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I feel that we had to go in a different direction. This is the Rich Eisen Show. With guest host, Andrew Siciliano. Another home run from Pita Lunceau. To Ron Homer, Fernando Tatis Jr. Earlier on the show, pro football-focused lead NFL draft analyst, Trevor Sycamore.
Coming up, Lions running back, David Montgomery. Fox Sports College football analyst, Bruce Feldman. And now, sitting in for Rich, it's Andrew Siciliano. Hey there, it is me today and tomorrow. Rich is in London. He shall be back soon as in next week.
Hope you're doing well. Thank you for being here. Trevor Sycamore joined us this last hour. Coming up in mere moments, David Montgomery, fresh off a bye.
Running back for the Detroit Lions. They are on their way this week to Dallas to play the Cowboys. Where hopefully, TJ, everyone remembers to rub their belly properly in front of the official. And we make sure this game comes out clean and may the best team win. Good to see you all.
Chris Brockman, TJ, Michael D'Amofio. Good to see you, man. It's been a minute. Missed you in Vegas over the weekend? I wish I could have gone there.
Vegas, obviously, the big Syracuse victory over UNLV. I, instead, I was back east with the Browns. They were in Washington. I could have gone on Friday night. Really kind of sort of wanted to, but figured because Washington is home, the family is there.
Would go a day early. Spent time with the family. Watched the guards game on Saturday afternoon. The shutout 7-0 in game one over the Tigers with the family, with my dad.
So I did that instead. But a good time had in Vegas. Good time was had by all. It is a fantastic stadium, Allegiant Stadium. For those who have not been there.
First time I've ever been, it is awesome. And they had fans only in the lower bowl. Which is cool.
Which is cool. Really loud. Really great energy.
Vibes. Tons of Syracuse fans made the trip. And so we had a lot of fun celebrating with the strangers. Wearing orange at Mandalay afterwards. Which is also fun.
You could walk right back across the bridge over the 15. There was a lot of orange there. The previous Sunday when the Browns were there, I was there for that one.
And I will say this. Raider fans want to push back, but we all in the building were in agreement. There was more orange in the building that day than there were black and silver.
It was a fact. So orange on Sunday. Orange on Friday.
Orange you're glad. The one thing about that building, and it is great. Getting out of it is a mess. If you're on foot, there is this idea, oh well, let's just walk down from the strip.
Which you can. There's the bridge over the 15 from the Mandalay. If you're on the west side of the strip, it's fantastic. Even the east side, just get to the Mandalay and walk.
It's great. But getting out of there. Whether it's an Uber or, oh, I'll just walk back to the Mandalay or the Excalibur and get a rideshare. Tough. Yeah, that is tough.
It is a mass of humanity and it is not ideal. But you want to come to Vegas? Your favorite team's going to Vegas? Go to a game? Go.
Done. It is fun. It's pretty cool.
Definitely do it. What's going on today? Aaron Rodgers is speaking.
Yeah. Today. He said he did not get Robert Salah fired. He is actually resentful of those remarks. It didn't happen. He did talk to Woody Johnson on Sunday after the game, or rather Monday, he said, regardless. He spoke to him, said he didn't tell him he's going to fire him. He didn't do it. He says it's a reminder of the personal and how horrible the side is of the business.
Family, obviously feels for Salah's family, said Salah was the reason he went there. He didn't deserve this, blah, blah, blah. But he repeatedly did say that the one thing this team needs is accountability. And he has said that before, and he said it again today.
And so there is your message. This team needs to be held accountable. Who needs to be held accountable?
What's going to change? Are players benched? Probably him.
He needs to be held accountable. Is there a change in play caller? We don't know if that's going to happen, but the reports have been that Salah was going to take those responsibilities yesterday away from Nathaniel Hackett. He would keep the title, but demote him in essence and give them to Todd Dowding.
It was called plays before, notably in Tennessee. I think that may still happen. How does Rogers feel about that?
I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. Also today, Kevin Stefanski says he is still calling plays in Cleveland.
That is not the unexpected outcome. I think it's also the right move. He is still doing that there in Cleveland. Drake May is the new starting quarterback for the New England Patriots. That was made official today by Jerrod Mayo.
Those are your major NFL headlines. And also Nico Collins is going on the reserve. He has the hammy injury, but it's now going to be a month, at least a month as the Texans put their number one guy and the guy that is leading the NFL in receiving. Good for him. He's kept it going. Got the contract and has kept it going. I don't like some other wide receivers who got the contract. They never kept it going.
This guy has. He is going on injured reserve. And that is a big blow here for the Texans, but they get the Patriots this week. Oh, come on. We're homecoming. Come on, man. Huh? We're a team's homecoming.
Where is this? You're just penciling a W. Oh no, I'm not. I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying that at all. We scored 10 points last week at home. 10? I'm excited to see Drake May.
I am. Daraque Maia, Andrew. Daraque Maia. Yeah, Daraque Maia.
What is that? His Daraque name from Game of Thrones? What are we talking about here?
I haven't seen it. That's his key and peel name. Daraque Maia. Keegan-Michael Key came in a few weeks ago and we gave him a bunch of names to read as Mr. Garvey. Yeah. And we came up like Lad McConkey.
Little DD, Mekong Kay. You got Blake Coram, Mike? Yeah, yeah. Blake Coram.
Coram is? Do you want to go to war, Balakie? No.
Because we could go to war. No. Balake Karum.
Balake Karum. And Drake May is Daraque Maia. Chase McLaughlin is Chasse McLaughlin. How did you not see this? This didn't make your algorithm?
I'm sorry. He was on this show. I know that he was on. I'll send it to you. It didn't make your algorithm? I just missed it.
It is pretty amazing. All right, hold on. Texting to you, right? What would he call Florida State quarterback DJ Uwe Ungerlei? You know, the thing is, Brother Mateo who plays linebacker for Oregon. I think the beauty in that skin is he takes names that are seemingly quote unquote normal sounding. I don't want to, you know. Right.
And they make them into something more than this. So DJ Uwe Ungerlei, his name is already tough to pronounce. Yes. I wrote the pronunciation of his name in a note when he was cubing Clemson like five schools ago just so I would always know how to say it. He is well traveled.
Yeah, definitely well traveled. All right, I'm going to send this to you, Andrew. Okay, thank you so much. In all seriousness, if you are in Florida or if you are anywhere where Hurricane Milton can get to you, please stay safe. Please take all the warnings from any and all officials and weather professionals. Seriously, be safe. Our thoughts are with each and every one of you. If you hear the sound of our voices, hopefully this is something to listen to. Not going to make it any better, but to keep you company at least and get out of there. Just get out of there.
Take it seriously. Please. Coming up in about 20 minutes, Bruce Feldman will be here ahead of some of the biggest college football games of the year, including, as we mentioned, Mateo Uwe Ungerlei, the Oregon Ducks hosting the Ohio State Buckeyes on NBC. It is that, I don't call it rare game, but it is those, look, we have a lot of games that we circle before the season that when you get there, like, eh, maybe not. And this goes for both college and the NFL.
Like they don't necessarily live up, live up to it by the time you get to that Saturday or Sunday in the fall. This one has, they are both undefeated. They are both in the top five. They are both seemingly destined for the college football playoff. Yeah. This one hopefully lives up to the hype because we got to game week with a clean sheet. Like we're here.
It looks good. Where do you come out on the college football playoff kind of lessening some of these regular season matchups? I don't think it's lessened them, but I do think that it obviously gives the team that loses the game. I don't think, I know it gives the team that loses the game.
They still have hope. Like I'm talking to my neighbor a couple of days ago. My neighbor, big SC guy, big SC booster. I used to teach at SC. He goes all over the place to follow SC.
He and his family. And after the loss of Minnesota, he was down to the dumps. And I'm like, but there's a chance. Like, yes, you have two losses unless, and yes, dropping from 11 to out of the top 25 is not ideal. And yeah, you got to run the table now, but I'm telling you, there is still a chance because you just got to be one of the 12. I know it's bad math.
Okay. And unlikely, but for teams that lose, you are still in it. And to me, that's realistic to me that that's how life that's how sport should be.
And it was a frustrating thing for me for years. And I think for all college football fans, this idea that unless you were in the SEC, you had to be perfect, right? Your season is over. If it was something other than perfect, unless you were in the SEC and you still could talk your way in because we're better than you. Oh, we play a really strong schedule. We're better than you. We can still get in if we don't have to be perfect because life is really tough on us. Like, and the idea that now other teams and other conferences don't have to be perfect unless, you know, maybe you're the group of five school that's trying to sneak in, right? Maybe you have to be perfect.
Not all the rules apply to everybody. I'm all for it. Brockman to answer your question. I like it. Don't you?
I do. I think it just, it keeps more teams involved. I'm just wondering if we're going to get a little bit more chaos and the ultimately the best team won't end up winning the championship, which is that what we really want? But is the best team only the team that's perfect at the end? Or is the best team?
In the old system and the BCS, the best team always won the championship for the most part. Really? I think so. Okay. But don't you think we're gonna find out who the best team is when we have the best teams playing each other? Yeah. Well, one versus two.
I mean, those are the two best teams and they would always play each other and the best team won the game. Okay. Does the best team always win the Super Bowl? Most of the time. Usually. Yeah. For the most part.
Okay. Except for 2007. Let's say a wild card team makes a run.
Are they not the best team? Yeah. But that's what you get with a tournament format. And what, I guess my question is why isn't this the same? Well, one versus two. If you had just had the two teams in the conferences play each other in the Super Bowl, you'd guaranteed the best team won the Super Bowl.
I mean. But having any type of tournament. Isn't always a tournament the best way? Isn't a tournament always the best way?
Yes. Well, when it's one game elimination. Like if you look at the NBA playoffs, the best team always wins the championship because it's a seven game series and the cream always rises to the top in that scenario. I've just never heard you during the NFL playoffs go, this format is really unfair. I don't think we're going to get the best team out of it.
No, because it's all we've ever known. And with college football, we're adjusting and adjusting and adjusting. So I always have contended that the BCS always got it right. One versus two always played each other and the best team always won. Interesting.
Now you open up to a tournament and weird things can happen. Well, you know what? Let's ask this guy's opinion. I mean, it's not what he thought he was going to talk about, but we'll do it. Iowa State's David Montgomery joins us. It's also the Detroit Lions. David Montgomery joins us here on behalf of scouting America.
We're going to get to that David. You just walked into, by the way, thanks for joining us. A college football conversation where Chris Brockman over here claims he doesn't think that the college football playoff format is right because the best team's not going to win. That doesn't make sense, does it? Tell him he's wrong. I'll say he's wrong, but I think whoever wins in advance is the best team.
Thank you. That's what I said. Like no one ever watches. I'm not trying to bring back bad memories. I thought you guys could have been the best team last year, but no one ever watches the Super Bowl and is like, man, I don't think the team that's raising the trophy is close to the best team.
They won the tournament, right? Right. Okay. Yeah, I'm with you on it. Thank you. See, we're on the same page. We're starting this off right. We appreciate you being here, man. You're back to football this week. You're back to Dallas.
The week five bye is weird, isn't it? Like, did you do anything like Hawaii or did you just get healthy? I got healthy, but I also, I took my son and my niece to Disney World.
Oh, that's awesome. How was that? Overwhelming. First time, first time down there, David. First time, first time in my, the entirety of my life, my son, he's 22 months old and he enjoyed the Airbnb more than he enjoyed Disney World. So next time I won't get any tickets, I'll just stay at the Airbnb.
Every parent says the same thing, like take your kids down there. Like, did you do like the, the, the character breakfast with the princesses and all, and all that? Do you do that? We, we did a little bit of that. We, um, at SeaWorld, we went to, uh, they did this super cool Sesame street, uh, like parade. It was awesome. Like they had the water going that my son was playing in the water.
My niece was playing in the water. And I don't know where you see, like, you see Bert dancing in a food costume, you know, just going down the street. I'm like, we need to watch this.
It's probably like a 20 minute show. It was super cool. I think that was probably the coolest part of the whole, uh, vacation. David, this, this is, this is the good stuff here.
Dancing Bert with water guns. I mean, this is fantastic. David Montgomery here of the Detroit lions as they get ready, uh, for a trip to Dallas, obviously, you know, what happened last time in Dallas has, has Ben Johnson or Dan Campbell addressed it this time?
Like everyone, uh, rubs their belly properly. Like we're, we're, we're doing everything the right way and we're going down there and beat the Cowboys. We're just going to go out and play our game and be preparing, um, for this team as we prepare for it.
Any other team last year was last year, whatever happened last year in the past. And we just focus on now. So, um, we're preparing for the Dallas Cowboys the best way that we can. And we, uh, we're excited to go on the show. David, how fun is this offense to plan? Uh, super fun, super fun. I think being a part of an offense where you got anybody in the game, that's liable to pop for a big one or a touchdown. I think it makes it super hard for people to prepare for.
And I think it's awesome to know, like we got everybody who want to be elite and be that guy challenging and taking everybody else around them to a different kind of level of play. I'm in wrong through a touchdown when last we saw you guys on the field, when are you going to get to throw one? Oh, that's a good question.
Hopefully in the near future. Was, was Jared trying to sell it? Cause he was kind of jogging, right? I mean, he, or was that just Jared at top speed trying to get to the pylon? Yeah, I love Jared to death, but that's probably his top speed because I thought maybe he was slow playing it to try to sell it. And then he's going to take off, but I didn't see a lot.
I don't know what the PFF grade was. I didn't see a lot of separation there from the defender. Yeah. If you look at the week before, when we played Arizona, um, you seem to get that first down, he was rolling like this, you know what I'm saying?
Like speed on it's just his own kind of speed, whatever happy and what makes them feel nice. I'm all for it. But yeah, we're talking to David Montgomery here from the Detroit lions. Who's here from scouting America. I promise to get to that in a second. One last thing, David, you now are a proud winner, two time winner this year, a friend of the program, Kyle Brant's, uh, scepter here for angry runs.
The one that you had in prime time on Monday night was just, was just bonkers. Take us through what it's like in those moments. Do you, do you disassociate? Like when you hit someone that hard, when you, when you know, you're in the middle of an angry run, what does that feel like? To be Frank?
I honestly didn't know. Like when I caught the ball, I had no expectations of him being there that fast. Um, but the first thing I thought in my head, like, all right, let me just protect myself.
And from there I just was running. And like that play wasn't a play without everybody else. So like, if, did you see Taylor Decker blocking like six people? You see like the main school run down the field, same round, like that plays only as good as everybody else around me. So I think like, yeah, I caught the ball and I made a couple guys miss.
That's cool. But I think like the real value in that place, like seeing those guys running hustle around me so that we can, you know, go drive the ball down the field. I think that's going to make that place so beautiful to me.
Because it's much different than me in my basement, doing it on Madden and jumping up and going, yeah, it's a lot different when you actually have to feel that collision. Um, do you have the scepter there or is it in the building? Uh, it's in the building. I'm actually trying to get it both of them hung up on my locker, like on both sides, almost looks like it's, uh, like the two fire, um, holding sectors in like, uh, the game of thrones. When you walk through like the castle, like I wanted to kind of look like that in my locker. So we trying to get in that vehicle together right now. Uh, I've been trying to get some of those little, um, you know, the little table double-sided tape.
I love the redecoration there. Go get in, go get another one. Um, I mentioned scouting America. You've been involved in scouting for a long, long time. Obviously, your kids are important to you here as well. Uh, tell me about scouting America, what you do still with them and how big of a role they've had in your life.
Yeah, the biggest role. Um, so my troop was two seven, seven, two in Cincinnati, Ohio. Um, my scout messages were the Dom Cullen and, um, Jim McMillan. Um, and they're too strong, um, formidable African-American men who took a risk on bringing a group of young men together to be challenged from what the society viewed us as already as being young African-American men to being men of a society who could change the trajectory of how we were seen. Um, without scouting, I don't know if I'd be where I'm at right now and it's like, um, you know, scouting was a foundation for me. It was a catalyst to my life and understanding, um, the, the, uh, foundational morals that it created, um, the leader, um, being able to have great integrity, being able to stand on something you believe, not falling for anything and being confident and having humility in who you are. So, um, I felt, and I believe that scouting brought that to me and, um, I respect everything that it's done for me and I would encourage every kid out there and every parent out there who has questions about scouting, you know, go visit beascout.org and go get information about it, um, so that you can learn, you know, be more informed on what scouting actually is opposed to, you know, form a perspective about what you think is not, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I think for me to be able to be involved and being able to be an ambassador, being a face for what scouting is, I think it's a humbling experience for me, but I also know I needed scouting in order for me to be who I am today. That's great. And you're an Eagle scout, right? I am. I am.
Yeah. Are there, are there any other Eagle scouts? Like is Dan Campbell an Eagle scout? That would be a cool one.
Anyone else in the building? I don't think DC's an Eagle scout. Um, he definitely fit the mold, but he a little rougher around the edge.
I think he could do it. And again, the, uh, the website is beascout, as you said, beascout.org. As you guys, uh, your group of scouts there, get ready to head down to Dallas to take on the Cowboys. David Montgomery, congratulations on a great start to the season. Uh, good luck this week. Thanks for joining us.
Hope our paths cross again sometime soon. Of course. Thank you. I got it.
David Montgomery, everyone from the Detroit Lions. Awesome. Great dude. Love it.
Absolute beast. Yeah. But I wonder like that, like, do you just black out? He's like, Nope. Didn't even realize it. Just like, Oh wow. Okay. That play was insane. That, that play was one. Yeah, absolutely.
It's one where you text your friends and say, you rewind it and you watch it 15 times. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I'm going to send that to Kyle and redecorate the locker there with the scepters.
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Yeah. Actually, the kid replaced my son. Now he's he's been taller than me. So he's going to be a lot taller than Michael B.
So it's gonna be like a rematch. Okay. So what would you say? We're just a few inches. I don't know.
Maybe orange. Okay, Mike, why don't you come over here? Would you mind seeing him?
Because we've got we've got our audio executive. Come on over here. Let's see what the what would the the the height discrepancy be here for Mike Del Tufo and Dolph Lundgren? Let's see. Yeah. Oh, you tell him like this. I must break you. Just hold on a minute. Let's just show the measure show. Show the tail. Show Mike Mike. Let's show let's show Mike's Mike's training regimen for the rumble in the gundo. Oh, yeah, right. Tuesday.
All seats are 20 bucks. We're splitting this. But he's been training. See, he's walking around.
What do you think? He's he's focused. He's got the beef coming up to hit the beef.
Well, he's got the rocky fingerless gloves, too. Oh, yeah. Now, this was a great video. Okay.
We got it all. Oh, wow. You give him a shot. What do you think, Dolph? It's not bad. It's good. Good beginning.
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Rumble in the gundo. It is the Rich Hyzen show, everybody. Rich is back on Monday in London this week for another NFL game there on NFL Network. I can't believe I forgot who the Bears are playing off the top of my head. It's the Jets. No, the Jags.
Thank you, Hoskins. The Jags. I know it's not the Jets. The Jets, obviously, are playing Monday night against the Bills. I will say this, too, like when you're working for only one team and you're not at NFL Network reading the international series promo 17 times an hour, you have blind spots when it comes to the schedule. That is one of them.
Anyway, I digress. I do not have a blind spot in the NFL Network when it comes to the biggest college football game of the year because it has been one that we have circled for months and months and months. And as we welcome in our good friend Bruce Feldman, it is great to see you from Fox Sports.
How are you, Bruce? This one has not like fallen off. It is what we thought.
It would be two top five teams in prime time, both with eyes on the playoffs, both undefeated Ohio State and Oregon. Like it's actually here and it's what we thought it would be. I hope so. You had a chance. I saw a little bit of doubt.
Yeah, here's my here's my problem. And I look the odds makers. It's only a three point spread for Ohio State. I think that it was in Columbus, which is not I think it would be somewhere between seven and 10. Austin is a tough place to play.
It's a great environment. Dylan Gabriel would have been my pick. He probably was going into the year to win the Heisman. You have a guy who's played a lot of football, great intangibles, leadership qualities. He's played a lot of big games.
He's accurate. The ball comes out of his hand fast. He's mobile. He's very savvy.
And all those things, he can light it up the rest of the way. So far, it's been shaky. You know, the offensive line wasn't very good in the first couple of games.
It was really shaky. But then what we've seen from him is he's had a bunch of red zone turnovers. I mean, three picks in the red zone.
That is concerning. He's going to play by far the best defense he's seen, most talented. I mean, Boise State gave him a game, but Boise State gave him a game because they have the best running back in college football, Ashton Genti. Boise State's defense is by, you know, roughly a middle of the pack defense in the Mountain West.
It's nothing like the athletes he's going to see in the front seven. Caleb Downs might be the best defensive player. It might be the best defense player in the country. I mean, they're going to be the best player in the country. I mean, the safety for Ohio State who is at Alabama doing amazing stuff. I love how we're not talking about him playing running back anymore. Because they have two great ones.
Yeah. They have two great running backs anyway. I mean, I think Ohio State, Ohio State is my preseason and current pick to win it all. I suspect we'll see Dylan Gabriel's best game. You know, maybe we'll see him keep the ball and run it more. They don't need him running against Idaho and Boise or Oregon State.
They may need them running the ball against the Buckeyes. You know, he's not a tiny quarterback. I mean, he's not Bryce Young, but he's also not Anthony Richardson. No, he's not.
We'll see. I was at the, I did the Oregon Boise State game. I was blown away.
We all were by Dylan Gabriel in our production meeting. I had never met the guy. He's mature. He's an adult. He is a leader.
He gets it both, I think, on a granule, both big and small. How about that, Andrew? I can't speak today. But the right side of the offensive line, obviously heading into that game was a bit of a mess. To me, there was a question, like, had Will Stein been telling him not to run? Like, because there have been some open lanes in the first couple of weeks that they hadn't taken. And he said, no, but they also want him to see it get the ball out quickly.
The red zone thing definitely concerns me. I think Will Howard can make plays against those corners as well. Those backs, I mean, Quinn-Shawn Judkins, his contact balance, his power is absurd. And what impressed me with Ohio State, too, those backs block, those wide receivers block. Those wide receivers are awesome. They block on the edge. I do think Ohio State is absolutely the better team. But Oregon, and we saw it in the Boise game, has the chance at any moment for those explosives. Now, do they get them as much as they want to these days?
I don't know. But they at any moment can go 90 yards in like that. I think they keep it close.
And I think the home stadium can be a factor. And I also don't know that we've seen the best of the Ohio State defense yet. We haven't. Our crew, big new crew, had them against Marshall, who's a solid group of five team. But Marshall actually did some decent things on offense.
It just didn't look like Ohio State was that dialed in. The most optimistic part for me, if I'm an Oregon fan, is Jordan Burch, former five star, edge rusher, big physical. He looks like he could be a first round talent.
Derek Harmon, who was formerly at Michigan State, big time three technique. Those guys are playing top 50 picks right now in the last few weeks. And Ohio State's O-line, which looks very much improved from last year, that last year was a struggle. These guys are good enough and really talented enough at Oregon, where they could cause some problems potentially.
Because I think they have the stuff to be a high level D-line, and we're starting to see some of it. But again, Chip Kelly gets a homecoming game, right? He was great at Oregon when he ran the offense. Now, he has never, and I would say including in the NFL with the Eagles or with the 49ers, had receivers quite like this, which may sound crazy to say it. He's had good slots and good tight ends, and he's obviously had terrific running backs. He's not had nothing like J.J. Smith, the 6'3", 220 pound freshman receiver. And he obviously had Deshaun, who could fly with the Eagles, but Deshaun was a much smaller receiver. I mean, the guys he has at Ohio State, and it's a bunch of them. It's like five or six guys. Will Howard's not C.J.
Schrabble. Will Howard's a big guy who can run and will run. And in that offense, it's a really good scheme. I think this is going to be a really interesting chess match between Chip Kelly's offense with a lot of firepower and a lot of weapons against an Oregon defense that has that also has speed. But they haven't, you know, they've seen Gente.
They haven't seen anything like they're going to see in terms of this group. I'm talking to Bruce Feldman here from Fox Sports, getting ready for the full schedule, obviously, on another college football weekend. But the Oregon-Ohio State game obviously is the big one here with the two top five teams, both of them undefeated. We're talking to Dan Landy before the Boise State game, and I specifically asked him, hey, did you bring in, let's say, Harmon, for example? Did you try to go big on the D line?
Did you try to go big on the D line? Because, hey, we're Big Ten now. Like, we know we're going to face Big Ten rushing offenses.
And maybe that's my dad's view of the Big Ten, but you get my point. And he said, no, you got to stop the run to win college football games or any football game. But this run game is different. I mean, Judkins and Henderson, they are different. And Will Howard's kind of like that, call it almost like a run game coordinator.
Chip Kelly said he is my run game coordinator. But the talent on the edge there with Tate, who would be a number one for most teams. They're like five number one receivers. They're all number ones.
It's crazy. And then Jermaine Smith, who they will all tell you is as talented a freshman as they've ever had at wide receiver. And that includes every NFL wide receiver right now for Ohio State. He practices like a 10-year vet. He blocks in practice.
He never takes his helmet off. He wants to be on punt block team. He could legitimately, do we agree, play in the NFL on a Sunday right now? Yeah, J.J. Smith is phenomenal. I mean, he is, you know, talking to Chip Kelly in the in the spring, people were like he was kind of guarded. Hey, maybe, you know, like they are they are awed by what he could do is 11 foot broad jump guy. He's he's stronger physically. You know, they loved Marvin Harrison Jr.. Obviously, the NFL did, too. Marvin wasn't as strong as this kid. He probably isn't as explosive as this kid. And he played at a high level and has, you know, insane work ethic.
And I mean, just I mean, I have a story coming out about him later this week about his focus and attention to detail. And it is rare. And look, Brian Hartline, who was a really good former receiver at Ohio State and an NFL receiver, has had the best receiver room in the in college football in a long time, might have a better receiver room than honestly, some some NFL teams usually don't have like three number ones, you know, whether and you look at the guys they've had there at one point. And now, you know, Jackson Smith and Jig was a terrific all around receiver.
You mentioned they all block. I think that's the culture of that room that he has got there. And then you add this guy just he's a rare, rare talent. Like a couple of weeks ago was the game Ryan Williams went national. You know, he's a super fast 17 year old receiver at Alabama when they beat Georgia in the kind of game of the season. You know, this could be the J.J. Smith, the catches he's already made, you know, made those catches before Ryan like an hour before Ryan Williams that night. Just not on quite as big a stage. Like, I mean, you know, like, again, not a knock on Caleb Downs.
I caught myself and go like, OK, come down. This is probably the most talented defensive player they got because I know who's on the other side of the ball, you know, and I just know what people say about him. They don't. He's just really different. And to say that, considering all the not just guys who played at Ohio State were terrific there. And then, I mean, the guys who were excelling in the NFL, I mean, like Terry Maclaurin, Terry Maclaurin, like they have guys who are like, check all the boxes in terms of like speed, separation, toughness, intangibles, work ethic, attention to detail.
Now you put it into this guy who's bigger and stronger and just different. Yeah. Everyone we talked to at Ohio State said, yeah, he's the best. Like all the names you just listed.
He's the best. And he doesn't turn 19 until the day before the Michigan game. Think about that. It's going to be quite an ugly birthday present.
More energizing. The day before the Michigan game. We got Penn State USC this week.
We're going to get to that one as well. SC's got two losses now. What happened against Minnesota happened? If they were on the table, do they have a shot? Can they still get in?
If they could. I mean, they were going to have Notre Dame late in the year. USC, you know, Penn State's undefeated. Penn State has a talented team. I don't know if, I think Penn State's a playoff team.
I don't know if they're a make noise in the playoff team. We'll see if their offense is truly different. Like, I think Andy Kotalnicki, the new offensive coordinator is a really good hire. He honestly does some of the similar stuff to what Chip does in terms of, you know, it's a lot of tackle over. You know, it's a lot of stuff that he throws at a defense.
And in college football, that's a handful. And he's got really good running backs. And, you know, the quarterback, Drew Aller, especially has played very well.
It's just, can he play very well on a big stage? As far as USC, you know, I thought last week felt like a step back, right? They went to Minnesota. Darius Tiller is a really good young running back who doesn't get enough attention. He looked great last week. You know, Rosemary, the quarterback for Minnesota is a transfer who's a good player and he's a good fit. And I felt like that was a PJ Fleck kind of game.
We're just going to, we're going to grind it out in a very much a big 10 kind of way. USC did not have Eric Gentry, who's like the storkish 6'6", 215 pound linebacker who made a lot of plays going in. They missed him last week. I thought last week was the first time USC's defense did not look dramatically better than it did last year.
It's still better. I don't want to dismiss after one shaky week, but I don't, you know, Gentry might not be back this year. I mean, he's had some, some significant injuries.
We'll see if he, you know, if he's able to go or not go, it's, it seems like there's a decent chance they might have to shut him down. You know, Kamari Ramsey is a terrific addition. He played for Danton Lynn at UCLA, came over. He's one of their best players. The area where USC is really lacking is both on the D line and especially on the O line. And I think Caleb could overcome some of that because he's Caleb and can do remarkable stuff, extending plays. Miller can hang in the pocket and Miller Moss is really good.
I feel like there are times where it just like, there's a lot on him. He's a quarterback and he's a really good quarterback and he's got, you know, Lincoln, Riley is a great play caller, but their margin for error is not that big right now. And I think this is because of what we talked about in Oregon.
I think this game is not getting enough attention. And obviously USC lost last week. I'm fascinated to see how Penn State travels, not from a fan standpoint, but like how their team does.
Cause this is a different test. I think Lincoln Riley will put some, give them some headaches. I just don't know if USC will be able to protect Miller because now you got Abdul Carter and Zane Durant is like really underrated. He's an explosive defensive tackle. He's like one of my freaks list guys who's playing lights out. Interested to see how USC responds after last week.
Real quick, we were talking before Brockman and I were, and Brockman had this attitude. I don't know if the best team's going to win. I'm like, well, it's a tournament. Like it, they don't, don't we almost ensure that the best team wins because they beat the other best team. Do we worry about that in the NFL? And therefore a tournament.
And that's what I said. I like, you never look at the Superbowl and go, oh, I don't know that the best team actually got through. Yes. And my point is, is that the Superbowl is not, has never ever been AFC winner, NFC, NFC one seed, AFC one seed. But does it have to be?
Yes. But college football has always been one, two, boom. You play for the title.
That's it. We often debate who one and two should be usually two who they should be. I guess my question is, do coaches view it differently this year? Like, is there a different attitude?
Oh my God, we lost, but Hey, we're still okay. I think there is something of we've seen teams go, Hey, we're just going to keep getting better. And I think there is something to is knowing you have potentially a little cushion to, to like snap hook one on the driving range, make you feel a little more comfortable, you know, as somebody who's snapped hook more than my share over the driving range. But I think there is something that like probably coaches are a little uncomfortable with because it is such a departure for, I'm not saying NFL head coaches aren't like this, but you have, you know, that always a vibe about college football head coaches are like, they were the small town sheriff and they were like all wound up on everything. And now all of a sudden, you know, you have an IL, they don't have as much control as they had before or anywhere near as much as control as they used to have. And now you have this other thing with dynamic with the playoff.
And I don't know if anybody has a great answer for that yet, right? Like you got Georgia, who is, you know, with Ohio state, the two most talented teams in the country, they have a really bad first half against Alabama, end up losing on the road. Their schedule's really tough. You know, they've had a bunch of off field issues, including this week with one of their better receivers.
I'm not saying the program's out of control. I'm just saying like they have a bunch of other tough games. I still think they're a playoff team, but I think, you know, the dynamic would probably feel differently. You know, they may be able to afford another loss and still go, you know, 10 and two, possibly 11 and two, if they win the SEC title game, if they get in it. But I think there's just a different feel to it, right? In terms of like, do you have a cushion?
Do you not? Like Notre Dame lost to NIU. That would have been, because it was a 14 playoff. Hey, you're done. You're done. You can't afford that. They might be able to afford it now. I don't think they can afford anything else. I mean, I think after that loss, if you lose somebody else and your schedule is not great and Florida State stinks this year, who's on their schedule.
And again, I just think that that's indicative of you have a lot of different people who have a lot of different realities right now. Yeah. Like in the NFL, let's say the Chiefs win. You know, you don't hear Bengal fans going, you know what? We beat them in September. We deserve to be.
You're not. They won, right? And in college football, you do have that sometimes. But to me, hey, if they make it through the playoff and they win, then they win.
Like it's fair for once, at least my opinion. You have a chance. Can you stick around for two more minutes? Okay. Coming up next, Kyle McCord for Heisman. Not really, but I'm going to ask Bruce, I'm going to ask Bruce, maybe he should.
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I was beaten this year. Yes. So my business manager is supposed to have the hat for us. He did not.
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The hat is supposed to read the following. I am going to listen to this. Okay. Hear this.
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That is for you only. I honestly did not want me to do that. I honestly can't have thought of anything else that you would do that would make me think that you would not have to follow through on your end of the wager, which is where an I should have gone to Michigan hat on the vaunted field of Notre Dame with touchdown Jesus behind you.
But do I let him out of that end of the bet now? He's pretty epic actually. And he nailed all the words. He grew up in the state of Michigan.
He should know them. I mean, that was like 40 years ago. I had to look them up to make sure I was saying it correctly for you. Also, I'm getting visions of like, it was your own practicing before he came out. It sounded rehearsed. That was great. That took a lot out of me. That was awesome.
That was awesome. Bruce Feldman just had a really big funny off the air. I was laughing and we're all laughing.
We'll get to that in a second. I'm Andrew. Uh, this is the rich eyes and show the rich eyes and show radio network. We're sitting at the rich eyes and show desk. It is furnished. Of course it is by Grainger with supplies and solutions for every industry.
Grainger has the right product for you call or click ranger.com or just stop by. We, we went to break and I said, Kyle McCord for Heisman. He is not going to be in the conversation. I don't think he's 300 to one for Heisman. Um, but it is great to have a Syracuse quarterback who's throwing touchdowns. And you were there in person when you talk to Bruce Feldman, when you talk to, um, those in the know, and those are already looking ahead to next year for the draft, how do they rank the quarterbacks?
It's an interesting field. There's a lot to like about like Jackson dart at old miss who's continued to get better. People love his, like his toughness.
They think his leadership qualities, he can run. He's athlete. He's got a good live arm. He's gotten better at, at cutting down the turnovers.
It's a, it's a, it's not last year's class by any stretch. So you got Chador Sanders who has a bad offensive line, but is tough and smart and accurate. Um, you certainly have, um, you know, back at Georgia who people really liked and he's had some shaky moments. He does not have a great group of receivers.
Obviously there's no Brock Bowers there anymore. There's nobody close to Ladd McConkie and he, you know, there right now, um, he's playing really good defenses often. Um, I, you know, people I talked to last year about this group coming up, thought he was the guy who could be first pick in the draft.
I'm not saying he can't be, but right now he's, it's been, it's been shaky. Um, there's a few other guys who are like kind of those every year. Now you go back to, to Joe Burrow, to Jayden Daniels. There's a guy who people are like, whoa, all of a sudden now he's a top five pick.
Nobody was talking about him a year earlier in that, in that kind of tone. And so you go through it and there's some guys like Connor Wegman is a, Wegman is a good example as Texas A&M looked really bad, got her, you know, got somebody else stepped in, Marcell Reed, younger quarterback who can run. And then last week he looked great when they blew out Missouri, he was a top 10 team at the time. Looked like the guy that some of the coaches I've talked to think, oh, he could actually be a first round talent.
You know, they saw it. And then you start kind of going through the list of quarterbacks who like have the chance. Quinn Ewers obviously played a lot of football. He's got a really good arm. I think he has continued to get better and better. Now he's, we're going to see him this weekend against a good defense from Oklahoma, probably one of the better defenses Oklahoma's had in the last 15 years. Um, he hasn't, you know, he's been hurt the last couple of weeks, but look really good, I thought, against Michigan. He's somebody who's definitely in the first round conversation. Arm talent's always been really good. I think people like the development of him all the way around. But is he in the top five conversation? I don't, you know, that I don't know. Yeah. I mean, I think, I think there's people who come away and this is not fair to him, but I think one of the things that, that is tough was when you get kind of tagged with what he got tagged coming out of high school, the, like, he was the highest ranked quarterback in the modern recruiting era.
And that's by like the internet sites. Um, it's not to say he wasn't talented, but also it's like, there's a lot of stuff that was kind of sort of unusual. He really didn't have a senior year. He ended up going up to Ohio State. You know, there's a lot of talk about the NIL situation that made, that was part of why he went up to Ohio State.
I don't think he really ever had a chance to compete for the job. It was kind of a weird, weird situation that ends up going back home to Texas, where I think he, I think it was a good move for him. He gets to work with SARC. He gets to work, you know, around some really good receivers, which obviously they've had and they still have now it's a different group. And you know, like it's all in front of him right now. You know, like the guy I saw against Michigan who has a talented defense with a lot, you know, a good D line and one, you know, high level cornerback.
He looked really good. I mean, if he keeps playing like that against the SEC defenses, who knows? You know, I mean, there's a bunch of guys who end up, who end up as top five quarterbacks.
Sometimes you're like, yeah, how did that happen in retrospect? You know, so I think there's way less talent. I think there are guys who don't throw it as well, who ended up in the top five before, you know, you know, again, I wouldn't give up on Beckett, Georgia. He's really smart and he's got a good arm. And I think he sees it well.
And I think they ask him to do some things, you know, again, it's not like one of these offenses where it's a pad your stats kind of system. So, you know, you got Chidor. I don't know, you know, Chidor is going to be an interesting evaluation because he has really good receivers, obviously with Jimmy Horn Jr. and Travis Hunter, but the offensive line is so bad and it's better now than it was. But it's still really bad.
Right. And there are, you know, the defense has gotten a lot better, but still he's taken a pounding. He's tough. He's smart. He throws a good deep ball. You have a wild card in in in Milro at Alabama, who's blazing fast. He's really strong. He's built like a running back or a linebacker. He throws a really good deep ball. And I think he's going to keep blossoming, blossoming with Kalen DeBoer.
He also has, you know, by all accounts, from what DeBoer told me, great work ethic. Stay there. We got a break. Bruce Feldman, everybody. Round of applause from Fox Sports. And we're still on the TV side here in Roku.
So let's do that as well. I cut you off. Finish that thought there on Chidor. Chidor, you know, like I think he's a first round quarterback. I know some people who've coached against him are kind of mixed. They've seen some some some bad stuff again. And some of the bad stuff is I just think he's just honestly like he's just gets like under assault in these games. Right. They don't run the ball well.
They may try to run it a little more now than they did before. But it's just such a different thing with him. You know, again, Dart wouldn't surprise me if he rocketed up draft boards. He's got a ton of talent. And, you know, he does have a good group of receivers. And Lane knows what he's doing offensively. Dart, I wouldn't I wouldn't sleep on Jackson Dart.
We got a minute left here. I got to see Ashton Gente in person at Oregon. We know what he did week one.
We know what he did last week as well. The guy is unreal at Boise State. However, can he win the Heisman?
It's going to be really tough. I mean, it's hard for any running back to win the Heisman. The highlights of him are remarkable. Him breaking six tackles. He's incredible. He's getting the ball.
Yeah. I mean, it's not like it's not like all of a sudden he's got Kellen Moore back there either. You know, it's I'm not saying he's a one man show, but you're watching him break six tackles and he's got great balance. He's super strong. He's explosive. He's got really good hands. I mean, talk to our friend Jim Nagy from the Senior Bowl. They really like him. There's a lot there's a lot to love about him. He's the best running back in college football. Whether you know, if you ask me, Travis Hunter should be the Heisman guy right now because he's just unicorn stuff.
But at the very least, Gente deserves to be, if he keeps up with this, you know, at the Heisman, you know, with one of those other three or four guys. Thank you for staying for two seconds. Thank you for everybody. All right, Bill, we're recording now and please put your phone on silent. Oh, where is my phone? Let's go, man. Get it together over there, player. Go ahead.
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