Rich White Liberals Are Actually Intolerant Racists

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And hello, America. Welcome to the Todd Starns Radio Program. We are coming to you live from West Coast Baptist College this week at the annual Leadership Conference. Thousands of people from all over the country gathering here in the beautiful Antelope Valley, the high desert of Los Angeles County. And we are going to be talking to a lot of folks here in California this week on the program as we start the fight to take back our country and to restore traditional American values in this great nation.

We've got a great show lined up for you, and I want to initially give you our telephone number. If you'd like to call in and join the conversation today, 844-747-8868. That's 844-7777. 747-8868. And last night I had a chance to address members of the freshman class at West Coast Baptist College and spent a lot of time taking questions from students.

And I was incredibly impressed with the knowledge, the political knowledge of these students. They are engaged in what's happening in the political process. And I was especially intrigued by their enthusiasm, not so much for Donald Trump, but for Ron DeSantis. Just about every student who asked a question was asking about Ron DeSantis and whether or not he planned to run for the White House. All of them believe that he would make a great presidential candidate.

So we'll get into that a little bit later on as well.

Meanwhile, the situation in... In Martha's Vineyard. Ladies and gentlemen, the great invasion of 2022 will certainly go down in the annals of American history as one of the most traumatic moments in the nation when rich white liberals were confronted with the fact that they might have brown neighbors. I know people were triggered. It was an incredibly traumatic moment for the people there in Martha's Vineyard when the 50 illegal aliens showed up looking for food and shelter.

And by the way, to our knowledge, Barack Hussein Obama, who has that beautiful multi-million dollar 10-bedroom mansion right there in Martha's Vineyard, did not offer a single brown person refuge in his mansion. And neither did Oprah.

Now, I don't know what to make of all of that, but that's just the reality of the situation. Regardless, the rich white liberals were so aggrieved that they summoned the military to come in and immediately repel the invading horde of illegals, and now they are residing at Joint Base Cape Cod. But the fallout from all of this continues. As a matter of fact, Ken Burns, the guy who did the Civil War documentaries for PBS, he says that the act of sending the illegals from Texas and Florida to Martha's Vineyard, he compared that, likened that to Nazi Germany. Take a listen, cut nine.

You can use a human life that is as valuable as yours or mine or Lynn's and to put it in a position of becoming a political pawn in somebody's authoritarian game. This is the. Coming straight out of the authoritarian playbook. This is what's so disturbing about DeSantis: to use human beings, to weaponize human beings for a political purpose. It's like when somebody disagrees with him in Florida, like the Walt Disney Company.

He punishes them.

So let me see if I understand Ken Burns correctly. Sending people to one of the wealthiest zip codes in America is now a form of punishment.

Now, the illegals, they were interviewed by Telemundo, and the folks over at Telemundo actually told us that the illegals were very happy to go to Martha's Vineyard. They were having a great time. And why would they not want to go to Martha's Vineyard so they could personally shake the hand of Barack Hussein Obama at his multi-million-dollar 10-bedroom mansion? Why would you not do something like that? But for some reason, the liberals seem to think that sending illegals.

To Martha's Vineyard is an act of just heinous behavior. And now you have Ken Burns comparing it to Nazi Germany. By the way, Ted Cruz says this should not be the end of all of this. He says that every day, every day, we need to be sending more and more illegals to Martha's Vineyard, cut 11. To put it in perspective, Martha's Vineyard is a town.

Its population is about 17,000. The median home price is over a million dollars. Let's compare it to To Del Rio. Del Rio is a wonderful town in Texas. It's down on the Rio Grande Valley.

It has a population of between 30 and 35,000. In one single day at Del Rio, there were 15,000 illegal immigrants, mostly Haitians, crossing illegally in one day. As you know, I went down to the bridge and I videoed over 10,000 illegal immigrants under that bridge. Martha's Vineyard lost their mind with 50, and the little town of Del Rio and towns all up and down the Rio Grande Valley are dealing with hundreds, are dealing with thousands. Let me say, Sean, I commend Greg Abbott for sending the immigrants to these blue cities.

I commend Ron DeSantis for doing so, and they need to do more. Tomorrow, Martha's Vineyard needs a hundred. The next day, they need 200. The next day, they need a thousand. DC says it's a crisis to get 6,000.

They need 10,000. They need 100,000. They need 500,000 because Joe Biden has allowed 4.2 million people to come in illegally. And I know these rich billionaires say, well, gosh, you people just let them eat cake.

Well, how about having the Obamas Host these 50 people in their 12 million dollar compound and Martin Vineyards. No, no, no, none of them. They got 30 acres. They could literally set up exactly. Complaining about this and saying that Abbott and DeSantis were heartless.

And my response was: Great! The Kennedys are offering to host these 50 illegal immigrants at their compound in a Hyannisport. What utter and complete hypocrisy! And it shows that they simply don't care. This is all politics.

It's all politics, and we've been talking about this. Radio program. And I think that's a great idea to send all of these illegals to the Kennedy compound at Hyenasport. They've got plenty of space over there, plenty of room. They've got plenty of room on the massive compound of Barack Hussein Obama.

So why not just, as Senator Cruz said, let's continue to send busload after busload after busload of illegals? Because the people in the border states do not deserve to have to live in fear every single day of their life. They don't deserve that. They deserve better. And again, if Joe Biden is not going to secure the border, then every city in America, and especially the sanctuary cities, should be forced to suffer, just like the people in Del Rio, just like the people in Eagle Pass.

By the way, we have a story up on our website, and it's really tragic. There is a great barbecue joint called the Wagon Wheel in Eagle Pass. It's been owned by the same family for 25 years, the Price family. And it's one of those traditional Texas barbecue joints where you go in, you order your brisket by the pound, they put it on a big tray for you, you get the white bread, you get the pickles, and you have a good meal. No frills.

Those people Have had to sell their business because since February they've been broken into five times. Five times. Yeah. And the owners are saying the problem here. Is all of the illegal aliens coming in?

Their barbecue joint was literally ransacked by the illegals coming in. And they say there's nobody to give them help. There's so many people coming across that border every single day.

Now, you didn't see this story on the national news, except for maybe Fox. Yeah. And you're not going to see this story on the National News because people like the Price family down in Eagle Pass don't matter to the Democrats. Keep in mind, the Democrats really don't care about anything other than power. That's what this is really all about.

But nobody showed up to cover the crisis in Eagle Pass, where you have tens of thousands of illegals crossing the border, inundating a town that is actually smaller than Martha's Vineyard. And by the way, the folks at Martha's Vineyard say they can't accommodate these 50 people. Over the summer, their population swells to over 100,000. And you're telling me they can't find a place to put these illegals? Come on.

No, the problem is rich white liberals get triggered when the brown people show up and they're not bowing the grants or they're not serving their meals or making their beds or cleaning their toilets. That's the real problem in Martha's Vineyard. The rich white liberals are racist. Nobody wants to talk about that. But again, the Democrats seem to believe the only people that deserve sanctuary in America are the illegal aliens and not the American barbecue pit masters.

So, look, we're going to take a break here. Ted Cruz, do you agree with him that we need to actually ramp this up? And I hope the Republican leadership, I hope they're listening today. This cannot be a political stunt. We have got to inflict as much pain in these liberal cities as has been inflicted on the border cities.

And when that happens on a consistent basis, you are going to see more people voting and supporting Republicans. 844-747-8868. That's our toll-free telephone number. That's 844-747-8868. You can also leave us a message on our social media platforms.

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Folks are very upset, very upset over reports that many soldiers are having to survive On food stamps. And as a matter of fact, military leadership knows that. That's a lot of these soldiers are not able to make ends meet based on whatever meager salary they're receiving from the military. And a lot of lawmakers are now very upset that soldiers, men and women who are putting their lives on the line so that we can be free, are now having to use food stamps just to feed their families. But beyond that The idea that We've got to use food stamps to feed our fighting men and women.

Meanwhile, We're giving billions of dollars, billions of dollars. In student loan debt, we're just writing all of that off. For these deadbeat college students. Congressman French Hill called the whole situation crazy. He says the the Biden administration has gotten the National Defense Authorization Bill through th the Senate, not yet.

One of the things they voted for is a pay increase and benefit increases. Yeah. But what we've got instead is $560 billion of student loan debt that's going to be wiped off the books.

So we're going above and beyond to take care of these deadbeat college kids who refuse to pay their loans, refuse to pay back what they owe.

Meanwhile, you have these men and women in uniform. that are barely able to make ends meet. Congresswoman Nancy Mace is the first female graduate of the Citadel. And she said the whole thing is insane. She says, quote, We're leaving early this week because Democrats can't get it together on a spending bill to find money to pay to feed our troops.

It's crazy. And why is that, ladies and gentlemen? Why is that? 844-747-8868. That's 844-747-8868.

I know we have a lot of people around the country listening to this program, and you have a son or a daughter in the military. Maybe you are in the military. And I'm curious what you guys are doing to make ends meet. It's not like someone that's serving in the Army can go out and work a second a job at the Chick-fil-A drive-through. You're just not able to do that.

Congressman Dan Masseur of Pennsylvania, a Republican, said the people that are in our military are protecting our country, putting their lives at risk. They're making great sacrifices. On the same note, if individuals who are in the armed fur services choose to go on the SNAP program, that's up to them.

Well, what does that mean? I mean, some of these people are just not able to feed their families based on what the government is paying them. Seems to me That That the members of the U.S. military should at least be making more money than members of Congress. Seems to me their job is just a little more important than figuring out how to appease the lobbyist up on K Street.

That's all I'm saying here. 844-747-8868. That's our toll-free telephone number. That's 844-747-8868. By the way, a lot of you are reaching out to us through our shout-out app.

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He has transported hundreds of thousands, millions of illegal aliens, populating them now, putting many of them in red states. He's happy to put them in red states where it's not the rich people's concerns, it's the little people's concerns. You know, all of the folks on Martha's Vineyard happily voted for Joe Biden.

Well, they can live with the consequences of the lawless policies that right now the people of McAllen, the people of Laredo, the people of Eagle Pass, the people of Texas are feeling the price for this. And Biden still won't change. Instead, what does he do? He lies to the American people. He sends Karine Jean-Pierre out to claim nobody is crossing the border illegally.

It's a flat-out lie. And all of the docile little sheep in the press room, they baa like sheep. And they ignore the fact that she's lying to the American people. The media needs to cover her lies, and this outrage needs to stop because you know what? These blue governors and mayors are right, it is a crisis.

But it's not just a crisis when it's the millionaires who are inconvenienced. And it's not just that. It's the amount of taxpayer money that's going to house and feed and clothe the illegals.

Meanwhile, you have members of the U. S. military that are being forced to use food stamps to feed their kids. Is that right, ladies and gentlemen? I don't think that's right.

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And we'll be telling you more about the Leadership Conference. And we've been meeting our listeners from all over America here at the conference. I want to go to the phones here real quick: 844-747-8868. John from Georgia, WDUN, our great affiliate there. John, I understand you want to weigh in on this military situation.

Uh yes, sir. I'm a retired major from the United States. Cool Air Force. And uh Having young troops go out on food stamps, make ends meet. Is that anything?

And new. I used to counsel Staff sergeants, E5s, and below, who were married and possibly had a child. On what they could do Where they could get. Work and after their shift in the Air Force. to help make ends meet.

Yeah. From nineteen eighty to 1996. when I was doing that.

So to say that this is something that's brand new is completely false.

Well, no, John, I'm I'm with you on this and I for as long as I can remember, it's been a big issue. And I'm why is it I mean, as a veteran, why is it that we are not taking care better care of our troops?

Well, it's Yeah. you know, fire and forget. You know, there's an uneffective. Saying that we use with regard to the Veterans Administration and other places like that. If you're retired or you're Separated.

You're a second-class citizen to begin with. And you know the the politicians Of the day, be they Democrat or Republican, I don't care. They talk big game and then they go back and just. Forget it.

Well, John, all I can say is it angers me that we're taking care of the illegal aliens. We're housing, feeding, clothing them, giving them the best health care known to mankind. We are forgiving all of this student loan debt, and we're leaving the military to just to hang out there and telling them, well, just go and you're going to be able to feed your family on the government cheese. That's just unacceptable in my book. John, gotta run, appreciate the call.

If you're on hold, hang tight. 844-747-8868. I want to welcome here in our beautiful studios that we have set up here at West Coast Baptist College a great American patriot. He is one of the few conservatives serving in the California State House, California Assemblyman Tom Lackey, representing the 36th District. Assemblyman, welcome to the show.

Thank you, Todd. It's an honor to be here. And we had a chance to have lunch yesterday. You're here part of this great conference they're doing at West Coast Baptist College. Baptist College, it impresses me that there are so many people here in this part of California that have decided we are going to stay, we are going to fight, we're not packing up the U-Haul just yet.

Well, I've spent the majority of my life here. I I got my education outside of the state, but other than that and some missionary work, I don't intend to ever leave California. I love it. I love what it o it offers people, and the culture is moving in a direction that's very troublesome, though. What is it you mentioned that we were talking about that at lunch yesterday?

Talk about where the state is heading right now and why you were so troubled. Yeah, what is happening is there's been a uh chipping away at uh The Judeo-Christian values and all truth. I mean, we're blurring. The definition of gender, even. I mean, something so basic to the family structure, right?

And the family has been under assault for some period of time, and that's the basic function of society. Once the family starts to erode, we've really lost our vision. When you look at the political structure here, I'm trying to figure out how it gets fixed. It just seems to me, based on how much people are paying in taxes here, the fact that you can't even water your grass, the rolling blackouts, it seems to me people would be running in droves to the Republican side of the aisle.

Well, because you have all sorts of influencers that are very deceptive and very, very skilled, in all truth. And I think it's unfortunate. And I think people are starting to realize now the crisis that we find ourselves in. And I think there's hope for those of us who share these values to be able to chip away because it's not going to happen overnight, the shift. And because it didn't happen overnight that we got into this ugly situation, but we can chip back.

Looking back at the recall with Gavin Newsome and Larry Elder, were you surprised that Elder got as much support as he did? I really wasn't that surprised. And and in all truth, I think that circumstances could have even been better. But I think that there's What they call out here in California the Trump factor that really motivates. the other side.

And that was unfortunate. And I I think that that's what happened. That and I think the governor was very vulnerable to be even recalled. But unfortunately when Larry Elder stepped up they saw that there was a real threat to leadership and yeah, they they showed up enough to beat him. Tom Lackey is in the California Assembly.

He's been serving for eight years. Tom, we are also talking about faith, and you mentioned that you were a missionary for several years. BYU and Oregon. It was a pretty heinous thing that happened during that football game as Oregon fans chanted a very profane slur against people of the Mormon faith. I want to get your reaction to that.

Yeah, and as as you do know that uh the the Mormon faith They are Christians. I know some people that's a debatable issue, but they believe that they are Christian because I happen to be one. And so I could tell you that Jesus is our. Our focus, and we know that he is the only way to salvation.

However, That's why they're under attack. because they do uh represent uh a a form of Christianity and uh Judeo-Christian values are directly under assault. They see them as a threat. And uh th the profane way th with which they attack them was so inexcusable that could you imagine if uh that crowd was shouting insults towards Black Lives Matter or some other organization, some other group or Muslims. Or Muslims, exactly right.

It it's It's just unfortunate that uh the visceral um Attacks that are happening within our society, the right versus left, are really dividing the country. Or if they would have shouted, what's your pronoun? That would have, I mean, they would have shut down the university, defunded it. There would have been marches in the streets. President Biden would have come out and given some sort of a national address.

But you guys are, you know, again, fair game. That's it. It's fair game. But then, just a couple of weeks prior to that, you had that crazy situation with the BYU volleyball team with the allegations of racist slurs. Of course, everybody went with that, and then it turned out not to be true.

And you didn't get as much news coverage after it was investigated, and the video evidence clearly showed that no one in that crowd uttered a single racist word. Yeah, that follow-up was a whisper at best. And those are the realities. You know, This whole woke culture is very intolerant. And they they claim that that they're pro that they're promoting tolerance when in fact they're doing just the opposite.

Tom Lackey here from the 36th Assembly District in California. Tom, what is it going to take? What are the Republicans doing? What conversations are you guys having to move that ball forward, to start the effort to retake the state? First of all, they need not to be ashamed.

I mean, as scripturally profound as that term is, it's very, very true. And I think what's happened is because the control of the media has even intimidated a lot of those who are in leadership positions. And I think it's shameful. And we need to not be ashamed, and we need to stand up for what we know to be true. And we do believe it will resonate if we are smart and if we can appeal.

To our young people in a way that captures their emotion. Yeah, there's, and by the way, NBC News has a brand new poll out, and it's pretty remarkable. These are historic numbers from what we're being told. This is from NBC News polling. It shows that the Republicans have the largest edge over Democrats ever in their polling history on the economy, on crime, and on immigration.

And even among Hispanics, you're seeing a number of Hispanics embracing the Republican Party nationwide. Are you starting to see that here in California? Yeah, I will tell you right now that public safety is not a partisan issue. And everybody wants to feel safe, and without safety, you really don't have liberty. And so that is really a winning issue.

And it happens to be, I mean, I was a California highway patrolman for almost 30 years of my life.

So I think I understand public safety, and I'm a vice chair of the public safety committee, and it's more the offender safety committee than it is public safety committee. And we're working very diligently to kind of shift the paradigm. And of course, San Francisco, it's very interesting the dynamic there. They were able to recall their district attorney. A survey last week from the San Francisco Chronicle, a third of the city residents say they're ready to move.

They're ready to abandon San Francisco.

Well, I think that Mr. Gascon better be watching his back because I think that his time is very short as well. There were some organizational problems with the recall effort, but I think had that gone to a vote, he would have been gone too.

So I think California will lead the country in this issue of shifting back towards real sensible reform. And, of course, Gascon is the Los Angeles County district attorney. Yeah, disastrous one. No doubt about it. And I will say this as I was driving up, coming in through some of those areas, downtown Los Angeles, it looked like I was in a third world country.

It's regrettable. It's just unbelievable.

Well, we really appreciate you coming in.

Some time hanging out with us today, and the whole country is really curious about what's happening out here in California. And I certainly do hope that Republicans are going to be able to make some headway in the midterms. Yeah, my plea would be to anybody who's listening: if you're not a registered voter, I mean, we have less than 50 percent of people of Christian values that are even registered to vote. That's one reason why we're getting shellacked out here. And we really need everybody to please register and please.

Show up and learn who the candidates are and not be ashamed. All right. Tom, it was really enjoyed getting to know you over lunch yesterday. I enjoy meeting you, Todd. Your reputation is quite remarkable, and we appreciate you.

Well, you're kind to say that. Tom Lackey, ladies and gentlemen, California Assemblyman from the 36th District. Folks, we've got to take a break here. When we come back, right to the calls, we've got Winston-Salem on the line. We've got Richard in Maine.

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God, what amazes me is a township like Martha's Vineyard has the power. to call out the National Guards to get this done that quick. Right, so it's okay for them to be down there in Texas and wherever they're coming across the border at, but it's not okay. for them to be anywhere else given The situation? All right, that was Lori listening to us on our flagship station, KWAM in Memphis, and Ricky listening to us out in Arkansas.

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Well, let's get right back to the phones here: 844-747-8868. David in North Carolina, listening to us on the great WSJS. Hey, David, what's on your mind today? Yeah, I'd like to discuss the uh soldiers getting food stamps for their pay. And I know I appreciate you putting me on first line like that because I am unpopular with your opinion, but.

There it goes. They took the job. They took the responsibility, they signed up for it. That's the pay they get.

Now you also have these guys that are in the service making money and living in five hundred dollar thousand dollar homes in my neighborhood.

So There's good, they're bad with every job.

So, well, David, look, again, I don't know who's living in your neighborhood, and they may or may not have a spouse that's, you know, if you're making five if you're living in a half a million-dollar house, for example, the average Army officer would be hauling in roughly about $83,000 a year. But if you're talking about someone who is enlisted, say a private in the Army, they're making $21,420 a year. That's what their pay is. Yes, and with every job, you start off at the bottom and work your way up.

Well, there's not much wiggle room to work your way up. But again, I don't believe it's the so I mean the soldiers may be complaining about this, but I think the people that are raising the concerns here are lawmakers who are wondering why our fighting men and women should have to exist on government cheese, especially when we're footing the bill for all these illegal aliens, not to mention forgiving all of this student loan debt.

Well, that's true, but so are Walmart workers living off government assistance? Many jobs do not pay good. Yeah, but Walmart yep, Walmart's not funded by our tax dollars. Again, we're talking about the U. S.

military. Let me ask you a question, David.

So given the choice, would you rather forgive the student loan debt? Would you rather take care of the illegal aliens? Or would you rather use all that money to give our fighting men and women a pay raise? D. None of the above.

Really? Why why and I'll add another one in there. Or would you rather take the billions of dollars we're sending to the Ukrainians and use that money to take care of our fighting men and women? Mm. That's a totally different area because that is a different country fighting for its freedom.

Fight well, what do you think we're doing here, David? We're fighting for our freedom. No, they're doing their job. And what is that? What is the job of the Army?

What is the job of the military, David?

Well, really, not much. They do a lot of training, but not actually go out and do any work. I mean, how many wars are we fighting right now? Yes. The reason why we're not fighting wars right now is because of Donald Trump.

But David, that's ludicrous. The fact of the matter is that we have the greatest fighting force on the planet so that we can be a free people. And we also have the most expensive fighting forest on the planet.

Well, the money is And that may be the case, but the money is not going to the money is not going to the men and women who are putting their lives on the line, and I got a problem with that. David, gotta run. Appreciate the call. Let's go to Sydney in Lancaster, California. Sydney, what's on your mind today?

Hey, Todd, good morning. The last caller, David, got my blood pressure really high. I don't think he's ever served or done anything for the military, for our country. For him to say that the military is not doing anything, they're just doing their job What has you done for our country? Um But let me go back to the main topic where I called.

Um it is it is unfortunate. that are fighting men and women. They have these food spans, DVT to support their families. When I was active duty, I used the WIC program here in California. the women infant and child programs, you know, to help with the male two COS groups and stuff like that.

When my daughters were younger, but at the same time, I work as a delivery driver, even this. even before these food delivery apps were a thing. You know, I worked part time in the bowling alley. work part-time as an insurance inspector I had to do what I had to do to provide for my family. But I also understand that a lot of our soldiers and marines They deploy so much that they are not able to do what I did when I was serving.

Sydney, we're going to have to leave it there, my friend. We're coming up on the top of the hour, but God bless you, and thank you for serving our great nation. Folks, David in North Carolina, WSJS says, hey, look, you guys know what you're signing up for, and he doesn't believe you guys in the military deserve a pay raise. What say you? 844-747-8868.

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And we're just having a good old time out here. And we'll be talking more about that with the president of West Coast Baptist College, Dr. Paul Chappell, in just a little while. 844-747-8868. That's our toll-free telephone number.

If you'd like to call in, that is the number to call. And of course, our website, ToddSterns.com, we have some great stories for you to see there on the website. I want to go to the Patriot Mobile newsmaker line. One of my favorite people in the world and one of the most brilliant minds that I know. He is a friend.

He was. Incredibly good to me and helped me through my time at Fox News channel. And he's an incredible author and the brother of El Rushbo, David Limbaugh. David, good to have you back on the show. God, thank you.

Great to be here. How are you? And I'm doing well. And normally I would be say greetings from downriver because you're just you're up north of us on the Mississippi River, but you're in God's country. Yes, sir.

And well, we'll have to get together. It's not that far. We're going to have to do that. We'll break ribs together. Yeah.

There you go. David, and I want to talk about how the family's doing in just a moment, but I'm so excited about this new book that you have out. And your columns are just so incredibly insightful. Your Twitter feed is just off the charts great. And now you've got this book, which is really the compilation of a series of books you've written.

This one called The Resurrected Jesus: The Church in the New Testament. Tell us about the book. Yes, well this is very exciting for me because I co wrote this with my daughter, Kristen, Last name Bloom, married name Bloom. And uh we this is uh the last book, Christian book I did was Jesus is Risen, which covered the book of Acts, which is the history of the early church, as you know, and the first six of the Apostle Paul's. Epistles.

This one. Is the last six, seventh of Paul's epistles, the prison epistles. Colossians, Ephesians. Philemon and Philippians. And the three pastoral epistles.

1st and 2 Timothy and Titus.

So we go through chapter and verse. paraphrase or verbatim. All those verses in those seven Letters, seven books in the Bible. We add commentary, add our own insights, but we've done something new in this book. from what I did in previous books, and that is Add prayers.

Which makes this kind of a commentary devotional combination. And Kristen, has such a facility for prayers. He primarily authored the prayers And we went back and forth on the text and we contributed to each other's stuff.

So it was a labor of love. It was really fun. And I just hope that this Book will help. the lay reader and others get closer uh to God. David, I was reading an interview you did with our friends over at Foxnews.com, and I was really taken by surprise.

You said that in writing this, you started writing Christian books because you knew what it was like to be a skeptic. Take us back to that point when you were a skeptic, and how did you become a believer?

Well I Always believed in God, it's kind of impossible for me to understand how you could think that. that matter could be formed from non matter, much less light from Uh immaterial uh objects. And so I always believed in God, but I just never really embraced the God of the Bible, much less. Receive Jesus as my Lord and Savior, and even though I was raised in a church, and I always knew that that was the thing that I ought to believe, but I just had. Intellectual doubts, we call them intellectual doubts.

They may have massed other things, who knows? But I started reading apologetics early on: Josh McDowell, Paul Little. Norman Geisler. I just inhaled that stuff and I just kept reading it and reading it with fascination. Used to watch Charles Stanley's.

Broadcast. Even though I wasn't really a Christian, I was drawn to it. I always. I was not a rebel in the sense that I didn't want to be a Christian. I wanted to be.

But. I finally went to this Christian businessman's prayer. meeting, big meeting in Cape. They had like a thousand people there, maybe five hundred, I don't know. And they had asked you to leave a sign a card if you wanted to learn more about Jesus Christ.

So something nudged me, I would say the Holy Spirit to sign that card. Even though I really didn't want to, but I did it. I mean, I didn't consciously want to. And so I signed it. We've again it began a meeting in a Bible group with with about three or four close friends.

two of whom were the leaders of this study, and they introduced us this booklet Which was called First Steps. And although it seems very rudimentary now, as much as I studied at the time. I was so ignorant I didn't know at all. you know, how that Jesus was all over the Old Testament. I've I've since written a book about that.

That that And he was prophesied with such particularity in the Old Testament that the Bible was the inspired word of God, every bit of it, inspired, God-breathed. Iner it. And all the rest of it. And I and I finally Through I mean, I'm abbreviating this, but finally came to the conclusion for the realization that the The Bible really is the Word of God, I think. I'm holding in my hand, the Word of God.

That's a goose goosebump inspiring moment. And uh If you really think it's the word of God, you have a. Complete reverence for it, and it blows you away. And I, the away in this case, and I wanted to begin inhaling everything I could about the Bible and theology and doctrine. My problem was I was frustrated because I wanted to be conversant with it immediately.

In my impatient, with my impatient personality, I wanted to have a feel for the Bible. And so I just began inhaling all I could about it. And it took a while before I even felt nominally comfortable, marginally comfortable. But what these books really are is to put my Put the readers in the position that I was in, assuming that they want a place to begin, that they'd love to start reading the Bible and knowing what they're reading, but they're just a little intimidated, don't know where to begin. himself It's geared for people like that, or new believers, or even the lay readers.

who want to go further, because we do go do a deep dive into theology in some cases, and hopefully it's written in an accessible way, so it's not too deep. And folks, we have a direct link so you can get yourself a copy of the book over on the live show blog, or you can also buy it wherever you get your books. David, I'm curious, as you're going through it and writing this, do you ever go back to a passage and maybe you've read the passage of Scripture a million times before, and yet you come back to it and you glean something new from that passage of Scripture? Yeah, so often. And and it To me, what it says is It really is God's word.

It's his living word. And that means different things to different people, I think. But to me, it means That is active, it's alive, he's talking to you. us individually as we read it. And he meets us where we are.

So we can read a passage one day, we're experiencing one, and we'll read the truth in that scripture. And then we'll, a year later, read that same scripture, we're in a different circumstance, and it may hit us in a different way. These are timeless truths. They're delivered through stories of real people facing real hardships. It's not some.

Book of abstract book of or book of abstract ideas, theological precepts. It is a book about real people, and it's an integrated book from start to finish, which tells. God's love story for mankind, whom He created. In his image, they fell. He knew he would have to send his son in human form to suffer the indignities.

of human existence. and then die for our sins after persecution, torture. And Then be bodily resurrected so that we could join him in bodily resurrection and live in eternal glory with him. It's a life-changing, literally a life-changing book, and it becomes personal. And I love that you've woven in the devotions, the prayers, and I think that just enhances whatever you just read of the book, that's going to be enhanced in the prayers as you reflect on that.

David, I want to go back to the fact that you wrote this book with your daughter, Kristen. I remember her journalism back at Fox, and she's just a brilliant writer. What was that experience like writing a book together? No, it was just amazing. She was pregnant.

God. For most of the period, I'd have to think, maybe the whole period. Yeah, almost. And uh She was a good sport, and I didn't, you know, there were about two weeks there when I gave her some slack. Other than that, I was driving the whip.

You know, we got to meet the deadline. I don't care if you're getting ready to give birth to my first grandchild. You get to work. And uh, so but no, it was back and forth: email, text, you know, FaceTime. And, and, I have this Logos Bible software, which is mind-blowing.

I don't know if you have it. And you can, I have like an enormous 30,000 books. I've accumulated them over 15 years or whatever. And they're all searchable by birth and by topic and So when I'm reading a verse, and I literally go through the chapter and verse of every one of these books, seven letters. And I do a search called a passage guide.

And I have at my fingertips. At least a hundred commentaries. For every verse. And so I sift through those and read them and get what I think is the most insightful and easy to understand gem of those And weave it into the We weave it into the text and the commentary. I add we add uh Early Church Fathers' insight, which man, that was delightful.

You know, people, this is another thing that affirms the biblical worldview. Human nature hasn't changed at all. These guys that were writing August Augustine and all these guys, and even earlier than him. In the first century, second century A.D., writing their insights about scripture. And they're just as smart well, in this case, they're way smarter than we are.

And they don't come across as some antiquated people in robes and hard to understand. They just. it is just fascinating how human nature doesn't change and how timeless it is and how the same problem that they face the same problems we do, which is why it doesn't matter that the Bible was written that long ago, because the truth that it imparts are for all ages and all times and all people created in God's image. And David, I j and I still contend that the the biggest problem facing our nation is truly a spiritual problem and not a political problem. Todd, couldn't agree more.

And as you know, The Accounts of Paul in chapter six. Of Ephesians talks about The principalities behind The physical forces in the world, that the real powers are the spiritual ones. The Prince of Darkness rules the world. That's why Jesus said. contrary to what the left thinks, the left deifies unity and so do some squishy establishment Republicans, when it ought to be about the advancement of principle.

Not that compromise is always bad, except we have to note that nine times out of ten.

Now ninety nine out of one hundred, there's compromise with political and s and secular leftists, and you move the football further down the left toward the left of the goalpost. But the point is, Jesus said, I came to divide mother and father, brother and sister. He didn't say I came to unify. Of course, he wants to unify the church, and Paul was clear about that. But he the reason he knew he came to divide is because he is truth.

He doesn't represent truth. He doesn't talk about truth. He doesn't Truth, he is truth. Personified. And so.

Since the Prince of Darkness is in control of this world, it stands to reason that he's going to divide people. Those who follow him from those who follow the satanic and demonic forces, and Todd. Think about what we're witnessing today, the objective evil that is being perpetrated. By the left. Think about the glorification of the murder of babies, the celebration of it, not just the reluctant permission of it, but the glorification of it and the demonization of those.

who oppose it. Who oppose abortion up to the point of birth? And then think about the mutilation of children. In furtherance of confusing gender against God's created order. Consider the breakdown in law and order in our cities.

And the And the sentinel crossing our border, which is intentional. You cannot say it's incompetent, and you can't say it's accidental. It's too much. They've opened borders wide, even though they deny it. And on and on and on.

David, we've got to take a quick break. Can you hold on over the break? All right, folks, we've got David Limbaugh. He and his daughter, Kristen Limbaugh Bloom, writing a great new book, The Resurrected Jesus, The Church in the New Testament. We've got a link to it on the live show blog.

We've got to take a break. We'll be right back. Uh All right, David Limbaugh hanging out with us today. He and his daughter, Kristen Limbaugh Bloom, writing a great new book, The Resurrected Jesus, The Church of the New Testament. And of course, David, a lot of our listeners loved Rush, and I think we talk about Rush at least once a week on this program.

We just love El Rushbo, and I'm wondering how you guys are doing. It was a year in February since he went on to glory. Yeah, it was tough. I don't deny it. The first long period of time.

I I was down and and uh continue to be from time to time. We're very close, you know, we probably write twenty-five text to each other back and forth. Nothing. Earth-shattering stuff, mundane stuff. What do you think of this TV show?

That kind of thing. We did we talked about politics. A lot, but not as much as you might think, because we already know by osmosis what we each think.

So it's not like we got to talk about it too much. Um but It's yes, it's really hard to lose a sibling. It's very hard to lose parents. But You're in the foxhole together. From the time I was born, I knew it.

We were best friends and Uh, he was he's two years older than me and so than I, I guess I should say. And then anyway, it just It's a little, there's a void, there's a hole in my heart there. But, you know, I love the fact that his audience. Considers him family and my and me, to some extent, extended family. It's a warm feeling.

They didn't just think that, okay, he's the guy that. Standing in the breach. He's the guy that's helping. Uh give us a voice when the mainstream media is monolithically liberal. It's more than that.

It was more than than he was their mouthpiece For years. It was that he was in their homes three hours a day. They considered him terrific. Family, literally family. You can't believe how intimate they considered themselves.

and how they say, invariably, he's the best friend I never met.

So that's extremely gratifying to me to witness that, to experience it, to receive. Those expressions of warmth every day, and it's continuing. You look at my mentions column on Twitter and just. I mean, it's it's how much they Appreciate Miss Rush. wonder what he would think about this and all that stuff.

So it It's pretty cool. It is cool, and we just love him. And you're right, he was a friend and a member of the family. And I think that's just, again, the power of Russia's voice and the power of radio. And that's why I think that radio is never going to go away.

You cannot do that in any other form of broadcasting except for talk radio. And so, David, they're yelling at me because we're coming up on the bottom of the hour. We can talk for another hour. Congratulations on the new book, and we appreciate, and I appreciate your friendship over the years. Same here, Todd.

You're a good friend. You're great at what you do. You're stalwart for Christ. And for the United States of America and its freedoms. I really appreciate you, and I know your audience does.

So take care. Keep fighting a good fight. All right. Come on down to Memphis one of these days, David. We'll grab some ribs.

We'll do. Thank you. All right. David Limbaugh, everybody. The great book, The Resurrected Jesus: The Church of the New Testament.

You get a copy over at ToddSterns.com. Hang tight. We'll be right back. All right, welcome back to the Top Stars radio program. Let's go to the phones here.

Dan in North Carolina, he's got a bone to pick with David and Winston-Salem about the military. All right, Dan, what's going on here? Mm. Thanks for taking my call. Is that where he was from?

I didn't catch that. But I had to call the vent after my blood pressure went up about one hundred points after I. he made the statement that the mil people in the military don't work unless they're at war. Yeah, that's what he said. Clearly, unaware of all the work they do to prepare.

Yeah, he need he can spend one you know, a week in in the home base, which you work 12 hours a day. Minimum ten, quite often twelve or fourteen, five days a week, quite often six, seven days a week. deployments And especially at C, you're working twelve on, twelve off, six days a week, seven days a week. I went down to Haiti in 'inety four' for the operation down there. We worked thirty five days straight, twelve on, twelve off.

and don't get me started on recruiting duty for all the hours and days you put in there. But again, I think he showed his true side there, Dan, and I appreciate him calling up. And we love going toe-to-toe with people who disagree with us. But when he said, well, giving all that money to Ukraine, that's a different story. I don't think it is.

If we've got enough money to help out another country, we should be taking care of our own. Oh, I agree. I agree. you know, for years it 99% of the civilians that are non-veterans have no clue what the military does. You know what, Dan?

You're absolutely right about that. Hey, I want you to give us a call back one of these days. Appreciate you calling in. I do need to go to the Patriot Mobile newsmaker line. We have from the great state of Tennessee Senator Marsha Blackburn.

Senator, hope you're doing well today. I am doing well, and as always, delighted to join you, Todd. Thank you. And you know, Senator, it's interesting. We were talking about this issue of so many soldiers having to use food stamps.

At least that's what the Pentagon is telling them.

Well, if you can't make ends meet, go and get government cheese. And a lot of our listeners really got put off by that, and they feel like we ought to be doing a better job taking care of our military.

Well, indeed we should. And Senator Duckworth from Illinois and I joined hands on this issue two years ago. and addressing the food needs, making certain there is supplemental income to take care of the food needs. For our troops. This is just inconceivable that a military spouse.

who was tending to a family. by themselves. male or female, while the spouse is deployed, would be put in the position of having to go get food stamps to feed their family. Senator, it's an issue that I hope the Republicans are able to address once you guys retake the House and the Senate, and maybe we can do something to help these brave men and women who are literally putting their lives on the line every day so that we can be free. I want to go to your Twitter feed.

There are so many huge issues we want to ask you about. And, of course, you point out something very interesting: that it took Democrats less than 48 hours to do something about the illegals who ended up in Martha's Vineyard.

Meanwhile, you've got people along the border in those towns and communities that are suffering as a result of an action by the Biden administration. You know what that is. It is astounding that it took forty-eight hours. For the people. in uh an elite community To say no, get them out of our town.

Well, they took them to a military base. But isn't it interesting? The people that do all of this virtue signaling, be kind, don't say this, don't do that. They were the first ones within forty-eight hours to say, no, no, no, we don't have the ability To care for these individuals, we don't have the resources, we don't have the infrastructure. It was just so interesting to me.

Here you have one of the wealthiest communities in the country. And It took them 48 hours to say, bring in the buses. We need to be sure we move them to somewhere else.

So then they were taken to barracks on the military base. I mean, when you look at what's happening, we were telling a story earlier in the show about a second-generation barbecue place down in Eagles Pass, and they had to sell their business. They've been broken into so many times. They are literally living in fear of their lives. That is not right.

That is not how Americans should have to live on American soil. And I'm so glad to see you and other lawmakers standing up and fighting for these good people.

Well, and indeed, we're going to continue that work. And again, to that point, you were one of the first to point out that it was Joe Biden who was flying in the dark of night illegal aliens into Chattanooga, Tennessee, and dropping off the illegals.

So, this is not like something new, what's happening with Ron DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott and Doug Ducey. They're just following the lead of the Biden administration.

Well, you're right about that. And with all of these elite communities, That want to say, We can't do this, or Chicago that says, Let's book out a hotel and send them to the suburbs. I don't hear one single person say we're concerned for what these individuals have suffered. as they have been under the thumb of the cartels. And they're not looking at the drugs.

the human the humanitarian crisis. I mean, just the abuse. That these individuals are subjected to, whether it's drugs or sex or Whatever. And, you know, Todd, it is just. frightening to think about these women and girls that think, oh, this is the way we can go to America, we can work out our fee once we get there.

And what happens is they put a band on them, they're going to be tracked. The cartels are going to use them until they use them up. And I just find it to be such a humanitarian crisis. and a travesty and When you talk to our human Trafficking agencies and sex trafficking agencies, and those that are dealing with the issue of drugs. The border is a part.

of this issue and closing that border. is a big part A barbing the problems that are around these issues. Senator Marsha Blackburn is on the Patriot Mobile newsmaker line. Senator, one other thing I'd love for you to weigh in on. You have legislation that is going to target these criminals who are on the streets.

I mean, just over the weekend, this crazy story about a guy in New York City armed with an axe that was destroying a McDonald's and terrorizing people. That guy is already back out on the streets. But you've got some legislation, Restoring Law and Order Act. What will that do? Yes.

And as we have worked with our Tennessee sheriffs, and our law enforcement officers. And then, following the atrocities that have just been heartbreaking in Memphis, what we decided was. Senator Haggerty and I said, you know, let's put a bill together. One of the provisions would require a GAO study on processing these rape kits. We know that for some reason, this processing seems to be going very slow.

It should be a matter of days, not months. that rate kits are returned to local law enforcement, and we want to find out why. and see how systemic this problem is. Another thing that we're looking at is repositioning some of this money. That has been brought forward through COVID funding so that our local communities can hire more law enforcement officers.

pay them in a more equitable manner. give them the resources that they need to fight crime in the streets, gangs, some of the drug trafficking crimes, these fentanyl overdoses.

So it is making law enforcement a priority.

So that We these local law enforcement Entities have what they need to keep our communities safe. We have heard from so many people. About the problems that are there with the rising crime. And Todd, this is something we can do.

something about. And yes, indeed, we are going to continue to push on it.

Well, I think I could speak on behalf of all of my fellow Memphians by saying thank you for doing something, you and Senator Haggerty. It is just really heartbreaking what's happening in Memphis. There's so many great people there, so many great businesses and entrepreneurs, and it's just not right that progressives have allowed the criminals to take charge. Senator, we're going to leave it there. Always great to hear from you, and we look forward to seeing you back in Memphis one of these days.

You got it. Take care. Bye-bye now. All right, Senator Marcia Blackburn, everybody on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line. Hey, look, we've got to take a quick break.

When we return, we're going to get to your calls. A lot of people are fired up over one of our previous callers who said that the military members do not deserve a pay raise and says they really don't do anything except fighting wars. What say you, ladies and gentlemen? 844-747-8868. I want to tell you about our good friend Mike Lindell under attack by the FBI and the deep state.

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So they're mocking the Christians at Liberty University with Pride Night. Brilliant. Look, can I just ask you a question here? I just asked, I don't mean to stir anything up here. I thought Pride Month was in June.

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844-747-8868. Let's go to the phones. Pastor Bob. In Georgia, WDUN. R.A.

Panster, what's on your mind? Hello, this is Pastor Bob from Beaufort, the talk stations. Uh I really appreciate what you're doing. Years ago, I lived in Washington, DC. And we were having the people say the policemen were getting paid too much And they put a bumper sticker out that says, next time you're in trouble, call a hippie.

I sat next to a twenty three year old veteran He served for 23 years in the Army. If I see a guy with a Any kind of military hat on or a uniform, the first thing I say is thank you for taking care of our country. they're not getting paid nearly enough. And back to your alphabet. LBGT stand for Liberty, Guns, Bibles, Trump and Barbecue.

Ha ha ha ha! I love the way you think, Pastor Bob. All right, my kid.

Somehow we got to get these people out to vote in November. We've got to get out the vote. And you heard that from the assemblymen from California. We've got to get out the vote. If every Christian in America would go and vote on Election Day, we would solve just about every problem, lickety split in one election cycle.

Pastor Bob, appreciate your call. Thank you for that. Let's go to Bill in Georgia, W-T-U-N, wants to weigh in on the military. All right, Bill, what say you? Uh I'm a longtime listener, Todd.

Can you hear me okay? Bill, you're coming in just fine.

Okay, very good. I'm with the WDUN in Jefferson, Georgia. I think that we missed the boat a little bit on this thing about the military not being paid enough. I think we have a problem with expectations in our military. And the reason I say that is you have to look at what the pay right now is for the military.

and all the benefits that they receive along with that pay and consider the whole package.

Now should I go on, Todd?

Well, I'm all ears here, Bill. I'm just looking, though. The starting pay is $21,420 a year. That's not a lot of money. Right, that's correct, Todd.

And What I think people forget is that originally the military was designed to have the lower ranking enlisted men not be married and and not have children because we didn't want them to go away to war and and make widows and orphans.

So, therefore, the people that have to be paid are not the lower ranking enlisted men, it's the men that are career men. And I can go on with that and explain something else. But Bill, even the career, even the officers, I mean, the officers are being paid, but it's not really exorbitant.

So, I mean, again, if and I don't know military history, but even going back to the early days of the Vietnam War, there were a lot of men who had families. I'm thinking about the We Were Soldiers or the We Were Soldiers movie, where that was a big problem. You had all these soldiers getting killed, and there weren't enough chaplains to go around and notify the families of the deceased.

Well, that is a difficult situation, and I sympathize with that. I'm a Vietnam veteran of two years. When I started in the military in 1969, my first paycheck was $99.

Nowadays, they make quite a bit more than that. I would have never thought of being able to take my pay and go buy a new car. the expectations are the problem, Todd. We're expecting These fellas to be in there and get paid like they have many years of experience and. Uh Like a real tradesman.

And it takes them several years to learn that. Then once they learn that and they're about an E four, They get paid about two thousand seven hundred dollars a month then. And if they have a family, all their medical care is paid for, and they have a housing subsidy and they have privileges at a PX.

Now that's pretty good pay for a man that's in his mid twenties who can retire in fifteen years on a full pension.

So you're okay, so you're okay with the pay where it is. Yes, sir. I think it's very fair, and I think our VA has been badly maligned. From my experience with VA, I have only had good experiences. The only problem I see with VA is they can't keep doctors because they don't pay the doctors enough in VA.

They are not competitive with their doctors.

So you never know what doctor you're going to get. But I think our pay in the military is a very good question. Wait a second.

So we've got to pay the doctors and the VA more. Is that what you're saying? I'm confused here. Sure. That's right.

We have a problem with retention of good doctors. All right. No, I got you. No, I got you. And by the way, if you think that's the problem with the doctors, that's the problem with the military, too.

So if you're going to take care of the pay for the doctors, seems to me you would want to also take care of the pay for the rank and file. Oh, look, we've got to run, Bill. Appreciate your call. Folks, Bill says they're getting paid enough. What say you, ladies and gentlemen?

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Welcome to the Todd Starns Radio Show. We're broadcasting this week on the road. Believe it or not, they let me into California. I don't know how that happened. But we're broadcasting from West Coast Baptist College, beautiful Antelope Valley.

That's the high desert area of northern Los Angeles County. And we're just having a great time. The college and the church's annual leadership conference is underway. Thousands of people are here from all over America. And, Grace Baker, I've already run into several people, and they've asked two questions.

Is Grace Baker with you? And what about Caleb Park? Aw, well, I appreciate that. Yeah, I would love sometime to come out to California. I've actually never been.

Oh, you would love it out here. It's very nice.

So, get this.

So, last week, it was like 180 degrees here in California. And then, so I don't know what happened. It was kind of like when we had our 75th anniversary party. It was like 110 degrees. The temperature, because we were going to be in that beautiful rooftop, the temperature on the day of the party dropped down to like 75 or 80 degrees.

And the same thing happened out here. It was cold this morning. A blessing from the Lord. Verily, verily.

Well said, Grace Baker. All right, we'll get you out. We'll get you to California one of these days. I will pack my bags in a jiffy. All right.

Very good. Merlot, I'm not sure we can get the dog out of here. I'm not sure I can get her through airport security. It's kind of hard to hide. By the way, if you could send somebody over to the airport to make sure my car is still there, I'd appreciate it.

Okay. All right. Thanks, Grace. Anyway, we're very excited to have with us a great guest, a very dear friend of mine. He's the pastor of Lancaster Baptist Church and the president of West Coast Baptist College, Dr.

Paul Chappell. Dr. Chappell. Todd, great to be with you. It's always good to have you at the conference.

You guys always keep us fed and watered out here. We work hard at it. We want to reward you for coming out to California. We want you to have some fringe benefits, as we know, it's difficult for you to come into this liberal state.

Well, yes, but I will say this: that I was really encouraged. Last night I was speaking with the college freshmen, a great class of students, and I was really impressed with how engaged they are on the big political and cultural issues of the day.

Well, most of these young people have been trained and raised with a biblical worldview, and so they're able to take their.

Okay. Understanding of the scriptures and the paradigm they have of current events comes from that view. When you do look at what's happening in the culture, we've seen so many churches that have disengaged. And we heard this from the assemblyman early on, assemblyman Lackey, who was on in the first hour of the show. He said, if only Christians would mobilize and get out and vote and vote their values, then that would really change a lot of things, not just here in California, but around the nation.

What do you say to that?

Some Christians misinterpret the biblical admonitions to love your enemy and some of these things with a passivity that causes them to step back and not want to engage. There is a way to speak the truth in love. There is a way to take a stand and still keep a spirit towards people that is Christ-like. And that's something that our students are finding the balance of and acting upon.

Well, again, it's really impressive just to see the intellect knowing. And this has been a fascinating thing for us to discover over the past couple of months. We've noticed that a lot of Generation Zers are really attracted to Ron DeSantis. And so that'll be interesting to see how all of that plays out. But again, that's the key, I think, is letting people of faith know it's okay to engage in the political process.

Absolutely. And I think they see something in DeSantis from the standpoint of not just convictions or. Policy, but they see him implementing those effectively in his state.

So that's governance. And here in California, we have a governor who, in the midst of the inflation, just less than a month ago, one of his ways to fight inflation was to stop taxing the marijuana industry. And so here's a state that is so Filled with a lack of understanding of how to handle their problems, that they cannot connect the dots between marijuana use and homelessness. And so we have ten times the illegal growth since they legalized marijuana, and yet now we're going to incentivize more and more and more of it with no taxes being paid. That's the type of man that wants to perhaps run for the United States Presidency, and those are the kinds of people that support him.

It fascinated me. We were driving around Lancaster, which is a very large city. What, about a quarter million people live here?

So it's a very large city. We're in the desert. It's beautiful, but it's the desert. And yet there are a lot of homeless people. And someone was explaining to me that they believe that they're actually moving, relocating the homeless from Los Angeles up to Lancaster in the desert.

Is that true? That's been a problem for probably 20 years. We're the last stop in northern LA County and the we've we've been historically a conservative uh community. Um this the folks in LA have been giving vouchers to people and saying take take the train to the last stop and uh the county built a huge homeless uh center here for these people, but todd so many of them because of of drugs and uh the gateway drug is marijuana and many of them they're so strung out they don't want to stay in the homeless shelter. They prefer to stay outside under these tarps.

And if you go downtown to L.A., it's every overpass they're living under the overpasses, living in the parks. And this is, if you want it nationwide, vote for Newsom. It's shocking. Parts of Los Angeles, and I've been coming here for 20-plus years, and you felt comfortable walking around downtown Los Angeles years ago, not so much now, because it really does look like some sort of a refugee camp from a third world country. Right.

No, the policies have been very tolerant towards drugs, towards trespassing, towards prostitution. The DA in L.A. County is not prosecuting laws that are on the books. And so there is a willfulness on the part of the criminal element to just do whatever they want to do, live wherever they want to live. And I'm amazed that it continues to be a problem.

Pastor Paul Champel joins us. The pastor at the Lancaster Baptist Church and the president of West Coast Baptist College. When you look at the mission of West Coast, it it's not just California-centric. You guys are making an impact nationwide, really globally, but especially here in the United States. What is the mission of West Coast Baptist College?

Well, the mission is really simple. It is to proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ. And the fact is, Todd, and I'll mention this tonight in the opening message, that Our nation is living in a difficult time. We're here voicing some conservative views. The other side likes to bring out the sins of our founding fathers, and they like to have their rhetoric against conservativism.

But what I want to speak about tonight is just simply the fact that we're all sinners. All of us are sinners, left and right. It doesn't matter. Long before Karl Marx, the Bible spoke of alienation. The Bible says that we were aliens from Christ and from the Commonwealth of Israel, and we were without hope, without God in this world.

And so, what we're trying to teach the young people is that this is a fallen human race, that Jesus Christ shed his blood to redeem us and to bring us into fellowship with the Father, and to go out and love people, even if they are the homeless, even if they are smoking marijuana. We don't care where they're at. We want to help them where they are. We dislike the policies that allow those lifestyles to proliferate, but we want to teach this. Group of young people to love the world where the world's at and to bring them to Christ.

And that's what it's all about. They're all around the world, as you know, doing this gospel work. And most of them are studying to become ministers, is that right? Pastors. They are.

Most are pastors. The young ladies predominantly are in the educational fields. They're in music fields. They're in areas that are church ministries related.

So some of them have tech talents and so forth. But it's all about ministry, and every student is majoring in the Bible because we believe that's where the answer is found. I think that's just tremendous. And no government funding. No, we are accredited, but we've never received government funds.

And there have already been a few attempts in Sacramento to mandate certain lifestyle issues on the campuses of Christian colleges, certain curricula.

So without taking their money, it puts us in a much stronger legal position to contend for our faith. Of that, it becomes that much more important for folks in our listening audience to support schools like West Coast Baptist College. I mean, you guys are doing very important work here. And, folks, if folks would like to contribute or get information on how they can support the ministries and the efforts here, what do they need to do? They can visit wcbc.edu, West Coast Baptist College website, wcbc.edu, and there's a giving portal there.

We appreciate people who help us. There's several hundred that send something in every year. We don't have a full-time development department. We're dependent upon just moments like this where God might touch someone's heart and say, you know what, I'm going to help a college in California that's standing for Jesus, that's standing for the right, and we appreciate that very much. I think that's wonderful.

How many students do you guys have this semester? We have about 800 students. We've got around 500 right now on campus, about 300. Online, and so it's a good, vibrant student body. I love that.

Well, Dr. Chappell, we've got to take a break here. We really appreciate you coming on the show, and thanks for the great hospitality, the great food, and the free coffee. Anytime, Todd, we're your watering hole on the West Coast. Speaking of that, by the way, these tumbleweeds are out of control.

There's some tumbleweeds large enough to swallow a Volkswagen car. It's unbelievable. They're not as docile as you see in the Roadrunner cartoons. I mean, they're very aggressive. They are, especially when they know conservative commentators on the road.

No doubt about it. Leftist. Oh, my goodness. All right, Dr. Paul Chappell, everybody here on the program.

We've got to take a break. When we come back, we're going directly to the phones, full line.

So we're going to get to your calls. 844-747-8868. This is the Todd Stern Show. New message. What up, what up?

It's Heather's cousin. You dated her in college, or maybe you were just in the same class. Anyway, I heard you bought a boat. My man. Hit the water.

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Who do you people think you are? It says they're morally reprehensible.

Well, here's a little nugget about Gavin Usum. And if you're ever in an argument with one of these leftists, feel free to use this information. But back when Gavin Newsom was mayor of San Francisco, he developed a program called Homeward Bound.

Now, that sounds like a very lovely, family-friendly, holiday sort of venture. But in fact, it was morally reprehensible, to borrow a phrase from the governor. Governor Hairgel, back when he was a mayor, literally bust thousands of homeless people out of San Francisco, literally giving them one-way tickets on Greyhound buses.

So if the governor wants to have this conversation, this debate, maybe we need to start talking about what he did when he was mayor of San Francisco. 844-747-8868. That's our toll-free telephone number. Let's go to the phones here. Dave in North Carolina, the talk station, wants to weigh in on the military.

Dave, what's up? Yeah. Hey, Doc, thanks for taking my call. I was listening to the guy earlier.

Well, I walked in on the end of it and. I asked Grace, and he said that he was, in fact, a veteran.

Now, I don't know. how long, what branch or anything else And when it comes down to paying stuff, Pay grades are pay grades, E one through E nine, and then the officer grades, you know, O one through So here's the thing. If you're a corporal, in the Army or the Marine Corps or you're Yeah. An E-4 in the Air Force, and they love to go by pay grades. They don't like rank because that's just too military for them.

And you know The pay grade is the same. Different branches have different standards of living and different entitlements. You know, an Air Force, I'm right outside the main gate of Cherry Point right now. And you get a Marine flies in here in a C one thirty and they're going to be overnight and then they're leaving. They got to work on the airplane.

I've seen Marines do that. They work on the planes.

Sometimes they'll stretch out on those extremely uncomfortable troop seats maybe with a poncho line or a sleeping bag, it to get a nap, And, you know, they get up and get going. Pilots actually, you know, they'll get some rest. You get the Air Force guys flying in here. Totally different. It's a whole different standard.

They need six people, so they need 315 passenger vans. They got to go out to the Marriott. You know, uh They they get extra per diem. They've got to go, you know, they can't eat at the chow hall. They've got to go somewhere nice to eat.

So when this guy starts talking all this stuff, I don't know what his background is, but it all depends. Here's the thing, out of the entire community of military people we have right now, at no one time does more than one percent of the military serve on active duty. They're all volunteers.

Now, I'm on and off military installations all the time, and I deal directly with these people. And I'll tell you, we got people on active duty right now who shouldn't be. But that's going to be the case in any career field, in any occupation. You know, there's doctors who shouldn't be doctors. There's congressmen who, well, let's get rid of all of them.

Uh there's just you know everywhere you go If you go out to the road workers, you see three or four guys working hard and one guy leaning on a shovel. Everywhere.

Well, look, I mean, look, here's the point though. But again, the point goes back to this, that these guys and gals are making anywhere they're not making anywhere near enough money. To start a family, to survive. I mean, you're making $21,000 a year. People working at McDonald's are making more money than that.

So we've got to get this figured out. And if we can pay our people in Congress, if we can pay them over $100,000 a year, and I'm not saying we've got to pay all these soldiers $100,000 a year starting pay, but it seems to me if you're willing to put your life on the line. For our country, then that's probably a little more deserving than what it takes to work at Arby's or Burger King. That's all I'm trying to say. Dave appreciate the call.

Appreciate the call. Let's go to Mark in the Villages, America's friendliest hometown. Mark, what's on your mind? Hello, young man. Um Maybe you can convert my brother over.

He's in California, pretty active in the college communities out there. I'll have to tell you about that one day. Um So after Sleazeball Slickhead Newsom gets a shell shocking by Ron DeSantis here in Florida about the immigrants in Martha Vineyard. Newsom's like, I'm going to show you, and gives $100,000 to Ron DeSantis' opponent running for governor, Chris. In return.

Slickhead Newsom's in-laws. have been given contributions to the Santhasis pack. And it just shows how much family trust Newsome has. Todd, you can't make this crap up. There's a distinct difference between DeSantis and Slickhead.

Millions love DeSantis. On the other hand, Millions can't stand Newsome. Case in point, they gathered over one million signatures to have him removed from office. What's that tell you?

Well, exactly. And I was talking to some folks around here in California over the past couple of days. Everybody thinks the fix was in there. They really do believe they had the numbers to recall this guy.

So, all right. Hey, I love it. We're going to adopt the term slickhead. I love it. Slickhead Newsome.

Mark, we give you all the credit for that one. Mark from the villages, appreciate the call. Folks, we got to take a quick break here. 844-747-8868. By the way, you want to head over right now to toddstearns.com.

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Pretty good shape, huh? Which leads to my next question. You are more aware of this than anyone.

Some people ask whether you are fit for the job. And when you hear that, I wonder what you think. Watch me. Honest to God, that's all I think. Watch me.

If you think I don't have the energy level or the mental mental acuity, then... then you know that's one thing. It's another thing of just watch and keep my schedule. do what I'm doing. I I think that I don't want to sit down with our NATO allies and keep them together, I don't have them saying, wait a minute, well, how old are you?

What do you what do they say? You know, I mean, it's a matter of, you know, That old expression, the proof of the puddings in the eating. I mean I respect the fact that people would say, you know, you're old, but I think it relates to how much energy you have and whether or not the job you're doing is one consistent with what any person of any age would be able to do. How would you say your mental focus is? Which focused?

I say it's I think it's I I haven't look I have trouble even mentioning, even saying to myself my own head the number of years. I no more think of myself as being as old as I am than fly. I mean, it's just not uh uh I haven't observed anything in terms of There's not things I don't do now that I did before, whether it's physical or mental or anything else. All right, there you have it. The President of the United States saying he has the mental focus and capacity of a fly.

I would have gone with Nat, but there you go. All right. Welcome back to the Todd Starns Radio Show. We are broadcasting all this week from West Coast Baptist College at their annual Spiritual Leadership Conference. Thousands of people are here from all over America.

It's been so great to meet so many of our wonderful, wonderful listeners over the past couple of days, and we'll be here all week. I do want to go to the Patriot Mobile newsmaker line. Our good friend, the founder of Timothy Plan, Art Alley, now he is. He's RVing across America. Art, where are you now?

not across America, just down from the headwaters of the Mississippi to New Orleans. We are Bonnie, where are we? We're in St. Louis. I'm having a hard time keeping track.

But we're headed toward Memphis in a couple of days. I love it. And Art, I'm doing my best to get back there. You know, I'm out here on the West Coast, but uh, if I can't make it, the staff has orders to treat you and and Miss Bonnie like a king when you arrive. Oh, well then we sure have to follow up on that.

I'm curious, what is that like though? I mean, you're driving the R V down the Mississippi River or at least trailing the Mississippi River. What are you got are you are you meeting people, having conversations with folks? Oh yeah, Todd. It is not us lonesome dubbing it.

This is an organized guided tour By a company called Fantasy RV Tours. They set the whole thing up. All we do is show up. And uh follow the bouncing ball. But it's been great.

You know, on this trip, the way it works, Todd. I drive. Bonnie screams. Yeah, I'll see you. She's still very nervous in that passenger seat.

Yeah. Yeah. Art, I'm not sure I would have shared that on national radio, but oh no, it's true. They might as well know the truth. Oh, goodness.

Art, we just well, first of all, safe travel is out there. And there are a couple of stories we wanted to touch base with you on. And one of those happens to be the rising crime rate in America and how it's beginning to impact a lot of stores, not just mom and pop stores. We were talking about this barbecue joint down on the Texas border, and they've been hit five times since February.

So they've sold their business. Starbucks announced back in July they were shutting down 16 stores. I mean, this really is going to be having an impact on not only people, the bottom line of people's bank accounts, but also these business owners. You bet. You know, the thing that has evaporated in America, it seems, is common sense.

When you make it wide open for anything goes, criminals with no Penalties for whatever they do. What in the world do people think is going to happen? And you could really get frustrated and discouraged. Todd, I know you and I sometimes do. But I am encouraged because America is still America.

mainstream America, not mainstream media, mainstream America still loves their freedom. They appreciate law and order. I mean, how would you like to be a police officer in this environment? man, you take your life into your hands and if you try to stop uh a bad guy, You become the bad guy in the way some of these cities are operating, it is no wonder.

Now I don't feel too bad about Starbucks because we won't own their company. But, you know, these these businesses, I mean, what a tragedy it is, and so unnecessary. It is. And it's concerning because that seems to me to be a fixable problem right away, just getting control of crime in America. But the first Todd in a weekend.

But the broader issue is What's coming? And I'm not sure that we're going to be able to stop this. The chairman of FedEx, and I'm glad this got a lot of attention, but the chairman of FedEx warning people that we've got some big problems coming down the pipeline. They are announcing cuts. They're shutting down a lot of FedEx stores, offices, preparing for what's about to happen.

Are you following those developments as you're traveling through the heartland?

Well, we're a little bit insulated from that, Todd. But I mean, what in the world would people expect to happen? It is incredible, not only not safe, But the price that the average American is paying from this administration and all of their policies with inflation, and we've got another hike coming in interest rates. They are absolutely you know, it's not politically correct to say this, but they're trying to destroy America. and turn us into a third world country.

However, I believe, and your listeners know this to be true, Uh Broadstream America is waking up, and we're saying enough is enough. We're showing up. We have these pastor boot camps. We trained over 1,200 Yeah. patriot pastors now to equip their congregations On the biblical principles of politics.

You cannot separate the two. That's how they try to win You know, talk about anything but religion and pol uh and politics, what in the world runs your life but religion and politics. And I don't mean religion because Man-made religion is very faulty, but You know, people ask me what's wrong in America and I'm, as you well know, frequently wrong, but never in doubt. Um But what's wrong in America more than political is spiritual. We have a spiritual problem.

this country was uh founded on Christian uh principles which work only every time And we have gotten Sloppy, lazy. pursuing the American dream of unlimited prosperity. and not paid attention To what's going on. We're starting to, and that does encourage me because America is still pretty dug on. strong across from sea to shining sea.

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Okay, man, you too. Have a good time out there on the coast. All right. Art Alley, everybody, the founder of the Timothy Plan. Invest with integrity.

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All right, let's get to the phones here. 844-747-8868. Steve in Central Arkansas on the line. Steve, what's on your mind? Hey, Josh.

Oh, Rogers. it came to me listening to you talk about the the pay of our soldiers. This'll tell you a lot. Our soldier who pledges his life to protect Americans And uh Fight force is at the low pay scale of our government. Who's at the highest pay scale of our government?

somebody that it may end up being proven that he's the kingpin. of a group with their so-called gain of function research. cost a million American lives.

So what does our government put the most value at?

Somebody that's killing Americans or somebody that's saving Americans? It's a great question you raised there, my friend, and that is something that we need to be talking about. Again, why are we paying Anthony Fauci making what, well over $400,000 a year? That's just the government salary, the taxpayer salary. Lord knows he's probably making more money than that.

But again, my point, Steve: why are the military personnel, the lowest paid people, On the government doll. Why is that? My my every company I ever worked for, your pay was based on your value to the company. Uh apparently our government doesn't place place much value at protectiveness. By the way, Steve, appreciate the call.

By the way, speaking of that, over the weekend, there were three or four more perfectly healthy teenage, college-age athletes that either dropped dead or had heart attacks. And there was one kid in the Memphis, Tennessee area, and he was competing, I believe, in Florida for some sort of a race. And the poor kid suffered a heart attack right after crossing the finish line. Of this right 17-year-old kid. His name is Chris Harmon, his name.

Or I'm sorry, that's the coach of the team. And the poor kid had to undergo emergency heart surgery. Unbelievable. But according to the coach, the poor kid. Gabe Higginbotham is the young man, and he wound up, he had an artery blocked and had to have a three-hour emergency heart surgery.

But you do wonder if any of this, my first question, whenever I hear these kinds of stories, my first question is: was the person vaccinated? That's the question I have.

So, anyway, so they've launched a GoFundMe page. And, Grace, maybe we can find that information. We'll post that up on our live show blog. But a GoFundMe for this cross-country runner, the poor kid, 17 years old, and he was in perfect. Perfect physical condition, and then ups and has a heart attack.

Something's not right about all of this. And you watch what's going to happen, and it's going to it will come out. But when you look at the declining birth rates, not just in America but all over the world, you think this is just some sort of a coincidence? Folks, I'm telling you, we will discover that something very nefarious was going on with this vaccine. And by the time we figure it out, the people responsible will be long gone.

But I suspect there's going to be some criminal activity surrounding these vaccines. Be very careful, ladies and gentlemen. Very careful. All right, let's go to John in North Carolina, the talk station. Hey, John, what's on your mind today?

Nothing much, Todd. You know, I'm on the Better Coast uh not the west coast, so Ah. talking about the military pay and all that stuff and Food stamped him. Years ago, the commissary was the place of choice for our military families to buy. That is no longer true.

I remember back in day Uh there was the advertisement in the local little mullet wrapper that show the commissary prices For life. six cans of corn for a dollar. where my local grocery store was only three cans for a dollar. Uh There was some type of ruling by Uh Somebody like maybe the comptroller or somebody. Years ago, back in the nineties, that the commissary We're starting to shut down not having the lower prices for our military.

That is where I Yeah. Young E one through E. Six or seven. can really go buy Food for their families at a reasonable rate. and don't feel like they have to be defending too tight.

or go to get food spammy. Yes, I'm with you here. And again, the issue I have is are we even if you had those commissaries and the on the military bases, is that going to be enough money? For these families, for a soldier to provide for his family. I mean, you're looking at.

Even if you're making $25,000, $30,000 a year, that's not a lot of money to take care of a family on. The reduced energy rates for electricity. I remember the gas pumps on the base. were at least ten cents to adopt. 20 cents lower back when it was only $1, $1.50.

off-base, you know, the on-base price is cheaper. I knew I was still soberman for a little while but after my military days. I remember the prices were lower So if the prices on bases a lot lower for those people where their money goes farther, it's fine. But if you're going to pay people according to what they're worth and what not, With mamma. The average military person doesn't put in a 40-hour week.

on their job. When I was at sea, unlike that one guy said he was twelve on, twelve off, while I was sitting on, sitting off in the daylight sit, I had to work also in my steam room. Fire.

Well, John, we're going to have to. John, we're going to have to leave it there. They're going to cut us off here with the computer. But I want to say, God bless you. God bless all of our members of the military.

And we got to do better. We've just got to do better. All right, folks, tomorrow, West Coast Baptist College, we'll do it all over again.