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No Contest Wrestling: What Is Seth Rollins Really Mad At?

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No Contest Wrestling: What Is Seth Rollins Really Mad At?

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O’Shea and TJ discuss their picks to win the newly created WWE Women’s United States Championship in tournament format. They also react to the sudden retirement of “Timeless” Toni Storm, break down the card for “Full Gear” this Saturday and who will be the 5th man to join Roman Reigns and the OG Bloodline? The guys also reminisce about how Edge’s return to action during the Royal Rumble was much needed on the day Kobe Bryant passed away. Also, which current wrestlers would O’Shea and TJ pick to help them get out of a bar fight, and much more.

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You know, our own opinion. Sorry to the guy who always posts the time that the guest comes on at the bottom. What you want to do now? Yeah, we got a show to do, guy. Okay. But I am the heel that you love. Hey, O'Shea Jackson Jr. Hey, yo, it's me. It's me. It's that T double O J I double G two J. T.J. Jefferson. You killed it last week with the that's what she said.

I mean, people seem to like you body that. Well, just in case you guys don't know, I am a published author. I do have a book. It is called That's What She Said by T.J. Jefferson. You can find it where books are sold, which is really nowhere now because we don't have bookstores, but people on Amazon.

It's there. We're going to talk wrestling, bro. Ain't nobody reading books.

That's true. Well, I read a lot of wrestling books. Shout out to Mick Foley. But T.J., a lot of wrestling has happened. You know, did you get punched in the eye or something?

Let's let's address this. Oh, my glasses. Did you catch a hard one? And no, no, Sarah, the makeup lady just wasn't here.

I couldn't get my ugly off. Got you. OK, I was just wondering. I know if you see Jay Leno. Yo, yo, my man Jay Leno, bro. Apparently outside of Pittsburgh, about 30 minutes outside of Pittsburgh, he's staying at a Hampton Inn, man of the people. There's a restaurant. He doesn't want to walk a mile around, which I get.

So he decides to take the short route, go down the hill. My man ate it. Just face just scraped up. Let me tell you something.

Broken hand with this nail off. I know this is this is kind of wrestling related because Jay Leno, unlike most of you, has actually been in the wrestling ring. He's actually wrestled. So this does have some rest.

It's under the no contest agenda. But Cap, I don't I'm not believe that. Yeah, I saw your I saw your tweet. You said that was some loan shark shark injury. If I've ever seen it.

You tell me only this side of you is bruised and then a fingernail is off. What movie is this from? Why are you at a Hampton Inn?

You're worth half a bill. Do you think that Bischoff Eric Bischoff sent people? He still has a little bit of a you know, just a little bit of something with Jay Leno. So he went out there to get him. He has something to do with this.

If not, then it's a team cocoa. I know about y'all, bro. Conan, I'm looking at you just best for you. So, you know, all jokes aside, we hope that you feel better. Jay Leno, whatever happened to you.

It's none of my business. He wasn't that Bruce when he had to take on Rodman and Hogan. You know what I mean? Bruce Rodman. Number one, right. That that bash at the beach with Rodman and Karl Malone.

That was like, well, I guess it was Eric and Hogan, not. Yes. Yeah.

But that was the biggest news at that time in my life ever. Insane. Like in season. Yeah. It's Karl Malone. Yeah. Insane. And that's when I realized how long Karl Malone's wingspan was.

Dude is massive. Yeah. Karl Malone was built to be a wrestler. Yeah. I'm just glad no Lakers were her.

Karl Malone was there for one year, but that doesn't mean he don't count your eyes. Let's talk wrestling, bro. OK, well, we were kind of I mean, kind of. Yeah, but like current current wrestling, you know what's happening right now. We didn't discuss this last week.

Didn't have a chance. The WWE is introducing the new United States Women's Championship tournament going on. They're going to crown the first ever women's United States champion. We've been clamoring. We being the wrestling fans clamoring for a midcard women's title on the main roster. They got one in NXT.

How are you feeling about that? I mean, I've been dying for it. You know, anybody who really plays WWE 2K, you know, most of playing the game is really just creating stuff.

And then 10 percent is like playing the game. And yeah, I've had women's midcard for years. You know, I've been waiting for the design. We knew we kind of know WWE standpoint when it comes to that. You know, the whatever the men's belt is, put a white strap on it at standing. Yeah.

But I really wish some kind of way. And, you know, some people were saying maybe it's a rights thing. But I really wish the Statue of Liberty was someone Lady Liberty. That would be the women's US title. That would have been hard.

Kind of. Let's get our the third man of our six man tag manager, the playboy done in the back. Throw this bracket up and let's check this out. Right now, we had Bailey Candice LeRae and B-Fab.

They went at it last week. B-Fab. There was like an underground swell for B-Fab. It seems like, you know, I wasn't really familiar with her as a wrestler.

More like a mouthpiece overall this time. But people apparently getting behind her. I saw a tweet from Hurricane Helms that watching everyone in gorilla watching her on the monitor. They were happy for.

So that's kind of cool. Maybe she'll get an opportunity. But Bailey, you know, predictably went ahead and won that match up. And now we're also going to see Bianca Belair, Chelsea Green and Blair Davenport. They're going to go at it on the other side.

Jade Cargill, Meekchin, Piper Niven. They're going to be in a one on one on one situation. And then we got Naomi Tiffany Stratton and Elektra Lopez. One of these women is going presumably will walk out of Saturday night's main event. As the new United States Women's Champion. Oh, Shay, looking at that bracket.

What are you thinking? Who's going to walk away with the dub? I mean, it's really obviously what is the standout is Bianca and Jade on separate sides.

So that is a possibility. But I think the most interesting matchup is that Jade Meekchin Piper that can go either way. A lot of people are really behind Meekchin and really think that the work that she's been putting in week after week is kind of tailor made for her. Jade, you don't really want to mess that character up. You know, she's been an unstoppable force and Piper is just somebody who always can take a dub. She can always take a W. By the way, not to interrupt you, the fact that we got away from why would you look at Piper Niven, this just powerhouse unit and make her do drop back in the day and made no sense.

That was so like that was so awful. But like, yeah, they're finally putting her in the spot that she should be. Exactly. But I think that's the most interesting one.

Every the other ones you can kind of feel. I don't know if I would necessarily, especially with Tiffy still having the money in the bank briefcase. I think Naomi takes that that match up. And, you know, with Bianca and Davenport and Chelsea Green, there's a world where Chelsea Green still is a dub. But, you know, most of us probably feel like that's going Bianca's way. There's a lot of people online that want Bianca to get that title.

But yeah, it is. It should be interesting. It should be interesting to see where they go.

Don, can we can we pull that up again real quick? I feel just because Bianca and Jade have the tag team straps, I think that's going to take them out of the running. Yeah. Like win this to win this tournament. So not because I don't love them, not because I don't think they're good enough.

They got hardware. I have somebody else already a champion. So I'm going to eliminate Bianca and Jade. Now, do they make it to the finals? I'm not quite sure yet.

I'm looking at this. I like what you said about Tiffany. She's got a briefcase.

She can write her own story at any time. I think really what this is going to come down to is going to be Naomi and Bailey. I think they're going to meet in the finals. And then we're going to see Bailey already one of the most decorated careers in women's wrestling grand slam twice and slam twice.

You got Naomi and there's been another huge groundswell of people just loving Naomi, wanting to see her get her flowers. So I'm going to go ahead and make my prediction. Wait a minute. With a new belt, does that erase Bailey's grand slam? You're technically not a grand slam.

That is disrespectful. I don't think that's anything you can go in like we can't wipe that out. You're not a grand slam, but you can't wipe that out. So I'm going to go on record and I'm going to say that at the end of Saturday night's main event, when this tournament is all said and done. The new and inaugural women's United States champion. We're going to be feeling the glow. I think it's going to be Naomi.

He's going to take that title. There's been a minute since I see Naomi with some hardware. I mean, I would love it. I would love to see that. Yeah, man. Yeah. Naomi versus Meacham might be nice in that.

What do you call it? Semi finals. Western Conference finals.

I don't know, bro. I know you only concern yourself a championship. Yeah, I know Laker and Dodger. I get you. Mr. Been a fan of baseball for all of let's see, 32 days. I've been a fan of baseball for two months. OK. And it's worked out for me perfectly fine.

Well, good. Because, you know, the Lakers ain't going to win that. And so you might as well hop on that Dodger wagon. Am I am I tripping or am I only a half game out of the number one seed for the West, bro?

Did you not see Dalton connect with that flamethrower? Westside Connect, bro. Oh, my God. Also, Snoop, that's going to have to be copywritten. All right. That's Westside Connection is an ice cube thing.

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Right. I wouldn't mind. You know, there's many of these women. I'd like all of them.

So I wouldn't mind seeing any of them win. But, you know, I kind of feel. And while I got the time, while we talk about the ladies. Hashtag pushes the Lena, which is the Lena.

That's my dog. I formed from now, from this day forward, every episode you see me on here pushes the Lena. OK. Yeah. So you feel that's how I feel. All right.

And bring back Alistair Black. I talk about him later. You know, let me skip ahead here. Just had some news dropped earlier today. It's kind of crushed me. I'm a little hurt. I don't know how what to make of this.

I don't know if this will work. I don't know if this is a shoot, but my girl time was Tony Storm. She's announced today her retirement from wrestling. She lost the AEW Women's Championship to Mariah May at All In. Since then, she's appeared at CMLL and stardom, but she doesn't have any victories.

So she released the statement today saying that she is retiring from wrestling. I don't feel good about this. I'm a little hurt to quote Alfalfa. I'm hurt. I'm confused.

And I don't know what to say. That was Alfalfa from Saturday Night Live when Buckwheat got shot. Do you research? Watch that. Watch that clip.

The best Eddie Murphy. But O'Shea, talk to me, man. I need to compose myself because, you know, I'm a Tony Storm fan. So how do you feel about this news? I believe her about as much as I believe Jay Leno, TJ. Right. I don't.

I don't. Cap. Cap. Cap. Cap.

Full cap. There's no way. Ain't no way. And, you know, this is kind of what we would usually see happen from somebody who's about to rebrand. Yeah. Or like change their character.

And I don't want that either. No. You know, this timeless Tony Storm character has been money, money, like entertaining the best character over there. Well, I'll go as far as say the best character in wrestling. Yeah. All of wrestling company, a lot of gimmick, not like things anymore. Just the just the all around presentation of it. You believe it.

Black and white camera. It's amazing. The way her interviews, the way she speaks, the double entendres that she throws out. The fact that she's ready to F up Wendy Richter on site, you know, just Tony Storm is amazing. You know, the only thing you can think of if this is real, you know, sometimes some of these wrestlers, they go away. Maybe she's starting a family. That was something I thought, well, maybe that could be the case.

I'm really thinking this is a work. She's going to come back, maybe tweak the character. I hope it's not too much of a tweak because I love the character. I love timeless Tony Storm. I'm a fan, so I'm interested to see.

I hope this isn't true because I'm really depressed. Yeah. And, you know, Tony Storm, I obviously was a fan from NXT. And then it really felt like as soon as she got bumped up to the main roster, she was gone. You know, I tried to put her in a food fight angle with Charlotte. And I think Tony saw the writing on the wall and she's like, I need to be.

Yeah. And I really thought Tony was going to be a huge part of the the just the women's wrestling in WWE has champion written all over. And when she went to AEW, at first she kind of had that the same feel that she had from WWE.

But then she turned it on in such an amazing way. Her and Christian are two people that when they went to AEW was like, this is the best version of them I've ever seen. And it you know, there's no way she's taking that from us.

No, no, it can't be. You know, and like I said, I like Tony. I was always a fan. But I do remember, you know, as her AEW career went on, she's coming out and I'm like, what? Like, who is she? I remember saying that one day, like, all right, was this the biker gimmick?

I'm like, I just I don't quite get this character. And then. The groundwork started to be laid. Yeah. All of a sudden you're starting to see the change. And then, you know, the way she talked, the way she dressed her hair, throwing up the shoe, you know, the chin and the tits out and all that stuff. And then it's like, oh, this is this is an entertainer. This is also a whoop ass. That's what it's one of the best wrestlers on the planet.

Tony Storm. So, yeah, I'm hoping it's not true. I'm hoping we're getting word. I think we are. This is wrestling.

But I'm treated as it's real. So Tony Storm, I just want to say it's been a pleasure. It's been a pleasure watching you and just best of luck in your future endeavors. But I know you'll be back. That was beautiful, man.

Those were you trying to get some work out here? I see you, bro. Well, I mean, you know, you got you got Den of Thieves three going to be coming out in twenty six. That was wishful thinking is to have three. I won't fall after after two blows up in a few months.

Three is coming. You don't need someone in your crew. I'm just saying I'm right here. Me and Jerry Butler, you don't know.

We used to kick it back in the day. You don't know that about me. OK, you don't know I knew Jerry Butler back in the day was my man's man. Wow. And I knew it. I knew it was all it was all a fake. It was all a facade. This dude is a crazy man.

Speaking of crazy men. Yes. We are. We talked about Tony saying, you know, having her retirement, AEW doesn't need her. You know, Kenny Omega says something similar. Kenny says something similar. Eddie Kingston's talking crazy on IG. I don't know what's happening, but these are huge, huge pieces. Yes.

Over there. And I don't know if obviously I personally feel like Tony and Eddie are working. But Kenny with his with his health issues, we saw him on New Japan before we saw him at AEW. You know, that's something that's unfortunate because in this storyline with with Moxley, which I mean, I'm going to get on your ass about that, too, because you lied to me and told me he was going to take over the Superstation. That never happened. But with that, it kind of felt like we were just to use an anime term waiting for Goku in Dragon Ball Z. All the good guys get the ass beat until Goku shows up and kind of cleans everything up.

OK. It seemed like a perfect spot for the cleaner to come back. But now I'm nervous, dude. I want to see Kenny Omega. I want to see him back. I, I wasn't able.

I was able, but I didn't watch his his run in Japan and things like that. So being able to see him on American television is a treat. You know, I love that.

I want to see more of it. So I'm you know, I'm nervous a little bit about Kenny. I'm thinking obviously this all storyline, this is all going to tie in with Moxley saying this is his company. I'm interested. Right. And that's what you want.

You want your fan base to go, OK, let me let me sit down and let me figure out what's going on. Let me see where they're going to take this. And I don't know.

I have no idea. And that's what's good about this. We don't know what's going on. But that's wrestling. That's right. I don't I don't I don't trust nothing lying. Well, Stone Cold told you that years ago. Yeah. DTA.

Don't trust anybody. Anybody or anything going on in wrestling. But look there, I'm hooked. I'm hooked on what Mox is doing. I'm hooked on the fact that Pac never has street clothes on. Never stay ready.

He stays ready for a squabble at all times. You know, you got Cesaro pound for pound the strongest man on earth. You know, you got Marina Shafir like don't tell Mark Henry that, bro.

He go come here. Oh, that's right. Not not counting.

Mark Henry's like the anomaly. Right. Right. Right.

He's a he the bar. Yeah. I mean, let me just. Yeah. Just make sure we're clear on that.

And then you got Willa Yuda, you know. So the Death Riders, I think I may have called them BCC, but the Death Riders. Let's roll with this. Let's see where this is going to take us. You know, I'm I'm interested. Yeah.

Just don't lie to me no more. Yeah, that's all I'm asking for. You hyped me up like it was about to be this hostile takeover. And my man over here just beating people up.

The best part about it was that Cesaro swinging a Darby into the garage. That was that was hard. I like that. But yeah, dude, I'm I'm I'm holding out. Everybody knows last week I talked about how this was the most interesting story over there. I'm hyped for it.

Hate the name Death Riders, too. I'm not going to switch up on you. But yeah, if this has to hit, this has to land and it has to be amazing, you know, and not to put pressure on the creators, but you put in the pressure on yourselves, you know, letting us know in advance what the plan is. And then if it doesn't stick, the landing is going to hurt.

So, you know, I'm still holding out hope. I need them to hit with this one. No doubt. And since we're on a W, let's talk about the full gear card, which is honestly, I know all in is the big one. Full gear. Never disappoint. Never disappoints. You got Moxley versus OC Orange Cassidy for the AEW World Heavyweight Championship.

Freshly squeezed, freshly squeezed. I just don't think in order for this storyline to continue and really make sense. Unfortunately, I don't think that this is OC's time right now. I don't think you can take the title off of Moxley at this point.

His story is seemingly just beginning. So I feel like they got to let this ride a little bit. So I'm looking for Mox to take out Orange Cassidy in the main event.

Definitely. You know, they built him up so high right now, like so high right now. And yeah, I just don't see it in Orange Cassidy. Anybody who knows me knows I've been a fan of Orange Cassidy from the jump.

I think that is from get go. Yeah, because it's just is he's hilarious. There's something that's different, right? We've never seen anything quite like the rest of who just don't care, don't care. You know, and it took admittedly it took me a little bit to kind of come around to him.

I'm like, what is this? But then I remember years ago he had a match with POC and I was like, yo, Orange Cassidy can go, bro. Yeah, can go. Well, if you let him if you let him get them hands, it's a wrap and it's over, bro. So it's going to be interesting. I think he and Moxley have the capability of putting on a banger. I just don't think this is OC's time right now. I don't think that title changes hands because this Moxley story is just catching some life right now. We're hoping and I'm pretty sure this record still stands.

I think Orange Cassidy has the most wins in AEW history. Thank you. Right.

Right. Come on, man. It's hilarious. I love the I love his entrance. I love the one piece of pyro he uses. Everything about it is just and I think it's because with my friend group, we have this thing where we hype each other up over the dumbest things. Just anything is just and I have that same energy when you see Orange Cassidy in the beginning, because we all know once he gets going, it's a it's a different guy, which he has to be or it's borderline disrespectful to the business. But yeah, I'm a big fan. I just don't think it's going to be a night.

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Yeah. And will Osprey and many people feel he could be the best wrestler working right now? I can't say best wrestler alive because that's Max Caster.

I don't want to get sued. Wow. You know, so we can't call him that could be the best wrestler working in professional wrestling in the United States. And AEW not named Max Caster. We could we could say that. But Osprey and Fletcher is going to be that, you know, that they're going to bring it out of each other. I got a feeling that could get the no contest wrestling broadcast, maybe our five star right there. Because we got to start our own star ranking. Honestly, you know what? I like that.

Maybe you don't use stars. No, no, no, no. We got to use, you know, super kicks, you know, power bombs, elbow drops. We got to come up with something unique because you got my you got my mind going, bro. So then we got Jack Perry against Daniel Garcia for that TNT championship.

Last time I saw Jack Perry, he was strapped to the the hood of his own truck. That was that was that was I think that this is our thing. That was dope. That was dope.

That was dope because you're thinking he daddy magic. He beat him up. He's dragged him in the back. Garcia comes through. They lump up Jack Perry.

They they they strap him to the hood of his his little mobile. I don't think I have a name yet. I don't know. No. Every time I see it, though, I just think about when The Rock was making fun of Booker.

And he said the short buzz joke. Meet me. Meet me.

Every time I see it, I think meet me. So that's what I call it. So we all know of Jack Perry. He just got drove off into the ether somewhere. I hope he's OK, because we need him to defend his title at this match. You know what I'm saying? Swerve strictly against Bobby Lashley.

Yeah, let's go. Black as hell. Let me tell you, what do you think? Where are your thoughts on that one?

Oh, that's another interesting one, because you don't. Number one. But her syndicate got the numbers again. Yeah, that's always something to watch.

The character, as far as Swerve, is such a main staple of AEW that. I mean, he's so big, he could take an L, but he's taken a lot of L's lately. Yeah, things like he's I mean, what can you do when you got a pack of wolves on you? You know, it's just it's nothing. It's it's like when the bloodline, the bloodline right now, I don't care how amazing or how big your stardom is.

Three fold dudes jumping you is three fold dudes jumping. And nobody holds it against you if you lose to three or four humans. Good point. Good point. So that I think I just don't I don't see them giving Bobby an early L. First pay per view. That wouldn't make sense. So, yeah.

Lashley, I guess, is going to find a way. Sorry, Swerve. That's our guy, Swerve. I know, man.

Only AEW got to be here. Thank you, Swerve. Then we got Mercedes Monet against Chris Statlander for that TBS championship. I don't know if you heard her audio king in the back, Mike Del Tufo go, woo, because he nobody loves Mercedes Monet more than Mike Del Tufo.

I'm going to tell you that, bro. Mercedes formerly known as Sasha Banks, bro. I've always been a fan, but I don't know.

Chris Statlander is kind of the whole Statlander thing. It was weird because they made her she was a face and she was super strong. Right. But she suffered some injuries, came back, defeated J cargo, took her undefeated streak, sent her off to another company. So now you're thinking stats made.

They had her lose the TBS championship a little prematurely. Yeah. In my opinion, it happens a lot with a lot. Yeah. I guess that makes sense for that title. Right. But now she sees a face. She turns hail on Willow.

They have a little program. And then just one day she comes out. No, Stokely. Yeah. Her and Stokely were money together, in my opinion. And now she's a baby face again, which is great.

I think it might be her time. Yeah, I know. As far as the character goes, they got her having so many different personalities. You know, I remember she started off, she was like the alien. And I was like, that didn't really that didn't resonate with me.

Yeah, because I know you're not an alien. Right. But now you've got Chris Statlander and they're just betraying her as this powerhouse that she is. And she's money, money, very believable. Banger after banger after banger, especially with Camille out now with a hurt shoulder. She might not be able to help Sasha or Mercedes. I'm sorry.

As much as she could. I'm thinking that Chris Statlander is going to take that title. Yeah. And also, I think Chris is going to take it because it's time. It's time for Mercedes to go after the big the big bell.

Yeah. You know, you got Mariah just bodying everybody. She needs that nemesis, you know, and I think it's time Mercedes got both heels. So we're not sure how that's going to work.

These AEW fans seem like they want to boo Mercedes. So I don't know if turning her face is going to work. I don't know that you want to turn Mariah face at this point. I mean, it might be a situation where it's out of your control. You know, the crowd will handle it for you. I mean, Becky Lynch was supposed to be the heel when she stabbed Charlotte in the back when everybody was so behind Becky that she turned into the man. So I just let it happen, man. But we know what you signed Mercedes for what you brought her in to do.

And it wasn't to hold that title and see her go for the big one. Yeah. And then we got the tag team championships private party taking on the outrunners who, you know, they take me back to eighty five Saturday night. Six oh five WTBS House of Black in the acclaimed. Yeah.

All of them going for that tag team championship. What are your thoughts? Oh, shit. I've always I mean, everybody loves the acclaimed. No, I'm not doing that. I got me. Never mind. I can't cut so much.

You know, I'm trying to stay monetized, but I'm a House of Black type of guy. Yeah. You know, like I've said on Twitter, like I've said on here, that team is so perfectly balanced to just run through the company. I don't know what it is that makes it not happen, but they got the look.

They got the perfect balance as far as athleticism and power. It's just like it's so much money that I feel like is being left on the table and, you know, we'll see what they do. And also, I don't know if I'm ready for private party to lose the titles already. Yeah.

I mean, what a feel good story. Taking out the young bucks when those belts. I'd love to see private party get a long reign. But you know what I said.

But I think maybe you talked me into this a couple of weeks ago. I think House of Black, if not now, when. They're right there.

It's money is sitting on the table. Yeah, they have every reason to be dominant. Yeah, be dominant. And when you see them as a fan, you're like, yeah, I could totally believe that. I totally believe them beating ass all week.

You don't want to run into those cats in an alley or anything. You know what I mean? Like, no. All right. So that's full gear.

Just took a look at that. Now, let's go back over real quick. The women's war game match has fully materialized. And now we know what we're we're getting. We're getting Bianca Belair, Jade Cargill, Naomi, EO and Rhea Ripley. And they're going to take on the two women's champions, Liv Morgan and Ajax.

Raquel Rodriguez, Candace and Tiffany Stratton. What are your thoughts on this? This war games is so stacked is crazy. It's like it really is insane. And when I look at the two that I really am like, they're going to have the spot. Candace and EO, they're going to have there's going to be something where you're like, yeah, maybe they shouldn't have done that.

Like, it's going to be something dangerous getting those two. Every year, EO in the in the game, she's on the top of the cage. She has a trash can on her head. She's doing a moonsault. Every time it happens, I sit there and I pray, please don't happen.

OK, please don't let nothing happen to you. And she hits it. Candice LeRae, I feel like if you've only seen her work in NXT and WWE, you don't really understand it. Candice LeRae used to wrestle men. Candice LeRae, low key, is one of the best female wrestlers on this planet. She just really hadn't gotten her chance to shine. I think it's kind of dope to see her put in this position, especially after losing her tag team partner.

She could have been kind of floating in the air like those, you know, those those blow up dolls outside of gas stations. That could have been her. Shout out to Bailey.

Yeah, the Bailey's buddies. I just should have said that. But yeah, it's cool to see kind of, you know, someone new in that in that main event spot. And, you know, you've got some powerhouses in this match. You've got Nia, you got Raquel, you got Jade, you got Bianca.

Like, I think this is going to be a fun area, of course. Yeah. Powerhouses. So I personally feel like the babyface team is going to take this, but because it seems that way means the hills are probably going to walk out because the hills have the two women's world champions.

That's huge. Yeah. And, you know, it just looks like except for I think three of them, it's just black and go NXT. Black and go NXT and live in effect at war games. Triple H. Love what you're doing.

And then you mentioned them earlier. I have the OG bloodline against the new bloodline. OG bloodline. They went out and made a pretty good recruit and move.

I must say getting big Bronson Reed, who seems like a perfect fit for that team anyway. Yeah. It seems like once you saw it, you're like, yeah, you should be, you know, and now what are the OG is going to do? Seth Rollins has already vehemently said he doesn't want anything to do with Roman Reigns. He doesn't want to help him. He gets taken out by Reed with help from the new bloodline. Does he go back on his word? Does he try to help Roman? Roman calls Wiseman at the end of the episode.

Phones disconnected. What does that mean? Sammy Zayn pulls a phone out of his pocket, throws it on the cart on the couch. I don't know if you saw that. Does that mean something? I don't know. But guess what?

You know what you did? You got me invested. Exactly. So I'm going to keep watching that.

And that's the whole point. I don't know. Who's that fifth guy going to be? Is it going to be Seth? Is he going to go back on his word or is it going to be a certain man with a sword tattoo on his chest? Very good friends with Paul Heyman. Just imagine, just imagine if, if a certain Mr. Lesnar decides that it's time for him to come back, but why again, why would he help Roman in the bloodline? I don't know, but I'm here for it. My mama see this group, Adam Pierce posted on his official Twitter.

By the way, I'm never going to call it X. It's just, it's just weird to say in sentences posted a picture of Heyman and him looking at Brock Lesnar. Really? Yeah. Like just the picture, no caption, just Adam Pierce and Paul Heyman looking at Brock Lesnar, who was laid out on a stretcher. And so, you know, we, we don't know.

What was Brock laid out on the stretch? Well, right. Like when does that happen? But it was on some smack down, but that's what he posted today. So that was today.

That was today, like on my way here. And by the way, you know, you and I touched on this a couple of weeks ago. I know I did at least Adam Pierce, Nick, all this at some point. Let's get it cracking. You got to get crack.

Let's get it cracked. But let me, let me take a moment to talk to Seth Rollins. Seth, what the hell are you talking about? What are you talking about? You have been so aggressive about saying no to joining Roman and that you don't want to be a part of this or help this tyrant win. What do you think made him that way? Seth, what are we talking about? Do, do you not remember a money in the bank where you helped him keep his universal title against edge? What are we talking about? Seth?

You talking, you call him a tyrant. You guys have only seen each other. What? Two, three times. You're not even on the same show.

You weren't affected at all. It's all right, Seth. Okay.

We, the writing's on the wall. Just come on, come on over, help them out at war games. But to act like you have no reason for this guy to turn out the way that he did, it's just insane, man. You can lie to me. You can't lie to you. Thank you, Seth. Sorry, man. I just, I just don't, I don't like, what are we talking like?

What kind of nonsense is this? I mean, Seth did kind of break up the shield. He did kind of strike first. He, he did kind of take Roman's world championship of WrestleMania. He did some things that would make Roman not like him that much and make him want to come and The gaslighting is insane.

But you also got to remember, I don't, Roman Reigns has never pinned Seth Rollins either. Yeah. So there's that. So what are you really mad at? It's like, it's like you get over all the time on them, G. It's like Laker fans, Laker fans, we hate the Sacramento Kings.

Why? Why do we hate them? They've done nothing to me.

Like I'm, I'm beating them all the time. What am I upset about? Just being petty. You're being petty, Seth. Okay.

Now they jumped you. Bet you wish you had some help then. But like, yeah, you, you, it's so the gaslighting is crazy.

You can't mentally abuse somebody and then be like, why are you tripping? Hey, this dude weird. Come on, bro. The writing's on the wall. I really feel like Seth is going to be the fifth member. And then spoiler, what I feel like is going to happen because you know, we're not affiliated with either of these companies.

It's all guessing. What would it be like if after the war games, certain guy comes out, somebody who was upset at bad blood, seeing Roman team up with Cody. Now I see you teaming up with Seth too. So I really think there's a chance that we see the final boss at the end of war games.

Yeah, I would. It's a big four. They need something. Last year you brought CM Punk out. Somebody's got to come out.

Man. You can't top that moment anyway. Like that was an untoppable moment as it does. And you know, even now people are still saying they should have saved them for the rumble. No, the rumble expecting it. You would have been the chatter. The chatter was very low for survivor series, which made it even more special when he came out. What? I mean, just an incredible moment.

Wait, real quick. What's your favorite rumble surprise you ever got where you were like, I don't know if it's my favorite, but because I haven't had a chance to think about it and you just said it. I don't remember the year, but the year Booker T came back out and, and Matt striker literally lost it on air as he's announcing. And he goes, it's a mark out moment, bro.

And I'm marking out that moment right there. Cause Booker T hadn't been seen in dub on WWE TV in years. Also Kevin Nash diesel came back that that rumble. So I not necessarily my all time favorite, but that is definitely on the short list.

I think edge edge for sure. Here's why. Here's why. That was the day Kobe Bryant passed away. Yeah.

Okay. Well I'm in Miami, you know, we, the rich guys and show we're, we're down there for a Superbowl week. We get the call.

We're walking somewhere to get our badges that we need to access different things. When the phone calls start coming in about Kobe and it happened. So that day, that Sunday was just honest to goodness, Laker fan or not just as a human being, that was one of the worst days.

That's one of those days. You'll never, ever, ever forget. So for the Royal rumble that night, we needed, we needed an outlet. We needed something to feel good because man, I'll be honest with you. I like tears, tears flowed that day, man.

And, and these people that lost their lives, that was, that was tough. So the Royal rumble happens in edge coming out was so unbelievable. Cause we didn't know what was going to happen. We thought edge was never going to come back. And when that music hit, man, it was the most joy.

I think any of us had felt in 12 hours for sure. Cause the world was disappointed. And as a wrestling fan, that moment having edge came back, just gave you just like a glimmer of hope that, all right, man, maybe things will be all right. Because this day is awful. And then I'll never forget the look on edges face when he came out and kind of recognize the pop and what, and if you got to go back, go to YouTube, watch that, look at the look on the man's face.

He's, he's stunned. And so I think just basically because of what happened that day, that moment I will always remember because man, we needed that moment on that day. Yeah. I, I was filming a show called swagger, which is a basketball show.

Okay. And I, it was in January. So just a couple of days before I was telling everybody about Kobe scoring 81 points.

And so I being completely surrounded with basketball for the show, I'm bringing up Kobe all the time and everybody's just like, Oh my God, here he goes again. And it was our last rehearsal before our first day of work on the show. And I, I went to the car. I, as soon as I touched the door handle, the entire crew ran out after me.

And everybody like just looks like they, they saw a ghost, you know, it was just like, there's a, there's an eerie look in everybody's face. And the first ad was a guy named Austin. He was on a phone call and he goes, are you sure? Are you sure? My first words were, is it about the Lakers?

Cause we had just got Bron and AD and I'm thinking somebody hurt. And then he said is worse. And so now I'm scared because I think it's about my dad. So I take my phone out and I got like 30 or something texts. Oh, so I'm like, dude, something happened to my dad. And so I scroll and he's one of the texts. So I'm like, all right, that's cool.

And at the bottom, it was confirmed, you know, the helicopter crash. And I was so it takes a special person to affect me the way that that did, you know, and he's not my, like, he felt like a member of my family, you know, and went to the hotel. Saw my girlfriend at the time. She sucks now, but like at the time she was cool and yeah, just broke down and cried for hours. You know, my buddies over at ESPN, Steve Mason, John Ireland, they called me, had me talk on the radio while I'm crying about Kobe and yeah, just put on wrestling just because like it's the rumble.

I'm not going to miss the rumble. And when I heard you think, you know, me, my initial reaction was no, it was just a feeling that I needed so bad. And so I think that on top of how much we love edge, Adam Copeland, everything that he's been through that on top of the fact that emotionally I needed it. Yeah. It's my favorite one of all time.

And I don't think it'll ever be topped. Yeah. Like I said, that moment was like, it was super necessary because that was a dark, dark day, man. And yeah, edge edge came through. They, the whole WWE came through because it was, I know I needed it. And I wasn't that big of a, obviously a Laker fan, therefore not that big of a Kobe basketball Laker fan, but as a, just as a human being, as a, as a man, as you know, like, yeah, man, that, that hurt. It hurt. So yeah, edge coming out was it. Yeah, dude.

And that was the sad moment on no contest wrestling. This is our third week giving you one. So, you know, Shane, you know, one thing that we've done and I'm going to give you full credit for this, you know, you and I, we didn't really sit down a lot, talk a lot about what we want to do with this podcast. It was like, we had a few chats. I think we were on the same page just like instantly during the week.

We might chop it up, you know, we'll text each other once or twice, but like we're pretty much on the same page. So let me give you full credit. Our first show, you said, Hey, I want to ask this question. And you said the question. And it was very similar to a question that I planned on asking.

And I was like, nah, actually I like that. Let's, let's roll with that. And that question has become a staple with us. And that is 50 guys in the bar. You have to fight your way out. You need four other people to help you get out that bar that has been our signature question on this podcast.

No one's juicy. Yeah. Right.

No, we don't have a guest today. Yeah. So I think you have to do what's right. And we have to ask each other.

Yeah. So I'm going to start with you, Shane Jackson, Jr. You're at a bar. You're in the great one eight. You're in the Valley.

You're in Tarzana, sermon Oaks, the mean streets of studio city. And you're at a bar and there's 50 cats in there that don't like you because you're a nepo baby. Yeah. That's right. Apple babies up. Nope. But you know, they don't like you know what I'm saying?

Because you're wearing your sunglasses at night. You know, you need four wrestlers to help get you to the whip. Who are your four that you're picking? And I'm gonna make this easy. We could go all time. I don't necessarily want to do that. I think let's save that for another time. This is a four active participants in the world of professional wrestling right now, right now, because I, for sure was about to take TNA Kurt.

I know TNA Kurt angle. Oh, I'm not going to say his nickname. That's rude. But all right. All right.

Active right now. I for sure got to take Jacob. Okay. I'm Jacob. You gotta roll with me, bro. Um, I see. So Jacob, for sure.

He got to come. Um, Oh my God. I feel like I'm not thinking of somebody. Of course. This is tough.

It's just how it is. The, uh, Oh, I got to take Bron breaker. Okay. I just, I'm starting to feel safe. Um, let me see somebody on the other side.

Samoa Joe. Okay. For sure. Right now we got a lot of mass. All right.

We got a lot of mass. Um, last one. Ooh, I know. I know guys. I'm taking a long time, but shut up, dude. All right. I got to think about this.

This has to be, this has to be a good one. Um, I don't want to put Roman in that situation, bro. He's busy.

He's got things to do at the bar. Yeah. Oh, I'll take a, I'll take a, Oh, wait, this sucks, dude. I don't like this. This is just the pressure. I put on pressure.

This is garbage. I'm feeling the pressure. Cause I don't want you to take one of the three.

I got like, you know, my man Stroman going through it with his knees. I don't want to, I don't want to put him in that situation either. Okay.

Uh, I guess. All right. I'm gonna take Bronson. I'm gonna take bronze. I'm gonna just fill out the mass. I feel like right there alone.

I could get into any building in the world. You know, we'll be fine. Okay. All right. You know, what about you, man?

Damn. Ask me the question so we can cut this problem. Let me know, TJ, let me know is 50 dudes.

They tired of all your clipperdom and all the nonsense that you spew about the Cowboys and they want to, they, they, they they're threatening you. Okay. You need four current wrestlers to get you to the car to get me to the car.

We need to get to the car. Okay. Who that is. I'm the pick guys who I, all right. I just wrote one down. I think he may have been, no, I don't think any of these have been mentioned so far. Okay.

All right. So I'm going to pick these guys just based upon the fact that they haven't been mentioned. Um, I'm going to take Alistair black solid. If you know anything about him, the Muay Thai background, just go watch some videos of him striking the man's legit real deal. He's no joke. He's helping me get out that bar.

Um, okay. This guy just got released, but what I don't think his former employer did was really let people know how dangerous he was with his hands. Former gold gloves boxer, a guy who was on the offensive line for NFL teams. And I know a guy who played with him and then said, this guy was someone, nobody wanted work with Baron Corbin. Oh my God. My dog. I've been a Baron court.

You can go back and look at my Twitter. I've been a Baron Corbin fan from day one. First of all, end of days, quite possibly top five finishers of all time.

I've only seen it get kicked out of one time. Just a beautiful finisher. He would put on, you know, 350 pound bull Dempsey or he put it on Becky Lynch.

Beautiful finisher. Uh, like I said, unfortunately he's in between jobs right now. Whatever he does, he's going to be all right. So Alistair black Baron Corbin again, I'm trying to name people who haven't been, I, you know what? I need a guy who's going to really just clear out a volume of people. So I'm going to take powerhouse Hobbs. Yeah. Will Hobbs may W I'm going to take him because, uh, Hobbs just looks like he's with it.

Something about powerhouse Hobbs tells me he's down with it and uh, yeah, so I would like, I'd like to have him and then who else? I need one more. This is so tough. Like I said, I'm trying to like reach for someone who hasn't already been said. Hmm. Oh, this is tough.

Yeah. That last spot, you know, honorable mention that my man, the, the indestructible man, Darby Allen, cause he would just throw his body at everybody and tell us save yourself. So I got Alistair black. I got Baron Corbin.

I got powerhouse Hobbs. I got me and uh, you know, just because he hasn't been named and just because despite the fact that he's a nice guy and he's friendly and he's doing comedy bits, I know he's got a legit wrestling background. And with a man of his size, he's going to tear some people up. I'm gonna go with my man Otis. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

I'm gonna go with Otis. That's that's mass. That's mass.

I'm just thinking that's heavy machinery. So yeah, black Corbin Hobbs, me. Yeah. Oh, this, like I said, a couple of guys who had it to muscle Champa get down to right.

What do you do? Absolutely. Oh, you know what? There's another guy, you know what? No disrespect though. This I'm gonna take Otis out, but not because I don't think he's worthy. There was another guy who I feel does get down carrying cross. He's the guy.

So with all apologies to Otis, you're still my man, black Hobbs cross me. Get into the car. Get into the car.

You get into the car. That's what, that's what's important. Corbin. I forgot to mention Corbin.

Oh, I will say this before we let y'all go. The one flaw I've always had with Baron Corbin, Kansas City Chiefs fan. Disgusting.

Well, he played. Disgusting. Disgusting. I don't give a damn. I don't care if your dad owned the team. Disgusting.

Disgusting, bro. I hate the Chiefs. Well, you're a Raiders fan, so that. Hold on, hold on. I was, I come from a Raider family.

I have black and silver in my heart and on your jacket, but I am a Los Angeles Rams fan. Okay. My bad. I forgot all things. I knew better than that.

All day, all day left California. All right. I'm sorry.

Y'all ain't been good since the logo had both eyes and they never did. That's something I want to, you know, we're getting a lot of things, a lot of things I want to get into on this podcast, you know, and like I said, we're big on lists. We want to bring you like our top tag team lists, our top football players turned wrestlers list, our top female wrestlers list, you know, our top barefoot wrestlers list or top wrestlers with masks or top wrestlers with face paint. I feel like all that's going to come from this podcast.

And of course, some of the best guests that we could possibly bring to you. And remember, you can always follow us on Instagram. There's no contest on Twitter or the, the X thing that he refuses to call it, you know, not me, not you, not my marriage. So you find is that there's no contest. You can find as a no contest wrestling podcast. You'll find us on the rich eyes and show YouTube channel. And I think I may have switched it to there's no contest is Twitter. Okay. No contest wrestling podcast.

Instagram. What is this riddle, bro? I don't know what's going on. Speaking of riddle. Oh yeah.

Yeah. We got, we got some fillers out for riddle. Hopefully one day soon, you'll see him sitting in there with us along with a lot of people. We've got a lot of feelers out folks. And a lot of people have reached out to us. We've reached out to a few, just trying to get everything put together, but yeah, we're going to continue to bring you some, some great guests. And by the way, if anyone out there is watching and you represent some of the old school wrestlers, like those are guys I grew up with, I want to talk to like who represents the magnificent Morocco. I want to talk to them.

The rock and roll express. I want to talk to them. You know, wrestlers like that old school NWA type WCW type guys. If you're out there and you're interested, hit us up on one of those social media platforms, man. We'd love to chop it up with, you know, I want where's, where's the camera, right? I want Mick Foley. I want Mick Foley. I want to sit, talk, laugh, chop it up with Mick Foley.

That is right now. It is my dream episode. Yes, we will get, you know, the, the big current people, of course, but Mick Foley, it would be an honor. I got to get Mick Foley and I will get Mick. Oh, don't you mean we will get Mick Foley?

Cause like I'm here too. Oh, we wrestling bro. All right. That was a promo.

I'm sorry. We can't do a handicap, but yeah, Mick Foley will be huge. Huge.

No doubt. I want to give a shout out to my man. You see him on my t-shirt right now.

Let me move this out the way a little bit. He touched the mic. That's me and Shinsuke Nakamura.

This was from 2015. I flew to Coney Island, New York to watch a ring of honor show at a minor league baseball field because Nakamura came ROH and new Japan did a thing. And like I said, I'm a huge Nakamura fan. He just made his, he made his return. Looks like he's going to be challenging LA night for that United States championship. Look, no disrespect to anybody, but I'm going to root for Nakamura against pretty much anyone, other wrestler on the planet. Cause I love the dude. That's my guy, but I'm happy to see him back.

And hopefully, you know, they can, you know, make something good happen. My boy looking like a Sith Lord in there. I just don't change the music. Like when he made the heel turn, they switched the lyrics to the music. It didn't, the crowd needed that. They didn't want the crowd sing song in the long.

So they switched up because they wanted him to be messing with good thing. Now you gave it to Seth. Well, we got anything else?

I think that's it. Ladies and gentlemen, we'd like to thank our guest, John Cena for coming with us today. This is the no contest wrestling podcast. We will be back next week. Every Wednesday, you know, where to find us, wherever you listen to podcasts. And of course here on the tube. See you later. Hey, remember same bat time, same bat channel.

Hey, it's Rich Eisen here. Join me and my compadre Chris Brockman every Monday on the overreaction Monday podcast, which Jamis has taken the Brown's to the playoffs, dude. Why can't they win seven, eight games to finish the year? Why not? I'm not saying it's no, why not? But this is a definitive statement. That's clearly an overreaction and it's perfect fodder for a show like this one. I appreciate you coming out of the gate hot come react or overreact with us overreaction Monday, wherever you listen, it's game over, over, man.
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