Sherrone Moore: Excited For What The Future Holds

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Why? A lot of times people think billion dollar companies make no mistakes. And 32 of them made a mistake in the last couple of weeks. Earlier on the show, Chargers head coach Jim Harbaugh. Coming up, Michigan head coach Sharone Moore. NFL Network insider Tom Pelissero. And now it's Rich Eisen. All right, hour number two of The Rich Eisen Show is on the air. We just talked to Jim Harbaugh.

Now we're going to turn the page. Sharone Moore, the head coach of Michigan football, is going to join us in about 20 minutes time from the road. He's on the road. He's recruiting. He's doing. You know what I'm saying?

That's why you become a head coach in the NFL. Well, some guy's recruiting and pounding the pavement in January. Well, now it's February. After a very long January, very long season, the other guy's sitting in an office smiling and zooming. You know what I'm saying?

Doing preps for an upcoming season. That's the difference. Jim's going to put his head on a pillow tonight in his own home or his own RV. The Harbaugh files, right? That's what he's going to do. And Sharone Moore is on the road. You know, life of a college football coach.

He's going to be joining us, as I mentioned, in about 18 minutes time. It's Groundhog Day. I mean, I got you, babe. I got one of the best movies ever. Playing a different tape boys.

Harold Ramis, I believe, wrote and directed that movie. Right. Genius. And at any rate, we mentioned this because apparently, Punxsutawney Phil did not see his shadow.

And Punxsutawney Mike didn't see his. OK. No, it's not about you, Mike. I know. We're talking about an animal. I am. Can somebody explain to me, explain to me like I'm five.

How do you know an animal is not seen its shadow? OK, I do a lot of research. I did a lot of research, a lot of research. You are. Excuse me. You don't have to say I've done a lot of research on this. When everything else you say with such authority. Like you don't have to say we just we just assume you know what you're talking about, Mike.

I'd like to know, by the way, by the way, I really don't want to be here for Magic Johnson. Seriously, no, go ahead. Go ahead. So they put they basically put the thing in there and they pull it out. What's the facts?

It's my God. The grab. OK. Seriously, you guys knew what I was talking about.

And serious. It's like there's not just one. There's multiple money fills. What do you mean? There's not just one hundred years.

No, I know this. The new fell. There's like it's like it's like Butler blue. There's not one bulldog. There's multiple.

Why are you pulling on the fill out and say, do you see your shadow? It's not like Phil Square. Phil, I mean, it's multiple. It's like August. Yes, it's like exactly like August is like a guy.

Honestly, can you ask Sarah if if the plural of August is August or August 10? RIP passed away this week. Oh, really? Oh, no.

They don't live very long. Bulldogs. I know. Sure. So I'm sorry. So whatever. There's multiple.

Yes. So they put one in there to pull out. I thought they were having trouble finding one this year. I couldn't find one.

I have to find one that actually put in there. So it's not like the same one. I thought it was like it was kind of I thought there's just one fill.

No, there's multiple fills. All right. Wow. OK, so. So how do they know that the animal has seen its shadow or not?

Basically, if the sun's out. Yeah. Mike, I told you I can't laugh, man. My back hurts.

This is great. We're going to put this out there for everybody wondering how it works. Mike's going to tell you, OK, sorry, Mike. I sat at a wormhole and saw it too. Like I'm like, how does it explain to me? See? So if the sun's not out, you can't do it. So if the sun's not out, he doesn't then he doesn't see his shadow. So if it's why did you get so dramatic? My God. Because I think so if it's raining out or whatever, then you know, he's not going to see a shadow.

Then why go through the whole endeavor to people they enjoy? You guys saw the movie. It's like a big thing in Punxsutawney. So, you know, if it's if it's cloudy out. Yes, you're done. It's just we're going to say it's like even when it's cloudy out, there's enough of a sunlight to cast a shadow somewhere. And now it's got to be if that's a partly cloudy then I'm the weather guy.

Rich, come on. I know that. So if the sun is out, he will definitely see a shot. One hundred percent. And then it's like we're now put them back in. We got like more. And here I thought, first of all, talk about myths being blown myth busting right now. I thought there was one Phil like there's an UGA right in Georgia.

This is one fail. And Phil lives a great life. Three hundred sixty four days a year. He just lives like the rest of us want to be left alone. Right.

On our own time, our own devices. Don't bother me. Don't bother me at all.

Just I want to be left alone. And then one year and then one day a year, some some guy in a top hat dressed like the Monopoly guy just drags his ass out of his home and says, do you see your shadow or not? And then there's some sort of communication between animal and human that lets us know if the spring is six weeks longer or not. Communications. The thing is, it's meek. It's not like it's going to say speaks in Groundhog Ease.

I mean, they told us in the movie. It's true. Chris, is this the way it works? You don't know me. Me and Chris. So I got to know somebody.

I think that the people are going to be just lighting up the phone lines from eight, four, four, two or four, rich from Pennsylvania. I've seen the movie eight thousand times. And, you know, I only just go on what like because that's Bill Murray's brother who plays the mayor. Yeah, Brian Doyle Murray. By the way, he once told he once famously told some caddies to pick up the blood. Yeah, pick up that blood.

I have no idea how it works, but I mean, obviously the superstition is sees the shadow. Six weeks a winner. If I'm not mistaken, Brian Doyle Murray was also the on the business end of being told to keep it fair.

Yes, fair. He was getting his palm grease. So the boss and Christmas vacation. OK, Wayne's World. He's the boss. OK, so there you have it. The reason why I bring this up is apparently the last he did not see his shadow today.

Right. Which means he saw his shadow, which means. No, did he? I don't think so, Chris. No, he didn't.

So we at least get this back. Get this right. Yeah, he didn't see. So which means doesn't always bring that early spring. Apparently, the last four times. That he did not see his shadow, and thus it was an early spring. The AFC team won the Super Bowl.

Oh, oh, I love this stuff. This is like this is like the Washington football team election. It's over. I hate to tell you he was canceled Super Bowl. They they canceled Super Bowl 58. Let me do the jokes. My I'm sorry.

All right. Super Bowl 58 has been canceled. It's over. I also saw an instance that in the last 30 years, when one team travels east.

To. Play in the Super Bowl and the other team travels west to play in the Super Bowl. So, you know, there's sometimes two teams travel from the east, two teams travel from the west, depending on who makes it and where the game is played.

They're meeting in the middle. The last seven times, seven times in the last 30 years, when a team that travels east to west and somebody travels from West East, the team that travels from east to west have won the Super Bowl. So it's so it's rigged again for the Chiefs.

So the Chiefs. The three things. The three things. One. Punxsutawney Phil did not see his shadow to one team traveling west. One team goes one way. One team goes the other way. And the NFL says, what do you want from me? Right. The team that comes east to west wins.

And then you toss in the fact that the NFL wants. Right. To see Taylor Swift celebrating.

Well, we heard Taylor the one break down all the numerology and all the things going on. Thirteen. Yeah.

But you know what? I was sitting there thinking. But then he chose the Niners at the end of the day. I was thinking when LeBron was doing all that numerology about 13, you know what? I was sitting here thinking, yeah, Brock Purdy wears 13. So all of this could be why you're going to use a 13 for look, everything's applicable to Brock Purdy, all the 13 stuff as a 13 ever won the Super Bowl. Kurt Warner. Yes. Yeah, that's it. Well, Dan Marino was 13 in the Super Bowl.

I don't know if you'd look it up. I'm getting ready. There's more than 113, just like there's more than one groundhog.

I actually had his goal, actually. Oh, God, you're a champion from years ago about numerology. I didn't know. All right, let's get to it. It's a Friday. It's time for What's More Likely presented by Subway. Hit it. What's more likely?

Never say never, but never. All right, Chris, what's up? What do you guys Friday? What's up? Everybody good? I'm excited to do this. What are we doing tonight? Anything going out, Mike? Not going to wake up early.

All right. Who's more likely to get back to championship weekend next year? The Ravens or Lions? Oh, God. I'll go Ravens.

Oh, no, I'll go Ravens. Disrespecting the kneecaps. I'm not disrespecting anybody. You asked me how to choose.

You know, sometimes you make an opinion and people get upset with you and then they don't want to be friends with you anymore. Welcome to real life. I know that that's the way it happens. And so I'm sorry if I had to guess, I would take the one franchise that's been the NFC championship games more recently than the Lions have prior to this season.

So I'd go that way. I don't know how they're going to be able to replicate it. The Ravens, as we all know, made the playoffs in back to back years. The Lions go a long time between it. They maybe we we may be seeing a change in the garden, a changing of the way things go.

But if I had to choose, I would take the team with the quarterback that's going to be named MVP a week from yesterday. How does that sound? I will go with that. I like it. I hope people are still your friends after this.

I don't know. I'll I'll I'll I'll check my texts. All right. Well, a lot of hypotheticals in this one, because, you know, there's no games this weekend. All right. More like what happened first.

TJ, the Cowboys win their sixth Super Bowl or or the Lions win their first. Oh, immediately. Just by him going or he was dismissing your first party. Well, I need to know. I was eager to hear what the what the what the other option was. I don't know, Rich. I kind of know you a little.

Cowboys sixth or Lions number one. Well, do I have to be consistent here? No, absolutely not. Oh, then I'll go lines when they're first.

Wouldn't that be consistent? You know, I just said who's more likely to make it. I forgot.

I forgot what you said for the last one. No, I think it's more likely that the Lions win their first before the Cowboys win their sixth. Six, I think the Lions are closer than the Cowboys. Oh, I'm just saying we got five. No, they're not closer than the Cowboys. They proved this year they are currently closer than the Cowboys.

Well, head to head, we beat them, so. Oh, well, I mean, controversial. I caught the tuck rule was controversial.

I mean, I guess I guess, you know, I guess your receiver needed to have 228 yards to put it a little bit further out of reach. I mean, I don't know, man. I need to see what all it is. I need to see what all in it. No, I need to know what what does what is we're going all in. I say that at the Senior Bowl.

What are you doing? What does that mean? What does that mean by by new league year? If it means we're going out and getting Derek Henry and figuring out how to extend that to afford Derek Henry and afford everyone else. And then maybe throw DeAndre Hopkins in the mix and just keep on adding people who are hungry for championship trophies, just like the Cowboys. Then I'll go with Dallas. But in the meantime, I'll go with the team that's closer, the Lions.

What else you have, Chris? All right. A lot of debates are going to be starting the whole goat stuff, Brady and Mahomes or whatever. But we can all say Brady and Jordan are kind of the same.

I think these two are the same. So who retires with more championships? Patrick Mahomes or LeBron James?

Oh, that's easy. I'll go Mahomes. What are you looking at me like that for? Retire with more championship. How many does LeBron have?

What's what do you got for me right now? Four. All right. Yeah. So Patrick Mahomes is going to have a whole Troy Aikman career starting now to pass LeBron. LeBron has how many championships? Four. How many championships does Mahomes have right now? Two. Right. That's that's. Do I think he's getting much?

He could he could have three more by the time he's finished. Wow. What's wow.

Why are you so surprised by this? One guy's got a doubled up head heads to head. I know he's also turning 40 on a team that just, you know, what if he goes to the mix? Doesn't look so weak. OK, stop.

He'll be stuck on four. You know what? Hey, LeBron's going to be in Madison Square Garden.

All right. Saturday night. Is he playing? I could have I bet you he sat this one out to make sure he's playing in Madison Square Garden. Yeah, I think he sat out Boston to make sure that if it was an either or.

I mean, what if he has 60? That's just going to fuel the rumors. I like playing here. Maybe I should make this my home team. Dude, don't just don't try and cover the trail of you being so surprised here with me pushing back on your surprise with other stuff, like trying to throw it out there that he's going to be a Nick, which ain't happening.

I'm telling you, my home's may have three by next Sunday, which means two more between turning age 28 and his retirement. I'll take that, wouldn't you? Yeah, absolutely. OK, so why do you think he's so surprised? Well, I mean, this is part of the bit.

OK, what else? More likely to pass Don Shula on the all times win list. Bill Belichick or Andy Reid? How far is Andy Reid from the by the way? I'm now going to ask for information before giving knee jerk opinions after my defensive player of the year kerfuffle. Taking that way too personal. I'm just saying I needed to get all the information out there before making a decision.

And I swore to myself, I'm going to do that from now on. How many how many how far behind is Andy Reid from Don Shula, Chris? Let's see, because Belichick is going to have to sit there and watch Andy get.

What would you say? 11, 12 more wins next year at the very least, including playoffs. OK, so Don Shula has 347. Andy Reid has 283. This is including playoffs. Quick math. That is 64. Oh, geez.

Or a guy who is 18 away, 14, 14 away from time 14. Oh, man. So I've got to figure out Bill's got to get a job next year.

Yeah. And then coach for like two for two years, two years. Andy Reid still got a way to go. I'll go. Andy, we need what?

Five more 11 wins. I'll go with the guy. I'll go with the coach again.

That's a great question. I'll go. Andy Reid, then I'll go. Andy Reid. That's why I threw it out there.

OK. What else you got? Harbaugh to win their division next year. John or Jim?

What? Jay, Jay, I think it's with Jim. Jay Harbaugh. I'll go. I'll go, John.

I'll go, John. Dude, we just had him on disrespecting. I'm not disrespecting him. It's year one of his program. Let him build it up, Chris, before throwing expectations that might be too great to expect not to have him endeavor. Obviously, there are no challenges too great for him to endeavor because he's got an enthusiasm previously unknown to mankind.

But let's go with the guy who was the one seed this year and and doesn't have Patrick Mahomes in his division sitting there with six straight division titles. And I am done. I am done being baited into pissing off Chiefs Nation as well. Enough.

One of my favorite pastimes. What else? All right.

A couple more. How about injured quarterback to return to the playoffs next year? Aaron Rodgers or Joe Burrow?

Oh, I'll go Joe Burrow. And leave it at that. No, no confidence.

What do you want? It's not. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Let me ask you a question.

Yes, Chris, I am kidding you. Without Joe Burrow, were the Bengals still in the mix? Yeah. OK, it's because they had an offensive line that wasn't injury ravaged. And they also had T. Higgins and they also had Jamar Chase.

And if they didn't have an injury, if they had an injury riddled offensive line and Allen Lazard and Randall Cobb. Now, I know I'm just making it I'm using names to just make a point. But come on, man. Come on, man.

All right. One team was close without their quarterback, and the other one has 30 unnamed sources telling the athletic things suck around here. But what else? Last one team to have the better offense next season. Arthur Smith's old team or his new one?

Well, I got a. Um. It's Falcons and Steelers. Great question. And what are you basing this on? Just point scored like yards per game. No, I just don't.

I could look at off. It's just unknown what the Falcons are going to look like next year. I'll go with what I'll go the Steelers. Oh, yeah, I'll go the Steelers. Just because it's a known what what what they're going to do and what Arthur Smith can do, and I'm marrying it to what the Steelers have on the field. I just don't know.

They both have QB questions. No, I understand that. I understand that. But I will just choose that. And that's what's more likely presented by Subway. Every epic footlong deserves the perfect sidekick.

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I'm zoned that allows us to see deep inside Chris Brockman's soul and thought process. OK, Chris, if I could offer you the chance to have the new Syracuse football coach on the program for you to say hello to and chat with Graham Brown. Let's go. You would take it? No. There we go. Why not? Uh, why not? Didn't work out great the last time, but it was for your birthday.

Dino Babers. We had him calling for your birthday. This is fresh off of one of Syracuse's best football seasons in a long time. Finish your ranked that year.

It'd been a while. No, I have a lot of hype going into this football season. I think we're going to make the playoff.

Oh, wow. You'll be one of the 12. I think so. OK, which means you'd have to win the ACC for that to happen or one loss.

I don't know. We're going to see two lost teams in the playoffs. You guys know that, right? We'll see two lost teams in the playoffs from the ACC.

No, you'll see it. You'll see one from the SEC because it just means more there. And so it means so much to so many people. Aren't you aware of how much it means to SEC fans? I am aware. You are aware. I'm aware.

I think Syracuse goes 11 and one in the playoff. OK, OK. Quote Larry David. OK, OK, good to know. But no, I do not want to talk to Graham Brown. Thank you.

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Call clickgrainger.com or just stop by. He is the 21st head coach at the University of Michigan's football program, and he is a national champion coach right now joining us from the road back on the Rich Eisen Show. But for the first time as the head coach of Michigan football, Sharon Moore. Good to chat with you, coach. I'm blessed, man. Great to see you, Rich man. Such a pleasure and honor to be on the show. Oh, that means so much. And I'm honored to have you.

And I have I have so many questions. What's going on in your in your head right now as you're on the recruiting trail as the head coach of the University of Michigan football program defending national champions? I might add, I mean, like Coach said, just going to walk around with our chest held high.

Super excited about the goals that we accomplished and set out to do, but excited for what the future holds and just going to continue to grind and make sure that we we stay where we're at and continue to keep on that track. I guess I should have been more specific. A kid from Kansas who went to Oklahoma and then decided to become a coach grinding it out. What about that guy thinking about it? Humble. Yeah, humbled. I mean, I can't thank the man upstairs enough. I can't thank my family for the support that they've given me throughout my journey. But also, I mean, the number one thing I always talk about and we talked about is the players. The players have put us in this position of success. I mean, it's just it's a humbling experience and it to represent the University of Michigan.

I can't think of a better place to do it. So just super humbled and excited. When did you first want to be a coach?

When did that hit you? Yeah, when I was playing, I realized like right probably after my junior year going to my senior spring, I just was watching like Coach Stoops around me and the effect that they had on the players there, how much fun they were having. And I just thought, man, like I want to be able to affect people that way in a positive outlet, obviously help win games. But like the way that they affect the people and the way my high school coach, my junior college coach, what they did and how much fun I saw. They enjoyed life and they got to be around this beautiful game.

That's what I figured. Hey, I want to I want to do this. I want to be a coach. Is that when you first met my colleague, Gerald McCoy, who's been pounding the table for you? Yes. In college, man.

Gerald, he's a special, special dude, obviously a phenomenal player, but an outstanding human being. And that's one of my guys. I love you. Okay.

Yeah. He talks about you all the time. Sharon, he talks about you all the time.

Okay. And when did you first connect with Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh? When did that happen? I was at Central Michigan and Dan Enos was the head coach my first year there. And Dan left, became the OC at Arkansas.

I was still at Central Michigan for four years and I was driving back from actually seeing my family and driving into Mount Pleasant. And Dan Enos called me. He's the wide receiver coach at that time at Michigan. And he's only there for like a couple months. But he calls me, he says, hey, there's a tight end job open.

Would you be interested? I said, absolutely. And I interviewed, I flew back the day of the national championship convention in 2000 and I believe in 2018 and interviewed there that next day. Coach made me stay the night. I had no clothes because I drove up from Mount Pleasant for two hours away. I had a suit and he's just like, yeah, let's get some clothes from the equipment room.

Stay the night. It was phenomenal. It was awesome.

I remember my interview like it was yesterday. I took off my coat. I started run blocking on a chair. He pulled a GA. He made me do it on the GA. He wanted to get a piece of it. It was phenomenal. And it was a true, true coach R-ball interview.

And I loved every minute of it and thankful for everything he's done for me at this point and continue to bless him. Okay. So two questions off of that.

What do you mean run blocking on a chair? What do you, what do you know? We interviewed, we had an interview and I was interviewing for the tight end job. And, you know, I talked about my philosophy, how I coached the position. But the first thing I learned from one of my mentors, Dave Borgoly was, when you do an interview, like you need to show what you're going to do and teach it. So when I taught it, I literally took off my coat jacket and I started run blocking on how I would teach run block.

And then coach made me do it on GA. He wanted to be a part of it. It was awesome.

And just knowing Jim, like you must have had him in hello by grabbing a chair and let's start run blocking right here. I'm taking off my coat, you know, attacking with an enthusiasm, you know? Yeah, it was awesome. I just wanted to show how I would teach it and talk about how I teach it, but show it and it was a pretty cool experience and very unforgettable. And so when you, when you said stay the night, I mean, was that the, and, and, and they gave you gear from the equipment room. Was that the first time you put on Michigan clothes? It was, it was very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, uh, very special surreal. Um, I remember, you know, just getting that, getting the stuff and putting it on cause I didn't have nothing else.

I had a suit and that's all I had. So, you know, coach said, Hey, you should put some. Wow.

I mean, being able to sit in a hotel room and see that, you know, Michigan gear. Yeah. Okay. That was my last question.

Hotel room. I don't know if he put you in the Harbaugh guest room or anything like that. So, um, so, uh, you know, and, and what if somebody had told you, cause obviously when, when you're, when you're trying to, um, you know, climb a ladder as a coach and you're an assistant, it is all in, in, in one day, hoping to get a program of your own. What if somebody told you that, Hey, this is not just to get a program of your own.

This is to give you a path to become the Michigan head coach, to, to succeed Jim Harbaugh. What would you have said to that individual? Yeah.

I wouldn't believe them. Uh, I would have said that you're crazy, you're out of your mind, but very, very humbled and blessed that, that I am in this position and, uh, excited. Okay. So Sharon Moore head coach of Michigan football here on the Rich Eisen show.

Here's some other questions I have for you. Um, what was it like? Describe for me from your perspective, that flight to Penn state, you're on this plane. You have no idea if Jim Harbaugh is going to be the coach there or not.

You have no idea if you're going to be the coach of this game or not. What was that flight like that day? Uh, I mean, the flight there were, I mean, we kind of, you know, we heard rumblings.

We didn't really know. And I'm sitting right by coach and we're like on the plane, we got wifi and like twiddling through our phones, not really watching movies. And then like we land and when we land, that's when we all see it, like coach is not, you know, it's going to be suspended, whatever.

And, you know, we're sitting on the bus driving on the bus talking about, you know, different options. He's like, well, should I fight it? And this is the best part about coach. He's like, well, you know what? If I don't fight it, it'll be, you know, it will, you know, they'll stop talking about me and it'll be all about the players. He's like, because I don't want to fight it. And then them continue to talk about me. He said, it's about the players. He's like, I think we're going to win anyway. So I don't want to make this about me.

I should just, you know, I should just sit out and, you know, you handle it. And let it be about the players. And I was like, coach, we need you there.

We want you there. So initially he, you know, he put a fight, you know, he fought for, but, you know, whatever happened didn't happen. And the players just, you know, that's when the bet started.

We were at dinner and the guys were, Chris Jenkins, I think, tweeted it out. And then JJ did. And then the rest of them did. And it was just like, okay, you're going to take our coach from us.

You think that's going to stop us. And it was a very big boulder that was on their shoulder that they thought they wanted to prove themselves right. Not necessarily prove doubters wrong. And, you know, the results of the results. So how did you handle it?

Putting the headset on. Yeah. You know, yeah, for me, it was a, I was extremely confident in our team and the way that they practiced, the way they prepared at that moment.

Yeah. Obviously it was a surreal moment for me, because, you know, we're going back and forth whether coach would be able to coach and we're waiting at the, he was waiting at the hotel and then our AD award manual came on about 90 minutes before the game kicked off and said, hey, we got you. You know, you're going to coach the game. And you just heavily relied on the staff.

Everybody we have, we have an amazing staff. So that was very humbling. There was not any nerves, not any anxiety. It was just super excited to watch the boys play. Well, and I mean, and then the photograph we have up is obviously your emotional response upon winning the game. What, what, what do you think brought all this on when now that you look back on it, this reaction? Yeah, I think a number of things. I think, you know, when you go through crazy times like that and uncertainty, you know, there's a lot of emotions, a lot of human emotions.

And sometimes, you know, I wear my, I wear my heart on my sleeve and I'm not afraid of that. So it was a super emotional time, excited time, but, you know, to watch our players go through all this craziness and people try to doubt how good they were. And it was just, it was just cool to watch our players play at that high level and play angry, play fast, play physical, play for each other. And when you're part of a family and something happens good or bad to your family, there's emotions involved. And we have a true family.

So I think that's where that all came from. And I wanted to do it for Coach Harbaugh and, you know, and prove his legacy of who he is as one of the greatest coaches to coach at Michigan. And then two weeks later, oh my goodness gracious.

I mean, this, I mean, it's tough for me to try and maintain my professionalism. So I'm not going to, it was truly one of the most remarkable days to see you on the sideline for Michigan as the head coach against Ohio State and then beat the Buckeyes for a third straight time. And knowing that now you're undefeated still going to the Big Ten, the entire construct of doing it for coach and doing it for the team and doing it to prove everything that had been accused of the team that had been ripped out root and branch was not the cause of the success of you and the awards that your offensive line was accruing under your tutelage and leadership and everything. And I'm wondering what that meant for you to have beaten Ohio State as a head coach of the University of Michigan, albeit in, as you would say, interim only for the moment.

It meant everything. I mean, just winning that game, regardless of whether you're the head coach or the, you know, office coordinator or line coach, defense coordinator, it means everything. That's everything we've worked for all year.

That's the standard. We uphold ourselves in that program and we'll continue to do so. We know everything we do and we work for. We're trying to beat them every single day.

So it meant everything. And that's the game we worked for. And I was super excited for that moment for our players, for our fans, for the university to continue what we've been doing.

And we look to continue to uphold that standard. Absolutely, Sherone Moore, the head coach of Michigan football, few minutes left with him as he's on the recruiting trail in his first week, full-time on the job. So the national championship has won. And I know I'm just fast-forwarding here through that. I just yada, yada, yada'd one of the greatest three weeks of my entire life.

And I'm sure yours. But now I'm wondering if Jim's coming here to Los Angeles or not. How did you handle that interim period where you were the offensive coordinator and assistant and now wondering what was happening? Yeah, there was always the rumblings.

It was always the things. But Coach is very transparent with us and told us what he's going to do and what he's going to look at and his options. And if it was there, then it was there. And he would look at his options.

And if he thought it was best for him and his family, we would take it. So it wasn't a lot of worrying. It was just kind of worried about that day. What could we do that day to make sure that the players there were excited to come back and keep rolling? And they are.

And now they're out there working. But for us, it wasn't as much worry as happiness for Coach, but happy that we just won the national championship. I think some people go their whole lives coaching and never get to that point. So I think it was a blessing for us to get there. And obviously, we want to get there every year.

But so we definitely celebrated that moment of being national champions. And so now that you're on the recruiting trail, what are, I guess, the questions you're being asked by parents, by recruits about who you are and what you're going to do with this program now? What are you hearing the most? Yeah, they just asked me, will the program be ran the same, what the staff will look like? And I think all those questions will get answered as far as the program being run in the same way. You know, if it's not broke, don't fix it. There's a lot of things that we do phenomenal here. And I want to continue that path. And there will be things that I do a little bit different that are my way. But there's not going to be a wholesale change of the culture and the brotherhood that we have because it's really good. And I've been here for six years and understand what it's taken to get there.

And I'm not going to mess that up. And bringing the right people to coach our student athletes, be a part of our student athletes lives and really be their families is the number one goal right now. Do you have one thing because I'm sure many of my like minded individuals are want me to ask this, what are you going to do different?

What can you be specific about right here that you think is going to be different? The biggest thing is to be me. Coach is a special human being. He's an awesome, phenomenal coach person. But just in the realm of everyday living, I'm going to be who I am. I'm full of enthusiasm, just like coach. But I'm just a little different than him, you know, and I'm going to put my touch on the program. We're going to have fun just like we did before, but we're going to be super aggressive, super aggressive in recruiting, super aggressive in everything we do.

And the toughness, the physicality, the smash mentality that we have in the office of the high room will just continue to carry out through the University of Michigan football program. So you're saying you're not feeding chickens in your backyard? No, I don't have any chickens.

I got a dog, I got two daughters, but no chickens back there. So that'll be different. OK, very good. And so the NIL world and the lack of rules, quite frankly, that are uniform for everybody to follow. We saw the head coach of Boston College take a defensive coordinator position with the Green Bay Packers. We're hearing how maybe part of the reason why Jim wanted to leave is he's going to a spot for a professional football where there are rules for free agency and you don't have to keep recruiting those who are already in your program to make sure that they're happy. How are you in your ways, in your belief, equipped to handle this part of the business right now? Yeah, I mean, we really support NIL and what it means for our players, the earning of their name and image and likeness and earning what they deserve. So definitely going to fight for the players as much as we can and what we can do.

So as much as I can get the money and raise the money for our players, that's what I'm going to do. And it's just part of college football. It's evolving.

So you have to evolve with it and continue to stay ahead of the chains. And that's what we're going to try to do. OK. And then on the trail at all, is anybody being asked about the NCAA? Anybody asking you about the NCAA and the investigation and everything else?

And how do you respond when asked about that? Yeah, I mean, that's something that's out there. We don't know what's going to happen with it. And we're just going to take it day by day. Obviously, I think the president made a great statement talking about how our players, and we won it fair and square. Just like coach said, I think we're innocent. And we'll just keep trucking along and attacking every day.

And that's what we're going to do. OK, you got a phrase? You got a quote?

Anything like that? About, I heard you just say, attack each day. I heard that one. Yeah, we'll definitely attack each day with enthusiasm known to mankind. Understood, understood. But do you have anything, any one of your own?

You got one that you're hatching? I know you're using the word smash a lot. I'm hearing that.

I do use the word smash a lot, but no real quotes, no catchphrases, nothing like that as of right now that have popped in my head. But the big thing that we're going to do in our program, I've talked about, is we will do three things. We've talked about the process, the pursuit, and the standard. And we've hit the process. We talked about process over prize.

And we got the prize. Now you continue on the pursuit. That's the pursuit of greatness. And once you do that, you win a couple of championships. You graduate your players. You get them to the next level.

You see them be great husbands and fathers. You become the standard. And that's what we want to be. Well, I mean, it kind of feels like you've already jammed a lifetime of head coaching experience into like one month. You know what I mean? You know what it's like to coach a game if you don't know if you're going to be the head coach. You know what it's like to coach the biggest rivalry game I'd like to say in all of college football, if not maybe all of sports.

And that's an argument. You know what it's like to be there on the sideline of college football? You know, national championship, semifinals, the Rose Bowl. My goodness.

And then game plan for national championship within a span of six days and then become a head coach of your own. It feels like you've been through a lifetime already. You know, it's been people ask, like, how's the congratulations? How's it been? And it's been a super blessing. It's been phenomenal, but it's been a crazy three months.

And but I wouldn't trade it for a world. How old are your girls? Four and one.

So my four year old is her name is Shiloh and my one year old who turns two in June is Soleil. They are the bosses of the house and they know it. Okay, well, coach, listen, you know, whatever you whatever you need to maybe help out in any way, shape or form. You know, you've got a friend in me right here. Thank you. And no, thank you.

Are you kidding me? Good Lord. Thank you. Thank you for being you. And thank you for being part of the program and then taking it over.

And I can't wait to see what you do with it. I appreciate it Rich. You got it. Thanks again. Drive safe. Be well.

And let's chat soon. Yeah, we will. Thank you, man.

Appreciate it. Go blue. Yeah, go blue to you.

That's Sharon Moore, the head coach of Michigan football right here on the Rich Eisen show. Oh, baby. Okay. Hopefully I don't have that same jinx and others on this show. You set up the interview for me.

So you're the jinx. Oh, and I set that interview up too. So let's take a break here. Good luck. Oh, by the way, there's college football news that just broke.

Let's go. Oh, I can't wait to tell everyone about it. What goes through your mind when you hear everybody wants one of you? You know, it's flattering and humbling, Rich, but it's a result of the success we've had as a team. And, you know, it's just like, you know, but you know what, though?

It is true, though. Like, we got great coaches on our staff. We got good players. It's a great reflection of our organization and what we've done. And I think, you know, that's the biggest thing. And to see guys that we've worked with over the last couple of years, get opportunities with Matt and with Zach Taylor, you know, they're deserving of it because of what they've done on their own merit. And when they go in and compete for jobs, people say, man, we can see this guy leading our organization.

And, you know, I'm looking forward to seeing those guys thrive. Have you told Kingsbury that he has a job because of you too? No, that's the game. Cliff got his deal on his own. Okay. No, I'm sure he did. I know you had it. You know, you were knocking on his door to to join your staff.

I know that. So you're well, I know you when he was a, you panced him according. I got him good, didn't I? Yeah, you told that to Schefter that I did. You totally, what did you do to him? Well, basically, you know, we, he obviously has a pre-existing relationship with, with Patrick Mahomes. He was out here doing some things and Cliff was, was having dinner with him and a group of people. And we have a mutual friend and I tricked him into thinking that, you know, he was tampering and that he was gonna lose some picks.

It was what you changed. Somebody's, somebody's name in your phone to Roger Goodell. I did our mutual friend. He, yeah, I couldn't let this go on too long.

So our mutual friend, a guy named Chaz Gessner. We put, I put his number in my phone as Roger Goodell and had him send me a text that said, you know, Hey, this is tampering. You know, better than this, you guys are both, you know, and, and I showed it to Kingsbury and I said, you know, Mr. Goodell, he never texted me.

I said, you better call Steve kind of right now. And his face, he was like, he said, I thought I was going to throw up. He's like, that's wrong. I mean, I couldn't let it go on for more than 30 seconds.

It was a, it was a good, but a bad joke, man. I mean, he's like, you ruined dinner, man. Back here on the Rich Eisen Show, 844204 Rich, number to dial.

Hour number three, Tom Pelosero coming up. One thing I want to talk to Tom about is something that I just talked about with Jim Harbaugh and I just talked about with Sharon Moore and, you know, Jim's like, Hey, uh, I, I, I love the transfer portal. I love NIL for the kids and every coach that says I love NIL for the kids means it, right? I mean, they want the kids to actually get paid. Harbaugh, you could make the case with the NCAA didn't like getting a middle finger from him because he didn't, uh, play along with the whole hamburger thing, cheeseburger thing and, and what have you. But he also, he also said, you know, Hey, these kids deserve their money.

And, and, um, you know, he's been saying that for quite some time. The reason why I bring all of this up is because the NIL and the portal, if you handle the portal properly, clearly you can bring in talent, but you also have to make sure your talent doesn't leave. And if you promise NIL to a kid, it's not supposed to be an inducement. It's supposed to be you're here on this campus and you're going to be able to make all this money based on your name, image and likeness. But a lot of kids are being promised an opportunity to come to a school and get the NIL money. And suddenly somebody comes in from the portal and takes that kid's job. And suddenly the NIL money dries up and you don't have a contract. And it's tough to also keep your kids. It's tough to do all of this. Charron Moore's on the road right now, it's February, you know, second.

And he just had one of the longest seasons as he just pointed out. And so it's an easier gig to go to the NFL, which is kind of funny to say, because that is pressure packed. You can get fired really easily.

Case in point, how many jobs are open this year, right? The reason why I bring all this up is I, the reports are that, um, that Chip Kelly's interviewing for offensive coordinator positions. He was the one who came out and said, this is the way the NCAA should be. And he, he, he, he told you about a super league, essentially get a bunch of like-minded teams in terms of what revenue sharing needs to be and what revenue bringing in needs to be and what you're offering kids and what kids can make and scheduling is all sort of uniform and let's play it off. Let's play it off, right?

Let's play it out. And we saw Boston college just lost its head coach to the Green Bay Packers. An actual head coach in college football said, I will become a defensive coordinator in the pros.

It's tough out there. So when we have told you back in the day, what was it, 2020, 2021, when the super league formed for like a day and a half in Europe, it was like 46 hours. And, and we said, what would possibly become a super league in the United States sports scene? And we said college football. And you even heard Chip Kelly give some sort of a construct of what it would look like and what needs to be looked like. And I keep asking everybody here who comes in or on this show from the college football world, who needs to raise their hand and start taking the lead on this sort of thing. And you're hearing Nick Saban retired to say he would take a lead on it as sort of a de facto commissioner of it. Well, what happened a half an hour ago, the SEC and the big 10 announced a joint advisory group of university presidents, chancellors, athletic directors, to address significant challenges facing college athletics and opportunities for the betterment of the student athlete experience. Rick Dalton Jiff, there it is, right there. There it is, right there. One word to the NCAA, adios. Now that's a big leap. In this statement, Tony Petitti, the commissioner of the big 10 says how much of respect they have for the NCAA and they're part of the NCAA.

To quote the phrase of the league that Jim Harbaugh just joined, Jeff Laffley, the Boston College head coach just joined, Chip Kelly apparently wants to rejoin, not for long. Not for long. This is the way it should start. Because kids deserve their money. They deserve their money that's being offered to them and not pulled back because some other kid comes from the portal and go, oh, that NIL deal that we were talking about? Yeah, I mean, we can't offer it anymore. Or it dries up. Or the guardrails that all of these school presidents and athletic directors and coaches want can't be set up because there's too many schools asking for the guardrails to set up.

They all have different needs and different wants and different worlds. It starts with these two power conferences. And we just saw it happen on this day. 100% I'm going to be proven right on this. It's going to take a long time. But the fact that school presidents of the big 10 and the SEC are getting together and forming this and they're going to start talking and talking and talking about it until they come up with who else wants in on it?

You know who else wants in on it? Eventually the big 12, the ACC. Then you're going to have to see who's coming in and who's not because it's still too many schools to play. And they should just do it just like Chip Kelly.

Do it for football. The same way that Notre Dame could be an independent in football. Football can be an independent in college sports and let everyone else do their own thing like the old way. Because what? Softball teams, golf teams.

What are you going to travel across the country? Because the big 10 now goes from sea to shining sea. There are similar cultural and social impacts on our student athletes, our institutions and our communities because of the new collegiate athletics environment, said SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey. The big 10 and the SEC have substantial investment in the NCAA and there's no question that the voices of our two conferences are integral to governance and other reform efforts, said big 10 Commissioner Tony Petitti. Three words NCAA, not for long. And then the other word adios or adios muchachos. It's common.

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