The NFL Is A Highly Secretive And Very Paranoid League

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We re-air a couple times on that. So there's no excuses. That's basically what I'm saying. There's no excuses.

Before we get to our NFC West predictions, I just, you know, I am hesitant to talk about the sports television business because I'll be honest, I don't know how much our fan base or folks care about it. It's inside baseball. It is. You know what I mean? It's like inside. It's, you know, you turn on the TV either like the announcers or you don't. You turn on the TV and some people don't notice the difference or care about the difference in quality of broadcasts with graphics and things. I know you do, Mike, but that's what I'm saying. I don't know if...

Most people don't care. But when Tom Brady's involved, I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's different. And Tom Brady has put in paperwork to become a minority owner of the Las Vegas Raiders, and we know that's been the case for a while. And last year, Brady was in line to call games, but took the year off because he signed a massive deal worth $37.5 million a year, reportedly, to call games for Fox Sports. Greg Olsen, who's the reigning Emmy award winner for best game analyst. He's been terrific in that role with Kevin Burkhardt as the lead play-by-play team and announce team for the NFL on Fox. Terrific listen. Terrific watch.

Brady's now in with Burkhardt and Greg Olsen is going to be doing games with Joe Davis, who's been killing it with all these Otani moments the last couple of weeks, by the way. Last night was incredible, right? Right. His dog threw out the first pitch. I know. Good old decoy.

Sweet dog. And then, of course, he just one hands a home run in his first at bat on bobblehead night, but that's neither here nor there. And so with Brady calling games and also seeking to be a part owner in the NFL, Seth Wickersham of ESPN put out a story on ESPN.com last night that the NFL in its latest membership meeting brought up the Brady petition to become an owner of the Raiders. They did not still entertain whether or not to approve it, but did bring up Brady rules that will be put in place for him to call games on Fox because to call games professionally, you have meetings with both teams beforehand and teams frequently, definitely pre-COVID, would have you physically into the facility. You would go visit the teams. And John Madden was one of the first announcers to say, I want to see practice too. And that's been part and parcel of certainly the top broadcast teams way of going about their business is to physically walk into the facility of the teams that they're going to cover. Certainly the home team, because they're going to go to the game early enough to go visit the home team. And if it's possible, visit the road team face to face meetings with the coach, quarterback, and other players. Again, when I call these games internationally and locally here too, I'm part of this. We, because we're the broadcast team of a national game, we're asking for the quarterback. We're asking for the star players on both sides of the ball.

We're asking for the coach. And very frequently we get them and we meet with them. And they're very honest. They're on the record conversations. And sometimes they ask to say, this is not suitable for broadcast and give you something. And the quarterbacks, because I sit with Kurt in these meetings, when the quarterbacks talk with Kurt, you know, I feel like I need to be hooked on phonics. Like it's a different language that they talk. And it's great to see.

It's great to sit there as a fly on the wall and hear this, these X's and O's talking. And the quarterbacks are very honest about the situation. When Brady was the quarterback in our production meeting in Munich, he was really honest about how the offense was struggling and the way that the practices were going weren't to his liking. And he was wondering about the way the practices were set up and things of that nature.

And it was wild, man. And the league is apparently saying, if Brady is going to call these games and become an owner of the Raiders, this is what Seth Wickersham wrote, that he's not allowed to set foot in someone else's facility. He is not allowed to talk to anybody on the teams. He is not allowed to be part of any of these broadcast meetings at all because he's an owner of the Raiders. And you know, the Raiders might want to pick his brain. Now that is kind of, to be honest, insulting to Brady that he might actually utilize his platform with Fox is to be sort of a mole for the Raiders. Like he would put the Fox team that he now calls his new colleagues in jeopardy by not being the lead analyst for the team, but actually to be a mole for the Raiders.

And you know who doesn't care about that? I'm sure the owners of the Chiefs and the Broncos and the Chargers and anybody else who's playing the Raiders, they're not going to take the chance. And this is a highly secretive, very paranoid league, the National Football League. And here's the crazy thing, because as you know, Brady is not yet a partial owner of the Raiders. Rob Monti of the Associated Press reported today that these rules are in place now because he's petitioning to be an owner of the Raiders. So as long as these papers are in to try and be an owner, they're already placing these rules on him now, which is a major handicap to Brady's ability to do the job to the best of his ability. So I honestly don't know what the answer is to all this, but this is wild. I've never heard of anything quite like, well, I shouldn't say that when Greg Olsen called the game while he was a member still playing in the league, he wasn't allowed to talk to the other teams.

He wasn't allowed to visit a facility. And just in case anybody's wondering about how, you know, is this an outlier or not? Does the NFL, is it just trying to punish Brady or whatever, for whatever reason you might have? When NFL Network first started, we had a campaign for NFL Total Access that people still talk to me about today, because it really was very well done.

It was the song by Traffic, Dear Mr. Fantasy. And they placed me in my suit and tie and all of these NFL situations as if I'm sitting in these rooms, the meeting room, I was sitting in a meeting room with Mike Vick and Dan Reeves, okay? I was, I went underneath the hood with an official and I gave the sign like, I can't tell whether this is a good call or not. I went ring shopping, watch shopping with Deuce McAllister of the Saints.

They put me in all these situations, right? And it was fun. And the tagline was, being rich doesn't suck. Because it was for Total Access.

Here I am, I'm giving you the access on NFL Total Access. And this commercial was showing you all these moments. Well, when we shot that scene in the film room in Atlanta with Vick and Dan Reeves, we were legitimately in the actual film room in Atlanta. Like I flew to Georgia for that shot.

And on that same day, for whatever reason, they shot the shot of me firing off footballs through a JUGS machine to Tory Holt of the Rams. They shot that scene there in Atlanta as well. They made Tory Holt, the Falcons did, sit and they had to get a trailer for Tory Holt specifically for him. And the trailer was outside of the Flowery Branch, Georgia property of the Falcons. He wasn't even allowed in the trailer, wasn't even allowed on the property.

They didn't want to even see the practice field, what it looked like. Cause he was a Ram. And they were in the same division. And they were in the same division. This was before, you know, back in the day when the Falcons were in that cockamamie idea that the Falcons were in the West and so was St. Louis.

Okay. And so they were division rivals. The Falcons were like, he doesn't set foot, like fine, you can, you can shoot it. You know, there's this grassy area that's far away where he can't even see any of our practice fields. We'll let you shoot it there. Cause I guess he was in Atlanta and he was in the area, but setting foot in the facility, seeing the inside of the facility, they didn't care. Like go. I said to myself that we get like the trailer, I assume has a bathroom because they're going to just make them go in the woods.

They wouldn't let them inside. This is the way it has been forever. So I don't know, is Brady going to have to choose?

Cause this is a, this is not an optimum way to call games. No, and start his broadcast career, which is arguably the most anticipated we've ever seen in the, in the business. Right. Yeah. This is kind of a, it's not surprising, but it's, it's stunning because the AP is saying this is happening now.

Pretty stunning. So he can't talk to Stefanski. He can't talk to Deshaun Watson or Miles Garrett. Fox can and maybe give him the notes. This is what we gleaned, but zooming with him or even zooming, he can't zoom in. He can't have contact with, and he also can't be, he can't denigrate officiating.

Right. Cause if you're an owner in the NFL, you are not allowed to publicly criticize officials. He'd be fine. He'd be subject to penalties. So like, if it's a, how many times you see calls that are rightfully questioned in a broadcast, are they going to let it slide a little bit? So if Brady doesn't go all in on something that you're like, why wouldn't the lead analyst be, call what we're seeing, be blunt about it? He can't. He can't.

In a weird, in a weird way, it's very similar to coaches not criticizing other coaches on the, all these shows. Yeah. I mean, because it's a fraternity. Right.

But, but, but, but that's different. You're, you're the lead analyst or Fox. Like what about the NFC championship game? He's in the booth and, and something similar happens with the no pass interference.

Like with the Rams and the saints, he's not going to say that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. I'd imagine Fox would cover the fine. Right. It's not a fine. It's, he's an all like what the find up for the NFL to Brady. Yeah.

I don't know, pal. I mean, we've seen Mark Cuban rack up all these fines over the years. You know, when you're a partner of the national football league, you know what you say most of the time? Thank you. May I have another, you do not, you do not ruffle the feathers of three 45 park Avenue, especially when they might reopen the television contracts in a couple of years. There there's, there's a memory.

I'll be I'm, I am shooting you as straight as I possibly can. I get it. I get it.

And also it's Tom Brady is, wow. I read that and I'm like, wow. Okay. Why would you want to do it then? I don't know.

Cause I think he digs the idea of doing it. And I think, by the way, in terms of how good he can be amazing, I will just say this, I will just say this, and then we'll do our NFC West predictions before O'Shea comes out here. I will say this the best. And by the way, did I say that Roma was going to be good at it when I first heard that?

Okay. The best analysts are the ones who not only know the game cold, okay. The best analysts are the ones who can put themselves from their experiences into the analysis. I did this.

I did that. I remember when this happened to me, how many analysts can do can tell, can, can bring the following to the equation. One overlooked in the draft. Two had to wait a year. Three got the opportunity to start out of the blue. Four made the most of that opportunity.

Five worst question, whether you should have had the opportunity to begin with. Six got the opportunity and took the team all the way to the AFC championship game, only to get hurt, to have the veteran who you had supplanted take the team to the Superbowl. Seven, then get the job in the Superbowl and win it. Then, hold on a second, then win three out of four in your first four seasons.

Not make the playoffs after making the Superbowl. Winning two in a row. Going for three in a row.

You think that might be some valuable insight? Going for three in a row? And what happens when you're going for a three-peat this year?

You think that might be valuable? Oh, wait a minute. Getting your knee blown out. Getting hurt. Coming back from a knee injury. Winning early in your career.

Becoming as famous as you could possibly get out of the blue how to handle fame. Then, going 10 years not winning one. Losing Superbowls in heartbreaking fashion. Going an entire season undefeated.

Wait a minute. Then winning three out of four again. Winning one Superbowl out of the blue. Winning the Superbowl that goes into overtime for the first time ever. Coming back in a Superbowl 28 to 3. Oh, wait a minute.

We're not done yet. Then, later in your career, you play as a 40-year-old. What's that like?

Wait a minute. You then switch teams after having a great 20-year run. Then you switch teams and win a Superbowl in your first year there.

Oh, and also playing for one of the greatest coaches of all time. Who can do all of that? There's one unicorn. Now, you've just got to be able to get in and out of snaps and get the broadcasting part down. And he strikes me as somebody who's going to figure that one out.

So, I hope this stuff gets figured out. Because, my God, can he bring all of this to the table? Crying on draft day. Get out of here. On and on and on.

Okay. Every single day this week and all the way up till Wednesday, we're going to be predicting divisions. We finish up the NFC today with the NFC West. Hit the music, please. Chris Brockman. You go first.

What do you got for me? Who wins the NFC West? I weirdly think this is going to finish. I've been kind of off the board. You guys have been kind of thrown by someone.

You're going chunky, huh? I'm going to do it. It's going to finish the exact same as last year. Niners, Rams, Seahawks, Cardinals. However, I don't think the Niners are going to win 12 games. And I don't think the Cardinals are going to win four.

They're going to be a little more bunched together. Maybe someone gets to 11 and six. But I could really see Arizona winning seven, eight games. Seattle winning eight, nine games. The Rams win 10 or 11. And it kind of comes down to the last week for who wins the division.

TJ Jefferson, your NFC West analysis, sir. Look, I'm just going to save us time. Just clip what Chris said. Yeah.

Put it over my mouth and we'll... There it is. I think everyone there is going to win at least eight.

I think eight to 12. Yeah. I think the Cardinals, you know, I got Kyle Murray on my fantasy team last night, so I'm expecting big things. I think they're going to be a good football team. I just think they're going to finish fourth in the Niners. They're clearly the most talented team in this division. So I'd like to say at least eight wins for all of them.

I think it's going to be a fun division. Okay. I think the only difference is from yours, Chris, and yours, TJ, is my photograph is the least smug out of all of it. You're smiling. I'm smiling. You guys are trying to look bad ass like you're trying to scare everybody with your headshots.

He didn't submit those pictures. I will say this in the Niners repeating his division champs and the Rams coming close again and the Seahawks being better than people think. And you know, the Cardinals are my sleeper team for the year.

I still don't see them. I see them vying for that seventh final playoff spot. And the same thing with the the Seahawks potentially being better in that regard. How about this for a prediction? Nobody sweeps anybody this year. I like that. I really like everybody gets a piece of everybody else this year.

I'm down. How about that? Yeah. That nobody sweeps the Cardinals. That means everybody's three and three in division, right? Yeah.

That would be super fun. I'm also, and I think it's fair to say this, really worried about what's going on with the Niners with Brandon Iuke and Trent Williams. This is not nothing. Those things get done, man. We have yet to see Christian McCaffrey do anything for over a month.

Okay. That's pretty concerning. And we see them on the first Monday night of the season against the Jets. That's going to be a good one. And that's our NFC West predictions. All right, let's take a break and come back and light this candle. The candle being O'Shea Jackson Jr. That's next.

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And look who has stopped by here on The Rich Eisen Show, one of our favorite in-studio guests, O'Shea Jackson Jr. Blessings, Rich. And you brought gifts. What do you got? Oh, man, you know. Or props? What do we have here? Yeah, you know, this is my most prized possession right here.

I've had this baby since I was in fourth grade. My parents asked me, what did I want for Christmas? And I said, I want the World Wrestling Federation Heavyweight Championship.

And they go, okay, all right. And then I saw it under the tree, wrapped up, because you can't hide that it's a belt. And Christmas Eve, they let you pick one gift. Picked this up, slept with it, took it everywhere I went. And to this day, I have this baby.

The leather is super soft. So it feels genuine. And I felt like it was appropriate for today.

It is appropriate for today, because screw it. You want to just say it? Should we say it right here?

Yeah, go ahead. Okay. So I'm nervous. It's okay. Don't be. The Rich Eisen Podcast Network is putting together a new wrestling podcast with you and TJ Jefferson.

That's right. My brother in destruction. Let's go. Absolutely, man. Coming soon.

We're going to start cultivating this caper. Is it untitled at this point in time? Untitled. I got a bunch of names. I love it.

Brought some names to the equation. I love it. He's prepared. Man. And so it's an honor to be a part of your team picking me up.

Thank you. And yeah, let's make the internet upset. That's your forte, isn't it? I'm really a chill dude. I just can't deal with stupidity.

Everyone just keeps coming at you for no reason. I'm minding my business. Just let me watch anime and wrestling and talk Laker nonsense and everybody will be fine. It's insane. I love it. And the internet wrestling community, they're ready.

It's a special sort of folks. We've been talking, thanks to your guidance, TJ, and your fandom and your love of wrestling. We talk more wrestling here than I ever thought we would in the history of our program.

You're a good man. He loves it. He can't get enough of it. And same thing with you, O'Shea Jackson Jr. And again, for our radio audience just rejoined us starting, we'll announce the start date shortly, a weekly pod, you and TJ chopping up wrestling every single week through the Rich Eyes and Podcast Network. And you'll blow it.

You guys will just blow the microphones. It is my dream to infiltrate people's minds with my opinion. I will do this aggressively and truthfully for you twice a week. I appreciate it. Wow. Okay. We got to do an emergency every now and then. You got to call an emergency audible.

We might have to recap about a PLE or a PPE. Yeah, man, we can't be late to the party. I love it. Because, you know, AEW, WWE, all that good stuff. They both of them know it's coming. They know it's coming. Oh, also, I know there's a stigma about me.

What is that? I will be talking, I will be talking equally about WWE and AEW. You have to. I told me. You have to. Absolutely. We're talking about everything in the wrestling world, and we got to become the number one in the world.

You can't do that by being one sided. I love it. TJ. My goal right now, I'm going to put this out there. I'm not a bold type cat, but my goal is to have him and I join you two at the Fanatics Fest next year. Okay.

There's one that's coming and there's one that's coming in LA in March. So maybe we're there waiting for you, Rich. Okay. That's where I ran into. We ran into Triple H there, and I told him that this might be coming, and he's a big fan of yours, O'Shea Jackson. I got the hunter nod.

Yeah, you did. He goes, that sounds great. That's what he said.

I don't know if he said that. I'm going to react to this off camera. Okay.

This is going to be good. He was also, by the way, if you've never met him, enormous. Well, yeah, it's like breaking news, but he's huge in person. Yeah, dude.

Monster, dude. The game. Shout out to the game. So we're excited. I'm thrilled that you're game for it and that you're ready to do it. And TJ, you've been ready for this moment as well, and I'm thrilled to be able to provide it. And everybody, don't you worry, you'll know exactly when we're going to be doing this and what it will be called. But as a matter of fact, we're having a little meeting after today's program. So we can do that.

O'Shea Jackson Jr. is here on the Rich Eisen show. Okay. So let's just jump into the sports world. Are you as much of a Rams fan as you are a Laker fan or not really? I mean, there's, it's really hard to match my Lakerdom, but I mean, the Rams, you know, since they returned, I'm like the only one in my household who's been like really going for the Rams. Also, I want to remind everybody I'm not married.

This is the Lord of the Rings ring. I'm married to this nerd life. You're still eligible. You have to take yourself off the market here. I've been, uh, I've been supporting the Rams, you know, since the move in 2016, I hosted the party that Nike threw to introduce Todd Gurley shot to Todd Gurley and Jared Goff to the city. But yeah, I've been part of this Ramilia for a long time.

Okay. So you are, but so does that, you're an outcast in your, in your household. I'm the last one in the Jackson server to get a Superbowl dad, but yeah, it's hard.

It's hard being the only Rams fan. I was on the ticket campaign. They didn't care. They didn't care. I didn't get a pat on the back. It was like, Oh, that's nice.

My dad's the president of the Raider nation. So you know how that went. I know that. And they're, they're going to be here then. So far week one, they're coming to play the charges to week one. Yeah.

That's how I feel about that. A fan of the Raiders at all. I mean, I always have a piece of the Raiders in my heart. I mean, it's just, it's impossible, but they just treat my dad so terribly. What do you mean? I mean, first of all, as soon as they got good, they went to Vegas.

They just left California in general. And like, as a kid, who's watched his dad, I'm his head into the wall every season because of these guys. It upsets me and upsets me quite a bit. They haven't been good since both eyes. Okay. It's terrible. Okay.

So their, their, their level of play is what's upset me, man. So good. At least for my dad, please just be good. Is your pops still a Raiders fan? Cause you famously once said, stop giving juice to the Raiders. Never paid us. Listen, if you ask my dad, the, he is the reason why black jerseys are even a thing.

If NWA didn't skyrocket the Raiders, the Raiders merchandise sales, the white socks wouldn't be black and white spurs, never everybody who has a black Jersey, he gives himself complete credit because of the, the merchandise sales of the Raiders during NWA. That's funny. What a monster, what a monster. I assume you, you noticed Chris dressed for the occasion of you coming in here today. Yeah. And you know, let me just get this out the way because it disgusts me, but Chris, you are the only Celtic fan that I care about. Thank you, sir.

So I'll tell you congratulations. And with a grain of salt, I will say no one cared because the Olympics came on right after the Olympics. Steve Kirk did what the rest of the NBA couldn't do, which was to stop Jason Taylor. That that was low key. What really hurt. But I loved it really hurt people play.

That's what I mean. And by the way, also they kind of, Kirk kind of did us a favor, like the FU revenge tour that's coming. Cause not only was Jalen Brown, not on the team obviously should have been Tatum. Didn't even play insane, but you had two other players and they got no love. Nobody cared about a lucky gold medalist drew holiday.

So anyway, yeah, man. Yeah, man, we had, they needed Derek white on the team for that matchup against the Serbian. You'd never heard of that Greek guy to go to his left. Some guy. I'm sorry.

A first team, all NBA player who's six, 10 and can do everything. He couldn't have guarded them. I'm sorry. You're right. Steve curse. Sorry.

I bowed down. You're going to tell Steve Kerr, bro. He's a coach.

That's right. Relax. Get out of here. I think Steve Kerr is overrated.

So there's, whoa, we'll talk about that off camera. You know, it's really easy. We have the greatest back court ever. Oh, Curry bailed them out again. Shocker.

All right. So what do you think about your Lakers? First of all, we're winning the championship every year. I don't know what you thought I was going to say, but anything other than that would not be me go Lakers from the bottom of my heart.

Uh, JJ Reddick, I completely believe in you because LeBron believes in you. Yes. I've turned into that guy. I feel like, uh, number one, I'm happy to have a team where we're focused on chemistry again, after we won the championship and just blew it up. Yeah. We have been chasing chemistry year after year after year, just switching up the roster. Now I feel like with this crew of guys, we've been together almost three years now. We'll have some sort of just, you know, mesh and also play Rui. Come on, bro. Rui's working out with LeBron for summers now.

And, you know, we finally got the pork off the fork, you know, no ham. And so it's, uh, it's, it's important. It's important that LeBron and really get that on court time that they've been practicing during the summer. So you're in a JJ Reddick. You're into that idea. Absolutely. I think it's an inspired hire. I think it's different and we'll see what happens, you know, like shake it up. I hope he becomes the Sean McVay of the NBA. Interesting analogy right there.

Yeah. Cause when Sean McVay got hired, I was like, how old is he? And then he came in and destroyed and I'm the Sean McVay guy. So, um, you know, normally when we have a game here on the rich eyes NGO called the win loss game, where we have fans of the football programs that they love so much fans of football teams, they love so much. They, they call in and we show them the 17 game schedule and they say win or loss, depending on the up. I was prepared to say 82 and oh, so I'm glad we're going to football. Well, I mean, actually we have actually placed on the screen, the 17 first 17 games of the Lakers schedule. Okay. And I want O'Shea Jackson Jr. You to play the win loss game for the Los Angeles Lakers.

First 17 games. I was coming here to talk wrestling. I know that what is going on, but it's called a curve ball feeling ambushed. What do you think? I mean, let's do it. All right, let's do it. Okay.

Put up on the screen. Please. The Lakers open up against the Minnesota Timberwolves. What happens? Okay. That's going to be fun. We just had, we just had Carl Anthony Townsend in that seat. Yeah. What do you think this week?

What do you think it does feel a little, is that a win or a loss? Well, we're going to completely go after Rudy go bear. So I'm going to go over that's a win.

Okay. You open up with three in a row at home home for Phoenix. We, we dismantle Phoenix all year last year. So that's two and oh yeah. You start two and a home for sack.

Now this right here, a back to back year, this right here, because I don't like that. So bonus record against Anthony Davis. Yes.

And I feel like he's due. So that's a win right there. You know, then two days later in Phoenix, got a five game roadie here. Right. All right. Phoenix.

Where are any of these? Yeah. No back to back. Okay. So we were going to win at Phoenix. Okay. What about at Cleveland? Yeah. LeBron loves playing at Cleveland.

They got a nice young scrappy little team. I really don't like saying that we're going to have losses on TV, bro. Okay.

So I don't know what you're doing for my reputation. Are you really saying they start 17? I'm just saying all I see at Cleveland at Detroit at Philadelphia might be annoying.

So I'll say 16 and one, no, 17 and oh, can't do it. Not catching me. You got games, you know, at, at new Orleans, always a problem. Trip you up.

It's really good. Zion looks amazing. It's crazy that like, they're not going to be able to do anything with it, but it's, it's, do you look good? Look good on the Knicks or wherever he wants to go later on. You're not scared of new Orleans, bro.

So 17 and old. Right at the house with the way the market is right now, you're not going to catch me. You're not going to catch me on any type of publication, disrespecting the purple and go, okay, come on, man. I'll be delusional if I have to. So on, you know, I know it's a wrestling pod.

Will you guys ever venture into Lakers clippers or you want to get us started off on a bad foot? He just lost Paul George. All right. He's got a new house. It looks amazing.

I mean, it looks great. Bruno Mars opened it up. I heard people got stuck outside though. That's a good sign. It was a grand opening. So you'll have those most toilets in Los Angeles or something crazy like that. That's a fact. I went and I checked that personally. I made a video.

There's a whole lot of toilets up in that piece. I'm getting banned. I am getting banned from Intuit facial recognition. They won't let you in dude. Listen, they got a survivor series. I think it's going to be there. You don't want to get banned basketball is going to be there in 28. Listen, listen, I'm going to have so much purple on.

It's going to be insane. Well, you just can't sit on the wall. No one can sit on the wall because they locked the seats. That's genius. That's what I paid for. By the way, it's steep there. By the way, somebody's going to drink a little too much and they are going to fall.

I see the world star video already. So you're not really into it. That's what you're saying. You're not into it. That's why I come on this show right there. Not getting that anywhere else, folks. You're really not getting that. They're not into it, everybody. So you think PG gone and Ty Lou's not going to try and figure this thing out.

I mean, it's his job to try and figure it out, Rich. But losing Paul George when you weren't winning with Paul George or without Paul George doesn't help. You know, and Clipper fans know how I feel about them.

They started it. And I will remind them every chance I get that you're a bunch of losers, not TJ. Full on purple wearing O'Shea Jackson Jr. stepping up to the spot where you probably do need facial recognition to get in with the with the way that they're handling their app business.

You're like a stroll up there. You know, Mo Bomba's on the team, right? You better act according to what is sneaky old. Sneaky old is crazy. He's thirty three. That's sneaky old NBA. Not anymore. LeBron has damn.

I'm thirty three line back. You haven't had multiple devastating knee injuries. That's true. That's true. You just look ridiculous the way you're dressed right now.

That's the point. I just wanted to remind what happened. You know, I look like Kevin Federal. I got that.

I got that lead. I didn't have a youth jersey. You had a, you know, youth hat or something. One year I had the wrong hat.

That's the Chris I know in logic. Or is your head just too big as usual? This is the parade gear. I don't know. All right, let's take a break. We'll wrap up this show with O'Shea Jackson Jr. I got a couple questions and then maybe you guys will just start chopping up a wrestling idea or two to give people an idea of what's coming to the podcast world.

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Sorry to get this wrong. The ring doesn't survive. It's the one ring to rule them all, bro. Yeah, man.

It only felt fitting. I had no idea we were in middle earth right now. Okay. So who's your favorite character from Lord of the Rings? Oh my God, dude.

The ring. Yeah. Yeah. Probably.

No, but I mean, it's, it's hard not to lie. Honestly, if we really want to talk like the whole shebang bang, not just the Lord of the Rings, but like the Hobbit. I think the most interesting dragon ever made was Smaug. Like that dude, like who did it? Benedict Cumberbatch played him.

And I was just so captivated by just like, I really care about this dragon. He's the villain. He kind of sucks. I was like, dude, I can watch you all day.

He kind of sucks, bro. So that's your, do you, did you watch Game of Thrones or you were into that too? Oh yeah.

So that's another thing I want to get to. I want to remind everybody that Bran Stark is a snake. All right. He's a snake. Not to be trusted. He knew what was going to happen. You like, you're just this fortune teller jerk.

And then just let a bunch of people die and you are not my true king. Oh shit, Jackson. Come on, bro.

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Call click granger.com or just stop by. All right. This first time you been here since cocaine bear came out. Oh right. Yeah. Okay. So it's been a while. It's been a minute since you've been here. The title still kills me. He hasn't seen us fix the studio.

Well, I mean, that's true. We've got a cocaine bear hat actually over there. Thanks to our friends, Max and Liz, the producers. Here you go over here. You got it. You got the cocaine bear hat? Yeah. A lot of people are like, Oh, Chicago bears, huh? I'm like, no, no, no. It says cocaine bear.

Honest. You know, can't, can't figure out why we weren't nominated. You know, I just, that movie just keeps just flying off the rails, flying off the rails. When you shot that, I mean, what was, what was going through your mind on the set of shooting cocaine bear, man? I mean, number one, I couldn't believe I was there because I'm in Ireland shooting that and we're pretending to be the South and America. So it was just like, this seems a little different. And then, uh, you know, just to be able to be there to work with Elizabeth was super cool, but I was just having fun, you know, shout out to my guy, uh, uh, Aldin Aaron, right. That's, that's a really good friend of mine.

We had an amazing time and it was, uh, it was some of the, the best times I've had acting because of the crew and the people I got to hang with. The part that, uh, was whack was in, uh, October. It's really cold in Ireland. I had to get in that river and, uh, I don't really like that.

You know, I'm from, uh, I'm from California, you know, I like a nice 78 degree day and I'm in a river in Ireland in October at about two in the morning. And that's a, that's not a good time to be in a river. And so that was, uh, that, that, that sucked.

But I got to hang out with Ray Liotta, which was really cool. Yeah. You got a good story about that?

I don't know. It's a family program, Rich, but he's a great BS talker. He was top tier S tier trash talker. And, uh, it was really cool to be able to have that on, like, as a notch in my belt for my career, you know, with us losing raid, uh, hit hard, it hit hard, you know, because I just met the guy, just got to know the guy and he was gone.

It was like a dream. So you can't clean it up. What did he do? Or do something?

We just talk, you know, when you're sitting on set for hours at a time, you got to talk trash about anything, you know, whether it be the food, you know, letting people know that this was some of the best pedigree I've ever eaten, you know, just like any type of garbage talk is, uh, you're just shooting the, I can't cuss on you, Rich. No, I hear you. No, I got it. So, uh, the bear being there, did you have to act thinking the bear was there? Did they have like a fake bear there? It was a, it was a big dude and a leotard named, uh, Allen. And, uh, we called him, uh, Allen bear and he walks around with a bear head, like extension.

And he has to walk on all fours. He was actually one of the, uh, uh, creature actors in Lord of the rings. Yeah. He was like, he's a bunch of different things in Lord of the rings.

Yeah. And he has to walk on all fours for like all day. And, uh, it's great for the lower back, but he's a good dude.

Big, uh, things from New Zealand, but, uh, yeah, super dope guys. Uh, Allen bear shot to Allen bear. Did they test Allen bear for cocaine? Did he have to, I don't want to get into this personal life, you know, you know, as long as you showed up for work on time every day and didn't bother nobody.

And then after that, I got to go to, uh, Spain and the Canary islands to shoot dinner thieves too. Finally. Yeah. Finally. It's in the can, it's in the can and we're finishing it up. I can't tell you an exact release date, but you will see it next year.

Next year, 2025. Yeah. Dinner thieves too. Dinner thieves too. Okay.

More dinner thieves year than the last. Okay. Excellent. Right. That is outstanding news. Yeah.

Cannot wait. No doubt. And, and you were in the, uh, the star Wars show as well. Oh yes. Obi-Wan Kenobi. Obi-Wan Kenobi. Yeah.

That was awesome. Dude. You're in the star Wars universe. I know forever too.

That's the best part. And, uh, I got a Funko pop. I'm really doing big things. All right. I'm out here. You're not getting NBA championships, but you got a Funko pop. Congratulations. Look at this face.

He's just ready to just pop over here. You know, there's nothing worse than a leprechaun dude. You know, they, they, they won all their titles when they were separated drinking fountains and they just really try to just run that up. The world was still in black and white. That's all right.

Black and white. Well, y'all was winning titles from another state. It's totally fine. Same name, same name. Anyway, guys, we'll get off camera so I can curse a little bit, but, uh, yeah, dude, I did Obi-Wan. Shout out to you and McGregor, uh, Hayden Christensen. Um, that was really fun.

Yeah. You know, that was really cool. Um, showed up to work early just to be there, stayed for days that I wasn't scheduled just so I could watch Vader fight. And I got to kill some stormtroopers. Did you snag a lightsaber or something like that?

No, no, no, no, no. They say, make sure you don't take a damn thing. Yeah. It's, uh, it's really crazy too, because usually when, you know, you have something, um, like your schedule for the day, you like to get the sides the night before, which is like the script for what senior about to do the night before.

So you can, you know, remember it. And, uh, they don't, they don't really do that. Disney is like, uh, yeah, bro, no, we're not, uh, emailing you the script. What do you think you are? So I have to, on the day in my dressing room, learn words that just aren't real. This isn't a real thing. Like they're not, it's not a practical thing for me to say.

You gotta, you gotta remember it on fly, bro. You're a professional and you're a talker. You're, you're a natural talker.

I am, I am. Which is why, you know, you and TJ are going to crush this wrestling pod. What is the number one story in wrestling right now in your estimation? I know in, in my personal opinion, uh, I'm loving the return of our, of mine, your hour, tribal chief Roman reigns. Also, uh, Daniel, I keep calling him Daniel, Brian, I'm sorry, Brian Daniels. Brian Daniels is the new AW world champion. He's going up against Jack Perry. Um, I have my thoughts about that, but I'll save it for the pot.

Sounds good. Was Jack Perry, the one who put Tony con in a, uh, Jack Perry was the one who hit con in the stomach. And then the rest of the elite came out, put them in the TK driver, almost killed the man, left them laying in the middle of the ring.

I saw the, uh, which got something to show you right now. The neck brace is right there. As a matter of fact, that is the Tony con net brace autographed and donated to St. Jude for a hundred thousand dollars. That's a piece of history right there.

That's it. That's the only neck brace ever worn in an NFL draft room. And honestly, honestly, bro, when I saw him in the draft room with it, I was so thankful. I was so thankful. I was like that he was able to push through and still be there for those Jaguars. I was trying to explain that to Richard and the draft. I'm like, this man is lucky. He's not in the hospital. He's like, he made it to the draft. You ever been TK driven? Well, when Brian Thomas scores, his first career touchdown, he will make NFL history as the first draft choice to ever score a touchdown after being drafted by a team with somebody in the draft room wearing a neck brace because he suffered from a TK driver.

That's that's how totally common is extending history, right? That's a very long winded record. I don't have a smile on his face too. Cause you, you gotta understand the amount of pain he was in right now was off the charts. His dad is clearly concerned about his son's wellbeing. God, I want to kick it with his dad. His dad came under the ring for the first time when it happened. His dad had never been in the ring, but he had to check on his boy concern, you know, concern. He came out like the Don Vito. They massacred my boy.

Look how they massacred my boy. That was a great reference. O'Shea Jackson Jr. Excited for you to be part of our podcast world here. Part of the Rich Eisen podcast world in any way, shape or form.

The podcast with you and TJ currently untitled, but we will get that title out and the first date everyone will definitely know when it's out there. Thanks for doing this. Thanks for being here on the program.

Absolutely. I live here now. Trust me, we'll have you in here as much as you possibly can.

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