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NFL Network Insider Tom Pellicero. ESPN College Football Analyst Josh Pate. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Hour two of the Rich Eisen Show here on this June Tuesday. We're in the back half of June already.
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What do you got, brother? I'll take it. I'm here. But he's got his. I mean I guess this is a perfect time to say that Henry Winkler's on tomorrow's show since he's dressed like he is the Fons right here.
Well, I thought Tom might have seen Jeff's hit earlier and wanted to one up him and Jeff had the The, the, I guess, the, the peacoat and uh, the camel hair. He was looking sharp, yeah.
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So listen. That's a members-only code. Stop it. What happened with Brendan Saresby in Texas Tech? Tom.
What happened? I want to qualify everything I say about Brendan Soursby by first adding: Brendan Soursby is not a victim in all of this. We all know why it got to this place. Whether you want to call it an addiction, a compulsion. He was making bets, some of them against the rules.
He got himself into trouble. He went away to rehab to address that issue. Came back. Texas Tech was willing to embrace him and bring him back. What we saw take place over the last couple of weeks.
Has very little to do with Brendan Saresby. It is something much bigger than Brendan Saresby. I'm sure, Rich, you've felt in your couple of decades in California and earthquake before. Right now, the ground is shaking underneath college football. And your first instinct when you feel the crown shaking is to grab onto something for support.
That is what everybody is doing, whether it is teams. Conferences, the NCAA for five, six, seven years now. Everything has been floating into the air, and the room is shaking. There appear to be no rules, things are being decided in the courts. What took place was Brendan Soursby used the court system to his advantage.
He paid a lot of money to do that and to hire Jeffrey Kessler and hire top representation and get an injunction from a judge in Texas that would overrule the NCAA, which had rejected his appeal of taking away his eligibility. We have seen this with other players. You've seen it with other quarterbacks. Trinidad Jambliss went through this. You had last year Diego Pavia, Joey Aguilar.
They had to, you know, get the so-called Pavia rule of if you played in Juko, you've got additional eligibility here. What happened after that? The Big 12. You had schools, you had state attorney generals making threats. You had the NCAA appealing and trying to get an injunction to invalidate the injunction Brendan Sourceby had gotten.
As much as Brendan Sourceby and Texas Tech wanted to see this through, they believed that they could survive the earthquake. What became abundantly clear, Rich, Was the ground never going to stop shaking. Once things go into the court system, everybody loses control not just over the outcome but over the timeline. This could have gone into the season, this could have been the Big 12 threatening and suing to potentially keep Brendan Sourceby and Texas Tech out of the conference championship game to keep him off the field. There were so many moving parts.
And by the way, the deadline for applying to the NFL supplemental draft is next Monday. There was a real possibility here that something on one of these many fronts could have kept Brendan Swissby from playing football anywhere. He was left with really not a lot of great options. And so the plan, it has not happened as of an hour ago, but the plan is they are going to withdraw the lawsuit that they had filed against the NCAA in Texas, which then will overturn the injunction that made him eligible. It will allow the NCAA's ruling on his eligibility to ineligibility to stand.
And then at that point, Swordsby intends to apply to the NFL supplemental draft. And if it Indeed, he is ineligible, then the expectation is that he will be accepted into that supplemental draft, and we'll see where things go in the weeks to come. All right.
Now, let's turn to the National Football League, Tom. 'Cause uh Brendan Sourceby um Despite what he has um done to help himself. and what he's been able to do uh addiction he had and address it. There's no changing The four words that will hang over him heading to the National Football League, asking, petitioning for a a supplemental draft spot. Those four words are gambling addiction, And Jeffrey Kessler.
Period. Those are two four words that are associated with him. when this gets placed before Roger Goodell. Uh and and and And it's his decision to have a supplemental draft. What are you hearing?
on that front. Tom. At this point, Brendan Sorzby has not officially applied to the supplemental draft that's related to the lawsuit, but he intends to. At that point, the league is going to make a judgment. And of course, the teams are going to be seeking any information they can to try to figure out exactly what, if any, Discipline could be coming at the NFL level.
I think that we have to look at this through a historical lens, Rich, but also a modern lens. There hasn't been a supplemental draft since 2019. Why is that? Because nobody loses eligibility anymore. You had COVID, where guys were just getting fifth, sixth, seventh years.
You have NIL, which has essentially all the guys who became ineligible because they accepted money or in the case of Terrell prior, in a famous case, free tattoos. You don't have those same issues because now it's essentially the Wild West for paying players. Even the drug policy that guys failed in the past. There's not the same emphasis on that. And the NFL doesn't even test and suspend guys at this point for marijuana.
So, a lot of the circumstances that have applied to past cases don't exist.
Now. Terrell Pryor, as a test case, was suspended at Ohio State. His eligibility taken away, went into the supplemental draft. The NFL, and this is 15 years ago, decided to enforce what had been the suspension that Terrell Pryor was facing at the NCAA because they did not want players running to the NFL as a safe haven to protect themselves and play when the NCAA said you cannot. That same offseason, as you remember, Jim Tressel, who also was fired as part of that, which, in hindsight, the idea of a coach being fired because his players got free tattoos would be so antithetical to where we are in 2026.
But this is 2011. It was a different deal. Tressel goes, takes a job, but the Colts. And because prior suspension was enforced by the NFL, the NFL basically said, okay, we're also going to keep Jim Tressel away from the Colts for the same time period in order to try to make things fair. That's where, then, if you fast forward to 2024, I think that Jeff Kessler would make this argument if it comes to that at the NFL level, that Jim Harbaugh facing a four-year show cause in addition to a 10-year show cause, not just for recruiting violations, but for his.
Knowledge or what the NCAA felt he should have known about an illicit advanced scouting scheme. He's essentially banned from college football through 2038. He has coached every game for the Chargers over the last two years.
So if the NFL is not enforcing things, they're apply to integrity of the game in the case of Jim Harbaugh. It's tough, just if you're looking at this logically, to say we're now going to enforce something on Brendan Sourceby. In addition to that, you have the collective bargaining agreement, which dictates the players cannot be suspended. Under the personal conduct policy for any actions that occurred prior to them becoming NFL players. In other words, if Brendan Soursby does not have future issues involving illegal gambling or things that violate the NFL's gambling policy, which, by the way, other than those bets that he made on his own team when he wasn't part of the travel roster in 2022 in Indiana, most of these things would not have fallen under what is barred in terms of gambling by the NFL.
That even under that, suspending Brendan Sourceby would not be an option that wouldn't come with potential complications from the NFL Players Association and in the courts. Having said all that, Rich, and I know this is a very long answer because there's a lot of grounded history to cover. Gambling is a hot-button issue, not just in the NCAA, not just in the NFL, in society. I know plenty of people. I've got friends.
I've got nephews. I've got everyone has a gambling app on their phone. There's, of course, a line between legal and Illegal. There's a line between betting on things that you are allowed to and betting on your own team. And absolutely, there's a bright line crossed, even though he wasn't on the travel roster at that point.
That's what you're reaching back to. Is something from four years ago, but how does the NFL now approach this moving forward? Of course, they have taken a hard line in the past on the likes of Calvin Ridley, among others. But even after the Calvin Ridley suspension of a year, they then began to alter the rules and soften things. That if it didn't involve betting on football, which Ridley did in some capacities, betting parlays that involved the Falcons at a time that he was on injured reserve, they then began to ease back on some of the rules related to gambling on other sports.
Brendan Sourceby lost, by all the accounts that I have seen, something like or bet something like $90,000. I know people, Rich, that that's like a bad weekend in Vegas. Over four years, we're not talking about a ton of money, but Brendan Sourceby has paid a price. He has paid millions of dollars in legal fees, he's lost millions of dollars in endorsements. He is now ineligible for college football and saw his college football career end in a way that nobody would have expected even a week or so ago.
And now he comes into the NFL with a scarlet letter on his chest. Is there a possibility here of a settlement of some kind, such as the one that Brendan Sorsby and his lawyers, by the way, proposed to the NCAA that could have resolved all this and had him missing a chunk of the season? Could there be, for instance, even, hey, you can be around the team in practice, but you can't play as a rookie? I could see everyone involved coming together and saying, we don't want this to be a clown show. We don't want this to go into the courts.
Let's figure this out. But that is one of the unknowns that people are evaluating as NFL teams in less than the past 24 hours here are wrapping their minds around. This is a guy with franchise quarterback traits who we also have to answer some of these questions before deciding at the end of July if we're going to use a future draft pick to get him. All right, so let's put a pin in that portion of your answer. Um the Ohio State stuff is so Far afield of what the realities are now, it's insane, right?
When you look back as to. What blew up the Ohio State program then, and what led the NFL to basically say: listen, you can't use our supplemental draft as a way to escape. Um consequences. That I understand. Using the Jim Harbaugh, um uh Situation, for the lack of a better phrase, as is apples to oranges because Jim was already had an entire year as Chargers head coach.
under his belt by the time he got the show cause.
So it's not like the show cause was there and he ran off to the Chargers to avoid the showcause. He was going to be the head coach of the Chargers, and that was pretty much the end of it. Was the fact that stuff was coming down part of his rubric of deciding to leave? We'll never know, you could assume. Bottom line is That's different than what happened with prior.
And what may be the case with Sawsby, but I find it interesting that there could be a conversation of. Of Hey, you go to the NFL, but your penalty, if you will, is you can't play the first year. You can do everything you want to get ready for your professional career. Including being drafted and what have you. That's interesting how that would work.
And I'm saying that, listen, and to be clear, I'm saying that hypothetically.
So remember, Brennan Soursby, when this first came down back in May and was revealed publicly, he checked into an inpatient clinic in Arizona for something like six weeks. The initial conversations between Brennan Soursby, his legal team, and the NCAA were about a suspension. I would tell you, Rich, factually, was longer than the two games that was imposed by the judge that they ultimately went with here.
So the NCAA. Could have way back in the spring, further back than that, because this has been going on for a while that they were looking into this because Brendan Sorsby had been flagged by the gambling companies based upon his use of his accounts and his devices. This could have been wrapped up back in the spring. He could have missed a bunch of games, come back and played at the end of the year, and you would have had a really talented quarterback on the college stage. What the NCAA has increasingly opted to do is try to, as I said, with, you know, you're talking about an earthquake that certainly impacts the NCAA is you grab onto everything possible.
And in that moment, when the ground is shaking, you may not be making logical decisions. I would say, Rich, and I understand the NCAA is trying to maintain relevance. They're trying to maintain some level of power as a governing body here. You're trying to enforce that. But what's happening in court is you are repeatedly losing.
You are repeatedly suffering these setbacks that chips away at your power. You have the conferences trying to say, Well, we should be able to punish a school for playing a guy who we don't think he should have been eligible in the first place. And you have the other schools rebelling and talking about not scheduling Texas Tech. This all happens, Rich, because the NCAA, unlike the NFL, has just not had a history of, well, we're willing to reach a settlement. Most of the suspensions that occur in the NFL now are a product of negotiations.
When Deshaun Watson eventually served, I believe it was an 11-game suspension, that had been in the courts. That had gone back and forth. He's going to get six games. No, we want him to serve a year. You find somewhere in the middle and you meet because it's just not worth it to keep playing that thing out.
We've seen other cases that have gone into the judicial system. I couldn't help but think, Rich, of the Zeke Elliott case back in 2017. I covered that for NFL Network in three federal courts in three states. He goes in ineligible for week one. I come out of a hearing and I'm on with you on the season preview edition saying he can play this week.
And it was like, wait, he can play this week. I'm like, that's what the attorneys just told me. He's in for this week. And then that was a back and forth and appeals. It just, you lose control of the timeline here.
Why the NCAA continues to do that, one can only ascertain. It is about power and control. It's not about integrity of the game or anything else. But the NFL, they are nothing if not pragmatic on these matters. They want to be able to resolve things.
Yes, they will fight, and we've seen them in court, but you haven't seen it as much in recent years. If they try to unilaterally impose a suspension on Brendan Sourceby, if they, and I don't believe that they would ever do this, but if they were to imply to teams, don't draft this guy, that's another world of legal problems. There is a conversation to be had with a known adversary, as you said, in Jeffrey Kessler, who has been at the NFL PA forever. Let's figure out a way that we don't have to end up in court in this. And by the way, Brendan Sourceby is a human being at the center of this.
Again, I will reiterate: he is not a victim. He placed these bets. He did it knowingly. It developed into what he has said and his doctors have said was an addiction, a compulsion. But he put himself in this position.
He is also a human being who at this point has lost millions of dollars and just wants to move on with his life and play football. He will hear it at every stadium he goes into. He'll Have to answer hard questions from the press. He'll have to answer questions from teams leading up to the supplemental draft about not just, well, why'd you make the bets? What did you learn in addiction training?
Did you ever influence a game? Were you ever tempted to influence a game? That's the broader piece of this that, of course, teams have to get comfortable with. And again, that's where you have fertile ground here for everybody involved-the NFL, whatever team drafts him-Brendan Sorsby himself, his representatives. Let's take the courts out of this.
This is not a courts issue, this is a mental health issue at its core. We wouldn't talk about drug addiction like this, we wouldn't talk about if you had schizophrenia or some other type of a mental illness, we would not talk about it like this. This is a gambling compulsion. But again, if you took the phones of every college kid right now, forget athletes, every college kid who doesn't have these rules, I would bet you a lot of them are making tons and tons of bets and they're just used to it. The same way that I sit on the couch and scroll Instagram at night and watch all of hockey fights or whatever the algorithm is sending me, they're getting sent bets.
And your favorite media personality is saying, Hey, I got my special bet tonight. It's all part of this broader cultural thing here. Let's focus in on what makes sense. He's a really Talented player who has the chance to have a really, really good NFL career. I don't think it's in the NFL's best interest to do anything more than figure out what is the right solution for everybody involved and move forward.
Okay. Yeah, old hockey fights. That's what you're watching on Instagram, I'm sure. That is a huge one. Fights outside of sporting events.
The algorithm seems to think I just want to see people get punched in the face. All right.
So before I let you go, there's two things.
So we only have a few minutes to go here. Um who's interested? What do you think happens? with sorcerer. Who's interested in the NFL, in him?
I think that any team with even a passing quarterback need now or in the foreseeable future has to be interested in Brendan Saresby enough to do all the homework on him if it gets to a day two pick. The real question is. Would anybody? Go and use a first-round draft pick to go and take Brennan Soursby in the supplemental draft. Again, guys who go into that supplemental draft, and we've seen really talented players over the years, you know, going all the way back to the Bernie Cosars of the world in the 80s when this was a more common thing.
Again, because of, I mean, I believe Bernie, if I'm not mistaken, just delayed submitting the paperwork because he wanted to go in the supplemental draft. They've closed some of those loopholes since. But usually, guys get downgraded because of ancillary issues. Certainly happened with Josh Gordon because of, you know, drug tests, it was at the time. The last player who was taking the supplemental draft was Jalen Thompson, who's had a really good career as a safety.
And he was, I think, a fifth-round pick by the Cardinals. If you were in a normal draft, probably would have gone higher.
So, with Sourceby, you know, if you were setting, and I can't give gambling advice, I will definitely remind you in this segment on that. If I were setting the over-under, I'd probably say it's right on the second to third-round border. Hard to imagine a guy this talented gets past the third round.
So, if you want him, Yeah.
Well, why not take them in the second? And if you're a team that doesn't have a high second and you're thinking we're gonna have a late one anyway, Do we roll the dice on him? You know, we know that the Browns have two first-round picks in next year's draft. Todd Monkin has already made his feelings about the Soursby situation pretty known.
So hard to imagine that that is going to be the team. There are other two other teams sitting on extra draft capital here. You can go down the list. It's all the teams right now, Rich, that have perhaps not their long-term quarterback answer. Could the Arizona Cardinals that just took Carson Beck in the third round and are dealing with a contract standoff with Jacoby Brissette?
They got Gardner Minshew in there on a one-year deal. Could the Vikings be interested? They've got Kyler Murray and J.J. McCarthy competing. That's a hard one to think that they would get into that bucket.
But my point is, anybody who doesn't necessarily know who their franchise quarterback is going to be, you'd be foolish not to fully research this situation. Because if Brendan Sourceby had come out in the 2026 draft before all this came out, which would have been a disaster in its own right for whatever team would have taken him, or if he had played out the season of Texas Tech and gone into 2020. 27 draft, depending, of course, on how he plays, he quite possibly would have been a first-round pick. Does anybody have, let's just call it the guts or the crazy instincts, whichever way you want to play it, to just say he's a first-round prospect and it's a quarterback. I'll never have this opportunity again.
Let's use a late first-round pick and go get Brendan Soursby. This is going to be one of the most fascinating things. It all starts here over these next six days withdrawing the lawsuit. Apply to the supplemental draft, then whatever conversations go into this. But the anticipation, Brendan Soursby and his legal team, is once that is withdrawn, he is once again ineligible at the NCAA level.
Next stop is the NFL, and we'll see where it shakes up. And then when is the supplemental draft happen, if it does? There isn't even a date. No one, forget Brendan Sorsby, no one has applied for the supplemental draft. There hasn't been a supplemental draft in seven years.
When would it be? In prior years, it's been the week after the 4th of July. It sounds like this one would probably be closer to the starts of training camps. Everything's later this year. Teams aren't practicing in Pad until the first week of August.
So it would probably be mid to late July. That would be the timeline.
So in between, deadline is Monday to apply. That's June 22nd. You can meet with teams. You can hold a pro day. There's going to be a ton of background work, of course, that's going to be done.
He can choose what visits, if any, he would want to take, what teams he would want to talk to. He can try to sculpt the process a little bit as well. And then sometime right before training camp, somebody's going to be adding a very valuable, a very talented quarterback to the. Room. Yeah.
And whose July 4th weekend and July vacation plans just got blown up, right? I'm serious.
Well, I'm going to be on NFL.
So I'm hoping. I'm talking about NFL scouts and like, because this is a serious prospect, man, with a lot of. Due diligence that needs to be run here. You know what I mean? There's no doubt.
Now, remember this, though: it's a quarterback, and it's a highly talented one who could have come out in the 26 draft.
So, every area scout for teams have done a lot of background. They've seen him at practice, they've talked to the coaches. Your college director probably has gone.
Some GMs have already gone and watched him because they didn't know was he going to come out in this year's draft or next. There's a bunch of people who have already seen him live.
Now, you're going through and doing the additional work. You probably have your head coach and your offensive coordinator, your GM becoming more involved in the process. And then, you know, the supplemental draft, Rich, every year that it does take place, it's always fascinating to see who's the one person who has to sit at a computer. It's conducted via email. It's usually like your assistant college scouting director or some poor MIDI scout who it's like, hey, you got to sit inside today.
This may take a while. You got to send in the email at the right time. It's like the one archaic thing that still exists in the NFL universe. It hasn't been really relevant in 15 years. Here we are with a potential first-round quarterback.
In that thing. Damn. All right.
Real quick, very rarely do I ask you: well, somebody contractually obligated to show up has shown up, but George Pickens did so. What to make of it? Anything? George Pickens agents at Athletes First, David Mulagetta, they do not believe in not collecting your checks or giving up money for no reason. They're generally going to show up.
We'll see how much George Pickens actually does on the field. He hasn't been there, so I wouldn't think the Cowboys are rolling him out there for 11-on-11 on the first day of minicamp here. Once he signed his franchise tender about a month ago, you know, a week or so after the draft, that was a pretty clear indication that he's going to show up for everything that is mandatory. He skipped the voluntary things. He's there for the mandatory minicamp.
I would fully anticipate that he's there when it's mandatory again in training camp because once you start eating those fines, they do add up, and nobody's going to give up a million and a half dollar paycheck once you get into regular season games. He'd still love to get a contract. Jerry Jones has said there's no contract forthcoming. I believe that when the season rolls around, George Pickens borrowing a trade. And listen, we've seen it happen with the Cowboys before.
Strange things happen, but right now it certainly seems. Seems like the most likely outcome here is George Pickens is suiting up and playing for the Cowboys week one. All right, Tom, thanks very much. Greatly appreciate it. Showing up members-only style right here on the Rich Eisen Show, Tom E.P., Tom Pellisero, ladies and gentlemen.
How many do you, brother? Have a good one, buddy. That's Tom. See you, pal. All right, let's take a break.
We just got a lot of information. Josh paid on the college aspect of all of this. That's an hour three, but your calls are coming up next. I'm up half a percent on Instagram. The Rich Eisen Show Podcast.
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What's up, Franco? Hey, Rich, what's up? Not much. I love the show, by the way. I'm here at work calling off the landline.
Okay, yeah.
Sounds like you're right next to me. Do you want to do the win-loss game for the Las Vegas Raiders?
Okay, so hold on a minute. Let's set the stage here. Let's set the stage here. First of all, the music needs to be the autumn wind is a pirate, okay? All that good stuff.
All right.
But, Franco, where in Texas are you joining us? Where are you joining us? I'm joining y'all from Georgetown, Texas, just a bit outside of Austin.
Okay, and you're on you're are you off the clock? I don't want to get you in trouble here Are you all? You're all good. I'm I'm on the clock, but You know, uh. You're working.
You're working. Yeah, that's all good. It's worth it. Here we go, Franco in Texas. I'm going to go to the tax office.
I'm a tax assessor collector. What am I going to do about it? What are you going to do? What am I going to do about it? What are you going to do?
Come on, Franco. Yeah, I appreciate you assessing the situation here, which is Franco in Texas on a beautiful landline, which we greatly appreciate. It's so rare. Win-loss game for his Las Vegas Raiders. What happens in the opener against the Dolphins?
Oh, yeah, we're gonna come out with a dub.
Okay, 1-0 at the Chargers. The Chargers in LA? Yes, sir. You know, we haven't won in LA, so I'm going to have to take that L on that one.
Okay, at the Saints. You know, Our boy Derek Carr isn't there anymore, so that's a dub. Two and one, a home for the Chiefs. Versus the Cheese? Yes, sir.
At home. Mm. Mahomes, he might still be a little bit a little hurt or something like that coming back.
So we'll take that dub. 3-1 at the Patriots. You know, we always beat the Patriots. That's another duck. Four and one.
Home for the Bills.
Okay, so my best friend Wesson is a big Bills fan. Shout out to him. His birthday is coming up here in a bit, but he's gonna have to take that L. Five and one. Hope for the Rams.
So, the Rams, we're going to take the L.
Okay. All right, but you're five and two at this point at the Jets. Rich, I'm going to have to give this to you. To me, we always get to the jets too.
Somehow.
Some way so that would be a good idea. I have different memories, but I hear you five and three at the Niners. I'm going to be at that game. It's going to be a war zone, and we're going to win. Six and three, home for the champion Seahawks.
You're a head coach against the team he coordinated for. You know, I think their offense is going to take a drastic falloff, so we're going to take that dub. That's taking a dub at the Broncos at 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 2. at the Broncos. This might be for first place.
Bad boy. What do you got? We're going to go ahead and take an L1 to Black.
Okay, seven and three at the Browns. This is another trap game. We're going to lose this one. 7-4, you have a buy.
Now you're off the buy, a home for the Chargers.
So, this is interesting. I think at this buy, we may have to put in another quarterback.
So, I see O'Connell coming in with another big dub.
Okay. That's a plot twist right there. I didn't see coming. You're 8-4, home for the Broncos. We're going to win this one.
9-4, home for the Titans. We're going to win that one. My goodness gracious, you're one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, and 4. Home for the uh at the Cardinals We don't fall for any traps anymore. We're gonna win this one.
At the Chiefs. And that's gonna be a clean sweep on the Chiefs.
Okay, then gets us one, two, three, four, five. We're only beating seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, and five. What? One, two, three, four. Yeah, twelve and five.
And losing to the Browns and the Jets. Franco and Texas. Hey Franco, um This is With the ultimate of respect, I say this to you. Um Your bosses have sniffed you out, and there's a cup that they have placed right outside the men's room there. You know what I'm saying?
Just got a FedEx letter. I'm going to be running to be running this office here soon either way. Yes, Franco. Yes, Franco. Yeah.
You're the Fernando Mendoza of your office. Yes. Thanks for the call, Franco. Call back. Bye-bye.
If the Raiders finish 12 and 5, Franco in Texas goes in the Hall of Fame. Raiders win total 5.5.
So he just doubled it. He had him sweeping the Chiefs. And losing to the Jets. Yeah. I mean, 12 and 5 wins the West.
They always went out to Oakland and lost.
So I don't know if it's different with the Vegas Raiders coming east. The Raiders are 15-1 to win the West. Damn right. By the way. This Five weeks, six, seven weeks, seven.
Put up one more time. Seven-week stretch. That was incredible. Seven-week stretch for the Raiders starting in week four. Home for the Chiefs.
at the Patriots all the way across the country. Then they come back and have a two-game homestand against the Bills and Rams before going all the way across the country to the Jets. before going to the Niners and coming home for the Seahawks and visiting the Broncos. And they're going to go 12 and 5. Chiefs.
Patriots are what, four of the 10 best teams in the league? Man. Let me ask you this question.
Okay. Chargers, folks in Los Angeles or Denver or Tennessee, they want to hang in Vegas around Christmas time. Hold on. You know what I mean? Yes.
Okay. So. Wow, that stretch for the Raiders is significant. Get on it, felly.
So how about him saying I still have to revisit this. This is what I love about the win-loss game because fans add a little bit of window dressing. Mm-hmm.
So he said that coming off the buy, Home for the Chargers is when Aiden O'Connell's taking over. Meaning they're benching Fernando Mendoza or they're benching Kirk Cousins at that point in time and not going to the rookie. They're going to go to Aiden O'Connell. The idea is Mendoza sits the whole year. Right.
And then O'Connell. Finishes off with five straight wins. Right. Okay. Yeah.
That happens. Did you get the memo? Did you see the memo? Right. That would be...
Wild. If he's right, could you imagine he's right in every game? That would be like the Knicks coming back in all those four games. Did you get that memo? And then there'll be a quarterback controversy there, right?
They go to the playoffs with O'Connell clearly starting, and they'll be like, why do we pick Mendoza? We had to bench him? Oh well, overreaction Monday topics could write themselves. Of all the things that won't happen. What's more likely?
The Raiders go 12-5, or Aiden O'Connell starts a game this year. Um I'll say he starts a game this year. Injuries happen. How many teams go down to that third quarterback these days? I'm not saying it doesn't happen.
You know what I mean? And I don't want to sit here and say the Raiders are not going to be a good team. You could. I know, but 12 and 5? TJ, you like going to Vegas.
Be careful. They like us there now. We're on there. Say hello to everyone in Vegas. Everyone around right now, listening to us on the later on.
I'll be in Vegas in a couple of weeks. You know? You're getting married there. I am. I'll be there.
You will be. I'm excited.
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Oh, by the way, Baker Mayfield has spoken about his contract situation. TJ, your coach, who you love so much, you cry at the combine.
Well, you know, talking about George Pickens showing up and Dak is hurt? Uh hurt. I hope not. Banged up? We'll see.
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Hey. George Pickens showed up. He's contractually obligated to do so.
Well, he signed that tender. Thankfully. We are now less than one. Yesterday was the. Um It was one month from, it's one month from yesterday, that is the deadline by which.
You're allowed to give a franchise tag. player a long-term deal.
So they got another month to go, although Stephen Johns already said it's just not happening. It could be there.
So here's what he got to do. He did the right thing. He showed up.
So he won't be getting a whole lot of work while he's. There, but he shows up, he balls out this year, and then gets himself paid. It's very simple, it's a very simple path for him to take. I do believe that's the path. And like Tom said, athletes first don't play around with money, so they want him there so he can get all of his human monies.
And yeah, let's go.
Well, you know, my favorite coaching clichés: it is what it is.
Okay, I can control only what I can control. And I'm only talking about the guys that are here. Which is a crystal ball in your side? I don't have a crystal ball.
Well, that's true. I don't have a crystal ball.
And it is what it is, gets replaced. Yeah. I'm only talking about the guys that are here when there's a contractual holdout that a coach wishes to avoid talking about.
So that would have been, I imagine, Brian Schottenheimer's answer. But now he's Talking about the guy who's there. And George Pickens. Nice. Yeah, really great visits with George.
Fired up to have him back. He's fired up to be here. He'll do all the mock, he'll do all the individual, and we'll just keep him out of team, just let him watch, and he'll be coach pickings today during the team period.
Now that he's here, did you really was there any doubt in your mind that he was actually going to come? No. I know how he feels about this football team, this locker room, what we're building here, and so I'm not surprised to see him. And I'm thrilled he's here.
Okay. I just really Like the way he handles his business, man. He's really, he's really. done a a job that That um I'll be honest, I I I was sceptical about his hiring. I thought Jerry was going to hire somebody that he could Yeah.
Toss around just like everyone else. Let's keep it real. I mean, I'm sure, you know, Unk is still, you know, lording president. Remember Geppetto Jones? Right.
You know, but yeah, I like Shuddy. He learned from one of the best ever. His dad? Yeah. So I think he's pretty cool.
That's a great answer. Like, you're going to make him coach. Keep it fun. It's June for Crying Out Loud. And he said George, like, he knew who he was talking about, unlike other coaches who were leaving.
Hey, guess, like Pickens? George? Pickens? What? George.
Mouse? Pickens? Mouse? No, he was like George. Yeah.
Well, the coach hadn't met very face to face with the Garrett in question. Coach George. Quick question. Can you just put up a still shot of Brian Schumann or just put it up there? Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
I think I know what you're thinking, because we're both in the same is he is he J. F. Hemming? Oh I thought he was. He's 52.
I thought he was looking kind of swole. Oh, well, there's that.
Well he's also I I you know Yeah. I mean, he is doing kind of the. He's doing the hands underneath the bicep push-up on the left side. But I'm just saying, he's got the gray beard. Oh, interesting.
I don't know. As Dan would call it, a fresh coat of paint. Yeah, fresh coat of paint. Pete would call it. You'd be yourself.
I'm just. Turkey, man. Like, I mean, what are we doing here? I'm not saying he got more. I'm talking about you.
Oh, I'm saying we do the show in Istanbul for a week. Is that right? Yeah. All three of you. And then we all come back.
You know what I mean? It's flowing. Dax got it for one, guys. Dax got a knee. I got two.
Not just a knee, a sore knee. Hmm. I got two. We can have a lot of limited in team and just practice. He's got a sore knee.
Nothing we're concerned about, but we're just going to be smart heading these last couple days. Yeah. Be smart. Just be smart. I don't love that.
It's June, bro. Yeah, exactly. Why why is this Niso already in June? He might have bumped it into something. I don't know.
It's only going to get worse. I don't know. You know what I mean? I don't know. Don't worry about it.
How about that? I'm not worried about it. No, I'm no. Are you worried about it? Tell him.
Are you worried about it? No. You know who's not worried about it? Yeah, you're not worried about it. I'm not worried.
Yeah, you're worried. I'm not worried. I'm not worried. It's June. Why is he sore already?
So, Pickens has shown up, and so is knee soreness for Dak. That's cool, dude. We'll be stories that we get bored waiting for football talk. Another one is always a contract situation. Remember the last time we heard from Baker Mayfield?
Uh prior to a practice, he was talking about his uh contract not being done. And how there's a deadline by the beginning of the season that we wind up and how he loves being there. Let's get the update. Pretty much the same, but for me, like I told you guys, it's not going to affect how I approach this. Things will happen when they should, but for now I'm worried about getting better each day, finishing minicamp in this off-season program the right way, and going into training camp.
So, yeah, just handle it one day at a time. Man, contract situations just suck. They suck. What's the number to start with? Four?
He wants a five? I think at this point it's got to be five. It can't be three. No, those days are over. Don't you think?
He took the discount to go there in the first place. We don't shine shoes anymore here, you know. That's right. He's not shine. He's no shine box for Baker.
Don't mess with my son. Give me back my son. You cannot mess with him. Remember, we were in the coffee shop when we were in San Francisco. He was there with his wife.
I was like, is that Baker Mayfield behind us? And then as I said it, he was literally standing right behind me.
So I think he heard me. Yes, I am. Yeah, it's me. You could just go up to him.
Well, it was because we didn't I just happened to look out of the corner of my eye. I was like, 7 a.m. It was very early. That's a good point. This show is as baker-friendly as any show on television.
Then you walked in and went and sat with us. Of course I did. Why wouldn't I?
Well, you're a little tighter with him than we are. I don't know him like that. I'm not saying you go accost him. Just go, hey, Baker. What we did, we didn't give the nod.
Oh, yeah, because we walked in and he was sitting in the back. Yeah, and we were just kind of like, oh, and he gave us the oh, I know you guys. Yeah, I know you guys.
Well, we all had Rich Eisen Show backpacks on. That was it. And then you walked in and were like, hey, yes, I know. That's the way I act when I'm around Paker Major. We all had Rich Eisen Show backpacks on.
So I think that's hey, then you understood that. And then I got overnight oats, and that was the end of it. I'm being healthy. You know? The Rich Eisen Show Podcast.
Mm-hmm.
