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J-Bo to the house, 70 yards from Jared Goff. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Pete Rose joining me here. Well, there's a lot of rules involved with Cooperstown, huh Pete?
I know what rule. Today's guest, host of the Greenlight podcast, Chris Long. Co-host of All the Smoke podcast, Matt Barnes. Sunday Night Football analyst, Chris Collinsworth.
49ers tackle, Trent Williams. And now, it's Rich Eisen. All right everybody, welcome to this edition of the Rich Eisen Show. We're live on the Roku channel and with this Rich Eisen Show terrestrial radio affiliate, Sirius XM Odyssey. Tune in and more. We say hello to anybody who's listening on our podcast version of the show, all three hours. As soon as this is done, Susie Schuster, Amy Trask, the latest episode of What the Football, Michael Irvin.
I believe it's toweled off from last Friday. He will be zooming into that program and podcast for everybody to listen to later on. Chris Brockman and I completed overreaction Monday after we were done yesterday.
And a lot of people I think are taking that show in for sure. Somebody tweeted out something oddly specific to one of the things that we talked about on that podcast. An hour after.
About an hour later. But listen, we're out there. We see everybody. And we hope that you are taking in the addition of overreaction Monday. And also, by the way, overreaction Monday on a Tuesday later on in this program.
We have four guests. Oh, baby. Yeah. Chris Long's going to join us first up to decipher everything that we've seen through four weeks of the NFL season. We're at the quarter post point, pretty much. Also in studio, joining us in hour number two, half of all the smoke. So I guess we're getting half the smoke later on. When Matt Barnes joins us, there's a new book out with Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson about all the smoke. He will be joining us fresh off of interviewing Kamala Harris for the latest episode of that program. Chris Collinsworth will slide in in hour number three.
And then Trent Williams will have our back in hour number three as well from the San Francisco 49ers. Good to see you over there, Christopher Brockman. How are you, sir?
How long do you think it does take Irv to towel off? Oh my gosh. He was...
I don't know, man. Worked with him for a long time. And it's just great. You know, Susie, as we all know, Michael was an invited guest at our wedding on her side of the aisle. All of my friends are like, Rich, is that Michael Irvin in your wedding party? Because she ran into him on the street or something? Is that how that story goes?
She saw him, but she knew him from Fox Sports, from the Del Tufo days. Yes. But was like, hey, what are you doing this weekend, right?
Yeah. He's like, I've got a tuxedo, electric blue tuxedo. Maybe he'll tell that story on what the football. Good to see you, Mikey D. Good to see you. TJ Jefferson. Just as we were getting set to record the overreaction Monday pod is when Francisco Lindor went yard in the top of the ninth inning and you were just going crazy here in this studio. So congrats to your Metropolitans. Thank you.
Thank you. Making the playoffs. You know, I... Then you didn't have to have the Cowboys lose three in a row to make it happen. How about that?
You know, there was a great announcer who once made a call and he said, go crazy folks, go crazy. Oh yeah. And that's what I did, you know.
You went full Jack Buck on us. Okay. Good to see you over there, TJ.
Thanks. We start this show on a Tuesday as always with our Monday night review presented by Lowe's. Two games to review just like last week. And we're going to focus mostly on the home teams here. I know the Seahawks attempted to join the Vikings and the Chiefs as the lone remaining undefeated teams in the National Football League through four weeks. And they brought in a defense that had held the three previous aerial attacks to less than 150 yards receiving, passing pardon me, less than 150 yards passing in all three of their wins. Last team to do that were the 1979 Pittsburgh Steelers. And that's who the Detroit Lions were dealing with coming in to this game.
Two and one, two and one, yes. But their passing attack had not looked like the passing attack or offense had not looked balanced enough. It had not looked on tilt like it did in previous seasons with Jared Goff. I guess all they needed was just to see the Seahawks in front of them because these teams have combined for 40 or more points or the Lions have combined for 71 points, 65 or more total points in the previous three matchups. And the Lions put a 40 burger on them. And the Lions looked like the Lions that can win the NFC at home last night. And this Lions team, man, when they're playing like this, I understand the Seahawks put points on the board.
Geno Smith had a hell of a night. He almost had 400 yards. But when the Lions play like this, when they get three rushing touchdowns, when they jam it down your gullet with David Montgomery, who now has had at least one rushing touchdowns in seven consecutive games dating back to last week 16. That ties the franchise record held by Billy Sims. Barry never even did it.
How about that? He's got 17 rushing touchdowns now. David Montgomery tied for the second most in the NFL in that span and Jameer Gibbs scored twice on the ground. Remember when everyone was wondering why the Lions were drafting Jameer Gibbs?
And I heard gutting off the set that night, the first round of the draft that night and hearing from a bunch of people saying the Lions beat a ton of teams with the punch for Jameer Gibbs. And Gibbs and Montgomery now have had at least one rushing touchdown together in the same game six times. They have 32 combined touchdowns since 2023. That's the fourth most in the NFL. And the Lions have now had three or more rushing touchdowns in a game five times since 2023.
That's the most in the entire league in that span. So that's their bread and butter along with unleashing my Michigan man in the direction of the quarterback. You look at the stats, only three quarterback hits for Hutchinson last night. Aiden had only three quarterback hits, but it seemed like he was in Geno Smith's face. And when he wasn't in his face, he threw the right tackle, trying to block him in his face or the left tackle wherever 97 was lined up. Jack Campbell, another first round. And you're wondering, why would they draft him? Oh, the guy from Iowa, one of our glue guys from back in the day.
That's right. He's playing really well. Terrianna Arnold's a little handsy. Troy Hickman said at one point they should tape his hands and put oven mitts on him during practice.
That was funny. So there, you know, there's things to clean up, but when you're running the ball like that and the David Montgomery catch from Jared Goff where he was hit and it looked like he would, he'd has to go down. He'd be chopped down, but instead he bounced off that hit and bounced off two more hits and then escaped three more tackles for a monster big gain. That's the Lions MO, the blue collar state of Michigan coming and hitting you. And that's the mentality that Dan Campbell wanted to bring.
And that's exactly the type of mentality that nobody thought Jared Goff would fit in hand and glove. Bambi from Cal by way of Los Angeles, the California kid. Oh, he's going to go to Detroit. They're going to eat him alive there.
No, sir. They chant his name there. They chant his name there. And last night, you can put it up on the screen. I see you've got it ready. This performance by Jared Goff is history. Most pass attempts in a game without an incompletion in the history of the NFL.
18 for 18. He's also the first quarterback in the NFL history. They perfect complete completion percentage that includes 292 yards passing, which is the most ever in a game in the history of the NFL with zero incompletions.
So there's that. And that's against a team that had not given up 150 yards passing to either of the first three quarterbacks they faced first time since the 79 Steelers to do that. That's the defense Jared Goff did it against. And then part and parcel of these Lions teams of hitting you in the mouth and maybe doing some great smart passing and some great efficiency is the goofy Dan Campbell moment that we all love.
As a matter of fact, Susie's the one who broke this news to me this morning. I did not know that Dan Campbell did not give a game ball to Jared Goff in the victorious locker room. 18 for 18, 292 yards.
Nobody's ever done that before. No game ball for him. Somebody, I guess, informed Dan Campbell of this leading to a great soundbite post game.
Yeah, well, I just gave the game ball to somebody else, so I feel awful right now. Well, I knew he played a heck of a game. I did not realize he was perfect. I did not know he was literally 18 for 18. But I knew he played really well.
You could feel it. And he really found his rhythm early. And I thought he was seeing the field, played with rhythm. He had to move a little bit in the pocket. I thought what really kickstarted him is he had to kind of move in the pocket, got spun around and hung with Jamo and hit him on the hook for the first down. It was big, man, because he was rolling after that. But just a number of huge throws, played with poise, got us in the right play. It was a heck of a play down in the red zone on the catch. Good throw by Saint.
Been working that. So I just thought it was excellent. Oh, yeah, that's right. As Joe Buck pointed out, Goff had more touchdown receptions than incompletions last night. He caught one from Saint, as you referred to. And if anybody's wondering, where did that 70-yard touchdown catch from Jamison Williams come from? Well, I was playing against him in our fantasy league, and everybody has their big nights against me.
Wow. You won this week. Thanks to Derek Henry. That said, you heard the word kickstart. Got to wonder, is this going to kickstart the Lions, right? In terms of looking like last year and feeling like it. They're on a bye, and then we'll get an answer. Does it kickstart the Lions? Because they come off their bye at Dallas, which by the way, interestingly enough, the Lions with that win last night are now seven and one in prime time since 2022. Best record in the NFL in that span. You know what their one loss is?
Right. That one in Dallas. Eligible and eligible.
Ineligible gates. And then at Minnesota, which is the only reason why Detroit's not in first place in that division. We see them against the Jets.
I'm calling that game, going to London after tomorrow's show. And at Green Bay, three road games for Detroit. Their only home game is against Tennessee. And as we learned last night, Tennessee has some parts.
Let's hit that. I feel for Miami, man. I feel for Miami. Seem to a tongue of my lowest stand there, sitting on injured reserve, knowing that there's a potentially uncertain future for him. Also knowing that there's two more games they're going to have to play without him because they injured reserved him in case he does want to play again. And I think he does. He looks like a guy who's with it.
He does look like a guy who's eager to come back. He went with the team to Seattle last week. And you just see how this offense is so struggling without him. The Dolphins are now the first team since the 2017 Browns to never lead through their first four games of the season.
The 2017 Browns finished 0-16, I might add. Tyreke Hill. Fewest yards in a game in his Dolphins career tied at 23 yards. He is invisible. Invisible. Doesn't help that Raheem Mostert is also out. Might be able to pound with him. Waddle dropped a ball.
Snoop Huntley looked lost. Already four different quarterbacks have touched a football for the Dolphins so far this season. The Titans got their first win of the season, and we'll talk about them later on. And I apologize to Titans fans who know I'm high on their team. I chose them as one of my sleep is my AFC sleeper team.
And they have got some parts, man. Taji Spears and Pollard and Dehop and Ridley. They did it without Jeffrey Simmons last night, too. Which would be helpful, one would think, for an offense that is struggling. As the Dolphins now rest under.500 through four games for the first time under Mike McDaniel, who is looking like a man in search.
Who is looking like a man in search of an answer that he knows is going to be elusive. You need significant changes to your offense, do you think? Yeah, I mean, everything's on the table. You can't argue that the offense is good. To me, in a situation like this, I haven't really been in one where we haven't had production consecutively like this.
So you really have to open your mind to really all things. Yeah, dating back to the second to last week, last season, the Dolphins are averaging 13 points a game. That's the third worst in that span. So it kind of leaks back to last season when things started going hanky for them.
But then this year as well. And the only thing I would push back on here, again, at one and three, is if there's any team, and I said the same thing, it's amazing that we're seeing another team in the same division deal with the same problem, but if there's a deal with the same problem and the same question, that is crystal 20-20 hindsight. To have hardly a backup plan at quarterback that you could count on. When you're starting quarterback in last year, in the case of Rogers, pushing 40 behind an offensive line that we were wondering could protect him, and we all know the answer to what happened there. I know Tua went through last season without a concussion problem. You signed him a $55 million a year deal, and Skyler Thompson did not really acquit himself all that well when he had playing time prior to Tua going through an entire season without having a concussion, thank goodness for him and the Dolphins.
But it's an easy look, an easy low-hanging fruit to pluck here. And I know he got hurt in Seattle, and then they released him, Mike White, they went with Tim Boyle, he wasn't the answer, so they plucked Stoup Huntley off of the practice squad in Baltimore, and he looked lost. I don't know, I mean, whatever Leflore did for Malik Willis, Mike McDaniel, who is a brilliant offensive mind, has got to figure something out for Stoup Huntley, and fast, and fast. They couldn't take advantage of a winless team being in their house without their best defensive player in front of them, and they got run over by Tage Spears and Tony Pollard, and that, you know, Bill Callahan coached Maulers up front. They got run over. They got run over, and so they couldn't take advantage of that situation with the Bills having just lost, and Miami's next games, I mean, they're at New England, and I have no idea what, that's a winnable game for you guys, but they can't, you can't put points on the board, right, you know, at all.
I honestly don't know the town where Moe Green doesn't have a plaque or a signpost or anything, what the O slash U will come up there. That might be one of the lowest ever of the season, and then they've got to buy, so 35, and then Tua, I believe his guy, he's got to sit four games, not four weeks. You're right, four games. So at Indianapolis, they're going to go in there again, and I don't know, can you depend on somebody who needed to be IR'd from a concussion? With his history, can you depend on that guy? Do you reach out for somebody else at the quarterback spot?
Because Skyler Thompson didn't look like the it guy either, and it's going to drip away fast. So I feel for the Dolphins, but they, this is a bed they kind of made with their quarterback roster. And it's an easy one to say, trust me, that's all Jets fans were pointing out last year, Zach Wilson ain't it, and that's your backup plan to the damn near 40-year-old who were wondering if he could be protected?
Like that was your plan? Which is why the Jets went and got Tarod Taylor on the spot, and I'm wondering if the Dolphins should figure out, I don't know what other team is going to cough up their second-string quarterback, even the Steelers. Everybody's like, oh it's Justin Fields. Everybody's one snap away from figuring out if their quarterback depth is appropriate or not. Right, Steelers are in a great position. I wouldn't, who's going to trade that guy away in week four to five?
Nobody. So red alert in South Florida to say the least, and that was our Monday Night Review presented by Lowe's, official partner of the NFL. It's easier to make the right calls with the right team, so kick off your next home improvement project with Lowe's.
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Chris, what do you have lined up here, sir? Yeah, I mean obviously that hurricane has devastated a lot of my neighbors, people that live near Virginia, East Tennessee, North Carolina, a lot of places that I've gone to camp, to drive through, to enjoy beautiful places with awesome people. In the event of a hurricane like this where there's flooding to the point where certain towns are wiped out. I mean like certain people are wondering right now where their loved ones are.
It's not just about you losing all your stuff, it's like you wake up and the main street of your town is gone. I think we all should do something to help out and so our podcast is going to donate to Team Rubicon and Team Rubicon is a veteran-led organization. I met this guy, Jake Wood, who I met him at the ESPYs. He was a veteran and played football at Wisconsin, played with Joe Thomas and I just was like this is a dude who's got it figured out. He started this Team Rubicon thing so that they can assist when there is a disaster, get boots on the ground, logistics, supplies, whatever needs to happen and by donating 25k our podcast is going to put a group of volunteers on the ground for weeks at a time. If you go to the Team Rubicon website or you want to donate or volunteer visit www.trusa.co forward slash chrislong. I think what they do is amazing work and it's work that's absolutely needed right now in Tennessee, in North Carolina, in parts of Virginia.
It is just awful. I can remember Rich, there was a hurricane way before I was around in 1969. The next county over, Nelson County, a similar situation where they got like 27 inches of rain a night and Hurricane Camille made landfall and these people in Appalachia don't really have a quick way out when 27 inches of rain comes down and over 100 people lost their lives that night and in the following couple days and people still talk about that. This is 50 years later and so these storms are storms that these folks are going to be recovering from for a long time but we just wanted to do something to blast this information out because Team Rubicon is a great choice if you want to give to a group that's putting boots on the ground to help directly and can distribute supplies and whatever people need in the moment. I think Jake's great. I think what they're doing is great so check them out.
Team Rubicon and if you follow that link www.trusa.co forward slash chrislong. You can find a way to help. I mean like $25, $50, $100 goes straight to local communities devastated by these storms and if you want to help out and match what we're doing, if there's somebody out there that wants to give a bunch of money, you can put boots on the ground for a couple weeks just in one fell swoop.
So check us out. Check out Team Rubicon and you know people's worlds got turned upside down rich and you know it's important to remind people like how lucky we are to not be on that end of that and it could be anybody but there are a lot of folks that are totally isolated, cut off right now from help and we got to help them. Yeah our radio audience just rejoined in the middle of your impassioned plea. Again trusa.co slash chrislong to donate and put boots on the ground throughout Appalachia, throughout all of these Hurricane Helene ravaged states and in terms of you know finding somebody who wants to donate, I'm raising my hand, all of us here we're going to put five grand in the kitty.
You're the man dude, I appreciate you. From here you know on our show because I'm seeing the devastation, I'm seeing these videos of homes just floating away, businesses being washed out, roads done and the infrastructure and folks sitting at home wondering how they're going to live, how they're going to make ends meet. It's just devastating and you know one day you got it, next night you don't and so again trusa.co slash chrislong to don't do all that and you're going to tweet it out too?
Yeah I'm going to post it right now with the link. Okay bud. So yeah you know just thinking of everybody who's affected by this hurricane whether it's in Florida or in my neck of the woods but you know Tennessee, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, the Carolinas, unbelievable. It's bad so we just, I mean there's no point in calling ourselves Americans if we're going to be like well that's a few states over. You know I think we can all help out a little bit like we're all on the same team here and I'm hoping that those folks get the care they need. Unity indeed sir. It's just beginning, it's just beginning. You know there's a lot of work to be done down the road and team Rubicon and groups like that are going to be getting that work done.
trusa.co slash chrislong for that. All right you know we've got about 10-15 minutes before we send you off to your gig inside the NFL so what are your takeaways from week four? I'll just give you that.
Throw it out there. Oh man. What's your prime takeaway here from week four? I thought about you off on Sunday night when the Bills were getting throttled by the Ravens and we laughed on the show last week when you were like are they the best team Chris? And I was like I'm wiggling out of that that that answer.
I am deflecting like I don't want to answer that question. Really about anybody right now because it is so hard to tell that's my takeaway is like you track a team week to week you try to apply the transitive property of this team beat that team therefore this much must happen. I think now more than ever it's it's just hard to tell especially because of the lack of the preseason new quarterbacks kind of taking over the lead.
Look at the NFC like the the top four or five teams in the NFC are led by you know a lot of retreads and a rookie phenom. You know like and I don't mean the word retread pejoratively I think Sam Darnold is the type of guy I've been pounding the table to get him on a good team and here he is and look what happens and I think Vikings are real man. I really okay or the internet just went down and I think what the uh stop believing the Vikings did the the Lions pull the plug on him?
Is that what it was? As soon as he's talking about the Vikings being real. We'll see what happens here on that front. I think maybe when he used the word pejorative it pejorative is a great word maybe that was no no no no the big word alert just blew up our blew up his uh his internet feed right there. Okay we'll get him back um let's take a phone call in the meantime while he's figuring out his internet um let's go to um mr and Puerto Rico.
Puerto Rico first and first up. How's it going? What's going on brother? I just wanted to get your guys's thoughts I got a quick what's more likely for you I know that uh my Niners our two and two record is kind of hurting the chances but what's more likely is Fred Warner the grown-ass man gonna win defensive player of the year or is Brock Terry going to be a finalist for MVP again? Oh man it's so tough for a linebacker to be a down pulled off it's so tough for a middle linebacker to be a defensive player there was that like Ray Lewis is the how many how many middle linebackers like right in the middle and I'm not talking about an edge rusher linebacker I'm not talking about that.
Yeah Urlacher, Keekley I think is the last one. Right yeah that's so rare I would take the I would take the Purdy one mister thank you for the call though we got our we got our guy Chris Long back here on the program um you there Chris? I'm back.
You there? I'm back yeah Rich I'm back. Yeah now you're on your phone I appreciate that you had your podcast set up but everything good? Everything's good we've got uh some technical difficulties here I'm gonna put my phone right where it needs to be this is like going to the backup quarterback. I like it I like it myself I was in the middle of talking about quarterbacks Rich I think it's so interesting that the NFC is kind of being led by these guys that we just didn't expect to be at the top of the the leaderboard uh usually there's a couple teams in the first quarter of the year that we look at and we say like that team might not be real but like things are flipped on their heads this year because of something like Christian McCaffrey now speculated to have like pendinitis in both uh Achilles like that's a big deal that seems like a developing story that might affect their ceiling um you talk about Kansas City losing Rashid Rice you know it's like they just got done figuring out last year and they tried to stick the landing on improving their circumstance and now they're kind of like not right back where they started but they're in a situation now where they're going to have to figure this thing out on the fly again and I think what's encouraging for them is the defense stepped up so these teams that have complementary football that they can play like San Francisco like Kansas City they're going to be in it longer they're going to have an opportunity to figure things out I was so impressed with Baltimore and what they did and just saying hey we're going to get big and make you load the box and you can't stop the run and if and if you load the box we're going to we're going to pop it over the linebackers heads you know we're going to play games with these linebackers that was the exact game plan I wanted to see from that group and for a team that in the playoffs last year just like forgot to run the football I was really impressed with their commitment to it and I think like I don't know how that game plays out if Derrick Henry look at his eyes bro all right look at that right look at the rain around him too I love this photograph it's the photograph of the year right now as far as I'm concerned through the first four weeks of the NFL I love it rich I don't think I've seen that photograph like who wants to tackle him nobody nobody and and what was crazy to me was the first play the game to find the whole game because once once he did that it kind of dictated the terms of the game and you know like are are is this team going to be more competitive next time they see the Ravens I think so they'll probably have Milano back you know they'll have Johnson back but that doesn't change the fact that you have to get in some some heavier sets defensively to slow these guys down and then you've got to be really disciplined with your eyes because they stress you from a horizontal leverage standpoint you know with the with the mesh and everything they have going on with with Lamar and everything he does and then they stress you vertically so there there's just leverage issues all over the field when you play these guys and oh yeah you got to tackle that that guy right there who took off and when he hit the 40 rich I don't think anybody caught him like I don't think anybody like I know nobody caught him but all these little people didn't gain a single like yard on him it was crazy I said on my show reminded me of the guy in San Diego that stole the tank and he has top cars chasing behind him and they look like ants it was crazy and they could catch him because what are they going to do when they catch up to the tank right look at his eyes so I was really impressed with them and then finally like the Jayden Daniels kid we're going on two weeks now of saying this kid's real he's real like he's absolutely real I don't know how good the team is but he's real oh he is real he because again you're seeing it rhythm right you're seeing smart decisions you're seeing good coaching and excellent execution by a youngin who is 100 percent grown up the throws he makes the decisions he makes the um the his I just hope he doesn't have a moment where he he kind of loses his sense of of self-protection you know like that that that that could be um a troubling moment you know and he had one of them against the Giants and that we had Dan Quinn on he definitely said he spoke to him about that self-preservation aspect of it Chris yeah I think like he's got to toe the line between it's it's funny that he's doing it in Washington where the last guy who was so talented there in RG3 and I'm not going to compare the two because they're different players but one thing they both have is an element of play extension and quarterback run game and they're both wiry you know and I think that's the thing about Jayden everybody's like oh you're skinny I don't want you to run but like don't lose that like don't lose his pocket the pocket presence the you know the ability early in a down to to say hey there's not going to be anything open in this look like maybe they're manned up maybe everybody's running this way and I can pick up an easy three and skirt out of bounds like my thing is learn how to fall learn how to get out of bounds and learn to pass up the big hit like I think Lamar does a really good job of that actually as a running quarterback I always say this I don't see Lamar get burped a lot and by burped I mean like is he getting up you know Jayden Daniels is a guy who the quarterback run for him is not the main focus because this guy's throwing the laces off the big skin but when you have a guy who's calm and collected on early downs and he can hit the big throws on third down and he can run the football like you really do have a guy with a full menu who stresses you and I feel like watching this team they're never behind the sticks right now and that's a that's a testament to Cliff Kingsbury who I mean Jared Goff had a great night last night you remember the whole you're good enough for Detroit thing yep you know that took a couple years to hear that uh Cliff got that you're good enough for Washington speech after the game a month into the season so while it might be Jayden Daniels that's the straw that serves a drink like having a coordinator hey listen I think Caleb Williams could be pretty good watching his tape but we're not going to find out what this guy calling plays you know um so there is something to be said for having a coordinator like that who um who was a bit of a distressed asset himself like people were like well you you're the reason Kyler Murray didn't work out and as the season starts and Kyler Murray looks damn good with petsing down there Cliff's going to the desert and you want to see if if he was the reason and you want to see if this this kid's real and he's absolutely real that their efficiency on second down is up near the top of the league so I was looking at like first second or third down to figure out why they seem like they're always ahead of the sticks not only are they one of the most efficient teams on second down I think the delta between them and the second best team in EPA on third down is like enormous well hold on so but so you're talking about you're not going to assess Caleb Williams in a similar vein as as Jayden Daniels because the guy was calling the plays in Chicago what are you seeing out of Shane Waldron's offense that gives you pause here Chris well a lot I mean I don't know what their identity is honestly I mean like I'm I'm not making an excuse to the kid because I don't think he's playing as well as Jayden Daniels like period and if you'd asked me coming out who the best quarterback was in this class I would have said Jayden Daniels and I told you if Chicago makes this trade you have to be ready for a little bit of a disappointment early where it's like you're not ready to win now like like you were ready to to build towards winning now last year if you had you know accepted some of the you know the assets you get out of that hall if you traded out of the pick and like maybe you could fortify your team and like as evidence like Justin Fields in the second half the other day Pittsburgh would ever say hey we don't have to wait to get down to use him I do think there's a starting quarterback in there and I think with Chicago's defense that team was ready to win this year but as long as you're willing to play the long game and that might include sifting through some scheme issues and some of the hey we couldn't get the o-line patched up even though people told me it was like the best situation in the history of football for rookie qb and then a couple rather than making excuses for the rookie um the rookie can do some special things I see it but you know in general I haven't seen him move the pocket enough I really like him throwing on the run I don't mean to be like kind of surface level but that's one thing that jumped out of me watching them the other day and then you know there are throws he could hit before the half in the red zone but I'm also watching them two weeks ago and when you're when your offensive coordinator is blocking a guy with a 94 number with a guy wearing an 11 like that's a problem down on the goal line and then when you're going speed option off of that into that look like I just don't know if they know what the identity of that offense is yet now swift had a good game the other day so it's something you build on but I think the commanders know who they are and they built the group knowing who they want to be and I think like there's a for instance I watched you know the Cincinnati game which I was like you rich like probably my jaw's on the floor yeah in the second half of that game watching him throw the football but you know what else they did they protected him you know the tackle that they grabbed a third in the third round um from tcu I think his name's Coleman it he did a really good job on Trey Hendrickson you know like they it was 2.86 time to time to pressure you know in in NFL terms that's a long time and so he's got all day they draft Luke McCaffrey they've had a nice connection they bring in Zach Ertz he's had a really good connection I mean Zach Ertz is a great player played in this game a long time he told me before the season started this guy's gonna be good he's gonna be good right away and so we hear a veteran like that talk about a guy like that I mean it just confirms that what you're seeing is real I'll put it this way and by the way you got Terry McLaurin who might be one of the most well-liked receivers in the game and everybody's felt for him catching the ball from a bunch of different guys he's waiting his whole career he's not a spring chicken anyways he's like 24 as a rookie I feel for him I want to see him catch the ball from somebody as great as him and watching him in that Cincinnati game I was just so happy for the organization as happy as a former eagle could be um and and frankly you know there's pieces like Frankie Louvou that you're bringing from Carolina it just seems like Dan Quinn and company did a really nice job and we kind of wrote them off relative to the excitement in Chicago and so I look at that and I say like it's interesting they traded away defensive pieces up front yeah chase young yeah it's yeah yeah more sweat yeah sweat but I look at this and I say are they are they one of these teams that that realized all of a sudden they might actually be good right now and maybe they're buyers on the on the defensive side of the ball before the deadline maybe so man maybe so they're three and one so they're they're leading the NFC East and I think they're the best team in the NFC East through four weeks and it's not just the record you could see it with the eye test as well they ran for 200 yards I know they they're they're they're killing it they're they're they're doing very well so before right now I'm not saying they stink stink but that was stinky so you know what I mean I'm not gonna make any excuses like I said it on my show the best the guy playing the best quarterback in the NFC East right now is is this rookie Jayden Daniels there's no doubt and then defense doesn't look that great right now so I mean like they're gonna watch out for this thing no doubt before I let you go so what did I say to you about the bills what did I say to you again like I said like like how I run it back here we go no no no no no no no how did what did I say to you again I said uh how did I put it Chris you go are the bills the best team in the AFC Chris now that's one way to put it just like just like you said it uh that's not the way I heard it on your your pod uh roll it set it to Rich Eisen he's like come on the show Tuesday and he's my boy I love rich I'm going on a show again tomorrow but he did the thing and I've imitated him five times now where he's like are the bills the best team in the AFC Chris and I'm like it's not even Halloween rich yeah I mean you went up a little higher like the higher the octave is that is that an imitation of me Chris is that I'm pretty good I've heard I've heard a couple times unsolicited rich that I'm pretty good at the Rich Eisen really right yeah it's it's it's a little bit of like the it's just something to think about here Chris just nibble on this question take a nibble maybe you want a big bite maybe you want to take a big bite out of the bills are the best team in the AFC week three and that's what I'm trying to avoid rich yeah that is the reason I felt so vindicated not that the bills lost because I want the bills to win I love the bills I love Joshua no you got it I love Lamar too I want everybody to win but on Sunday night I'm sitting there I'm like boy am I glad I pushed back okay I'm just I just okay the best team in the AFC Chris Chris Long everybody he does a great Rich Eisen apparently and he's just a great guy trusa.co slash Chris Long to donate to Team Rubicon on behalf of everybody who needs it in in the areas that have been ravaged by Hurricane Helene good people Chris we'll chat soon hey I appreciate you and thanks for the donation Rich you guys are the best it'll be it'll be there by end of 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Let's get into this Ray Fosse set to at home plate one of the greatest home run hitters of all time you replaced in that all-star game in 1970 right you didn't start that 70 all-star game Pete. You know I don't remember that Rich all I know is the game was in Cincinnati and all I know is I was friends with sudden Sam McDowell and I had dinner arrangers already made with Sudden Sam the night before and he called me about a week before and said they added Ray Fosse to the lineup could he go out to eat with us he was a rookie I said sure and we went out to eat we went back to my house and they stayed till about one o'clock and every question in the world about Johnny Bench because he was the next comment of Johnny Bench and if you watch the if you watch the tape I started to slide head first the ray had the plate blocked and I'm not going to break both my collarbones and you never slide if you can't reach the plate and I went over him and I tagged the plate with my right hand to say God's honest truth I guess my knee hit his shoulder I missed the next three games he didn't miss any and he went on to play nine more years so for all the people that said I ruined his career they don't know what the hell they're talking about so okay let's take this one at a time you dined with Ray Fosse the night before that's what you're saying I took him out to eat I took him to a place called Sycamore Shores which is a boat on the river down in Sailor Park where I went to grade school and you know to this day and I have no idea why Rich to this day Ray will not admit that he went out to eat with me and he will not admit that he went back to my house that's the truth and he won't do a card show with me really why do you think that is I don't know I don't know what because I've never bad mouth Ray Fosse because Ray Fosse was a was a good young player at the time and he's you know he's playing in the Buckeye state where I played all those years but I had to do what I had to do because my dad was in the stands if I just slide in and let him tag me we might be still playing that damn game I know may he rest in peace back here on the Rich Eisen show radio network we just saw a clip of Pete Rose on this program in 2017 recounting how he and Ray Fosse had dinner the night before he ran him over in the all-star game and Pete Rose going head first in a technical exhibition game because he was the ultimate competitor is I mean like I guess if you had a statue of him right you'd have him maybe in his famed batter stance from which he had the most hits in the history of the game and that crouch to lean right over or this what we're seeing on the screen right here him running over or him diving head first the helmet's coming up that's it the helmet's off that that may be the one right there where he's going head first and he's kind of got a look on his face like this is the most fun I've ever had in my life there actually is a statue of that in Cincinnati right and so you know that's that's it that's it right there I'm coming for you look at that and by the way I I'm I'm loving this because I know I'm gonna beat you yeah right yeah play more winning games than anyone right and in a in a genteel sport right he he he had some brass knuckles no doubt and he let you know I remember one of the sound bites he also gave us here on this program where he said something along the lines of you know golf is tough but what are these guys complaining about their ball's not moving that have them hit a ball that's moving that was his approach but you can't mention Pete Rose without everything else and you could make the case that in my lifetime 55 years there's never been a more flawed hero a more flawed all-time great and the man signed a document saying he did what he did he signed a document and he got banned for life and the man who banned him for life then passed away and he never made it in the hall of fame and I will I will always say this you know it's a hall of fame and museum should there be a plaque in the hall of fame with Pete Rose's name on it you bet there should and on the plaque just put what he did that's it and I think there would be a plaque in the hall of fame if Pete Rose did what Mickey Mantle did before he passed away when he said I had a problem with alcohol I had a problem with alcohol it ruined my family life I'm trying to make amends to a lot of people right now don't be like me if Pete Rose said I gambled you didn't even have to say gamble he didn't gamble on the Reds I mean we could sit here and say did he gamble on his team or not if he came out and said I am a gambler I'm a and I have a gambling problem don't be like me if he did that right away I think he'd have a plaque in the hall of fame for the last quarter century and forevermore and he could sit there and go well that's PR whatever but yeah yeah if he had come out and said I had a gambling problem I had a gambling problem that's it don't be like me and reach out if you have a gambling problem he'd be in the hall it took him years to admit he actually did bet yeah that's because he was selling a book all he had to do was that from the beginning it's such a shame in that regard because he is the best hitter and he was truly notable achievements you you they're they're too many to fit on a screen it'll never be broken we'll never see 42 56 broken he will have that forever forever and he won the first world series for the city of Philadelphia remember that the wheeze kids I'll never forget when he played first base for them and on the old turf in the vet after he had recorded the last night he would spike the spike the baseball on the ground oh yeah remember that he would spike it hot corner and cincy first base in philly just the greatest hitter ever and one of the most flawed heroes in the history of sports yeah I mean 42 56 that's never gonna bro I don't know if we're gonna see another 44 game hit streak to be honest that's true too 17 all-star games at a record five different positions that's probably not ever gonna get touched I would agree you know certainly in the day and age where you could make the argument the best offensive player in in the sport is a designated hitter yeah you know you can go back and forth between otani and and judge bobby whit but you were shaking your head you don't think if he came out early and said i'm a gambler that people would just say okay pete you you did your penance these baseball people are so they're so tight right chris about the rules of the game and i just don't it's the biggest one here's my here's my thing right with pete rose and gambling pete rose was known as the ultimate hustler right he gave everything to the charlie hustle he'd never cheated the game he he'd never cheated the game he never cheated in that bat he never cheated it now so i get it not condoning it but as his playing career was over he started to bet on games now my question is that this ultimate competitor the guy who had the ultimate nickname would he have ever bet on his team to lose but the question is we don't know the answer to it and baseball had a debt to rights and he signed a 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