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Now at number three of the Rich Eisen Show. This is the last day of the calendar year in which there will not be a football season with games that count. Because college football begins tomorrow in Ireland when Florida State and Georgia Tech play one another in Dublin. And then it's on and cracking.

This is it. This is the last day in which we're not going to be talking about a season where games don't count in the standings. I can't believe we made it.

It's fantastic. College football begins in earnest next weekend, Labor Day weekend. And then after that is the National Football League joining the party. Two weeks from today, we will be on the air in Kansas City because we're taking our show on the road there. And we will be in Kansas City talking about what happened in Arrowhead the night before.

That's two weeks from today. Man. Yes, sir. It's almost there. Good to see you over there, TJ Jefferson.

How are you? I mean, it's great to be seen. Mike Del Tufo is doing something else about something or other. No, I was checking something on an email. That's where my email machine is. I know it was something. My email machine.

Suzy Schuster sitting in Brockman's chair because he's doing some dumbass fantasy draft. Good to see you over there. How are you? Nice. How are you? I'm great. By the way, I don't denigrate fantasy drafts in general.

I just denigrate his. Brockman's. Because there's no time limit on it. I mean, what are we doing?

There's no time limit. We're in a best ball league. Joe Letrulio set it up a couple of years ago, invited. You and Brockman have a team together, TJ. I have a team.

Let's name drop. Rud's got a team. John Ham's got a team. Our friend Max Handelman has a team, Suzy. And Joe's got a team.

Everyone else you kind of don't know. Cooper's got four or five. Cooper's got four or five. Cooper. Well, he's not in this league, but the best ball is where you draft players and you don't pick anybody up. That's the team. When you're doing the draft is over. It's over. And it's eight hours per pick.

Per pick. Because sometimes because people are on the East Coast, West Coast, and sometimes you're on the clock while you're sleeping. Some people were in London last year. So while they were up, we were asleep.

These things were happening, right? And today there was a pick. There was a pick that was made by you and Brockman that you definitely had nothing to do with. I look I because this is the 19th and final the 19th choice of your team out of 20 that to be chosen. It was the 18th. 18th? Yeah. OK. Now, let me tell you, this truly actually happened.

It was about six in the morning, six thirty five this morning. And I'm looking at our list of who's left and the pickings are very slim. And I'm looking at Drake May and I'm staring at him and I'm like, well, I know Chris wants him.

I know he wants him. And then literally it just popped up. You drafted Drake. And I was like, OK, it's before you. You got no saying it clearly. I know. Well, that why not? Yeah.

Because he told me before he wanted them. So. Yeah. At any rate, that's what that's the league that we're in. And Chris and I have a team together in the Fantasy Footballers Podcast League last year. They haven't invited us back yet. I don't know if we have a space this year. I mean, you would know by now.

I don't know. We'll ask Jason Moore and Mike Wright, two of the fantasy footballers podcasters who are going to be in studio sitting in the chairs to my right. Technically, Rich, that was the we all three were in that together.

Oh, that's right. You were in it last year, too. You're in, buddy. We're all doing it again. Well, here's Brockman live at his dumbass fantasy draft.

There it is. How it started. Brockman on the left and how it's going on the right.

He looks great. I don't think it started yet. OK. His no time limit fantasy draft. So the thing I don't understand is that they have it in the town of the defending Super Bowl champs.

Which is kind of cool. Which is now back to back years in Kansas City. I was told he wasn't going to Kansas City for this because he's going to Kansas City with us in two weeks. But he still took today off anyway. I don't know where he is.

He went somewhere else to draft, I believe. Do we know where he is? I mean, he wouldn't volunteer that. He wouldn't volunteer that yesterday to quote. It's OK if he scheduled the day off and then isn't traveling, but didn't say I'll still do the show anyway. I'm fine with that. If he's trying to keep that for me, if he's sitting at home right now, I mean, I know where he is.

Where is he? Uh oh. Why are you saying? I'm not sure if I'm to disclose that.

OK. Should I text him and ask him? No, don't worry about it. You know what? Now I don't care. Now there's so much mystery, I don't care. You get to have me here. I have no complaints. You should be thrilled.

I am thrilled. Because you're about to do What's More Likely and he actually did the heavy lifting. I know. On that sort of thing.

Always. We'll get to What's More Likely in a second. Let's get to one more phone call. Charles in Idaho was first in, let's get him up here on the Rich Island Shore. What's up, Charles? He's up. Charles, you there? Oh my God.

It's so saddening to me when somebody holds on literally for two hours and five minutes and I'm like, all right, snoozing and losing. Do we have a number for him? Can we call him back? You know what, I mean, that's a white glove treatment. I don't know if Charles in Idaho is going to get.

Be honest with you. He's dropped. He's gone. Did you hang up on him? No, Adam picked it up. But I'm calling back.

That's so sad. Patrick in Baltimore. You're here on the Rich Island Shore. What's up, Patrick? Hey, Rich. Thanks for taking my call. Thanks for making it. What's on your mind?

I just want to go through the schedule of my beloved G-Man. Ah, so you're a giant fan sitting there in Ballmer. Is that right? I am. Parents are from New York originally. Okay.

That's Kepsey. Mom's from Lindenhurst. Okay. So there you go. So there we go. That's the lineage of why a man from Baltimore wants to play a win-loss game for the Giants. All right, first up, home for the Vikings. What happens? We start the year with a victory.

Ah-ha. At the commanders. Lost. One and one at the Browns. Lost. Home for the Cowboys on a Thursday night. Ugly loss. Ugly loss. Somebody else had a huge loss there. One and three at the Seahawks. Lost.

Oh, my goodness. Four-game losing streak, home for the Bengals. Another ugly loss. Five in a row.

They're one and five, home for Saquon strolling in now. Oh, Saquon scores four touchdowns. Giants lose. One and six at the Steelers on a Monday night. Steelers win on a last-second field goal.

Oh, my God. One and seven. Six straight losses. Seven straight losses. Home for the commanders. They're not going 0 and 6 in the division. This is a victory. All right.

Look at you rallying the troops. Two and seven, home for the – it's the Panthers in Munich. I'll be at the mic for that one. They lose, and then they bench Jones after.

Oh, my God. Two and eight. So, now, who's starting? Is it Drew Locke against the Buccaneers, you're saying?

Locke and Lode. Let's go. Okay. So, is that a win? Is that a way of saying win? It is a win. All right.

Look at you. They now have three wins at the Cowboys on Thanksgiving. That's another bad loss. That's a – wait, that's seven, eight. Three and nine, home for the Saints. That's a win. Four and nine, home for the Ravens. Lamar avenges his only loss to an NFC team. Four and ten at the Falcons. That's another loss. Four and 11, home for the Colts.

That's a loss. Four and 12 at the Eagles. Only two touchdowns for Saquon this time, but Giants still lose. Four and 13, you think the Giants are going, Patrick, huh? Yeah, their secondary is really bad, and I think Jones stinks.

Thank you very much. Patrick and Baltimore, they go four and 13. That might be first overall pick territory, wouldn't you think? That's what I was looking at. And then they'd be looking at a new quarterback.

I feel that that was – And maybe a new regime. I'm pretty sure that was Patrick's M.O. the entire time he was doing this game, was thinking he was going to get a new quarterback.

Could you imagine – this is craziness about fandom, right? You hold on for two hours to play a win-loss game and have your team go four and 13. So you think he feels better hanging up? He should. Okay. All right, Suze, you ready?

Yeah. Let's do it. What's more likely? Suzy, Suzer, and me. Here we go. What's more likely?

Never say never, but never. All right, Suze, what do you have? Hey, guys, how are you? What's up? Hey. What's up, Suze? Hey, guys, what's up? Suzy, I'm doing great. I'm continuing the tradition, unlike any other.

All right, guys, Colts playing the Bengals last night. The quarterback to finish in the top five in MVP this season, is it Anthony Richardson or Joe Burrow? Is he really asking that question? I mean, apparently.

What's more likely, Rich? To finish top five in MVP voting? Come on. It's Joey B. Hey, Joe. I mean, come on.

Take the guy who's gotten four career starts or three career starts or whatever the hell many career starts he had last year. Maybe, maybe he sniffs something. No, I know he's thinking about Richardson.

Listen, I think Richardson's going to have a very nice season, but top five in MVP voting, like we'll be seeing his name mentioned in advance of the NFL honors. It's Rockman. He just like said, twist it in there. Okay. No, thank you. No, thank you. I'll go Joe Burrow.

What do you got over there? The team that missed the 2023 playoffs to win their division in 2024, the Jaguars or the Falcons, Rich? Oh, I'll go the Falcons right now. I'll absolutely go the Falcons.

I mean, I got to give it up. I know the drafting of Pennix is still a head scratcher because you mess with the head of the guy you just gave a four year damn near $200 million contract to. No, he's envisioning ending his career in Atlanta. He's turning 36. He probably feels great about himself, but not probably. That's what he said on Tuesday. He's probably envisioning playing into his forties. And so you draft a kid who you know is already up against the clock because he's 24 years old. It didn't listen.

I don't want to relitigate everything. There's many reasons why that's a head scratcher. One of them was you've got the eighth overall pick. Take the top defensive player on the draft board.

You are the number one overall pick for a defensive player. And they went and they went down the road to get a quarterback. But they then signed Matthew Judon, who is way better than anybody they could have taken through that. Certainly for right now to win with Kirk Cousins right now.

You get Jude on what it was. It would have been Dallas Turner or Latu, who looked very nice for the Colts over the last couple of preseason games. And then they get Justin Simmons on top of it. I'm all in on the Falcons there to win their division. I got to agree with you.

As opposed to the Jaguars are in a tough spot with the Texans sitting at the top. Plus, I think this is Kyle Pitts here. It has to be, right? Oh, no, it does not have to be. It has to be. I mean, everyone was so high on this guy when he was coming out of college.

I mean, how does this work to have to be stuff? Cowboys have to go because they haven't gone to the NFC championship game for the last 27 years, right? Well, that's a lot different than one player. Rogers has got to play more than five snaps because of what happened to him last year, right? He's got to. Let's not go there, right?

What else? Kyle Pitts season. I mean, I can't even think about watching that opening drive with you. It'll be fine. It's going to be. It'll be fine. On the Aaron Westwood one and thus a stone cold sober. I'll be fine.

Otherwise, I'd be heavily medicated. All right, Rich. What's more likely the Niners make the Super Bowl or the Raiders make the playoffs? Oh, I'll go Raiders make the playoffs. That defense, man.

Yeah. Max Crosby, the Condor, along with Christian Wilkins is going to be stout. All we got to do is can we get 17 football, please?

His name is Devante Adams. He's very good at football. To say one team can perform well enough to be the seventh seed in the playoffs is just less likely than a team to repeat a Super Bowl appearance makes no sense. It's more likely that somebody could make the seventh seed after not making the playoffs the previous year, even where the quarterback that you have questions about, then winning your conference again. That is a tall order.

Despite how good the 49ers are, I'll go Raiders make the playoffs. Would be more likely. Of course, both can happen.

True that. Suze. All right. Regarding the Bills playing the Panthers, what rookie wide receiver who will have more yards and touchdowns, Keyon Coleman or Xavier LeGette?

Two of my new favorites. Well, I got LeGette in the best ball. We got Keyon. Oh, my goodness gracious. I just want both of these guys miked up every week. Right.

Love it. They're both hilarious. They're both funny. Do the Bills play the Panthers this year? That'd be fun to have them on the same field. I don't think they do. They do not.

They don't. I'll go Keyon Coleman. He's got the better quarterback with all due respect. I should have said that before I slagged on Bryce Young, but I'm sorry. Yeah, I'll go Keyon Coleman. He's got Josh Allen throwing to him.

Plus a whole new group of pass catchers there. Remember LeGette said that the Panthers told me that they're going to draft me and then the Panthers traded out of that last draft choice on opening night to let the Chiefs come in? Right. So they got him what? First pick in the second. Isn't that what happened? Yeah, they got him the top.

I know they got him the top pick in the second round. And then he had that quote, he said, we're going to pick you up at eight and goes, I'm going to be all ready. I love it. Fantastic. I love, I love both of these guys, man.

I'm excited to watch both of those receivers do their thing this year. Okay. What else you got? You got one more, Suze? I got three more. Oh wow. Okay.

Let me, let's get to it then. With the Dolphins playing the Bucks, Tyreek Hill to beat Noah Lyles in a race or Mike Evans to be the first ballot hall of Famer? Oh, I'll go Tyreek Hill beats Noah Lyles in a race. Being a first ballot hall of fame wide receiver is a tall order. You can go down the list of hall of fame wide receivers who are not first ballot and you be like, are you kidding me? You've got to be like Jerry Rice, Randy Moss type level to do that.

And sometimes that doesn't even work. Terrell Owens didn't get in on the first. Well, I think that's just, there were, there were personality issues when you got to, but that shouldn't count.

Well, there's still popularity. Um, you know, it shouldn't matter though. I understand it. But Mike Evans, I think we all agree.

He's definitely going to bust. I mean, whether you're first ballot? It's tough.

Yeah. Tyreek Hill beating Noah Lyles in a race. Let's see it. Cause Noah Lyles already came out and said that he would do it. He doesn't want to do a gimmick. So that means he won't do like a 60. He goes, if you're going to challenge the fastest man, it's gotta be the hundred.

Yeah. So he goes, let's, you know, get some sponsors. Let's let's go.

Maybe Roku Joe will be down to sponsor that series. The team to have the best wide receiver trio in the national football league, the Eagles, the Seahawks, the dolphins, or the Texans. What's more likely the Eagles getting Jahan Dotson the other day was really fascinating. What happened yesterday while I was out of the chair to see an inter in intra division trade like that, the Seahawks with DK and Lockett and Jackson Smith and Jigba, the dolphins got Odell in this mix now. And the Texans added Stefan Diggs to Dell and Collins and Collins. I'm going to go, Oh my gosh.

I'll go. I mean, is Odell going to be healthy all year? This is a great question. The best trio in the NFL.

I'll go dolphins, backs and barriers, put them over the top for you. I don't know. I just think that they've got the most explosive offense. I don't know.

I'd like the Texans. That's a great question. I mean, it really is just Collins and digs along with Dalton Schultz, even though he's not a, I just like, I mean, the dolphins are so fast. They're so good. Yeah.

You can't take, and there might be a third one other than Odell that we're not even referring to. Sue's last one up. You're going to like this one. Okay.

Thank you. What's more likely Aaron judge hit 70 Oh, tiny goes 50 50 or Ellie de la Cruz goes 25 75. I love it with the baseball gods, like judges so on fire. He's so on fire right now and he's on pace for 61. So I'll take him out of the 70 home run mix.

That's insane. I'm out of show. I believe as of right now is a Homer and a stolen base shy of 40 40.

So Ellie de la Cruz, I don't know where he is on the 25 75. I'll go. Oh, Tony. Oh, he's got 60 steals.

I'll go. Oh, Tony 22 bombs. So he's so 11 11 homers and 11 stolen bases between now and the end of the season. Are we taking Aaron judge for granted? I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm just hearing enough last three games, three home runs. He's unbelievable. Well, you certainly hear enough about him in our household. We do.

Okay. Um, I'm, I'm nervous that he's turning into our son's version of Don Mattingly, which is one of your all time favorite players. And he doesn't, Oh, I'll say in a world series, honestly, wow, I'm getting, I'm getting nervous about it. But then again, that's what being a fan is to be nervous, but I'll take Oh, Tony, I'll take Oh, Tony man. I can see hot September and well, he's three home runs away and 15 stolen bases, 15 stolen bases is a lot. It is, but it's Ellie.

Like it seems like every time he's picked him off last night at skeins, you know, skeins day. All right, let's take a break. The fantasy footballers are here. Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

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Jason Moore and Mike Reich. Good to see you. Nice to be here, man. It's good to be back. So we're at the hat trick now. That's right. Yeah, we are. Uh, did again, did Andy Holloway draw the short straw again or what happened here? Uh, I mean, cause we only have two chairs.

I always say that it's unfortunate. The only time since you're aware that we've ever added more chairs to our set is when we had the four Green Bay Packers who were in pitch perfect to, um, Clay Matthews. That was the only ones we added.

They were offensive lemons. So we had, we had two chairs behind them. We got to get to five before we can get Andy on five performances. Um, yeah, but we just kind of established dominance, you know, we're like understood. We just let Andy know we, this is our show. I mean, it's your show. No, I appreciate that.

And speaking of dominance, sort of like us in your fantasy later in the regular season. Well, as he qualifies it, did you, did you win? We did not. I did not win. We did not win.

We didn't win either. So we're all losers. You coming back? Oh, you open invitation. Of course. Run it back.

Yes. We'll run it back. We'll run it back. We'll, we'll, we'll do it. When is the draft? We're going to be singing before kickoff. Before kickoff.

That's about it. That's a promise. We're mostly available. We're, we're going to be in Kansas city starting the Wednesday before the season.

So we're doing shows. I've heard you're a master of the slow draft now. Oh gosh. I cannot stand slow drafts. Literally cannot stand them. I have no patience for a draft that takes over an hour at all. I'm sorry to say.

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How are you? Get ready. Yes.

Yeah. We're ready for football. This is the time where stuff's going crazy for us. And I mean, what's the, we always say everyone's undefeated right now.

So the, the buzz in the air is, is you can feel it. Okay. So our, our questions are always the same but I need to, I need to throw out there. Most people do you find play PPR leagues or they do not play PPR? The majority are in some form of PPR. I think the standard, even though it's called standard is kind of dying. All the leads that we try to play in and do are half PPR. Okay.

I feel like it doesn't overvalue the whole like screen for zero yards thing, but you still get value for the passing and the NFL this, you know, that's is a passing league now. Okay. So that's, that, that should inform everybody about the questions that I'm about to ask. First overall pick is uniformly Christian McCaffrey. Yeah. Yeah. No doubt. He lapsed the field. It's, it's one of those whenever you've got anyone within a position that gaps second place and, and predictably so if, if he's on the field, he's going to be the number one. Okay. So McCaffrey is the number one guy.

Yeah. And Cooper Eisen has a second overall position on Sunday. And for all the second overall position players out there, you would choose who? So I mean, it's, we always recommend kind of know where you're going with your draft.

What does that mean? As in like players in the middle rounds, which positions do you feel stronger about? Like there's a really group, there's a group of wide receivers that I like in this area. So I know that I will get some of them. Well then maybe I'm going to start with Breece or Bijan at the number two, or maybe there's running backs that I like later. For 13 year olds who might not have that mentality of looking down the road and mapping out sixth round draft strategies. Dude, this is what you got to do.

You got to get into the weeds. I'm going Tyreek there. It's between him and Seedy, but you know, one of them is playing football right now and I, that's a big tie breaker for me.

I like, I like when my guys are here to not playing, to not playing, not practicing, not being on the field. But I think that seals it for Cooper, Suze, that, um, cause he's, he's thinking Tyreek. That's what he's been talking to us about for two reasons. One he had Bijan last year and he's, he's got, got the burns, what I get, what he's got BTSD, he's got Bijan.

But Arthur's gone now. I understand that, but he just, you know how it works. How often do you choose a player first overall in your draft? Not just number one overall, but he'd use a first round pick on in consecutive drafts after they have sorely disappointed you. Zero percent.

Zero, zero percent. You just can't, you can't do that. We're humans. The, the Christian McCaffrey years after, after the two back to back years of season ending injury and we had to be on the mics like, I would still, you have to talk quietly of like, I would still take Christian McCaffrey number one and everyone's like, no, he's, he's a bum. He's always hurt. Like, but he's a really good player. And then guess, guess who's an iron man now? Christian McCaffrey.

Yeah. And so the other choice that he wouldn't make, um, second overall that you mentioned, Mike. Um, and again, I don't know if it's his mother's influence or he's for being a Patriot fan. He just won't trust it yet. It's not a bad way to go. He just won't.

But I said to him, and this has nothing to do with, with my upbringing or any way, shape or form. Breece Hall had a thousand yards rushing last year in the dumpster of dumpsters, the fire, the fieriest of dumpsters. And um, but I think Tyreek would be the way to go, right? Certainly if you're in a PPR league, you got to do something.

Yeah, I think so. And the next pick that's going to come back around to him, there's still some really good running backs there. Devon A. Chan is there, uh, Isaiah Pacheco is there. You would use the 19th overall pick in a draft on Devon A. Chan? I would, but probably not if I went Tyreek first. Two dolphins, you know, they're both not going to score on the same play, but that is a player I'm targeting there personally.

I like Devon A. Chan. He is risky. He's smaller. He's undersized, could get injured, but he's also one of those rare guys that if he gets the volume, he could break fantasy. He could be one of those guys that's like, oh man, you just ask yourself every time when you're playing a matchup and you look at the other team's players and you go, oh no, you know, that guy that you just don't want to play against. And to me, I think Devon A. Chan will develop into that type of player where you're like, he could put up 40 points this week. Mike, give me a name of a player similar to that second, third round running back wide receiver that some folks might say you're, you're overdrafting, but you believe in, and that that's a good spot. Certainly since, you know, in a snake, you might not have another shot at, you might overdraft in that spot because you're not going to be picking again till like what, 30, 40. Right, right, right.

Yeah. For me, for me, that guy is Nico Collins of the Houston Texans. The like, I think we all universally agree and love the Houston Texans, as you can see from where their wide receivers are all being drafted and, and Stroud is, last I saw was the fifth quarterback going in ADP, which is like, that's a real big jump for a player who hasn't completely shown it, you know, especially compared to like Jordan Love who was better than Stroud last year for fantasy and yet Jordan Love is left as the QB 10 or so. But for me, the, Nico was one of those players that when we're doing, we're watching them play in his first couple of years where there's nothing going on, you just, you see the tiny glimpses of it and you hold out the hope. We always compare it to when Robert Woods was on the Buffalo Bills and nothing was happening for him and you're like, no, there's something there. There's magic with this player. He just needs to get into the right situation.

Robert Woods goes to the Rams, becomes a fantasy superstar for a few years. I have the belief that Nico will remain the number one. I mean, they gave him that big bag of money. They didn't have to. It was smart, in my opinion, because now they don't have to play this game that all the other superstar wide receivers are playing. Right now they said, Nico, here's, here's enough money. You take that.

You come be our number one. We have huge concerns that does Staphon Diggs still have it of when the offense changed for Buffalo halfway through the year, he, I mean, he vanished. That was a, that was a vanishing in fantasy football that I can't remember where an elite player is halfway through the year, doesn't get hurt, just stops producing and it gets phased out of the offense. We do like Tankdale quite a bit on our show, but for me, Nico, I think is locked in as the number one guy.

Who other than A-Chan is that guy for you then? I, I, I would say Isaiah Pacheco is, he's locked into a three down role. Jerick McKinnon's not coming back. He's playing for a team in the Chiefs that I think are being undervalued. It's hard to think that the Chiefs, the back to back Super Bowl winners are undervalued, but they are.

Yeah. You look at how many points the Chiefs offense has scored year after year after year. Not last year, which is maybe the reason why people would be undervalued.

Exactly. I think his need, not being part of the defense, I think is going to really help the offense just need to, need to push it a little bit more. And the way that Andy Reid has talked about Pacheco in the passing game, he was asked like who's going to step up for Jerick McKinnon and he's like Pacheco's, he's got every route, he's got the pass protections, he's got great hands. So if he can be a three down back from a Holmes, you know, you go back to like when you had a top five season for Kareem Hunt, I think that's in the cards for Pacheco. Jason Moore, Mike Wright are the fantasy footballers who are here.

Andy Holloway, part of the trio that will be out there in the 10th anniversary Megala show here in Los Angeles tomorrow night, again, ballerslive.com for tickets if you're in the area. That scene from Braveheart where the horses are coming and they put up the sticks and he screams, hold, hold. That's the way I draft a quarterback every single time.

Good for you. I hear that in the back of my head, but I just want to, I just want to storm to get to the middle of the, of the battlefield every single time. Why, why hold on a quarterback? Why? Why hold? The reason to hold and wait on a quarterback is to get other more valuable positions.

Obviously in the NFL, quarterback is the most important position. Yeah. And then, you know, Anthony Richardson pops a 40 point game on you and you lose.

You know what I mean? Like, and then, and then Mahomes pops one or Stroud pops one. I mean like, and invariably the quarterback will outpoint your best guy that you keep trying to amass in the first three, four, five rounds of a draft. It's true.

Yes. But only one person's going to win the championship. So if you, if you go with the early quarterback, your team's going to be good. But if you find the late quarterback who hits when Lamar Jackson was drafted late and then he has his MVP season, if you find that guy late who hits, you become the one, you become the one putting the metal around your neck and buying big trophies and making fun of your friends. So, you know, this year I think Kyler is super undervalued. Kyler is why you wait. Jayden Daniels as a rookie who is mobile, you know, it's like he, he has more experience than Anthony Richardson does playing football despite the fact that it's year two for Anthony Richardson and, and he's a 10th rounder.

He's being drafted where Anthony Richardson was being drafted last year. So you're going to, you're saying to me, I should keep on amassing running backs, wide receivers and a tight end and hold off and then start Jayden Daniels and, and put my entire fantasy football strategy into the hands of a rookie quarterback. Yes, sir. Yep.

It's, it's supply demand. I mean, everyone, no matter how your league works, you're playing two running backs, you're playing two wide receivers. Sometimes you're playing more of those guys.

And then as long as we're not talking super flex, that's a completely different strategy. Most casual leagues out there, it's one quarterback. I play one, I play two, three wide receivers.

So I need to stockpile those guys. I have to have depth there. And then on top of that, we know 40 plus quarterbacks every year, it'll be, you know, probably around 42, 43 quarterbacks will put up at least one top 12 performance on, on a week because you just it's quarterback is the, is somehow still the easiest position to predict. I can see that this player is at home. This quarterback is at home. He's against a bad secondary. And he's going to, he's going to throw for 200 something yards and a chance at two touchdowns. And I can just grab that off the waiver wire and not spend my expensive picks. And that's only in the event that, that Kyler Murray doesn't work out that, that Jared Goff, who has the first four games of Jared Goff's schedule are just, they are so delicious for fantasy football and Matthew Stafford's first two games are great for fantasy football. All right.

So let me just jump in here then. So you're saying strategy go for running backs, wide receivers, grab your tight end for the first say eight rounds of a draft. And you're watching the rest of your friends and competitors snag Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Hurts and Lamar Jackson.

And you're holding sitting there, right? So let's go to the quarterback list of players who you should then hold for and say, you're going to win a fantasy draft by hitting this quarterback in the ninth, 10th round. You've already mentioned Jayden Daniels and you've mentioned Kyler and you've mentioned also Jared Goff as those guys. Would you put Caleb Williams in that mix too?

No, I, I, I, I definitely wouldn't. I know I'm behind ADP on him. He's he's in the best situation we've ever seen a rookie quarterback come into.

I can't, I can't ever remember it. Did you see that throw to Roma Dunze in that season, sir? It was awesome in the preseason.

And he ran it in after putting himself in the red zone personally with that throw. Yes. He is going to be awesome. Will he throw a lot of touchdowns in his rookie year historically? No.

And he might be the best prospect we've ever seen and he might be in the best position, but you've got the greats. You've got Peyton Manning coming out and throwing a bunch of interceptions and not a lot of touchdowns. Jayden Daniels.

Yes. Caleb Williams. No, that's just because fantasy is broken with rushing. So when you're a mobile quarterback and you can put up five, six, 700 yards rushing, you get a point for every 10 yards. If you throw the ball, you get a point for every 25 yards.

So it's really, it pushes those mobile quarterbacks up. Like I've, I've been against this for as long as we've done this podcast. I hate the scoring, but I'm going to take advantage of it. I'm just trying to win. All right. So let's keep going then.

Aaron Rodgers, do you hold off and put him in there in the ninth round? No, no, I don't think so. Not with that defense.

The defense is so good. So that means he's going to, that means he's going to be getting nice short fields and there's Garrett Wilson. There's Mike Williams. No. So you said no. Is there Mike Williams?

Okay. What about Tua? Do you put him, you put him in?

Tua is interesting. He just, he has, he has come out just red hot to start the last two years. And then I don't know if it's a temperature thing, if it's a defenses start figuring some things out, but he over the second half has, has faded, but I don't mind going into my season with him as my plan.

That's what I'm saying. These are the guys who might be available in the ninth that you're holding. Deshaun Watson. The injury scares me.

He's still dealing with, you know, arm soreness at this point. We're two weeks away from football, so I'm not as in on Deshaun Watson there. He's kind of the boom bust.

Maybe you catch gold, but maybe you're holding a stick of dynamite that, you know, that you don't get to throw. Kirk Cousins. Oh man. I mean, it's for him and Rogers, too, is it's the, we're talking about this on the show, the parallels of the Falcons and the Jets. It's absurd of two, two old quarterbacks on essentially new teams, because I'm not going to count last year for Rogers. Both of them have Achilles tears. Both of them have the superstar running backs. Both of them have superstar wide receivers who have not proven it, have not come to fruition of what we expect them to become.

So it's, those two teams, it's going to be really, really fun to see how it shakes out, who can get it going. So that's a no. It's a no. Don't do it. If you're holding, you better not be left holding that bag at the end of the eighth or ninth round if that's the quarterback you get.

Here's the money one. OK. Dak. Yeah, so Dak and Tua, those are great names to bring up. When I'm getting a player like that, that's good, they can put up massive points, I'm only going to look for those guys, and I'm going to specifically look for those guys if I was the guy who drafted Tyree Kill or CeeDee Lamb in the first round. Pairing your quarterback with your wide receiver, called stacking, it's just massive correlation, right? If your quarterback has a great day, it's probably because your wide receiver has a great day. It puts you over point thresholds to win more games.

It's a real provable strategy that's helpful. So when I end up leaving the first round with one of those guys later in the draft, I'm looking for Tua because I want to pair him with my Tyree, or I'm looking for Dak if I want to pair him with CeeDee. If I didn't grab those guys, then I'm looking specifically for the mobile rushing quarterback like Kyler or Jayden. OK. Purdy.

Last one. He is difficult. He's undervalued for sure. So that's why I think he'll be available in your draft against ninth round.

He'll be available late. We have what, essentially a year and a half of him, and his touchdowns thrown per attempt, so his touchdown percentage, it's outrageously high. Which there's outlier guys out there, like Aaron Rodgers, he's not a yardage guy, but touchdown percentage, he's always been incredible.

Russell Wilson, when he was not this version of Russell Wilson, he was giving those seasons as well. It's hard to buy in to that because it takes a true outlier to hit those numbers, but he may just be that guy, or the Shanahan system may be that good. So don't take him in the eighth or ninth rounds.

Well don't take him in the eighth or ninth because you can take him in the double digit rounds. Damn. Yeah, and if you could let us know about Ayuk and that contract, I would love to have that knowledge. You sir, we are all waiting. Let's just take this phone call real quick. Alex in Tampa, Florida, pop him up, let's make one of our fans smarter. What's up Alex? Dad, it's on!

Oh my God. Alex, you there? Yeah, hey, how you doing Rich? Yeah, what's up? You're on with the fantasy footballers, ask them your question, go for it. Hey man, long time listener, first time caller, it's good to be here.

First off, I want to give a big shout out to my dad, Pops, means the world to me, big ups Pops. Second off, Rich, I'm in a dynasty league here, and I just wanted to run my keepers by you and get some honest thoughts, is that alright? Yeah, we got time for a couple Alex, what do you got?

Sounds good Rich. My keepers right now are Lamar Jackson, DeAndre Swift, Cooper Cupp, AJ Brown, Kincaid, and AJ. How many can you keep? I can keep all the ones I've listed, now what I'm using on the table is Mostert, and possibly Jayden Reed, which has some buzz. Gents? Yeah, it sounds like he named the right guys.

The questioner is just dunking on people. I think this is flexing, you went on hold a long time to flex for a big audience. With those guys, Mostert or Jayden Reed, that's what I think I heard there at the end. Yeah, and if there's a dynasty league where you keep that many players, it's going to be Jayden Reed. Okay, thanks for the call Alex, I appreciate it brother, thanks for the time buddy, there you go. Good team. I'm about to win my league, can I call on the Rich Eisen Show and talk to the fantasy footballers? All right, thanks guys, I really appreciate that, let us know when the draft is, we're looking forward to being involved in that again, ballerslive.com to see these two gents along with Andy Holloway tomorrow night right here in Los Angeles at the Palace Theater for the 10th anniversary Megalos show, ultimatedraftkit.com to crush your draft, a portion of the sales there, of course, goes to St. Jude's, thanks for doing that gents, you're great to do that, fantasyfootballers.com for more information, at the FF Ballers on the dreaded X, at Jason FFL on X, and Mike FF Hitman as well, is that what happened to your pants?

Yeah, well sometimes you gotta get a little crazy. Okay, there you go, showing some knee, thanks for the, the ladies appreciate that Mike. I got a good knee. Okay, very good, I don't want to see about the right one, thanks again, appreciate that, Jason Moore, Mike Wright, thanks for coming here, terrific, we'll be wrapping up this Rich Eisen show and taking you to the weekend in a moment.

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That's it. Did last year at any point with you going through your first season not playing basketball? Never. Not once did you think about it?

Never. Here's the thing. For us athletes, it's really hard to transition from that, and I was really personal about it when I wrote Dear Basketball, but that is the true challenge of finding what comes next and finding something that you love to do every bit as much as you love your first passion. That is a challenge for us, and I think, unfortunately for us athletes, we've been pigeonholed into thinking that we can only be one thing, and so when I retire, everybody is saying, okay, he's too competitive. He's not going to know what to do with himself.

He's going to have to come back. I took that as a personal challenge of them thinking I'm this one-dimensional person that all I know is how to dribble the ball, shoot the ball, and play basketball and compete at that level. So I took that as a personal challenge.

I will never come back to the game ever. I'm here to show people that we can do much more than that, and creating this business, winning an Oscar, winning an Emmy and an Emmy, those are things that are showing other athletes that come after. No, no. There's more to this thing. Something called EGOT.

You want the Emmy, the Grammy, the Oscar, the Tony? The challenge became, how do I take the lessons that I learned through the game of basketball and translate them into building the studio? What are the things that I can take from that, the discipline, the commitment, the team and community? How do you get the best out of each other?

How do I take those lessons and move those here? That is the challenge. How do we do great work, uncompromising great work, not looking at the bottom line? You're focused on the product first, right?

Is this the best thing that we can possibly make no matter what? And having that sharp focus is something that I got from the game of basketball. Happy heavenly 46th birthday to Kobe Bryant. Back here on the Rich Eisen Show for the Roku only audience, we just showed a clip that on tomorrow on Saturday will be a six year anniversary of our interview with Kobe Bryant.

When I went down to his offices and about an hour south of here and interviewed him and today would have been his 46th birthday, Suze. And tomorrow is Kobe Bryant Day here in Los Angeles in 2016. Eric Garcetti, the then mayor, had dedicated the day to Kobe, obviously in honor of his number.

Yep, and the two numbers that he wore as a Laker. And earlier this month there was a beautiful statue unveiled outside of crypto. I will always refer to it as Staples of him and Gianna, and it is a beautiful, beautiful statue commemorating the gorgeous relationship the two of them had.

I would really encourage anybody who comes to visit Los Angeles and those of us who live here, maybe who haven't seen it, it's quite, it's quite spectacular. And in honor of him, I know that the Mamba and Mamacita Foundation is putting forth a new purple sweatshirt to raise money as Kobe always did to raise money. And we can only imagine what kind of girl dad he would be today. Well, I think about what a voice he would have with the massive explosion and ascension of women's basketball and what he would say about, you know, Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese and what's going on with the, you know, the WNBA as a whole and what's going on in women's college basketball and how sort of on the cutting edge he was, you know, coaching his daughter's team and coaching girls and coaching women's basketball. I would love to obviously know what he would think about Lebron's career and here in Los Angeles and how that's set up and what he would think about, you know, the Ant Man, right? Like, I would love to hear what he would have to say about anything in today's world of basketball. I love to think that he somehow whispered in the ears of all these WNBAers and the Caitlin Clarks and somehow he sowed the seeds of this because he really foresaw it. I mean, we talked about it at length with him. He foresaw it. The last time I saw him at Staples Center, he was with his daughter. I walked across the court to say hi and we just talked about him changing and him watching his daughter playing and how excited he was and how, you know, they would commute obviously to get her where she needed to be. He definitely would have been at that Sparks Fever game that we brought Taylor to earlier this year.

You were at too, Mikey. 100% he would have been. He would have.

We would have 100%. He would have been. Yeah. Yeah. You were the, you would have been the only one close to him anyway because of the seats that you had. So he would have had a hit of it.

But anyway. Yeah. He definitely, he definitely was so big and helping promote, you know, that now famous orange sweatshirt, orange t-shirt that the WNBA, it was like, he was the first one to really wear that. And then that thing sold out in, I swear it seemed like minutes, you know, he was, had a really tight, close relationship with Sabrina and Nescu, you know, you could see her right after they won the gold medal, she went right over to Vanessa and the girls, you know, because of that bond that they had.

So yeah, it would be interesting to see his thoughts, but I know one thing like he'd probably be about the dogs, so he'd probably love the fact that these women are out there just scrapping and grinding and being red asses as you like towards towards Kaitlin Clark and her giving it right back to it, you know, because that's competition, you know, and you could use like everything, you know, he thrived on competition. He was, he was a hardo a little bit out there. Just yesterday I was watching the video of him and Jeremy Lin at practice.

I mean, this had to have been 12, 13 years. I was sitting there feeling bad for Jeremy Lin, like Kobe was just dogging this man at practice. So, you know, I think he would have appreciated the fact that they're not playing soft.

These women are out there, you know, he probably would have enjoyed that. And you know, the sad thing with Gigi is I think we all kind of thought she was going to be it. She was going to be next, you know, and that's what's really all the way, all the kids that were lost that day, man, but like we've got to watch her and you got to see her dad teaching her stuff and you just went, yep, okay.

I think ESPN did a piece on the surviving members of that team and I think that won in a sports Emmy this year. Yeah, well I sent that to Susie a couple of weeks ago and I was like, get your tissues ready because it's not an easy watch. It's not an easy watch. All right, well, thanks for taking in today's program. Greatly appreciate it. I want to thank all of our guests, you, Sus, love you. See you later.

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