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49ers quarterback Mac Jones. Coming up. Raiders quarterback Kirk Cousins. Two-time U.S. Open champion Wyndham Clark.
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One hour from now. U.S. Open two time. Two time. Two time.
Two time. U.S. Open Champion. Wyndham Clark. will be here.
He deserves a laurel and a hearty handshake, and we'll find out what kind of grape he is. He had after winning on Sunday. I do think it was really cool, and Dan Hicks kept noting this: hey, dad, he doesn't know that dad is here. Doesn't know the dad is here. Doesn't know the dad is here.
And part of me figured that he had been able to spy dad at one point. I don't know, man. He's losing grips on the open on Sunday. You're probably locked in. You're not really looking at the gallery.
And dad wasn't like yelling and waving. Yeah, right. Hey! Hey, over here. Hey, stop hitting it in the festival.
Right. Right. He was the one who was heckling. Yeah. But the reaction was really cool on Father's Day, and I think there was a little bit of shock there as well.
We'll ask Wyndham Clark in an hour. Oh, hey, oh, hi, kind of thing. Yeah, the mics picked it up as we did the round of handshakes and hugs and all that afterwards. Oh, wow, it's dead. I would be somewhat surprised if I, while at work, turned around, like, my dad is here.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That happened to me once, not my dad, my brother. I was at, it was the final Red Zone show ever on DirecTV. And all of a sudden I looked over there, my brother was here.
He had flown in. I had no idea he was there. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you doing here? Let's introduce the entire crew here.
Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Brockman. Still a Celtic fan for now. Oh, Jalen Brown is still a Celtic for now. For a while. World famous A1 Mike Del Tufa.
Hello. How many Instagram followers do you have now? Real or fake? Mike, we don't know what the answer to that is. You tell me.
Honey boy. How much did you pay? No, I paid nothing.
Okay. Yeah, right. Couple good Instagram reels, give you followers. Yeah, right. Anyway, goblin.
Hey, maybe I'm just envious. I can't grow my Instagram. Everybody, follow me on Instagram. I can give you a number. They'll do this at 78,000.
How is that real? Like, what are we doing? All your videos are like static shots of a mixing board or you on the strand going, ah, like that. I haven't done that in a long time. No selfies.
Turn your likes back on. We need to be able to see how much you're getting. Nope. Because I'm guessing it's still around the 438 number. Nope.
Titan. TJ Jefferson, how's your IG? Fraud, Mike. I probably don't have as many followers as I should, but I have more than I actually want, if that makes sense. Interest makes sense.
I want people up in my business.
Okay. Could show you how to take self-tj 22,000. Yeah, TJ's working. It's a hard earned, though. 22.
There you go. I should have 120,000. More than me. Not paid for any. Not a dime.
Not one. TJ, I think you're more than me. TJ, didn't you?
Well, you know, I used to be out in these streets, Andrew. Like, if Instagram, guys, if Instagram was around. existed around 2002 three four I'd probably have a million followers with all the stuff I was doing. A million. I was in these streets.
You know what I'm saying? I got 28. I was doing things, Andrew. You're more. I was in these streets.
TG is a big deal. Also, a big deal: the World Cup. Woo! The 2026 FIFA World Cup. Portugal just kicked off, right?
Portugal just kicked off. I am in Portugal on Saturday. Woo! And the plan is to watch the game somewhere in public. Don't know where.
Don't know how I'm going to pull this off. Probably a couple good places. It will be quite a fiesta. Portugal and Uzbekistan scoreless in the first minute. Ronaldo has been dragged for like a week.
He's 41. For how he played last week, and the team, like, give him a break. Give him a break. No, he doesn't get a break. He's 41.
Get a break. I mean, Messi's, what, 38? Exactly. We just watched LeBron at 41. I'm sure they go to the same doctors.
My point is: it's one game. It's one game. Like they're gonna they're gonna win this one And then it's going to be winning in on Saturday. Or Friday. Saturday.
We thought they were going to win last week. I know. England and Ghana coming up at 4 p.m. Eastern time. Panama and Croatia at 7 p.m.
Eastern Time. And then the late game the 10 p.m. Eastern Time game, Columbia. Colombia and Congo. The Democratic Republic of Congo.
Okay. World Cup footballers under the most pressure. Top five. I want to just. Oh, yeah.
Ooh. Top five. I mean, Ronaldo's one through five. Every superstar in this tournament is scoring multiple goals per game, and he had zero last week. Look at Mbappe yesterday.
I mean, Mbappe. Look at Holland yesterday. Everyone's scoring multiple goals. Accept him. And he sits there waiting for the ball.
Again, it's one match right there. The strike. I'm not a Ronaldo apologist. You sound like you're a bad guy. You're going, yep.
Let's wrap our arms around soccer. Before I begin here, and I want to get this out of the way. Oh, wait, he just scored. No, no, no. We're not going to score.
He scored. There he is. As you're old Jesus, I'm just scored. I couldn't even speak. He just scored.
That's incredible. Do I take credit for that? I'm taking credit for that. No, I mean, he didn't hear it, so probably. Do you take it back?
No, he needs to have four more today to catch up to these guys. What if he has two? He's getting two. Hat-trick or bust today. Hat-trick or bust.
Oh, he looks so relieved. Yeah. Literally, a piano has been lifted off his shoulders. Yep. My man's pounding his chest.
He is fired up right now. To be clear. Last Friday on the show, I told you how much I love the World Cup, right? It's awesome. I'm with you.
TJ. I'm not making this up. Last Friday, I wrapped my arms around the World Cup, gave it a cup, gave it a big abrazo, right? I love the World Cup. It's hard not to.
Good. I just want to preface my comments with that.
Now I'm going to look at the camera and I'm going to say. This is a pretty sick quote by Ronaldo, but it is sick. Ooh. Wow. I'll tweet it out.
I am not the biggest soccer fan. I'm not a guy that wakes up at the crocodile here on the West Coast to watch EPL matches. I have now been to multiple soccer games. I went to an Arsenal game last year. I went to a Polkado Jr.'s game many years ago.
And Buenos Aires, I experience, I love the experience. I respect the cultural force, the sport, and the athletes, and all of it. No, I I'm a football guy and a baseball guy. Maybe to a far lesser degree an NBA guy. But football, baseball, that's my jam.
That's what I watch. I love the Olympics as well. Obviously, I do that for NBC and I've always enjoyed those experiences. I beg your pardon. But no, I am not the guy.
That watches soccer pretty much outside of the World Cup. I follow it like I know the names. Can I tell you where they are on the table or the standings? No, I don't. I can't, generally speaking.
Okay. When I went to the game last week, I was sitting with my brother and my nephew. My brother is that guy when it comes to soccer. I learned a lot, to be honest with you. Like the little nuances, and he played when he was younger.
Right. It was on like a youth travel team that played all over America.
So he sees things that I don't see. I I just don't. I I don't. I would still like to offer some suggestions for soccer. I realize I may upset some of the soccer people, but soccer people.
Let me just say this. Don't come back, I beg of you, with, well, you just don't get it. No, no, no, no, I do get it. Like, I just laid out how I get it. I respect it, I like it.
But the things I'm going to suggest Do not come back with, well, you don't get it. No, I do, and I think some of these things are silly. I think some of these things are silly. When Brock Bitt and I discussed this last Friday, off there, because after the show, to show you how much we love soccer this past Friday, you and I hit a bar, had a couple of beers for lunch, and we watched Team USA's big victory in Seattle over Australia. And it was awesome.
Okay? We had a blast. It was great.
Sounded good, right? Yeah. Sounded great, Mike. Perfect. It was amazing.
I care about it. Del Tufo, you're. You Fuck. Pitch perfect on the speakers in the bar. Thank you.
Fantastic. All right, five suggestions for the World Cup. Suggestion number one. Give the NFL that magic spray that miraculously cures injuries. We need that spray.
Like, what is that? They haven't taken it out a lot. I've only seen it a couple of times. Imagine. But we have seen it.
You have seen it. I believe in the Brazil game opening weekend. We saw it. It makes an appearance. Magic spray.
Can you imagine? Can you imagine if the NFL had this magic spray where a guy just comes out? Shh. He's magically cured. They don't have to go in the blue tent.
Magic spray. Don't need the blue tent. It's the blue tent, right? Magic spray. Spray.
Nope. Don't need questionable, probable. Nope. Magic spray. Give me the magic spray.
Make it like a shower. High ankle sprain, magic spray. Shh. It's magic. It's like poor robotessin, though.
Hey, these guys look like they got shot. Add water mobetusin. They're rolling around on the field. Magic spray. They're cured.
Yep. We need the magic spray. Rule number one. Windex. Rule number two.
This one will be slightly more controversial. Or suggestion number two. Stop the clock for hydration breaks.
Okay, hear me out. Hear me out. The soccer diehards hate the hydration breaks. Oh, yeah. Hate them.
It's hate them. Especially when you go to commercial. God forbid, Del Tufo, you not only. Running the board, but producing and directing. God forbid you Go to a side box, a sidebar, like we're doing on the screen right now.
That's exactly it. And run an ad. Oh, no, no. God forbid you make money during these three-minute hydration breaks. I get it.
You don't like the hydration breaks. That's fine.
So we are already upsetting the soccer universe as it is with the hydration breaks. We agree on that? Yes. But they've happened for years. It hasn't given it's new.
Right. The commercial breaks are new. The commercial breaks are new. We we had them in in or we had hydration breaks in in in Qatar and now we're having them here. Why don't we just stop the clock?
If we are going to be so sacrilegious And stop the game. The game is stopped. They are not. Pretending to play the game. Stop the clock.
Stop the clock. Would anyone actually be hurt? You don't get soccer. No, I do. I just think it's silly that for these sacrilegious hydration breaks, just take the sacrilege a little further.
Like we're already upsetting the fabric of the sport. If you're going to go there, And shake the sport to its foundation, then just stop the clock. At this point, what does it matter? Stop the clock. Well, they add the time at the end.
Yeah, do they? I mean, they do, okay, but it's not really on the screen. Oh, it is on the screen. Yeah. It's up to the ref.
Very hard.
Well, there's three minutes they've been doing for the hydration. It's up to the ref. And technically. It's up to the ref. Yeah.
Okay. This one you're going to hate. Just stop the clock for goals.
Well, we have the time at the end, it's a minute for every goal. Hmm. I don't know. We don't Imagine if there's a running clock after touchdowns. Minute-ish.
Oh my God. And it's Mac Jones to Ricky Pearce all touchdown. With 15 seconds left on the clock. Oh, no, that's the game.
Sorry. That time ran off as. It's Mac Jones celebrating with his teammates.
Okay, I know you're going to hate that. Yes, I do have an issue with the clock. This one This one I think we can all stand by. I need to see yellow cards. And a lot of them for flopping.
Well, it's subjective.
Well, the clock is subjective too. Give me yellow cards. for flopping. Faking injuries is part of the game. There's only one referee, it's theater.
I'm trying to draw a penalty. Like if you only have to Appeal to an audience of one. That's why I'm flopping. Nope, soccer fans will say that, and I get that. It's not like the NBA, it's not like SGA.
Do you criticize SGA? Yes, I do. Albert Breer, friend of the program. Burke. You know, was commenting on a flop yesterday.
The guy got hit across the face, right? The Argentina game, you know, right in the nose, and he. Fell back again as if it was a catastrophic injury for which he'd still be hospitalized. Yeah. And people went after Bert when Bert tweeted about the flop.
And he said, Hey guys, here are some NFL tweets from the past year in which I criticize people for flopping. Yellow card for flopping. An In? N TJ. I'm down for that.
Yellow card for floppy. But we got to change. It can't be a yellow because the flag's yellow.
So we've got to give it another color, I think, though. We need yellow cards and all kinds of stuff. No, no, I want it yellow. You want it yellow.
So I want it yellow. I mean, I want it to have the gravity. I want the power of what is currently a yellow card. In other words, you get two, you get booted. But I'm saying the penalty flag is yellow.
So wouldn't you want a different color for your Is all I'm saying.
Well, it can't be red. It can't be red, like ambulance red cross. No, because red is red. But I agree that they're holding something enough. Blue.
Why not? Yeah. Well, this is Andrew's list. He has to do this. Yellow means infraction.
Okay. Yellow means infraction.
Yeah. Yellow like the helmet on your desk, right there. Pella. Shout out Pella. Yellow card for flopping.
I I think that should be the least controversial one of these. I get it. You guys don't want to deal with the clock. The clock is part of the game. You don't get it.
No, I do get it. I just think it's silly. It's silly. I get it. You don't get the sport.
No, I do. I like it. I like it. I just think the clock thing is silly. It's the only sport for which time is kept.
But the time doesn't matter. Andrew, that's always been my argument.
So I completely don't get the sport. I do. I do. It's part of the free-flowing beauty of the game. That's what the clock is.
It's a living, breathing thing. I understand that. Ronaldo free kick. Yeah. Ronaldo free kick.
Literally, just about oh man. V-scores are good.
Okay. I'm doing a victory lap. Yeah. Yep. You demanded I have one more thing.
And he immediately scored. We'll get to the one more thing. You demanded a Ronaldo hat trick. It's almost like I'm dialed into Houston right now. You're the only person on earth who thought Ronaldo should be scored.
We've bet on you.
Okay, if you're just running against Portugal on a Ronaldo goal. Leeds, Uzbekistan, one to nothing. Ronaldo in the sixth minute. And is now in, I can't read that screen, I believe in the 12th minute lining up for a free kick just outside the box. See, they should stop the clock for this.
This is taking forever. Yes. There's been at least a minute while they're just sitting there. Just getting everyone lined up and where they're allowed to stand. Can you imagine in an NFL game?
Oh, God. In an NBA game, while SGA.
Well, Wimby. Flailing his his arms, argued a call that kept the clock going. Yeah. Uh You don't get it, it's 90 minutes. No, I do get it.
Big five silly. Used to sit in that. Like, this isn't an injury timeout. No clock. It's in two minutes.
He still hasn't kicked yet. There was a referee injured last weekend. We don't know he does. Oh, he was a fake out! Oh, you're ahead of me.
Yeah. That was sick. Go! Ronaldo did the fake out, and the other guy kicked and said, Go!
So it's not Ronaldo. 2-0, Portugal. It's not 7, it's 23.
Okay. Portugal. That was sick. At NRG. He got it.
He get it. You know what's odd? It's Mendez with the second goal. Houston Stadium.
So ESPN.com, ESPN Pluto Comm, not NRG, has NRG on its scoreboard here. Houston Stadium.
It's funny. Ronaldo ran off. He ran off the pitch like this, like putting that down. We outsmarted him. He smarted you.
We outsmarted him. They did all go one way because they thought it was going to be Ronaldo. And here is my final. Suggestion for the World Cup. Not a criticism, a suggestion.
And this comes as a broadcaster.
Okay. American broadcasters, I beg of you. You're calling it for an American audience. Please use proper grammar and subject verb agreement. I knew that you would be on this.
This is. You are the grammar police, and it really annoys me that they say England R. Instead of England is, what are we doing? Not criticizing a specific broadcaster because they all do it. And I don't know who's calling this game.
I have it muted here in the studio. They all do it. But I bet you it was just said: Brazil are leading two to nothing.
Now, if it's an international broadcaster Specifically, one from His Majesty's United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. And this is the way you've always called the game. That's fine.
I get it. I get it. If you're an American broadcaster calling, can't we just say Brazil is up two to nothing? That's how we talk here?
Well, that's not the sport. You don't get it. No, actually, I do get it. I do. Just like you're.
You're talking to an audience that Has proper subject-verb agreement. That's all. This is how we do it in the United States. I still like soccer. I am still embracing the World Cup.
It's just grading when it's and the United States are up three to nothing. Nope, nope, nope.
Okay. Is up. Three two nothing. And Brazil are excited. Yes, Brazil are excited.
Come on. It just sounds silly. It sounds so silly. And even on the written word, ESPN.com will have stories written here. W with quote unquote English soccer, like British Subject ver agreement.
on the front-facing American page. And I'm like. Good. Those are my five suggestions. Not criticisms, just suggestions.
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I'm Andrew. Portugal up 2-0 on Uzbekistan. Hashtag as expected. Ronaldo has a goal. He set up another goal with a little sleight-of-hand free kick.
Mendez was the one that actually scored the goal. And Brockmitt is happy because he. He basically said it's a hat-trick or bust. For Ronaldo. I put the pressure on him and he immediately scored.
So, like the true legend and champion that he is, Ronaldo answered the bell. Yeah. I'm taking full credit, TJ. As we await for cousins here, can I say a quick word? And Wyndham Clark is going to join us in about a half hour, the two-time U.S.
Open champion. I want to say a quick word here about.
Social media and clickbait off-season NFL headlines. If I could.
Okay. It is content aggregation season. The NFL has, it's always content aggregation season, but it is aggregation aggravation season because so many of these headlines now are really nonsense because no one's at work. Jeremiah Love had a presser yesterday with the Cardinals, but their minicamp was a week ago. And I texted someone there: wait, wait, what?
Did they extend many camps? No. They just asked Jeremiah because he was in town to do a presser. But. Other than an interview like Mac Jones or Kirk Cousins, and we're fortunate to have them both, grateful to have them both today.
No one's on a podium, no one's on a practice field, no one's really making any news. Perfect example, Joe Thomas. Yesterday or Friday was on the show here. We talked about Shador. It was a Brockman question, who starts more games?
It's a it's uh what's more likely. Yeah. Right? Shador or Deshaun? Joe gave an answer.
It's not some bold prediction. It's not a slam on either guy. Nope. He was answering the question that I teed up for him, actually, that Brockmen teed up for me, and that I passed it along to Joe. I mean, it's not news.
It's all we've been talking about for months. It's not news. It's made headlines, and Joe's had to answer people back on Instagram because people are angry. I should apologize to Joe for that. It's okay.
I mean, there's news in front of the program, ESPN Radio Cleveland. Tony Rizza? Said, I'm hearing that maybe teams are calling about Shador.
Okay, guys. Yeah. Teams all players all the time. That means he's going to get traded? I don't know.
No, unlikely. Probably not, right? But It's content aggregation season.
So with that in mind... Let's welcome in a friend of the program. It is great to have him on. He is the new Las Vegas Raiders quarterback. Partnering with Bank of America today to host a golf with us clinic in beautiful Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Kirk Cousins, how the heck are you? And you're doing well. Yeah, back in my home area in West Michigan. Good to be on with you. Looking forward to this event with Bank of America today at the Kent Country Club.
Do you count the days in your offseason because there are so few these days? Like, do you have everything planned out?
Well, I wouldn't say everything's planned out. In fact, I think the plan is no plan when you're on vacation. But we my whole career, we go back to my home area in West Michigan and we pretty much post up here for the entire time. It's never long enough, but I consider us pretty lucky to have about five weeks of a summer break and We enjoy it every year. What's your handicap these days?
I'm like a 12. I'm nothing special. I like to play. I've always said like when I'm done playing football, I'm going to commit to really trying to get down not just a single digits, but like seeing how good I could be. But I just haven't put the time in yet.
And my two boys are seven and eight. And they're getting into it.
So I think all three of us are going to grind on our game together in the next few years when I'm done playing. All right. You're working with kids as part of this Bank America clinic today. What is your? I assume you have your list of things you teach young quarterbacks if you ever work with them.
What would you. teach what would Kirk Cousins the twelve handicap Teach a young golfer today. I'd probably teach him to not listen to me and somebody else. But I'll tell you what, grip is kind of where it starts. I don't have a great grip, and so I'm kind of.
Behind the eight ball from the start. You know, from there, I just try to be an athlete and make it work. It's funny too, because when One day, my driver's the club that's working for me. The next day, it's my irons, the next day it's my wedges. And I'm like, man, if I could just put it all together, I could be somebody.
But the inconsistency, similar to quarterbacking, you know, it's who can be consistent. And on the golf course, I don't think it's much different. Have you played in Vegas yet, Kirk? I did not get out this spring, but I do plan to play a little bit. It's nice, it's sunny every day, great golf climate, great golf culture, a lot of good courses.
So I plan to get out a little bit during the season. Not a lot, but I hope to play here and there. We're talking to Kirk Cousins here on the Rich Eisen Show: Andrew Filling in, Chris Brockman, Michael Del Tufo, T.J. Jefferson here as well. We were joking, and I know you've heard these jokes, Kirk, off the air.
Like, you and Fernando Mendoza are the perfect quarterback duo for Vegas. because you're kind of the anti-vegus. You're not going out in leather pants with three buttons undone and the chains and having a blast. Although you could get the crypto chains going in Vegas if you really wanted to go there.
So it begged the question, what is a night out on the town In Vegas like for Kirk Cousins. Are you playing slots which you're allowed? Are you going to a buffet? Are you seeing a cirque show? What do you do?
So there's a lot of good shows. I'm excited for Backstreet Boys. On an off day in training camp, I'm probably going to go see Backstreet Boys at the spear and wear all white and do the whole deal. You know, Donnie Osmond, my mom had me listening to Donny Osmond when I was growing up. Probably got to go see him at his residency.
Got to see a Cirque show, although in Las Vegas, there's like a half dozen you can pick from.
So, a lot of entertainment. You know, I love to play golf.
So, if I get some time, I'll play golf. But I went down to the strip, you know, during mini-camp, Mondays are a pretty light day.
So, I went down to the strip when we wrapped up for the day. and just kind of walked around and It's not that easy to walk around. They don't really want you to leave the casino you're at.
So I realized that maybe going down to the strip and just walking around isn't the ideal way to do it, like you might do when I lived in Washington, D.C. or Minnesota.
So I got to figure that out still. But we like it there. It's a cool place. Yeah, it's hot as Hades as well, walking down the sidewalk. And then you have the guys doing this trying to hand you those cards, which, you know, I'm assuming you're going to.
Give the highest. Yeah, I'm still interested about the heat. I've never practiced in 115 degrees. I think that's coming. But it is a dry heat, so that maybe saves us 10 or 15 degrees.
Uh I'm told training camp in September can get can get pretty hot. Yeah, and that's why they usually practice, or at least they have in the past, at like the crack of dawn at 7 a.m. to avoid the heat. Are you and Julie gonna take Fernando Mendoza to the Backstreet Boys. If he would like to go, he is welcome.
Although, what I'm learning with my teammates, you know, it's really the coaches. who I kind of get along with with like movie quotes and music because it's the coaches who kind of grew up in the same era as me. When I start talking with teammates about like a movie I loved in nineteen ninety five, They aren't really able to quote it with me.
So, but if he wants to go to Backstreet Boys, he's welcome to tag along. I mean, that would be a great bit. If the Raiders' content team, or forget Raiders' content team, I mean, put it on your social, make your own money. That would be a great bit. It's all about content these days.
And as you know, NFL News in June and July, we're looking for content.
So I'll try to give you what I can when I can. Oh, we're already aggregating this as we speak behind the scenes, Kirk. I appreciate you. In all seriousness, whether it's at the sphere or, as you said, making jokes like your coach is 39, you're 37, your quarterback clearly is 15 years younger. How has that dynamic gone?
We have seen all the bits, and the Raiders have leaned into it. Seemingly, you have as well. But you know how this goes. He's the first overall pick, and inevitably he's going to throw a couple of touchdown passes, and Sports Center is going to go nuts in the preseason. You know, that is coming.
And you know how it will be handled by the people that go on TV and whose job it is to give an opinion. And the opinion, Kirk. Look, I'm older than you. Like, I get it. There's always someone younger.
Like, is always going to be play the other guy. How do you plan to handle that? Yeah, I think it comes with the territory. You're 15 in the league. I'm no stranger to how this thing works.
So you go out there, you play the best you can, you help your team the best you can. contribute to our team success and and you let The decisions get made as they get made, but I expect to be able to help this team win and to be out there on the field. And you roll with whatever happens. You stay focused on what's going on inside the building. I don't think it's ever helped me to kind of look at what's happening outside the building and just go enjoy the process with your teammates and your coaches.
And we'll see where it all settles out. What's Clint Kubiak like?
Well, I was with Clint for two years as a quarterback coach and then a third year as the offensive coordinator. And then we were apart for, I want to say, four seasons and now getting back with him as a head coach. You know, he's the same guy he's always been. You know, he loves football. He's a very hard worker, very humble.
Um, you know, he's got a great way about him. He's he's serious, you know. There's not a lot of time for tomfoolery or, you know, I told him after OTAs, I said, Coach, this is probably the most urgent. And most productive OTAs I've ever been a part of. But that starts with him as the head coach.
He created a sense of urgency from day one all the way through the 10-week program. And I thought we got a lot of work done. We got a long ways to go, but we laid a good foundation, and then training camp is where we'll pick it up and continue to get ready for that first preseason game. I've had very little interaction with him, full disclosure here. He seems from afar, tell me if I'm wrong, to be one of the.
You said focus, serious, quieter head coaches. Is that fair? Yeah, no, he doesn't need to be a man of many words. I think he. Quieters of fair assessment.
But that's different than. lacking conviction. or lacking um You know, that intensity. I think that his intensity, his conviction, his belief in what he's doing, having an identity. I think there's no confusion from us as a locker room as to what our head coach expects of us, what he wants our football team to look like.
And so I would never confuse that with just being quiet. I think there's a certainty there that's comforting as a player. One last thing here. I want to go back if we could to a sport that you're obviously helping kids with on grass. We had Mac Jones earlier on speaking specifically about grass.
Because George Kittle and everyone have commented, has commented, watching the World Cup, wouldn't it be great if we could have grass in all these stadiums? And they always point to the injury risk. And look, it's easier to get tackled on grass than it is to get tackled on turf. But at the same time, Kirk, remind me, correct me if I'm wrong, your Achilles injury happened on grass.
So the idea that grass magically cures all injuries, I think, is a bit of a fallacy, yet we all prefer the grass. Where do you come in or come down on the idea that the NFL is ripping up the turf and putting in the grass for the World Cup? They could do it now. I could go deep on this topic. I don't know that people want to listen to me go detailed about grass versus turf for the next 15 minutes, but.
You know, when I was coming up, field turf was new. And so it was really exciting to go play high school football or middle school football on a field turf field. There were only a handful of them. I remember when Nebraska first got field turf, it was a big deal at the University of Nebraska.
So you kind of watch this excitement of. We don't want to be on grass. We want to be on field turf. And then I got to Michigan State, and we became one of the few schools in the Big Ten by the time I left Michigan State that still had grass. And I remember saying, Hey, would we ever do what the big house did and the horseshoe did and go to field turf?
And they said, No, we have such a robust turf grass management program here at Michigan State that, out of sheer pride and respect for that department, we'll always have a grass field. And I started to notice as we played around other stadiums in the country that. You couldn't beat Michigan State's surface, and the natural grass field felt so much better. Than the nicest field turf you can get. And so I was always after college going to the NFL, you know, preferring grass.
And then, you know, you have, like you said, not all grass surfaces are created equal.
So you go over to Wembley Stadium in London that had a different feel of natural grass than Lambeau Field, than the Bermuda grass down in the high heat cities like Tampa. FedEx Field had its own unique grass that there was a lot of discussion about their surface over the years. You know, I've always said well-kept grass like a Michigan state. You can't beat that, but that's assuming that it's going to be kept to the standard that you're expecting. And field turf is just such a simpler answer in so many ways for so many people.
I don't quite understand all the ins and outs of what it took for the World Cup to be there and provide grass and then what it would take to do that for an entire football season. That's a much bigger ask than for one month of a World Cup.
So it's over my head, and I'll just go play on whatever surface they give us. Including a well-manner-cured green today, Kirk Cousins partnering with the Bank of America to host a Golf With Us clinic back in Grand Rapids with free enrollment for Bank of America's Golf With Us initiative now closed for 2026. Participants may still register for a youth on course at youthoncourse.org, bfa.com/slash golf with us. Kirk Cousins, we appreciate your time. As you said, it is a dry heat.
Good luck today in the humidity, and good luck back in Vegas in that dry heat. Thanks for coming on. Awesome. Thanks, Andrew. Appreciate it.
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So the breaking news in the NFL. Here it comes, and Maria is seat! Breaking news. Yeah. No supplemental draft, everybody.
Oof. There is not going to be a supplemental draft. Shout out to you, Andrew. You pointed this out on Friday that this could be a possibility. The NFL has sent an email or a letter.
Sure by certified mail. to Brendan Soresby and said.
Sorry, man, we're not going to do this. You didn't Prove your point. And you sent us the documentation three, or rather, you sent us your petition three days before. The deadline With No documentation. We weren't going to do a supplemental draft.
Sorry, buddy. We're still not. I did say last Friday that I thought the silence from the league. was not deafening but notable. And the deadline was only last week, so it was not.
It was not that big of a deal. But The league has to grant a supplemental draft. Real quick, anyone know the last player drafted in a supplemental draft? Was it Inferelle Pryor? No, it was Jalen Thompson, the safety, drafted by the Cardinals, used a fifth-round pick, just signed a.
Nice, decent free agent deal with the Cowboys, still playing, good player. There was one in I want to say 2023, nobody got picked.
So there has to be a reason. For a supplemental traffic. Jalen Thompson is the only active player in the NFL right now. Right now, only active player. that enter the league via supplemental draft.
Only one.
So, these things are not annual occurrences, and when there is a supplemental draft, there has to be a real reason, number one, and number two, it doesn't mean you're going to get picked. But The NFL says we're not going to do it, which means Brendan Swordsby.
Now, he could take this to court. He has Jeffrey Kessler as his lawyer, longtime nemesis of the NFL from the union side. He could take it to court and fight it. Maybe. If he had entered the supplemental draft, if there had been a supplemental draft and it had been granted and he didn't get picked, he'd be a free agent.
He went through the process, everyone passed, he could sign wherever. He designed with the Jets. He could sign with the Browns. He could sign with. Anybody.
He can go sign to the Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks if he wanted to. But now that there is no supplemental draft, he's kind of locked out. He's got nowhere to go. Brendan Saresby. Is now likely ticketed for the 2027 draft.
As a matter of fact, The last line in this letter. Or the last paragraph. As Commissioner Goodell has emphasized, participation in the NFL is a privilege that carries with it significant responsibilities, including accountability. By all accounts, you are a talented player with potential for future success. We encourage you to focus on preparing for possible entry.
Into the NFL. Through the twenty twenty seven. NFL annual draft. Mm. Kick rocks, buddy.
Pretty much. See you next year. Anyway, um. The The gist of this is: under the CBA, the League retains sole discretion to determine whether it's appropriate to conduct a supplemental draft. The League has not conducted such a draft for several years, and prior to your submission, the League had no plans to do so as no one else had sought entry.
Your petition filed three days before the deadline without any supporting information or documentation, and only after abandoning your recent litigation efforts to avoid NCAA sanctions, does not provide a basis for the league to alter those plans. The issues presented by your petition are too significant. And too closely tied to the league's core integrity interests. to permit meaningful review. Within the timeline presented.
In other words, You got banned for gambling. Don't come to us after deciding to drop your court case. And just say I want to play in the NFL. We don't want this. We're not going to handle it.
You didn't even argue your case. You just filed. Three days before the deadline.
Sorry, buddy. We want nothing to do with this. That's in essence what they're saying. The sole reasons identified in your petition for seeking entry into the supplemental draft are that you have been, quote, declared ineligible. By the NCAA, have quote, exhausted all of your avenues to continue in the NCAA, and quote, want to now play in the NFL.
The petition provides no information regarding the basis or timing of the NCAA decision. Public sources, however, indicate that in May twenty six, May of twenty six, the NCAA determined determination, eligibility. The league does not have the complete record of the NCAA's investigation. You gambled, reports you violated state criminal law, placed wagers on your own team and teammates. Your petition doesn't address these matters, nor does it demonstrate accountability.
You sought to avoid the consequences. of the NCAA's determination. Basically, went, hey, dude, the NCAA hammered you. You're running from that, and you haven't made any case to us. That you deserve to play in our league.
So sorry, buddy, this might seem like a slam dunk to you, but We're good. We're good over here. We don't want anything to do with us. Yes, of course, Jeffrey Kessler, his lawyer, has responded, telling ESPN it's a violation of the CBA and the law. We will pursue this immediately with the NFL Players Association.
Here's the thing, he's not a member of the union. The CBA does have, does not have anything to do with Brendan Sorceby. Not a member of the union. He's not an active player. Good luck with that.
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