their g grasp. That's what's going on there, okay?

So the Jewish leaders, they think that Yahweh could be called God. But Jesus spoke this uh in response to the Jewish leaders. They accused him of blasphemy because he claimed to be son of God. Right, because in the context Son of God meant he was equal to God. You go to John 5:18.

Calling God his own father, making himself equal with God. That's what the term meant in the sense of Christ, and what he was claiming. In John 8:24, earlier in the book, he says, Unless you believe that I am, you'll die in your sins. In John 8:58, before Abraham was, I am. They understood what he was saying.

He's claiming to be God in flesh. They're trying to condemn him. He condemns them back with the impergatory psalm of Psalm 82. And buddy, we're out of time. Here's the music, okay?

Thank you. All right, brother. And sorry, Germaine, callback Monday, the biblical style of marriage. I should do a course on that. May the Lord bless you, and by His grace, we'll be back on there tomorrow.

I hope you have a great weekend, everybody. May the Lord bless you. And we'll talk to you on Monday Lord Morris. Come on. Another program powered by the Truth Network.