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Suzy Shuster: So Sad About The Passing Of Jerry West

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June 12, 2024 3:39 pm

Suzy Shuster: So Sad About The Passing Of Jerry West

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June 12, 2024 3:39 pm

6/12/24 - Hour 2

Former Lakers reporter Suzy Shuster and Rich discuss the passing of Jerry West, the 3-time Basketball Hall of Fame inductee’s relationship with Kobe Bryant, and how his generosity of spirit has impacted countless people in the basketball world.

Cardinals RB James Conner and Rich discuss Arizona’s roster “cleanse,” a reinvigorated Kyler Murray, the expectations for heralded rookie WR Marvin Harrison Jr, playing his best football at an age when most running backs are on the decline, what it’s like playing for head coach Jonathan Gannon, and how the Cards will fare in the highly competitive NFC West.

Rich plays the “Win/Loss Game” with a very optimistic Detroit Lions fan.

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Jerry West made it from the other side of the mid-court strike. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. I'm thrilled for the players. People say, oh, he makes too much. I don't care how much money they make. I don't.

Players matter more to me. Earlier on the show, Ravens linebacker Roquan Smith. Coming up, Cardinals running back James Connor.

From Disney's Inside Out 2, actor and comedian, Lewis Black. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Hour number two of the Rich Eisen Show is now on the air. We're going to talk a little bit more football in this hour. As James Connor of the Arizona Cardinals will be joining us. There's much to do in the city of New York about the Jets minicamp missing their leader and quarterback.

And the reason why and what's up with the Jets and Aaron Rodgers. We went all in on that a little bit yesterday to start the program. So, we'll have the latest on all that in hour number three when Lewis Black strolls into our green room and studio. He's in Inside Out 2. He plays the voice of anger. And by the way, we do have his bobblehead doll around here. And it would show off.

He's perfect for that role. But the words he uses are not suitable for air. Am I right, Chris? It's not a bobblehead, actually. It's just one of those buttons you hit. Oh, that's right. And then it just has random phrases of rage that I hit literally every time I walk around the corner.

When you walk by it, it's almost mandatory that you hit it. Is that why I hear Lewis Black cursing every day? Yes. When I come in the back, I just go bleep yourself. Oh, my word.

844-204-RICH is the number to dial on the program to have a chat. And a bunch of folks have called in to give us their memories of Jerry West. But the person who I know that knows Jerry West the best that I've met and I know of is Suzy Schuster, the Emmy Award winner and co-host of What the Football with Amy Trask, and longtime reporter covering the Shaq Kobi era, Suzy, back here on the program. How are you, Suzy Schuster? What's up? I'm okay.

I'm just so sad. I have been talking to a lot of people that worked with me during the years in which I first met Jerry. And we're all just filled with such a huge sense of loss for a man that was so elegant. And that's the word I always used for Jerry West.

So kind and elegant. I met Jerry in 1999 when I was working for Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel doing a profile on Kobe Bryant, which I believe would air in 2000. And I reached out to interview him. He welcomed me to his home. I got to meet his wife, Karen, and his son, Ryan, at the time, who I'm still close with. And I began a long term friendship with a legend. And I remember I remember telling my brother, Scott, that I'd met Jerry West and he said, I can't believe this. Do you understand the hero systems?

Do you understand the ramifications, the meaning of this? And I really did. And, you know, you were right.

I heard you talking earlier, Rich. I mean, there were just so many years where I got such a kick out of the fact that Jerry West would take my call. And I got to have lunch with him and get to know him personally. But he was just so incredibly kind. And I think in a world right now in which kindness is at a scarcity, he was one of the people that welcomed me to Los Angeles and really treated me so beautifully my entire time covering the team and beyond that.

And the loss is just tremendous today. What other sides of him that you're willing to share with everybody here, Suze? I feel like he was so misunderstood. I think winning time contributed terribly to how people perceived him. I know how terribly hurt he was by this caricature of the man that they thought was Jerry West. I thought it was cruel and unusual for a man who's given so much to the NBA and put so much of his life in front of the camera and gave so much to the players and people that he worked with. I could tell you right now how much the Clippers appreciated him and and loved him and treasured him because he was a treasure. But he was a fiercely private man and incredibly proud. He was, as I said, elegant and fastidious about manners.

Was really upset with the way some of the younger kids treated reporters, media and especially women. He was nothing if not respectful. And, you know, he I would dare say that he was really devastated by the disintegration of his relationship with the Lakers.

And I think that there was no love lost there. But I think that he was very hurt by the way the team treated him over the last, I would say, decade, decade and a half. He he yeah, he it hurt him and he was incredibly sensitive.

And I think I heard one of your callers talking about how he slept with a loaded gun under his bed as a child because he feared his father so much, who was terribly abusive. He endured terrible psychological damage as a young child. And growing up, he lost his brother in the Korean War.

He he he he loved to share and he loved to chatter and he loved to have these wonderful deep conversations. But he was very guarded in a lot of ways. And also he had very for a man who lived so much of his life in the limelight, he did have thin skin.

But what's wrong with that? He showed his emotions. But there was a wounded nature to his soul. And I think you referred to that earlier. But I will never understand how the Lakers allowed this relationship to disintegrate the way that it did for a man that has given so much for a man that orchestrated Showtime, for a man that brought Shaq and Kobe together, for a man who gave so much of his of his self to the to the team and to basketball. I will never understand how it came to this. And you did you did sense that he he was deeply hurt by that is what you're saying. Yes, 100 percent and for for good reason.

Suzy Shuster here on the Rich Eisen Show. And then his relationship with Kobe. What did you witness?

What did you see? I mean, what I loved about it was that he refused to he he he he treasured and adored Kobe, but he also wouldn't back down to him. He really felt that he needed to be another father figure to Kobe and tell him when he did wrong, because there was a fair amount of time when Kobe surrounded himself with only those who would tell him that he was right. And Jerry never would be that person.

I think Shaquille O'Neal would be the person who would say that as well. He was incredibly close to Jerry and just and loved him. And again, Shaquille had a different background. He had a drill sergeant as a father and really respected and and appreciated boundaries. But I feel like Jerry wasn't afraid to say how he really felt to these players. You ran a soundbite earlier when he talked about how he cares most about players. It wasn't just how they performed on the court. And obviously that great soundbite about him talking about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and how he wanted him to work harder really reflects who Jerry was. This is a guy who himself took a rusty hoop and pinned it to the side of a bridge in West Virginia because he knew that if he missed a shot as a kid, that he would have to run down a river bank and find the ball in the river.

So he said that way you don't miss a lot of shots because you don't want to have to keep going down that river bank and getting wet. He he was all about hard work and he was all about showing up and he demanded that of his players. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. What do you think he and Kobe are talking about tonight? You know, it's so funny you said that when you called me this morning, my first thought was that my first my first thought was that. You know, it's funny, it's it's not like it's not like either one of them was a daily part of my life, but just last week I hadn't heard from Jerry in a bit and I sent him a text because, you know, I just I just I just loved I loved having him in my life and I really treasured it. And I saw, you know, some a bit of time ago over at, you know, over at the tennis club where he'd meet up with some of his favorite old timers and he'd always say, come on over and sit. And he'd always bring me into the conversation. And what would I just feel like what I think that Kobe is going to greet him with the biggest hug. I think he appreciated him.

There were two men who cared so much about their image and so much about who they were and demanded such excellence of themselves. I hope that they'll just get together and give a hug and say that we did really well down there. Yeah, he wasn't well of late. I know that. I know, you know, again, you share whatever you want to share, Suze, but I mean, he was such a private guy, Rich, that I was talking to, which is why also I'm assuming you don't want to explain what happened with him in the Lakers. That's that's for him and his family to release.

Not not not you. You know, there's a difference. Something that I actually do talk about with Shaq a lot, the difference between being a reporter and being a friend. You know, I'm not I'm not looking to break stories. And I really am grateful that he shared a lot with me. I think it will come out.

I know it'll come out. I'm sure maybe he had an agreement with the people to be able to tell it after the fact. But that wasn't our relationship. But I just know as his friend, just how wounded he was and how hurt he was because he was such a loyal person. And again, we don't there's loyalty seems to be waiting these days.

And he was incredibly loyal. So I feel comfortable saying that I think we will hear a lot of stories coming out about this strange relationship between the Lakers and Jerry. It's just not my story to tell.

So lastly, I mean, it's by the way, it's it's difficult to interview somebody who knows your interviewing style and gives you notes on it. So last one for you, Suze, is, you know, I asked this question of so many. So what what's your favorite story? You know, our kids ask you one day, you know, and when they're, you know, when their faces in the screen that we're telling them not to be. And so what one of our kids asks you, hey, who's Jerry West?

You got a good story. What would that one be? You know, the funniest thing about that is. There were so many days where I sat next to him and he would just. He would just pour out of him stories about working with the Lakers, stories about his playing these. He he loved a good chew and chat. And there were so many times that I sit there and say, I can't believe I'm listening to this. And like how lucky it was. And I'd usually then go call my brother and tell him everything or I'd call you and just say, I can't believe this.

And but so I wish I could give a more specific answer, because I know sitting in your chair how annoying it is when. No, but I mean, but he would dish right. He would dish right. He would dish too, right? I think was telling you like that was that was the true guy. He loved to chat and chew and he loved to like unpack things.

And as a basketball fan, you'd sit there thinking, I am sitting next to the legend, but man, he's mad. And boy, does he want that. Oh, yeah.

And by the way, I gifted him the Tupperware. I knew that. I knew he was Jerry West. I mean, and Susie, you're so right.

You're so right. After he his segment would be over, it'd be the top of the hour. He'd be just standing around talking with us and the music would start playing and we're like, sorry, Mr. West. We have to sit back down and and get on with the show.

Not not that we're kicking you out, but also increase increase. Like you guys know how hard it is to get, you know, great guests in studio, you know, like T.J. He would he is a gal feels so great as a woman.

Make you some soup. He's like, yeah, why don't you do that? And again, look, I judge people by their relationship with their kids. I think Ryan West is just a stellar individual with the same integrity that his dad had. And I kind of get a kick out of having seen him grow up, especially in the business. You can tell a lot about people by their family. Right.

Correct. And and he was just that just stand up guy. And my my prevailing memory over almost anything else was coming to his house when I was at real sports and I was about 25 or so. And just he opened the door. He ushered us in. He was so kind. And when I told him I was trying to get a job in Los Angeles, he said, let me know if I can help you in any way. And then when he came the first day that I mess up, he said, you made it. You did it. I forgot it until this moment, like at my first like second first or second Lakers practice. And he remembered and he remembered my name and I was nobody.

I was just my just starting Fox Sportsnet. And he's like, you did it. You got the job. You didn't even call me. And that was something that just I think maybe that little tiny snippet shares who he was. He cared enough to remember your name. He cared enough to be kind. He was he was unceasingly elegant. He was always the Natalie dressed man who walked in the door.

He was the kind of man that would hold a door for any woman that would come. And he but again, he felt so deeply and and. I bring it up one more time, but just I think that we will learn more and more about the depth to which this relationship disintegrated.

And I think that it's such a shame. It's such a shame to not worship and appreciate every single second of the relationship any team could possibly have with him. I know for a fact that Clippers do.

And I know for a fact, as you said, the Clippers were the ones to release the news today. And he loved working with Steve Ballmer. He loved having somebody who would listen to every piece of advice he ever had. He felt heard and appreciated. And I'm really appreciative of the Clippers for how they treated him. I wish everybody could have had the opportunity to sit down and have a lunch with Jerry West like I got to do so many times. Well, you're the only one I end this interview with by saying I love you.

I'll see you later. You do tell Marshall that a lot. Oh, that's true.

A nerve. Well, Suze, Suze, I text you this morning to say thank you for bringing him in here because I'm a huge NBA fan, as is Chris. I've had hundreds of different of T-shirts, hats, jerseys with that logo.

That logo means so much to an NBA fan. And you kind of gave me that chance. I didn't have lunch, but I did get to sit back there and chop it up with him for like 15 minutes.

And that's something I'm always going to like. You had soup with him. You had soup with him. Probably the only people who have soup with him are you and Boban. I don't know if you didn't share the soup, but yes. It's so funny. I'm looking at the clock and I'm like thinking 10 18.

Don't worry about it. But I will say that half the time when I book the shows, I would always reach out to Jerry because I know you loved having him in. But can you think of one time we had him where he didn't tell some beautiful story that you were like, I keep I'm sitting here listening to this.

And we were in how we expounded on the three point shots, how we expounded on the relationship of Shaq and Kobe, how we expounded on Kareem and the difference between teams in the 80s versus the teams now, the young players, what have you. There wasn't a time that he came on that he didn't tell some story that was spectacular that you hadn't heard before. And like you said, Chris, he really he does not he never liked doing phoners and he never liked doing zooms. He liked doing in person because he felt like he would never be misconstrued if he was actually sitting there. But he also loved the bonding element of being interviewed by people that he trusted. And he stopped doing interviews.

He never didn't do a whole lot of interviews the last five years or so. And he basically said, because he said, I'm at the phase in my life where I just want to make sure that what's going to go on in the years is who I really am. And so I feel very grateful that he took the time, T.J., to come and spend those interviews with us. And like you said, to hang out and to. Come early, come early, you'd come just to hang out. Yeah, then he'd stay for the whole hour.

It was really tremendous. It was like he trusted you for sure. And it was like, Mr. West, can you stay? He's like, I don't have anywhere to be.

And I'd say, don't you have golf for like in about an hour and up the road? But yeah, he was he was he was so generous of his time. And again, it's not I'd love to pretend it was anything that had to do with me. I do feel that he he really loved. He loved people who would listen. He you know, that was one thing I always say is that people come in with their list of questions and they don't listen to what I really have to say. And that's why I think he loved this format so much, because he could have a conversation and not feel like he was being interviewed. And and and again. He was a person with a lot of trust issues. And you're absolutely right.

And for that reason, I think that's why he started to wrap up with whom he would converse as he got older. I'm just so grateful that he let me be a part of his life. Suze, thanks for the time.

This is awesome, as expected. I'll chat with you later. See you at home later. Suzy Schuster, everybody talking about her friend.

And frequent guest, Jerry West. All right. Let's take a break.

844-204 Rich, number to dial. You know what? Before we take a break, just real quick. I was thinking this, too, as well. You saw in the chat with Suze there that she got emotional when I mentioned Kobe. And him together. And it's interesting, too, because Dan Patrick today played a soundbite. Dan, Dan got very emotional on the air today.

I mean, he shared, he poured his heart out. He had decades as well of idolizing him and meeting Jerry. And he played a soundbite of Jerry calling in on the Monday of the Super Bowl in Miami the day after Kobe died. And he played a soundbite of Jerry West talking about Kobe and his history with Kobe.

And that got, Dan, Dan couldn't speak. I mean, Paulie had to jump in because Dan was choked up. And so the Kobe fact that he's going to be welcoming Jerry West, I think is getting people choked up. And I thought to myself when I was thinking about that today is, you know how we're missing Kobe right now in the conversation? It's not about Luca. It's not about Kyrie or it's not about Tatum or Brown getting their moment. It's what's going on with the WNBA.

Oh, yeah. And how he was about coaching his daughters. And he was at the forefront, man. Big proponent. He was at the forefront of taking these girls that he was coaching and molding them into absolute basketball assassins.

And did you see, I think, did ESPN do a piece on the girls who survived? Rich. Right, I know.

Rich. I know, man. Man. It's powerful. I think it won an Emmy about the girls who survived and what they have come and their winning championships. I'm getting goosebumps just even talking about it. That was a hard, hard watch, man.

That was a hard watch. And so having Kobe talking about whatever's going on with Kaitlyn Clark and the WNBA, I think he would have quite a unique perspective on it. I'm not going to guess what he would say. You could tell he'd love it, though. But he would be the one to maybe chime in here and talk about it in a way that I think few NBA stars or legends could or would feel comfortable chiming in on it and having instant respect on that subject matter. That's what I keep thinking.

Because also there's two ways to look at it, and as many people are looking at it for two different ways. But I kind of miss his voice on that subject matter. I don't know why that popped into my head, but it did. All right, we'll take a break here on The Rich Eisen Show. 844-204-rich, number to Tom. All right, we'll take a break here on The Rich Eisen Show. We'll take a break here on The Rich Eisen Show. All right, we'll take a break here on The Rich Eisen Show. All right, we'll take a break here on The Rich Eisen Show. All right, we'll take a break here on The Rich Eisen Show. All right, we'll take a break here on The Rich Eisen Show. All right, we'll take a break here on The Rich Eisen Show. All right, we'll take a break here on The Rich Eisen Show. All right, we'll take a break here on The Rich Eisen Show. All right, we'll take a break here on The Rich Eisen Show.

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