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Former NFL quarterback, Matt Castle. Co-host of Mostly Sports with Mark Titus and Brandon Walker, Brandon Walker. And now, sitting in for Rich, it's Bobby Bones. There will be no April Fool's jokes today, only that I am here and Rich is not.
I'm very sorry. I hate listening when my favorite show has a guest host, so I would like to acknowledge, I understand, I get it, I do. But yes, Rich is not here, he's on vacation. Rich texted me a couple times last night and I'm like, shouldn't you be on vacation?
My question to you guys, first of all, good morning, good afternoon, Chris, whatever time zone people are in. What up dude? Does Rich, when he goes on vacation, still work? Oh yeah, he can't shut it off. Okay, he does that thing where he claims, I'm tapping out, I'm putting the phone down, and then he's sending me Instagram reels. And I'm like, bro, what are we doing? He did the same to me, he said, hey, checked out the show, great job, appreciate it, never have to worry about it with you, but here's the real, will you collab? And I was like, oh, you're working.
Got it, got it, got it. TJ, I cannot wait to do Cowboys Corner later today. Will you collab? Are you excited to talk a little Cowboys? We got some news about Michael Parsons coming up. Yeah, and so you have that knowledge, and then you're going to ask me, am I excited?
Like, based upon what you know? No, of course I'm not excited. I'm always excited to talk about my team though, but how are you today? Good? I was good until you just brought that up, and now it just brought me down a little bit. I will say, seriously, TJ is kind, and he said, hey, I'm going to go make a coffee run, would you like one? And it was like four minutes before the show, so I was like, how is he going to get back?
And here he is, back. It was like 9 20. I do want to do sports headlines and a few not, because in the last 24 hours, there have been quite a few updates, and I would say even kind of breaking stories, and we'll start with NFL. NFL owners have tabled voting on the tush push. So, tabled means they're going to do it again in May, and the Packers, I guess, were the ones to bring this up, and do the Packers look weak, because they're the ones bringing it up? Like, you know, I think everybody doesn't want it but the Eagles, but one of the teams has to bring it up, and do they draw straws, and it's like, all right, you guys have to go bring it up.
You got to look like the weak ones. Yes, and so the NFL owners have tabled it. They will not have any sort of ruling on the tush push.
I want to play a clip, before I go to you guys, of Sirianni talking about injuries, and if they happen, and his data during the tush push. You've made the point that there's no injury data associated with it. There haven't been injuries. I didn't make that point.
They did. But then, sort of the counterpoint that others have made seems to be there's injury concerns about it, because of the nature of it, and the forces. I mean, do you think those concerns are valid at all?
Do you have any? Just, you know, again, I know what the data says, and I know how we coach it, and we don't coach a push play any different than we coach a quarterback sneak play. So, like, you know, that, if, you know, it's, yeah, again, the injury data says what it says, and we coach it the exact same, whether somebody's pushing or whether somebody's not pushing, and I know that play's been, I think somebody said something about Bart Starr running the play a long time ago, so that play's been in for a very long time. There's probably a lot of injury.
There's probably enough data on that play to get information from you. If I were king of football, which I would love that title, not sure if it's up, but if I were king of football, I would allow the tush push one time a half. I wouldn't cut it, because then the Eagles are victorious and outsmarting everyone for the history of time, and I wouldn't like that if I were another team. So, I would allow once a half, but I wouldn't cut it. But the thing about the tush push that is so boring is that it's so boring on television. Maybe I would allow it inside the five as many times as you want, but I hate it when it's, like, fourth and one from the 38 and they do it, and they do it again, third and one from the plus 27, and it's, like, all tush push all the time.
Like, that's boring, and in the end, that's what wins the entertainment value, the product. That's why we can't hit our quarterbacks anymore, because if they're hurt, the games aren't as good. And so, the tush push is fair, the torpedo bats are fair.
I think it's going to be different. Torpedo bats are going to make the game more fun. The tush push makes the game a little more boring to watch, and I think eventually there will probably be a, okay, we're just not going to allow you to pull or push players, and it will not be specifically tush push related, but that kind of exists now where you can't grab a player and pull him into the end zone. Like, that's supposed to be a rule. And if there's a scrum, you can't pull guys off. Defensive players can't push. They'll just reinforce that, right?
And that will eliminate the tush push instead of going, we are now anti-tush push. Because that would look so weak to just eliminate a play that's fair. And it just seems like you're piling on. It seems like an anti-eagles play, which, TJ, I know you're into because you don't like them, but it's like, I feel like this team is so good at it, and it's boring, and it's kind of messy. Let's ban it. Man, that's not really the spirit of sports, right? The spirit of sports is to try to stop it, and to have the playing field be level. I do think, though, it eventually will get kind of retooled so that it slowly gets eliminated because, like you said, it's not very eye-appealing, and it's not aesthetically pleasing, and it does kind of slow the game down a little bit, and it's a little muddy.
And to use your torpedo bat example, that's pretty interesting because this makes it fun. Chicks did the long ball, and chicks do not dig rugby scrums for a one-yard touchdown. And I think that because of that reason, that's why this play, I think, will ultimately, in a couple of months when they reconvene in May, I think will get modified.
I think the modification will be led by non-tush-push language because, again, they can't just go no-tush-push, but they can go after further review of whatever hand-picked data they want to pick because, Lord knows, you can pick any data and make it work. Because you're right, for the integrity of the game, you can't cut a play because it doesn't work, but for the integrity of what's entertaining on television, which is the number one product, which is where all the money comes from, like, it's boring. It's boring.
We can't have boring television, and that's what sports is all about, us not being bored and sitting and playing fantasy and watching games. Next one up, NFL. Overtime changes. Both teams will now be able to possess the ball in overtime in the regular season, even if a team scores their first offensive touchdown. This should have happened a long time ago, but I'm not going to hate on it because they're just now doing it.
I'm going to be happy because they are doing it now. You know, they had modified this to do it in the playoffs only. But now it will be every game. This from Schefter.
It's a tweet. NFL owners have now passed a rule that both teams will be allowed to possess the ball in overtime in the regular season. The original proposal was for a 15-minute overtime.
That has now been amended to 10 minutes. I also hate ties. An NFL tie feels so weak because I criticize soccer for ties feeling so weak. And I got a lot of, I know nothing about soccer, by the way. So I have a lot of ways to fix it. Since I know nothing about it, man, I can fix soccer like 10 different ways. But isn't this the most common sense rule change of all the things that we've read so far that probably should have happened a few years ago, but bureaucracy things take a little bit of time to happen. But yeah, both teams in overtime should have a chance, even if one scores a touchdown.
Completely disagree, but I lost this battle a long time ago. Football is a three-phase sport. You know what those phases are, Bobby? Offense, defense, special teams. They all work together. They're all equal.
33 and a third percent, right? So all of these rule changes have been like, no, no, no, the only thing that matters is offense. Well, what about defense? What about kicking?
What about stopping them? No, no, no, no, no. Offense. That's all that matters. So that's what this rule is. I lost this battle a long time ago.
I've accepted it. Look, coin flip, whatever, fine. Stop them. Stop them, and then you score, you win.
If you can't let up a score, and then no, no, we get a chance. That's not in the spirit of football. That's not Vince Lombardi. That's not Curly Lambeau. That's not George Hallis. Why are you going all black and white? That's not football.
You go with leather helmets? That's where you are right now. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Every rule change in the NFL today is for offense. Yes, you know why? Back to level one of it looks, it's fun, it's entertaining.
It has to be, or we don't watch it anymore. The person sitting in that chair has told me he loves 13 to 10 games. Not me. I'm sitting in this chair, and I don't love 13 to 10 games. 10-7, great defensive battle. No, no, and I don't like 1-0 baseball games either. You don't like a good pitcher's duel?
I do not like, no, I do not. So if you don't like any of that, why wouldn't you want rules that would increase the scoring? Well, the three phases of your game, I'm just using what you just said, are offense, defense, and coin flip. That would be the three.
No, no, no, no, no, no. Because there is a disadvantage based on a coin flip right when overtime starts. So then change the opening coin flip to be like, oh, you either take the ball here, second half, or overtime. You take the chance that there might be overtime, then you get the ball first. Change that rule. Don't like add extra time, let both teams get the ball.
How about you stop someone? You're the dealer asking me if I want to split sevens before you even throw a handout. I'm confused now. What's happening? Splitting sevens, eh.
Only against a six. I think this is a great change. I think it's a common sense change. I love it. And if it's about integrity, like you had mentioned a few minutes ago, you're Mr.
Integrity, Chris. I'm surprised. This is the least integral opinion I've heard from you. I just don't like the constant rule changes for something that wasn't ever broken.
Like, think about it. The only reason- It was broken. It was very broken.
It was not at all. The only reason this happened is because the Bills couldn't play defense for 13 seconds. And then they bitched and moaned.
And then they got well done. Both teams get a possession now. Or the Chiefs and the Falcons couldn't stop the Patriots in overtime.
They gave up a touchdown. You shouldn't get a chance to tie the game after your defense just got worked for 80 yards. You're putting way too much on the coin flip in overtime. Way too much on the coin flip. That's it. That's the only reason I don't feel like- There's always been a coin flip, okay?
Play defense. But the coin flip at the beginning of the game is a bit different because you've got two halves and then you get the even up at halftime where the other team gets the ball at half. That's even. That third period, that is an uneven coin flip. We're talking about even now?
Sports are now even and fair? We're talking about integrity. And you know what? Right now- Interesting. You lost it.
All of it. I still like you, though. Speaking of integrity, Aaron Rodgers. He got together with Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver DK Metcalf. And I actually had a buddy call me last night to go, hey, I saw Rodgers throw into DK Metcalf at UCLA. And then it was in this morning, I was reading about it. I thought I was coming in with a hot scoop, boys.
I thought I was coming in. But I guess you guys probably knew that already. But yeah, Aaron Rodgers, DK Metcalf, playing a little catch, working out a little bit. So we're feeling it closer and closer of Rodgers to the Steelers.
Yeah. Where else is he going to go except he's going to wait and possibly land in Pittsburgh. But if he's throwing with DK specifically, first of all, I think they would hide it more if they wanted to hide it, right? This is my Aaron Rodgers needs fish food for all the fish. Like, he needs to eat his little fish food. That's how he's fed with being in the headlines. This is purposefully happening in public. And I don't mind it, but any news indicating from yesterday to today, Chris, that you've seen that Aaron Rodgers may end up with Pittsburgh, any more so?
Seems like it's almost inevitable at this point. I just thought it was funny, TJ, the video that I saw of the one pass that Rodgers threw. Remember when a couple of years ago and Tua threw a bomb and they tweeted it out, but it was actually a terrible pass and it was kind of floating in the wind. Rodgers threw kind of a duck and I'm just like, this is the video?
Like, you have a handpicked photographer there to take all these pictures and put it on his Instagram that you can be like, oh, leaked images of Rodgers and DK throwing at UCLA. No, no, you handpicked all of this, right? And that's the video you chose to let out?
Not a perfect NFL films type spiral with the tight zoom and then the fade. No, no, you chose to release a duck. I'm hiring a new digital guy, but this was completely on purpose. Your boy Reid should have been out there. What was going on? Reid would have known not to put me throwing a duck out. Not to put the duck pass out. He would have done one of those Photoshop type things where Tom Brady throws it back into the jug machine that comes back at him.
That's the kind of stuff Reid would have done for me for sure. Um, a non-sports story, you guys watch black mirror at all. The show black mirror on that. That's my favorite show ever. Oh, it's complete twisted. It's the greatest show that's ever been invented in the history of shows.
You like dark and twisted. Uh, I do. And we're two weeks away from season seven premiere. Uh, with the white Lotus finale is coming up this weekend. I'm my, my wife has been watching white Lotus.
I have not. And she did something for me recently where she, I was going to watch season or episode one of season two of squid game, which I love squid game. And she was like, I'll catch up. I'll start season two until, but I said, well, it's two days away. And she goes, I'll watch every episode. I'm like, you can't do that. So she did.
And she crammed it all in on like a Friday and a Saturday. And so I'm trying to cram in all of white Lotus until the finale. And here's the thing about white Lotus, any white Lotus watchers here. Yeah.
Okay. Uh, no, obviously no spoilers because I'm not there yet, but I like it while it's on. I don't crave going back to it, but once I get to it, I'm, I'm good, but I don't, I can't like right now. I'm not like I'm dying to see what happens next, but once I hit play, like I'm in, it's a weirdest show like that.
You were watchable. It's not one of those things like, Oh man, I can't wait to go rewatch breaking bad or Sopranos or something. I feel like white Lotus. Isn't really one of those shows, but like you said, when you hit play, I kinda, I kinda fall in.
I'm at the resort with them. I'm kind of along for this slow burn journey, twisted, messed up life that they're all leading. I'm with you. I like it. I'm just not dying to get back to it though.
But it's fun. March madness, final four power rankings and picks against the spread. So here we go.
If you were to rank the teams one, two, three, and four, who would I put Duke at one Chris easily hands down, TJ, all we all, we all there. Okay. I mean, I've got them winning, so yeah, I have no choice.
Yeah. But I have Auburn winning cause I picked them early and I don't have them at one. I've got Florida at two Houston at three and Auburn at four in my new power rankings.
And for those interested in, and if you do like to place a little money on action, if it is where you are a Duke, a four and a half point favorite versus Houston and Florida is a two and a half point favorite versus Auburn. So I think this, this is an exciting battle of the brands matchup as boring as this kind of was getting to this point with no real Cinderella. I do like the final four being big time brands. I think it's pretty cool.
And then go ahead. No, I was just gonna say, I like that Florida is back in this, you know, they're the last kind of mini dynasty. We had the last team to go back to back.
So I liked that. It could be them and Duke, you know, everyone's talking about this being the maybe the best Duke team ever. It's Cooper flag, the best freshmen, you know, ever in college basketball history. No, obviously not still Carmelo Anthony. And so I liked that those two could kind of face off in a, in a battle Royal Florida basketball excites you.
No. I liked the fact that I liked the storyline of them being back in it to prevent Duke when they were the last team to go back to back here. He doesn't just Florida basketball like does not excite me at all.
Any dupe doesn't get the heart pumping. No, no, no, no. Like Noah does. I remember that dude. TJ. Yeah.
I do. And Corey Brewer is Florida. The best collegiate athletic program of all time.
Meaning basketball, football, baseball, like, like that, that's, that's a meta question, but maybe in the last 50 years, last time they won a football championship or 90 sure. But that counts. I mean them or Stanford.
I mean, there's a few that just come to mind. Stanford has golf. Now we can't do like swimming. We do track. Arkansas is in there. So we can do that. LSU. LSU is a good one.
Cause the women have won a title, not the men necessarily, but the football team and the baseball team are both always gymnastics. Yeah. See, I put us down a road.
I want to go down. And finally torpedo bats, LA Dela Cruz went off last night, went off. I don't think his home runs have landed yet where I think if it would have happened tonight, I would have thought it was April Fools that they were, cause I was watching as the game was going on and he had a single, a double, two home runs, uh, he had seven RBIs. They won 14 to three and the torpedo bat was in action. He was up 12. They were up 12 to nothing. The reds Ellie's at bat, needing a triple for the cycle.
And he hits one four 40 off the wall and center. The torpedo bat is going to keep the mound from being lowered. This is just me making a baseball because again, let's lower the mound because they should raise the mound. Well, it's, I do think that the advantage that was pitching is now going to be equaled by this bat, which I'm just surprised that they haven't done this earlier because we fit golf clubs to people. This is like fitting a golf club to a player. Like when you're swinging, where are you hitting the ball on the bat?
Let's make it fatter there. Yeah. It was super interesting. I was listening to Bryson Stott of the Phillies talk about this yesterday and there is a hit lab. It's literally like, if you've been fitted for golf clubs, you go in, they got simulators, they got cameras, they measure, you know, how you're swinging, where you're hitting it on the face. Same thing with the bat.
And so if you're a guy that, you know, hits it higher on the end of the bat, the torpedo bat is not for you and it's not going to work. But if you're a guy who, you know, has an inside swing and you're getting jammed a little bit more, this, it is perfect for you. So it's like funny to see these guys kind of use this thing in the results of the weekend. It's kind of taken over major league baseball, which is kind of fun and quirky to start the year like this. Man, I just, where's this going though?
Is it going to be a topic all season long? My final thought on the torpedo bats, because I do want to get to coach drink in just a second is the players that hit a lot of balls off the end of the bat, I can't wait to see like the fat head at the end. Like that's where, that's where the fat is. Like all the bats have a different part of fat on them, depending on where you hit.
That would be the beauty of it. Next, one of my favorite football coaches, the university of Missouri, coach Eli Drinkwitz coach drink is coming on with us. He has so much to say all the time. I love him.
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What about your current runner head coach? He is the kind of guy that we will be having a conversation with you and he'll never be looking at you and he'll be going, how was your day? You had a good day and you start telling him how your day was.
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Call click Grainger.com or just stop by. I'd like to make it a Shakespearean analogy if I may. And I hope this doesn't catch everybody off guard, but our next guest is the Romeo to my Juliet. You know, Romeo was a Montague Juliet was a Capulet and a coach drink from Missouri. I should hate him with every part of my body because I am a diehard Arkansas fan and he is the Missouri head football coach. And all he does is beat us and talk crap, but I love him coach.
You can't get enough. You're the Juliet. I'm the Juliet.
One of the two. Good to see you coach. You know, you might be the most versatile, uh, radio host or TV show host in the country.
You know, we're doing all these draft analysis, you know, at some point they need to do an analysis of the different hosts, um, for all these different shows. I think you, I think you're like a utility player. I am. I'm, I'm pretty good at a lot of things and we did measure my arms yesterday, uh, just to see in case the draft and I had, uh, extremely long arms and larger hands and Kenny pickets. So, uh, six one with like nine and a half inch hands.
So, uh, feeling pretty good today and thanks for the compliment coach. I do want to talk about big hands, right? Not true though.
I can tell you just from, it's not true. Big gloves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I was talking about, it's better for you to be able to hold the football in cold weather. I don't know where you were going for that.
That was not it. Let's talk about the drafts that you bring it up. Uh, you got MIMBU, uh, excellent lineman. Are you getting a lot of calls? They go, Hey, what kind of guy is he? Or what do they ask whenever you have a player that's about to be drafted?
Man, it ranges, uh, different organizations ask different questions. You know, the first conversation really with Armand, uh, is it's all about his age. You know, what's his maturity level like obviously early enrollee early, uh, NFL entry, um, kind of background information, what character at, you know, what, what character, and then everybody in the NFL is always consumed with like, what's your comp, what's your comparable offensive lineman that you've coached in the past that we would recognize. And so those are kind of the questions we're getting right now with Armand, um, the different questions for, I know you didn't ask about it, but Luther are all about, you're hearing some of these anonymous quotes or anonymous scouts.
Um, and so now these go into what is the real truth? You know, I, we had one, um, I guess he's, uh, uh, still on the draft. I don't know. He's not on ESPN anymore for whatever reason.
But, uh, you know, he said that Luther burden was a diva. And, uh, so trying to, to counteract some of those conversations and questions has really been what I'm doing. I've talked to a lot of GMs, uh, talking to a lot of position coaches and, and giving them the truth of who these players are. Is a lot of your day now draft related? Because again, you have, I mean, we could go bird and we could go, you know, you mentioned my member, even like Brady cook and people may be calling, like, is that a lot of what's happening right now?
Because we are getting so close to the draft. Yeah. It really is. Ever since pro day, uh, we were on spring break. I was with my family and I'm spending a lot of time talking on the phone. Uh, I was at dinner twice talking to two GMs about different guys. Uh, and you're absolutely right. Brady cook, Theo, we've Johnny Walker are all getting conversations too about what is their character? Uh, what are we missing?
What don't we know? Um, and, and it's, it's been really fun. I think the best one to talk about though, has been for me, it's been, you know, having conversations about Luther burden, uh, because there are these like quiet critics out here who say he has a character problem. And, and, you know, my, my response to everybody has been, uh, he's never been arrested. Uh, he's never had a public incident at our university. Uh, he, he has never once been to my office to complain about his role. Never once complained publicly about I'm not getting enough touches, um, has just been a great teammate and all American, uh, you know, throughout his time here, never once came in to go, tried to renegotiate NIL never one time heard from him, his parents or his agent about his NIL contract every time just said, I'll trust you. Never once was the highest paid player on my football team and yet people are out there saying stuff, uh, from the shadows. And so that's honestly been the funnest thing is being able to combat rumors with truth.
Um, and that's always a fun part of your job. Now I'm not going to ask you to fundamentally fix NIL, but something we're seeing now in basketball that also happened in football was the, the NIL portal. They're so, uh, they live together now basically in the Venn diagram and like the portals open as the tournaments happening during bowl season, the portal was open while the games are still being played. So I'm not asking you to fix everything, but shouldn't they fix the dates on when this can actually happen? I mean, one of the fundamental problems that we have within sports right now with college athletics is we try to run a multi-billion dollar industry, uh, through the lens of 22 sports specifically within the sec. And you cannot find rules that adequately work for football and, uh, wrestling or baseball or, uh, golf, men's golf or women's soccer. Like they're all different, but we're trying to establish a settlement or a rule for everyone in trying to have an umbrella and just doesn't work, you know, specifically.
Yeah. I mean, we're ruining an awesome sweet 16 and final four, or we're, uh, in my opinion, greatly hurting, um, the playoffs because the conversations aren't about the teams on the field. They're about who's in the portal and what's their team going to look like next year. And it just takes all of the focus off of the wrong things. You know, I think the NFL is a master at what they do.
They have figured out how to be in the new cycle every month. They have something related to the NFL every month, whether it's free agency, whether it's the combine, whether April is all about the draft and owners meetings, we haven't figured out how to do that. And the problem is it's because, um, we're trying to solve everybody's issues with one umbrella and it's just not going to be able to do that. You know, fundamentally the issue that football has is it doesn't line up with the academic dates. So, you know, if we were to try to remove the portal, uh, window from January to the end of the, the, the playoffs, you'd be in the middle of February. Well, the problem with that is young men wouldn't have the ability to enroll in schools. Basketball doesn't have that issue. So I don't understand why basketball couldn't wait until, uh, you know, April 7th to open their portal for 15 days and then, and then let people figure out where they're going in May. But again, I got my own issues with football.
Coach Drink is on with us now from the University of Missouri. There was a brief time where I was being, I'll even say recruited, not for sports, but to run for governor of my home state. And once I learned it was all being on the phone asking for money, I was like, I'm kind of out. Like that feels very boring.
Like I just want to go and make decisions. And so is that more of what your job is now than it's ever been is just trying to find ways to make sure your players are adequately covered financially? Yeah, that's what it's been for the last three, three and a half years. But I hope hopefully with the new revenue share revenue and all that, that'll kind of funnel into the athletic department side and just go back into the fundraising for that and it won't be a sport specific and maybe not even above and beyond what you're trying to do for the revenue share piece. And hopefully you're actually just taking the money that you're generating through the revenue that you're making as an athletic department, not having to ask. I think that the struggle with, with NIL and money while right now is why it's not sustainable is because you're asking boosters and donors to go above and beyond their commitment from tickets and, and, and scholarship donations and, and suites and all that stuff.
And at some point that's going to always run out of money. So hopefully you can tie it into the rev share. But I did see, you know, with the Razorback suite 16 appearance, I saw where you were on the, you know, giving a, another 50,000 or something to, to, to their NIL. So that was pretty good. I mean, that kind of got you on the hook. I swear to you, I did not know that was public. I did not like, I don't mind, cause you're not making a joke for another 50.
Great job, Cal. Wait, did you literally see that somewhere? This is a real question. Or did you make that up? Cause that's an example. I swear.
That's an exit. No, you didn't see it on my Twitter. That's an exact number of an amount I do. Somebody's hacked into my account and coach Drake is the one that, that, wow. Okay. I'm a little shook right now because I did, I did donate $50,000 to the, and I didn't know anybody knew that.
And now Drake just put me on blast, but apparently it wasn't blast. It was public. Okay.
I got some people to hit up after this interview. All right, coach. I see what we're doing here.
What an awesome thing, man. I mean, seriously. I ain't giving it to you. Yeah.
Yeah. I ain't giving it to you. You guys have enough. You guys are getting, you guys are doing awesome.
I don't know. You guys have all the players. Coach, how are you getting in players out there?
Like what is your pitch? Obviously everyone is trying to make sure the players are, are, are financially stable, but what's the pitch about coming up to Missouri? Man, honestly, I think it's recruiting is all about selling what you believe you're going to do in the future, what you've done in the past. And for us, you know, with guys like Armand, Mimbou and Luther burden, we were selling what we believed we could do. And we wanted to recruit the best players in our state and keep them home and develop them and put them in the NFL. And you look at what we've done, you know, with, with Luther and Armand, a guy from St. Louis, a guy from Kansas city who were highly recruited.
And in three years, both of them are going to be first round draft picks that came in there. They got the opportunity to play. They were developed with an elite edge by Ryan Russell and our strength staff. They had unbelievable coaching.
They were putting in a great situation by playing in the sec to put their, their talents and skills to use. And, and then obviously they're going to get to, to do that on Sundays down in the NFL. So I think when you have things that you can sell tangible evidence, it's really good.
And then when you don't, you have to sell a vision for what you believe is in the future. And, you know, unfortunately for us right now, the university of Missouri and our fan base is buying what we're selling. You know, we've got a $250 million North end zone project going right now. We've got two first round draft picks and we've put together a really talented football team for this upcoming season. And so hopefully, you know, last year we had a first round draft pick. This year, I believe we'll have two first round draft picks. And so for us, the challenges are for our staff and for our player acquisition is we got to go make sure we have another first round draft pick. And that's how you build into the program that, that we want to become. Coach got me a little shook right now with that donation announcement.
I didn't know that. I didn't even know that was public, but see, this is why I love you. And I'm going to switch the script up a little bit because I do a lot of shows and I'm in a lot of places hopefully, and things are going pretty well. And there are times where I just say stuff that I know is going to get picked up because it's like, well, yeah, I'm going to say something. It's probably going to catch people in a weird way.
And I know that it's going to make some noise. You say a lot of stuff, coach, that gets picked up in odd times and places. Any of that ever on purpose or sometimes are you just, you're just feeling it and they catch you off? Both.
Both. I think the, the one I had a couple of years ago about Tennessee was totally, I did not anticipate that to go the way it did. I think early in my career, I made a comment about Kirk Herbstreet that I did not anticipate to go the way it did. But now that I've sat in the seat and understand, you know, the, the microscope that a head SEC coach has now I'm a little bit more aware of what I say. I think two years ago I made a comment about you know, conference realignment and how I disagreed with it for, for the fact that it was a football decision and not really based upon what was best for the student athletes all the way across the board. And I knew, I knew that would get picked up and ran with, and I was comfortable with it. I was comfortable with my comments and comfortable with my stance. And so I let it rip.
So again, I think it's early in my career, I didn't really understand it, but now I'm to the point now where I understand what, what it said and how it's going to be taken. Greatest hits for me is the Tennessee one you're talking about. We stand on business. Is that the one you're talking about at the midfield? Yeah. Yeah.
That was a, that was a miked up moment I knew I was wearing a microphone, but I thought for sure we would have creative control and be able to catch that and make sure that that didn't become public. And yeah. My other favorite is this last season when Cook was hurt and you were like, you're lucky we don't have our starting quarterback and they kind of caught you over there on that one. I liked that one too. That was a good one. Yeah. That one, I didn't really understand that was going to be on there. That was another one that, you know, in the heat of moment, like again, last year on the sidelines, Barstool Sports caught me against Mississippi State.
You know, I, I didn't really think that one would go anywhere either, but it did. And it's all right. It is what it is. Yeah. And I didn't think coach would come on and say, I just gave $50,000 to the school and it is what it is.
You know? I mean that's why I love them. Bro, I mean, that's a serious flex just to be dropping 50K.
I wasn't flexing though, like there was no, the flex wouldn't have been me saying it. I mean, you're like a super booster. Like dude, you would be like at this level, you know, like sideline passes and, and, and I mean, you ought to be in the locker room celebrating with Cal when they go to sweet 16. I bet Pippen would have you down to the, to the, to the lake house, man, when you're down there at Oklahoma sometime. You know what, coach, I'm going to say this because this is, this is why I love him. He's triggering me a little bit and not even at him, but it's like, you know, I'm a few hundred grr into the program and I can't even get a call back sometimes. I bet you if I was giving that money to Missouri, I'd be getting calls back, wouldn't I? Yeah. You'd be getting text messages pretty, pretty regularly, but hey, here's the deal, man. You got, you got nothing but excitement in the future, man.
I think Sam put together a really good football team and I've been watching what they do out of the portal, obviously, cause we play them, obviously what coach Cal did with the basketball program was awesome and shoot baseball with coach Van, Van Warren is always really good. So you just keep investing. Their time's coming, man. I want to ask you. And I know they appreciate you. I know they do. You don't know they do. I don't know they do.
They don't let me know. But let me ask you this. You were, you're a former high school coach. Does that affect your relationship with high school coaches now because you've been in their shoes?
Yeah. I think it always helps me develop real relationships with those guys and understand where they're coming from. You know, I don't always get their players and I don't always get it right. You know, in recruiting their guys, sometimes they want me to take guys that I can't take, or sometimes they send guys to other places. But we have a good enough relationship that I can understand where they're coming from.
They can understand where I'm coming from. I've got another guy on my staff, Rick Jones, who is from Arkansas in Oklahoma, who does a great job maintaining those relationships, cultivating those relationships. Again, when we stepped foot at the University of Missouri, we said, in order for us to win at the level we want to win, we have to recruit this state better and harder than anywhere else. And I think we've actually been able to do that consistently. We've had a few leaks.
I mean, I lost Ryan Wingo to Texas and Aneas Williams to Notre Dame. So we haven't been perfect, but we've been pretty good. And if we can continue just to get a little bit better, a little bit better, then we'll continue to put this program where we want. I think we've done a pretty good job expanding our radius. We try to recruit 400-mile radius and continue to get the best players, whether it's in Illinois. We haven't really got into Iowa the way we want to. We've got into Arkansas a little bit, getting into Oklahoma and Kansas a little bit more. And if we can continue to do that, I think that's the key to our success.
Well, I love them and I shouldn't. It's Coach Drink from Missouri. Good luck, I guess. But yeah, I don't know, what do you say to Coach? Good to see you, Coach. And hopefully I'll talk to you again soon and I hope you have a great off season, I guess.
Hey man, again, if there's a versatility ranking, I mean, you've got the ability to be, you know, Dr. Filish, you've got the ability to host musical guests and radio, and now you're on the Rich Eisen show with the NFL Draft Prep, I mean, golly, that's pretty impressive, man. Keep up the good work. See, now we're good again.
He glazed me at the end and now I feel good about it. That's right. All right, Coach, have a great rest of the day. There he is. All right, buddy. Coach Drink from Missouri.
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It is April fool's day. So it's five minutes to air, my phone's on the desk and it's buzzing and I see it is, you know, it's Jeff Garland. And of course, you know, well, I, I connect with Jeff and he's very, he's very upset. He's definitely one of the biggest bears fans that I know.
And he's always been very kind to show up on this show. I think he's very pissed off as a matter of fact, I think he's not only so very pissed off that he cursed on our Instagram page in response. Yup.
Yup. We have to, we have to, we have to black it out right there, go fill in the blank yourself. I will have my revenge is, is the caller there is the caller there on the recheck from Chicago. What's funny about it, nothing's funny about it.
Nothing is funny about it. Not a thing. Let me tell you something. I want to make this clear today is a beautiful, wonderful day. I had a delightful day filming Curb Your Enthusiasm.
I am in a great mood. And then our friend, Doug Robinson texts me, the Capitol, Russell Wilson, he says, you know, Rich doesn't usually get the scoops. Well, that should have made me suspicious, but no, I have so much respect for the Rich Eisen show that I know that they have connections that nobody else has.
Well, you know what, Rich? I'm not going to swear, but I got to tell you, you're a little social media boy. He's going to get his, oh my God. TJ, you traded off our gravitas, our brand of being a trusted name in news. And by the way, you're saying that kind of jokingly, but the reality is you, your show gets respect. Thank you. Thank you. TJ, do you have anything to say to Jeff Garland? Yeah. Happy April Fools' Day.
All right. Hey, TJ, you don't know what you brought down on yourself. You don't even have a clue. I'm ready for it. You know the powers that I have, especially in practical jokes, I'm going to nail you so hard.
Pause. You know what? I hope you enjoy your testicles right now because they're going to disappear. No, but I need them. That's funny. Like, that's just funny. Are you a April Fools' guy? I used to be. I got in trouble in my career. I've done some things. Oh, so you did a prank that people did not...
Many. And I've been fined a million dollars for different, we've had people put in jail. We've done things that keeps me from chasing elaborate stunts for the sake of it being a stunt. I got fined a million bucks by the FCC once that wasn't an April Fool's joke, but it really has kept me from dipping my toe back into the world of screwing with folks. See, Bobby, but I made it clear there. That was so simple. I didn't put much effort into that, I just posted a meme and we didn't get fined. We did once.
We had a little fake plush dog and we put balloons on it and floated it up. And it was, we were at, this is a long time ago and everybody freaked out and I just done a lot. So I stay away from April Fools' now. It's funny.
For the most part, yeah. That's pretty good. Bobby in for Rich, thank you guys for being here. Don't let the urge to sing along to that catchy tune distract you from that truck drifting towards your lane or that lane splitting bike or creeping up beside you. Fortunately, every Hyundai offers advanced safety features that can alert you to potential dangers around you. And Hyundai has over 120 IIHS Top Safety Awards since 2006 because Hyundai is always working to ensure the road doesn't get you.
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You can listen to the podcast, which I listen to almost every single night. My wife, I forget you're not making fun of me. There's a very small difference between Borat and Guy from Arkansas, just so you guys know the accent. Just know we would never make fun of you to your face. Okay. Fair enough. We would. We absolutely would.
I'd rather do it to his face. Secondhand. My wife, you guys are on the allowed list because I used to go to sleep with the television on when we first got together and it would always be watching TV when we fell asleep. Can I wrap up real quick? You keep saying my wife. What's the Mrs. name? Her name is Caitlin. Caitlin? Caitlin.
Yeah. Caitlin. Hi Caitlin. And she's not listening.
Don't worry. She has no interest in this. And so she would be like, man, I can't sleep with the TV on. So I'm like, how about a podcast?
If I keep a podcast on at night, like under my pillow, I need something on, some sort of stimulation to fall asleep. And I'll listen to you guys most nights and she knows you and you are on the approved list of energy, but not too energetic. Oh, okay. Yeah. We don't get on here.
Yell and scream a lot. Yeah. Price is right though. Sure. That went a couple of times. She's like, okay, we can't do that one. Yeah.
I can't do that. But that was exciting times here though. That very much was, you know, I want to go to Ryan the roofer in Philadelphia. Who's on the phone right now to talk to overtime rules. Hey Ryan, welcome to the rich eyes and show on Bobby bones. How's it going, man? Hey Bobby, how you doing, man?
Really good. What do you think about this? I think that I think the NFL is complicating it.
Like they do everything else. I think, uh, we started out with one adjustment to overtime and that wasn't good enough. So we added another and another, and it's just one bad ID on top of another. I think they need to simplify it, take it down to an extra period, 10 or 15 minutes. And if any team scores consecutive, the game's over that keeps all three phases of the game intact that adds sudden death and it guarantees each team gets to touch the ball consecutive. You mean they need to score twice, twice in a row. Yeah.
Like, okay. So the bills, she's staying the 13 second game. For instance, she's to her field goal pills, get the ball back, stay three and out.
She's score another field goal games over. I mean, I hear you. That just seems like we're complicating it even more. I think they're de-complicating it by just going, we're going to treat this like we do the rest of the game. Okay. That's what they're doing with the new rule. If you guys missed it earlier, overtime rules is both teams now get a chance to touch the ball just like in the real, the first quarter, second, you know, the first half you flip the coin. Okay. You get the ball at the beginning. I don't know.
It's just, I was, I actually called the last time this was an issue and I was on hold the whole time and I didn't get to talk on it. I just, I don't know. I just feel like it needs to be simplified, an extra period of play, whoever's winning at the end of it wins, but sudden death aspect is if any team scores consecutive, it doesn't necessarily mean it has to end in sudden death. It could just be, you know, a 10 minute period to the end and whoever's winning wins. It sounds like you and Chris would just like there to be a coin flip and that picks the winner of the game.
Wait, here's, here's you. No, just flip a coin and if it heads, the bills win, if it tails, the Chiefs win. You kept coming back to the, you know, it gives the advantage to the team that wins a coin flip.
It's actually the opposite. It gives the advantage to the team that gets the ball second because the team that gets the ball first, they're really operating under the three down and then on fourth down we either kick or kick a field goal or maybe touch push if it's fourth and one, right? But if, and say they kick, say they do kick a field goal, right? Well, the second team that gets the ball knows that they will have all four downs at their disposal to go for it. So now instead of being a three play to get 10, to get 10 yards and then you kick or do whatever, now it's four plays to get 10 yards. The second team actually has the advantage now. I love your passion.
I would say the first two has the advantage because if they score a touchdown, it's over the end. No, not anymore. Well, not anymore. But I'm saying in the old system that you liked the old wild West Bay, where they had polio and everything was black and white and we all listen to AM radio. I think polio is coming back. It is. I sadly, it is coming back. I know. Uh, Bobby bones in for rich eyes and where we talk about polio and overtime roles here today. Uh, thank you guys for hanging out with us.
Check us out on the YouTube channel as well. I'm still, two things happened this morning that have shaken me a little bit physically. Number one, we are staying at the Hyatt near the airport. I've never stayed in a hotel as close to the airport. If it hasn't been the case where like my flight got canceled and they shoved me in an airport.
So we stayed because that's near ish where this studio is, but we just picked a hotel. And so this morning I thought I'm going to take advantage of the free breakfast. Oh, I love a free breakfast.
It was pretty money. Um, I think I had some sausage though that wasn't quite right. Oh, like it was not fully cooked or it was a little old and expired.
Like what part of not right? Yes. Okay. Yes.
Just a yes. And it was, it was a little cold and I knew initially it since it was cold, it definitely could have been confused for a tofu, but it wasn't so, so I'm not like, I feel an early indicator. Oh yeah.
Oh no. I probably, I probably shouldn't have eaten the cold sausage that could have been confused for tofu. Was it a, was it a, a Patty or a link? It was a question TJ because I think patties are safer because patties have to be cooked throughout because if they're pressed, they're pressed down a link.
Who knows what's in the outside? I think overall the breakfast was a win, although that might be a small loss. So I'm a little shaken by that physically. And now, and again, I I'm a little shaken by coach drink coming on, just throwing out my money out there.
Double B and I don't, I, you know, we don't need to say it again, but I just, that's why that guy's my favorite. And I knew he always comes with something and hits me from the side. Like I'm ready for him.
I'm ready to interview him and he hits me with, Oh, let me just throw some, I know how much money you just spent on this. You were shook on that one. I was, I was shook. I'm never shook. And I Bob deep up in here. I was shook. I'm like, wait a minute, did I, who told you that? That's it?
We got lucky just knowing the amount, but here we are, we're here today coming up though. We got a pretty cool set of guests, uh, Scott Pioli in just a second, who is one of my favorites, like as a person, uh, as an executive, as a guy now who just can see it from 10,000 feet above he'll be on. And then Matt Castle, who's my partner on our NFL podcast called lots to say who interestingly enough Pioli was part of the Patriots with castle and then traded for castle to come to the chiefs. Uh, and we'll also have Brandon Walker on in a bit as well, who was one of my favorite personalities. Uh, he's from Barstool.
Uh, he's on mostly sports and Mark Titus and Brandon Walker. And again, if you guys want to call us, we would love to have you call us. The thing is I threw my, I throw on my number sheets away. So I just eight, four, four, two or four, get the yellow pages. Yeah. Yeah.
Eight, four, four, two or four rich, eight, four, four, two or four rich close enough. All right. Thank you guys. Bobby bones in for rich eyes. Bobby bones, NBA veteran, Jim Jackson takes you on the court. You get a chance to dig into my 14 year career in the NBA, but also get the input from the people that will be joining Charles Barkley. I'm excited to be on your podcast, man. It's an honor. Spike Lee, entrepreneur, filmmaker, Academy award winner, but also how sports brings a life passion, music, all of this together. The Jim Jackson show part of the rich eyes and podcast network follow and listen on your favorite platform.
