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Deion Sanders: Don't Draft Travis Hunter If He Isn't Going To Play On Offense And Defense

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December 20, 2024 3:45 pm

Deion Sanders: Don't Draft Travis Hunter If He Isn't Going To Play On Offense And Defense

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December 20, 2024 3:45 pm

12/20/24 - Hour 3

Colorado head coach Deion Sanders tells Rich that’s NFL teams who don’t plan to play Travis Hunter on both offense AND defense shouldn’t draft the Heisman Trophy winner, how he responds to speculation that he and son Shedeur Sanders could be a package deal for some NFL team, his advice for Bill Belichick as he embarks on his college coaching career at North Carolina, and more.

Writer/comedian Spike Feresten joins Rich in-studio to discuss his ‘Spike’s Car Radio’ YouTube show, reveals what he said to Jerry Seinfeld the first time they met that he worried would end his career, tells the origin stories behind some of the classic ‘Seinfeld’ episodes he wrote including  ‘The Soup Nazi,’ Elaine’s dancing, muffin tops only, and the ‘Junk Mail’ episode featuring Wilford Brimley as the Postmaster General.

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No way! Earlier on the show, NFL Network insider Tom Pelissero. Coming up, Pro Football Hall of Famer and Colorado Head Coach Deion Sanders. Host of Spike's Car Radio, Spike Farriston. And now it's Rich Eisen. Our number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. Just had a very nice chat with Spike Farriston back in our green room.

He's going to come out. We'll talk some Seinfeld back in the day and all that good stuff. It's a Friday program, so we're having a lot of fun as usual. And I'm very excited to welcome in our next guest when he's situated in front of his camera.

We need it framed properly because there's just only one version of this man that I like to see and it's properly framed up. Getting ready to join us right here in the show. He's one of my favorite human beings I've ever met, I've ever worked with, I've ever known. He is none other than the head coach of the Colorado Buffaloes, Deion Sanders. Look at you, Pro. Humble miss. How are you, Deion? What's going on? Let me tell you something.

Marshall was just sitting there two days ago. He was just talking about you, you know, the impact you had on our lives. And we say, you know what, we used to joke and clown Rich about the podcast because he was one of the first that we ever heard that word. We used to be like, Rich, you got a podcast, Rich?

I mean, it was just hilarious. But you, I'm like, Rich was on to this before anybody ever thought about it, man. So you, you are the genesis of the podcast. Well, as you know, as you know, I talked about it nonstop because if it wasn't going to be me, then who else was going to do it? And then you started making fun of me. And now, you know, you've been the man forever. And I, some of my most favorite times of media has been when you and, uh, Susie, the beautiful, lovely, adorable wife, Susie would go out of, you guys would go on vacation that would come in and host. So I, I love those moments. Prime, you interviewed Morgan Freeman here. Yeah.

I mean, that, that actually happened. And I had no idea that you were potentially getting yourself ready for to be Tuesdays. We got time today.

Great job. We have a great time, but I love to be, and that's how that all started. God always blesses me with, with the things I love. Like I love to be and I view it like crazy. So, uh, having a relationship with them to do a talk show and it's another form of recruiting for me, rich.

Like if I'm not going to your living room physically, I'm going to get there, you know, well, another I'm going to get in your living room. Right. Exactly.

And, and, and, and again, some folks might be like, well, you know, why is Dion doing that? He's got a football team to run, but you know, but it is part and parcel, right? Like it is all, it's all part of the puzzle. Yeah. It's given you opportunity to know how I think and how move, you know, um, the way we do things live. I mean, I think every coach and almost every coach at college football, they have a radio show or television show that they're on as well.

Mine just happened to be larger. Part of a conglomerate is you could see Brockman's got the blenders on, right? So does TJ. They've got their blenders on right now. Oh, you're looking good too.

You guys look good. They got the blenders on. Oh, by the way, I don't, I've got my own coffee line, Dion. Um, here you go. Here. I'll show it to you. It's right there.

Show it to him. Hold on. That's my coffee line. Oh, white and bold. See right there. Yeah. It looks a lot like yours. Oh my God. That is also rich white and bold.

That now that right there, that's the viral moment. I guess who just walked in. Who's that? Is it someone who, let me see someone who steals someone who does not return to nothing.

Someone who's just, just ridiculous and whooping and fishing. Hey Travis, what's up Travis Hunter. How are you? Good. I just happened to be doing a podcast and he just happened to come here. Congratulations.

That is so cool. There you go. See, I've got, I've got a coffee line.

You've got a Heisman trophy winner. I mean, it's all good. Fantastic. I thought you'd get a kick out of that.

I thought you'd get a kick out. Hey man. And I texted you when, when that kid got the, got the trophy. Cause again, because I remember when you got started coaching, you know, I remember that we did the truth, your team, your youth team and all of that. And now you're coach is nothing else to get.

I can't tell you that. Well, he's got more, right? There's more to come on that front.

You know, I love it. Where's he going? What's he taking from your office?

But what was that moment like for you prime when this kid got it? First of all, it's not like he don't want much. He does not want much. He's not built like that, but he did want this. He wanted to win this Heisman and it was on his mind. It was in his heart.

It was every thought process. And you know, as a coach, you got to help because that's your kid. Like, okay, yeah, let's put this play in. Let's make sure we go at him. Let's make sure we, we get the ball. Let's make sure we, we had a pass when he scored.

And it was unbelievable, man. But he loves the game of football, but he wanted this. He wanted that high. So we had to embrace it and embody it.

Well, how do you, did you ever tell him that this is what you were going to help do for him? Like when you first came to Jackson state, there's this part of the goal at any way, shape or form? Part of the goal was just to make him the best that he could possibly be on and off the field and to just give him the, be the navigational system of his life to guide him in the right direction. That, that's, that's it. Travis is not a kid who had to have this type of NIL, this type of collective.

He's not built like that, man. He just loves the game. And we try to tell all the kids we got, we had the two highest earners in, in, in NIL and not collected, but NIL because they love the game and they, they, they focused on the game, not the bag. And now they're going to get the bag.

Well, let's talk about the bag here, uh, prime, because, um, you know, I want to ask you, I've been dying to ask you this question for a while. The kid who just came in your office and Travis Hunter, do you think he can play both sides of the football in the pros? Yeah, it's so funny because Chidor just left.

Like he literally just left before we turned on the camera. Travis could, uh, definitely do that. I mean, he's going to do that or they shouldn't draft him.

Don't, don't do that. And I'm going to make sure that don't draft him. If you're not going to give him an opportunity to play on both sides of the ball.

Now you could be creative. He don't have to do what we did with him here and play every snap, but he's going to just say, he's starting the corner. He's going to be, he's going to have to be on your, uh, uh, nickel packages or whatever, or spread packages on the offense, because he's going to be probably your best receiver. And you're going to look like an idiot with your best receiver sitting on the bench and you can't get over. You can't get the ball down the field or vice versa. So on the field and they're bombing you right now and he's on the sideline with you. So when you talk to coaches that are going to be coming for pro days or coaches that have already or GMs that have already come through, I saw the Giants brass with you recently. It's going to be abundantly clear that this is what he wants. This is who he is and it's not going to work unless you entertain this and give him an assurance of this is what's going to happen.

You got to understand Travis Hunter has another year eligibility. So if you start to foolishness, he can do that. Hmm.

Interesting prime. Cause I know that's, I know you've got plans. I know this stuff is stuff you've been talking about. I know you're the guy that once upon a time was famously brought into an interview room at the combine, asked where they were being, where they're in the draft order and they were too low for you.

And you pirouetted and walked out of the room saying, you can't draft me SIA. So I know you are thinking about this sort of thing. So I got to keep the young men best interests. I mean, when they choose us as a school, as a coach, as a mentor or whatever they choose you as you, you owe them that.

I mean, come on, man. This young man helped us become who we are. A single handler. Now he's one of the has been during every other award that he should have won a couple that he should have won. He didn't get, but don't, don't you, shouldn't you be there for him? He's been there for you. Shouldn't you be there for him in every facet of life, not just on the field, off the field and consistently giving them directions and protection as well as correction. So shouldn't you be there for him? It don't stop. You know, when he plays his last game, that love don't stop for me.

No, not whatsoever. What about the plan for Chidoor who could be first overall? What's your plan here?

Your draft plan? And I just want, he just left. We just talked a little business as well, as well as father son type stuff, but I just want these guys happy, man. I just want them happy with the right, in the right situation to soar.

Unfortunately, they're so good that they're going to go to a team that wasn't that good the prior year, but that could all change with an announcement of their names that can all change quickly. Do you have a spot that you want Chidoor to go to that you're not, you don't have one. You know what his goal is? I just saw it on his podcast because he has a podcast too. I just saw it.

Everybody has one, but Rich was first, so let's get this straight. I just saw the goal was to go before I did, and he's going to eclipse that because he's going to, I was fifth pick. He's certainly going to be one or two or whatever it's going to be. So that's what he wants.

He never told me that, but that's what he wants. Well, I'm sure that, but I mean, you know, that's why I'm at, I'm not saying that you would share it publicly, but deep down, you, you know, the teams that could potentially take your son here. Yeah, it's the Raiders and the Giants.

Raiders and the Giants is those two probably. And you know, it's going right now. That's what, that's where it's going to go. Okay. And, uh, there's no preference for one over the other. One, one is in the New York market.

One is in Las Vegas, you know, one, I mean, there's, there's a lot that can come with one of the other as well, depending on who's the coaches of there too. Huh? Yeah.

It's a good lead in Rich. Rich, you know, I know you, right? You know, I work with you. You do know, am I telegraphing a pass here? No, I know. Yeah, you do know. I know you.

I'm just letting you know. I know, I know your rhythm. I know your pace. I know your tempo. Oh, I know you, man. So where am I going? Where am I going with this? I know exactly where you're going, sir.

Well, I mean, you know, there, there, there's a lot of moving parts here, Deon, you know, uh, there's a lot of moving parts here. I'm the chairman of the office right now. I'm really comfortable. I got a lot of junk in here, a lot of beds, a lot of clothes there.

I'll be packed right now for the bowl game. Well, then what do you say to, listen, I see the kids you're bringing in. I saw the Liberty kid that you brought in.

I'm seeing the four and five star recruits that are coming there. I see the monster that you're building. I see that, you know, a couple of bounces, the ball here or there, you've got a bye week in these playoffs. You know, I see that there's a path to all this. There's a reason why Belichick is like, I'll join the ACC. I can, I can see a path to a college football playoff. I see all of that. I see how you love Colorado.

I see how that, you know, that it's not too cold for you, but it's cold enough that you can go fishing. Dion, I see all of this. I know you too. I've gone way back like a car seat with you too, Dion. But so how, how, how do you respond to people that think that you and your son are a package deal in the professional football ranks?

Dion Sanders. I've spoken to anyone about a package deal or anyone about a deal, period. We're trying to work something out here as you speak. I'm not going to lie about that as you speak. And I have one of the best, if not the best AD in the country, Rick George.

And I'm confident, you know, that we're going to get something done to keep here so that we could bring this wonderful city, a national championship. And then I could put, I'm looking at when I point that way, I'm looking at the mountains outside so that I can put my face on top of that. I want to see a black face on this white snow. My coffee. That's perfect. There you go.

You know, it's just like the coffee that I've got right here. You could find that funny. By the way, I'm sure it wasn't lost on you that your son's name got chanted in Madison Square Garden. I saw that. I asked him, do you have anything to do with that?

I said, now, you know, those same fans will turn on you like a pit bull. No, I know that. And then I did see him flinging a ball around with Malik neighbors in the street. I saw that. I asked him about that, too. I said, you got to stop.

You got to stop. That's something out of the playbook, man. That's a that's your son has got he's got it, man. He's got it. He got he's a handsome young man.

He's confident in what he does. And they can't wait. He and Travis, they can't wait to play in this bowl game. You know, we flipped that whole thing, Richard.

A lot of the guys of that caliber, they don't play in bowl games. No, we're going to finish this. We're going to finish this.

Our goal was to go to a bowl and get Miss Peggy to a bowl game. And we're doing it, but we're going to finish it. We're not opting out. We're not tapping out. We're going to finish it. All our seniors, the whole team, we're going to finish it. And that's what we're doing, led by these two young men that are highly talented from the NFL, which is unbelievable.

If they could do it, the rest of the country should be able to do it. I love it. OK, what else?

What else do I want to talk with you about? There's so much going on. Belichick, man, can you believe this?

What if I told you, what if I told you years ago, when we're covering all those gajillion Patriots Super Bowls for NFL Network together, that the two of you would be college football head coaches of big time programs at the same time? Unbelievable. Right?

Unbelievable. I love it. I love what college football is. I love where it's going. I love the Big 12 and our commissioner, you know, shoot, you know that.

I love everything about college football. It should be a couple of things, Rich, that should be changed. Let me let me put this out.

I haven't said this. I was trying to save this for a press conference, but I can give it to you. Thank you, sir. Like this portal thing is going crazy and everybody's catching up right now. Something that we did a couple of years ago. Now everybody want to get in, you know? Yeah.

Now it's cool. But if you to me, if you take a kid from FCS school, HBCU school or that level, you should compensate the school as well. Not just the kid. You should compensate the school because it's almost like now they're like a farm system for you. And it ain't right because if the kid is halfway decent, everybody's going to assume they're going to take it. So something somebody should be compensated. Well, see what you where you're going here. It sounds like, you know, when you take a free agent from another team in the NFL, the team that loses the free agent gets a compensatory draft choice and, you know, you're coming up with some sort of a system.

And I think what you're doing is cutting around the edges of the larger issue, which is who the hell is in charge? Prime, you know, like who is the government body to come up with rules that where everybody now you're saying that the kids that came from junior college, you know, they could get their time rededicated to them. Like if they play one year junior college, they get the one year back. So now the kid is going to be during their 30 years old, you know, playing against an 18 year old kid. You got to think about these things. I don't mind because we got a couple of kids that play junior college.

I can't wait. I pray to God this rule passes so they can get another year. And I got kids playing for me at Jackson calling me right now that won't be a year back.

They came from junior college. But it has to be some kind of guidance and parameters and thought process that goes into this. But I just want for the lower level.

I keep saying lower levels and that's not fair. FCS schools and other schools. If we take the kids, man, they should be compensated by who? You had any idea by who? Like it should be compensated from from the school that takes the kid. Got it. Yeah. Right.

You should give something to it. It was like the Negro Leagues back in the day. Right. That's why that kind of fell apart. At first, they start really compensate the Negro Leagues for taking the guys. Then they just say, forget it. We pay you on that.

And then that's how it fell apart. Prime time. Deion Sanders, your head coach of Colorado football.

All right. So what about while you're still in charge, your own scheduling before that can get it somewhat down the road, you know, more uniform. You want to call Bill? You and you and Belichick get get UNC on the Colorado schedule like that would be. I don't I don't make those calls.

I think these schedules are done years in advance. That'll be great, though. You call Bill again. I love I just love I love that he's he's doing his thing. I love it. You got advice for him?

Yeah. OK. Don't do home. Don't do what? Don't do home visit. Why is that your advice for him?

It is not going to work for a guy like that guy like me. It's not going to work because you go to this school and the school around the corner goes away. He didn't come here.

He was right around the corner. He didn't come here. I'm not letting my kid go there. He's too good to come to your school.

No, you can't. We get judged differently. I can't see Bill going to 100 different high schools. I just can't see that. I don't call Bill. I apologize. Coach Belichick. Yeah, right.

No, no, no, no. Hey, Bill, he's a peer, Dion. You've been in this college game more than he has. Oh, man. You know that coaches.

I'm from old school, man. Coach Andrews. I never called him Mickey Andrews in my life. That's Coach Andrews.

Right. From FSU back in the day. Coach Bowden. You know, these are all my coaches.

You know, I'm from the old school. We don't do the first name thing. My kids here, they know I don't play the first name.

I don't do that. Prime, I miss you. I love you. Before I let you go. Last one. Last one.

Hit you with this one on the way out the door. You've got draft plans. Am I going to see in Green Bay?

What do you think? No. You will not be in Green Bay. Why? Why would I? I don't know. Your son could go first overall.

Travis Hunter. I got two dogs. You don't think I have plans for that? I got a kennel. I got two dogs and a kennel right here. OK, so I think I'm going to dress up my kennel. Let my dogs play. Let me just explain to everybody what I'm talking about.

What did I tell you guys a few weeks ago on this show that Dion would have plans for the draft of his own? For sure. Right. So we do it for sure. We're not seeing you in Green Bay, Wisconsin, is what you're saying. No, you won't see you won't see us.

No. OK. You don't have to even if he's even if they're assured of hearing his name first. That moment holding the jersey up. There is this. Yeah, we we we we're good, man.

Like we want to celebrate with our people, with our folks, with our wonderful student body. OK. See, I'm just saying I see what you're saying. All right. Hey, listen, congrats on the to be gig. I love seeing you talk. I love seeing you do your thing. I really do. It's really cool.

I saw you had Irvin. Oh, my God. That was awesome. That was awesome.

But Rich, I miss looking to my right, looking to my left to see the humble host and just to see that little smirk that only I knew. And he knew what it was about that, that that little remark. Don't touch it. Don't touch it. Don't touch it. That is historical.

I thought about that, too. Don't touch it. My God. Oh, rich, rich. We had so much.

We had so many good people at home. You know what? You know what?

I know I'm running over. But that's what makes coaching college football so great, because most people do it the other way. God took me around the corner like most people coach, coach, coach. Then they run to television, which is wonderful. God took me the other way.

I had television. So I get it. I understand it.

And I love it. And I miss the humble host man, Mooch. Mooch is going to help the combat process with with a Chidori camp.

Cam Ward. He's going to help. Well, it's great. You know, Mooch loves you, too. Everybody at NFL Network, we miss you every single day, man. And I miss you, too. But I'm always here. I'm always here. I'm always here. It's Dionne.

Great to see you, bud. Take care of it. Is the dog still kicking or he going to the holy dog? Hudson's Hudson left us a couple of years ago. And you know what? It had a good run. He can't be. Fifteen years.

Fifteen years. And he was treated with the most respect and love and compassion and kisses and kisses. No, go ahead and tell the story about us going through security together in airports. Go ahead, Dionne. I know you want to tell that story.

I would never do that. But Hudson had a good run, man. I'm proud.

Did you replace him? Huh? Oh, yes. We've got two beautiful dogs now.

Beautiful. Halo and Dylan. Yeah, they're both rescues. They're Goldens. They're wonderful. They send their best to you.

So does Suze. Amen. Love you, Prom. Take care.

Be well. White and bold, baby. I like that. White and bold. Only Richard. I got my own coffee line right there. Dionne Sanders, everybody. Let's take a break.

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Game time. Spike Farriston here. Our radio audience just rejoined us right here on The Rich Eisend Show. Spike's Car Radio YouTube channel launched just this month.

The show's available, Spike's Car Radio, wherever you get your podcasts. Jerry did the first episode with you as well. Jerry is always our, he's our Bill Murray.

He really was part of the inspiration for the show. We would go driving in Malibu and after cruising canyons, we'd stop at the Malibu kitchen on the porch and kind of decompress, have a conversation. And we noticed like people were always leaning in like, what are these guys talking about?

Right. And it'd be about comedy or the car we just drove. And then somebody actually sat next to us and typed in our conversation and published it in the Malibu paper.

What? Like they over, they eavesdropped? They were eavesdropping. And I said to Jerry, I go, why don't we just record this and make it a show?

Because I think people are interested for some reason in what we have to say. And that was really the beginning of the show. So you started Spike's Car Radio and did he then go do Comedians in Cars getting coffee off of that as well? I think he was already doing it. I was already doing Car Matchmaker. I think that's what you came on to promote the last time.

So it's been more than seven years since you've been here. Yeah. Okay. And, you know, it just became a fun one hour of a week where I'd get together with my friends, whoever's around, and smoke cigars and talk about the cars we have.

And suddenly it got traction and manufacturers were dropping off cars for us to drive and review. And, you know, I'm not an automotive journalist. I'm an enthusiast.

But I could talk about what it's like in my life. Does my wife like it? Usually not. Yeah. Do my kids love it? Yeah, kind of.

We dropped me off in school. And that, you know, apparently is valuable and people want to listen to it. So, you know, here we are now seven years later and they said, let's go on to YouTube and do a show. There you are. And now here you are. Yeah, for sure.

And obviously using your Rolodex with Jerry Seinfeld's episode one, Jay Leno's episode two. Not too shabby, Spike. It's not bad.

It's not bad. Yeah. How did you first come across Jerry? Just in the writer's room with Seinfeld or what? You mean as a medium?

In life, yeah. They asked me to do a submission for the show that first year, I think. First year of Seinfeld?

Well, my first year where I knew him, I guess. So I had been writing for Letterman for five years and I heard they were looking for writers here. Someone called me up and said, would you do a submission? I said, sure. And a minute later I'm flying out to L.A. and I met with Larry, not Jerry, at his house.

Yeah. You know, knocked on the gate, the maid walked me in, I was left in the kitchen and this little dog walked up and I went to pet it and then it urinated all over the place. No, it did not. And then Larry walked in right at that moment. What did you pet the dog for? And, hi, nice to meet you, I'm Spike. I was already in a bad place. And I pitched him these ideas and he said, yeah, okay, good.

All right, well, we'll let you know. And flew back to New York and didn't get the job. They only had one spot that year. And they had, your friend Jeff Schaefer.

Got it. Jeff Schaefer and Alec Berg got that gig. And I thought the whole thing was over. And maybe about six months later, I was, Jerry was on the show, on Letterman, and Dave's office is on the 14th floor.

And we were on the 12th and it was a bad week, it was a Friday, and it was just in a bad mood. And I get in the elevator and who's there but Jerry and Mary Connolly, the segment producer. And I turn around and face away from them and I know in my mind, like, these guys have been talking for two weeks. They've run out of things to say and Mary's going to introduce me.

And I don't want to talk to Jerry Seinfeld. That's the guy who didn't give me that job. And sure enough, sixth floor, hey, by the way, this is one of our writers, Spike Farriston.

Ah, Spike, didn't you do a submission for us? And I go, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did a few months back. He goes, how did that go? And I go, shouldn't you know that? And I couldn't stop it from coming out of my mouth because I was so tired and he just went like that. And then the door opened and I just ran, I just ran out of there.

And you thought there's no... I'm dead. You're dead. I'm done in show business. You're finished. I'm finished.

Jerry's going to stomp you out, man. Bad Friday. I'm surprised I made it to Monday.

I'm surprised I actually came to work. Shouldn't you know that? By the way, he should. He should have known that.

He should have known that. The truth is your defense, Spike Farriston. Ah, I don't remember.

A lot of stuff going on, Spike. But six months later, I had moved out to L.A. I had left Letterman and didn't have a job and I got the same call. And I said, do you want to come by? And I went over to Larry's house again with a new page of ideas.

I didn't pet the dog. And Larry said, we're going to hire you. I like your stuff.

We're going to bring you on. And there it is. Wow. And years later, like I mean like a year ago, years later, I asked Jerry, do you remember that elevator thing?

He goes, no, I don't remember it. Which is great. You said that?

I go, yeah, I said that. And you've been living rent free in my head ever since that moment. But I'm glad we're cool. That is amazing, Spike.

What a story. I love that. I've got a few Seinfeld episodes that you were an integral part of. And I would like to ask you.

Sure. Spike Farriston here on The Rich Eyes Show. Everybody, again, check out Spike's car radio on the new YouTube channel as well.

Wherever you get your podcasts, starting with the Soup Nazi episode. Yes. There's a lot that's been covered about this episode, Rich.

I understand it was. I hope you've got something new here. No, I just want to know.

What would you like to know? Well, there was a Soup Nazi that actually existed, correct? Yes.

In New York City. But you were not familiar with this. Did you have to be brought up to speed to who this person was? Or you were familiar with the Soup Nazi? No, I was very familiar with him. It was when I was writing on Letterman.

That's where I got lunch in the winter. So you were the genesis of the Soup Nazi character? I am. Yeah. Of the story. I had in the very first pitch session with Jerry and Larry. Yes. The writers who were helping me, Tom Gamble and Max Pross said, if you make them laugh in this meeting, you're going to know you sold a story. Even though I was on staff. That's what they called it.

Right. And I pitched 10 ideas, no laughs. And I started getting a little flop sweaty. And Larry said, well, you know, what else is going on in New York? And I said, there's this weird guy who sells soup, they call it the Soup Nazi. And they start laughing really hard. They go, what do you mean? They go, well, if you don't order the soup right, he takes the soup away and he gives your money back and he takes the soup away. They go, what?

And they go, yeah, and everybody in line kind of turns away from you. And they were like, there's your episode. That's your first episode. And most of that episode are little vignettes of what really happened to me in real life. You know, when Elaine says you kind of look like Al Pacino, there was a woman behind me who in front of me, actually, who said that to him and didn't get her soup.

So, you know, you kind of look like Al Pacino. And he went, not like the TV character. He went, F you.

Screamed at her. So the real Soup Nazi would curse you out and get interject you? Al Jegena. I think is his name. Right. The real Soup Nazi. So this guy only opened up in the winter months, in the fall months. He would, in the summer, tour the world looking for new soups to bring to the corner of 55th and 8th.

Hey, he's a professional. And all he asks is that you order soup the way he wants you to do it. And the writer who brought me in, this guy Dave, he said, look, if you don't do this right, you're going to get yelled at. And I said, look, I know how to order soup, all right? You give the guy money and you get sued because not like this. And I'm George in that very first scene with George and Jerry. I got yelled at and they took, they didn't give me the soup and they took my money away.

They gave me my money back. So that, you know, all of that is kind of real. I always say it's more of a documentary than it is a piece of kind of, you know, written comedy. That's amazing. Yeah. Oh, my God. Let's move on now to The Little Kicks, season eight, episode four. This is the famous Elaine Dancing episode.

What's the genesis of that? That was a boss I had in New York who I found very intimidating because I was on a production staff, you know, a legendary guy. And until one night I saw him dance and I thought, oh, he's human, just like the rest of us. And I was no longer intimidated.

And it was, you know, I pitched that right after I pitched The Soup Nazi that first season. And we just couldn't figure out the story. But when Elaine became a boss, we knew we had it. Like if we could just get a lane onto a dance floor and screw it up.

There it is. Yeah, the Elaine Dance. And was this her interpretation of the dance that you were explaining that you've seen or this was just her own idea? I described to Julia this Little Kicks dance that I had witnessed. And then she said, I got it. I'm going to take it from there. And she went home and she worked on it. She came in and added the fingers and the thumbs. And, you know, that's what was great about this cast is you could you could put a little bit of kindling into their heads and it would suddenly become a bonfire.

These actors that we had on that show, they were tremendous. Who came up with the choice of song for it? I did. I picked it. A song I don't think I could pick now because I don't think I could get the rights to it. But that was a time where you could just pick any song and just put it in the show and we'd get a license for it and it would be fine. But what, you're just a fan of the song?

No, you're in an edit room and you're playing songs. You know, it's the same thing we do right now. It just sounds right and makes you laugh. And you go, there it is. Have you been at a party where that song is played and somebody does the Elaine dance? No, no.

I have, by the way. The Brooklyn Cyclones have an Elaine dance every summer. I was supposed to be there and judge it this year.

And then I screwed up my schedule and couldn't get there. And then Jerry called and said, I think I'm going to do it. I think Larry's coming too. No, I think this is all next year.

In fact, I probably shouldn't even be talking about it. But we love the Brooklyn, is it the Brooklyn Cyclones? Is that who it is?

The New York Mets, Meyer League team. They've been having this Seinfeld night. It's grown into something huge. And it's, you know, for me, it was just like, this will be great to interact with fans. But if Jerry and Larry are going to go, it's their show. You know, I'll just tag along and watch.

That'd be fantastic. And by the way, I'm sure it's called that not because, you know, there are cyclones in Brooklyn. It's the roller coaster name in Coney Island, so that makes sense. I hope I have the name right.

I hope I have the name right. A couple more of the muffin tops. Top of the muffin to you.

Yes. Is that based on a muffin story you went to? That is based, that's a last minute story that jumped in because I had written a story that Frazier did the same night where Frazier or somebody in the cast was listening on a police scanner to their neighbor's wireless phone calls. And I had written the same story for Kramer.

You know, you can see him doing that with his little police scanner, listening to everybody in the building's phone calls. So we pulled that story out, and we were sitting there going, well, what are we going to put in? We've got to read something tomorrow.

We've literally got to read a story, so we've got to pull that thread right out of the whole script. And, you know, after meeting with, for maybe an hour or so, we had nothing. And then I went, you know, I had this girlfriend who only ate the top of muffins. And Jerry starts, and he goes, what? And we're laughing, and we have something. And he goes, what do you mean? And he goes, oh, she would pop the top, get rid of the stump. She always thought she could have a business.

She was a very successful clothing designer, but she was going to get out of designing for, I think it was Liz Claiborne, some designer, and open up a muffin top shop. And that really entertained everybody. And the story, you know, started. And then we were like, oh, huh. And there was also this, like, undercurrent of, you know, with the Harvard guys in particular on the staff, that sometimes you would pitch a story, and three months later they would pitch a story that's similar, and they would get approved, and you'd go, huh. I'm not sure if it had anything to do with Harvard, but there was like, you know, these ideas are in the air.

They're always around. So we kind of put those things together. We had Elaine's boss take her idea and then do the idea. You know, the muffin top was one piece of it, but really beneath it, it was really about that creative process when you have an idea, you voiced it to the room, and suddenly there it is again.

Somebody else is getting credit for it, right? And I just love the process of it, right? How you just, you're in a room, you got nothing, you keep on throwing stuff out there.

That's the story idea. And then what was it, how long did it take for you to come up with top of the muffin to you? Oh, that night, we had to get the whole thing done that quickly. That's what's fantastic about Jerry. It's like he's so confident when he finds comedy things, like he's a prospector and he unearths that piece of gold.

The science of it, yes, he was talking about that. Yeah, I get really lost. His confidence just carries you through it. He's like, no, no, that's it. It's going to work.

You know, it's great when you work with him because he's just, Larry's the same way. They're like, no, no, we got it. That's it.

Let's just ride this train home. Yeah, he told the story of the famous soliloquy of the sea was angry, my friend, that they came up with that, had to come up with it overnight because they connected the marine biologist storyline with the titleist and Kramer hitting golf balls at the beach. They didn't know how to connect it. They connect it. They write this soliloquy. It's true. Jason Alexander learns it overnight and it's the stuff of television legend. Whenever I was kind of a doubting Thomas on the staff when things got too broad, I'd go, that's too broad. Jerry would always say we hit a golf ball into the blowhole of a whale spike and nobody shut down the show. We're doing it.

We're doing it. Oh, my God. He always holds that up. Another one, last one for you, the junk mail episode. Yes, I love that episode. What do you love about that one?

Well, because it really happened to me. I put a waste paper basket by my front door in Hollywood and if I was home and the mailman came, I would take it and look him in the eyes and put it in the trash and go, this has to stop. The number of magazines that you did not get. All of it. I go all of it.

I can auto pay everything, my bills. I can just stop bringing me paper that I'm putting in. Look at this full waste paper basket. And the mailman said, he goes, you can't stop this. I go, I'm sure I can. He goes, you won't be able to stop it.

There's nothing we can do. And I think it was Pottery Barn. Three times a week, I was getting just waste of paper.

And I'm not even the biggest environmentalist at all. But even I was just like, oh. And they go, good luck. And the mailman was very confrontational. He's like, you can't stop it. I'm just going to keep putting it here. So that, like many of the episodes I wrote, they were little small acts of revenge. Small acts of revenge against the post office. And the fact that Kramer was the avatar for your crusade here.

And that the postmaster general comes to sit him down. And it's Wilford Brimley. How did that come about with Wilford Brimley? Did you write it thinking it's Wilford Brimley? No, no, not at all.

No, not at all. But we knew we wanted someone that would scare him. And we knew Wilford Brimley kind of scared us a little bit. So we knew he would be good. And one of the first days we walked on set. And he had to, we imagined this line like, I'm not only the vice president of the post, I'm also a general. And a general's job to get things done. And I think that might have had a double exclamation point in it.

Probably a single knowing Jerry. And we said to Mr. Brimley, you know, everything's great. You're amazing. This is going really well. But that line, it's got, you know, we'd love for you to just yell it at him. And he goes, let me tell you a story. Whenever I see exclamation points, I get quiet like this. And the more quiet I get, the more threatening it is. And we went, okay.

No problem. Mr. Brimley, he was good. He was good. He scared us in that moment. Like that was the first like real actor that had hit our stage.

And we were like, we are out of our league here. Oh my God. When you control the mail, you control the information. Right. Brimley, fantastic. Oh my God. Spike, this is just a total blast, man. I appreciate you coming on.

I could go, I truly go on and on and on. Next time you're around and you want to hang out. Anytime, I love it. I love to do this.

This is so much fun. Spike's Car Radio, again, now available on Spike's Car Radio YouTube channel launched just last month. First two episodes with Jerry Seinfeld and Jay Leno. Special Festivus episode coming up next Monday. And a Christmas episode with Max Greenfield. Why not?

Of The Neighborhood. We've got Max coming on next month. Oh, fantastic. So we'll talk with him about that as well. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me.

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That might actually happen. And then what do you have? A robot, I guess. There's a value to charm, my friend. There's a value to it that we sometimes ignore. So replay's gone. Replay's gone. I do kind of like replay, but it bothers me. The designated hitter is gone.

So why? Because that's not baseball. One of the great principles of baseball is democracy of talent and physique. This is what makes baseball very special.

Democracy of talent and physique. Everybody plays it. Everybody.

The little shortstop, the slugging left fielder. Everyone's welcome. It's democracy. What do you think of just the intention to walk like just you go to first now? No, don't like that either. Why?

It's fine. How much time are you saving? About ten seconds. I mean, it's ten seconds we can all save. It's like when someone texts you the letter K instead of OK. What are you doing with that time? Or thanks. Are you going to add that up so you can watch an 11-minute YouTube video of a skateboarder bouncing his nuts off a railing?

Is that what we're doing? Someone's texting me T-Y instead of thank you. T-Y.

I'd like to bounce your nuts off a railing. The Rich Eisen Show radio network back on the air. I'm at the Rich Eisen Show desk furnished by Grainger with supplies and solutions for every industry.

Grainger has the right product for you. Call clickgrainger.com or just stop by. Let's get to my top five list, my top five rest of the intriguing matchups of the week. Hit it. Hit it. Hit it, please. Got my top five. Give me some give me some music there. Jay, give me some music. Here we go. Ready to roll.

Here we go. In three, two and one. Number five on the list. Yeah, there are two in team, but they're taking on the most intriguing rookie star.

I can remember in maybe my 20 some odd years of. Oh, you're doing it. How is Michael Penix's first start for the Falcons? Not one of the most intriguing games for the rest of the weekend. Honestly, you're right. I can't wait to see it.

I will be I will be planted to see what this kid looks like. So there's that number four on the list. The Minnesota Vikings go to Seattle. The Seattle Seahawks coming off of that loss coughed up their destiny control of the division. The Rams are in New York. The Seahawks will know if the if the if the Rams lost the trap game or not. And then the Vikings coming in into Seattle.

This is as tough a place as you can to go. As we all know, they're still trying to track down the Lions. I can't wait to see this one.

Number three on the list Saturday. Texans chiefs coming into the season. Everyone identified the Texans is the chief.

The team in the AFC that can knock off the Chiefs more than anyone else. We'll see. We'll see.

Can't wait to see that one. Number two, the Eagles and commanders. If the commanders win this game, they will essentially essentially wrap up a playoff spot.

There's still miles to go. They would also put a card on the table as significant as any card they put on the table by beating the Eagles. They would do the Lions and maybe the Vikings in massive favor as well. If the Eagles and if the and if the commanders if the Eagles win this game, then the Eagles would wrap up the East and open up. If Pennix wins, the Sunday nighter between the Falcons and the commanders in week 17 is a playoff possible game. Number one is Steelers Ravens. Ravens and Steelers. Ravens need to win this game in order to stay alive in the division.

If the Steelers win it, they would win the division. Period. End of story. I can't wait to see it. It is such a great rivalry game.

It is all kinds of awesome. You think we need one more? I'll give you one more. All right. We'll get one more. Let me just say if I can do this.

Patriot spells. Hold on a minute. Rocky Top. You'll always be sweet. Home sweet home to me. Good old Rocky Top. Rocky Top, Tennessee. You know, I've I've had years of cramped up city life trapped like a duck in a pen.

All I know is it's a pity life. Can't be simple again. Rocky Top. Plant the flag. Plant it. Plant it. Build your value and then understand your value and then you create your own leverage. There's no substitute for hard work and getting over. My World with Jeff Jarrett. For You Listen.
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