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Check out Heat the Call with Dan Hansis and Mark Sessler. Good to see you guys. How are you? Doing good. Thanks for having us. We're doing well. It is a reminder, yes, that things could be better with the football teams. But, you know, last, you know, I was saying a mark on our podcast last night with the Jets, Rich, that we won week one last year, but the season felt over this year. We lost week one, but we're still alive. That's right. There's a lot to go.
That's what I said to start the program. Brockman over there thinks the Patriots now are alive and the Jets are dead. We'll see. Week one lies, Brockman.
You know, that's what I think. Kyle Brandt said that all throughout game day morning and on on good morning football overtime, which you can see right here on the Roku channel. But in all seriousness, though, I did start the program to say, hey, at least the quarterback walked out and he's healthy and he will be starting week number two for Tennessee. Where do you stand on the way the Browns week one went?
I mean, a dictionary definition of an apocalypse. I mean, it was like I was, you know, we cover a number of games for our show on Sunday night, and I was excited to pick that one up. I thought it was going to be you get Tom Brady in the booth. He fared better than Cleveland. I thought the Browns basically took every question you had about them and answered it in the most negative way possible. I'm in a world at this point where I thought they were so completely out-coached, outclassed, that about five or six minutes into game time, I knew it was over.
And I've been doing this for years. There's been Browns games are like game over, like midway through the first quarter. I think season over if they don't figure out what's happening with the Sean Watson, because I am looking at a quarterback that has regressed to a point where I don't understand who he was in Houston, who he is now. And I would much rather turn to Jamis Winston at this point, a la Joe Flacco, the last time I felt hope as a Browns fan. So that is an interesting question there, because Watson did say after the game, you know, his dad passed away and his close friend passed away.
Even though his mom raised him, he said it affected him. He didn't use it as an excuse, he was saying. But I mean, there were a couple of throws. And again, because I had a Amari Cooper and a fantasy against that man that's in the corner right there, who I can't look in the face because he actually beat me this week. Dude, I don't understand why. Because I feel like I've got a lot going on in my life. That's the problem. But why do I need to win a fantasy to actually feel good about myself internally and externally?
It's so sad. But that's my own. That's an MP, not a YP. It's like an America P. But I was focusing a little bit on where Cooper was on the field. A couple of times he's in the end zone or heading to the end zone and the ball hit the back wall. And a couple of times he's going down the left sideline and the ball hit the kicking net. And it was so far afield.
It was one of like, what has happened to this guy is the question you have to have. There were so many turnover worthy throws. I thought his finest pass of the day was a dart out of bounds to CeeDee Lamb who caught it with no problems along the Cowboys sideline. That was... No, he did take one in the chops after taking it in the chops all day. And he hit Cooper in his hands and it went through his hands.
That's another thing that I was particularly keen to see him catch. But that said, it was a big ass question mark on Sunday. I think there's a world where I can't roadmap it right now, but the Browns find a way to get out of this situation at some point. And you can't do this for three more years. What we just saw, I don't know if I could do it for three more weeks.
Three more minutes might be tough. 92 million guaranteed left on the contract after this year. And the thing that's jumped out to me watching him, it's also coming out of college, his coach was saying, this is a Michael Jordan type talent. He can do everything. And that's what he looked like at times with Houston. And all the off the field stuff is one thing. On the field, yeah, scattershot arm. He does not push the ball downfield. And when he tries to evade pass rush, he was a supreme athlete. And not all you ever see is him getting dragged down as he tries to escape the pocket.
He just seems like a different player entirely. So that's a tough one. There's some winnable games sitting in front too though. And I'm not talking about this week. At Jacksonville, that is a tough place to play. That is a tough team.
I mean, Josh Heinz Allen is a grown man. Trevon Walker did look better against the Dolphins in week number one. And they're also equally as desperate to not go to 0-2. You do have the Giants in week three coming into the dog pound. Now, if Daniel Jones and the Giants come in there and win that game, I don't know. We have problems at that point.
I would think so. I mean, at Vegas, at Washington, these are games that a team that made the playoffs last year with 11 wins and Joe Flacco being the comeback player of the year because of how well he was performing in this offense without Nick Chubb, although with, I imagine, a more healthy offensive line. These are games that the Browns should win. You should expect them to win these games. Yeah, I think you can look into the schedule.
You could roadmap them being two and two, possibly three and two. I think it still comes down to who is this quarterback and what does he look like? Because if it's this, winning those games loses meaning to me because you still have to go through the rugged nature of the entire season with someone that I'm not sure can play anymore. I watched a quarterback. I'm not sure this quarterback can play anymore.
And I also like, does he want to? Is this someone that is burning with passion to play football? Because when I hear him speak and talk, I just don't see it. I mean, we've all seen those quarterbacks where you can feel that their livelihood, everything about them, their soul, their nucleus, is about playing football at the NFL level. And I'm not feeling that personally from Deshaun Watson. I tweeted out last night just like, playing quarterback for the Cleveland Browns should mean something.
And it was an image of Bernie Kozar in a driving snowstorm against the old Houston Oilers. That meant something to me, like watching him play. I could feel it. You could feel it coming off his skin.
And I don't feel that way with Deshaun Watson. I don't know how else to say it. I just show it to me.
Show it to all of us. And I wonder if it does continue down this road, if you, you know, Kevin Stefanski, he's in a very safe place. He's the reigning coach of the year. But if he feels one way and ownership feels another way, like what is happening behind the scenes around his, whether he continues his QB-1 with this team, if the play doesn't get where it needs to be, I mean, the money is outrageous that they promised to this guy. And now it's, his play has complicated everything. But if you go to Jamis and Deshaun is healthy, you bench him just to say, he needs a break. He needs a breather. He needs this.
How, with 92 million left on a contract, how do you even go back to him? Right? I mean, I guess you can. Right. You can. I mean, so the question is, is, is, doesn't this essentially fracture the relationship if they just say you're benched due to ineffectiveness?
Yes, I think it, it does fracture it. And I guess it's like, are we okay with it being fractured? I mean, they weren't in the off season because Joe Flacco wanted to stay in Cleveland. And I think we all think like Joe Flacco was too likable. He was winning. The team loved him. He was giving the speeches in the locker room after the game and everyone just, you could feel that leadership. And who's giving the speeches in the pregame?
Cleveland Brown's feed is tweeting out, Jamis motivating the troops. You didn't even see Deshaun Watson doing it. So it's like, I think they're a little allergic to someone coming in and being more likable than Deshaun Watson because they've got a problem with Deshaun Watson as a personality. I don't think that we're understanding who he is.
He feels a little lost to me as who is this human being for a multiple reasons. And it's like Joe Flacco too likable. Jamis Winston, you have a problem if he comes in, he wins a few games and he, he's the Jamis version of himself where he's verbally intriguing and riles up the whole team and the Browns fans are going crazy for him. But right back where we were a year ago with Flacco and they got rid of that guy because it was too much of a problem. You're stuck with this guy at quarterbacks. So I think it is a conundrum.
I thought being a Jets fan was complicated, Rich. This is a whole other level. This is why I'm up all night, you know. There's a little existential crisis stuff going on here.
Well, if we cut to one year ago today, you were in a fetal position, sir. I was. I mean, there's no question about it. Dan Hansus and Mark Sessler here.
Everybody should check out the Heed the Call podcast on, on, on five days a week. And you could see that it's an underdog production of underdog. And so let's, let's move on to the Jets. What, what's your, what's your take on, on what you saw on Monday Night Football?
Obviously disappointing. And I thought that the one thing that I concerns me and I liked what I saw from Aaron Rodgers overall, I know he did the the numbers weren't great and he wasn't perfect, but I came out of the game seeing, seeing enough to be like, okay, that's going to be okay. The concern that I've had around this team for the last couple of years is I don't trust the coaching. And to come into that game and see Shanahan just go in circles around his old buddy Salah and Ulbricht, the DC, and just out scheme. And then all the concerns that you had, like the Jets have had a strong defensive line under Salah. They made some changes.
Redick is obviously missing here. And to see them get worked, the way they were up front, that is concerning to me. So it is ironic and it is very jetsy that they finally get the quarterback back. And, and I know Brockman's smirking over there, but the third drive, I can't help it, these Boston guys in your head, but like the third drive when Rogers takes over 70,000 fans screaming and you seize and control the line and he's totally got the team locked in. They go right down the field, big third down pickups. And you're like, okay, this is a professionally run offense with an all-time graded quarterback. And then now the defense is where we're spring and league. So you go into week two in Nashville thinking, okay, that seems like a nice matchup. And I watched the Titans this morning and Will Levis was a mess in that game.
Just every bit as bad as Deshaun Watson in some ways. And I think, okay, this should be a get right game. But how, how do I feel confident after watching that, that Tony Pollard is not going to go off after what Jordan Mason did? Let me give you a half glass full. Okay.
Hit me, hit me, Rich. The last time Rogers played a snap was when his Achilles snapped. He didn't do a thing in the preseason on the field in a game. Last night was the first time they actually did it together in a game. And the Niners are your opponent. And Fred Warner is standing in the middle of that field and he's peanut Tillman-ing the ball out of Breece Hall's arms.
And he's also going sideline to sideline behind Bosa up front. I mean, what'd you expect? And the fact that they did put it together for that, you know, touchdown drive that gave him the lead to start.
I mean, it's a flash. That's a sign. It was like I said, Rick Dalton, Jeff, like there it is. That that's exactly what they can do. And and, but you're right.
The defense was the biggest thing. And as I said, to start the show, if you want to play for Salah, you better show up because there's a door. And even Rogers has said that if they underperform this year, everybody's gone. I mean, Joe Douglas is not on. He's on, I guess the Mike McCarthy plan right now. Like his contract's up.
He doesn't have any. I mean, he's put together quite a team and Hassan Reddick's not walking through that door. I mean, he's, he's got no cachet with the Jets. He's like, he's never played it down for the Jets. And, and so, I mean, if you're hoping that he's the answer, the answer should be in the building. Yeah.
And Hassan Reddick, if he's on the field, Brock Purdy, you know, could set up a picnic yesterday, but really Hassan Reddick's not a guy that's known for stopping the run either. So that's not like the game would have been totally different. I think overall, I don't want to sound doom and gloom because I'm not, because I really do.
And, you know, we had my dad who's, you know, goes back to the name of days on the show last night and he had a similar vibe as I did, was like, well, that sucked, but you know what? We have more time to figure this out. And that's just such a big difference from last year when not only did the, you lose Rogers, but you knew the season was over after week one. So plenty of time to get it figured out, but it absolutely, you can't spin it any other way than disappointment because once you hear Christian McCaffrey's out and you knew it was a summer of storms up there in San Francisco with the player and the holdout and all that stuff going on, it felt like a good spot for the Jets weirdly to me. And, you know, me and a lot of other Jets fans were wrong.
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It's just played for pride. It's called residual rich. Hit it. Hit. All right, here we go. Give me the, give me that.
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This is the first thing I ever did. An episode of Arliss. Okay. Okay. Wow. I'm not going to share my Arliss takes, but I love that you were on it. Arliss. This is literally the first thing I ever did when I was on SportsCenter. Chris Brockman, you have at it.
What's the residual check for? It's literally just for one episode per pay TV of Arliss. What year? Oh God, 96, 97. Let's go. Let's go. What do you got? 13 cents. 13 cents. 25 cents. All right.
Mark, Mark Sessler. What do you think? I've got 26 cents. 26 cents frozen out. I will say 74 cents. 74 cents.
TJ Jefferson was actually one on the price is right. What do you have, sir? I'm going to go 87 cents.
That's normally what these checks are for. I don't know what the hell Robert Wall's up to. Here we go. $16. So I win. We didn't value you enough.
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Okay, so I'll give you the macro question. Your week one storyline is what, Mark? I am deeply concerned about Kirk Cousins and the Atlanta Falcons. I thought that that was a team that was not only going to win the division, but come out and at home show us that all these weapons in a post Arthur Smith world would be used correctly and that Kirk Cousins coming off the Achilles would look like the old Kirk Cousins. And you know, I watched the game and I was like, I think he's healthy. But then the more that you dig into it and look at what happened on some of his near interceptions and incompletions, it's an issue with the footwork. I just don't know if he's able to really drive the ball the way he wants to.
And I think it raises the question that we've talked about a lot on our show. It's like, you went out and drafted Michael Pennix and he played in the preseason. They shut him down because they liked him enough.
He's the kind of guy that's spicy. And if they get into trouble, the fans start crying for the backup. And I just wonder where they are in even a couple of weeks.
Like if Kirk Cousins struggles, is Michael Pennix too rich of an option to not take a look at to turn to? So to me, they're a team of intrigue. I thought they would come out and beat a Steelers team and they were dominated by T.J. Watt. And so I leave concerned with the Atlanta Falcons and they are my interesting team of intrigue. Yeah, their next two games, Monday Night Football in Philadelphia.
And Kirk Cousins has had some long nights there as a member of the Vikings and obviously some with the commanders. And then they got the Chiefs coming in. I mean, those are their next two with a visit to New Orleans. I mean, with the home dates with New Orleans and Tampa. And you have to win your home division games. So that's the way the Falcons are looking after that week one loss. And Arthur Smith has got to feel great, right? To beat the Falcons with six field goals, even though his offense didn't get in the end zone.
But at least he's got that revenge. And that schedule that reminds me of the way, you know, Park Avenue sets it up. It's like we'll give you maybe it's not a cookie in week one at home, but one that you should win. But if you don't, you better watch out because for the next two weeks could be a nightmare situation for you. Cousins, to use a baseball analogy, Rich occasionally will text about the Yankees. Yes. You know, his cousin, I think, is Jake Cousins. It is. It is. I think he should be the closer, by the way, just to be off right now if I had to choose one.
But I'm sorry to diverge. But now I feel like it should be something about Jake Cousins. But I was going to mention Nestor Cortez, the type of pitcher who doesn't live with great great stuff.
So a fastball that maybe sits ninety two, ninety three, if you have a shoulder issue or something with your lower body. Kirk Cousins never had a cannon for an arm. So I think it's fair to wonder if he's physically compromised at all after a major surgery. And he's a little older. If he does lose something off a fastball that was never a big time fastball, is he going to start hanging some balls over the middle?
Like these are things these are real concerns. But I overall like he's been such a steady guy in his career. And I think he set up with pieces around him still that I'm not overly concerned, but they have put themselves in a tough spot. And the glass half full. Way to go about that, too, is Kyle Pitts scored a touchdown on American soil.
Sure did. So I mean, like Cousins found him. And he's wide open. And by the way, you got to hit him when he's nine feet tall and waving his arms because you're so damn wide open.
I mean, if you don't hit that, then then then you got a problem. Your week one story would be what? A lot of hype around the Texans. And and so I think Mark picked them to actually win the Super Bowl.
If I'm not mistaken. And it's a lock. So, yeah, watching this great division match up and kind of bullish in general about the AFC South is a fun division this year. And seeing Anthony Richardson, who was imperfect, but a lot of fun with three plus 50 yard plays.
Alec Pierce is the clubhouse leader for throw of the year right now. His his foot kind of goes out. There's something going on with the Lucas Oil turf.
I don't know if you had any issues when you were an indie, Rich. I don't know if they had switched it out. It was it's always been the turf. Yeah. So they changed it. And now. Yeah, exactly. That's the difference between four four.
But but yeah, so that was fun. But C.J. Stroud having a monster running game is a scary thought. And just like what we saw in San Francisco with that line blowing open huge, huge running lanes for the backup running back, seeing Joe Mixon just going through, you know, reaching the second level without being touched.
Now, the Colts had a bad day defensively. But if their running game is for real and Stefan Diggs was a really nice fit, like wasn't the 2022 Stefan Diggs necessarily. But he he was a redstone menace with two touchdowns. We know that they have other big time receivers with Nikko Collins and Tankdale there and C.J. Stroud in year two after historic year one. If you give them a running game, they might lead the league in scoring and look out and Mark might end up right in February. So watching Mixon just kick ever living a butt is something that jumped out to me in week one. Did you predict the Texans to beat in the Super Bowl? I had the Texans beating the Detroit Lions 27 to 21 in overtime.
Geez, you get that's oddly specific. Well, I mean, we were we were I've been doing this the 15th year we've covered the NFL together. And Mark has never not picked a game to go to overtime. So just so you know, broken clock's going to be right at least once. And last last year, your clock was broken perfectly. Falcons Patriots got that right. Nailed it, you know. But now that it's happened, you got to go raise the stakes and say double overtime. That's how you realize that's a good point.
That's that's that's you're a good showman because that's that would have that would have been the correct move there. So do they score first or they stop them first and then score a touchdown? Do they miss the extra point? I think they miss the extra point.
Okay. And then they then they go do what they need to do on the next drive. So that is that is actually raising the stakes a little because that's a very odd scenario to miss. Now why even watch a game? You seem to have the what was it Biff Tannen's almanac now and why even watch? Well, TJ's got the script. I do. Right, don't you?
Do you still have it? TJ keeps busting this thing out. There it is. My site.
This is this is like gold. Did you print out the cover page yourself? Like, I'm wondering how you're how you've done this sort of thing.
I print nothing. It came to me in this confidential envelope. It's obviously legitimate. Did you print out the word confidential on an envelope again, Rich? I didn't do anything.
I walked to my mailbox. I'd looked in there and it was there. It was just there. Actually, I won't lie to you guys. I had to sign for it. It was that important. Oh, wow. Who did it come from? An R. Goodell? The shield NYC on here.
You even printed that out too. Do you have a glue stick? All I had was a letter opener that I popped this open with and I pulled the script out and I could have told you what happened week one, but I didn't want to. Is it nice? Did your mom send you the glue stick from Altoona?
See, my mom doesn't know nothing about football. It says right here, arts and crafts from back of the day. Doesn't this look legitimate? Doesn't this look like it came from the league? I mean, wish it was colored.
It's collated. See the script. What did you pick for the Super Bowl, Dan? Oh, we don't really need to. What did I touch a third rail here?
What is it? Jets? Jets who? That's Packers? That's exactly who I picked. Jets, Packers.
Look at you. I mean, boy, you need a Superfund site after week one for that one. But I think that was exactly the pick. Last year was actually Jets Niners. So again, broken clock is right once so far for the Jets every 60 years almost. Maybe it comes back around.
It's about 60. Well, let's talk about the Packers a little bit here because I do feel like there's a bit of a vibe of last year's Jets here. Although at least for the Packers, Jordan Love is not out for the full season. But even if he's out for a third of a season, the rest of the division just won in week one, right?
Yeah. And I think Sam Darnold shows you that this team is going to at least be in the running for a seven seed with they're not going to win just four games, five games if everybody stays healthy there in Minnesota. The Bears are who I think we are, who we think they are, which is a team that's going to struggle a little bit on offense until they can maybe match the defense in terms of production.
And they have the horses to do that. So and the Lions are, I think, as they showed, you know, good enough to win it all again in the division, if not the entire conference, if not the entire league. So if they're going Malik Willis, who's, I guess, in the Zach Wilson role of we got you there, you know, we don't intend to ever use you, but we've got you there.
I don't know if he can be coached up to the point where they're going to win half the games that they're going to have to win with Jordan Love out. Yeah. I don't think I'm telling any lies here. No, if the most mystifying thing that I saw in week one was Antonio Pierce punting on fourth and one from the plus 43 down six with 715 to go in the fourth quarter against the Chargers. The second most mystifying thing was looking at the depth chart of the Packers and realizing that their backup quarterback is a guy that washed out of Tennessee immediately, just got signed a couple of weeks ago and probably doesn't even have a strong grasp of the playbook. And you're trying to win a Super Bowl.
I can't believe that they left themselves so vulnerable. And I hope things go well. Like our producer on Heed the Call is Justin Graver, who does an amazing job and he's a Titans fan. And he's real about Malik Willis.
He understood why they went and got Will Levis. So maybe there's Matt Lafleur pixie dust here and he can get him past this stretch without messing up the season. But I feel like they're extremely vulnerable, every bit as vulnerable as the Jets were last year with Zach Wilson right now. Well, I think it's a reason that whispers, you know, came about about maybe like Ryan Tannehill is like the one veteran guy sitting out there. Like, yeah, look at you need your backup quarterback. Like I think ideally, like you project him to play one or two games or half or a quarter where like he has to come in and just do the job. And everything that we've seen from Malik Willis does not suggest he's going to just come in and do the job, especially in a new environment, new team, new playbook. I love the coaching there.
I think there's great surrounding cast. It's not a bad situation for a backup, but I would be looking around for someone who has been in the NFL for years that has some proven proof of concept track record. I would call Ryan Tannehill right now. I've sort of said there's been reports that maybe they want to do that. Maybe they don't. But if you're Matt Lafleur, I mean, you're right. This division has is gnarly. It's nasty. It's not what it was a couple of years ago.
There's no easy turns here. And so you can't fall behind two or three games because your quarterback cannot provide. So wasn't Lafleur there when Tannehill was there? I mean, didn't they hire Lafleur from Tennessee when Tannehill was there?
I mean, they must speak the same language. There are reports out there that Tannehill wants to be in like the perfect situation. Well, guess what? Probably not existing.
Well, I mean, the perfect, you know, take a look. I don't blame him. Right. But he's waiting for what? Somebody to go down for the year?
Honestly, you have to take a look at the way things are in the world. I would give two cents. Last year's comeback player of the year. Right.
Last year's comeback player of the year was on the couch past Halloween. Right. And and so maybe the six weeks are now and you're standing there and you're anything can happen. And suddenly you're playing a playoff game for the Green Bay Packers. And you're you're you're just saying I'm going to sit and wait for the situation where I'm going to start a playoff game like Joe Flacco.
Those are those are pretty rare, man. I don't know. On the flip side of that, though, like we don't really know where his headspace is that he's made a lot of money. He's got a nice family and everything over there. And maybe he's thinking this would be nice.
I mean, this would be nice to come in and get a couple of starts with the Packers. Now, when you say nice family, you're talking about environment. Is that what you're saying? Lauren Tannehill seems like a wonderful woman. And I know they have children. They seem to be happy.
I don't know them personally, actually. I don't even know why I'm talking about right now. I don't know. Get me out of this. What I'm saying is what I'm saying is, is that he's probably thinking to himself, well, it's an MCL sprain.
It's a maybe a two to three week injury. And you know what? I'm comfortable where I am right now. And I don't want to be standing with a clipboard in December in Green Bay once Jordan Love is healthy and like tearing up the NFL again. I get that human side of it, too.
But it depends. I can I can report briefly that I have met Lauren Tannehill. Dan knows this at NFL honors. You know, when you're trying to get quotes from players and everyone shoved up along the wall.
Sure. Lauren Tannehill, beautiful person, nice person, like had her purse on the ground, a very expensive white purse. And I got moved back by a handler and stepped on her white purse. Oh, did you smudge?
Well, I heard a loud cracks, crackling sound like it was like a compact or something expensive shattered inside. And we kind of just looked at each other and it was kind of like, I hate you a little bit. That was her look to me. And then I skirted away into the distance after apologizing. So she what she handled it well.
So I think, Dan, you're right. I think that was the final time, Rich. We were assigned to cover the red carpet at NFL. We never did that again. We got the invite to watch where you're stepping. Yeah, that's it, man. You never know. It's my super call. The podcast that'll tell you who's nice in the family world right here on the gas is educated guys and show you're just throwing darts at a board. Yeah.
What Instagram? OK, so who's standing in the Chiefs way? You said Texans. Give me another one. Give me who's standing in the Chiefs, man.
The one other team I would just want drugs. They're not getting a lot of love through the summer. Just watching Josh Allen ball out and after falling behind against the Cardinals and everything looks like it's going to hell. And he is one of those dudes. There's probably only five of them in the league that you could tell where he's like, OK, I'm changing the situation here. He ends up with four touchdowns in that game, two on the ground.
He jacks up his hand in the process. And you have to worry about that. He is going to have to do a lot with that offense, but he can. And, you know, you watch the Jets fall on their face in that game.
We know what Miami does every December and January. And the Patriots are the Patriots, week one notwithstanding. And like the idea of just counting out Buffalo and counting out that man with so much to prove.
Yeah, that was an eye opener to me on Sunday. And then you've got the Cowboys here. And if I'm just saying if the Chiefs had done to the Browns, what the Cowboys did to the Browns, if the Lions had done to the Browns, if the Niners had done to the Browns, what the Cowboys just did to the Browns, just trying to show you some false equivalencies unless they're true equivalencies.
A lot of us in our media world would be like they're winning the Super Bowl. The Cowboys do it and it's just like, OK, we'll see in January, you know, and and and I'm just wondering again, because what they did, that stat sheet didn't light up. But what lit up was everything else. The only stat sheet that really lit up was Brandon Aubrey's stat sheet.
And it could have been lit up with a 70 yarder, which I thought they still were going to go to. I've never seen one attempted. I've seen many attempted on the elf. I've never seen anything tempted on the left side of the elf before. Pretty cool.
Beyond the elf, which is another maybe underdog can have a podcast called that. I'll write that one. But that's the way I came on, gave him their flowers.
I sort of I handled this this way, gave him their flowers. And then the other headline is whatever. I mean, yeah, that's really the way you got to look at it. I love that because I mean, last year, the way they destroyed the Giants early on in the season, right? And that was every aspect of their team dominating. And that's what I thought with Cleveland was like special teams defense. Their offense wasn't explosive, but they did everything they needed to do coaching. It looked like they've got it all together. He called a great game McCarthy. He really did.
And like, I think it was kind of like, wait a minute. After we spoke about the Cowboys all offseason in a certain way, they went and just dominated. But last season is proof of like, yeah, but I can't trust that until it occurs in the new year. Like I need it to happen in January and I'm okay not trusting them until they prove me wrong.
I just think, I think also they played a team that looked disorganized and disheveled and completely lost with no plans. So I felt for Siciliano, this is his dream job calling Browns games, right? And that's his first one. He deserves better. You deserve better. You sound like the kid who sent the letter to Belichick right now.
That's what you sound like. I was that kid. I know you were.
Yeah. I'm not a kid anymore. He's a colleague, so maybe we could get that squared away on Meet the Call. How old were you when you sent a letter to Belichick? Well, I was actually, it's a weird story, but I took, I went to Miami of Ohio and and took a class called football coaching. I was like 17, but you had to find a coach to write to. And a lot of people were just writing their old high school coach and I was like, I'm going to write Bill Belichick and see what happens.
Like probably never hear back. And then like at the time current head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Absolutely. And I actually went to Miami of Ohio because I wanted to work for the Browns.
So I was like, I'm going to just simply go to Ohio. That made a lot of sense transferred a year later. Didn't nothing happen. But like Belichick wrote back like a month later, I always thought it was probably like his secretary, but who was Nick Saban's secretary at Alabama for years later. And she confirmed that it was actually bill after I wrote that story. So at a typewriter, like he typed it out himself, not dictated, but not read by Bill Belichick. It was dictated like the idea of it. Cause it was typewritten. But there were computers then. So it could have been, I could have come off like a dot matrix printer. So you still obviously have this, this, I do have, I do.
I have all these. Yeah. So it is entirely possible with him.
Part of the underdog world, right. That you can actually get him to sign it or have a conversation with you about it. Maybe on heed the call or something. I think so. It also strikes me that could come across as slightly creepy. So I'm trying to think about how to approach that.
Should I tell him, should I tell him my story? You got to fight through the creepiness. Okay. Okay. Okay.
I've done that multiple times with Donald Arthur Mattingly, one of the greatest human beings ever created. Okay. I mean, seriously.
Yeah. I have done it. I have embarrassed myself in front of him multiple times, multiple times. And you know what? It embarrasses my loved ones, but I keep going. I keep going. Don't you worry. I keep, I do.
That's a good lesson. Please keep going through the creepiness. Okay. That's I've been told that before. Okay.
That's a, that's a, that's a heavy lift as much as I, uh, I, I hate to admit. Good to see you gents, uh, come back anytime. Let me know what's going on in your world and appreciate you coming on here. Thank you for having us.
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Just go to linkedin.com slash direct and get started. What is the furthest you've ever thrown a football? Josh was in Wyoming. So I did get a little assistance from the elevation. Yes. But it was right around 83 yards. Right.
Right around 83. Yeah. Are we rounding up? Are we rounding down to the 83? Josh?
We were probably rounding up just a little bit, but, uh, yeah, 83 was, uh, and that was the number. So I don't know. I'm looking up to see if you're playing in Denver at all. So you can play, you can get a little bit of, uh, some altitude. Can you do that in an NFL game?
You think? I mean, there was one game, I think it was my rookie year against the dolphins. Um, I, I threw a ball thing near as hard as I can and I, my receiver was 60, 70 yards downfield and I overthrew him just by a little bit.
I did. And that, that was just one of those. Like I didn't, I didn't feel like I threw it as hard as I could, but my hip fired so hot and it just came out of my hand extremely well. And it was spinning and, um, it was a little warm in Miami. So it might've flown a little farther, but it was just one of those that just kind of even blew me off guard. So, uh, something I've toned down a little bit though, and I feel like I've got a little more control on my, my ball right now.
No accuracy is something that you definitely have improved on as we have seen. So let's just walk me through this at some point during a game and your career, let's just say it could even happen this, this weekend against new England, where you have to throw a hail Mary to win it. Uh, at what yardage do you say to your coach? I still got this.
Give it to me your own, your own water. Like I know I can get the ball in the air and they get it probably a good four or five yards, even in probably around the 35, your own 35. Yeah. Okay. Cause you know, you're probably going to have to avoid a rush a little bit, even if they're coming at you with three man, you're going to have to roll out a little bit.
So right around your own 30 something yard line, you can, you can get it in there. You think so? Yeah.
I think so. Unbelievable. Back here on the rich eyes and show the NFL season is we're all well aware.
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What's going on up my cousins? What's on your mind, Jeff? I tell you, just wanted to talk real quick about the situation with Tyreke Hill.
Okay. Uh, once upon a time we pulled over Dre Black. He was on his way to the practice facility. It was like old three, old four sometime around there.
And he was doing about eight, pulled them over. And when we spoke to him, man, listen, I'm on my way to play. You know, I'm on my way to the game, blah, blah, blah. Oh, no problem. Jump behind us, put the lights on, got them there.
Guess who has sideline tickets for the next game? Now the, you know, exactly. Now with the situation that I, I don't know exactly what happened, but for some reason, when people cracked their windows, police hate that and there's no law against it, but they just take it as a sign of disrespect.
It's like, you can get your information through the window and receive it through the window. I never took it personally because people are people, you know what I'm saying? But in a situation like that, I believe that's what triggered the police officer because there was no, there was absolutely no reason to do them like that. I mean, he's a part of the city. You're a part of this city. You know what I'm saying? Especially if you're on a detail, but Miami, it was just, it was unheard of.
I feel real bad for it. Well, a couple of questions here, Jeff, how, again, you know, we've known each other for 10 years, you calling into the program. How long were you a cop, Jeff?
I was a cop from 1996 to 2007. So, cause when you said trigger, it seemed way more than trigger. I mean, it, it, it went from like zero to nuclear from, from, from my point of view, watching this. That's because you have police officers that have this built in toughness about themselves and they can't deescalate a situation. They have to ramp it up for some reason.
Now you do have good police officers out there that are probably listening to your show that actually do deescalate, but it's suggested when you see the certain ones, like in a Scotty Shefler situation, just pulling them over to the side, advising him of what's going on and letting him go on about his business, understanding what he is and that he's bringing revenue. And that's the thing about it. He's bringing revenue to the city. The more people that come visit your city, guess what? It looks better on your city.
It looks better on you and you being a professional. And when I had that type of state in detail, unless you jumped into the back of my scout car, I wasn't doing nothing. I'm gonna have me a good time hanging, kicking with the people and be who I'm supposed to be an ambassador of the city. And that's what you're supposed to be.
Yes. Well, the difference, I guess, between Scotty Shefler, Jeff, and this one is Scotty Shefler, when he was maneuvering his car, there was somebody who was struck by a bus and killed. And that's why the police were there. And so, you know, and I'm not making any excuses, obviously, but this one, it's just a guy who was speeding. And that's what the body cam showed. It was just speeding and it was a game day and everybody's just driving, getting to the game. I don't know why the cops responded in such a manner to drag them out of the car, throw them down on the ground, handcuff them. And then at some point, some of the teammates were coming up. I mean, the Walter Payton man of the year was coughed, Jeff.
I mean, and Kalaus Campbell. You have these police officers that are just, they feel like they're bad. And see, it's all indiscretion. You have certain police officers that when they were younger, they were bullied. Now, their tone is absolute because you could hear it in the video. As soon as he said, roll the window down, where you're going, you're getting arrested.
And I mean, there was no in-between. Either roll the window down or you're getting arrested. There is no law against just cracking your window and receiving a citation. There's no law against it, but it's the ego part of it. It's, I'm the law. This is my domain and you're going to do what I say. That's the problem. Jeff, you're the best.
Thanks for chiming in on the subject and giving your perspective. Jeff in Detroit. Hey, Jeff. What'd you think when you watched this video, TJ? You know, I wanted to see the body cam footage, of course, first before I said anything. Listen, we all did in this world.
You never, you never know until you see it. I was seeing the cut, the passerby footage and that in itself was just like hard to watch. You know, here you've got a guy who is an ambassador for the city. The Dolphins are really involved in the community.
I know that for a fact. And so you've got this guy, which you're initially seeing is Tyreek Hill laying face down on hot pavement, getting taken down in another video by an officer while people walk up and down the sidewalk behind him wearing Dolphins jerseys. And I'm sure someone probably had his jersey on.
So as Richard Sherman said yesterday, it's the embarrassment first and foremost, like that's embarrassing and that's scary. But that's the video that you were saying you saw on Sunday that passersby were shooting. What about the body cam footage? And you kind of, you know, people love to say if you only would have listened or if you would have complied. And as I said on this show before, I was simply walking down my own street one day when I got rolled up on and handcuffed.
I wasn't doing anything. And I complied, you know, so you can just be minding your own business or you can be complying. And if someone is a little bit of a hardo, you get some of these officers, like he said. And it's usually Mike, the second guy who comes onto the scene, the first guy who was engaged with him, they seem to be having, you know, a conversation. And I've seen this a hundred of hundreds of times on television. It's the second guy that comes over now.
He's got to be Billy Badass. He's got to prove that he's the man and he's the one who pulled him out the car and escalate the situation when it didn't have to be that way. So people wonder why there's this disconnect. It's because you're afraid, like you guys don't have the same fears that I do. When I have a cop, if I hear a siren, bro, it's not like, oh, let me get out of the way.
It's like fear takes over from my entire body as I tense up and I feel fear. And I know all officers aren't bad, obviously. You know, I got pulled over on Rose and Lincoln one day because my headlight was out. This officer, not only did he put me on game, he told me that my license plate came back as my car was stolen. But the thing was, he took time to talk to me before he ran the plate. And he told me, your plate came back stolen. And he told me this was the conversation he had with whoever was on the other line. And he said, no, I don't believe it about him. Run the plate again.
They ran the plate again and turned out that they put an extra E in my license plate. So and he came up to me and like I said, he put me on game. He told me essentially that I was lucky that I got him and not one of his fellow officers who might be a little. And that's how he left.
He goes a little. And he did that to me, kind of letting me know that like some guys are going to be a little aggressive. He told me what to do if it happened again. He goes, you might get pulled over again because they might misread your plate. Told me what to do, how to get out of the car, how to put my hands up, how to tell, ask them to run my plate again. He basically was sharing with me how to handle this situation because he knew on another day, another officer, it could have escalated.
So, you know, you see this stuff and it's hard and you're always going to have those people who are going to be like, you know, they should have done this. He should have done that. But watch the video and listen.
It just was unnecessary. Listen, whenever somebody is speeding down the street and I'm like sitting like, where are the cops? Boy, I would love for a cop to be here right now to actually get this person speeding down the street and ticket that person, excite them.
I always say that all the time. And watching the body cam footage, you do see Tyreek just zip down the street, OK? And they pull him over. And then you watch the whole exchange about the window.
And then as soon as the second guy comes in, it just goes from zero to nuclear. Yeah. And and I'm watching this and I'm horrified. I have never. And that's what Mike McDaniel said in a tear filled four minutes that I think everybody should seek out saying that, you know, the thing that F's him up about it is that he doesn't know how it feels.
Yeah. And and I feel the same way hearing I've never been told by an officer how to handle being pulled over. And I understand why I've never been told that. So I I told this was an outrage.
Watching this from soup to nuts was an absolute outrage. And I don't care what Tyreek Hill has done in the past. I don't care about any of that. He did not deserve to be yanked out of the car and thrown down on the ground and be told to stop crying when he's saying that he's got he had knee surgery. And I understand some people might be like, then he should have rolled his window down.
You know, you don't deserve to have your car door popped out and you dragged out on the ground. And then when John Smith is like, you know, and the police are saying this has nothing to do with you as everything to do with him. Has everything to do with him, has everything to do with the community, has everything to do with anybody. And again, the Walter Payton man of the year, the man of the year was thrown in cuffs. And and he was you just watch the body cam footage. He's not being threatening. He's not being threatened by any stretch of the imagination. Because you have him had a six eight three hundred thirty pound man.
Now the chances of something going really bad because they're afraid of him. I understand that that I understand. But the whole thing, soup to nuts, was an outrage.
Just and I the Dolphins put out a very strident statement. I know there are a lot of people who think these police officers should be fired. You do.
I do as an ex cop. That was it was to me. That was I told T.J.
I said it completely. That was insane what they did for a moving violation or supposed moving violation. That's not even if it's a felon or someone like that and the car comes back as this guy just robbed banks.
There's a totally different story. Then I understand these guys coming in with that. They that one that second guy came in so fast.
He came in hot. Exactly. And then he's just standing there and he's putting him in a chokehold. Are you chokehold? Are you kidding me?
While he's yelling to Johnny Smith, call Drew Rosenhouse. I wore a gun and I got that disgrace as as an ex cop that went wore a gun. Crazy. I just I can't I ran a badge. I can't believe that those guys did that. Let's see. Here's what happens now. Right now you're going to get another situation where someone's going to get pulled over and that person's going to run and something's going to happen. Why did they run? Because now they're afraid because now fear is instilled in them because they saw this as opposed for them handling the situation in the same way that the police officer who once upon a time pulled you aside, handled it with you. And again, I just want to say this, too. We are not anti-police. Please understand that.
No, my brother, by any stretch of the imagination, we are anti-police acting in the manner that this body cam footage revealed. Our number three coming up. Hey, it's Rich Eisen here. Join me and my compadre, Chris Brockman, every Monday on the overreaction Monday podcast. A 2023 last place team will win a playoff game this year. I'm taking the Cincinnati Bengals to be that team.
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