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From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. I'm even so happy, I would hug Dane Dawk. For a split second, today's guest: ESPN MLB insider Jeff Passon, NFL Network Insider Tom Pellicero, ESPN College Football Analyst Josh Pate, and now it's Rich Eisen. All right, everybody, welcome to this edition of the Rich Eisen Show. Lots going on in this neighborhood with the World Cup going off the Charts off the hook.
I'm still uh. Off of uh my rocker over the New York Knicks winning it all. The Knicks are absolutely everywhere hanging with Jimmy Fallon, hanging on the Today Show. Um Well, so live streaming. You know, there's lots going on with my knick-bonkers.
Somebody get Mikhail's phone. That's what Jalen Bunsen actually posted yesterday.
Somebody should take him off his phone. Has OG woken up yet? Lots happening in that neck of the woods. Baseball. Baseball.
Yes. We're going to be talking about that with Jeff Passon coming up in 20 minutes' time. Pete Crow Armstrong goes for the cycle, completes it, and then gets picked off the first base. The whole PCA experience happened last night for the Chicago Cubs. There's so much happening in the baseball neck of the woods.
And the Brendan Saresby conversation is white hot to the touch. We'll hit that with not just one guest, but two guests: Tom Pellisero on the NFL side of things, Josh Pate on the college football side of things. Good to see you over there, Christopher Brock. What's going on, man? Mitch, what's up, man?
Jason Feller. Hey, good to see you over there. Appreciate your Dodgers doing my Yankees a favor by beating the Rays last night. You're welcome.
Well, they were off. Good to see you, TJ Jefferson. What's going on? Cracking, man. That's right.
The The candles lit. Um Brendan Sourceby Scandal, saga, however you want to put it, set to argument. Setting the entire college football World aflame. Um lasted, what would you say? nine Belichick, New York Jet head coach days, pretty much?
Is that what it was? Oh, you know, I mean, Belichick was a head coach to the HC with the NYJ for about a day and a half.
So doing the math. It was just a week ago yesterday that a Judge, a retired judge in the state of Texas, about 300 miles from Lubbock. uh pardon me three hundred miles um away from the uh Texas Tech Campus. He decided that the Lubbock County District Court. uh judge the former A retired judge that was working out of there decided that Brendan Soursby could play for Texas Tech.
His lead attorney, Jeffrey Kessler, who the NFL world knows very well. This guy wins. He's kind of like, just Google him. The guy wins cases. And um He basically convinced This judge in the state of Texas that um hey Brandon stores, but yeah.
Me you know. He gambled a lot. He gambled a lot on the teams on which he was playing. He placed more than 9,000 bets, totaling at least $90,000. Yeah, that happened, but that's a sickness.
That's a mental illness. And he convinced the retired Tarrant County judge. That Um Just that basically the NCAA did not do its job to support.
Sourceby. in his well being when it ruled him ineligible. He described the gambling history as a mental health issue that the NCAA is obligated to support. And not punish. Wow.
And the judge In that county that includes Fort Worth, nearly 300 miles from Lubbock, where Texas Tech is located. Goes, yeah, I agree. He should be allowed to play. And the entire college football world, and also those who. Talk about it.
Go crazy. Jay Billis came on this program and he's at the cross section of Loving to poke the NCAA and the legal. Cross section. Former lawyer? I guess once a lawyer, always a lawyer, he's like, everybody, chill out.
This is going to be appealed and it won't be held up on appeal. And you know In this day and age, things get put into the legal machine and you think it's a no-brainer and it comes out.
Well, Uh your brain's mush.
Okay. But Fellow knows this legal process would take some time to play out. And in between, you're hearing some Conferences say we are not going to schedule Texas Tech. We're not going to schedule Texas Tech. They're going to be persona non grata, the big 12.
themselves. Issued a statement. That excoriated this judge. And Texas Tech. They filed for a federal injunction this past Monday.
For the right to potentially discipline Sourceby under its rules. The Attorney General of Texas, Ken Paxton, whose name is all over the headlines right now, as we all know. He's basically saying if they touch this kid You know, you're going to have to come through the state of Texas. And then other attorneys generals across the United States, a handful of them are like, yeah, well, guess what? We represent other states and other schools that have the Big Twelve.
Also calls as members. We got a problem with that. And the NCAA then asks an appeals court for an expedited resolution to the. Case that popped. Two Mondays ago.
Because they want some sort of a resolution before the football season. They don't want to let this kid go into the football season and sit just two games and come back and then be sad again because the legal process is taking too long.
So the Big Twelve's pissed, the NCAA's pissed. A lot of coaches are pissed. A lot of Athletic directors are pissed. And Texas Tech is pissed that people are pissed at them. A lot of people are pissed.
Everybody's pissed off. It's like that line from. Midnight run, everybody's telling me to go F myself. You know?
So what's going to happen here? Guess what happens? This kid who No doubt has Something that he's got to work out. Within himself, within his brain, within his body, within his spirit, all of that clearly.
Something's up. And I don't know if this all weighed on him. It has to have. But the bottom line is The Big Twelve's pissed. Other attorneys generals are Generals are pissed.
The NCAA is pissed. Texas Tech has his back. They're beginning to feel potentially that they're not going to be able to continue to have his back legally, morally, spiritually, who knows? And there's a deadline of June 22nd. Right around the corner.
That's the last safety valve for Brendan Sourceby and all this, and that is called the National Football League Supplemental Draft. That has to be, that's the deadline by which you must apply for. The supplemental draft, which isn't a guarantee to happen. The NFL's got to say we're going to have one for those who are now, for whatever circumstances, Eligible to play in the NFL. But weren't eligible to play during the draft.
And if he doesn't apply for that by June 22nd, then this whole legal stuff, he's stuck in that. Riptide. And I guess he And his family? And Texas Tech? and his legal representation all got together?
And decided Not worth fighting this one anymore. Not worth fighting it any more. Go to the NFL. And so that is what is going to happen. Brendan Saresby is no longer going to play college football.
And he's going to the National Football League and a supplemental draft. We'll talk about what that means in a second. A statement. Put out By Texas Checks. The head of their Board of Regents, the chairman of the Board of Regents of the Texas Tech University System named Cody Campbell.
It was a very long statement in which he's talking about the Ills and the problems of college football and athletics in general, and what it means for. student athletes and what it means for schools like Texas Tech. And he's Talking about the problems and how he wants to fix them, and he wants this to be part of the fix of everything that's going on in college football and college athletics writ large. leads to this paragraph that I wanted to pull and put on the screen as I have here for the radio audience. Quote, these same deep beliefs and feelings cause me great sadness as I inform you that Brendan Soursby will not be part of the Texas Tech football team this fall.
He will be stripped of the opportunity to continue to develop as a better and stronger man, stripped of his last opportunity to compete at the highest level. of college sports. and I pray that he can stay on his path To recovery. I echo those sentiments. I do hope that he stays on the path.
To recovery. I don't know the kid at all. I can only assume him at the center of all this over the last eight days, eight, nine days, whatever he went through. period where he Hopefully he he got a lot of portable Advice. From whoever was guiding him in that counseling.
For him to lean on over these last eight days, it could not have been easy. At all. But I just need to say this. To mister Campbell, who I also don't know at all. It's not him being stripped.
of this he stripped himself with his behaviour. Period. End of story. It's called Consequences. My goodness gracious It's called consequences.
If you are a parent. It's called consequences of your actions and when you what You don't want to punish your child. You don't want to, but there are circumstances based on the child's behavior where you are. Any position to do nothing. But discipline.
This person Based on their actions. And then, after the discipline, comes the recovery and the help. And in conjunction with that. It's what leads them to potentially seek the help that they need, is the consequence. I can't believe I need to say this.
Right. Because the gambling. And the gambling and the gambling. It may be part and parcel of this awful world. that we're all Living in a toy department.
It may be part of all of that. That yeah, he got caught up. In everything, but the bottom line is he got caught up and he got caught, and this is a violation. That can bring the entire house down. If I'm sitting at home and thinking this thing isn't on the up and up.
All this nonsense that DeAaron Fox was on the take that you see all over the place because he played so poorly at times in the NBA Finals. It's just the dude played poorly. He's not on a take. Unless you're like, Molly, how do you know? I mean, these things can happen.
These things can happen. Exactly. These things can happen. I understand it has happened before. And you're like wondering, can it happen?
So, if somebody is actually busted for gambling like this. On a team That he's playing for. There's a consequence. He's not stripped. He stripped himself.
And that's why people are pissed that a judge comes in and is just like, yeah, there's no consequences. The consequence is you didn't support him. in his recovery. Yeah. It's just...
Kind of absurd on its face. And when you push back on it, it makes you sound like you don't have any sympathy for the kid. But when I'm disciplining Susie or disciplining our children, we have nothing but sympathy for. The child, but we have to do it. Because we're raising somebody.
And we're the adult in the room.
Okay. I'm off the soapbox.
Now comes the National Football League portion of this thing. Terrell Pryor, once upon a time, had a five-game suspension thrown on him. If you look back at what happened to the Ohio State and Jim Tressel back then, based on what's going on right now, you're like, really? Like, did that really exist? Where, you know, he got money from memorabilia and he's popped for five games and Jim Tressel's coaching career is over.
Fired. That happened. Yeah. Okay. Now that's a walk in a park.
That probably happened five minutes ago somewhere in a program. You wish that's the only problem you had. Oh, my goodness. But the NFL was like, hey, he's trying to avoid a five-game suspension there. He's got to, if he wants, Roger Goodell basically told him, if you want a supplemental draft, you've got to serve the five games in the NFL.
Now, I don't know if they're going to handle that with Sorseby in the same way because you've got to be consistent. I don't know if I would criticize the NFL for doing it differently. It's a different world. Reggie Bush got his. Heisman back.
Yeah, Kayshan Booty had a kind of a similar situation at LSU. He was gambling on LSU games, but he didn't get suspended at all when he joined the NFL. I don't think. I think. I don't know what they're going to do.
Again, Jeffrey Kessler involved in a legal dispute with the NFL. They have a desire to be part of that, like a head hole.
Okay? And So I don't know what they're gonna do. But it's it's buyer beware. With the kid? You hear all the time talent over everything.
He's very talented. And you got to figure out what the everything is. And the way it works is you, you know. There's a bottom third of the league that goes first, and then there's the. A second group of teams, and then the playoff teams go third, and you raise your hand and say, I'll use a first-round pick on him.
And it's a certain, the order's random in those three groups, and whoever. delivers A higher draft choice pledge, you get 'em. The player hasn't been chosen the supplemental draft in the National Football League since 2019. It's been a long time.
So There's gonna clearly there are scouts who know what the kid Looks like on the field. There's tape that you can grind.
Next year is a monster quarterback draft. How good is he compared to those folks? But you can get him now. You can get him in your program. You can get him in training camp.
You can get him in right now. Who wants to do it? Who wants Brendan Saresby? Believe it or not. Aaron Glenn was asked this very question this morning.
Well, interesting. Hit it. I'm gonna focus on the guys that we have here now, and that's something that I'm sure me and Mooji talk about, but Listen, I got the quarterbacks here that we're focused on right now. Just one follow-up, Iron. Apart from the evaluation of him as a quarterback, the off-the-field stuff, the gambling issues, would that disqualify him in your eyes?
I have no idea what that is, to be honest, which I heard about. I see it on TV, but I don't want to respond to that because I have no idea of the inner workers of that. It's not fair to that player for me to do that. Bingo. Handled expertly there by Aaron Glenn.
By the way. Talk about being on the clock. Number of Friends or people that have texted me or posted at me after the Knicks won it all, after Michigan won it all. Jets are next, Rich.
Okay. To do what? Thank you. Good job, David. Good one, TJ.
I don't know. I don't know what it works. He's just figuring out, you know, what am I going to do with Geno Smith and the rest of the quarterbacks in my room? And I got all these draft choices. He said, Mooj, it's Daramuji, the uh general manager of the Jets, he's referring to there.
What are you going to do?
Well, I'll tell you what, There's a bunch. This is crazy. There are a bunch of evaluators. Who work nonstop in the NFL, who worked nonstop for the draft. who have been working nonstop to figure out Who's available on other teams?
We're going to get June 1st, this, that, the other thing. You're going to make this list. And they're probably sitting around going, all right. Vacation time. Nope.
Who wants Brendan Sawsby? And I assume the NFL will allow it. We'll see. He's getting picked. Yeah.
We'll talk about that with Tom Pellisero in hour two, Josh Pate, hour three. But let's take a break and talk to our friend. Jeff Passen about some Major League Baseball. He's got a hoodie on like he's Belichick. Oh, and look at this peacoat on the screen.
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Good to see you, man. Dude, this National League saw young race. Has to be as tight and as exciting and as well decorated and well earned. Maybe ever. Is that an exaggeration?
Jeff, right now? There's still a lot of baseball left to be played, but let's put it this way. The first half has been absolutely incredible. And it's Christopher Sanchez throwing fifty and two thirds consecutive scoreless innings. And it's Shohei Otani putting up an ERA that just crept over one And it's Jacob Mizarowski evolving into this fire-breathing creature, the likes of which nobody has ever seen.
And that's the wild part to me about all of this. Jacob Mizarowski was a second-round pick from the Milwaukee Brewers. And the reason he dropped to the second round was twofold. One, he was a junior college player. But two, and more than that, most of the teams that saw him thought that he was a relief pitcher.
They thought he's six foot seven. And no matter how fluidly he moves, no matter how hard he throws, the ability to have what's called proprioception, which is the, you know, knowing where your body is in space, essentially, and being able to replicate that delivery when your levers are as long as they are. There are just so few people throughout the course of history who have done it. And you can point to me and say Randy Johnson, and I'll point back at you and say, he was an outlier. And you don't make bets based on outlaws.
So, this is a combination, I think, of Jacob Mazarowski just working and working and working and figuring out what his body feels like and what he needs to do to get it in that position. But more than that, the Milwaukee Brewers' development system is absolutely incredible. And they're owed a lot of credit, whether it's Jack Central or Freddie Peralta or Corbin Burns or Brandon Woodruff in the past generation, and now Jacob Mizarowski and Jesus Matte, who's the number one prospect in all of baseball, and Luis Pena, and a ton of others in their farm system. The brewers are just doing it right. And what they're reaping in Mizarowski includes You can argue that it's the best pitched game of this decade so far.
Nine innings, one hit, no walks, 15 strikeouts. All on 95 pitches, Rich. Right. And then his last one, wasn't it like 104 miles an hour or something crazy like that? It's just.
Oh, you mean averaging 103.7 miles per hour on this fastball in the first inning and then coming back in the ninth? For the first complete game of his entire career and averaging over 102 that inning. That's what I mean when we haven't seen this before. We've seen great pitching performances since the game started in the 1870s. What we haven't seen is a guy who throws with this much velocity, throws it over the plate, and can carry it deep into games.
You know, Justin Verlander coming out and pumping 100 in the ninth inning is incredibly impressive. Jacob Mazarowski coming out and sitting 102 in the ninth inning is even more so. And to me, it's the personification. Of the evolution of baseball. And, you know, the average fastball is like 95 miles per hour right now.
And this is what you're going to get. You're going to get a guy who personifies that part of the game, but also brings in all the other elements as well. And by the way, I'm just looking at myself. This doesn't look bad. No, it's great.
I'm trying to wear it. You look great, dude. Again, the gold pea coat or, you know, the camel hair, it's really very impressive. You know, and also Mizurowski and Pat Murphy having their Messina Joe Torrey moment where he tells Murphy, don't take me out. Um and then he finishes the inning.
You know, and Messina famously finished a game years ago. It's just fun to watch. It really is. It's fun to watch. Over in the American League, how did Tarek Schubal come back so fast?
And if you wouldn't mind telling me what it does mean. for the rest of his season. Jeff, what do you think?
So, in the past, when you had a bone chip or a loose body or something inside of your elbow, they would go in with an arthroscope and take it out. And listen, an arthroscope was an incredible advance in technology from just having to take a scalpel and like slice the whole sucker open. And I Uh it it shaved. Like months off of recovery time.
Well, now they have what is called a nanoscope, and it is the tiniest little camera on the end of a tiny little needle essentially that gets stuck into your arm. And, you know, the doctor is looking around in there for the camera. And then they essentially just take away the bone chip from that. And because the trauma in the area is so minimal, it wasn't ever about when a guy was coming back from arthroscopic surgery. It wasn't ever about like the incision itself and ensuring that heals.
No, it was about the damage that's done when the arthroscope goes into the body.
Well, the nanoscope is so small, it barely does anything. And so Tarek Schoogled like a month and change after surgery back on the mound, topping out at 99.9 miles per hour. And more than that, showing teams that, yeah, his stuff is back, he's going to. Be healthy. And unless there is a wild turnaround from the Detroit Tigers.
He's going to be traded, and it's going to make for one hell of a deadline this year. Because I thought, Rich, that like when the Tigers didn't trade Tarek Schubal this offseason, I thought there was no shot that he was going to be moved to the deadline because they're in the American League Central and they're the Tigers and they're talented and they've got not just Scoobel, but they signed for Amber Valdez and they're bringing up Kevin McGonagall. All these things are true, and the Tigers are still 14 games under 500 right now. And the only thing that is preventing them from dealing Schubal is the fact that they reside. and everybody's favorite, the American League.
Mm.
Okay, so Does Scoobel, do we just set him up here with a real estate agent here in Los Angeles, Jeff? Or is this going to be a a wider net? for the Schoolbox sweepstakes that's to come next month. Yeah, I mean, the net's going to cover the entirety of the baseball ocean. You think so?
Like, really, even though I do. Really?
Okay. I do. I do, and I think it's very simple. Nobody can't use the best pitcher in the world. Like that, that's the thing about the trade deadline, guys.
When there are position players being moved, the markets for them tend to be a little bit more shallow because you need to have a very specific need at a very specific position and then go out and get that. And, you know, there aren't a whole lot of matches sometimes for position players. Everyone can use a pitcher. Everyone can use a great pitcher. Everyone can use a number one.
Everyone can use the guy who you would pick if you have one game to be pitched in modern baseball. That's Derek Schubel, back-to-back American League Cy Young Award winner. Guy who's been up to 103 with his fastball and has arguably the best changeup in baseball, and the slider's good. He just does everything well.
So, yeah, of course, the Dodgers would love to add him to a rotation that right now includes Shohei Otani and Yoshinobu Yamamoto and Justin Robleski, who's been awesome, but they also have Blake Snell and Tyler Glas now, presumably back at some point. But other teams, even the Yankees. Would love to have Tarek Skubel. They could have Cam Schlittler and Max Freed and Garrett Cole and Carlos Redon and Will Warren and Clark Schmidt, and they would still pay a hefty sum to go out and get Tarek Skubel because he's the kind of guy, Rich, who wins you World Series. Yeah.
And then. would come, I guess, the compensation for him. And it's going to cost a lot.
Well, exactly. And the question is: why would you give up? the top prospects in your organization For Tarik Schubel when you don't know what the rules are. For re-signing him or extending him at some point because a nuclear winter's right around the corner. That that would be something I'm thinking about.
It's like, okay, so I'm giving up. If I'm the Yankees, you know, I'm sure the name Lombard and La Grandier would be mentioning those two names, or at least one of them. If I'm the Tigers, right? Um because everyone else is going to be offering their prospects up. But I have no idea how much it's going to cost to sign him.
I don't know what it would work into a cap, what it would put me over in a luxury tax of some new world. Plus, I. Why am I going to get this guy if he's going to be a year older when I first get to use him? Because next year might not happen. Don't you think that's part of the the rubric here?
Jeff? No, and I'll tell you why. Because Tarek Skubel is not signing a contract extension. He is going to be a free agent. And that is how, if you're these teams, you have to approach this.
And that's what you base your offers on, right? There's an understanding that you have one advantage in this situation. And that's that the two months that you get Tarek Schubel and however long October lasts, you're going to have the opportunity to get a leg up on the other teams. The cost is going to be, as long as he is healthy, as long as he is productive, 400 million plus dollars. And I think that's going to be the case, whether there's a salary cap or not.
So, you know, I think making decisions right now. Rich, based on the idea that something that has never existed in the sports history is going to be implemented is not a prudent thing to do. And in fact, we sources tell Jeff Passon this week, we had Tom Glavin on to talk about the 94 strike and the eerie similarities between what happened back then and what's happening right now. And hopefully the lessons that can be learned by all sides so that they avoid the catastrophe that 94 and 95 were. But with Tarek Schoopel, I think it's very simple.
You are narrowly, myopically focused. On the idea that we are getting him to win a World Series this year, and that's it. And you price your offers accordingly. And you know what? Scott Harris, the general manager for the Tigers, if he gets to this point.
Is going to shop this around, and he is just going to take the best offer. Whoever offers the most value to the Detroit Tigers will get Tarek School.
Now, now, going back to what you said originally, Rich, Hmm. The Dodgers probably have more to offer than anyone else. And this is not, this is where, this is where the Dodger argument, though, like that the Dodgers are evil, kind of falls on its face a little bit. Why do the Dodgers have? If not the best farm system in baseball, then certainly among the top Three farm systems in baseball right now.
They're picking at the end of the first round every year, but they go out and they make a trade where they send Gavin Luck to Cincinnati, get Mike Sirota in, and now Mike Sirota is on basing 480 and slugging 600. They take players and they turn them into monsters. They draft well, they sign internationally well, they develop well, they do all the things that the brewers do and that the Rays do and that the Guardians do and that successful small market franchises do. They just happen to do it with the largest payroll in baseball behind them as well. And that is how you create a dynasty.
Simple as that. Yeah, you do. You sure do. And it also helps that, you know, that they Have players that defer money into the deep beyond future. Would that be out the door under some new collective bargaining agreement, you think, Jeff?
Would that be a good idea? I would be very surprised if the next CBA does not include provisions that strongly and firmly address deferrals. Yes. We're way too early in the process at this point, but I think that is a strong likelihood. All right.
What else should we before I let you go? What else should we be looking at? What else is in your notebook or your hearing? or is of interest to you that we're we're not talking about. Jeff.com tomorrow we have uh I think the list is at 100 now.
Okay. Top 100 trade candidates. And so it goes beyond Terek Schoogl. Is Byron Buxton potentially going to be moved? He has no trade protection.
He has not wanted to leave Minnesota, but there's always the chance where he looks at the trajectory of the organization and says, I'm 32 years old. I want to go win right now. Did the Astros consider moving Jeremy Pena, who has been incredibly consistent at shortstop for them for World Series MVP? And to me, like my favorite stories in baseball right now are the Chicago White Sox and the Washington Nationals. I thought the Nationals were going to stink this year, like bad, bad, bad.
And they have scored the most runs. I haven't checked this. I believe they've still scored the most runs in baseball this year. And the White Sox are in first place right now, Rich. The White Sox, who lost 121 games two years ago, are in first place in the American League Central right now.
And it's been a tremendous job that they've done in developing a young core of talent and then. Adding around it. And the signing of Munataka Murakami, who's on the injured list right now, was the single best signing of the winter. And once he comes back, I think the White Sox have a legitimate chance to be a problem this year. Yeah, I mean, tonight, White Sox are in Yankee Stadium.
Davis Martin, who's been fantastic, is taking on Garrett Cole. That's a nice matchup for that one. And a measuring stick for both, to be honest. You know, with the Yankees without judge, the Rays have swooned a bit. The Yankees are in the American league.
They are the measuring stick. Ooh. They are the measuring stickers. Come on, man. I mean, personally, I think the Yankees' pen, honestly, I've got bullpen envy.
When the Yankees, no, seriously, Jeff, I have bullpen envy when I see what goes on with the Brewers, the number of teams that just take 100-mile-an-hour folks that are unhittable out of the pen over and over and over again. There's like 10 such teams, the Brewers are just an example. Yanks don't have that. They just do not have to do it. Carlos Lagrange is coming, Rich.
When? Once he gets comfortable in this bullpen role, you know, the Mariners are facing the same thing with Kate Anderson right now. How long does it take for a guy to take to that role? And once LaGrande is comfortable, I think it will be sooner than later. I don't think this is going to be a September 1st thing.
I think that the Yankees recognize that he can be a weapon right now, and they want to get him those reps against big league hitters before the playoffs when he could really be that weapon. I mean, just let me be a fan for one second. My son and I watch, you know, honestly, Michael Kay is the soundtrack of my household. And um w we knew the Yankees should have put this kid in the pen. Like A million years ago, and they just finally, you know, a few weeks ago decided to do it.
We could have seen this coming down to price, Jeff. Rich, Rich, it's I'm not the expert in bringing pictures along. Nor I, nor I, but it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do. You don't want to take a talented arm like that and turn him into a relief pitcher just out of need. Because I'm not saying that this is what he's going to be.
I do not believe this is what he's going to be. But a lot of people thought that the Milwaukee Brewers should have put Jacob Mizarowski in the bullpen. Just saying. Look at him now. Good lord.
Jeff, thanks for the time. Thanks for the coat. Thanks for the fun. Thanks for the information. I look forward to seeing your piece tomorrow with the top 100 trade candidates.
You're the best. Thanks for the time, bud. Thank you, Rich. I always appreciate you. Jeff Passam, Jeff Passim, everybody.
A lot of information there, a lot of interesting talk right there. I don't know. Speaking of Milwaukee, happy Cooper Pratt Day. He's getting called up. Oh, their number one prospect.
Okay, there you go. Look at all that business. Mizorowski is the scion, don't you think? Come on now. Come on, what he's done over the last 20 years.
It's really impressive.
Now, if you gave out the sign, I understand. Jeez. You know, just give me 50 plus scoreless innings. That's nothing to be. I get it.
I think I'm in Lean Miz. It's really impressive.
I'm just hoping his arm doesn't fall off. Didn't Smalt say that recently? Yeah. All right. Let's take a break right here.
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What's up, Kenneth?
Okay. Good morning, Rich. First, I want to congratulate you on your Knicks victory. Thanks, guys. I'm really happy for you.
I appreciate that. I had so much to do with it. Even as a South Florida sports fan, I love seeing when teen fan bases that have been waiting forever and ever and ever for something like this to happen for it to finally happen.
So, congratulations. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. My question is along those lines, though, along the lines of droughts. Your NFL team and my NFL team both share Some of the longest post-season droughts, so I wanted to know.
which what's more likely to happen next, right? Which one of these do you think is going to happen first? My Miami Dolphins winning a playoff game that's the second longest postseason win drought across the Big Four. uh sports leagues or Your New York Jets making the postseason, that's the longest across the big four for postseason appearance.
So The Jets just have to make the playoffs. The Dolphins have to make it and win a playoff game.
So what you're saying. Correct. Which one do you think is going to happen first? Oh. Jets.
You think so? Even if it's by the time that I'm retired and I. In my 20s. That was standing, which wasn't going to happen first. That alone.
Gives the Jets a a leg up in this likely. Yeah. I just I don't know. I'm why am I just thinking the Dolphins are getting what they're doing right. Everybody thinks Malik Willis is going to just is just a placeholder.
for whoever comes next. Why'd they trade their best offensive player? Because they're going to have to pay him. They're they're not They're gonna have to pay him an insane amount of money. Jalen Waddle After what he's going to do right now.
Right, I mean he's making a ton of money right now. You need to if you're gonna pay that sort of money. You're going to pay it to left tackles. They're totally tearing it down to the studs. It makes sense.
To do that. But Malik Willis is now throwing to Malik Washington, Jalen Tolbert, Tutu Atwell. I understand that. Where did they come from? the folks who are running the Dolphins.
Right? I get it. Right, you could you could have sat there two years ago and like Jordan loves throw-in too. you know, Romeo Dobbs and Dantavian Wicks And gone down yada yada yada down the line there. Until those guys started bawling out, and you're like, okay.
They've got a pretty good receiving core there. I mean, there's a reason the Dolphins consensus to get the number one. The reason why they paid Christian Watson in Green Bay is because they've paid the quarterback. They know the quarterback is the quarterback. They've got the defense ready.
They need the weapons. They're ready. It's not like the Dolphins are never going to pay a receiver that amount of money. He's just doing it now. Makes sense.
Flip them, get a one, and start rebuilding your team. I I wouldn't see that they're Thanks for the call, Kenneth. I w I wouldn't see here sit here and say that dolphins aren't uh uh eager to win or are doing the right thing 'cause they let Jalen Waddle go. It kind of makes sense.
Well, if you tear it down to the ground and start up again, why didn't they trade A-chan?
Well, because he is a running back that you need those guys. But he's not a rookie deal.
So. You don't have to.
Well, you know, they're going to. I think they, didn't they? Didn't they receive a prize? I guess. Yeah, but you're saving.
He's a. You could have saved your dollar. Running backs and wide receivers are different. You're paying a running back even less than you are paying a wide receiver, and he's a home run hitter. Honestly, is he the best home run hitter that's been there since Stanton was there?
I mean, be honest. They had Tyreek. I mean, but even Tyreek, you know, on occasion would be overthrown, or he was not here, he was not there. But you're talking about Terry down in the studs. It seemed like they've just gone halfway.
I love A-Chen. I wouldn't trade him for a million years. And they're not gonna, and they didn't. That's the one you hold on to. In the same way the Jets held on to Garrett Wilson and Brees Hall.
You gotta you gotta hold on to Somebody.
Something to give the face. Right. Now, you could sit here and say, what's the difference between Garrett Wilson and Jalen Waddell? Excellent question. Excellent question.
But that may also be part and parcel of the fan base. You've already traded away so many damn young Turks from the same draft class as Garrett Wilson, I might add. The year before. But if you're tearing it down, tear it down. Which is what the Dolphins did.
Uh Uh I In that respect, I would say You got to take the one team that just merely has to make the playoffs as a more likely scenario than someone who makes it and wins one. Yeah, exactly. You know. It all depends if the Jets take Sourceby. Yeah.
Probably should think about it. Yeah. I don't know. There's going to be an evaluation that's going down. And it's happening.
And it's a bunch of people that thought. That they had the summer off? They had the summer off. And now they do not.
Well, it's just at least one guy. I guess you can you can Take your laptop on vacation and grind tape that way. Yeah. Just one guy. That's it.
Tom Pellisero coming up on the Brendan Sourceby story in hour two, Josh Pate, hour three. The Rich Eisen Show Podcast. Mm-hmm.
