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Learn more at AmericanExpress.com slash Amex Business. This is the Rich Eisen Show. Ladies and gentlemen, with guest host Andrew Siciliano. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Earlier on the show, NFL Network analyst Brian Baldinger, Vikings wide receiver Jalen Naylor. Coming up, MLB writer for The Athletic, Levi Weaver.
And now, sitting in for Rich, it's Andrew Siciliano. I am still reeling, I'll be honest with you. I am still trying to to refocus, get my bearings after TJ's story about a Twix in a Kansas City hotel room. If you're just joining us, good, you didn't miss. Man, stop being a hater, man.
I'm not a hater, I'm just trying to get rid of the visual. Last time I was in a Kansas City hotel room, I was bitten by a spider and needed antibiotics. See, that's a worse story than mine.
That sounds terrible. I just fell asleep. I just fell asleep. I mean, next time I go to Kansas City, I may sleep in the new airport there because it is fantastic. It is very nice. It is so much better than the old airport, where, true story, one day I showed up for a seven o'clock flight, went to the Starbucks, it was closed, the gate was down, like what? Major, major airport. The only coffee, the only coffee shop back in the day, the old airport. Where's, where's, where's the coffee? So I went to somebody else at a little kiosk, a little newsstand, and I said, hey, what's with the Starbucks? It's seven o'clock. The answer was, quote, oh, she called in sick for a big city airport. There was no coffee because, quote, she called in sick.
One person. That's the old Kansas City airport. The new one smells like, like, like rich mahogany. It's fantastic.
And I recommend you go there anyway. Chris Brockman. Hey, Jason is here. TJ is here.
My name is Andrew. Rich was in London. He still is in London. He joined us last hour. Let's talk baseball because we are celebrating. At least TJ is, his Mets knocking out the Phillies tonight. We're going to get the Yankees, trying to do the same to the Royals. We have a game five coming up as well tomorrow for the Padres and the Dodgers. And my guardians are facing elimination, but they will win tonight or this afternoon.
And they will force a game five coming up on Saturday market down because I'm optimistic. Okay. You should be as well. Levi Weaver writes baseball and does it well for the athletic. You should read the windup with Ken Rosenthal every day because I do. And Levi joins us now on the Rich Eisen Show. How are you, man? I'm good.
I feel like I got here just a little too late for some good Kansas City stories. Levi, I don't know that you really missed anything. You did, Levi. You did. Yeah. I don't know that you did.
It's just TJ falling asleep while eating a Twix bar and then waking up and then realizing that this doesn't look good because you rolled all over the Twix bar while in bed. And you can, are you painting? Can you paint that image? You're a wordsmith. Yeah. Okay.
Let's get like a cop right up. Paint that image. That is a fantastic, hold on. Before we talk baseball, I'm looking at your, your cork board behind you.
Last time he was on, we talked about this. It's tremendous. Break down that board last time. I'm trying to, I'm trying to, what's the best glaring there. Yeah, no, I get it. What's the best card up there.
He's got some good ones. Yeah. It's probably this.
I don't know if you guys can see that's a Bob Gibson rookie card. I see that. Wow. That's, that's the best way up there too. I do somewhere. I recently just rearranged this. So I know there's a Clemente up here somewhere. You know what?
We're going to, we're going to take too much time finding it, but there you go. I used to do this as a kid. I had the cork board in my bedroom and I was always concerned with like finding the right push pin size and not actually marring the card and putting the pin only through the plastic. It's an art. It really is.
You just, you just get the hard plastic ones and then you can pin down the edges of the plastic and it doesn't ever touch the card. Wow. We are some dorks. All right. With that said. I miss my cork board now. I'm looking at that like, man, bring them back.
Great memories. Levi, are we headed towards the Fox ultimate dream of a subway series? You know, maybe we are also headed for the Fox ultimate nightmare of like Padres tigers.
It can really go either way. I just remember back in the day when I worked in that building, Ed Gorin, whom I love dearly, um, would have that bottle of red in the control room, just waiting, waiting for that Yankees red Sox and waiting for the possibility of the Yankees and anyone in the world series. And we might get back to a, a Mets Yankees world series. Now the Yankees have work to do. And so do the Mets for that matter.
But Levi rich made the great point about 20 minutes ago. If we had told you that the Mets would be sitting there, just with their feet up smoking cigars, heard it was a late night last night as well. Good for them waiting to see who they get in the LCS.
What would you have said? Yeah, I mean, 10 days ago, they had to fly to Atlanta to play a doubleheader just to get into the playoffs. Like it took until after the last day of the season, the scheduled last day of the season, first even know if they were going to make the post season. And now here they are, the brewers are down, the Phillies are down, uh, and they're going to see either the Dodgers or the Padres. And by the way, either one of those is going to be a phenomenal matchup, just for different reasons, right? Like if they play the Padres, you have just vibes against vibes. That's going to be such an entertaining series. If it happens, if it's Mets Dodgers, you have a very clear underdog, like a David and Goliath, you got Otani and the, you know, however billion dollar off season that the Dodgers had, uh, we all expected them to be here. We did not expect the Mets to be here. And the other thing about the Mets is that they just, they've had like one whole home win.
And in the last 10 days, the rest have either been very close one run games, two run games, late comebacks, even their losses, the loss to the Phillies was a walk-off. It has just been like, we are getting spoiled. There's going to be a day next, you know, may or June when I'm bored and I'm watching, you know, okay.
And that's like a 10 to two blow out. And I'm just going to think back to like, remember, do you remember what it was like to watch baseball, just sitting on the edge of your seat, every pitch, just like, what's going to happen now? What's next? What are they going to do next? Sorry, with a McDonald's happy meal character as the new mascot in essence, which is just absurd.
Yeah. It's absurd. Talking to Levi Weaver here from the athletic. I'm curious watching the scene in San Diego the last couple of nights and look last night, Mookie Bands early home run, shut them up.
And then the game was never really in question. After the mid innings, what is the rest of baseball think? And I know what happened where, you know, they didn't want to talk to Ken Rosenthal a couple of nights ago. Like, but what, what is the rest of baseball think about the attitude, the swagger, everything that is Fernando Tatis and the Padres?
I feel like a few years ago, Tatis, there was this sort of, you know, oh, this freaking guy, you know, because he was so, so flashy. I really haven't heard a whole lot of that lately. Because I'm now writing the newsletter and I'm in the clubhouse less, I can't really give you like, oh, hey, finger on the pulse. What I've heard from players, I can tell you what I've heard from, I guess, you know, other writers and on social media and just, you know, myself watching the games.
I love it. I think he's one of the most fun players to watch in the entire sport. And here's the thing you can, if you root for him and he hits that big home run and he, you know, flips the bat, and that's not as uncommon as it used to be.
There are a whole lot more players that are playing with a bit more flair and a bit more panache. It's wonderful. You cannot help, but just be exhilarated by that. If you root against him and you see that and you're like, oh, this guy, he did that to my team.
Then the next time he gets out, then you enjoy that a little bit more. Like, I think it is good for the game. I think it's so much fun, but I've always been, I think sports are this, they should be this outlet for that, whatever it is in the human DNA that has that sort of like overt celebration in us that you really don't get to do in everyday life. Right?
Like you can't get the parking spot that the other guy was trying to get into and you step out and you're just like, ah, got it. You know, we, we keep that in in real life. I think sports are a great outlet for that. I think they should allow more celebrations in football. One guy score a touchdown, bring the props back. I don't, it's entertaining.
It's not hurting anybody. I love it. Yeah. I agree. I do think some of like the ridiculous chains in the dugout are exactly that ridiculous.
Like just because Miami years ago did a turnover chain didn't mean that it had to take over all of, all of both college and professional sports. I find some of those silly, but conversely, like Ohtani's emotion in the, after the home run in game one, right? Like you don't often see that from him. Like that was amazing. And I am here for that.
I'm here for the game five as well. I mean, obviously what's on the line for the Padres, who everyone in San Diego hates, you know, hates the whole LA everything, right? Although when you go to downtown San Diego, I think they, they, they try to make it more and more like, like sunset, like you're going out in Hollywood.
I'll just say that, but that's a whole different story there when it comes to bars and restaurants. And that's another story, but what's on the line here for the Dodgers potentially, if they get knocked out Levi by the Padres again, I'll just leave it open. Then what? Yeah.
I mean, it's sure going to sting. They, they definitely spent like more money than anyone's ever spent this last off season. And we just sort of expected, look, if they stay healthy, they're going to 120 games.
They didn't stay healthy. They got Kershaw on the injured list. They, I don't know, on the injured list, Tony Gonsel and hasn't pitched for them at all. They've got, Gavin stone is on the, on the injury. Like they have so many injured pitchers, even two of the guys that are pitching for the Walker Bueller and Yoshinobu Yamamoto have are coming back from injuries and don't really necessarily look like themselves.
Yamamoto is throwing three or four innings a start. So there is a lot on the line, but also if they lose nobody on the team is going to want to make excuses. And frankly, they need to address, like, why are our pitchers getting hurt so much?
It feels like it's, it's a sport wide epidemic and maybe more so in LA than anywhere else. But if they lose, we had, we had like one starting pitch, like, what do you want? On the flip side, if they lose and then Detroit wins and Detroit also just has one starting pitcher, that's not going to look good for them. So yeah, the stakes are high. The stakes are always high, but that's the thing with the playoffs.
It's a crapshoot. Baseball is, you know, you design your team with two goals in mind. One, design it for the marathon to get through this 162 game season and make the post season.
And then there's a little bit of a flip. It's less about depth and more about like, we need our top tier of guys to be healthy and perform. And it's such a small sample size compared, especially in the, the wildcard and division series around it's a five game series. You know, if you lose three games, which teams do all the time during the regular season, two far worse teams, I am of the opinion, you can put the Colorado Rockies in a five game series and once in a while, they're going to beat a team that's way, way better than them. It's just the nature of the playoffs.
Sure. And it's, what's fun. It's what's maddening as well. It's what makes the losing hurt that much more because as a fan, we were talking about this earlier, talking to Levi Weaver here from the athletic, you, you put six months every day of your life into rooting for a team that all of a sudden it's over so quickly.
I I'm personally dealing with that as well. I'm a guardians fan. I think they're going to win tonight and force the decisive Yom Kippur game five on Saturday, but that's just me. I'm curious again, what does the rest of baseball think about what I, I think honestly is a bit of over-managing. You knew the tigers were going to the bullpen game yesterday and you're burning pinch hitters in the first and second inning to deal with a lefty righty matchup. Now that had been discussed clearly part of the game plan, but I don't get putting guys in your lineup and not even letting them get and at bat, like, why are we, you know, it's going to be a low scoring game.
Why are you playing that game? And Steven votes a huge reason this team is here. All right. Not going to take away from his regular season success as a rookie manager.
It was amazing. But why are you doing that? Well, yeah, I get it. And it definitely seemed like a bit of a, an overreaction to the pitching chaos of the tigers. Right.
It is very strange. It's very unusual to see a guy get pinch hit for before his first at bat. On the flip side, like it's Will Brennan. I, and I don't mean this as any disrespect to Will Brennan, but is, is he a guy that you're going to really wish in the eighth or ninth inning that you had off the bench, you know, in a league where there is a DH now, you're not going to have to pinch hit for your pitcher.
So you don't really have to worry about that. I think it might have been as much for misdirection as anything else or like, okay, Will Brennan's starting this game. Aha, just kidding. You know, like the, the equivalent of an opener where you're going to get this guy, but for one inning, do I think it was the right move? Well, it didn't really pan out. I don't know that it would have mattered either way, but I mean, having Will Brennan available off the bench to pinch hit late in the game, wasn't really the difference between a win and a loss here.
So, and probably not, you know, Kyle, who was, was pinch hit for in the third inning. It's, it is perplexing. I, but I also know that Steven vote is much smarter about baseball than I am. There's, there's some of you that want to kind of defer to, to him. And also I just, I appreciate the, the urgency, right? Like it is the playoffs.
You, every game is a must win game. So if that's what you think you need to do to win a baseball game, let's see how it pans out. It, I don't feel like it backfired so much as I've seen other moves backfired this post-season where you leave a pitcher too long, you know, take him out too early. So it was, it was just a fun thing.
I personally do like Will Brennan's bad. I also liked the fact that in a huge outfield like Comerica, you potentially could have used him a little bit later. I think he's a better, obviously we know he's a better outfielder than Noel, but you're right. It didn't, it didn't matter down the stretch. It didn't, no one could get a hit. Someone's got to get a hit with a runner in scoring position. And it was David Fry actually who laced one with two men on in late innings.
That just, you know, nice play made it third. He actually had, had a good at bat there. What annoys me is that Menzardo was taken out of the lineup. I think most fans wanted to see him get three or four at bats, right? I mean, he's a guy that when he came back from the minors really did hit, he found his stroke. He had one of those throw the bat and scream at the dugout moments late in the season.
You wanted to see him get those, those ABs and, and you didn't regardless. I want to get back to the Mets here real quick. Not that it's only about the Mets here. Which team do you think they do prefer?
Good question. Because you're either getting, you know, chaotic feral baseball against this dignified juggernaut of the Dodgers, or you're getting chaotic feral baseball against also chaotic feral baseball, but maybe a little bit. In fact, let's just be honest, probably more talented, I think team in the Padres. And I say that more talented than the Mets. I don't know that the Padres, Dodgers, I don't know that that talent matchup is very close and has been a lot of fun to watch.
I think, I don't know, I that is such a great question. And I really don't know, do you match up your strength against another team that has the same strength? Do you match up your strength against a team that's just completely different? I think they probably would prefer the Dodgers just because the Dodgers starting pitching is thinner than the Padres.
Not that Dylan Cease has been, you know, great in the DS. That sounds strange to say that you would want the Dodgers over the Padres. But I think as far as the matchup goes, like anytime your strength is just, you know, vibes and energy, maybe you don't want a team whose strength is also vibes and energy who might be a little bit better at it than you are. Yeah, that's fascinating, actually. As we careen towards the Yankees and Mets, of course.
Yeah, I don't know who we are, but I don't know. That's one of those ones where as the fan of the small market team, I just want to go, okay, I'm through, which I won't, I'll watch. And I also read Levi Weaver, his column, the newsletter in the athletic every day for baseball.
It is the best. Check it out. The windup.
Levi, we appreciate you. Next time we want the full tour of every card on the wall. Look at that. Just it's so good. Look at that direction. So jealous. And we can see the ring light in everything. Look at that. I mean, that is, that is fantastic.
Hard cases. It's covered on my Jeter rookie card there. Oh, sorry about that. Yeah. Nice. Levi, we appreciate you, man. Enjoy the baseball today. Enjoy it.
All right, Levi. I have the same problem at home as well with the way my home setup is. I have footballs behind me in Lucite cases and all you just see is the reflection.
Looks like I have a giant halo on because I'm angelic, of course. Coming up, which three and two teams do we really believe in? Yes.
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I'm here because of that film. So why not have him as the godfather of your child? Absolutely.
Yeah. What is it like to have Ron Shelton as a godfather? I mean, as I got older and realized all the movies he had written and directed, it really, I mean, as I did what he does, it really became more of a resort. We get lunch a lot now.
And I really like the guy. He's amazing. How are you introduced him to Boulder?
How was that introduced to you? Well, I went to audition for Ron. I did really well. And then the agent says you did really well, but you got to go through. And so I, my, I, then I went out and met Kevin and pitched through, through the ball around with him.
So the catch that you had to conduct in order to get the gig was with Kevin Costner? Yes. Where?
Out at Warner Brothers Studios out in the Valley. Just on the lot? Yeah.
Outside of bungalow out there. Yeah. So people are driving their golf carts around you while you're trying to catch with Kevin Costner? Yeah. And I was like, okay, no, don't break any windows.
Cause you are Nuke La Loosh. You're supposed to throw it in any direction right there. You know, he was written as a lefty. Right. And Ron decided that, you know, he, he wanted me, so it turned into a right. That kind of ruined the movie though.
If only he was a lefty, that would have been really taken to the next level because you might not exist. You know, if you think about it, you boil it all down. I'm glad you got the part.
I'm glad you memorized your lines that day. Yeah. Wow.
That was a fast, that was a Nuke La Loosh fastball high and tight right there. It's the Rich Eisen Show everybody. I just made a horrible Broadcaster 101 mistake.
Horrible. There, there are certain things as a broadcaster you don't do. Like you always have to remember, for example, the mic is always on. Even if it isn't, you just have to assume that if you say something stupid, somebody is going to hear it. Right. And it may get out one day.
The mic is always on, things like that. Also, don't eat popcorn during a commercial. Because now it's in your teeth.
We can't get it out. I thought that when I saw you walk by. Well, you're eating a bag of popcorn. I was having a bag of popcorn. That's why I offered you a potato chat. You literally came over with your hand out and I'm like, I was a five-year-old, like, give me, and I gave you some popcorn.
That was hilarious because Andrew said something, he comes over to Chris and Chris is literally like, high five. And he's like, no, I'm like, no, I want some popcorn. I'm like, yo, there's bags in the back. No, I got to struggle. You couldn't have gave my man a kernel or two though? Come on. No, no. Come on. In retrospect. Anyway. Wow. What's going on? We got some yelling in the hallway.
There's also a lot of people outside. All right. Hey, so I'm sitting at the Rich Eisen Show desk, everybody. You know that by now. I'm trying to not get popcorn on this beautiful desk, which is furnished by Grainger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Grainger is the right product for you.
Call or click grainger.com or just stop by. So what have I told you? What have I told you? What if I told you that a third of the National Football League has three wins through five games? A third. Ten teams are three and two. And 11th is three and one because the Detroit Lions had that very odd week five bye as a three and one team. Not that it's odd that they have a bye week five in their three and one, but week five just seems a bit early for a team that isn't playing overseas. Do we really believe in many of the three win teams?
Let's ask that question out loud. There are four of them in the American Football Conference. I believe in the Ravens.
They are three and two. Although I do find it interesting that Dean Pease, who is kind of the Sugar Ray Leonard of defensive coordinators, he claims he's retired, but comes out of retirement every eight months. Dean Pease has now been called in to help Zach Orr because that defense clearly has issues. Look what Joe Burrow was able to do last week. Yeah, with Jayden Daniels up next.
I mean, that could get ugly for that unit. The Buffalo Bills are three and two. And I believe in the Bills, even with their defensive injuries and their offensive issues without the clear number one. Oh, now that's a problem.
It wasn't a problem a week ago, but now evidently it's a problem. I don't know that I believe in the Pittsburgh Steelers because I do think that this could be the last week for Justin Fields. Now they're in Vegas. It's not as if all of a sudden, Max Crosby and Christian, well, Christian Wilkins is out, but Max Crosby coming back, it's going to, you know, the Raiders are going to just beat them up. I think Justin Fields is going to make some plays, but if they lose in Vegas, if they lose, if they lose to the fight in Aiden O'Connell's, is it Russell Wilson time? I'm still not there yet on the Pittsburgh Steelers. You are much more bullish on the Denver Broncos than I am. Their defense is really good.
Pat Sertan is really good. Bo Nix has that bleep you coach swagger. I think he's got a little bit of whatever the it factor is.
Oh, he always did, and that's why he got drafted in the first round, but he doesn't, he's no longer the deer in headlights guy we saw the first couple of weeks. We agreed, and why, you know, look, you don't have a lot of their players in fantasy, I don't think, any of their receivers or running backs or anything, but I don't think that matters. It seems like they're a sum of the parts type team, and if Sean Payton and Bo Nix can be on the same page, I think they can make the playoffs for sure. You believe in them more than you believe in the two and two Chargers coming off a bye that have a fantastic defense through only four games, and they have Justin Herbert at quarterback.
I don't know what you're putting words into my mouth. I think, I think maybe the West can get three playoff teams. You do.
I do. I don't think Pittsburgh is going to hang on here, and so, you know, maybe another team slides up, but I'm with you. I have a lot of questions about Pittsburgh. The Chargers and Broncos is the sneaky good game of the week.
There are a couple of them. There's one of the NFC South, clearly the big one, the Ravens and the commanders. I think it's great that that region has that game and that rivalry or that that is a thing. I don't know if it is a rivalry, but this game makes it fun and interesting this week. The Chargers and the Broncos have the top two scoring defenses in the NFL.
This is one against two. The Broncos have won three consecutive games. First rookie quarterback in franchise history to do that.
John Elway didn't do that, but Bo Nix has. Now it's not all him, and Justin Herbert has a 90 passer rating in all four games. I couldn't care less about passer rating. If you look at the fantasy angle, he's thrown for like less than 180 every game. I don't think a single fantasy team in America is starting Justin Herbert this week.
All they do is run the ball and play defense, which is good enough to win. But you know, are you more of a Charger believer or a Raider? I'm sorry, a Charger believer or a Bronco believer? I think I skew a little bit Denver at the moment. And I would skew a little bit more Chargers only because they have Justin Herbert.
Only because. Who's been a little bit injury prone the last couple years. Who has been a lot injury prone, obviously. So that's in the AFC. In the NFC, everybody is three and two. I mean, pretty much. Seems like it.
Seems like it. You got the Vikings at the top. You got the commanders at four and one, and then you have the Falcons, the Seahawks, although that'll change.
They play tonight. The Lions at three and one, the Bears at three and two, the Bucks at three and two, the Cowboys at three and two, the Packers at three and two. I mean, you make sense of the NFC.
I like the Falcons. Bears three and two. I said Bears. You did?
Yeah, I did. Sorry. Matter of fact, I think the Bears are going to go to four and two. Oh, I think the Bears beat the Jaguars.
I think there's a lot going on in Jacksonville. Yeah. They got their first win. Yay.
Congratulations. I'm not going to, you know, factor the hurricane into this, but they are late arriving. How about that?
I think that may factor into it. The Bears have been there the entire time, there being London, that game on NFL network. Rich is calling it with Kurt Warner. And I believe Dale's and Whitech on the sideline. Steve Whitech on the sideline. I think the Bears do go to four and two. The sneaky good game of the week as well.
That's not getting the attention. Part of the reason is the quarterback, but it's Tampa at three and two against the Saints on a short week at two and three and a short week with Spencer Rattler at quarterback. If the Bucks go to four and two, Bucks and the Falcons battling for the top of that division. You have Mike Evans, one touchdown and 44 yards away from a hundred touchdowns and 12,000 yards. First ballot hole of the chamber, baby. Which is just bonkers.
But I am fascinated to see what Spencer Rattler does. Last year, we had three different fifth round quarterbacks start. Can you name them? Last year. Last year, there were three different quarterbacks selected in that year's fifth round. The 2023 fifth round start games. Can you name them?
Probably not. TJ, feel free to participate. That's a no. Go on, you name one of them. His name has already been mentioned on this show today. I'd imagine Tommy DeVito.
Not Tommy DeVito. He wasn't in the fifth round? Nope.
The fifth round? He's already mentioned on this show today. I have no idea. Dorian Thompson Robinson. Oh, okay. I wouldn't. Started for the Browns.
I wouldn't have forgotten about him. Okay, come on. DTR. Come on. Jake Browning?
Nope. Browning and Abel. Jake Browning's been in the league for five years.
I don't know. Clayton Toon. I mean, started a game for the Arizona Cardinals. They got like less than 100 yards of offense in Cleveland. Josh Dobbs? No, but before Josh Dobbs. I'm talking last year's fifth round.
Not last year. Rookies. Fifth round rookies. I should have been more specific.
Did Kellen Mondt, did he start a game? Fifth round rookies last year. Again, just answer your own question. Sharon Hall. Great.
BYU. Already forgot about all these guys. Josh Dobbs was a rookie. We're just throwing out names. Okay. There were like 80 starting quarterbacks last year.
Who the hell is Tim Horton? Exactly. I know that you got the Browns jersey at home with all the names on it, but come on.
No, I don't. By the way, can we look at the camera? Don't be a loser fan and do that. Like if I need to see one more broadcast or one more two years ago, look here's the jersey. Like shut up. Stop it.
Be more creative. You know what that jersey is? The jersey is all the quarterback names. That is the hat tap to Kevin Clark or tip of the cap to Kevin Clark who did this last week. And I texted him and said, yes, thank you. Right.
He did it with Joel McHale. That is the equivalent of the network in bump in Seattle of the fish market and the fish getting thrown. This shot's 10 years old. You haven't shot a new one in years. Show me something else. There are other things in Seattle. Show me Mount Rainier. Go climb the mountain.
You want some coffee getting made coffee? I see some beans, sushi restaurants there as well. There's so much more in Seattle. That's how anybody cares about this. Catching the fish though. It's not true.
It's cool. It's a touristy thing. We're tourists in the city. Show me something different. They show the pier for LA games and it's not close to SoFi.
And that's what I tweeted. And I said to Kevin, yes, last week as well into the Ferris wheel, man, only tourists go to the Ferris wheel on the Santa Monica Pier. I'm a 15 minutes away from it.
I've never been different. When we the locals go there, we're just going to Big Dean's downstairs to drink and watch football. I mean, maybe the best burger in town. Yes. Honestly. Is that the place I couldn't get in on Sunday?
I think, yeah. Couldn't couldn't find a parking spot. Well, you can't find parking.
It's not what you couldn't get in. It was a parking issue. Come on. It's a parking issue.
It's a long story. Parking issue. Big Dean's takes everybody. Like we all get it. It's a great bar. It's a great bar. No one goes to the Santa Monica Pier, but hey, it's the Lakers.
It's the Celtics. And here's a shot of a tourist trap 20 miles away. Right? Or, hey, look, it's the Dodgers at the ravine, the Dodgers and the Padres and the Santa Monica Pier. We digress. Right. SoFi and the, SoFi is a little bit closer, but still not there.
And the Santa Monica Pier. I got on a tangent here. I compared the Browns jersey with all the quarterbacks at Seattle Fish.
And then we went down. You get what I'm saying here. Okay. Anyway, so the other three and two teams or the other three win teams here, I told you the Steelers, the Lions and the Cowboys is obviously the one you circled this week, other than Ravens and commanders, Lions and Cowboys, Lions off a buy, Detroit's three and one Dallas is three and two. I'll say this right now. I believe in the Lions. I think they're a Superbowl team. I do not believe in the Cowboys.
And I'm not going to apologize for it. I give Dak credit. Played a great game last week. Great money on the table. Despite the turnovers, fourth down or rather fourth quarter drove him down the field.
Yup. Rico Dowdell makes plays. Jalen Tolbert makes plays.
Jalen Tolbert catches a touchdown one play after he caught that football someplace that felt very uncomfortable. Right? Yes.
Very uncomfortable. Yes. And Tyler Guyton, the rookie tackle, the left tackle from Oklahoma. If you saw his post game afterwards, he got hit right there. Like he, he thought it was so funny.
He got twisted. Right. And then if you notice Jalen Tolbert kind of tiptoeing because it hurt a play later, two minutes later, tiptoeing across the formation to get, to get around the linebacker and to come free for that touchdown.
But you could tell he was in some pain. So tip of the cap to Dak. Good for you. Yeah. I'm sorry. I just still don't believe in that. The entire defense is injured right now.
What about Green Bay buying Green Bay? Hmm. I am.
I am too. The run of the football, the run of the football. However, Jordan Love, Jordan Love is kind of a turnover machine. Like, have you seen Jordan Love's turnover numbers? High? High?
Yes. He has the lowest passer rating in the NFL this year when under pressure. Granted, he missed a couple of games here. Okay. But. Five picks. Jordan Love is averaging because it's 1.7 picks a game.
Again, he missed two, they won with Malik Willis. Right. But if you go average touchdowns per game and average picks per game, Jordan Love is leading the NFL, small sample size, in average touchdown passes per game.
2.7. He is leading the NFL in average interceptions per game as well. Yeah. He's trying.
Slightly skewed. He is trying. I do believe in the Packers ability to A, run the football and take the ball away because they lead the NFL in turnovers defensively.
14 takeaways. And I think Jordan Love can still play good football, but that's a great game as well. If Arizona can go up there to Green Bay this week, have you seen how well Kyler is playing?
Yes, you have. If they can go up there and win at San Francisco and then at Green Bay, I'm a Cardinal believer. And they're a three win team.
There are two and three. If they go to beat Green Bay is what I say. Yeah. I'm kind of a Cardinal believer as well. The three win teams I don't believe in? The Cowboys.
I just, I just don't. I believe in the Bucks, but Seattle. I do believe in Seattle. You like them tonight. I do like them tonight. I think they win tonight.
Yeah, I do. Now, I think the better question is, what are the two win teams that you believe in and you're not giving up on? Like, are you giving up on the Eagles? Are you giving up on the Saints?
I mentioned the Cardinals. I'm in no way giving up on them. Are you giving up on the Dolphins at two wins? Yeah.
Until two, it comes back. I am the Raiders. No, I saw him in person. I am in, in no way sold the Colts. I like Joe Flacco. He makes some fun. Makes him fun.
Makes him a lot of fun. Do I think they have staying power? Nah, not necessarily. Not with the way that defense is playing at all. Like, do you think Tua can come back and save Miami's season? I think if Tua comes back, yeah, they're all, all of a sudden a winning team. Yeah. But is Tua coming back? I can't, I can't guess that.
Can you? Seems likely. It seems likely, but when? I don't got an answer. Unclear. Unclear. As early as week eight, maybe after that.
Nothing you want to rush back either. I'll tell you right now, I'd vote for him for MVP. Really? I would. You did say that earlier.
I also don't have a vote. Yeah, it's like the Peyton Manning year. It's the Peyton Manning thing. Totally.
I'd vote for Tua 100%. Anyway, coming up, more on the Thursday night game. Sneaky big for the Niners. And it'll take a couple phone calls as well. Cool. Cool. Cool.
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Grainger, for the ones who get it done. This guy over there, Brockman with his Red Sox cap over there. Do you have the David Price sound that when he was bitching about David Price after the Yankees beat him up in, what was that, game two?
Play it, go for it, for Bill Burton. I want him to quit. I want him to retire on the spot. He's not going to. I didn't go that hard.
That's what I want. He was terrible. Part of you, so furious at David Price. I'm so furious. But you were kind of feeling good, though. Like you're getting it off your chest.
It was therapeutic. See what I'm saying? Is there something about- Name another sports fan that sees that guy- I don't know. Maybe I'm just a much more Sonny disposition type guy. Were you screaming marble? This is about him.
This is about how great he is. Now I see where this is going. I was confused.
You spoon fed it to me. I want to tell you, Rich, out of all the sports shows I go on, I think you are the nicest, most even-keeled, pleasant, respectful to other fan base. No, I just think it goes back to like the tea party. It goes all the way back to like you don't feel represented. You feel like you're taxed. You feel like a tax sports fan. You haven't been represented in the sports universe. It's always great when I have another teammate come into studio because I'm teamed up against two-on-one with the New York- Don't you hate any time like there's a big Boston game, what they show? They always show like lighthouses, lobster fishermen, and Paul Revere like, oh yeah, that's Massachusetts.
I didn't see- I never saw any of that. You know, who goes to a tourist attraction in your own city? Exactly. You only do it when relatives come to town. I want to go to the USS Constitution.
Oh, do you? Here's where Cheers is. You want to go stand in line down there? Have a great time. I'm going to go to a dive bar.
Where do you want to go next? You want to go to Cheers? Just to let you know, it doesn't look like that when you go inside. So just take a picture outside. If you're watching on the TV side, that is a great old Bill Burr bit about what we were talking about with the network rejoins.
Like, hey, here's what tourists think of when they think of your city. And now back to football. Yeah, some of those are rough and I truly do. I truly do believe that they need to get rid of the fish throwing at the market in Seattle. Show me something else. Have you done it? Have you done the fish? I've never thrown the- I've eaten fish in Seattle. I do that frequently. I eat a lot of fish.
I've never thrown a fish, nor have I thrown my meal back at a chef or a server while eating in Seattle. Let's go to the phones. Sully has been waiting patiently to make fun of Del Tufo. Sully waits patiently for anybody at the Rich Eisen Show.
TJJ, Sully, Brockman, what's good? Sully, what up? Andrew, like Del Tufo, I also met you in Hermosa Beach, except I wasn't riding my e-bike talking about how much exercise I'm doing up and down the Strand. I met you one beautiful day outside Amata's on 22nd. You couldn't have been any nicer to me.
Yes, I remember. And we took a photo to send to the boys that you're with. And TJ, congratulations to you and Grimace and all the Mets fans knocking out our other boy, McLovin's Phillies. Let's go. Buddy, let's go. Come on.
Let's go. I deserve this, Sully. Full disclosure, if I were to call McLovin, I'd say the opposite, TJ. I know how you do it, Sully.
I do. You should just call him and say, call him Andrew and see how he reacts. Well, I get in trouble when I call him McLovin because he's Perloff on the new show. Ah. And he doesn't want to be known as McLovin. But yet, when you hang out with McLovin, everyone screams McLovin at him.
So I don't know why I would have to call him Perloff. Andrew, I'm very glad to see you on TV again, man. I always enjoyed you being on the West Coast. I always loved watching you on the Red Zone and DirecTV's version because when I went to Boston one time and the Red Zone was on, I had no idea who was giving me the updates because you were my guy as far as I was concerned with the Red Zone. Sully, you're very kind. You're a gentleman.
The other one is done, obviously, by a friend of the program and NFL Network's own Scott Hansen. We worked together. Those, some of you may not know, we did the Olympics together. Fellow orange man? On Peacock.
Fellow orange man. Yes, absolutely. So yeah, there, now there's only one. There used to be two. Now there's one.
And yes, it is on every Sunday. Sully, are we excited for Drake May or what, kid? Let's go. Buddy, buddy, this is, this is the tab that we have to pay Brockman for all those championships is watching horrendous football for five weeks. And, you know, I'm excited to see what Drake May can do with whatever it is because at least it's something moving towards the future and not just sitting there watching Checkdown Charlie and, you know, look, Jacoby Brissett, God bless you.
I hope you get every single penny you deserve because you took a beating for five weeks. But come on, we've got the throwback Unis going, the pack Patriots, the Reds, Drake May, start in the new future. Brockman, let's go. I think, I think by Sunday, by kickoff, I'll have talked myself into Patriots money line. Let's go.
I think Sunday by kickoff, you'll talk your way into FedExing and next daying Drake May jerseys for cage. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I tried to buy one before the season.
They were, the youth kids were so all sold out. Really? Yeah. Wow.
You know, everyone's excited. I know. On a side note, Brockman, as much as I love him, had no time to come hang last weekend when he was here visiting, watching an unreal game of his Syracuse arm's length.
Blame Southwest. He couldn't make time to go to dinner with his boy. Sorry, bud. Couldn't make dinner. Sorry, bud. Couldn't make time.
I think they'll love him. Well, Sully, next time we'll do a brunch or a lunch at Martha's. All right, man? Buddy, I love you guys. Thank you for always entertaining me and being a very important part of my days. Andrew, it's great seeing you in the big chair. I love you all. Sully, thank you.
Sully. Martha's in Hermosa Beach. It is one of the few restaurants actually like on the beach, not, not near the beach.
Like basically, I mean, you can't jump into the sand from your table, but it may as well be that close. I don't know that one. You don't know that one?
No, I walk the strain all the time. I'm not, I have to look for that. 22nd. All right. Yeah, it's good. Like breakfast, lunch. It's not open necessarily for dinner.
You know where the bottle in is? Yes. Directly across the street. Ah. Ah, yes.
As we do South Bay restaurants here. I was just saying, conversations can be had off air. Off air. Real quick, amazing line here from Zach Rosenblatt, who covers, who covers the Jets, from Sauce Gardener, Ahmad Sauce Gardener, says that he deleted social media from his phone, too much negativity. And he only heard about Robert Sala being fired when his agent texted him and said, well, what do you think about the news? So he Googled jets and saw the news. That's amazing.
And also, Sauce is like, ah, you're just so innocent, little sauce. I don't know that I entirely believe that. Maybe not. I do believe they took, you know, X and the socials off his phone.
Plenty, plenty of players do that. It's a fun story. Totally do that. But the idea that he had, he Googled jets. And then, and then hit the news tab news. News about the Jets.
Yeah, I do love that, though. Really? Okay. Alex Long Island on the phone of the Rich Eisen Show. Hi, Alex. Hey, what's happening, guys? Yeah, I'm on Long Alex. Big Yankees fan. What's up, gang? So really, first of all, I wanted to commend you. There looks like a giant party behind you.
And Rich would have probably mentioned it, probably. Okay. So we're still at the DirecTV campus, AT&T DirecTV campus here. And there is some kind of, what is it, fair outside? Programmers fair.
Programming fair. So all like the networks and, you know, channels. Alex, I'm just impressed that we're eating popcorn from the back room, and we haven't snuck out during commercials to go take the food. Yeah, there is.
There usually is good food. That's going to come in nine minutes. I wanted to prank you guys and say, hey, I'm outside. Come outside. I mean, that's right out of David Lynch movie right there. Yeah.
Yeah. So New York's having obviously a great day today. I'm a huge Rangers fan as well.
We really put the spanking on the Penguins yesterday. But I'm a huge Yankees fan. We've been rooting for the Mets now. I don't know if that's a bad take. Like, do you? I would guess I would ask T.J., do you accept some Yankees fans rooting for the Mets right now while you guys go on this crazy run?
Interesting. I mean, I think that's a question better suited for actual people living in New York. I'm not sure what the temperature is between those two fan bases. But look, man, we're all inclusive. Everybody welcome. Get on board, man, because we need all the support.
Alex, let me ask you. So the Yankees were out and already eliminated. Would you be feeling this way about rooting for the Mets or would you be jealous that they're still alive? I would most likely be rooting for the for the Mets. I feel like I'm a Giants fan. I root for the Jets, too. But these fan bases, obviously, they're very prideful.
They haven't won that recently. So, yeah, being a Yankees, Giants, Rangers fan, like just an older gen that's seen some success. I do just I mean, we're all starving for something here in New York, you know, nicest New Yorker ever. Alex, everybody.
One percenter. Alex, we're in Long Island, are you? I'm in Comac, so the North Shore, like Suffolk border area.
It's not like about an hour train ride or about an hour and a half drive into the city. OK, I used to live on Long Beach, Long Island years ago. Oh, nice. Yeah.
You guys should continue this offline and see if you all went to high school together or something like that. Yeah. My cousin's a Mets fan, lives in Long Beach, and he's definitely a lot more receptive to me rooting for the Mets. But people in my poker group that they're telling me that all we have is Aaron Judge, Soto and a bag of baseballs. And I said, well, you have all these gimmicks. You have grimace. You have the pumpkin. You are gimmicky. Yeah.
All we all we have is the pinstripes and a bunch of dogs, man. Alex, we appreciate you. Have a great weekend. Let's go back. Wow. I left to you literally the nicest New Yorker I've ever met. Right. He has to be a transplant. I mean, there are many Cubs fans or White Sox fans and like, you know what? Sure.
I'm really happy for the Cubs. That person does not exist. Does not exist.
Out seems like my type of dude, man. It simply does not exist. That's great. I've never heard that before.
Now I've heard I'm rooting for the Subway series. Now that's different. Right. Right. Right.
What I've never heard. Yeah. You know what? I'm happy for them. I'm happy for that other team. I wish you well. No. I wish you well. Absolutely not. Those people generally don't exist. Usually I'm rooting for the meteor.
I was in Baltimore going, I'm really happy the Colts found their quarterback. Yeah. Right. You guys knock it.
But this world, especially now needs more people like that. I totally. I'm with you. With you on that.
I totally feel like either of you are. Sports hate is different than real hate. Thank you. I used to do that. I've done that bit before in the past. I just don't like to use the word hate because there really is too much of it in the world these days. I don't do the bit anymore, but I'm with you. Yeah.
Sports is a good form to get that negative energy out as long as you do it politely and don't throw things at people in right field and stuff like that. That's the problem. I mean, right.
Really? Hey, radio friends, you got my kill tomorrow. My name is Andrew. Thanks to Rich for letting me sit here. So long, everybody. Bingo. All right, Bill, we're recording now and please put your phone on silent. Oh, where is my phone? Let's go, man.
Get it together over there. Player. Go ahead. Pick on me the way that you want to. I would say that to my son. Just go.
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