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Go! Mookie Betts at it again. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Francisco Lindor, he has hit a grand slam.

California, here we come. Earlier on the show, NFL Network analyst Brian Baldinger. Coming up, Vikings wide receiver Jalen Naylor, MLB writer for The Athletic, Levi Weaver. And now, sitting in for Rich, it's Andrew Siciliano.

Because Rich is in London, he'll join us coming up shortly as well. Getting ready for the Bears and the Jaguars. Jacksonville still not there, by the way. They're supposed to leave today, get there tomorrow. Bears have been there all week. Their delay, or they're going to be delayed, leaving Jacksonville because of the storm.

They are expected to get out this evening, however, or this afternoon, and get to London by the time we get to Friday. Thank you for being here, by the way. My name is Andrew, as you just heard.

You get me today. Who's in tomorrow, by the way? Mike Hill. Mike Hill from Fox Sports is in tomorrow.

From Fox, always well dressed on Saturdays or Fridays doing the college football. That's Chris Brockman. That is Jason. That is TJ.

Congratulations, TJ, to you and your Mets. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Are you waiting for your mic to get turned on there? Was that what that was?

I didn't know you were going to say something else in addition to, so I was holding off. No, no. Congratulations to your peewee team or peewee or flag team. Flag team.

Eight-year-old flag team. They did it. That meant a lot to you yesterday? Oh, it was great. It was, honest to goodness, I shouldn't have felt as great as I felt watching these kids. No, you should have felt.

You should have felt that because the looks on their faces, it's all about, like, the kids. Like, I brought my little nephew who just turned 10 on Sunday, brought him to the hotel. Well, he got to go to the game and go down to the field, obviously, on Sunday. That was great. Not obviously, but we were able to do that for him. But he came and did my pregame interview with me when Kevin Stefanski, on Saturday evening at the hotel, he thought that was cool. Got to meet a bunch of players. That's awesome. My point is giving kids like that experiences like that.

Yeah, it's amazing. We'll continue this in a second. Also, experiences like what we're about to have down. This man's on a bye, so we appreciate his time. What a start for the Minnesota Vikings and specifically for Jalen Naylor.

With three touchdowns early, he joins us live from somewhere, Jalen. Thank you on your bye. Are you on vacation?

By the whiteboard behind you, I'm guessing no. What are you doing? No, no, I'm back at home. I just got done with treatment, so I'm just chilling right now.

Okay. How did London treat you other than the big win? It was really good. Really good to be out in London, you know, get a change of scenery other than the States.

I mean, it's a great country to go to and play ball in. Did you do anything fun like big band, like parliament, like sightseeing, have a pint? No, I didn't really get a chance to get around, but I did go to Wofford actually.

It's like an hour north of London, but it was a nice little city. Okay, how was that? That was cool. Yeah, it was straight. It wasn't bad.

Okay, there you go. The Vikings, one of two teams that are undefeated ever, which everyone saw coming, of course, Jalen, and you guys and the Chiefs, everyone saw that coming. Did the fact that no one saw it coming at all contribute to the run you've been on? You know what I'm saying? Caleb gets all the hype. The Packers are the Packers. Jordan's coming off a great season, right? I mean, you know how the NFC North goes.

The Lions were this close to the Super Bowl. No one saw you guys come, but I'm assuming except people in your building. Yes, absolutely. All the people that are in the building, seeing what we could do throughout the off season, throughout training camp, and we're just putting everything together each and every week, just trying to stack the weeks.

It's showing so far. What about for you? I know health is a huge part of it, obviously, right? You're back.

You're healthy. You got an offense and a play caller that's clicking right now, but what has been the secret to your early success, Jim? Just take care of my body and just being prepared to go out and play all three positions at the receiver's spot and just do what I do, you know, and I have the trust in the coaches and my teammates, you know, the go out there and make plays, and I've been doing that so far. See you hugging Kevin O'Connell. What's he like as a head coach? I mean, he's wonderful, man.

I mean, he's the best coach. For players-wise, you know, he takes care of us. He always keeps things straightforward with us and has a lot of trust and just accountability for each and every player on the team and coach staff as well. Got to know him a little bit.

When he was here in LA, I called games for the Rams. He has a level of positivity. He's super smart, first of all, but there is a level of positivity. Also, I think with simplicity to the offense, it's not a simple offense, but he gives you the answers to the test, you know what I'm saying? And so on game day, what's that like when you have, A, that positivity and B, that preparation and confidence? I mean, you know, the positivity, it goes a long way. He just keeps us going and keeps us motivated to just do our best. And we have the right tools and our offense and the guys in the building to go out there and execute the game plan that he has.

It may seem simple to everybody else, but it's not really too simple once you really get down and look at it and really dive down deep into it. Talking to Jalen Naylor of the Vikings, what'd that win mean? Because I don't think he really led on to it too much. It was just another week for Sam Darnold, right?

Sure. What it really mean to be the Jets? I mean, for me, it was another week, for sure. But for Sam, I know it probably felt good for him to go out and play his former team and defeat them and show that he was a quarterback that they did draft when they did back in the day. So, I mean, it's just another confidence booster for him just to keep on going and see what the season takes us. He's throwing dimes as well. And your defense is on a heater. Does Brian Flores turn up the heat in practice on you guys as much as he turns up the heat on game day on the opposing offense?

Absolutely. You know, through training camp, he was throwing a lot of stuff at us to where we can play fast as an offense during the season. You know, it's not not as much scheme wise things that we have to go and look and read the coverages before the play and during the play. So he throws a lot at us during practice. And I'm thankful to have him as our defensive coordinator to go out and challenge us. And they're doing a phenomenal job on the defensive side, just causing havoc.

Yeah. It's always a push-pull between play caller and DC in training camp, for example, head coach and DC or offensive coordinator and DC. Because like when you have a defense like your defense that brings so much heat, sometimes you got to tell them in camp, hey, like back off. We've got to, we've got to get our basics down, right?

Like we have to be a, not everything can be a hot in training camp, right? I mean, for us, we love, we love that about our defense. You know, it allows us to go out and compete and face a very tough defense every day. So, I mean, we love it as an offense.

It gets us prepared for the season. So I was trying to piece together, talking to Jalen Naylor here for the Vikings, trying to piece together your backstory. And then it hit me because I do games for the Browns here.

I don't know if you know that Jalen, you probably don't, you shouldn't know it. You had at one point, you're Bishop Gorman High School in Vegas, right? You at one point, it was you and Cedric Tillman as the wide receivers and DTR Dorian Thompson Robinson as the quarterback. Did you guys ever lose? We did lose one game of our senior year against the modern day against the Marvis St. Brown and those guys. But that was our only loss that season. Actually we lost, we lost two.

We lost to Miami central as well. Okay. Who's modern day's quarterback? I think it was Tana McKee.

I think Tana McKee was the quarterback then. Wow. Man, the amount of talent on that field. It was crazy. Dude, that's ridiculous. Handful of pros in that game?

Yeah, just a handful of pros. It is crazy sometimes when on a week by week basis, you go back and try to connect the dots. And this guy played at that guy in high school and that guy played it.

And you're like, wow, the level of talent that you had. And obviously the Browns were back there a couple of weeks ago and DTR and Ced got to go back home. Unfortunately, the game did not end the way that they were hoping, but obviously the future hopefully still bright for them the rest of the way. Does it mean something to stay the last undefeated team Jalen in the NFC? Clearly you don't want to lose. I know that sounds like a silly question, but for some it's like a source of pride. We're the last one standing. Does that mean anything? For me, no. I mean, we still got to go out each week and still prove to everybody else that we're a good football team and play all three phases of the game.

And we just got to keep improving, clean up the little things throughout each game and just keep improving. Are you getting any vacation? Last question here.

Or is it only stick at home and focus on treatment? You have anything? I'm just sticking home, you know, just getting my body ready for next week and just chilling with my family. Because we were talking yesterday to David Montgomery with the Lions. He took the kids.

I know you get them next. He took the kids to Disneyland and it seemed like it took a year off his life, honestly. I mean, probably, you know, Disneyland's a huge place, a lot of walking around, things like that, but it's still a good time for family to go out and grow themselves. Absolutely. Well, Jalen, we appreciate your time. Enjoy the rest of your bye week. You get the Lions coming up at home in Minneapolis next week.

I'm sure you'll be on the couch watching them against the Cowboys on Sunday. Continued success. And hey, hope to talk to you down the line. Yes, sir. Thanks so much, Andrew. Thanks for having me.

You got it. Jalen Naylor, everyone, of the Minnesota Vikings. Great start. Touchdown to the first three games for the Vikings. And yeah, how about that high school team? How'd they lose?

I mean, I guess you played modern day. That's one of those things where the top teams in each state, they kind of make an agreement and they play, you know, Cross obviously played a California team. They played Miami, he said. So that's fun. You know, I mean, but I imagine in league play locally in Las Vegas, those must've been some fun high scoring games. You have bonkers. You have two NFL wide receivers and the guy that is an NFL quarterback obviously won a game last year when he had to be forced in to face the Steelers and the guy that started 50 games at UCLA.

50. 5-0. Anyway, let's get some NFL headlines here.

Rich is coming up later this hour as well. We have not forgotten the baseball. Obviously, we mentioned that the Mets won. They knocked out the Phillies. The Mets now get the winner of the Dodgers and the Padres game five. That game is coming up tomorrow.

Indy, I did that. Guardians and the Tigers today, a game four in Comerica in Detroit. It was cool.

Look, I'm a Guardians fan. It was cool to see that crowd there for the Tigers. They hadn't had that in a long, long time in Detroit. I was in Detroit two weekends ago for Michigan State, Ohio State, and was there when the Tigers clinched. Like all those good vibes there with also then on Monday night, the Lions beat the Seahawks. Like it's fun right now. And I'm happy for them and happy for the city. And I'll be happy as well when the Guardians beat them this afternoon and force the game five coming up on Saturday at Progressive Field. We need to talk it into existence because there is nothing worse than as a fan. Look, it's bad when your football team loses. You spend your entire fall with baseball.

It's a full every day of six months of fandom, right? I mean, you carry that game with you wherever you go every day. You're always looking at the score. For me, when I'm in the car, I'm listening to the game. When I'm on a walk or run, I'm working out, I'm listening or watching the game. When baseball seasons end like that, when you make the postseason and then they just end so quickly. Like for me, I reevaluate my choices in life. Like I spent six months, the amount of hours that a fan puts in, an everyday fan, which is what I am, which is what you are for the Mets, which is what you are for the Red Sox, right? The amount of hours that you put in to following your team. It's three plus a day.

Like even with the pitch clock these days where games are quicker. It helped a little. It did help. A little. But like if you're like me and you're also playing fantasy baseball. Yes.

The amount of hours. I don't know how you do it. When the games aren't happening.

I don't know how you do it. It's a lot. And then come March and spring training and you go, am I going to do this again? And you're like, yeah, I am.

Am I going to do this again? It really stinks when your team's not good. I can't relate. But I mean, I must assume that it would really stink if your team wasn't really, really good at baseball. You can't relate.

Again, I don't know what that's like right now. Because the Mets have just had smooth sailing. First time for everything.

I don't know. TJ, for you on a personal level, I am happy for you. As a friend of the feather, I'm happy for Francisco Lindor. He did that in 2017, the grand slam off the Yankees. We've seen it before.

Yeah. Guardians win tonight. Whoever was directing the Mets game last night.

Great job. Because like constant crowd shots of very nervous Mets fans expecting the worst. I mean, we're conditioned for such. You know, but here's guys, here's one thing, though, that, you know, about 10 o'clock last night, I'm watching the highlights and there was a moment I got a little bit sad. And that was all because I was sitting there looking at them, celebrating, wishing, thinking like, man, the Grom should be there, man. Everything he did for this team. And we just we never gave him the run support, even though he was winning Cy Young awards and all that. He was just like, that was our guy, man.

So it was a little bit disappointing that Jake couldn't be a part of this. But, you know, it is what it is. Hey, you won. You move on. All right. You get even higher coming out here.

Good luck. Yeah. Coming up, we're going to London. Rich is in London. We have your NFL headlines. Todd Dowding is your new play caller for the New York Jets.

Rich is in law. That's is that a new photo shoot? I love that. Yes.

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All right. And getting ready to say the Lord's prayer and give our players a peptide. That's where I'm supposed to be. When I run to the shower, call my assistant, can't get him.

The waffle is spilled on the floor. I get back. My assistant says, hey, what's up? And I said, when did the buses leave? No one called. He said, coach, the buses haven't left yet. They had taken B roll from the Monday night game. Someone in the tape room ran the wrong tape. Can you imagine?

I text fall. He's on set with Rich. I said, what are you guys doing? I had a cow.

I'm telling you, you have no idea. We're talking about being like, this is the divisional playoff game, not being there for the kickoff as the head coach. That's how late I was. And Sean, just Marshall showing me the text.

We went back and forth. I arrived. This guy now is live on the field and I peek out at the stadium only because of the conditions. And I take a look and Rich says, good to have Sean. Peyton here at the stadium.

Just some, some slight comment that not one person is going to understand until we tell this story. Amazing. It is the rich Eisen show everybody on a Thursday to kick off week number six, we got the Niners and the Seahawks coming up this evening in Seattle. This is, as you know, by now the rich Eisen show desk. It is furnished by Grainger. It is a fantastic desk.

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Rich Eisen? It's about dinner time. You know, it's dinner time, pub crawl time for those of us who, who might be so inclined for a pint. Will you and Kurt be crawling later? Absolutely not.

Kurt doesn't crawl. Hey, TJ, congratulations on the NLCS. Thank you, brother.

You're welcome. I zoomed in early enough to hear your impassioned take on the, on the event and how, you know, you wish that Jacob deGrom was there since he obviously so much to do with, with all of us. You, you, you left out somebody who also was not there.

The most important Welch since Bob Haley was not there as well. So cut his mic, Jason, don't let TJ. You left that one out. You know, in this comment, wait, Rich, you missed yesterday. The end of yesterday's show.

TJ said if the Mets win the world series, he's getting a grimace tattoo. Oh really? Yes.

Yes. And it wasn't a bet with anyone, rich. It wasn't a prediction. It was like Paul Heyman said, it's not a prediction. That was a spoiler. If they do, if something happens in the earth and the moon and the stars and the retrograde of mercury somehow all aligned that big purple goofy looking mug is going somewhere on my body. Probably my leg. Can we, can we offer a second option here?

I'm fascinated with McDonald's characters. If they don't win the world series punishment, be like the Hamburglar. I don't think there should be, there shouldn't be, no, no, no, there should not be a risk.

There should be just a reward. This is a Mets team that around seriously was flat lining on Memorial day. Like nobody saw any of this coming. If anybody had said on Memorial day that the first team in the LCS waiting for everybody else to join, that they'd be sitting back with a cigar chilling out and it would be the New York metropolitan as well.

Everybody else still had to work in order to get to the LCS. No one would have believed you. No one would have believed you. And you got to give it up.

You got to give it up. And I understand, you know, who's not there. I just wanted to remind TJ of who wasn't there as well. Yeah, there's, there's the trumpets.

And again, that's not a metaphor for anything whatsoever. I'm just saying that there's a whole, I guess, cadre of people who, who deserve the kudos and the salute. And you left one of them out. That's all I'm saying.

I did not leave anyone out who deserved it. And now that whole cadre could wait for the Padres potentially. Hey now that's a word Smith. Who is it that you want?

Like we're actually rich to your point. We're sitting here asking the Mets like, Hey, who do you want? Who do I want? Yeah, man. Here's what I would love. It's the bottom of the Dodgers.

So you can go right there. It's the game clinching moment where Diaz and Otani are going at it. For baseball, I feel like that would be the greatest thing. If Otani hits a home run, so be it. Diaz strikes him out, so be it.

That's what I want to see it come down to at the very end. And it's, it's geographically sound for you, TJ. It's my grandpa's team. Would you actually go? Because when the Cowboys are here, all you do is complain about the traffic. I mean, here's the deal. Will I go? Here's the deal.

I'll drive you. In 2015, I had the option to either go to Mets Dodgers or save that money and hope we made it to the World Series. I decided to take the chance that we'd make the World Series, which we did. So I spent the money to go to the World Series. So I'm thinking, listen, I'm rooting for you, Andrew Siciliano money, man.

I can't go to the boat. I'm rooting for you. And it's just crazy because first pitch of these games starts at 1.15 in the morning. You're like tonight, Thursday night football. Yeah. But first pitch of Yankees Royals is 1.08 London time.

And then seven minutes later is kickoff of Seattle and San Francisco. And even if I decided just like, let's just stay up for a little bit of it. Yeah. Then it's crazy. And then you wake up in the morning and then you turn your phone on, you have no idea.

You just learn just by looking at your phone, which clearly I'm not used to doing that sort of thing. I'm used to just watching the whole thing, but that's part and parcel of being here in the UK when all these big sports are going down in the United States. So at any rate, I met with the Bears today, guys, if you don't mind me transitioning. Yeah. I met with the Bears. How's Caleb? And Caleb, it was cool, man. He's kind of all business.

There's nothing goofy about him. He showed up to this meeting and was just talking about how things are improving on the offensive side of the ball. DJ Moore came in beforehand and gave us the quote of the day. He said, everybody's Wi-Fi is finally connecting on offense, is what he said. And it did appear that after connecting with Roma Dunze earlier on in the season, and certainly in the preseason, and DJ Moore having three touchdowns in his last two games, I did get the sense that 18 on your screen there is going to be looking for Keenan Allen and getting him involved coming up against the Jacksonville Jaguars. And that Caleb is feeling more comfortable, you know, this just in, two 300-yard games, including the passer rating north of 125, the highest passer rating of a Bears rookie quarterback of the Super Bowl era. He is feeling more confident. I can feel it. Yeah, I know. And they're also adding a little bit more to the offense each and every week. And so you got the sense that they come here and would love to, you know, get one more win, stack some wins together, go from one and two to four and two into their bye week, after which they've got Jayden Daniels and the commanders on the other side.

But you definitely get the sense that the kid is 100% more confident in everything. I asked him what his daily routine is, because I was kind of curious just to hear, you know, what his scoop is. And he mentioned how he gets into work 6, 6.30 in the morning, gets in a lift, and then he goes to his various meetings, and he's there pretty much all day and one of the last ones out, goes home, studies some more film, and then unwind, plays some video games. I mentioned Apex 2K and Call of Duty, to which Kurt Warner turned to me and asked me if I knew what those were in front of everybody. Wait, Kurt didn't know Call of Duty? No, it's not that he didn't know. He was calling me out.

Oh. Because the meeting began, Kurt always starts the meetings. I mean, when you got a Hall of Fame quarterback sitting in there, and of course, you know, the analyst is the one who wants to get a lot of thoughts about what he's going to be seeing on game day, seeking to prepare for that.

But a lot of this is also Kurt, who is, you know, one of the best tape dissectors in the business, sort of confirming what he thinks he's seeing on film with the person who's going through it. So his first question was to ask Caleb Williams to grade himself on the season. Caleb was going back and forth, choosing his words carefully. And, you know, Matt Eberfluss did say later on that he's particularly hard on himself, and the coach is constantly reminding Caleb to be more gracious to himself. Caleb finally did give the grade of B minus C plus to himself. I respect that. I do too, yeah.

Yeah, I know. To which I then said, you know, just say, you could have said this grade was incomplete and just moved away from Kurt, which I think Kurt didn't like when I said that, which is why he clapped back at me about the video game stuff. But the video game stuff is, again, I just want to know, and this is why I asked, why I told Caleb is why I was asking him, is just to see, you know, how easy the game was coming to him, or at least it looked to all of us when he was in college winning Heisman Trophy, the Heisman Trophy for USC, and making all these eye-popping Mahomes-like plays, to see if he's, you know, more immersed in football than ever before, that he's more 24-7 about football than ever before. And he said it's not appreciably more, that obviously the game is definitely more difficult for him to get up to speed, and how he told a story about being in training camp, and he got the play call wrong, and the protection wrong, and Cole Komet in the middle of the huddle in front of everybody said, you're getting it wrong.

Like, maybe you want to do that again. And how he appreciated that, and how it's been a learning curve ever since, and how he's accepted that challenge, and things of that nature. But I just couldn't help but think that if we had seen him in week one, week two, certainly, after losing in Indianapolis, or in week three after that loss in Houston, when he and DJ Moore and the rest of the receivers began to meet either on the side in practice, or in the case of Adunze and Williams working together after practice, and DJ Moore being asked to work together more after practice, and him being a veteran, and kind of wondering, you know, staying late, sort of giving the side eye to that, but of course he's there for his rookie quarterback, and how they're all communicating a little bit more since week three, and they haven't lost since then. It was just an interesting glimpse into seeing this team, and how they're building up with their first year quarterback, as opposed to the Vikings, the home team from the NFC North last week, where they had just kind of taken off like a rocket ship with their new first year starter for them, but obviously a bit more veteran. And seeing how the Vikings are now 5-0, Bears are 3-2, and hoping to get to 4-2, and be, you know, right just one win behind the Vikings. It's interesting, just sort of, and one last thing to tell you about too. We did not meet in the same room, it's the same facility, did not meet in the same room as we met with Robert Salah last week, and I kind of got the sense the Bears knew which room we met with him in, and did not hold a meeting in there. Kind of got that little sense for a split moment there. Wow. We weren't, you know, and again, it's not a me thing, it's not an NFL Network thing, okay, it's just a jet thing. Did Iberfluss's hair look good though?

Actually it didn't, it looked like he didn't have much product in it, really. Hat? No hat? No hat? No hat, you know, and it was a little bit misty outside, but it was pretty cool.

So we met with Caleb, him, and DJ Moore, and it was fun meeting with him. So we meet with the Jaguars Saturday, they were supposed to meet with us tomorrow, but their plans due to Hurricane Milton changed, and I kind of think the general sense I'm getting is the team got caught in between when did they want to go, and obviously avoid the hurricane, but I think the sense was with the hurricane bearing down, taking everybody out of Duval County and just kissing their families goodbye and saying, we're out, just let us know how the hurricane, you know, is hitting you. I think the team wanted to stay until the storm had passed and deal with whatever schedule ramifications might be had there as opposed to having the team leave their families, because they're playing another game after that against the Patriots in week seven. So for them to leave their family behind for 10 days as a potential category five was hitting the coast of Tampa and then going who knows where in the state of Florida, I think the team wanted to wait it out. That's the general sense I'm getting right there.

Yeah, and that makes all the sense in the world as well. Obviously the brunt of it on the west coast, the story this morning that Raymond James had some damage, but it was mostly cosmetic damage. We've all seen the images of Tropicana Field right there with basically the roof blown off and sports stadiums only one small little concern. The human toll obviously far greater than that, but hopefully the Jaguars get there and get to London safely and soon they're scheduled to arrive a little bit later on Friday.

That press conference for Friday morning has been postponed. Got to get your thoughts, Rich, on Todd Downing, former Raider, former Titan offensive coordinator, now whispering in Aaron Rodgers ear until the clock hits 15 every play on Monday night. That's a good way to put it. Oh man, it's, I honestly, oh man, oh man, you know, I've been thinking about it obviously quite a bit when, you know, when my mind gets to football, which is quite a bit, that I can't believe Aaron Rodgers's arrival in New York and all the hoopla and optimism that came with it had year one flush down the toilet due to a snapped Achilles, just five snaps into his first start. And then year two, five games into his first full year as starter there, Robert Sala gets fired as the first head coach to be fired mid-season in the Woody Johnson era, which as we all know began with Bill Belichick scrolling on a cocktail map and he didn't want to be the HC of the NYJ.

And then we all know what's happened between that moment and this one. And now if Sala was thinking of making this move to Todd Downing and this was apparently the reason why he was let go is because Rodgers refused to allow a code red being pulled on Nathaniel Hackett and now the new guy comes in and Jeff Ulbrich and makes this move. Who knows what to believe anymore other than the fact that the way it was going didn't feel as if it was heading towards any immediate, let alone long-term success and better to switch it up. That's just the only way to put it because the run game looked brutal, looked brutal, absolutely brutal. And Todd Downing, I know that's not Derrick Henry walking through that door, but for him to come in and maybe bring whatever schemes were working for the Titans and let that work for Braylon Allen and Breece Hall, they have to somehow some way take the pressure off of an offense that is leaning on the 40-year-old shoulder of Aaron Rodgers who's throwing it 50 times a game and has now gone three years without a 300-yard passing game. That is not the way to win football games. Doesn't matter if you have a championship defense as we clearly saw. So better switch it up than keep it going and if Jeff Ulbrich has that sort of swing and juice, go for it. He must have seen something from his position on the defensive side of the football to have made this move and nothing surprises me with the Jets anymore.

How does that sound? We had Baldy on last hour and he said the same thing about running the same thing about running the football. You got to run the football and they're not trying to run the football.

I just can't wait, however, for the first question, regardless of whether they win or lose on Monday night, the first question post-game and that is, hey Aaron, you threw the ball 45 times. How many times did Todd Downing call a run and you checked it and you changed it and you decided to throw? Listen, the bottom line is what this guy does under center and in shotgun for the Jets, as I mentioned after their last win against New England, is an adult at the position who can decipher the defenses, figure out which place to get in, which is exactly what you want. So if he's running the offense and it's just a different person that's giving him a menu of options, then go for it. Maybe that's helpful, but all that said, guys, is there was a third, and I mentioned this the other day when I zoomed in, third and fourth down, short yardage, first half, the Jets ran it two times. Rogers didn't check out of the plays. He kept them the way they were unless he checked into them.

I don't know, but he did seem irked and Kurt was even wondering on the air during the broadcast. You could take the ball out of the hands of Aaron Rodgers and third and fourth down, back to back downs. Certainly when you can't run it, they got to run it. Todd Downing's first order of business is to un-eff the run game with Breece Hall being as talented as he is and this 20-year-old kid being as big and as talented as he looks.

That's the way through here. So Rodgers throws it 25, maybe 30 times. Who cares if he doesn't throw it for 300 yards? As long as he puts it in the end zone three times, the way the Jets are playing defense, the Jets give you an offense with three touchdowns on it, you're going to win more than you lose. Despite all of the seeming dysfunction, which is what happens when you fire a coach five games in, and if you were going to fire a coach five games in because you didn't have enough confidence in him at two and three, then why do you have them come back at all this year with all the guys that are available to you in the off season? Despite all the feeling of dysfunction, the Jets win on Monday night. They're in first place. It's that simple. And so that's all that would matter moving forward for the rest of the 11 games with Chef Ulbrich.

Maybe he can un-frazzle the run game. Coming up. If you will. Yes, the power rankings. Yesterday, we did the powerless rankings. Coming up next, we've got the power. The show Rob G version. Did I get that right? Either or.

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Grainger, for the ones who get it done. I don't know if you guys noticed in the middle of that last segment, I made a sacrifice. Oh yeah?

For the program. What'd you do? I saw it. I don't know if you noticed. I did. Did you see how I looked off to the side? Yep.

Do you hear the knocks on the door? The turn down service? I turned down. For what? Turn down service.

Wow. For what? To continue the segment.

To continue the segment. Turn down for what? Turn down service? Why do you need someone to come in and turn the bedroom? Who has ever taken turned down service? I don't even get what I did. Everybody.

Why would you turn down, turn down service? Listen to the middle of a segment on the Rich Iveson Show. You've opened the door and said, please enter my room. Yeah. Come in. Absolutely. Move the sheets. Absolutely.

And leave me a minute. Fresh towels. Fresh towels.

Yes, absolutely. Fresh towels I'll take. Don't touch my bed. Let me tell you something, that's not a turn down.

That's a turn up. No, whatever. Touch the bed.

Listen, first of all, what's the matter with you? Secondly, secondly, secondly, the most important portion of turned down service is the folks who, who, uh, administrate such a thing, know how to somehow manipulate the, the, the, the, the rods that, that close the curtains. Oh yeah. To overlap the curtains. So there's no sunlight that comes in. I can't do that. Honestly, they never close. They never close. I have a travel hack for that if you need it.

What is that? So you take the hangers that have the clips on the bottom and you put them together and you clip them and then there's no, uh, no, like for your pants with the hanger, with the clips, the clips, the clips. Did you know you ain't hanging up in the hotel? Who needs turned down service? That's what I'm saying. Everybody, every human, get out of here.

Chocolates too. Stand by. And we're back on the rich Isaac show. Yeah, buddy. Yeah, buddy. Rachel here. We just had a, an amazing TV only conversation about turned down service.

I don't get it. Like I'm in my room. Leave me alone. I'm watching TV. You want to leave a towel?

That's I like the fresh towels. Like, you know, I just, I'm good. I'm thank you. I'm good.

That's just me. If I'm, if I'm gone. And when I returned to my room, I find that they left extra towels and the mint and I'm like, I'm, I'm appreciative, but I just don't need people coming in and out of my room while I'm there.

But they're, they're, they're, they're coming into the room no matter what. So what, who cares if there's the awkwardness and there's gotta be the interaction while I stand over there, while you do. And I feel awkward. Like, do I need to tip you? Do I like, it's just the whole, do I, the whole thing feels weird to me. Like I'm, I'm good. You do need to tip them, Andrew.

There is nothing tip worthy of you like moving the sheets and leaving a mint. Andrew, I don't get it. Brockman knows this rich doesn't Andrew. We were in Kansas city week one, we go to the chief's game. We're all hungry. We get back to the hotel. Everything's closed, right?

There's nothing neat. So, you know, there's a little snack section next to the front desk. I go and I get a Twix bar. I remember laying in bed and taking a bite. And the next thing I know, I woke up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom.

I came back and I looked at the bed and apparently I fell asleep on the Twix bar and it melted and the entire sheets were covered in chocolate, but it looked like not chocolate. So I had to make a, that's why I was a little late getting a set that day. I had to, I was scrubbing the sheets. I left them a note. I apologize.

Like this is not what you think it is. Okay. I have some followups.

First of all, first of all, I understand why you, you, you, you never informed me of this number. Number two, did you really feel like you gave the impression that you went to number two in your bed and you needed to actually explain yourself to the staff into this room and you saw, you know, Twix comes to the bar. The bar was completely stripped of any chocolate. It was all rubbed around in the bed. And I was so, so did you have the first ever Twix bar not made of caramel, but like, it was, it was like, well, like what the hell is in that? Like you just started eating it and passed out eating a Twix. Like what the hell we didn't get home from the game till like 1230, 1245. We had a long day.

So you pet. So let me grab a Twix and pass out while eating it in the midst. Was it my Twix? Was it my goal to pass out? I was hungry. There was a Twix.

I tried to eat it and I fell asleep. How Chris, you feel like, I feel like you have something to say, but you're trying to stay out of it. Right. I was going to make it.

Was it Twix plus? I don't know that there's anything I could say that is fit for radio or television. Well, I know it's, it's kind of fitting. I have my power rankings as the 10 best reasons to accept turndown service.

Oh no, wait a minute. It's my regular power rankings. Okay. After week five entering week six, hit it, hit it.

All right. All the way from London international version of power rankings. Now the first few weeks, there's been a lot of, a lot of flux, a lot of changes, a lot of right.

Because it's early on and suddenly a three and one team loses, maybe might fall off or a two team wins a couple. Now they're suddenly on. But this one was tough to fill out the last, the first four seven through 10 is really up to the, in the eye of the beholder right now. The top half it's, it's kind of a top heavy, no brainer listing, I think.

But the other ones are really hanky iffy and they might not be on your list, but they're on mine. And number 10 to start off my power rankings list. I teach you, I'm putting your Cowboys back up, put your Cowboys back on it. That was a stone dude. That was a stone's win that fourth quarter.

It looked like it was brutal. And then suddenly, you know, here comes Rico Dowdle and Jalen Tolbert, everybody introduced himself to the United States of America. Dak had one of his best quarters.

I know that was one of the subjects you had Chris in overreaction Monday pod, get that wherever you get your podcasts. That it was a Dak's greatest win as a Dallas Cowboy quarterback. I pushed back on that, but I'm putting them on a number 10 on the list to go to Pittsburgh and do what they did against that defense in the fourth quarter, back against the wall. They're now three and two, they're 10 on the list, number nine down two spots. I'm still keeping the Buffalo Bills in my power rankings.

They are three and two, and they have some questions surrounding them, I would say, no doubt, but I still believe they are in the top third of this league. They still have one of the best quarterbacks in this league and they're just down three spots, but they're still in my power rankings at nine. They, they, they should have won on Thursday night football. They did not win on Thursday night football, but they're staying like before the bucks stay in my power rankings. I still believe in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that they are in the top third of this league, no change. They lost last week.

They should have won. They would have been maybe a little bit higher, certainly because number seven back on the list after where I took them off, I'm putting the Falcons here. I'm putting the Falcons here at seven. You know, I'm, I'm just, you know, Kirk, oh, coming in there, throwing them for five bills and, you know, I mean, defensively, they, they might be susceptible offensively. They might be susceptible, you know, they've got one of the best place kickers in the game. I'm putting them at seven.

They, they lead a division. They're three and two, and I'm, I'm, I'm putting them back on the list. They're number seven. Now, number six on the list, no change. Baltimore Ravens are still sitting there at six. Might be too low for a lot of you folks since the guy on the screen is getting a lot of chatter for yet another MVP season that is forming. Derek Henry is performing better than any running back through five weeks.

Certainly in terms of rushing yards over the last three weeks, he's been as dominant as he has ever been. I'm putting the Ravens six on this list. They were kind of lucky to get through in Cincinnati last week.

So that's why I got them at six. The Washington commanders are still the top five team. They are dominant and I can't wait to see them and the Ravens play each other this week. Week six is my team's five at number six on my power rankings. And I'll tell you right now, folks, as much as I'm loving the Ravens and you know, I'm a hardball guy and a Derek Henry guy, and I love the Ravens and I love the Ravens, I'm spending a lot of my sleepless jet lagged moments staring at the ceiling trying to convince myself to take the commanders in this game to go five and one.

I think I know you want me to do it. But their top five, there's still five on this list because number five on that screen is unbelievable. Number four on the list down one spot because you know, they have the temerity of being off this week. I'm taking the Detroit Lions at four, I'm putting the Texans up from four to three. They are number three on my list right now because the Texans, despite losing Nico Collins for the next four weeks, I still think that they are the second best team in the AFC. The Vikings, I saw them in person, I couldn't be more impressed by their coaching staff, by the way Sam Darnold is playing and they won a game when he didn't even play very well, or at least have all of the accoutrement from Aaron Jones to all of the touchdowns that he throws. Number one, the Chiefs proved it, only a matter of time, 330 yards plus for number 15. Kelsey did it, all of a sudden you know Kareem Hunt's in the end zone and Juju Smith-Shuster's turned back the clock and the defense still is what it is and they're going to get healthier with a weak six by. The Chiefs are number one in my power rankings and so the Steelers and the Seahawks off, the Cowboys and Falcons back on, that's my power rankings. Fantastic, happy for Juju as well by the way, like Juju, fountain of youth, Juju on Monday night.

Same goes for Kareem Hunt as well, Travis Kelsey mustache, not so much. There you go, that's just my power rankings for everybody to take it in right there. There we go, beautiful power rankings, Rich and Kurt Warner. Thanks for doing the show Andrew, thanks for doing the show while I'm here in London. Happy, happy to do it, always happy for the opportunity and grateful as well.

Have a great call my friend on Sunday. And we're still in the Roku here as well. Might have had the Broncos in 10, you know what I mean? The Broncos? Oh come on. They're a playoff team, really?

What do you mean? They're a playoff team. They're a playoff defense. They're a playoff team, they're literally in the playoffs if it started today.

But the playoffs don't actually start today. But they would. I was sitting there and they do not, right? Because I would, I would definitely, it would be weird for me to be in London. You should hurry home if they do, yeah.

No, they don't. I thought about it Chris. No, I really did think about it. I just, I just couldn't bring myself to it. I just still think the Cowboys. They beat the Bucks when they played each other. Understand, yeah.

Real quick, I saw the commanders in person last week. Jayden Daniels is the real deal. And what is different here is this is not a Cliff Kingsbury, hey, like let's go five wide and throwing first down and just chuck it down the field and nope, don't protect the quarterback.

They're going 12, they're going 13 personnel. Coming into the game, 75% of their first down calls were runs or screens. So they're protecting their quarterback. And he had that throw in the first quarter where he broke contain and then hit Terry McLaurin.

Now he eventually threw a pick in the red zone on that drive. But like, that is a wow throw. Wow. They're real, man.

They're real. Thanks for doing this show while I'm here in London, sir. Happy to do it. Enjoy the night.

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