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It streams for two hours right after that, right here on the Roku Channel. Kyle Brandt kicking off hour number two. Good to see you, sir. Hey, what's up brother? Good to see you, man. Great to be here. I love being here.
I remember last time was my first time, and I will stand by my statement. It feels like Jim Irsay's basement. There's just so much cool stuff and memorabilia. I walk the halls when I'm waiting to come on. And if anybody doesn't know, so there's all these pictures that go on and on. It's guests over the years you've had in this chair and others. And I was trying to pick my favorite picture in the hallway. It is?
And I have the clubhouse leader, and it's someone who doesn't do a ton of media and who's been around for decades. It's you and Jodie Foster. And I was like, wow, Jodie Foster was on the show. I missed that one. She was here, what do you remember about it?
Everything. Talking about that, that's right. Talking about her fantasy football team. She plays fantasy? And she's a Packers fan. What? She loves Devante Adams?
It was, I think Jodie Nelson was on one of her fantasy teams back in the day. Yeah. Oh my gosh. How about that? So, Clarice Starley is sitting here saying, well, should I start Greg Jennings? I don't know. He's tough against the Vikings. That's, see, this is what I'm talking about.
It's really cool hanging here. Yeah, I think she was saying she was thinking of starting Jermichael Finley. Yeah, totally.
But she knew he and Rogers weren't vibing. We all had Jermichael Finley back in the day, right? Everybody that was on every fantasy team.
You go to that tight end waiver wire, you pick up Jermichael for the bye week. Exactly. You know what I'm saying?
I get it completely. You know, and now you want a lion. That's for sure.
Damn right you do. Best team in the NFL through 11 weeks, Detroit Lions. Yeah. I saw something that just, there's so many nuggets floating around about the Lions.
You get lost in the numbers. Yeah. The disparity in yardage with them yesterday in the Jaguars was north of 400 yards. Yes. It was the largest disparity in a game since the 1970s.
I think it was 1979. That's correct. I've got the stat right here. Is that right? Because we have the same research staff. That's right, we do. These 645 to 170 was the Delta in total yardage.
1979, the year I was born. And there has never been a bigger ass whooping in the entire NFL than the one we saw yesterday. And you know, I was talking about this when I was with you guys. I was talking about it with Kurt Warner. And Kurt's just, what do you like about this team?
They're so likable, just top to bottom. If you're not from Detroit, if you don't have a horse in the race, they pass the Jersey test, which means if you go to center field in the middle of the game and look around the stands, most teams have two or three jerseys that people buy. I think the Lions have eight.
You'll see Penne Sewell jerseys, offensive lineman jerseys. And I've been doing this for long enough, Rich, and I know you have too, that I remember it wasn't that long ago where there was a real groundswell of support to say, enough with the Lions on Thanksgiving. End this tradition. They suck, they're always terrible.
We should end it now. It's gone from we have to watch the Lions on Thanksgiving to we get to watch them. It's good.
The Lions' inability to be competitive on Thanksgiving, I believe, is what borne out a third Thanksgiving game. Really? Yes. That makes sense. That there, it was enough's enough. I definitely, I know some television executives who are like, this is beachfront property. Why should we grant it to them?
Because they had it when Herbert Hoover was president. You know what I mean? Like, and so that was the conversation. And now, you know, your Bears are going to be coming in on that Thanksgiving and they're going to be holding on for dear life.
You've got to assume the crash position when you take on the Lions, because invariably as well, they beat you up so significantly, you're going to lose the next week too. I know. I mean, it's been borne out. It's incredible.
So far this season. It has been borne out and it will continue to be. I'm blown away by the theory of the third Thanksgiving game because of how bad the Lions were.
I believe it was. Rich, I'm in. Obviously, you know, when money's on the table, now there's two Netflix games on Christmas day and we're going to be seeing more and more games added internationally to maybe create a package there.
I believe the third Thanksgiving night game was born out of like, let's create another one because the first one is just basically year in and year out, mostly unwatchable. And then we'll see who the Cowboys can bring in and jump into the kettlebell. Sure. And so that's basically it, you know. Totally sets up.
I buy it. It's someone said, guys, the Lions are starting David Blough at quarterback on Thanksgiving. We got to get, I remember the Mike McMahon years. It's always terrible, but now it's like, can't wait to get to Thanksgiving Lions.
Amazing. And you know, Dan Campbell doesn't have a vast history with the Lions. It does appear that they are balling up all of those years and just thrown it right back at the rest of the league.
I know. But joking in hour one, like which governor is going to come out of the blue and call him classless for beating up on him? Like is it DeSantis because he beat up on a team from Florida?
I don't know. I mean, it's crazy what is going on right now with the Lions. They are the clear class of the NFL as we speak. I've got Kyle Brandt here on the Rich Eisen Show. We have not touched this subject yet, figuring you'd be the perfect guy to deal with.
Your two cents with the Bears on Sunday against the Packers is what? I mean, Rich, this is like you have Mary Todd Lincoln the morning after the play. I mean, you know, I mean, let me get comfortable. How was the play, Mrs. Lincoln? Well, it wasn't great if any of you ask. All right, so emotional game.
Just before you get into that, I've never had a guest compare him or herself to Mary Todd Lincoln before. Sally Field plays me in the movie, guys. That's it, should have won the Oscar. Emotional game for the fans, and I mean football, not even what happened yesterday. When you see a blocked field goal in that situation, in that context, you have to have a human emotion. Anger, surprise, joy, whatever it may be. I promise you, Rich, I promise you, when that kick was blocked, I had zero human reaction whatsoever.
I'm sitting here and here they go and the snap is down and they miss the kick and it's blocked and the Packers win. I didn't even bump my heart rate. You talk about Jodie Foster.
Remember Dr. Chilton in Silence of the Lambs was talking about Hannibal Lecter. He goes, his pulse never got above 85 even when he ate her tongue. My pulse never even hit 75 when they blocked the field goal. It was this terrible, terrible feeling of having no feelings.
That's what they've done to anybody connected to the Bears right now. It's sociopathic status where I wasn't even mad. I'm tired of being mad. I've run them disappointment, anger, fear, shock. It was just, you're completely unimpressed and then you'll just go on to the next game. It was tough, really tough. Well, I have some numbers here.
What do you got? No, I have some numbers here that I think can give you a little, I mean, there was a bump. I mean, like it did, it wasn't as bad as the previous weeks. I mean, the Bears, obviously, they scored a touchdown. They converted nine of 16 third downs. They were six of 40 in the previous three games in that regard.
Caleb was hitting his back foot finding people. He had a career high in rushing yards. His third career game with 300 or more total yards, most by Bears rookie since in the Super Bowl era.
What else can I give you? Do you have the one where they lose 11 in a row to the Packers? Is that number on the board?
No, no, that's on here. The Matt Leflore has never lost to the Packers. You know, what you illustrate with those points, Rich, is that the Bears had the team to beat the Packers yesterday. They had the quarterback to beat the Packers. I don't think they had the guts to beat the Packers at the end of the game. And I hate the final sequence.
And you know what? Bears fans may not have feelings, but they do have a memory. They didn't lose to Jayden Daniels and the commanders because of the Hail Mary. They lost to Jayden Daniels and the commanders on the Hail Mary, the play before, the play that set up the Hail Mary in which they didn't call a timeout, didn't get ready. They moved the ball up, Jayden Daniels chucks it. I hate the final sequence of the game yesterday for the Bears. If you want to get into the details, Caleb has the hottest hand he has had in his young career.
His confidence is surging. They get a last completion of Keenan Allen. They hand it to Rashawn Johnson. They're on about the 30 yard line with 30 seconds left in a timeout. And they let the clock tick all the way down because they were happy with a 46 yarder, which was then blocked. There are players on the Packers, on the Packers field goal block team who said, we're actually expecting them to run another play. We had seen that Kairos Santos was kicking it. They all saw it. I don't think they played to win at the end of that game.
And I will give you an example of what they should have done. Bills chiefs, Sean McDermott bleeping went for it yesterday and they had a fourth and two and they could have gone up by five points to take the field goal. He said, no, this is the chiefs. They're in our building.
I'm going to beat them right now. And I don't think the Bears sideline did that with the Packers and their building. Well, Eberfluss had this to say, figured that you might bring this up and we'd have this soundbite in the chute. This is what he had to say about his decision to just leave it where it was and let the time tick down for the fateful field goal attempt. You know, they were loading the box there, you know, so you could say you could do that for sure. Maybe get a couple more yards, but you all score a risk, you know, fumbling and different things there. We felt where we were, you know, if we have to 36 or 35, you know, you're definitely doing that because you want to get an inside there.
I felt very confident where we were at that time with the wind and where we were on the field. Great. This nonsense, I'm not here for it today, Rich.
And you and I usually in lockstep, I don't do the kind of media where I say, fire this man. I hate that stuff. It's just not where I live.
It's not my thing. Because you know the National Football League and you know there's, you know, families involved and stuff like that. So it's tough to start pounding him. Exactly.
And I've met him and I like him and he's a good person. At that point, you're telling me they're loading the box. Well, then throw. Caleb's on fire right now. Throw. You have time. You have a timeout. It just felt this feeling of, I think we're good here.
I don't want to do anything more. Let's just kick. And I don't think that's the way to beat any team, let alone a team that beats you every single year. You got to snap the neck and they just didn't.
I've never seen a team real from a Hail Mary quite like this one. I know. You know what I mean? And like, I think that's what it is. You feel snake bit. You feel like you got your hands on 10 and two and a foot on a break.
Yes. They were a four and two team. And then they were cruising and Caleb was on fire. I can't believe that I called their last win to date. Jacksonville.
In London. Yeah. And they looked great.
They did. Oh my gosh. I know. I mean, Caleb was throwing pearls.
He looked awesome. And they haven't won since. That's unbelievable.
I know. If going down the elevator told Kurt Warner or anyone else when we're hanging out afterwards that, hey, we just called their last win for at least a month. And they're going to fire their offensive coordinator. And then one of their losses is going to be a Hail Mary. And another one's going to be with a blocked field goal.
That's that. Imagine if you had told Kurt, see that number 29 down there, that backup for the defensive back? Tyreek Stevens is going to be a household name. Like, everybody knows who that guy is now.
And they always will. Or in Munich, when we're in Munich talking to the Carolina Panthers about what was happening with the Panthers, that a week later, the care of Caleb Williams would be placed in the hands of a man who was the offensive coordinator for this whole thing the previous year. Right. Like the one who got them the guy.
That they were going to audible to Thomas Brown. I know. But at least, again, it did look better. And then I don't know if this is going to be helpful. I have an old gen stat right here. Not next gen, old gen. Oh, these are old gen stats right here. Go ahead and hit it. Let me see.
Old gen stats. Oh, great. I love this.
Yeah, we've got animation and pencils and all set up. The blocked field goal that cost the game for the Bears, it was the first and only blocked field goal by the Packers of a potential game-tying or game-winning field goal on the final play of the game since November 26, 1939 against the Cleveland Rams. 39. That's the last time it happened.
Those are the kind of things that are happening right now. The 30s. And that's our old gen stat.
Beautiful. We're on the Rich Eisen show. Oh, closing animation as well. Old gen stats. Window dressing. We have an old gentleman voice in it. It's everything.
Dirty baseball. It's all good. Yeah. Does that make you feel any better that it's the first time? Oh, I feel totally better. Yeah, that's completely cleared it up.
These are things that just happened once in centuries. But I appreciate you reaching for some sort of positivity. The positivity for the Bears might be, and I mean this, they're very good against the Lions. And that includes the Dan Campbell Lions. They smacked them last year with Justin Fields. They don't usually play as well as they do against the Lions.
They have, I don't want to say they have their number, but they have a chance against them. And Caleb looked good. So that's what we're doing. All right, Kyle Brandt here on the Rich Eisen Show again.
Good morning football on NFL Network, 8 AM to 10 AM Eastern every single morning, and then GMFB overtime right here on the Roku channel. So let's do this with levels of concern. All right.
Let's go. Kyle Brandt's levels of concern. Let's start with, again, you just tell me how, I don't have numbers or Def Con.
It's not like WarGames or anything like that. But levels of concern. Your concern level for the San Francisco 49ers is what?
It's pretty high. Yesterday was a big, big day for them. And that Gino Hero ball touched on at the end.
It's just, it feels like one step forward, two steps back every time. I keep waiting for the 49ers to do the Undertaker gift where they sit up. And the NFC should have kept them down while McCaffrey was out. They should have eliminated them. But Kittles out yesterday, Ayuga out permanently. They finally get McCaffrey back. And it just feels sometimes with these seasons, these Shanahan teams sometimes have the just the snake bit in years where it's like, we just can't get it together. I thought yesterday was going to begin the run. And I still won't count them out.
But I thought it was a horrible loss yesterday in which they played really ugly and blew it at the end. Yeah, Nick Bosa looks like he's got something that's not just going to be a week-to-week thing too. Yeah. He definitely is an oblique or a hip or something like that. He couldn't get out there. And you know he's going to get out there if he can. I know he was really happy a couple weeks ago off the field. He looks miserable right now. I know that.
So better times, Nick. He needs to make his oblique great again. Maybe you should. I don't know if it's going to happen. That's one of those things, again, it's not like you put it in a sling and then all of a sudden you can come back.
No. But the Niners, I don't know if like, so this is something I'm sure you guys talked about. The Niners might qualify for my favorite type of team this season as we come down the stretch. I love the come running teams. The teams that are kind of middling, can't figure it out, 500, five and six, and just go on a tear down the stretch.
Now they don't always get in because they lost too many games to September. But there's potential come running factor with the 49ers if they win next week. But there's some come running favors. There's guys, there's Colts, there's the Dolphins. And it's used to always, the Phil Rivers Chargers teams used to always be come running. And they would always be like a game short. But it's so exciting because they're playing the best football late. They just don't have the best record.
There's some teams that are sniffing around for that too. What's your level of concern for the Bengals right now at four and seven? I adored this Bengals team. They're so fun.
Me too, I thought. They're so fun. I can't quit them.
I know. I don't know why I can't quit them. You know what we did this morning on Good Morning Football, we did the TNT treatment where I finally had to say they're gone fishing.
And we got burrowed with the fishing net and the fishing hook. I gotta let them go. They're four and seven, they've lost three of four. They're so fun and so lovable and they're so exciting, but they almost never win. They have a feeling to me that they're like a basketball team. And I think Collinsworth was on it last night where he's like, this team's at its best and it just starts jacking up threes.
You know, just start chucking it left and right. And they usually don't win, but they are one of the most fun, bad teams I have ever seen. And I want Joe Burrow in the playoffs. I say this all the time. It's a better playoffs as Burrow is in because he's the only guy alive who's still beating Mahomes in a playoff game outside of Tom Brady. And they're just not, we have to let them go. Four and seven is, we can't follow them to four and seven. I was watching the game with my two boys and as they showed Burrow trudging off the field, I'm like, there goes the greatest four and seven quarterback ever.
So true. You know what I mean? And I heard what Collinsworth was saying. When they go five wide, he goes, this is when they're at their best. You know, like what are they screwing around with any other, you know, formations?
Just go five wide and let Joe Burrow do his thing. And you look at their schedule, the rest of the way they've got to, you figure they've got to run the table. Six and oh, they got to go six and oh. And so they're going on a buy. Let's do this. They're going on a buy, home for Pittsburgh.
And I'll like it. No, hold on a second. At Dallas, at Tennessee.
Yeah. Okay, home for Cleveland. Denver, you know, that could be one of those games that it's for the tie break for the, at the end of the day and then at Pittsburgh. Yeah, I mean, they got to go six and oh there, right? They can't go five and one and stroll in nine and eight.
Right, even if they have the tie break on Denver. I think you got to get to 10 and seven. Don't you think? They're four and seven. They got to get there.
It doesn't make sense either, Rich. It's not just for the usual thing. So there's a lot of teams that have talent, but they're four and seven. Joe Burrow leads the NFL in touchdown passes. Jamar Chase leads the NFL in receiving yards. And it's not just, oh, their offense is great. They have the NFL sack leader.
Trey Hendrickson leads the NFL in sacks. It doesn't make sense. And yet there they are, four wins in 11 games. I can't, I can't, I can't follow you that far. I'd love to.
It's more fun than them getting in the playoffs than somebody who might, but I don't think it's going to happen. I'm sorry. What's your level of concern?
I'm going to go higher rent. Seven and four Washington commanders. Once upon a time, seven and two. Jayden Daniels, you know, he's putting that heat pack on his stomach. I know. The, would that be a good fantasy team name, TJ? Daniels' tummy, tummy packet. Are you in the box, TJ? You all like it? What do you think? It's all right, passable.
He's just saying, he's just trying to be nice. That's okay. I like Jim Mercy's basement better. Jim Mercy's basement?
That's the name of the league that I play in, Jim Mercy's basement. It's all good. No, it should be though. That's very good. Do you have a level of concern for the Washington commanders?
Seven and four. I'm concerned for him. He doesn't look like him. He doesn't look like him anymore. He doesn't look like him at all. He does, he barely runs. He doesn't throw as accurately. I think something happened to his ribs and I just don't know if he's the same now.
Maybe he will be after this. And you know what? Do we think the commanders are going to win the Super Bowl this year? No, I look at them a lot like I look at the Broncos. So the Broncos get a great win.
Yes, it looked awesome. The prior two weeks, they had the heartbreaker against Kansas City. They lose to Baltimore. So fine, they lost to some great teams in the AFC with some great quarterbacks.
That doesn't mean I want to throw you on the scrap heap. I think still they're going to go to the playoffs. I don't think Washington's going to win the Super Bowl this year. I doubt they'll win a playoff game, but I think they'll be there. And it's a credit to them that we're even talking about them potentially losing in the first round of the playoffs and that being some kind of letdown. So concern that they're going to go to the divisional and probably yes, highly concerned, but I still think they'll go to the playoffs.
Okay, so let's go even higher rent. Eight and two Vikings. Do you have a level of concern about them? Yeah, they just, they have that feeling of, man, we peaked really early. I hate to say it. And in the standings, they were the best story of the first month of the season. I don't think it was close. I think the last month from where we are now, it's been the Steelers, but September it was astonishing.
The Darnell and the KOC, it was amazing. And now they still win and their record is good, but do you like them better than the Lions? Of course not. I don't like them better than the Packers, we'll see. I don't like them better than Philadelphia. I think that the problem with Vikings is they set our expectations so high that this could be the story of the year. And if you compare them to some of these NFC teams right now, they just don't pass the look test. Level of concern, Vikings pretty high. So who's going to wind up being, TJ, I'd like you to chime in here, the proverbial NFC team nobody's going to want to face. The Packers turned out to be that team. Yeah.
And it would have been amazing to have called your Packers shot in between weeks 11 and 12 last year. So I understand what I'm asking right now. You're shaking your head. You don't think there is one? It's got to come from the NFC West.
How does that sound? Is there anyone that really, I mean, I guess the Niners maybe, but are they scaring them? What about the Rams? You know, you don't believe in them.
Are they really just going to help with the definition of never wants to scare you? So we're not talking about the Lions. What are we talking about? The proverbial team in that first round of the playoffs, you just don't want to face. You don't want them, you don't want them. You don't want to draw them. Dallas drew the wrong one last year.
Look what happened. They're all in to all the way to today. I got one.
What do you got? The Cardinals. It's the Cardinals. Okay. I love the Cardinals.
And the origin story here, I know a lot of people love them now. Last year is a four win team. All right. It's sleepy little market.
No one's interested. A head coach who's meme to be Jesus and a quarterback where everybody makes fun of. They only won four games. Those four games were bad-ass. They beat the hell out of the Cowboys. They beat the Steelers.
And then this year they come out and they had a couple of games everybody wrote them off. When I knew they was big time and I was on this, I said, when we're going into the Cardinals dolphins game, it is the same weekend that the call of duty video game comes out. It comes out two days prior.
All right. It comes out on Thursday. The game is Sunday. That is the call of duty bowl for Kyler Murray against the dolphins. If he plays terrible in that game, they're going to eat him alive.
I bet you he'll be majestic. And he was incredible. If he can beat call of duty, he can beat somebody in the wild card round. So now are you saying that he beat the fact that he would have been consumed? Some of his prep time was consumed by call of duty?
Yes, he would have been. I did a 72 hour binge on call of duty. I have no idea what the dolphins are doing defensively.
I'm totally lost. Rich in that game, he was so dialed in. The dolphins defenders were like, wow, Kyler's here. And I am a huge Kyler Murray supporter in 2024 because we've done every single video game joke, every study clause, every he's short joke. I just am over it.
I think it's not funny anymore. So I'm rooting for him. And I do not want to tackle James Connor in the wild card round.
And I don't want to have to contain Kyler. That's the team. Except that if the playoffs started today, it's Green Bay at Arizona. Green Bay is my team. You don't want to play in the playoffs.
You like them? Again. They almost lost to the Bears yesterday.
Do you understand that? The Bears, I don't think Green Bay's playing that well. This is when Green Bay started putting the pedal to the metal last year. Yeah. You know. Josh Jacobs runs hard.
They have four good receivers. You like what you're seeing from Love? It's weird. It's sloppy. It's wonky.
It's farvian, which was always fun. All right, but Favre's winning MVP is doing it though. I don't know. He doesn't have the same, he's not under the radar like he was last year. He's also this not emerging star.
Now he is the star. I'm not afraid of the Packers right now. And I think it's because they almost lost to the Bears.
And that's a terrible currency. All right. Last one for you, Kyle Brandt. How about this one? Best team Josh Allen's ever had.
The current 2024 Buffalo Bills. Yay or nay? Nay.
Why? It doesn't matter. The other ones had the stars on them.
The other ones. It's the best record he's had. I understand that. Yeah, so I. But this is a team, man. This is a team. Like if James Cook isn't gonna be running between the tackles, let's get Ray Davis. If we're not gonna have Keon Coleman.
Go on Ritz, go on. Or we don't have Staphon Diggs here. We don't have Dalton Kincaid. It's gonna be Khalil Shakir moving the sticks.
Okay? We're gonna get Dawson. It's gonna be the Dawson Knox, you know, reclamation weekend, you know. Shoeless Mac Hollins. You know what I mean? Shoeless Mac Hollins, you know, like. It doesn't matter that no Poy or no Trey White.
Didn't work with them. They got a game from Vaughn yesterday, you know? Let's do it.
Every now and then you might get a Vaughn game. Best team Josh Allen has ever had. The current 2024 Buffalo Bills. I now took one last hack at it. Not saying that you have to change your answer, but what?
What do you think? I still think that team in overtime at Arrowhead with Simms sitting on the bench and losing the coin talk. I think that was a runaway Super Bowl champion. I love that team. Listen, I really respect this team.
It's a very compelling case you just laid out too. And there's this sense of screw it. Josh Allen's gonna do it himself. I don't think it's the best team they've ever had.
I think it's the best record they've ever had. And my take larger today, Rich, about the Bills is don't pretend like yesterday was a huge deal. Don't make it a bigger deal than it was. Well, Josh did not.
I love it. I know, I did too. He kind of totally downplayed it. Refuses to give it any credit. Just another game in the schedule. Even the McDermott saying there was not a statement game.
There's no parade today. Josh Allen has beaten Patrick Mahomes four times. He does it pretty much every year. So don't act like we have to do backflips now because we beat the Mahomes team.
Just business as usual. I loved Josh Allen after the game, Tracy Wolfson. And I know it gets a little exhausting because from Josh you want a little more of a human reaction.
Did you see him in the end zone? He's a complete maniac. That's his human reaction. But the fact that he has this way to come down and say not really that impressed with ourselves, we'll see them again, I would take the cue from him.
That was so professional and so cool. But the sense again that in the same way that we're thinking the Chiefs are and all that because they're so lucky and they're gonna have to, how long can they keep pulling it out of their orifice? And so the general sense is that for the Bills in this regard is when the playoffs hit, the fact that they don't have those star players and those big name, bold face, pro bowl, sure fire players, it's gonna haunt them. Against a Ravens team that's already beaten them, it'll haunt them. Against a Steelers team that they're gonna end up having to see potentially, right? It'll haunt them.
And I don't know, man. Like there's a beauty in the sum of the parts that's going on right now. And they have the one huge part in Josh Allen. That's why I'm asking, best team he's ever had.
If I'm gonna make the case and help you make the case and if I would come over, I think it's because Josh Allen's the best place he's ever been between the ears. I don't think he's ever been happier. Now I'm talking about his team, his huddle, his roster, from everything I understand it, but his personal life is going swimmingly and God bless him for that. But the Steph Diggs thing wasn't really a start to finish thing.
That was a playoff thing. Diggs would lose his mind sometimes in the playoffs. He would not perform well. He'd do the sideline history on us.
He'd do all of that. And Josh would constantly be asked about it. And I think that he was very happy to have him leave. Not because of the season, they had great memories. And Steph Diggs with a great Buffalo Bill. It would always be something in the playoffs. So when you watch his body language and him before games, during games, I think Allen has never been lighter and happier. And that would be the case is that he could do it because of how good he feels. Yeah, the play caller, everything. And he did say afterwards, multiple times, there's a lot of love in the locker room. And I believe it. You know, and they're not going through, you know, knock on wood, crazy stuff. Yeah, I remember.
Where there's snow storms and all this crazy stuff. Right. And the coach is now being praised for his button pushing. I know. McDermott was awesome yesterday. That's what I'm saying.
Awesome, awesome. And you know, he's not Belichick's little brother. There's none of that going on. It's just a matter of, did they run into one of these AFC juggernauts who they're always there and they couldn't handle Pittsburgh or they can't handle Baltimore. I think they're going to play Kansas City again. And you know, I was, I'm pushing everybody on the show this morning because this is prisoner of the moment morning for the Bills. And I'm trying so hard to step back and say, do not jump the Chiefs, do not pick them apart. Just don't do it, especially against the Bills. I bet if we look up last year in Good Morning Football when we did our show, we're probably saying when the Bills beat them last year. This is the year, it wasn't the year. We saw the Chiefs get their doors blown off on Christmas by the Raiders and then they haven't lost for the next nine months. I won't step on the Chiefs right now. I'm trying to have the perspective to step back and be like, all right, they won 15 in a row and Buffalo was better than them last night. They'll still be there.
Well, and I kind of made reference to on game day morning yesterday when you were on it. Like if you just lose yourself in the Bills, you and Chris Bremen are going along on vacation together at some point. Boomer! You can just circle the wagons and can't go. We will circle the wagons.
Let's see Wataneo, you and him. Me and Red and Andy just hugging at Bills' redemption. There's redemption. And Boomer's sanding a boat and working on a hotel.
I have to give one lovable moment that I loved from game day morning yesterday. So I'm there with Rich and Kurt and Gerald and Mooch and everything. And we're playing a game show.
And the point of the game show is the answers to the game show are ridiculous player names that you would never imagine are real players. The answer to the question is DiCaprio Booty, who was a real player who was on the Chiefs for a little bit. The second Rich says the words DiCaprio Booty, I am like a dog in heat. I need to make a Leo DiCaprio dating joke.
It is why I get out of bed in the morning. I have to make it. But there's 50 different voices on set. And I just, it's not set up for that.
So I know no one else on set's gonna make them. Sure enough, like bleeping clockwork, Eisen comes in with the perfect PG-13, not R, but also not PG reference to DiCaprio's dating life. And I was like, thank you, Rich.
I can't end this segment without doing it. You were there for me. Yeah, he had a two year career.
So I'm like, go figure DiCaprio at a young career. Come on! That's what I need. That's all I need. We have to check that box. That was your reaction. There it is right there. That was me. Yeah.
Cause I'm sitting there being like, please someone acknowledge DiCaprio and Booty put together in one name. We have to make a joke. And I had the beer and the cigarette. Yes. Was he out of the league by 25?
No, 22. You get it, Brockman. If he would have been there, I couldn't have used it.
I only had Rich. Mariocchi is not making the joke about DiCaprio. No, he's not doing it. That was the next level.
He was in the league from 21 to 22. That's right. That's right.
The second you hit him, DiCaprio just cut him. Turn in your playbook. It's over.
Kyle Brand everybody. Thank you. Check him out every single day on Good Morning Football, 8 AM to 10 AM Eastern on NFL Network. And then the two hours afterwards, right here on the Roku Sports Channel. You the man. Thanks for coming in here. Coming up next on Rich Isaacson, so DiCaprio and Booty right here in this chair. Thank you Rich. Yeah! Yeah!
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Yes, because- Was it the part where the Cavs were really losing at the end? No, it's not that. It's not that, no. It's that Jeff Van Gundy, who was on the broadcast, said he went to school with you.
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I'm afraid I don't. Because the reverse is true. Oh, that's great. Yeah.
Yeah, I know. So, your phone wasn't lighting up from friends saying- No, I wish I'd seen it. I wish I'd seen him.
I would have been able to see his face and maybe, you know. But I was- I mean, I think we could, can we bring up a picture of Jeff Van Gundy? I don't know, so just stroll down memory lane here.
The one in the middle is Jeff Van Gundy. Does that ring a bell to you? That rings no bell whatsoever. I'm so sorry, Jeff.
No class reunions at all with the Jodie Foster and Jeff Van Gundy. Okay. We noticed you mentioned on the air that you were classmates with Jodie Foster at Yale. Yeah, and then you cheap-shotted me afterwards. No, I don't know.
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First in, first up. What's up, Hessel? What's up, Rich? How's it going, everyone? What's up, man?
Thanks for your overreaction Monday. So you see what's going on with the Bears and Matt Everflute's lame duck session as in head coach. The Raiders need a fire AP.
Oh boy. I wanted him, but we're going to be starting a rookie quarterback with a coach that's on shaky ground going into the next year. Might as well cut the cord, pay for Ben Johnson or Mike Graves. Wow. I just don't know what Mark Davis, you know, how's it?
Let's take this piece by piece. First of all, the job that he did last year was so significant for him to have the interim tag removed. The most important player on the team, Max Crosby said, I want him. And it would be really problematic, essentially, if you don't take the interim tag off. Then the problem was that he won enough games as the interim to deserve to have the interim tag removed. That it knocked him so far down the draft order, they didn't have a shot at any of the rookie quarterbacks, including the one that's sitting there in division, killing it right now for the Denver Broncos. Cause they, you know, the trading position, either they didn't like them. I don't know why, I'd love to know the DNA of their evaluation of the quarterbacks. But you could pretty much know that Gardner Minshew and Aidan O'Connell wasn't going to be a division winning strategy this year.
And it's just really gone south. So what is Tom Brady's role going to be in this one? What is Davis's desire to pay dead money to a coach? Well, reportedly Brady's going to have 90% input on personnel. What does that mean, 90%? It means he's going to be heavily involved. I don't know, Hessel.
This one's going to be fascinating to me. Who's going to take this job if they won and done somebody like that? You know, winning over the locker room might be a question. Tom Brady solves all problems. If he can convince Braves, then we'll take him. You know, I wanted AP. I thought he would be the rah-rah guy for the franchise, especially with Crosby won him over, but it's just, things aren't looking right. And if we're going to go into next year with him potentially losing his job and us having a short door standard or any offensive, any quarterback, we want someone with more offensive-mindedness, I think, developing him, than what you're seeing with Caleb Williams and the downfall with the Chicago Bears. Thanks, Hessel.
I appreciate it. And obviously any team that drafts Chidor, well, the draft would happen after any coach that gets hired, find out what's going on with Prime. Just don't know if that's what he's interested in. He has said he is not.
He has said he is not. And you know, Irv going on Friday night on Netflix, sitting next to Jerry Jones before the Paul Tyson fight, saying, you know, I'm going to talk to Jerry about Deion, essentially. I'm going to be in his ear about him. Because Deion got that result from BYU in Kansas that they needed while they pounded the crap out of Utah. Deion's got a destiny-controlled path to the college football playoffs right now. Yeah, well, he's going to get a lot of calls about the pros. I'm sure, certainly since his son and Travis Hunter and Shiloh and all those folks are going to be coming. Again, in Vegas, he and Antonio Pierce are tight. They're represented by similar people, same people.
I just don't know about that one. And, you know, everybody's thinking Brady's going to go get Belichick. While I'm here, my phone is burning up about Belichick to Jacksonville right now.
Burning, multiple people. It makes a lot of sense. A lot of people were connecting the dots, too. I don't know if it was Mike Florio who did first, but Belichick and Trent Baalke were together with the Jets. Way back in the day, Baalke was a scout. And I'm wondering if they could work together in Jacksonville.
Oh, sorry, so Baalke could be the guy in the front office that just, you know, kind of stamps some things. Right. I mean, sitting right there, Doug Peterson, man. That one is just- We're still waiting. And when I heard all these reports coming out that Peterson would get got if he doesn't beat the Lions, the most rampaging number one team in the National Football League, certainly at home, they are.
They certainly are. No, no, no. I mean, the idea that they could beat them. It was a 13 point spread. With Matt Jones, I texted you right away. I texted the group right away that if this happens, it's like the virtually most difficult win of the year would be right now taking on the Lions in Detroit, coming off a game where they won, but they feel like the need to prove themselves with your backup quarterback. And to say, if you don't win that, you're going to get fired now, made me think on the spot, it's the race for Belichick. That, you know, Bill sounds exactly like the guy who would say, I'm not talking to you.
You don't have a job open. So Peterson, I mean, it's just, I love this guy, man. It was it was tough to see his press conference afterwards. Again, getting obliterated. Worst loss in the history of the Jaguars is what he had to say afterwards. You know what, I can't I can't control that. And, you know, listen, I've been around this league a long time. And, you know, if it's going to happen, it's going to happen, obviously.
But but at the same time, I still have a job to do. And that's to, you know, you know, get ready for, you know, a good division opponent here in two weeks. I mean.
It's tough. This league, man. And Antonio Pierce is feeling it right now, that's for sure in Vegas.
But I mean, if you believed in his abilities last year. Right. I mean, Zamir White's not the same. It's just a different team. And you just. And no Devonta Adams, obviously, Brock Bowers.
The coach gets fired. You got guys who want to play. Brock Bowers is a superstar. Yeah.
He is that. But I mean, you just knew you just knew something's up with the quarterback that you're not going to go through 17 games as successfully as you did just, you know, five last year. Just feels like Mark Davis got bullied by his players last year in the hiring AP. Man, this is going to get wild. Vrabel is not a bad choice for anybody, by the way.
I expect him to be back on the sideline next year. Sure. Yeah. And if. Screw it. If the Buckeyes don't go as far as the faithful think they should go. That's another one.
Which is what, to the Natty? And win it. Yeah, Natty and win it. How far do they need to go to save Ryan Day's gig? I don't know.
Talk to a Buckeye fan about that. Yeah, by the way, Amy, at least to the Natty, you talk to one of them. Feels like it. 844-204 Rich, number down. More of your phone calls. John David Washington is going to be in studio hour number three. Can't wait to see him here.
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Back here on the Roku Sports Channel. Everybody, Kyle Brant in the parking lot, heading out, John David Washington coming in here. We have not had John David in studio. Correct. We've had him on the phone before talking about Tenet, which I still don't understand. Nope.
That's all right. We had Christopher Nolan on for his remote drop. Moving and he said it was Ricky Bobby. Ricky Bobby, if you're not first, you're lost.
That's what he said. So John David coming in here, I'll tell the story about his dad coming to NFL Network in the summer of 2006. We were three years old. He wanted to watch his son play preseason football for the St. Louis Rams. And he is now coming into the studio as a bona fide actor of the first variety in support of The Piano Lesson, which is in select theaters now. Available for streaming on Netflix on Friday.
And this one, again, packs more of a punch than what we saw on Netflix Friday night. Ready to talk about that, gents? Sure. We should talk about the women's fight before. Oh, definitely. Well, for sure. We're going to talk about all of it.
It's insanely better. We're going to talk about all of it. Yeah. We'll talk about all of it. And then more of your phone calls, 844.
All phone lines are lit. We've got to talk about a lot of stuff here. What are the games we haven't discussed yet?
We haven't discussed Niners and the Seahawks. Nope. I got that one right here. Tua's return to action is going very well. Very well.
Right? Very well. And Anthony Richardson's return to action went very well in the fourth quarter. He's back. And he beat the Jets. And Jamis had almost 400 yards.
Go figure that. The Cooper Cup ball. Cooper Cup ball.
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We're going to, at the top of the next hour, have some real estate for you. Friday night, I kept texting Chris. Tell me when the fight's on, because I know you were watching it. I was.
I was dialed in. You know, I'm just like, I just, you know. And then I'm seeing, you know, Irv's on with. I mean, everybody with Jerry Jones. And then comes one of the craziest wrinkles in sports television. I think. Boxing analyst Rosie Perez.
Didn't see that one coming at all. See, you guys don't watch a lot of boxing then, because she's a fan. She's just a huge, they call her like the first lady of boxing. That is correct. I don't, I don't watch a lot of boxing.
I admittedly, I do not. Yeah, so. Didn't expect to see her on the broadcast. I knew that she was a big fan, but she was part of it. Yeah, with Roy Jones Jr. And yeah, Mara Winalo. Yep, yep, yep.
Who I love, like I'm a huge Mara Winalo fan, just legendary. He's been here. Yeah, I know. In the combat sports world. I mean, he's called wrestling.
That's right. He was fighting. He was so in it, he made Joe Tessitore sound like a librarian.
Kate Scott on the desk. Plus, Mara's one of the goats when it comes to mixing pop culture references. And with his announcing of sporting events. We watched a woman's fight first. That was the, yeah, the co-main event.
Right. And Cooper has never seen an eye cut quite like the one that we saw in that fight. Nasty. He was flipping out.
There haven't been a lot of eye cuts like that. Nasty. That was nice. Flipping out.
Oh. And at one point, they got right in there as the cut man smearing the Vaseline. I thought you were talking about Tyson's bare ass.
Getting right in there. Like Bernie Mac said, you could see to the white meat when she was cut, you know. So, yeah, the Tyson just strolling off on the camera and then you see his bare ass. First of all, I didn't know that was his son. His son's working for what, Netflix or whoever. I didn't know that either.
Yeah, that was his son who did the interview with him. Hence the cheek kiss. There you go. Exactly. Then. Then the cheeks.
Then comes the time. Come on out. And what was with the green car with Logan Paul and, and, and, and. I think they were trolling Mike with the song from The Hangout.
I understand that in the air tonight, whatever, from The Hangover, who cares? But I mean, this car was going so slow. Zander, my oldest goes, dad, why is the car going so slow?
Shouldn't you just get out and walk to the ring faster? And I'm like, great idea. And then, and then Logan is spraying Jake with this spray. I found out what he's got his new body spray line or something like that.
That's apparently what it is. Always be closing ABC. And you know, in the air tonight. So I turned to Coop and Zan and I say, you know, he's not going to come out in a car. Mike Tyson. I said, I guarantee you all black. He is going to come out and he is going to walk himself into that ring.
Dark and hell is hot. And he did. And, and at one point my boys look at me and go, he looks scary. And I'm like, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Yes. He's scary. If you thought that looks scary, like this guy.
Imagine 1988, you know, and then we watched him look all his 58 years. Um, you know, he did his first two rounds. It looked like he even round one.
Huh? I had a winning round one. Well, I mean, he did. I mean, that was the idea is that we were all hoping the puncher's chance, the fighter's chance.
You know, the one time that he could just get his seed legs under him and just get enough of a wallop and hit Jake Paul right in the grill and then end it. And that would be something we'd be talking about forevermore. But I got a text from Chris Maddox in the middle of all this, all the way from Saudi Arabia told you. Yeah, that's what he texted. Told you. Yeah.
Which is like, what are we doing? He's 58. There's not going to be any fight. It's not going to be much of a fight.
Nothing's going to happen. You know, and eight rounds in, you know, fighting his gloves. It was just weird. The whole thing was just weird. It was more of a spectacle than an actual fight.
Right, right, right. Is what it was. Yeah, I mean, look, I don't know what I told you guys how I felt about it. I didn't watch it live. I actually fell asleep, caught the replay.
You know, I woke up, guys, I had one hundred thirty seven text messages on my phone in like three hours between you guys and other chat. So I was watching it. I just rewound it. I didn't.
Nothing got spoiled. I watched it. It's what you thought. They're saying 60 million people were watching. OK, well, no, no, 60 million households, households.
That's more than 60 million people. Sure. Well, again, it was a spectacle. You wanted to see it. You just want to see what Mike would look like.
And could he possibly lay a glove on Jake Paul, let alone knock him to the ground? And it was just not to be. It's just father time. It's the sort of thing. And it was kind of. Or it's boxing.
And it's not in the up and up. Oh, please, I don't know, because at one point, Rosie Perez did say the most, you know. I think she said the thing that everybody was sitting there was thinking is, why isn't Jake Paul finishing him off? Because, you know, maybe it's just like that was part of the deal.
It's like I'll carry you eight rounds and we'll all make a killing. And they did. They got paid.
And then Logan Paul busted out the spray can again. And I'm like, what the hell is happening? What the hell is happening? That's the headline of the of the of the whole night is what the hell is happening? The hell going on? You know, and I'll just say this, though, as if.
I'll say what, why not say, say what your chest. You were texting me and so is Smitch the screen of saying it's not working, right? Yeah, OK. I know some friends who kids were watching upstairs. The adults were watching downstairs. The adults one wasn't working. The kids one was working upstairs.
They all went into the kids room and watched this thing like a whole bunch of like 20 people. I'm sure you were thinking what I'm thinking. That better not happen on Christmas or before Christmas. Yeah.
Get that figured out. Somebody the buffering expert needs to slide down the chimney because there's two NFL games that are coming. And internationally, I mean, that's going to make that 60 million number look like child's play.
That cannot happen on Christmas. So. You know, let's just put it this way, I got five weeks to figure it out.
I would say the NFL is not going to get that many people. Oh, please get more. Oh, more is going to be more.
Well, it's going to be more. Say what? So there was Jake Paul. There was Mike Tyson and then there was Michael buffering.
But on books, although he wasn't there. Who is that dude? I don't know who that dude was. He was the next generation. I guess I'm going to read off stuff.
He was new to me. Yeah, but look, they better get it right, because Rod's moving to Netflix on January 6th. I can't have no buffering on the six from the Intuit. Don't watch January 6th.
Interesting. Hey, it's Rich Eisen here. Join me and my compadre Chris Brockman every Monday on the overreaction Monday podcast.
Rich Jamis has taken the browse to the playoffs. Dude, why can't they win seven, eight games to finish the year? Why not? I'm not saying it's no, why not? But this is a definitive statement that's clearly an overreaction.
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