Chargers Have To Take A Massive Swing Now

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He's in Indianapolis and will be joining us shortly. Hello, Chris Brockman. Hey, Suzy. How are you? How are you? Hi, Mikey Del Tufo. How are you, TJ?

Good to see you as well. It's just like I'm surprised we're not drunk right now, but it's kind of it's kind of cool to do the show this way. No mimosas. You like this or are you feeling thirsty? I'd rather be sipping on something. Then why don't you go get them? They're in the back.

There is a bottle in the back. Oh, well, hey, we still got two hours. I mean, TJ, maybe when Shaq is on, we just we can toast him a little bit and say happy holidays. Yes, I agree. Rich Eisen joins us now. Hi, honey. How are you? How are you? How's your hotel room?

Soft focus in the back. You know what? You know, that was my nickname in high school. Yeah, I don't know if I'm. Yeah, yeah.

That was me. Hi, honey. How you doing? I'm traveled out. I'm good.

I'm good. Just arrived. How come you didn't tell us that you got, you know, on the beaten path last night? We were in a text chain last night. This is breaking news this morning that you didn't make your flight to Indy.

But do I have to update you on every single move of my life? It's something that you would normally have brought up on a text chain that went on for two hours. They felt very left out, Rich. I think they felt like they were wondering why you didn't tell them. Like, it's kind of like, which never has the second cup of coffee.

We were kind of talking all night and then, you know, you're complaining about other things. But then I just figured missing your flight would be at the top of the list. Well, I didn't.

Excuse me. It's not like something happened to the flight and he didn't make it. I'm telling you, that's why I flew through Atlanta. And my flight from Los Angeles to Atlanta was delayed for whatever reason.

I never found out why. So I earned myself a nice night in the Atlanta airport Marriott. They were terrific.

It was great. I got my sleep. Then I got on the plane this morning. That was a little bit delayed as well.

If you really do you want to know anymore? The pilot came out of the cockpit and spoke to us directly in a very folksy down to earth, you know, whimsical manner saying that he was excited to it was great, actually. He did a good job getting out and he got on the on the microphone and said that he was excited to take everyone to Indianapolis and that there was a new first mate. But don't worry, he's not not letting that person fly. He's going to fly it.

And he's excited to go to he's he's excited to go to Indianapolis because his grandson has a basketball game later today. And that's when we made eye contact, because, you know, I was in the first row. And so and so and so but here's here's a good moment, though. He snuck it in as we were just all laughing about all his cracking wise that they were dealing with something that was going to hopefully get cleared up soon and would give us an update. And then pirouetted him like, well, where were all the jokes?

What was all the jokes? But everything got cleared up. The paperwork arrived.

Is this the sort of detail you're looking for, Chris? I mean, the paperwork finally arrived. I was concerned when I learned that information this morning.

That's all. So I just decided I would not like this if he's jokey jokey talking about his grandchild. And he's like, oh, we've got a couple of errors. There's a couple of nuts and bolts missing from the plane.

But we'll get those screwed in before we take off student purposeful, purposeful, purposeful. He was just like, you know, he was just getting this all warmed up. He was the warm up back to the to the unfortunate punch line that we were going to be delayed. But everything's fine. I am here. It's all good.

Actually, that point right around mid mid flight is when I decided to go soft focus when I when I zoomed in. And here I am. Here I am in Indianapolis, where we meet with the Steelers in about three hours. So we're doing that and getting ready for the game tomorrow. Excited.

All good. And then right around, you know, a power landing here in this chair, I learned about the Chargers making that bold move coming off of last night's game. And I'll be straight up with you. I am shocked that the Chargers actually did this because this is a team that doesn't make moves like this. But they also don't usually lose games where they're down forty to nothing against a team that was coming off a shutout, a division rival. Nonetheless, while the Chargers are imploding on the field, turning down tackles, getting blown out. You're seeing Mark Davis laugh it up with an absurd amount of water bottles in front of him. And you're hearing Antonio Pierce come out of the the locker room second half and saying, you know, we're going to we're not going to let up.

We're not going to let off the gas pedal. And he was I think he was probably going for the 70 burger last night. He was ready to just keep hitting that, you know, hit it again, sort of Hans Gruber style just to make a point, certainly to his own team and certainly to his own situation where he's an interim. He's an interim head coach trying to make points with the boss and the fan base by saying these guys are playing for me. Look how we're playing coming off of a three nothing home loss. And look how that team is playing the team that we're trying to beat every single year, the team that we beat on this field two years ago in the final game of a regular season, one of the many moments in Brandon Staley's career as the Charger head coach where Charger fans felt completely let down.

And I think Antonio Pierce is making a point to his boss to say, look at what I'm doing. And then again, I thought the Chargers were a team that would just let this thing play out. It's not as if any of the interim head coaches that they that they're putting out there have a shot at the job. They fired their general manager as well, which means they're clearing the deck.

And I'll get to that in a second. But in terms of Brandon Staley and the fact that his last game had Easton Stick getting eviscerated by Max Crosby and that Raiders defense and his defense, that he stepped to the podium two weeks ago and uncharacteristically, I think he was beginning to feel the heat with the media saying to the members of the media, I'm the one calling the defense. You don't have to ask me these questions anymore if I'm giving up the play calling. And that team was turning down Brandon opportunities to tackle Brandon Bolden in front of a national television streaming audience. It didn't bode very well for him. And the Chargers made this move. And two things. One, I think the Brandon Staley, the tombstone, if you will, on the Brandon Staley era of the Los Angeles Chargers is.

Here lies someone who couldn't get. Passed a fourth down decision successfully. You know that that's a that's pretty verbose, but here the fourth downs were always cropping up for Brandon Staley.

As I said on Twitter and reiterated earlier this week, coming off of their loss to Denver last week, that I can't remember a team that has had more problems in terms of decision making, execution and play calling on fourth downs in my 20 years with NFL Network, quite like the Brandon Staley Chargers. The analytics would say, go for it. He would go for it. And then the execution was terrible or the play calling was off.

And the analytics said, don't go for it. He would go for it. And then something would backfire on him. And then those three moments that he'll be remembered for two of them in Las Vegas, one of them in Jacksonville. Last night's game in Las Vegas being that 63 point destruction, 63, 21 or whatever that the final score was. And then that game that was game 256, the last game of the 2001 season where the winner goes on, loser goes home. And he lost to an interim head coach in that game to two losses in Las Vegas against interim Raider head coaches. And one of them cost him a playoff spot and one of them cost him a job that quite frankly, I thought he was going to lose after that third game that will always stand out.

The playoff game, the lone playoff appearance in the Brandon Staley era in Jacksonville, up 27 nothing, losing that game. And to me, I thought that not last night that we all thought it on the show. That was the referendum the Chargers players were giving on the head coach. Now, many of the Chargers last night saying we were playing hard for him and you're going to look in a mirror and all that sort of stuff.

But the the results belie that and some of the play belies that. And we all thought, how do you bring back a guy that just lost 27, you know, a game that they were up 27 points in a playoff game? And they did it and didn't go with Sean Payton. Instead, Sean Payton is the guy who's now in Denver, and that team is on a playoff run and knocked Justin Herbert out for the season, which laid the groundwork for Brandon Staley to lose his job. So maybe just maybe that was what caused Dean Spanos to finally pull the trigger here after watching the Raiders destroy his team in front of a national television audience in an embarrassing fashion.

And and here we are with the Chargers job open. You know, it's my thought on that was I covered the team 23 years ago for Fox Sports, you know, and twenty three years ago, the Spanos family was making questionable decisions. And my biggest thought is there are very few things that owners like less than getting embarrassed and they were embarrassed.

And I don't know how they could have kept him on after today. It would have seemed almost like a capitulation or, you know, a reluctance to admit that they'd made a mistake. I feel like they had no choice but to let them go. Well, I just thought, again, a team that didn't want to open their wallet for Sean Payton is what I believe would not want to pay somebody to not coach for three games and then have an interim head coach there that they have no intention of hiring anyway.

You know, but that's what they decided to do, Suze, because I think you're right. And I think the other guy, the guys in studio, we were texting at the same time about maybe even getting fired at halftime, which is what Richard Sherman said during the halftime show of Amazon Prime. And in terms of like, I think now what the Spanos is have to do is take a monster swing at this position. And we're already joking in some of the Michigan text chains that I have with my friends, you know, can we get an ankle bracelet on Jim Harbaugh when he's out here with the Wolverines for the Rose Bowl, like to see where his whereabouts are? You know, obviously, Bill Belichick, there's a hot rumor that it's already been or the report from Tom Curran that it's already been decided that he's not coming back to New England, that the Crafts will figure out a way to part ways with Bill or vice versa. Would they want to take a swing with either one of those guys out here?

And I think they should. I mean, again, Sean Payton, it was an open secret. Well, not really even a secret. Here last year in Southern California, he loved living there. I mean, anybody who knew Sean or knows Sean or worked with Sean, he loved living in Southern California.

He loved it. And and and working there. And here he is. And here you've got Justin Herbert to hook up to a guy who when he hooked up with Drew Brees, former Charger quarterback, he turned him into a Hall of Famer or unlocked Drew Brees's ability to give him either the confidence or the wherewithal of the scheme or just unlock Drew Brees to have him turn himself into a Hall of Famer. And you have that guy and you don't hire him and you stick with the guy who just showed in his first playoff appearance that he might be in over his head.

It just strikes me they got to make a big move here right now. And maybe Harbaugh, maybe my coach is the guy, if that's what he wants to do. And interestingly enough, the word is that Harbaugh was interested in the Broncos last year and they're ready to roll. And then Jim stayed at Michigan, which is what put Sean Payton in Denver. And now this might bring Harbaugh to Los Angeles potentially.

I honestly don't know. I mean, it's all speculation, but I just think they have to take a big swing because the other part of the tombstone, unfortunately, for the Brandon Staley era, is here lies the last three years of Justin Herbert's rookie contract. And we have no playoff wins and one playoff appearance to show for it, because this was the last year that they could keep everyone together and pay him. And Easton Stick just got his ass beat to cost Brandon Staley his gig on the defense as well. So that's why they got to take a big swing.

I feel I don't know. They might want to look at another hot coordinator. I don't know what their plan is going to be, but I know it's a very attractive gig. And it's it's got Justin Herbert sitting here with some other players that are are are good, but they're going to have to tear this place apart, I think, because it's Justin Herbert's first year of getting pizade. And I don't think they're going to be able to pay everybody. And that's maybe why they blew out their general manager as well. So whoever is coming in gets a full clean slate, front office and coaching staff. And we'll see what happens. Right. Rich, T.J. here, how are you doing?

I know who that is. Good question, man. What do you think this means? What's the writing on the wall for Kellen Moore? Because a lot of people assumed he could be next in line. But now you're saying take a big swing. Is he that big swing? Do you think that they're going to look outside or you think this is going to be his chance? Or do you think he's just stuck in limbo right now?

I don't know. I mean, Brandon Staley is the one calling the defensive plays. He's the one that had the offensive range this year. I mean, it's not just all Brandon Staley's fault, right? I mean, some of the fourth down play calls were weird, too.

I unfortunately think he's gotten his swing. I mean, honestly, if Jim or Bill come in, don't you think they're going to bring their their own people? And certainly their own front office. I mean, he's a talented he's a talented coach. I just I listen.

I don't know. I thought the spanoses would ride the string out, despite what you said, Suze, in your right. And, you know, you are speaking what a lot of people have been saying that you can't sit there coming off of that last night. But I honestly thought they would play out the strain.

So did Staley. He's like, yeah, we're going to meet tomorrow. I don't think there's going to be anything new. Well, there's something new. And and and we will see, you know, and interestingly enough, this, you know, the Chargers have some games against some teams that that are that need the wins against them. I mean, if you look at their schedule the rest of the way and if you're seeing last night as an indication of what you're going to see from the Chargers in terms of competitiveness or or points being able to be scored, you know, the Buffalo Bills are coming in there.

They got to be jacked up. Right. Then you take a look at Denver and Kansas City. Those are three teams that need the W's. And so this is what's playing out with the Chargers making this move with an interim head coach.

Maybe just maybe it might be better. Obviously, we've seen an improved play out of the Raiders, but not the Panthers. So this is just a fascinating plot twist, if you will, to the final three weeks of a of a regular season in the AFC West that everybody thought not only the Chargers could win, but use that to get to the Super Bowl. And here we are. And I think, you know, it may be 20, 20 hindsight, but we were all saying it on the show.

I mean, Sean Payton sitting out there, you could get him. You just lost a playoff game where you're up 27 nothing. How do you stick around?

How do you stick with this and run it back? They tried it. And obviously we see we saw the result of it.

I mean, does it pain you, Rich? This is like this is real now. This is Harbaugh real conversation. No, I know. No, I know that. And again, it may be I don't know what Jim's plans are or what Michigan's next two games hopefully will look like and how that might affect any of it.

I don't know. We had Bruce Feldman on the show on Wednesday and he just put it plainly is like no matter what contract Michigan could put on the table for Jim Harbaugh to keep him to stay. If that is something that they could do, the one thing they cannot offer him, if this is something that does, in fact, make him tick is they can't put a Lombardi trophy in the contract or the ability to win one. So, you know, if that is, in fact, what he wants to do and this is something that is a calling for him. I hope he wins two more games on January 1st and 8th and then goes and buy a Condios and and and see you in the AFC West or I don't know, Carolina, because I mean, if we're fully speculating here, does he want to be in the same conference as his brother? I mean, don't don't forget, you know, Peyton didn't want to go to an NFC team to the point where he might not have gone to the forty niners because of that. So I don't know what the next few weeks hold, but this is an incredibly attractive job. I mean, in a stadium that's going to be home to a Super Bowl, not just in a couple of years, but clearly so far as in a rotation, Southern California, Justin Herbert, AFC West, big time games and an ability to win a championship. Hopefully, if you can turn things around quickly enough, it is real, Suze.

But I mean, it's something that, you know, you have to expect and and certainly with the circumstances of the last several weeks surrounding the Michigan program, that is that is something that is real. All right. With your love of Harbaugh, OK, well, if he goes to New England. Do you root against your guy? He's not going there, by the way. What if he goes to New England? Ask the guy across me.

What if he goes to New England? You like that? No.

All right. You don't like anything. You don't like anything.

True. No, no, no, no, no, no, like anything. But no, I think, you know, that would be Gerard Mayo, you know, coach in waiting or something to that line. But again, I, I don't know. We have to see how that plays out, too.

You know, I don't know. I think, Rich, I mean, the trade is right there. Belichick to the Chargers. It's right there on the table. Just make the move for both teams.

It is right there. They're not going to really trade him, are they? Yeah, I feel like that if Bill is not coming back next year, he is gone via trade. That's why they extended him. You're not just that's how they got him. You're just not going to let Bill walk for nothing, especially. That's how they got him.

Yeah, I know that's how they got him. But and if he wants to keep coaching, get an asset back, get a second round pick back. There's so much I can't believe the way this season's playing out, throw your script out to just throw it in the trash. Like I told you, I'm telling you, it's good, man. Let's take a break, Rich. When we come back, let's do what's more likely. I also want to let you know that I may have spent a lot of money of Rich Eisen Show productions on your show already today. So I think I did. So we'll take a break when we come back.

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Thrilled to be here with you on the Roku channel. And hi there, guys. How are you doing, Chris?

Susie. All right. Mikey T.J. Rich will be joining us back again in a minute. Are you there? Are you there, Rich? Are you there? Oh, you're back. OK. No, no, I'm here. I'm never.

I didn't see the double shot. So I was just I was just ramping. Great. I don't need to be. I don't need I don't need to be double shot.

It's a little you, huh? Set up. Yeah.

Good set up, Rich. Phenomenal. All my fault. All my fault. I didn't see the double shot.

Normally, I don't like the blurry background. I just want to let everyone know what a lead pipe wielding professional I am. I'm always on the job.

I'm always looking for news to break. OK. And sure enough, as I'm taking that large escalator down in the Indianapolis International Airport, down to baggage claim, I cracked the case. Cracked the case.

Put put it up, Hoskins. There is the game ball right there, right on the floor, right on the floor. As soon as you get off the escalator, there's the starting five of the Indiana Pacers. And I found the basketball. There it is. So that's one of the two basketballs that were used.

Is that correct, Rich? That's one of two. I'm assuming I'm assuming it's the game ball because the Bucks did. So not to stir anything up, but I just thought it would calm the waters and crack the case that it is, in fact, in Indianapolis.

And it's on the floor of the baggage claim at the International Indianapolis. So is that the sound, the thundering sound of Giannis running now across the states to go? Do you not hear it? Yeah. Do you not hear it yourself?

I just thought that was Mikey D. So, no, that's the game ball right there. Well done. OK. Hey, thank you. That's all I'm looking for. I'm just just a pat on the back.

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And whenever we hear this in Westwood one, we both see at the same time call click Grainger dot com or just stop by. Well, I'll tell you what, our son Coop is he's on the news as well on the sports news that he texted me that the Yankees traded outfielder Billy McKinney to the Pittsburgh Pirates for international player cash. And thinks that that means the Yankees are going to get Yamamoto, that they're getting extra cash. And I thought to himself, God bless. Hey, guys. Hey, hey, hey, that's not a bad connection of trying to see put puzzle pieces together about what the Yankees moves are.

I thought that was very astute. You know, was this during class or was this during recess? Like, let's let's break this down. When did it was before he went? I don't know.

It was let me see. But around eight o'clock. All right. Yeah.

Let's be honest, putting together this type of info is way more valuable than anything he's going to learn in school today. I know Brockman agrees that he did. He may not set his lineup properly. That's all I know. That's enough. And not to not to stir anything up, but I will.

Because you look at me when Coop's fantasy lineup isn't set and he complains about not having his iPad time. The person in the host chair right now is somebody who is completely in charge of that soup to nuts. Yeah.

But do you think we're going to say something to Susie about that? Let's let's be real. You want a piece of this? Come on. Come on. You want to be crazy? I got my Andrew Whitworth look on today. I'm feeling good. You know, I'm feeling big and strong. I'm just saying I can't give I mean, look, yes, I will make a deal.

OK, please. Because this is our kid who never gets in trouble. He's a good boy. He's so good. I will allow.

They're all they're all great. I will hereby allow 15 minutes extra of time per day. I was going to I was just going to throw five. No, 15, 15. He doesn't need 15. But the approval comes in 15 minute windows.

That's true. But he has to use at least five of that on the just just to set his lineup. Because I can't stand seeing the pain in his face on the daily. OK, deal on the daily. So that way he can't get Yahoo'd.

And then when he researches cars for the other 10, 14 minutes, whatever. Look, we're doing him a solid. He needs to respond to trade offers. He needs to make additions, crappy trade offers like from you. I mean, it's time to text us and say, is this crap? Right, right, right. By the way, by the way, I got to tell you, Brockman's trade offer. The last time we were in this situation where I'm zooming in from the road and you were hosting Susan is not now is not a bad offer. I feel like I always assume the worst with Chris. No, no, no.

It was not a reason to. He's upgraded. He's upgraded from Tupperware to glassware. So he's he's up. He's not the same Brockman. And I'm the same guy.

What are you doing? What's more likely? Should we should we fire that up? I think we should fire it up. Should we tell Rich before or after that?

I've spent a fair amount of money on this show. That's what I was after. As we say goodbye and then we lost him. Right. He's hearing this, people.

Rich things were joking. What's more likely? Will I be displeased with that line of questioning or I will be happy? Very good. All right. Hit it. State of mind. Hit it. What? What's more likely?

Never say never, but never. Hey, Rich, what's up? Hey, Chris. Hey, what did you eat on the plane yesterday?

What do you mean? Like nothing. I got I did nothing. I stared I stared like vegetable lasagna. You know, I mean, gummy, gummy. Actually, no, I had vegetables. Actually, I had vegetables on Delta Vegetable lasagna.

But I'm feeling great today. What else? Rich, Rich, the more likely Pennsylvania team to snap a two game losing streak. Steelers or Eagles? Oh, God, I can't talk about the game that I'm I'm I'm so tough. I mean, I can't do that. I mean, I got to steal the fans upset with me enough. You can just pick the Eagles then. I mean, I'm interested. Susie, you answer it. What do you got?

What do you think? Steelers or Eagles? Pennsylvania team to snap a two game losing streak.

I'm calling Steelers coach. And obviously the the Eagles are in Seattle on a Monday night. Eagles.

OK, there you go. I'll keep that from Bobby Wagner after I interview him later today. I'm worried about the Eagles on Monday. I think Eagles, but don't tell Bobby that I don't want to be in trouble. All right, Rich, more likely Ohio backup quarterback to throw for three hundo for the second time this year. Joe Flacco or Jake Browning? Oh, I'll go Jake Browning, man. I'll go Jake Browning. I'm going to go Jake Browning here because I've told you. Have you decided who you're playing in your fantasy?

Have I? Here's the deal. It's supposed to be 85 percent chance of rain in Cleveland on Sunday now. So I was all Flacco.

But now I'm second guessing because of the weather. Please take Zach Wilson. Please use Zach Wilson.

It will be so great for everybody involved. Yeah, I'm going to have a chance to win because Palmer went nuts last night. So now I'm kind of in it. I got it. I understand.

I'm going Jake Browning. I know what the Vikings defense looked like. I get it.

And I know what they have looked like. The Bears defense has been bawling out. And I believe Jake Browning with Jamar Chase and T. Higgins has better weapons around him. So I'm going to take Jake Browning. Fair, fair.

Good way to talk that out. OK, here we go, Mike Del Tufo. This is for you. What's more likely?

DeVito wins his fourth straight or the Saints turn him back into a chicken cutlet. Oh, I'm. Uh. I'm I'm I'm I'm going to go.

I'm a you know, I believe in DeVito now, and I believe in DeVito. You tell Lexi, you tell Lexi, make sure you tell Lexi, you tell his mom, can Tommy come over to play? You want to. OK, sleepover, Red Rover, Red Rover. Send Tommy over.

That's what we would say. I can tell you, Jen, yes, I am going to I am going to stick with my Staten Island roots and say Tommy DeVito is going to go into New Orleans and keep this thing going. And he is going to he's going to be on every cereal box known to man in like one week, because that's what happens when you do it in New York. By the way, you know, if he did this for like Jacksonville or he did this for Houston, not me, but he's doing in New York City for the Giants.

And it's not like the Giants have 10 wins because they got five. Yeah. You know, well, now they're not going to get, you know, May or Kayla, you know, Caleb or whoever. How is a sandwich place not? Oh, he's getting some. Let's go to the national spot. Let's go. Chicken. I mean, you know, you know, the perfect follow up is is chicken cutlet or beignet.

What's more likely? Well, we already it's a what we do, jambalaya or minestrone, right? Yeah. Hurdle soup. I'm going I'm going Tommy DeVito. We're in.

We're in. Beignets are delicious, though. Yeah. I mean, jambalaya or minestrone. Really? Yeah. Cannolis are baby gumbo. Let's go.

All right, Rich, what's more lies for you? Zach Wilson lights it up again. The Dolphins offense looks lost without Tyree kill. Oh, I would say the Dolphins offense looks lost without Tyree kill. Come on now. The Jets defense is not the reason why that this is a loss season there. Come on. And look what they did on the Black Friday game when Tyree kill was there and handing off, you know, footballs into the stands.

Come on now. This is the defense that can absolutely without Tyree kill, wreak a little bit of havoc. So I think that's more likely than Zach lighting it up again.

I might even say both. I'm feeling that right now. I'm feeling it. New York's back to back weeks back to back to push both. I really believe it's the defense is going to make a difficult day without Tyree if he doesn't play. Tyree, I feel like you guys might upset them. I think that's on the table.

All right, TJ, QB stack. That'll win your fantasy playoff match up this week. Russell Wilson to Corland Sutton or Stafford and Pukadakua.

Oh, my goodness. I mean, I think that's a no brainer, right? I don't know if that's a no brainer. Stafford and Pukadakua get out of here, man. Corland Sutton against against the Lions or the Rams taking care of business against the Washington commanders, which is, my goodness gracious.

The thing is, they've been giving up more exists, too, so they could take away from comes up more big plays than the Washington commanders. All right, come on. Stafford and Pukadakua, baby, let's go do it.

If you have the opportunity to do it, I would do that. You know, I've been banging a drum for Corden Sutton all year. So he's been balling last last month.

He's been balling. All right. 10 and three road team. Rich more like going to get knocked off this week. Cowboys or Ravens? Oh, I'll go.

I'll go Cowboys. Goodbye, Rick. Come on, TJ. Come on, TJ.

Come on. You see the way the Bills are playing. You see that settled down just a little bit.

See the way the man. Maybe it's a little cold. Maybe it's a little cold. Maybe Dak has problems managing the game. TJ, he can't quit the Bills. He can't do it. I'm on him.

I'm on him right now. And obviously Jacksonville. I'm concerned about the Ravens defense minus Kyle Hamilton.

If he doesn't play, I think they're a different bunch. If that happens, it's going to be gross. And Buffalo 50 and rain 70 mile an hour wins on Sunday. Let's go, baby. Let's go. One hundred percent.

One hundred. I'll even go. I'll even choose. I'll even update. I'll even upgrade. One hundred ten percent. Oh, one hundred ten percent. I went upgrade. Doesn't matter.

Right after one hundred percent is my going to get one hundred eighty. So, OK, I stand by Cowboys. Oh, man.

All right. A couple more, Rich. What's more likely to be the higher total? The longest forty niners play on Sunday against the Cardinals or the total score in Chiefs Patriots?

Longest forty niners play or total score and I'll go total score in Chiefs Patriots. I'll do that. I'll do that. What do you think? Thirty seven maybe in the game? I think so. You're right. Longest play McCaffrey might rip one off.

Seventy yards start to see a debo has been hit in the home. Oh, yeah. OK. All right. Yeah.

Higher total is the forty niners play. All right. You're right. All right. Good enough. I'm glad I sounded that out. I got to the right answer.

He's going to break out a 70 yard run. Sometimes you got to talk this out. All right. Last one. What's more likely? Brock Purdy finishes with a higher passer rating this year.

He's at 116 or Mookie Betts, Freddie Freeman, Shohei Ohtani combined for more home runs. So we're not going to get this answer till next October. Yeah, but you know, the big move is this week. So I was just thinking about it. That's all. Why don't you just why don't you just give me what's more likely where the answer is just buried like Al Capone's vault?

We'll have to find out years later. All right. So in comparison, those guys combined for one hundred and twelve home runs. OK, this season and I'll take the Dodgers. I'll take the rating is 116. Man, they're getting glass now, too.

If they get Yamamoto, just, you know, just just pencil them in for a second round exit then. Nice. Look at you. Look at you.

First round exit. Look at you. Which one? Sarah will let you back home after that hurts. Wow.

OK, you can just drop cage off at the door. I like it will never be a Dodgers fan and you can write that in blood. I don't know why you're staring holes at me. We're on the same team. I'm not staring holes at you. I'm vibing with you. I get it.

Nice. Yeah, it's not a stare. It's a vibe. It's not.

By the way, Chris, don't worry, Chris. It took me five years to figure out the difference between a staring advisory. Don't worry about it. Took me a long time. Very good. All right. Good job.

Good job. That's what's more likely. Oh, more likely dinner tonight for rich shrimp cocktail. Oh, no, no, no, no. It's easy.

You can shave. No, no, it's a steak. I'm going steak tonight at a boy.

Where are you going? That place? The is this the one that's the place with the food, the place. No, it's the one from St. Elmo's. That's St. Elmo's. St. Elmo's.

What do you mean this one from? No. Hey, thanks for joining us. We're not even drinking today. Jeez, seriously. We're not even drinking. How do you feel about?

I could feel St. Elmo's fire. No, let me let me let me hear what what do you what do you what are you spending? Well, I was going to know I was going to talk to you about the Michigan linebackers coach going to Alabama. Do you want to talk about that at all? How do you feel about that?

He's not going to be one of the 10 guys on the field. But what does he know, Rich? OK, here we go, Suze. So I saw this yesterday, right? Alabama hires former Michigan assistant linebacker coach George Helo. OK, to come down on the staff here and here's what I think.

First of all, it's totally legal to do that clearly. Right. And as a matter of fact, it happens all the time with players from other teams that are released and suddenly get that player and you're building the week you're playing them to know about plays and tendencies and stuff like that. And the Eagles did this. If you remember last year, the Eagles hired Vic Fangio, who is still, you know, at home after the Broncos fired him a couple of years before. And the Eagles hired him as a special assistant before the Super Bowl because he's a guy who had been playing the Chiefs for years as the head coach of the Broncos. So this is an age old thing.

But in this situation, I just thought to myself, huh? So what Michigan, what we should have done is instead of hiring people to record somebody's other sidelines, we should have just hired somebody from the other sidelines to tell us the tendencies and the schemes to match up with the plays they already know and the signs they already know. We should have done that the entire time, you know, just get a whole bunch of coaches that are just sitting around and and hire them because, you know, that's actually upgrades it like Nick.

Nick says, OK, so let's learn their signs and their tendencies and their schemes. And let's just get that guy from the sideline. We have to shoot. We don't have to record their sidelines. Let's just get someone from the sidelines. I thought that was next level stuff and we should have done that. We should have done that. We would, you know, we would have been able to beat Ohio State with our head coach, you know.

So that would have been good. So that's my opinion of it. And we'll see what happens. And maybe it's like one of those moments where he was sitting in a film room with the Michigan's current defensive coordinator, Jesse Minter, like two years ago in the middle of the night watching film. And Jesse just tells him, you know, the one thing that really confuses him, one thing that, you know, that he needs, he needed to work on or one thing that this that always got to do is just tell Nick Saban one thing.

And it happens one time in the Rose Bowl and it makes the difference and that's why I guess you hire him. So. So is now a good time to tell you how I spent your money?

OK. And if Roku, Joe is out there watching, he is. I want you to focus on this. So two things, guys.

We need more swag because I gave away several pieces in the first hour. What are you talking about? Well, because Chris had a great idea. Chris want to lay it out. Don't don't don't don't. Chris's idea.

Do not blame me. This is all Chris's idea. Chris said, why don't we get screenshots of all the guys who picked like the Raiders? Yeah.

So I look based off what I tweeted out last night, Rich, that look, if you played O'Connell or the Trey Tucker or the Raider D or one of these yeah, I saw about three moves. Yeah. Did you call us one? Send us our screenshot. And then Susie was like, yeah, I'll give you a swag. I was like, Chris, that I should give away swag.

Stop it. So Chris said, why don't you why don't you send swag to these people? So that's a great idea, Chris. No, it's a bad idea. It's a terrible idea. I mean, it was Chris's idea. So but I don't think well, here's a good thing.

Here's a good thing, though, is how many people did in fact play Aidan O'Connell and Trey Tucker left. We have a couple. So I have to wash this mug. See this mug that I'm using. I'm going to wash it and send it out.

Raider defense. You can't give him a show used mug. Susie, I have a bunch of mugs at home. When she said she was going to watch it.

I have a bunch. I actually said to him, what if I wash this mug instead? And he said, great. That's number one. It's just going to cost me a couple of mugs.

I, you know, that's a minimum. Apparently, the mug that he purchased off of the site was only one sided and he'd preferred a double sided mug. OK, so we're going to order some up.

I also really like the Roku Channel branded, which I didn't show. That was from our Super Bowl. Swag back travel mug. You want one of those? I don't want one.

I want like 50 or 60. Yeah, because she's going to give them away to. Yeah, because the doctor is in rich. We've been taking some calls, working on therapy for me. Dr. Susie is a doctor.

I could have been a doctor. He's turning red right now. No, I'm not.

He's calculated. So in other words, in other words, rich, I'm going to use the guided card and just basically invest in some swag for the people, for the people, for the rich doesn't show fans out there. Yes, I want to start having people call in and earn swag. So in order to do that, we actually have to make it. Yeah. All right. Just let me know if I need to start breaking up some of the furniture behind me for firewood. Do you mind letting me know if a bunch of people started Trey Tucker last night?

You might have to wait out one of the kids might not have to go to college. Which I mean, honestly, we couldn't take enough calls. It was crazy. I love it. Well, a great job being a woman of the people. Thank you. I appreciate it. Eight four four two four.

Rich is the number. Nice. All right. Take take care. Have a fun time. Hi.

We will have a great day. Rich always gets nervous if I mention two words, money, credit and card. Yeah. Well, that's understandable, though.

I mean, it makes sense. All right. Let's take a break when we come back. We're going to talk a little bit more. Oh, Tony, maybe take a call. Call get ready for Shaq. Let's go, people.

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Find out more by searching the Stacking Benjamins podcast wherever you listen. I don't know if they still have a shot to make the playoffs or not. Do they still have a shot?

Well, yeah. I mean, all they have to do is just try and win one of the next two without Tony and and then he comes back and no one's run away with this league. No one's run away with this division right now.

You know what? I guarantee we'll win one of the next two without Tony. OK. And I'm guaranteed we'll make the playoffs. OK, I will write that. Write that down right now.

Shaquille O'Neal's don't make the playoffs. I'll come. I'll come with a Dallas cowgirl on your show with some pom pom for 10 seconds. Oh my gosh.

Wow. I will come. I'll walk out for 10 seconds.

And everybody take pictures, make fun. Then I got to leave 10 seconds. That's all you get. Got 11 seconds, not 12.

You get 10 seconds. OK, I'm on the skirt. This is a pom pom and a blonde ponytail wig. If so, that's if again, the Dallas Cowboys, they don't make the playoffs at all in the season. OK, now, what are you going to do if they make the playoffs? Oh, my gosh. Yeah. So that but I think that I think that I think they're making the playoffs. I'll do it with you, Shaq.

How about that deal? How are you, Shaq? First of all, it's not my fault. You need to blame it on the Dallas shops. I've been downtown Dallas looking for some big booty cheerleader shorts.

They don't have any. So, yes, I'm a man of my word. I guess I will come there one day, but you least expect it. Oh, and fulfill my debt. Well, but the thing is, I have to do it with you, Shaq. So I do need probably a little bit of a heads up, you know. But you know what? I don't want you to do it with me because, you know, you waited long enough.

You know, you're at the point to where you don't think I'm going to believe this. So just to prove it to you, I want you to be front and center. OK, and I'm going to give you 12 seconds. This is the best possible scenario, Shaq, is you've extended it two seconds and absolved me from having to do it.

Exactly. I just want you to sit there and watch. We were just listening to Shaquille O'Neal joining Rich on a Roku Only. He will join us up ahead in about 10 minutes time here on the Rich Eisen Show. Stream the NFL on Westwood One for free, sponsored by AutoZone. All season long, you can listen to every Westwood One broadcast of the NFL live on the NFL app by asking Alexa to open WWO Sports or on your Westwood One affiliate stations digital platforms.

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AutoZone restrictions apply. Draymond Green, a lot of talk about his suspension. We will talk about that in just a few minutes time with Shaquille O'Neal.

And yesterday we spoke. Actually, yesterday we heard from Mike Dunleavy Jr. talking about how Draymond's suspension affects his position on the roster for this team. How much does this impact your long term decision making on the roster and with Draymond in particular? Yeah, I mean, I think the bigger impact will be, you know, how we do the next 15, 20 games, and that'll probably determine, you know, where we go more than this this specific incident or this time away for him. The reality of the situation is if you're evaluating Draymond, his ability this year has been great. His availability is not. And so we need him more available because when he plays, he's really good. We're really good.

And, you know, that's that's the main thing. I don't think I need any more evaluation of Draymond as a player. We need a little bit more evaluation on his team and the chemistry and the lineups and all that. But from a basketball standpoint, you know, honestly, please, Draymond, we want to help him be on the court more.

Yeah, I think there's no discussion to be had here. It's time for him to get the help that he needs. And even even Rudy Gobert was saying that he feels a lot of empathy for him.

Wondering if this is now the time that he'll do some soul searching. I watched somebody put together a reel of every altercation. Not the Draymond had. It was something. Yeah, dating back to the Lebron play from the 16 NBA finals, all the way up into the Nurkic play, it was it just kept going and going.

How many plays are these? So and I think for me, when I when I look at Draymond Green, it's just the kind of a lack of accountability and just kind of this is who I am. And I know what my intentions are. It just didn't seem like a guy who was aware of how his actions were affecting, especially his teammates. Well, that's it, because every time he's got to sit, it affects the team. I mean, this is not just about him anymore. And I think you heard, I'm sure, Steve Kerr talking about it as well.

I mean, he couldn't have a better coach for him to play. He's going to understand from a player's perspective. But T.J., it looks like, yeah, I will ask Shaq about it just ahead. I'm so curious to hear about his thoughts on it. Chris, think about Draymond is when I hear people say, I hope he gets the help he needs and stuff like that.

Like, what does that mean? Do people think he's going to go see like Dr. Suzy or Dr. Melfi and lay on the couch and like talk it out and get the issues, whatever they may be out? I don't see it. He's out there playing basketball. He plays basketball in the way that he feels. Works for him, and I don't know, but it doesn't work for him. I just don't see it. I just don't see him going to a doctor and coming out after, you know, three sessions and going, hey, I'm cured.

I'm going to be a completely different basketball player now. I don't know. I just it doesn't take three. It doesn't start.

I didn't mean to interrupt you. It doesn't take three sessions and it takes a deep dive. And who knows what else it could take. But what's happening for him isn't working. And so it looks like with an indefinite suspension, there has to be some actual work put in or he won't see the court again. You know, I mean, the indefinite thing is also interesting, too, right?

They don't they don't put a number on it kind of gives a leak and out. But there are stipulations that he has to meet the population. But we don't know what those are. And we may we may not know until he's actually back. But.

Yeah, I don't know, it's like it's dream on green, like whatever you said, it takes more than three sessions, I don't know, but 12 sessions, whatever. Is he going to come back and be like completely dream on? Is he not going to be aggressive? He's not going to run somebody over, is he? You know, not going to elbow. I don't know. I think you get to a certain point in life and age.

Your patterns are pretty much stuck patterns. But you know what, T.J., there's always time to grow if you want. And so I would say if you want Shaquille O'Neal will be up ahead. We will ask him as well. We'll close out the second hour of the Rich Eisen show. Yeah, he strikes me as a guy, too, who it's like your buddy who has whether it's a gambling problem or a substance abuse problem, who doesn't think they have a problem. But everyone around him is telling them that they do.

That's right. That that's that's kind of how this dream on green situation looks to me. Like everyone around, even players in the league are being like, you know, dude, you need some help. And you got him up there being like, no, man, I'm good. What do you mean? But you're saying everyone around him, like the one thing we haven't seen or his actual teammates come out and say because they're the ones technically around that's true the most.

So, yeah, it makes sense for people that you're going to battle with. You're roughing up a little bit. You're being physical. We saw the Jordan Paul incident. I've yet to see a player that he actually his teammates with come out and say anything about. Well, that's kind of where it's so clear to kind of issue with. Stephen A was saying yesterday about questioning Steph Curry's leadership throughout all this.

Did you see any of those comments? I heard about that kind of interesting. Not sure if I agree with it. Don't really know what my I don't know. But like, but it's kind of interesting to bring up like, hey, like this is going on on your watch.

Where are you? You're supposed to be this all time great Mount Rushmore type player. Why are you fostering a different environment on this team? What's Steph Curry going to do, though? That's kind of what I thought as a grown ass man.

I totally agree with you. What can step? Steph is working to become the best Steph Curry. He can be on the court. You can't control like, you know, if Mike does something bad over and over, I can maybe like, Mike, why don't you try this? But ultimately, I can't do anything about what Mike does. Right. Steve Kerr said he needs the opportunity to change. That's what the indefinite suspension gives him the opportunity to do. You love Lala Kent on Vanderpump Rules.

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