The Jets Need To Let Aaron Glenn Do His Thing

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All right, everybody. Welcome to our number three of the Rich Eisen Show on the air. Just had a very nice chat with Chase Stokes in the back.

He's got a lot more hair than me, man. It's going to be a rough one. And it's interesting. He plays a guy named Brockman. So, you know, in the new film, Valiant One, check out that film in theaters nationwide this Friday. So many of you may know him for Outer Banks as well. And so we've been talking about that show quite a bit around here. We might as well keep it going when Chase joins us in studios at Georgia Bulldog Fence.

So you and Brockman, when I say Brockman, I mean Sergeant Brockman from the film Valiant One have something in common. Chris Brockman is where he is. DJ Mikey Diaz and Deez Nuts, Mike Del Tufa where he is. And TJ Jefferson is where he is. And you are where you are. And we could give us a call at 844-204-RICH.

Number to dial. So Ben Johnson was introduced as the newest head coach of the Chicago Bears. The offensive coordinator of the defensive lines is now the new HC of the Chicago Bears. According to all reports, it does appear the Lions are about to lose their defensive coordinator as well. And he is the newest head coach of the New York Jets.

A former first round pick back in 1994 is coming back to New Jersey to be the head coach of the New York Jets. And it is, as somebody who has been around the block with this franchise, this team in that area, an inspiring hire and one that should lend to some excitement because at least he knows what he's getting into. To be straight up.

To be as straight up as it possibly can get. He knows what it's been like to be around there. He knows about the highs of the Parcells era and the lows of when he was first there. And he totally understands when he walks into that building all of the DNA and the scars and all of the fan base hopes and desires.

And he has full knowledge of all of that. And a lion hearted individual and somebody who walks in and no doubt will command that room and that facility and that locker room. And hopefully will command the, what shall I say here? He will hopefully command the respect of the ownership structure to let him do it and get out of the way.

I can't be any more blunt about it. That if Woody Johnson, who was not the owner of the team when Aaron Glenn was hired, if he sees in Aaron Glenn, a future star head coach, giving him the opportunity to be a head coach for the first time for an organization and a fan base that he is very familiar with. And they with him to say, you are the guy, then let's let him be the guy and let him run the locker room.

Let him do everything that he wants to do. Let him install the culture and let him give out the game balls to whoever he wants to give out the game balls to and let him have the reign. And thankfully he is Woody's hire because again, apparently the Robert Saleh issue was he was not Woody Johnson's hire and that he was hired when Woody was out on walkabout as the ambassador to the United Kingdom where the jets are returning, by the way, this come and fall. And if Woody sees in Aaron Glenn, what a lot of people have seen in Aaron Glenn and what Aaron Glenn clearly laid out for this team, they didn't even do second round interviews after interviewing, wait for it, 17 individuals. Apparently is the final total. They didn't need to, he must've stood out enough that they were waiting for the Lions to be done and when the Lions were done, they bring him in and the intention was to not let him out of the building and kudos to them for not letting him out of the building.

Except to search for real estate in Northern New Jersey and restore some faith in the head coaching position for the ownership suite and restore the jets back into a conversation that this very talented roster should be able to affect. Who is the quarterback? I have no idea. Great question.

I have no idea. I have no idea what Aaron Glenn's opinion of Aaron Rogers is going to be. If it's going to be the two Aaron's, I have no idea. And Michael Kay was saying that he was interested in bringing Aaron Rogers back. Well, and again, it's not crazy of an idea if you are going to identify who's next. You cannot view Rogers as the absolute purel anymore.

That is not the way of going about it now. It can't be like, okay, the roster's ready to win now. Let's get Aaron Rogers, just add him to the mix and he's going to be the MVP quarterback and voila, we're going to see a green painted end zone in the Super Bowl.

Next year for Super Bowl 60 in Santa Clara, California, the Cal Bear is going to be back there in green because he's just going to show up. Good story. You know, like you can't sit here and say that you've got to now. This isn't about that anymore.

I'm sorry. This is about installing a culture and a structure to win for a long time. This isn't just like we've got the team. Let's just, we just, we just need the quarterback. That's all we've needed. That didn't work the last few years. Did it? Did it work the last couple of years? Did I miss anything? It has not worked.

So if you think Rogers can win enough games, heaven forbid you add Aaron Glenn and maybe it does wind up in Super Bowl 60. Fine. Great. Clearly you'll take it, but you got to find yourself. You're Jayden Daniels. You got to find yourself. You're Drake May.

You got to find yourself that person. Is he in this draft? I don't know.

One never knows. Everybody thought that Jayden Daniels was hopefully going to be the next CJ Stroud and we were saying that he was for about a month until he zoomed past him in the diamond lane. So, but this has got to be about Aaron Glenn and finding the general manager that Aaron Glenn is comfortable with and saying, this is your show Aaron, whatever you picked up in Detroit, whatever you showed with your abilities here, when you were a player here, whatever institutional knowledge you have of the Jets organization and the city and the area, whatever you bring to the equation, whatever your mantra is, your culture is, it's your show. And we will follow your lead and we will do this for a long time. Like the Rams are doing with their guy here, like the Patriots did with their guy there, or they hope to do with their new guy there and what the commanders are building right now.

I could go on and on and on. That's what the Jets should be focused on. And if Aaron Rodgers is that guy to come up and come in and come back and be the bridge and understand that that's what his role is going to be, as well as him can utilize the situation to get himself one ring before he leaves again, if he wants to do that, I don't think it's a crazy idea. What else are they going to do? You want to go back to the future and bring in Sam Darnold and pay him a lot of money?

I don't know. So that's the first order business for Aaron Glenn, but coming up with an idea for Aaron Glenn and how to make him succeed with the right general manager and just let him do his thing and get out of the way. Get out of the way. Just show up for games, go to the owner's suite, enjoy your life. Can't believe I'm giving Woody Johnson advice through the microphone, but I am. And good luck because there's a team that's playing in Kansas City this Sunday that has the continuity, has the quarterback, has the front office, has the ownership suite, all on the same lockstep level, which is what you want out of Aaron Glenn. Let's not just start spinning and say, oh, we're going to the Super Bowl.

Let's build because you're back in rebuilding mode. And the sooner you realize that, and if Aaron Rodgers wants a piece of that. I'll tell you what, though, one last thing while I'm on this, whoever the general manager is, your first order of business is wrapping up Garrett Wilson and making sure sauce and whatever caused him to respond to somebody who was the one who's saying, Oh, about, you know, let's get you know, you should talk to what was it?

You should talk to somebody to show up here. And he's like, yeah, I'm not going to do that. Yeah, I forget who they were talking about. Aaron Glenn, perfect guy to go to Sauce Gardner.

Sauce, we got this thing. There was a little bit about the position, so. Correct. So let me ask you, because you do have some talent on that team, when you said like a rebuild, this isn't a total rebuild, right?

I mean, you've got to get that QB situation settled, but you've got some talent on this squad, man. Yeah. And maybe they can add T Higgins, because that's who somebody was saying, you know, tell T Higgins to come show up here. And he's just like, I'm not going to do that.

So go to Sauce. Get him back is mine. Right. And Garrett Wilson needs to stay. That's the guy you can build around, because that's the guy who's not like losing. And then figure out the rest from there, but let him do it.

844-204 Rich is the number to dial. And one last thing on this subject, and then we'll bring out Chase. I've got a power, and we'll do at the end. And another thing. Hey, man, the Lions have lost both coordinators and their defensive line coach in the span of 24 hours. So you knew there was going to be some restructuring and whatever. And a lot of people thought this would happen to them last year and this year they had now three NFL head coaches on their sideline. And they won 15 games and they get one and done by Jayden Daniels. So this this is a very crucial period for the Lions. I know we're all focused on who's going to be the next head coach here and who's the next head coach there. And in terms of defensive coordinators, you know, Jeff Ulbricht, formerly of the Jets, he winds up in Atlanta. Luanna Rumo, formerly of Cincinnati, he lands a gig in Indianapolis, right? Is that where he wound up?

Yeah, I believe so. OK, so people are already off and running here. They're already off and running here, and Aaron Glenn's going to start hiring people. I imagine Aaron Glenn and Dan Campbell might have the same ideas on speed dial right now. So the race is on, which is why it was smart for the Jets to just say, we're not going to do a second round of interviews here out of the 17. Make it happen. You know, we're not going to bring bring back. Rex. For another swing at it, he was pounding the table for it.

Wanted it bad. No, I'm I know he's going to have to beat up Mike Vrabel twice a year from the set of Get Up. So the the Lions have got a serious. You know, we're all wondering about how they're going to react to this being one and done at home in the divisional round and what what they're going to do to put the pieces back together emotionally. But literally on their on their coaching staff, there are now three big jobs to fill. As they lost both coordinators and their defensive line coach was hired as the new D.C. in New England by Mike Vrabel. And you got to be wondering if they're going to lose anybody else. You know, is Ben Johnson going to go knock on the door of some of his former colleagues in Detroit? Is Aaron Glenn going to do something like that?

This is a very crucial period in for the Lions, and I'm eager to see who they're going to hire. Eight, four, four, two or four. Rich is the number to dial here on the Rich Eisen show before we throw it a break. Here's a riddle for you. Where to yoga mats, a toothbrush and a Hyundai I have in common. If you guess they're all fun, well-designed and super useful. You guess wrong. I mean, is a toothbrush fun anyway?

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And how much training did you do for this role, Chase? So we ended up we shot this in Vancouver, which is on the same latitude line as North Korea, hilariously enough. So there's some similarities there. Yeah, I was shocked on that. OK. Fun fact of the day.

Vancouver and North Korea had no idea. And we had a gentleman by the name of Todd Charbot. He is a twenty five year Navy SEAL master sergeant veteran who was our military adviser on this film. Oh, just the coolest dude ever. And he put us through a whirlwind of training. So we did about two weeks in Vancouver before we started.

And it was just kind of a life changing experience, now a lifelong friend and somebody that I've gotten to know really well. But he was very particular about how how everything was put together. And if there were scenes that were done that didn't look authentic, you shut it down immediately.

He would he would he would jump in. Oh, yeah. I mean, it scared me more than any pyrotechnics or. Oh, yeah.

I was like, oh, Todd's coming in. Got it. Yeah, because you don't want to disrespect. You want to respect. That's all you want to do.

Right. I was born in Annapolis. You know, my great grandfather, my great and my grandfather both served.

So it was very important to me to honor the integrity of of, you know, our military and be transparent about how they actually operate and give a voice to people who feel like maybe they don't have a voice. And I imagine you wanted to do something as well that's different from out of things as well. Although this this is a this is an outer it's not a bank, but this is really it's outside.

It's it's outside the DMZ. That's for that's correct. Yeah. I think, you know, I'm at this point in my career, the show's coming to a close. And, you know, I don't want to be John B. forever.

And it's been a blessing to play him and a place in my heart that I will hold near and dear. But right now, at 32 years old, playing a teenager is getting a little exhausting, trying to age out a little bit and do the next right thing. OK, so it's exhausting playing a teenager that you're like literally twice the age of a teenager.

Yeah. You know, like sometimes you read things and you're like, why is he doing that? And I'm like, oh, because I'm 32, I logically my brain has developed enough to not think like a teenager. So, you know, as time progresses, you start to get frustrated with that push and pull. But it's been fun, man.

It's been the most incredible start to my career and, you know, something that has become like a baby to myself and to the rest of the cast. So, yeah, I think, you know, when you get sort of categorized as a specific character, your natural progression is how do I not get categorized as a character? So I think I went, you know, about as far the opposite direction as possible.

I shaved my head on the last day of filming the third season. OK. Yes. And it felt like a clean break a little bit. Well, I mean, that's one way to make a clear break. You know, I do this out of necessity. Right. You know, what I've got on top of my head right now. So, you know, obviously I understand that would be a clean break.

Yeah, it was it was the aerodynamics were pretty incredible going from the floppy hair to to a little less than nothing. Well, we've had we've had Jonathan Davis on this program. I was at dinner with him last night and he's just good people.

He's also real tight with Bijan Robinson. I don't know. I know you're you're a Georgia guy, right? I am.

But you're more Bulldogs than Falcons, pretty much. Yeah. You know, it was it was definitely good this year.

Sorry to all the Longhorn fans, but it was it was good to see the dogs get that win. Uh huh. Right. Sorry to put it that way. So how did you so you grew up in the in the area?

Is that your connection? Just outside of Atlanta, Cherokee County. Right. And, you know, you got to kind of choose between Georgia Tech and Georgia.

Athens just seems like a way cooler place. Yeah. I've just always been a Bulldog fan and, you know, hell of a time to be a Bulldog fan. Yeah, I know.

Right. I mean, it's kind of funny because, again, your character in Valiant One is named Sergeant Brockman. And you're in real life, a Bulldog fan.

That's Chris Brockman over there who is essentially what? I've kind of adopted Georgia. I'll take it. Yeah.

My lady is diehard Georges. So it's been on a lot in the house. My college football team has not been good for a long time. So it was easy to kind of. He's a Syracuse guy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the dome school.

It's a cool place to play. I hear you. Yeah. But, you know, it's been rough.

It's so it was easy to do for the dogs. Very. It is my girlfriend's actually from Knoxville. So we have a serious divided house with with football. So were you rooting for Tennessee against Ohio State?

So just because of that or to make it even more complex? My stepdad, he actually went to Ohio State. Oh, so I have a stepdad who's an Ohio State fan. My girlfriend is Vols fan and my siblings and I are Bulldog fans. So it is like the triangle of chaos. Yes, indeed.

In my life for college football. But your girlfriend Trump's your stepfather, right? For sure. OK, let's be honest. Think about it.

What was it? It was almost three years ago now that Georgia beat Ohio State. That is, in fact, correct. Because I'm a Michigan Wolverine. So we can get along. We can get along. Certainly when when we're taking on the Ohio State University, my children, I've got three of them. They all understand there's two teams for Michigan football and anybody that's playing against Ohio State.

And that even included Notre Dame on Monday night, which is really weird for me. Yeah, I was going to say, how did that feel? It didn't.

It was terrible. And I'm done with it. Like, literally, it was a one night only situation. The curtain came down. We're closed.

We closed after one performance. And it was terrible. Yeah. So I'm not going to do that again. Yeah.

Unless, of course, they play each other in the national championship game again. But I was a Tennessee fan for one night as well. Yeah. Didn't work out for me.

But, you know, didn't work out for for your girlfriend either. I know that. But but for sure, you know, I I would root against Ohio State any day of the week. Yeah, that was the national championship was a was a tough evening in our household.

We were all sitting around the couch. Oh, yeah. I mean, three boys who are all Georgia fans versus my stepdad.

It's, you know, oh, I remember that night and outnumbered a little bit. Well, I remember that night because just as Ohio State was kicking either the game winning field goal or the end of the game, if they missed it, the ball was dropping on the East Coast. Yep. And my two of my three kids are not into football.

Yep. They were like, let's watch the ball drop. My youngest son, we had just gotten back from Arizona. We just landed where Michigan lost to TCU earlier in the day. And I flipped the channel to watch the ball drop. And I knew when I hit the, you know, return button on the remote, I was either going to be completely heartbroken because Ohio State had advanced.

Michigan would not after Michigan had beaten Ohio State. Yeah. Or I would be thoroughly elated. And it was a Happy New Year. It's a win-win right there. That's a win-win in my book.

I like that you call it a win-win. I've got Chase Stokes here on the Rich Eisen Show. But your first connection with sports is ice hockey. Is that the true story?

It was. Yeah. My mom, biological father, first stepfather, and her current husband is an Ohio State fan. Her second husband, he was born and raised in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area. Grew up playing hockey. Herb Brooks was his coach for forever. Are you serious? Yeah. Herbie and my grandfather actually were golf partners for a long time. No kidding.

Fun fact of the day. So it was kind of just ingrained in me as a young kid. So he shoved me on the ice.

And it was like a beautiful connective tissue between him and I. And we lived in the southeast where hockey was really starting to take off. Right. The Florida Panthers were coming into being, right? Atlanta. That was back when the Thrashers were around. The Thrashers. I played for the Junior Thrashers back in the day. You did?

I did. How about that? Do you still have a sweater from the Junior Thrashers?

I have the baby blue one. Okay. Yeah. So my first time getting ejected out of a game was checking from behind and playing for the Junior Thrashers.

All right. I was an aggressive player. So what do you mean you got ejected? You got a major misconduct? A major misconduct.

It was the first of many. A little anger issue, you know, to use hockey. Yeah. Yeah. I had a little fun doing it. You worked out your youthful anger on the ice?

I took it from that into yelling on camera, I think. Okay. By the way, much safer for others. Absolutely. Yes.

It's a less hostile environment. But yeah, I played pretty competitively up until he was like concussion number seven or eight and a torn rotator cuff. And then the doctor was like, hey, here's here's a thought. You can keep playing hockey or you can remember the conversations with your grandkids. And I was like 17. Get out of here.

I remember thinking like, that's such a heavy thought for a 17 year old to have. I'm going to quit hockey. Yeah.

So I gave it up and sort of realigned and tried to figure out what was next. Well, when did you turn to acting then? Right then and there?

No. So I had been doing television production in high school. And hilariously enough, my teacher was from Michigan.

Okay. So he was a big hockey guy. And I took the class solely to sleep in because I would have practiced too late and drive home and he would give me the first 20 minutes of class to sleep in. And I was producing, so I was behind the camera. So I didn't really have to be present.

So you can sleep in and just roll out of bed. Yeah. And I was like, all right, let's switch to the weather roller, you know, pushing buttons that I didn't really know what's going on in the back. That's what our sound guy does anyway. So don't worry about it. That's what our audio executive does.

A couple of levers here and there. Understood. We get it. And then one of the girls got sick and I knew run a show. So they were like, you got to get on the desk. And I was like, not doing that. Absolutely not. Like an anchor?

An anchor on the morning announcements. So I ended up doing it and I just kind of made a fool of myself because that's my self deprecating way of making things feel normal. Okay. And he was like, you should get into acting. And I was like, all right. I was living in Orlando, Florida at the time, so I don't really know how that operates.

And I eventually found my way onto IMDB. And back in the day, they had a back in the day. I make it sound like I'm talking about the 50s. But when I was in high school. You are 32 and having been around a while already.

Yeah. You know, I've been around a lot of men, but I got IMDB Pro and they used to have all the agents emails on IMDB Pro. I remember this. And so I'd made a business Gmail and claimed to be a manager saying, I've got this young kid from Orlando, Florida, who's got a great look and a lot of potential. And I emailed everybody and like one dude responded. And that was my first agent. And that's where it all started.

Well done. Remember, we got an IMDB Pro account when we started the podcast to try and reach out directly to PR people to get guests. Might have been right around the same time you got an IMDB Pro account. I feel like I'm responsible as to why nobody has an IMDB account. 2011, something like that. That's probably my fault. Is that right? Probably, yeah.

Nobody does it anymore. And so what was your first gig? My first gig was actually an episode on the show Stranger Things.

So I had. By the way, great first gig. Doesn't suck. Yeah, did not suck. I tested for both of the lead roles and did the table read back in the day when they were all tiny, tiny kids. Did you meet Spielberg at any point in time?

I didn't. I met the Duffer brothers. I met the rest of the cast. Seeing Winona Ryder in person made me freak out internally and externally. I mean, an icon, truthfully. And then, yeah, they literally called five months later and were like, hey, we really appreciated Chase putting forth the effort.

We have a small little bit part for him. So I drive by in one of the episodes and yell something at one of the main characters and go on my way. So that was kind of the first one and started doing commercials and all that. And then after college, I just packed my car and on my way. And how did you wind up on the Outer Banks radar screen? I asked this of Jonathan, so I'd love to get your two cents on yours. My experience versus Jonathan's was a little bit different. I had gotten the audition. And so a casting director that had booked me on a couple of jobs, her name's Lisa Fincan, an incredible person. They sent the casting over and they sent the breakdown and it said, John B, four friends on a treasure hunt. I thought it was a Goonies reboot immediately because they make the pseudo names and they don't want to give all the information. So I was like, no, I'm not doing this. And I shouldn't have, because, you know, early in your career when you have eight bucks in your bank account, you should take any opportunity available. And a couple of months later they reached out and they were like, hey, we still don't have our guy.

Will you read for this? And I was like, no, not going to be responsible for destroying the Goonies for this generation. That's not on my bingo card. And so they sent the script and one thing led to another. I realized it was not the Goonies.

It was different. And I read for it. Five, six days later, I got a call.

I said, you're taking a red-eyed at Charleston to meet with the creators. Four days later, I got the job. I asked to go home to get my clothes and they said, you can't leave. And I literally was using clothes from the costume department because I did.

I came with like a pair of shorts, flip flops and two T-shirts because I just didn't think I was going to get the job. So that was where it started for me. And, you know, it's almost been six years. Change your life, right?

It did. Yeah. Very thankful for that show and the people around it.

I mean, like I said, Jonathan and Madison Bailey were both not just costars. They're like family. We were at dinner last night just kind of talking about it, reminiscing on how crazy the last couple of years have been and how much it has truthfully changed our lives. Craziest thing they've asked you to do on that show? Oh, I don't want to get in trouble. I've done some wild things. I mean, I jumped off of, you know, like the third story of a boat this season. Speaking of concussions and ice hockey, I did get a concussion shooting Outer Banks.

We were doing a scene and I think it was the second season and a plane crashes and we jump out of a plane. And this one of my costars pushed the door open that I was holding and came back, hit me in the head and knocked me out cold and ended up in a hospital in Barbados, getting a CAT scan, looking at my a Barbados hospital. Yeah, that's a fun experience. Yeah. Wow. Fun.

Pretty fun. All I remember sitting there just entirely out of it. And they had a fish tank and in the x-ray room and I was like, how are these fish alive in an x-ray room?

But it was an x-ray fish. So what's the plot point that you needed to have explained to you over the last few years where you're like, OK, wait a minute that you get a script and you're like, wait a minute, this is what we're doing or like what? I think every season we keep getting well, I think the treasure hunt, you know, like these kids are pretty incompetent and they somehow find their way into these insane situations and then get out. So I think, you know, when we get our scripts, we build as we go so we don't get the entire season up front.

Is that right? Like a shell of an outline of the world that they're building. Why do they do that? I think they see things as it happens. I think, you know, our writers are really great about giving us the space to build within the script. And, you know, that's just a product of working together for so long and they trust us. So, you know, you see this like this last season, we went to Morocco and are going after this blue crown. And I'm like, how are we going to Morocco? Like, are we is this a real thing?

How do we make this happen? And every year we do it. And it's just been a byproduct of a ton of hardworking people who will admittedly tell you it is the most difficult, physically demanding show they've ever done in the business. But it is also in that same sentence, the most gratifying show that they have ever done. So it's just it's awesome, man. Like it's it feels like a mountain that you look at and you're like, there's no way I'm ever going to get up there. But year after year, season after season, we do it. So I'm very excited to give it one last run and move on to to hopefully ending the show and landing the plane.

That's important to me. It's not how the plane takes off. It's how you land it. Well, let's just hope when the plane lands, the door doesn't hit you in the head. We don't need any more.

Hopefully the landing gear is working. We don't need any more of that, Chase. None of it.

I'm 32. Tell me about Mark Men, which is available in theaters today, will be available on VOD in February. Tell me about that one. Yeah. So Mark Men is directed by the incredible Nick Cassavetes, who's done, you know, My Sister's Keeper, Alpha Dog, The Notebook.

Terrell Owens's favorite movie, I believe. Really? Yes, indeed.

All right. I like it. Hey, listen, in touch with his emotions. He has been for a long time. I like that as well. I've been in a poker hand with Nick Cassavetes. That does not surprise me. Knowing Nick, like he is he loves his cards. He sure does. I've spent a night with him around a poker table. He's such a good dude. It was fun listening to his stories.

So many stories. Oh, my God. I know.

You think as soon as he's done with one that there's no way he's going to top it. I know. And then he says the words all in. You're like, all right, I'm out. You're like, I'm going to go home. Yeah, I'm going to go to bed.

Yeah. So Mark Men, directed by Nick, follows these two characters, Raul and Shaw. They've kind of been family friends for a long time. And it starts three years after the tragic death of Raul's twin brother. And he's never really forgiven himself.

His family hasn't forgiven him. And he sort of has shelled himself off from the world. And Shaw seems to be somebody who sees a light in him that he doesn't see in himself. And in a set of circumstances, they start to fall for one another. And it's a very unconventional love story of two people who don't make a lot of sense.

But once you get to know them, they make all of the sense. Brother, nice to meet you in person and come back anytime. You got a lot going on in your career. And I appreciate you coming on and chopping it up about Valiant One, available in theaters on the final day of the month, Friday, January 31st. Mark Men is available in theaters today, available on VOD in February.

And Outer Banks, renewed for a fifth and final season, coming soon to Netflix. Good to see you. Good to see you, my friend.

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And the guy that was friends with Bradshaw worked with my dad. He goes, you want to go say hey to Lynn Swann? And I was like, I'm good.

I'm okay. I so badly wanted to do it, but I was so nervous that I just couldn't bring myself to doing it. And then most of my life, even as an adult, I was like, why didn't I say hi to Lynn Swann?

That would have been really, really cool. Before I moved to Kansas City when I was a kid, we had a football pencil machined at our school, and I used to give the Steeler pencils to this guy that worked with my dad that was from Pittsburgh. And so the Steelers were playing. I was living in California. They were playing the LA Rams, and he took me.

I was in first grade, and that changed my life. I was such a Steelers fanatic as a kid. To this day, if I need to remember a number, a phone number, an address or something, I'll associate it with a player from the late 70s Steelers. If you name a number, I don't even know. Go for it, Chris. We haven't planned this out.

This is all jogged. Go to the pro football reference, and we'll put together a phone number for Paul Rudd, area code first. We'll figure it out for his Steelers. What year in particular? I don't know. Maybe go like 1979. 1979 Steelers. Call them up. I don't know.

This is fantastic. I have no idea. 78, 79? I don't know. You got it over there, Chris? Yep. For Paul Rudd.

Let's do Rocky Blyer. He's 20. 20, correct. Lynn Swan. 88. Benny Cunningham. 89. Larry Brown. 79. Nailing it, actually.

Or do this. Theo Bell, T Bell, 83? 83, correct.

If you want, say a number, and I'll see if I can get that player. Nice. 63.

63. Was that Ernie Holmes? Tom Dornbrook. Oh, no. Oh, wait. Tom Dornbrook. Yeah.

Oh, right, right, right, right, right. Ernie Holmes, he was before 79. Okay.

Give another one. 47. 47 was Mel Blount.

Correct. 59. 59 was Jack Ham. 52. 52, Mike Webster.

They're all correct. Fantastic. Pretty impressive. Paul Rudd, everybody. 58 for the win.

58 for the win would be Jack Lambert from Kent State University. Guys. Paul Rudd. God, I love that, man.

I don't care who knows it. He's one of my favorites. Period. He is really great. He is.

And honestly, whenever you see Paul Rudd on TV and acting goofy and just being normal, that's him. That's who he is, yeah. Right?

Yeah. Who else would name his fantasy team Dench? Exclamation point. That was his fantasy team name.

Dench. A floral arrangement. A floral... Is it a floral... Was it a floral arrangement?

Oh, no. A floral moment? A floral moment. Yeah. A floral moment. Yeah.

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Call clickgrainger.com or just stop by. I have a power rankings list for difference makers on championship Sunday. I am normally, I do this on a Wednesday, I am placing it aside. Oh. Because Patrick Mahomes has just been asked the question about referees favoring him. I haven't heard the answer. I'm just wondering if the answer will engender conversation here on the Rich Eisen Show in our wonderful show studio. I've seen the quote. I'm interested to hear it. Ah, I have not seen it.

As you know, I've been chit-chatting with Chase Stokes. You do not know? Nothing. Ah. Nothing.

All right. I mean, not, not, I don't feel that way. I mean, I just try to play football at the end of the day. The referees are doing their best to, to, to call the game as fair and as proper as they possibly can. And all you can do is go out there and play the game that you love as hard as you can and live with the results. And so for me, it's to go out there, play hard, try to do whatever I can to, to win the football game and then live with the results based off my effort and, and the way that we play the game.

So that's, that's what we preach here in Kansas City. What's he supposed to say? Well, actually I, I, I would love, I would love for him to, to say, you know, if you got, you got, what were they really thinking, Mike?

I don't know if you could find that. I'm just like, literally, you know, you're like, what were they really thinking? Oh yeah. So the other day, Clay Martin comes over the house and I'm like, do you like Cabernet? You want something from, uh, from the white wine?

Is that what you want? Right. Could you imagine if he had said something like that? Oh yeah. It actually would have been hilarious.

He's got a sense of humor about it. So me and, me and Sean Hockley, we go way back, you know, like, I mean, my dad and his dad, like he, his dad represented my dad or my dad used to pitch, you know, whenever he went to the, whenever he went to Arizona, the Diamondbacks, remember we saw Ed Shingle hanging, was it in Phoenix? We did. We saw the Hockley Shingle hanging. Oh yeah. Yeah.

So we, I go way back with the Hockleys. It's Clete, it's Clete this week. Oh, is it Clete? Yeah. Oh, Clete, you know, here's the thing is I used to write the word Blakeman on my Cletes when I was in high school. Right.

And I know, I know the, I know the Blakemans, the Blakemans come over every now and then, my kids play with theirs. Here's the thing is I would be playing this up in the biggest way possible. If you're him? Oh yeah. Why not? What?

Just say yes? Yeah, I get it. Absolutely. At least acknowledge the online chatter. Why?

Why? He's not paying attention to online chatter. The chatter, yeah. They 100% pay attention to it.

They watch all the shows and they see their Instagram, like come on. I would play into it and go, absolutely what, you know, I'm, I'm sure, I'm sure I get preferential treatment. Let me tell you what I'm not doing if I'm patching my homes, listen to a bunch of mouth breathers on X. Like we don't, you don't even do that. We don't want to do that. That's correct.

So if you're already at that point, you're not sitting there reading this crap. We know, we know players are on Instagram at least responding to stuff. He needs to use it to his advantage. I would, I would 100% flop as much as I possibly could on Sunday just to enrage the other side. Whatever advantage I would, you know what I would go up to if the first call that goes my way, I go up to Clete Blakeman and I just pat him on the butt. The amount of people who pointed out to me that Josh Allen flops just as much.

Excuse me. Josh Allen had a referee come up to him in a playoff game to have a conversation with him on the sideline. And if that happened with Mahomes, the entire country would flip out. If that was Mahomes. They blew that call so bad.

Excuse me. Have we heard the audio? What was the audio from that? And Allen apparently said something so bad, apparently to the head ref, that. That was Vinovich, right? Vinovich, who is as great as they come, needed to go up to Allen and tell him to calm down. Like you went up to him on the sideline sitting there. And told him to knock it off though. Would you imagine if Clete, it doesn't matter if Clete Blakeman goes up to tell Mahomes to knock it off while he's sitting on the sideline, you'd be like, oh, he's just bringing him Gatorade.

They should do that though. He's just going to take a seat. Tell Mahomes to stop flopping. And catch up on the family. How's everything going? Are you sure you're okay?

Do you need a rub down? Say hi to your mother for me. Are you thirsty? Can I bring you something to drink?

Would you like ice in that water? Give me a break. There's such a, how about this? There's a double standard. Oh, come on.

There's a double standard going on right now. I would play it up. I would play it up. I'd play it up. Because guess what? If you think I'm getting calls, keep them coming.

Keep them coming. It would be cool if they embraced the villain that they've become. But they don't have to. They're themselves.

And they're as terrific as they come. They are potentially the greatest dynasty we've ever seen unfolding in front of our eyes. Can we at least let it finish first? I know.

I just said the word possibly. Greatest dynasty we've ever seen. The thing is, it's going to be another 10 years before it's finished. So there's just so much fatigue about the Chiefs.

You want to bundle Ruski, the Bills together with the commanders in the worst way right now. Are you doing arts and crafts right now? Is that what literally is happening while we're wrapping up this program? What is happening over there? You're getting ready for the podcast. I'm getting ready, you are. But we're not done with this show yet. Yeah, we're still doing our job.

Am I not interacting with you two as I'm cutting the patient? Imagine if Crete Blakeman goes up to Mahomes on the sideline. And gives him a hug and a kiss before... No, no, no, no, no. In the same way that Vinovich went up to Josh Allen. It would be off the charts. It would be done. Well, done what? Vinovich was telling him to knock it off. I know, but... Yeah, but we don't know that. Please, my poise is... My point is made.

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