Clarence E. Hill Jr.: Dak Prescott Has All The Leverage

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That's the record. How many are going to start week one, which dovetailed into the final question of the training camp season is who's going to be the starting quarterback of the new England Patriots. And just like the last time we saw three quarterbacks go one, two, three to start an NFL draft in 2021, there were five selections in that first round in the first 15 picks, interestingly enough, including the new England Patriots as well. The last time we saw one, two, three quarterbacks, the first two started the third did not to start the season. And we got that again because today Gerard Mayo head coach, new England Patriots went with Jacoby Brissette and he did it this way. You know, just like I told you guys a few days ago, there was a, you know, it's a process, uh, as far as selecting who's the starting quarterback is, uh, we have decided, or I have decided that Jacoby Brissette will be our starting quarterback, uh, this season. Now in saying that as an organization, we're a hundred percent behind Jacoby.

There is no, um, you know, you got a guy right here, you got a guy right there. We're a hundred percent behind Jacoby. And, um, I, I had an opportunity to talk to Drake. I had an opportunity to talk to Jacoby separately and also together. Um, and I feel like we're all on the same page from an organizational perspective. So here's my two opinions on this. I got two takes. They're all from the same silo of, uh, of the take.

Okay. Gerard Mayo making this move in my estimation is not talking about maybe Drake May's readiness. He's talking potentially about the Patriots readiness to start Drake May and a head coach is not going to come out there and say, Hey, this is our very important piece of Tiffany that we can win the actual piece of Tiffany that we've got, you know, six times over in the case inside because of a certain recent red jacketed individual was part of that, that, um, we're just not going to be able to protect him. I'm just wondering if that KJ Henry sack of Jacoby Brissett sealed it and that that might've been the final decision maker for Gerard Mayo. He won't say it publicly. He won't admit it potentially, even privately because Drake May certainly seemed to outperform Jacoby Brissett in the final throws of training camp. And if this is a true competition, then maybe Drake May did win it.

But the prizes that await that win, I don't think the Patriots want, because it's a prize in terms of a privilege to start in the national football league and be a week one rookie starter in the national football league, let alone being the third overall pick in the NFL, let alone being the quarterback of the new England Patriots. Um, I don't know if it's any prize to be behind the line that's being thrown out there and the weapons that are around them are not, uh, there's the weapons that Caleb Williams and Jayden Davis at their disposal. And so I think this may be, although disappointing to May and, um, certainly to any of those out there that are seeking to see daylight between Mayo and anybody else there. I don't know who those people may be, but there are some folks in the new England area that would folks in the new England area that would like to stir things up. Maybe I think this is a prudent decision and one that is wise because not to speak for the fan base.

Anytime I do that, um, there's some pushback. I hear about it from my brother-in-law and my nephews and everybody else up there in new England. Um, I don't think there's any clamoring for it either.

To have Drake Mason? Correct. Oh, uh, I don't know about that. I think the fan base, when it all comes down to it, just like you sitting here, there's a reality. Oh, it's gonna be rough. I think everyone knows it's gonna be a two, three, four win season. And why have the kid go out there and get his brain speed in and potentially have a Bryce Young type year like last year or, God forbid, a David Carr situation where it's just 70, 80 sacks and loss of confidence and then suddenly it's Mac Jones 2.0.

We can't have that. And if the criticism of the final throws of the Belichick era was the improper grooming of a young quarterback, this may be part of their process. And I know it's tougher to say in Girard we trust after the 20 plus years of in Bill we trust. I kind of, I think that is the prudent decision. And I think that May will get in there at some point this season, maybe sooner than we think, but for the first four years, I think the first four weeks of a season where you're starting in Cincinnati and then you've got Seattle strolling in and then a short week at the Jets front seven and then San Francisco, a trip there? Yeah, you don't want to put the kid out there. No, I know Miami and Houston and then a trip to London to take on Jacksonville and then the Jets again is not easy either.

But I don't know. I look at that four game stretch instead of three being on the road, three are at home and one is in Jacksonville's home away from home, Wembley Stadium. I don't mind it if that's where Drake May pops in. I think it's better to do that than the other one. And then just one last opinion here on this matter, and I don't think we should take this for granted, is that after 20 plus years of Bill's way, and it's all about Bill's handling of the football team and the Kraft family delegated, and then to be as honest as I can, had virtually no say, okay? With the exception of maybe the Brady decision with Garoppolo and all that stuff, right?

That seems like Robert. But everything else, it's Bill's way. Oh, they turned it over. They have turned it over. And this could have been a situation where we're going to put our fingerprints from the front office on a football decision because we can.

Because we finally can. Bill's gone. Bill's hanging out with Peyton Manning and Pat McAfee and Eli Manning and the CW. And that's what Bill's doing.

Bill's going to be everywhere. And we got and we got a new coach here and we could have some sort of influence on the quarterback decision. And we're going to let him sip a guy when we'd love to sell 10 jerseys all over the place. And you're not hearing a boomer peep and he's saying the organization's completely behind it. I kind of think that that's cool because the alternative could have been, you know, management, upper management, ownership has really not had much of a 53-man conversation. Interesting, yeah.

And this is the most important decision of the 53 men. And Mayo said, no, we're going to start the veteran that has no long-term future here, with all due respect, as the starter, as the franchise face, as the reason why you're going to try and deal with all that Foxborough traffic to sit in your seat in 20-degree weather. Jacoby's the new Hoyer, is that what you're saying? I don't know. I mean, he could be.

I don't know. And hopefully he does give the Patriots more wins in the fan base, more of an excitement than what we're talking about over the last 12 minutes. It would be super great, a very pleasant surprise if you were able to string together, you know, four, five, six wins, and May doesn't play till December. That would be awesome.

Seems unlikely. Maybe so, but the bottom line is Mayo, you're the new coach here. You run it. We'll own it. You run it. And you want to sit the guy to start the season?

Okay. Now there might've been pushback internally, and I'm talking about, but face forward, ultimately, he made the choice. His team, his choice. They're putting this kid in his hands.

And this is the way he sees fit to start it? In Girard, we trust. Doesn't have the same ring.

He does have some rings, but it doesn't have the same ring figuratively. I just found that interesting. What about Mayo we trust? Does that roll a little better?

The problem is that people don't like Mayo, the condiment. No, those are fight words, sir. Save that, sir, for, let me get this correct, week nine. Tennessee. When they're visiting Will Levis. New England's own. Brought to you by Hellman's. New England's own.

The guy who the Patriots passed on in the previous draft. That's right. That's right. And then it's fighting words for him. Mayo versus Mayo.

Mayo versus Levis. That'll be a great week nine storyline, if he's starting. And I proper think that's starting. And I proper think he could start by then.

It's one of the things you look to schedule. You kind of wish the Pats had that post-London bye week. That'd be a great spot for Drake May to just slide right in there to week eight. You know, they have the late bye. They have a week 14 bye. It should also be pointed out that that's a choice, by the way.

Yeah. When you have, I believe, when you have the International Games, you have the choice, do you want the bye right after? And Pats clearly said no.

Knowing that they had Mayo in the in-house already. I guess with all due respect, traditionally speaking, playing the Jets has been like a bye week. So it's just one of those things we can just... Good one. No, that's okay. That's okay. By the way, it was finally announced today that I'm calling International Games. Oh, congrats. This is what I've been saying over and over and over again.

Congratulations. No, Rich, can they, when you say they, I knew this, but I'm not exactly sure where it falls. When you say they can decide their bye, does it have to be the week after? They can choose the week. They could say, no, no, no, they can't choose when they get their bye. They could choose whether if they want it post-international. And some teams on the East Coast are like, don't do it.

Yeah, don't do it. It's kind of like, you know, flying from New England to London is similar to flying maybe to Seattle the other way. Yeah. So it doesn't make that much. Right. Now, West Coast teams has a different story. Yeah.

844-204, Rich, number to dial. When we come back, the decision on whether to sign Dak before the season, that started our show yesterday. Jerry Jones saying, you know, may not have to get done. It's not urgent to get it. We don't have to get it done. And I don't think we're going to get it done right now. It's unlikely we're going to get it done.

And do the fans really even know, you know, that Dak would have to do with less based on the amount of money that we'll have to give to him after he just gave to CD. All of those sound bites were delivered to Clarence Hill. And we asked Clarence to appear on the program to say, what's up with that? There is less pie. And that's next.

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Call clickgrainger.com or just stop by. Hey everybody, the gift that keeps on giving. Jerry Jones had a press conference yesterday. And this is after he told Clarence Hill, our next guest who's about to join us. He told Clarence the DAC contract doesn't have to get done before the season. Well, if it doesn't, then DAC can walk. Not only can we walk, cause he can't be franchise tagged, can't be traded without his consent. And if he does walk, did you know it's a $40 million dead cap charge on the Cowboys?

They could lose DAC and it costs them 40 million on a dead cap. So like when we keep saying DAC has the hammer, he's got the hammer. It's a big hammer. He's got Thor's hammer.

And then some. Which is why he might've also then said, you know, as I pointed out, it sounded like he's negotiating through Clarence Hill to say, you know, I understand the cap ramifications and, you know, you, you and the media do, but do the fans, do the fans know? Cause he kept saying DAC would have to maybe do his job with less. CD just got paid top dollar. That's ridiculous. DAC wants the top dollar. Micah Parsons is going to get top dollar.

Do the fans know? Which is my way of interpreting. Hey, DAC, let's let's, let's not, let's not go in with both hands. You know, you got the whole fist in there, doc, you know, like that moment from Fletch.

Right. Well, Oh, Dr. Jones. When you're on the top, when you're on top of the game, when you're paying attention, you're the best in the business. Jerry was asked the, uh, the, I guess $60 million a year question is like, what more do you need to see out of DAC to give him a contract?

What more do you need to see for DAC Prescott to give him a new contract? Well, I've, uh, you could easily say, uh, if you hadn't seen it by now, you haven't seen it. And so I'm, I'm such a fan of DACs and appreciate all of the great things that, uh, uh, we all know that he's there. And I appreciate his work ethic probably more than anything out here.

And I can't tell you how proud I am that we've got him this year to start this campaign. Uh, so, um, uh, needing to see, I just gave an explanation of where, when you look at a situation, you've also got a way, okay, what are the consequences of the other side of the coin? And so, uh, DAC's situation, uh, right now for me, from my mirror has more to do with our situation than it does with the merits of DAC Prescott being quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. Now, a lot of people might say, what is Jerry talking about? What does he mean by that?

Yeah. Well, when you look at through the prism of he's talking about the pie and less pie and the situation about us, meaning the team, is the cap. Name me another team, Jerry would probably tell you, who pays their quarterback top dollar and still has enough money to pay the receiver top dollar and has a defender who's the best in the game that's going to get top dollar. Name me another one.

Like I said, I gave you one. You said the chiefs yesterday, but Kelsey isn't in the realm of seedy lambs APY and DAC is asking for more APY than Mahomes. Mahomes gets the most cash, which is obviously the most important thing. And that's why a lot of people are pushing back. Jerry's got the most cash figure out the same way. Give them the most cash. That's what I'm saying. Well, I know that's what you're saying. Seems easy. But what is the holdup?

What is going on? When might it be done? That's what we're about to ask Clarence Hill before we bring him in though. This is a fun exchange from the press conference yesterday too. Clarence Hill, All-City Dallas. What's the name of your outfit? All-City Dallas. Thank you.

You're kicking it off with some good stories. Yes, Clarence Hill and Jerry Jones have been going back and forth for quite some time. And the veteran Cowboys insider Clarence Hill Jr. here on the Rich Eisen Show.

How did you introduce yourself to him yesterday? What was that? I'm with All-City Dallas. It's a new digital site that has come to Dallas. It's already been in Philadelphia, Chicago, Phoenix and Denver for a few years. And we're debuting in Dallas this year.

We debuted this week in Dallas this year. I'm doing podcasts and writing as their Cowboys insider for All-City Sports Network, All-City Dallas. Okay, so Jerry was just kind of busting your stones there a little bit?

Well, he's busting my stones because my first story for All-City Dallas was an interview with him when I don't know if you saw the viral story on Monday with the f-bombs. Oh, yes, sir. I did. I did. And then I saw the quotes that you garnered. We started our show with it on Tuesday, Wednesday, as a matter of fact, Clarence.

So thank you for that. Where it sure seemed to me that Jerry was negotiating with Dak through you, Clarence. I'll be straight up. You know, what did you think when he was talking about, you know, that we don't need to do a contract before the season? He'll still be here, but he'll have to do more with less.

What did you make of that? You know, Jerry was all over the place and trying to justify the decisions they've made and how they've handled their contract situations. And while he's trying to negotiate with me, Dak has all the leverage. I mean, Dak has a no trade clause. Dak has a no tag clause. Dak is in the catbird seat because he's a cowboy signing to a deal that's amenable to him and his agent, or he walks into a free agency, at least according to all people who know those things, his market is 60 million or more. You know, and the current highest paid quarterbacks make 55 million. But certainly, Jerry is, you know, I think he wants to sign Dak. I know he wants to keep Dak with the Cowboys. It doesn't make no sense if you sign C.D. Lamb to a contract like that and not make sure you have a contract, a quarterback, excuse me, so you can maximize that investment.

You made a huge investment in C.D. Lamb for the future. And, you know, right now you look at what's in the draft, look at what's out there. There's no guarantee you're going to have a quarterback as good as Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott is clearly a top 10 quarterback. I mean, I agree with you.

I would say that goes without saying, but I think there's a lot of people who would say differently. And, you know, on top of everything, uh, all the capologists who talk about this and know about it, that if Dak walks in free agency, that's a 40 million dead cap charge on the Cowboys on top of it. So if you're, or if he's gonna be 40 million dead of him leaving, you know, 20 million more to keep him, um, should, should be sort of the proverbial no brainer. Is 60 the number that Dak's asking for per year?

I don't know what he's asking for. I just know that the baseline is 55 for sure. And we all know that 60 is what he could get on the market.

And, and, you know, it's somewhere in between now. I'm sure Dak is not asking, at least from my understanding to be the, you know, to go 60 plus, but he's certainly not taking a lesser deal. He owes it to his family. He said he owes it to the rest of the quarterbacks league, uh, to, to get a market value deal.

Now what that is, you know, is up for Dak and the Cowboys and league to determine, but, you know, again, the baseline is clearly 55 million where, you know, all the top quarterbacks, either this that's the highest paid quarterback right now is 55 million. And, and, you know, people point out, well, he hasn't won anything. Who has won anything besides Patrick Holmes?

Who's won besides Patrick Holmes? You know, and, but that's what you get. The Jacksonville quarterback is getting $55 million. Yeah.

Two is getting 55 around that and a borough and, and golf. But again, some of those are, are, are definitely less than the, the top of the line. Jordan Love, the guy who ushered in the all in Dallas era because of the way that he dismantled the Cowboys and won in Dunning them. He's top of the market.

So I don't, I don't know if Jerry's saying you're not top of the market. I'd be curious to know why this is not getting done, because as you pointed out, Clarence, if we go into the season, the NFL goes into the season and Dak hasn't signed, he can walk and leave them with a $40 million dead cap charge. He can't be traded. He can't be franchise tagged. He does hold all the leverage, which is why when, when Jerry Jones told you for all city Dallas, that that, that do the fans know that there could be less for Dak to work with in the future. That struck me as him saying, Hey, Cowboys fans, don't blame me. If we're, you know, a touchdown shy, I had to pay CD and I had to pay Dak.

I'm gonna have to pay Micah had these guys not gone all in with both hands, you know, maybe we could add another receiver or run it back. That's the way I took it. Oh, that's his line of thinking. There's no question about that.

Just line of thinking. He's, he's talked about having to pay these three guys. And I don't know, he's made many commentaries over the years about the pie and the pie is only so big. If these guys get this much of the pie, only this much of pie for the rest of the team. And, and so he's openly talked about Dak having to play with less. And we all know that the Cowboys know they've had good teams, but they've also haven't gone all in. I mean, when we think of all in, we think of what the Rams did a couple of years ago. You know, when the Cowboys talk about all in, it's been, I'm going to pay our guys and then shop at the basement bid, bargain basement bid. And that's what he's saying is, okay, if I paid Dak, I'm paying CD, I'm paying Micah, the rest of the guys, you know, you have to play with young guys or journeyman free agents and try to get it done that way. And we're talking about a franchise that's worth $10 billion. The richest franchise in sport would drive me crazy.

And I understand there's a salary cap, but fans don't want to hear the richest franchise in sports always talking about balancing the budget. So yeah, we we've heard the, the less pie stuff as a matter of fact, that's been a radio drop for us for years. I mean, we've got that, you know, there's, there's another one too, right? I mean, like we've, we've got, we've got all the greatest hits for, for Jerry Jones and all of it. So, so that's the proof of how we've been down this road before.

Why, what's your opinion on why the Jones family operates this way, Clarence? They always try to win deals. I mean, it's like the CD deal. We knew what the market was. We knew what the contract should have been for CD when Justin Jefferson signed. Why did it take all the way through our trading account to two weeks or less than two before the start of the season to get to this number when we knew what the number should have been from the beginning?

Because he's trying to win deals. And the same thing with Dak going back. I mean, Dak has been on the franchise tag twice. They signed in right before the start of free agency when he was going to be a free agent in 2020, I mean, 2021, in March of 2021.

And we're back here. He deadlines make deals, according to the Cowboys, you know, Steven Jones have always said, deadlines make deals. They, they wait till the end to probably put out their best offer. Cause they're trying to convince the guy to take less money, less pie, you know, so to speak, you know, and take a team friendly deal. And they always run out the ground ball when it comes to that, he's going to run out the ground ball.

So what do you think happens spitball? I think they signed, I think they signed that. I mean, I just don't, you know, there's no other answer. The Cowboys don't want to go into the quarterback abyss that they were in from Troy Aikman to Tony Romo, the Quincy Carter years. You don't want to do that all over again. And again, there's no, if you see what's happening in the, you know, look at the Zach Wilson quarterback class, look at the Trey Lance quarterback class, you know, the Cowboys have Trey Lance, you know, trying to make him into a backup quarterback.

There's no guarantee. You're going to get a good quarterback out there. Jerry's, you know, he looked into Tony Romo as a free agent. He looked into Dak Prescott. You keep in mind, they tried to draft four or five other quarterbacks before Dak Prescott, including Patrick Lynch in the first round, who's been a bus, who Denver guy was a bus. They drafted another guy, defensive, Oklahoma before deck in the fourth round, that was their second fourth round pick.

They fell into that to a certain extent. And so them going out and choosing quarterbacks, they don't have a good track record since Drakeman and choosing quarterbacks in the draft. Well, you know, and he's not a guy who wants to tank 2025, have that stadium empty, especially after you pay a CD and you're paying Michael Parsons, you're not going to have anybody in the sand. So at the end of the day, they're going to get that done. It's just a matter of when, well, and in terms of that, just let's just gain this out.

In a few minutes, I have left with Clarence Hill. It's covered the Cowboys since 1997 with here on the Rich Eisen show. So Jerry might be sitting because he says that, you know, he sees a future with Dak is definitely there. And if he doesn't sign them, then that's no longer in his wherewithal to guarantee.

Okay. So is it possible he's looking over the steering wheel and you can't tell which teams might suffer an injury at the quarterback position, making them more quarterback needy in the spring of 2025, but you can sort of suss out the market right now. Who's got the cap space. Who's got the desire to pay a $60 million dollar quarterback per year to come play for them. That's a very high rent district that maybe Jerry's looking over the steering wheel and he's like, he doesn't see, obviously there's a market for Dak's talent, but maybe not at his price tag and that talent.

Clarence? Well, Jerry says, no one knows the NFL economics better than me. Nobody knows how to GM better than me, effing me.

Nobody can do the effing job better than me. He said that over and over and over again at camp. And he certainly said that to me, but think about the Las Vegas Raiders and their quarterback situation. Think about the Las Vegas Raiders. And that's an ideal situation. Think about possibly the Pittsburgh Steelers and their quarterback situation, which is, we don't know what they have at this point right now. And so there will be options.

There will be teams on the open market who will bid for Dak and get him to where he needs to go. Okay. So then let's talk about this season before I let you go.

All city Dallas is Clarence Hill here on the Rich Eisen show. What does this roster look like to you? The 53 man heading into Cleveland in a couple of weekends from now and the strange Achilles heel.

I give you the floor. I mean, I mean, seriously, this is a team that has gone 12 and five, 12 and five, and 12 and five each the last three years. No one has won more games than Mike McCarthy, but Andy Reid, of course, Andy Reid has two Super Bowls during that time. And Mike McCarthy has one playoff win, but this is the team, was still the best quarterback at NFC East, the best receiver at NFC East, two of the best guards in the NFC East, you know, the best pass drugs at NFC East, theoretically the best cornerback tandem at NFC East. When you look at Darren Bland and Trevon Diggs, the Achilles heel has been their run defense and they brought in Mike Zimmer to try to improve that run defense.

And, you know, can they do that? You know, they, they have real linebackers playing linebacker again on this team. But as you all know, you know, the Cowboy fans, it's not about the regular season anymore. You know, there's an assumption that the Cowboys will make the playoffs, but what will they do in the playoffs?

It's been pot luck for the Cowboys in the playoffs, you know, until they show something in the playoffs, there's always going to be questions about this team, this quarterback, this coach, and Jerry Jones since the end of the Jimmy Johnson era. So what do you think? This is a playoff team?

You've been around. So what do you think? I think it's a playoff team for sure. I think it's a playoff team for sure. Coming out of NFC East, as they've been, it's been a playoff team. I think they're a playoff team. You know, Dak Prescott is a very good quarterback.

With C.D. Lamb, his offense has been one of the highest scoring offenses in the league for the last three years. And certainly you add, you know, things that Zimmer is doing with that defense. I think for sure they're going to make the playoffs, but will they play their best football in the playoffs? That's the question. What's the run game going to look like just to drill in there? It's kind of like what, a little Jurassic Park and Rico and Deuce, right?

Is that what it is? Zeke, Rico, and Deuce. You know, they just signed Dalvin Cook to the practice squad. So you got 29-year-old Zeke and 29-year-old Dalvin Cook and Rico Dowdell and many, many might Deuce Vaughn.

We'll see how that works out. You know, when you get into the weeds of this, most of your running backs, your backup running backs have to play special teams. Deuce doesn't play special teams. Zeke doesn't play special teams.

Dalvin Cook never plays special teams. How does all this work? How do you get those guys? So they're, those are the decisions they have to make. And, you know, I don't know that Zeke and Dalvin can be on the roster at the same time, getting the roster at the same time, because they do the same thing and neither one of them plays special teams.

And Rico Dowdell will do some kick returns and he may be the most explosive back, all-around back they have right now. Let me ask you this before I let you go, because you're very honest. Clarence Hill, when you took the gig in 1997, you thought you could be covering NFC Championship games all the time, didn't you?

Didn't you? Four playoff wins. Four playoff wins since I took over, but it's not my fault.

Okay. My daughter's a gymnastics state champion. My other daughter was a WSP image award winner. When I raised champions, it's not my fault.

The Hill family is holding its weight in the Metroplex is what you're saying. I got the requirements of Troy, Emmett, and Michael. You know, yes, we thought the, I thought the dynasty would continue and I get to cover Super Bowls. None. You seem like you're out of F's to give, Clarence. I'm not going to care.

That's what it sounds like. You're just going to spit the truth. You're going to let the chips fall and let's go play some football coverage.

You got to keep it real. Thank you, man. Clarence, you take care of yourself.

Thanks again for the time. All right. Thank you. That's Clarence Hill.

Check him out on All-City Dallas right here on the Rich Eisen Show. That was a delight. Very funny. Straight up, man. Straightforward stuff from Clarence Hill. Perfect. And by the way, the one point as to why Dak's going to get his, and should, he's not wrong. You just gave C.D.

Lamb all that money. And then you're going to start from square one? Is that all you're going to do? You're going to go on the draft? You're going to go free agency? Is that what you're going to do? You're going to hope Trey Lance can work out? You're going to Cooper Rush it?

Is that what you're going to do? Yet another hammer. So C.D. Lamb being signed has made the Thor hammer even bigger. C.D., here's your money and your new quarterback is Nathan Peterman. Right?

Honestly. Oh, no, he's on the Chiefs now. Getting ready for his Hall of Fame run. He gets in there. He's about to get a ring. It's marvelous.

It is. Hasbro's still moving in, people. He's just watching on the Roku channel, sports channel right now. I like Clarence Hill though, Rich. I like to hear I like to hear more from him as the season goes on. Yeah, we will. I enjoyed our chat for sure. And one thing that we know absolutely for sure, Cowboys will be relevant.

Oh, yes, they will be relevant. That's why you put me here, baby. Let us take a break.

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These are questions that are burning for the NFL season, but people aren't asking them. I will. That's still to come.

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These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease or condition. Do I call you a free agent quarterback sitting here? What do I call you? I don't know.

This is my first time going through this. You tell me. Call me whatever I guess. I will call you Jack Prescott. That works.

I'm going to ask you the question this way about what contract you think you're going to get. Okay. In terms of pie, because I've heard there's less pie. I've heard there's less pie. That's right. There's the there's there's Jerry Jones right there.

The voice of Jerry Jones. We've heard there's less pie. We've heard there's more pie. I'm wondering if you think this is deep dish pie.

How deep is it? Is it a deep dish pie? If I'm guessing, I'd say, yeah.

Okay. Yeah. Is it franchise pie? I would say you'd say, well, I mean, I don't know what kind of pie we're talking about.

Is it franchise tag? I don't know. I mean, long term pie. Is it long term pie? I don't know.

I just want a piece of the pie. Just put it like that. Okay. That's it. Yeah. Okay. And is it is it a pie that that starts with a four?

Is it a pie that starts with a four? I could just said I'm leaving up to my agents to cut my piece of the pie. I'm just ready for it and ready to eat.

So when that happens, I'm ready to get to work and excited for this off season. And now we've also heard through DeMarcus Ware told us that when you sit in Jerry's office, have you gotten the Jerry's office meeting yet? I've been in Jerry's office.

Okay. And that he lights a candle, turns the lights down and gives you a whole Dallas Cowboys speech. Have you had that? You have not had that yet.

I haven't had that one yet. He says that that happens when he's trying to close a deal. So I think you'll know that you're really close. If you walk into lights, go down. Thank you for that. That warning and that heads up.

So now I know like what's going on when that happens. Apparently a votive candle with a Dallas Cowboys star right on the side of it. I don't know if it's scented. It's make me to smell it.

It make me the smell of pie of some sort. I'm just saying that hasn't happened yet is what you're saying. It hasn't happened.

Okay. When you get that call, you know, wow, I'm close back here on the rich eyes and show eight four four two oh four. Rich is the number to dial. Just an example of a NBA contracts to NFL contracts. We're talking about DAC making 60 million a year. And Steph Curry just signed a one year extension where the Golden State for 62.6 million dollars. I thought I heard you say Curry earlier. I was like what Steph Curry did it.

Wow. So he's under contract through the 26 27 season one year 62.6 million. And it's probably a bargain dollars difference between NBA contract.

Obviously NBA teams have what would you say? I'm bad at math. So am I doing this on the fly? A fifth of the roster. About spaces 12 13. Yeah. Right. Yeah. What the NFL must have a little over four. You know, but the revenue that's being brought in different story.

There's different business aspects of it. We didn't discuss this man because, you know, I was out that week. But Curry's performance in the gold medal game against France.

Rich, dude, it was I so much fun. I mean, we talk about this all the time here, right? The the moments in sports that are the best are when you want to see it. You expect it. And then it happens indeed. And this shot right here in particular over Wembunyama.

I don't know how this went in, but it did. And just him night nighting the French national team in Paris in front of all of their countrymen and women. Just unreal. Just absolutely when he goes into the the Hall of Fame. You know, to me, this may be number one above above the championships.

And that's saying a lot. This was on the world stage, the world stage, you know, to quote Noah Lyles, the real world stage. He wanted a world champion.

He got a world champion right there. I think, Rich, you know, we talked about this. And like you said, you weren't here that moment where he hit a three and he went down court and he looked into the crowd. I think they said he was talking to Draymond and he pointed. He was like, Don't worry about me.

Don't worry about me. To me, like, yeah, we watched that moment at least 15 times on YouTube. That was one of the coldest moments in the history of sports for him just to be like, because I think he had missed like two shots prior to that, if I'm not mistaken. And he was just like, don't worry. And then the last shot he made the last shot he made and he put him got me off the couch screaming. It was so much fun, literally off the couch, screaming, standing up, screaming and clapping and unreal. The whole team, though, they really they came together.

They all did a good job. That's the patriotic, nationalistic way of talking about it. The completely Boston tribalistic way about it is he bailed out the coach once again once again from the scorn of not playing Jason Tatum enough.

Am I correct? Or losing the gold medal. There's that, too. By not playing Jason Tatum.

Although he didn't play much in the first quarter in the gold medal game. Great job. Great job, Ter. Terzo in Iowa, you're here on the Rich Asher. That's line three, DJ Mikey. What's up, Terzo? All rise. What's up?

Oh, what's up, guys? Yeah, I was I was at Carl's watching that gold medal match. Of course you were at Terzo's?

Why not? The whole entire bar, which is absolutely berserk. I love that. Terzo, we know you were at Carl's. Do you own Carl's? Are you a part owner of that establishment? Well, I might I might I might have a majority stake. Who knows? Oh, look at us finding out here.

No, no, no, no, no. Do they claim you as a dependent on their taxes, on their business plan, Terzo? You put Carl's on the map, Terzo, so they owe you something, you know. Guys, everybody be nice to Terzo because he's probably in a little bit of a full-blown panic.

I'm 100 percent in a full-blown panic mood. And also, Rich, like, we have construction going on outside of our building. They keep knocking out my Internet and I keep going out there yelling at them. So I feel your strife with what you got going on outside. And it's OK.

But we're all part of a community here on the campus in El Segundo. And if Hasbro's moving in, just leave us an extra Twister game. That's all we want. That's it. But yeah, listen, listen, Trent Williams will get done. I don't know what's up with Iyuk right now. I don't I don't know what is up with them. And they're they're losing patience. And I don't know what's happening with him at present.

Yeah. And I'm extremely nervous for Trent Williams. And the quote that I heard that he's, you know, he wants to be paid, paid just and I believe they'll get it done. But that just scares me because we're such a different team without that man in the lineup. And he's like he's a game changer and a game wrecker. And we need to get him in the building. And I don't want, you know, to wait till we have you guys come in week one and we're having to try and scramble to deal with your the pressure that you guys are going to be bringing. Oh, well, listen, it's not just it's not just week one, Terzo, it's it's a stout division. And I appreciate the call. We're up against the end of the hour.

Thank you for calling. We will be predicting the NFC West later on. It's a stout division. It's a stout conference. And this just also shows again just how remarkable the gig that Brett Veitch is doing in Kansas City.

There's none of this, none of this. The team that lost the Super Bowl is the one that's wondering if their left tackle and their very talented wide receiver is going to show up. And they this is a team that is paying everybody or has been able to pay everybody so far because their quarterback in these Super Bowl runs of the last couple of years is the last pick in the draft. That changes next year, which is why Brockman in the latest overreaction Monday proffered to say that this is the last year of the Niners Super Bowl winning window.

I push back on that as an overreaction. But check out the answer on where you get all your podcasts. Listen, we're going to Kansas City next week. We know Kelsey's there. We know Mahomes is there. We know that they've drafted well. Creed Humphries on tomorrow's program. He's been paid.

None of this stuff. But they did actually. I should push back on myself here, which is odd. Le'Jarius Snead is a Tennessee Titan. They made that decision. And Tyree Kill is a Miami Dolphin. They've made these decisions and they've supplemented elsewhere.

And without Hill, they've won back-to-back championships. With Snead. So that'll be an interesting aspect this year. But in terms of Iyuk, I don't know what's going on. The way it was described to me was most of the money was handled.

It was back into the contract that needs to be ironed out to Iyuk's desires. And I don't know what's up anymore. Other than the fact that John Lynch said yesterday, at some point, you got to play football.

Well, not really. But one thing he's not doing is missing all 17 games. So I'm not eating anything of Mike Del Tufo's closet. None of it.

He's not missing all 17. Mike, stop. Pick a pair. Sure. I already got a bag.

I got a bag that's going to be donated already for risk. Stop watching this and all 17. Because at some point, at some point, they'll just look right at Iyuk and say, you're a stealer. Get out. That's the end of this. We'll go with Juwan Jennings and we're done with this thing.

Because I assume that's still on the table. But like I said, you know, to use Jerry Jones's phrase here, you know, there's less pie. And at some point, they're going to have to make some decisions because Purdie's going to have to get paid. And that may be informing what's happening here. But the Chiefs have been able to figure out this Rubik's Cube and put two in a row in the case.

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