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I don't think so. I saw that you guys made up a sexiest man alive cover, People magazine cover, fake cover, like Trump has man of the year cover hanging at Mar-a-Lago for Rich. Did you guys make one for me too? I think we ran out of time. Monday, we'll have some for you. Thank you. I felt left out too. Hi everybody.

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I am back today after Suzy so masterfully steered this ship the last couple of days. You get me today and Monday before Rich is back from Germany, but Rich is in Germany. As we speak, I'm told at Bernard Ryman's practice and the Colts as well.

Bernard Ryman, the big Austrian playing in Germany for the Indianapolis Colts. Rich live from Colts practice coming up in 20 minutes as it's the Colts and the Patriots, NFL Network, NFL Plus, plus.nfl.com coming up Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. We got a big show as you just heard. Not only Rich Tom Pellicero joins us in an hour. How hot is Frank Reich's seat?

Yes, it might be time to have that conversation. The man who leads the NFL in interceptions quick show of hands. If you're listening right now in the car, if you know who leads the NFL in interceptions, actually don't do that two hands on the wheel.

Yeah, that's not safe. His name is Gino Stone. He plays for the Ravens.

He's got a cool story. Gino Stone ahead of the Ravens. Big game of the Browns coming up in Baltimore will join us from Owings Mills. The the best kicker in the NFL Texans running back Dario Goomba Walle is going to join us from Houston after hitting that clutch fourth quarter field goal last week in their big win over the bucket ears and then prepare to laugh. The comedic stylings of Seahawks fan Adam Ray.

Let's go. He will be here in studio. Let's go say hi to Chris Brockman. To Jason Jason, you know, wave man, you just like waving Jason's last name, Jason Feller. I have no idea what Jason's last name is, despite the fact that I asked exactly 72 hours ago when we did this whole introductory bit on Tuesday. I do not know.

And T.J. Jefferson. I do know that. Good to see you, sir. What up? What up? What up? Today is a day as we get ready for a huge college football weekend and NFL weekend.

Today is a day where there could be breaking news during the show. There is a thought that the Big Ten may hand down discipline, some kind of decision, something, anything on Michigan and Jim Harbaugh as they get ready for their toughest test of the year to date in Happy Valley against one loss Penn State. Jim Harbaugh's attorney tells Pete Hamill, friend of the program, that Jim's getting on that plane one way or the other. He is flying to Happy Valley and it's one room airport. He is going there.

So we could have a stare down. The Michigan folks say, give us due process. The rest of the Big Ten says, wait a minute. Like if there's a mountain of evidence, why should we wait? The NCAA takes years and years and years and years and years and then just makes something up.

So if you have the evidence, the rest of the conference says, do it now. Michigan says, I know you are, but what am I? You guys are cheating cheaters too. As a matter of fact, you tried to help Purdue beat us in the Big Ten championship game last year and we have evidence and we think Ohio State did it. There's also this from some Michigan corners. I can't believe you told other people that we were cheating. It's like, shoot the Ohio State messenger. You told on us. I love that.

And I don't mean just from Michigan. I just mean General D. I can't believe that guy had the audacity to tell you that I was cheating. He's the bad guy. Anyway, we can figure it out when it happens. I'm just warning you.

It may happen during this show. I'll be honest as well with this point. I'm always honest. What a bogus preface. I'll be honest. What does that mean? Is it suggesting that when you don't say it, you're not being honest? It's a crutch. I'm trying to get that crutch out of my everyday speech.

Where was I? I'm kind of leaning. I think Harbaugh did do something. I truly think that the total deniability thing is kind of comical, but I also think there is something to be said for everybody is doing something.

He might just be doing it better than everyone else. Anyway, I digress. Let's get to the NFL. There was a game last night that was played.

There was? There was a football game last night that was played. The Bears of Chicago beat the Panthers of Carolina 16 to 13 NFL network often put something up on the Twitter before.

Hey, here's how all our talking heads think the game will go. Daniel Jeremiah, friend of the program, picked 1313. And when somebody clapped back at him on Twitter, how could you possibly do that? He wrote back because I've seen both teams play. Well, almost he almost got it. It was 1613 bears, and it would have been 1616 and we would have gone to overtime and in inevitably it would have been a 1616 tie at the end of overtime.

Absolutely. If the Panthers hadn't mismanaged play calling and the clock a bit, really play calling more than the clock and settled on a cold night for Eddie Pinero attempting to kick a rock 59 yards through the uprights. And it didn't work. And the bears survived, even though they inexplicably on third and seven had that kid right there. Tyson Bajan throw the ball rather than just milk more time leading up to a punt. If they didn't run for seven and Luke get see me, Luke get you come gutsy in that I guess situation.

Luke gutsy had him throw and Darnell Mooney caught it. Anyway, the Bears win. And because the Bears win, they move Carolina now to the number one overall pick. We're halfway through the season.

But if the season were to end today, we'd all be disappointed. But the Bears wouldn't because they would hold the number one overall pick plus their own pick, which is like three or four. Five says Michael Hoskins.

Here it is. So the Bears would have one and five if they picked right now. What a fascinating list.

There is very good. The Cardinals, the Giants of three, the Patriots at four, the Rams at six, the Rams at six. I don't think they're going to be at six when all is said and done. But the Packers at seven, the Bucks at eight was moving up was going to number one. Oh, I think I think the Panthers will be number one, but it's going to be the Bears pick. So who is going to train up with Chicago? I think they keep it and do what with it and take a quarterback. I think Justin Fields, let's say he comes back next week and all indications are he will be back next week, has a seven game audition, kind of for the Bears, but really for trade value.

If you have the number one pick and you could choose between Caleb Williams, who everyone just assumes is the pick, or Drake May, which many people will tell you, as down the stretch we come is on the outside and it's kicking. You start the quarterback clock again. You cut your quarterback salary down to zero, not really zero, but controllable.

You start your clock again. And that's what I think the Bears would do. So Justin Fields has seven games to figure it out. And look, maybe he goes lights out and the Bears have an easy answer.

It's Justin Fields. And then we could sell off that pick and use all those picks to build around it. Maybe that happens.

I like Justin. I hope it does. I just think that's not the likely scenario, but that's why we have the next two months. Matt Eberfluse was interesting last night. This after yesterday, he said Fields was doubtful, but he's out. And that made no sense. And he tried to explain it. Tyson Bajant won the game.

But listen, listen to what Eberfluse said to Kaylee Hartung on Prime at the half. Tyson Bajant looked his best on that last drive of the half. But what does he need to do to get in the end zone? Yeah, he really did a nice job on that last drive, as you said, and we're excited about this second half. We got some things up our sleeves. So we have some things up our sleeves now. Okay. The people at Prime loved him.

Al loved him. Heck yeah. Get people to stick around. We might have some, we might have the Stanford band on the field like we. Yeah, we're we're going to have Tom Fullery and hijinks here. You know, double reverse, triple pass, flea flicker, hook and ladder. What do you want?

Let's go. Anything didn't happen. Bears went three and out right there out of the gate in the third quarter.

But the Bears won, which led to this exchange on the podium after the victory. Did we see what was up your sleeve? Did you use it or I don't know what's up yours? Yeah. Wow. So the first question was, hey, you told the broadcast that you had something up your sleeve.

What happened? Did you just not get to it? Yeah. You know, we didn't get to it. You know, we had we had some stuff, Abra Cadabra. And then the following there you heard was, well, can we see what was up your sleeve?

No, what's up yours? Makes sense. I was just going to say that. And then he realized, you can tell the look on his face is, oh, that came out funny, didn't it? So yeah, the Bears win the three and seven very genuine laughing.

I mean, what are they? I was, I was getting ready for bed last night. The game's over. I'm like, all right, I'm good.

Let's find something on Netflix. And um, but I get a notification on my phone anytime an NFL team puts a live press conference up. Okay.

So I get the notification. Ah, you know what? I'll, I'll see. I'll see.

Iber flu. See if he has anything to say, like always thinking ahead for the show tomorrow. Right.

Anything to say about Justin Fields, anything to say about Tyson, Bajant, anything. He has that exchange as I'm brushing my teeth and it was kind of like, whatever you get it. I was giggling.

No, what's up yours. Okay. Anyway, you started finding it so amusing.

It's funny Kara Henderson and I many years ago when we did NFL total access now Kara Snead, um, we, we did a segment that made me snort because every now and then we would make each other laugh and that would make us snort anyway. Okay. Let's get to the Carolina side of things because it's bad. There's no other way to say it.

It's bad. And it doesn't help that CJ Stroud is lighting it up. Well, Bryce young is not, they don't have a lot around him in the last year. They have traded Christian McCaffrey and DJ Moore, their best two offensive weapons. You could argue that they've had in the last decade. I don't know if that overlaps with Steve Smith's time.

I don't think it does, but you get my point. The last five years, their best two offensive weapons, Christian McCaffrey and DJ Moore are gone. It made sense to trade Christian McCaffrey you're rebuilding of a mat rule. Didn't necessarily think he was at the time, but we're paying a running back 16 million. We're not going anywhere.

Okay. Let's trade the running back. That makes 16 million. It makes no sense to pay a running back 16 million when we're not good. So they made the trade DJ Moore. I'm sure they regret having to throw in to get to number one, but they threw him in. He's a bear. Every now and then you remember that he's a bear and somebody throws to him, but he's not a Panther. And as a result, Bryce young has Adam Phelan to throw to love the guy, Adam Phelan, probably with some truth serum would admit to you that he's not a number one anymore.

Probably never was. He's really good, but there's not a lot around Bryce young. The line isn't good. And they're an offensive mess. The former players that I respect on Twitter last night that were questioning aloud. What is this offense?

Like, what are we watching? Yes, it's a short week. Yes, he's a young quarterback. Yes, he's on the road. Those are tough circumstances, but the bears aren't that good.

They're just not. And you expect more, especially two weeks ago, Bryce young of the Panthers at home had their big breakthrough. They beat CJ Strad in the Texas.

That, that meant a lot for a lot of reasons. And since then face plan last week to pick sixes by Kenny Moore, making him the AFC defensive player of the week against Bryce young. And then what we saw last night, play Frank Reich, if we could please on the podium afterwards. We're not producing, you know, we're not scoring points on offense. We got to be better. I believe we will be better.

Yeah, I mean, that's, that's how I feel. And listen, this is it when we say, I don't think we have any unrealistic expectations that, you know, it's not like we're saying, we've talked about this before, scoring is down. We just got to figure out, play well enough to win football games. That's really what I'm concerned about is winning. I'm not worried about how many yards or what the stats are concerned about playing winning football. And I don't want to get caught up in the stats. I want to get caught up in winning. And, you know, we've got too many close games where if we play a little bit better on offense, we win. And so that's what I'm not going to focus on how many yards or what the run pass ratio is.

Those are all fair questions and ask away. But, you know, for us right now, it's just making plays to win football games. I don't know if the average fan understands the emotional toll these games take on the men in that room and that includes the coaches, that includes everybody who work around the clock, who works around the clock to get ready for game day. And the look on his face says everything. And I recognize that look. It is very similar to the look that Frank Reich had last year when trying week in week out to explain why they lost again and why Sam Ellinger is playing or why they've decided to put Matt Ryan back in or why they decided like last night to call a timeout on third and 10 after already breaking the huddle, then changing the play, then not running to get closer and then sending Eddie Pinheiro out there on a cold night for a 59 yard field goal try to tie the game. I think Frank's in trouble. I don't wish it on him, but the look on David Tepper's face when he was shown at Soldier Field last night, shaking his head and then covering his face, it's not a good look.

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The Colts and the Patriots Rich Eisen on the call live. Hello, sir, from Colts practice. Did you ride a bike there?

No, I didn't. I just took a vehicle with the rest of the team that's calling the action. I'm sitting in a small room atop.

I can't use the word atop. It's a very small facility here. I'll just show you a little bit because the Colts probably don't want you to see them on the practice field, but you could see that's where they're practicing. Oh, and it is raining. It is raining here in Germany and it is raining on top of the Colts practice. They arrived about five hours ago. They are jet lagged out of their minds.

And so is Belichick, who, by the way, mentioned that on his in his press conference earlier today that he was he didn't know if he was going to make the night is basically said. So it's a makeshift situation for me. I'm holding my phone. You could see my finger in the middle of it. You know, that's what I got for you.

This is this is what I go through for what's more likely. Lots of rain on forecast. I mean, yeah, this is great, I think. Hold on a sec. Let's let's reset for the radio.

Three is going to be raining sideways right now, actually. And we're back on the Rich Eisen show. There's Chris Brockman on one side. There's Rich Eisen in the middle live from Colts practice here. I am at the Rich Eisen show desk furnished by Granger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Granger has the right product for you.

Call or click ranger dot com or just stop by. Rich just showed out the window that it is raining in Frankfurt. And remind me, you describe the stadium there as kind of like a canopy, right? Yeah.

Yeah. So if it's raining, that's the problem if it does rain sideways on Sunday, you know, and because there is a sort of open open portion of the stadium of about 20 feet in width between the canopy and the top row of the stadium. But it won't be an issue. The weather won't be an issue for the game. And it's it's Colts Patriots beating with the Colts literally in 40 minutes. Shane Steichen and and the rest of the crew is going to be walking in here. And that'll be part of the conversation is this game. And we meet with the Patriots tomorrow after their walkthrough at the stadium. Belichick showed up smiling today. Yeah, which is good.

And he looked no, no, I think he's just jacked to be international here in Germany. I think he's really, you know, he appreciates being on the road. So boy, it is pouring right now out there.

So the Colts will be I don't know, they're going to come in earlier or what, but they're going through some some punch drills right now in the rain. That's what they got going on out there. You know, it is I think it is notable that he was a little bit looser a couple of days ago. He rich when he was in Foxboro and he was pressed on the hey, how great is it to go overseas and this and that all the typical international questions, something he normally embraces. I think he was shutting it all down. But he was a different guy today. And somebody pointed out to Matt Jones when Mac Jones is on the podium. Hey, we just really enjoyed our time at the bill. He was loose and laughing and actually, oh, that's that's cool. Yeah, we get it too.

Like it would almost seem like maybe you get maybe this this trip does them some well, does them some good. Well, I don't know. We'll find out. We're going to find out Sunday.

Have we found out from the Big Ten? Are they going to move yet? What are they going to do here? Have they done anything like damn near?

It's less than 24 hours to kick off. They have not. They have not said a word. Pete Thamel at ESPN reports that Harbaugh's lawyer, Harbaugh's attorney, tells Pete that he's going to get on the plane one way or the other. There is I don't think there's a guarantee that they're going to do anything, but there is a sense that they may. So in other words, Rich, we're in a holding pattern waiting for the hand of Tony Petitti to lay down. Yeah, I I just can't believe that I almost said earlier this week that, you know, if the Big Ten hasn't acted yet, then they're not going to act this week because you can't just suspend somebody just before a game.

Because, as you know, the NFL always makes always makes suspensions of this sort known well in advance before a game. But I can't believe this thing is still in limbo right now. And I'm seeing a lot of the discourse throughout the day on social media. And I'm and I'm kind of holding my fire because I don't know what's going to happen yet. What do you think should happen? Nothing until this this investigation is complete. Do you mean an NCAA investigation, which may take three years? Yeah, correct. Well, no, it shouldn't take three years. You should take a little bit less than that.

You know how they were. Well, then, well, then what do you so what are you going to do? You're going to you're going to you're going to suspend him based on coaches and athletic directors complaining and reports here and reports there?

Or are you going to actually have in from? And by the way, the Big Ten suspending him now, there is no language in the sportsmanship rule that apparently the commissioner is considering suspending Harbaugh under. There is no latitude for him to suspend because he should have known. That's an NCAA rule. That's not a Big Ten rule. And there is no evidence at all that he knew what Connor Stallions was doing.

I know none of it looks good. I know the court of public opinion is absolutely all over Michigan. I see the trolling and Michigan deserves it. I have no idea why this guy, Connor Stallions, was anywhere near the program. But honestly, does anybody know for sure that Jim Harbaugh knew?

I said this entire time that if Michigan was caught, you know, in an investigation dead to rights, then it deserves the punishment requisite to the crime. But right now, we don't know. All we know is that this guy got a bunch of tickets, got a bunch of people to shoot videos. And has anybody seen any any of these videos? I mean, I think we know why he was close to the program.

He was awesome at stealing signs. Of course. But so is Ohio State.

And so is Rutgers, apparently having given Purdue the sign where the videos of their people on sidelines next to the defensive coordinator and the head coach. I don't know. Do you know who do you know who those people are on their sidelines? Chris, are you are you fully aware of everything?

Because no, no. But we know you and I know who this guy is. So because he's been he's been cut because he had he had a write up in The Wall Street Journal. Chris, again, listen, you are 100 percent in the right for everything that I see you tweeting, everything that you say here on this show, everything that you say because it is a conversation to be had.

What you think, what I think we can get to the commissioner. I mean, Michigan is the one that's been caught here. But for the big tent, because have the other schools been investigated, how they got Michigan signs? Do we know that it was nobody sitting there and stand shooting your videos? Do we know that? Do we know that you get them legally? Do you know that? I don't know that either. Coming back like aha are assuming that it's illegal.

Well, no, I'm not assuming that it's illegal. I mean, no, no, Chris, listen. No, no, no. Hold on. I'm not done yet.

I'm sorry, Andrew. No, because you, you, Chris, and you and I can have these conversations and you are absolutely right in saying what you're saying. But you're not the commissioner of the big tent. You can't act until, you know, for sure.

And you haven't investigated anybody at all. But the one thing that you're going to do right now is to spend the Michigan coach a day before the game. That's what I'm saying. No, that's kind of insane to have waited this long and to do it, you know, hours before the game.

That's crazy. You're asking me. So you're asking me what should be done. I'm saying nothing at this moment.

I mean, kickoffs in 24 hours less than that. So look, Michigan has put themselves in a position to be open for this sort of speculation, for this sort of criticism, ridicule, whatever. But in terms of suspending the coach, you know, for sure he did it. This has been fully investigated. This is within his rights to do it. I don't know if we know that for sure.

And then, you know, again, and then we also don't know what Connor stallions has kicked up. Just look at me. I'm a 54 year old guy who, who is good at broadcasting.

I think we can agree with that. I can't keep this camera straight to keep my face in frame. You're going to handle, you know, you're going to hand a phone to some division three coach and say, shoot the number of times that I hand a phone to somebody to shoot the video. I see the ceiling. I see the floor. I see a wall. What I want them to shoot is nowhere in the video.

And they hand the phone back to him like, Oh great. Do we know every single video was actually used to affect? We don't know. And we should know before these suspensions take place. I think that's called due process. That is something that clearly isn't happening. Right yet. That's what I'm saying.

We don't know. It sounds bad. It looks bad. This guy clearly was doing something wrong, nefarious, illegal, whatever you want to say, but that Jim Harbaugh gets suspended for it needs to be fully investigated. And the NCAA has the rules and the bylaws to say, you should have known, which is what Bruce Feldman said.

The big 10 does not. That's my two cents. I think am I in frame? I can't even tell. Oh, wait a minute. Look at Stacy Dales.

Hold on a minute. Rich, your passion's coming through regardless. Hi Dales. Hey Dales.

She's got, she's got something to keep the picture straight. This is tremendous. This is what Canadian ingenuity right now.

This is what Connor stallion should have had. Hold on a minute. Well, we watched the Ohio state game, what he had worked. This is the rich eyes and show. We had it for a second. We had it for a second.

Oh man. So rich is assuming that the big 10 doesn't know. Maybe they do know what I wanted to jump in and say when, when anyone rich included says, we don't know. You're right. We don't know what the big 10 has. And I think there is an assumption that the only thing that they have is what we know from the reporting of Bruce Feldman and Nicole Auerbach and Pete Thamel and Ross Dellinger. Right. But it also seems like that thing that they posted yesterday, the 10 pages appears like half of it was lifted from a Michigan fan blog. So what do we do? Cause you know, cause Chris, Chris, do you write the blog post?

Do you know who wrote the blog post? The lawyer, rich, you know, it's great. When Tom Brady left, you said, welcome to the rest of us. Welcome to being a fan 20 years ago.

And we had to go through all the crap. So you're, you know, I hope you're enjoying all this. By the way, I'm not, by the way, I ran into two Patriots fans in the elevator cause I was wearing my Michigan gear to go work out because you know, my body's a temple. And you know, they were, they were saying to me exactly what you just said, Chris, and just one last thing. And then we can drop it if you want about the whole thing about the Ohio state thing that you said before, you know, I screwed up the zoom here. Do you know what CJ Stroud's numbers were in the two losses to Michigan?

Do you know what they were? I'm just, I'm just poking fun at you, man. Cause you're just so fired up about it. It's just, we can just relax and move on. Okay.

Sounds good. I, but I see you just poking fun at me. This is what TJ, what, what TJ? You're just, I don't even want to say this to you, man, but it's like, is it, is it wrong for me to sit here and say, I don't care. I mean, I know like you guys, I'm sure a lot of people do. It's just like, everyone cheats. Like Dan Wedsall said, everybody does something to get an advantage. It's like, they're making it seem like, and I have no dog in this fight, but it seemed like you guys are doing something. What was the Tristan Thompson line you gave me? Oh yeah. Tristan Thompson said that every time he cheats the next day, he feels terrible.

Like every team has sign stealers. Right? So what do we, I don't understand it because what, no, no, because what Michigan did with the, or what this guy did is beyond the pale. It's beyond the pale. It's totally unnecessary. It's totally ridiculous.

It's totally against the rules. And you know that, you know, so I understand, I understand the scorn. I understand that, you know, the, the mascot you know, the Purdue mascot had, you know, an Ohio state gear on with a camera. You know, I get it, you know, people are open to it. And Michigan's left themselves open to it, but you asked me what should be done.

That was my, my two cents on it. You want to do what's more likely. What do you want to do? Whatever you want to do. You're on a roll, man.

You're on a roll. Whatever you want to do, but I promise I'm a Michigan free version of what's more likely back off. Okay. What's more likely?

Never say never, but never. Hey, happy Friday. My shot. My shot is so much better. It's great.

Fantastic. Canadian touch. You're in Germany Patriots taking on the Colts. Who's more likely to be in their current job with the Patriots in 2024, Gerard Mayo or bill Belicheck.

Oh, I'll go Gerard Mayo. I got that feeling. I got that sense. An interesting way to put it right there. I don't know every single time I keep saying on the air that I can't believe that the Patriots will part ways with Belichick.

I keep getting texts from a bunch of folks in Massachusetts and the new England area saying, and why do you think that? Why, why, why, why don't you think that craft that they've had enough of the losing? I just still can't believe I will just believe it till I see it. And no, I won't believe it until I see it and just stay. It'll still be Belichick and Mayo and they'll figure out some way to get an off-ramp.

Otherwise I'll just stick with that. Thanks to the bears for winning the Patriots. Now, what do you think? What do you think? Chris? I don't think they win on Sunday.

So it just kind of, no, I would do the answer to your question to your theory. Well, I'm not playing the game. Rich is playing the game. Let's move on.

Come on, Rich. What's more likely Bijan Robinson gets 20 touches and scores a touchdown, or we're wondering WTF again on Monday. Oh, we're WTF. Oh yeah.

That's what we're doing. I, I, I, I don't understand it. I will never understand it because it's week 10 now. Like I don't, what, what rookie wall are we concerned about here? I, I just don't get it. I don't understand it.

This should be a Bijan game. Like I said, I just want to see him touch it six times in the first drive, just like Jamir Gibbs did the last time the lines played and see what happens, you know, what, what's, what's the big deal? I don't know. I mean, if you really want to go full conspiracy theory, we'll find out somebody in Arthur Smith's family has Algier and their fantasy, you know, that 20, he hasn't had 20 touches since week two. And guess what he did in that game?

I don't understand it. And 70 total yards. Did you see the five and a half minute answer rich that, that Arthur Smith gave this week? And he said nothing five and a half minutes. And he said, no, I know. I'm sure he feels, I'm sure he feels and he knows what's best. All coaches do. And I'm sure he knows what's best for the kid, but I just, I, I, I don't get it. He's a difference maker.

And normally that's whose hands you put the football in. Yeah. Couple, couple of big games. I'll say I'll still go. I'll still go WTF with that one. Couple of big games for these two teams, which NFC North team most likely to get a road win Packers or lions.

I'll go with the lions. Yeah. Out here in SoFi.

I'll go with the lines. Yeah, man. You know what? You know, it's an underrated fan base. That's been traveling the lions are an underrated fan base that's been traveling. And I have a feeling we're going to see more silent snap counts for Justin Herbert in the home of the chargers this week. And I think the lines are coming to town and they're going to put a bang thing on. That's what I'm smelling. That's what I'm sensing right now. I'm sensing it. I feel the line David Montgomery's coming back.

They're fully, they're fully equipped and fully healthy. I'll go with the lions right here. Which team that you saw last week is most likely to win the bye week. Chiefs are dolphins. What? Okay. So what that means is everyone else is going to lose.

Yes. Rich speaks my language. And so I will go with the chiefs because I think the bills beat Denver. And even if the Vegas Raiders beat the jets, it doesn't mean much for the chiefs anyway. And so I'm not saying that if Denver wins, it means much. I'm just saying that the bills are going to win this weekend against Denver on Monday night. I'll be back in the country for that one. We'll do overreaction Monday in person on Monday.

So I'll go, I'll go with the chiefs winning their bi-week. Certainly since apparently Travis Kelsey is in the Southern hemisphere to watch his girlfriend perform. Is that true? That was the rumor. That was the, that was the rumor last week on the pod, on the pod this week. I listened to it yesterday.

I think the, the Jason and Travis, whatever, whatever they call the thing, new Heights. Thank you. He said, what do you do in the bi-week? Ah, I think I need some sun.

I'm getting pale. Where are you going to go? I don't know. South like North or South of the equator. I don't know.

Maybe South. And that was it. That was the whole conversation. But she's in Brazil. I think that's Argentina.

I believe that's the word. So I think the chiefs win the bi-week sir. Got it. Handily more likely to be the higher total rich Browns Ravens combined score or Donovan Mitchell points against the warriors tomorrow. Look at you prompt Betton. Um, how's how's spider Mitchell been doing lately?

He's like 30 plus a game. Okay. Um, then I'll take him. Oh yeah.

Yeah. High score game. Donovan Mitchell against the warriors. I'll take spider Mitchell. I don't think there's going to be many points scored in Browns and uh, and Ravens two great defenses. Can't wait to see, uh, Sean, uh, versus Lamar for the first time in the AFC North. Uh, but I I'll go with a Donovan Mitchell. That's more likely.

Love it. And he's on my fantasy team. Uh, rich. These two teams play each other this week, both five and four. Who's more likely to make the playoffs saints or Vikings. Oh, I'll go saints. I don't know. Josh jobs has the, we'll just see if the carriage stays away from the pumpkin. You know what I mean? Um, and Derek Carr and the same things I think are beginning to play a little bit better, even though they had trouble with the bears.

There's always just seems to be some gear missing that they might be able to find. I would take the saints, uh, certainly because the Vikings would have to be as a wildcard and the saints can win their division. Just that alone makes them more likely. Reg, Kyle Murray is back. What's more likely to be the greater number Cowboys winning margin or Kyler Murray completions.

Dude, look at you. I'm trying to figure out how to work these games into the what's more likely. It was 40. It was 40 in week one, the margin of difference and that was with Daniel Jones in New York. This is Tommy DeVito in the Metroplex. So I'll go with the Cowboys margin of victory just because it seems that I pissed off TJ by going all in about my Michigan Wolverines a few minutes ago.

I want to give some flowers to my guy. No, I wasn't even mad at you. I was just, look, Brock was trying to beat you. We get it. It had nothing to do with you. It's just the whole thing.

It's just like, what are we doing here? But this was, this was not a knock on you, Richard. Not this time.

Thank you. I'll be Mr. Positive here. Can you imagine if Tommy DeVito?

It'll be the greatest. Hey, careful, TJ. Last time I was side by side with Andrew. We almost spoke that into existence. So you be careful. Don't you speak that?

Don't you speak Ricky Bobby? I'm careful. I'm just supporting the Syracuse guy in Tommy. That's all I'm doing. I reached two more quick, huge game in Jacksonville and Duvall this weekend.

More likely the running back to score multiple times in the win. CMC or try ETN or CMC. Oh my God. I'm going to go ETN. He's he's he's been awesome.

Yeah, he has. I'm going to go ETN even though I mean, see him. Oh, that's a tough one. Can I do a Nick Pecan push? They both do it. How about that? They tie. Are you calling a tie?

Push. Yeah. I say they both do it. How about that? I'll go next level. That's more likely. They both do it.

Well done. Last one could be a shootout in Tampa quarterback. More likely to throw for three hundo. Will Levester Baker Mayfield. Oh, I'll go Baker, man.

I'll go Baker. That's my son. That's my quarterback. I'm going to go with him.

That's him. He played a big team, played a big 12 game in Houston last week. So I'll take Baker. Good this year.

12 to four times. I'm rooting for him. As you know, so good.

What's more likely? I like, I know. Me too.

Me too. That's great. Stay dry. That's great. Stay dry. Thank you. Greatly appreciate it.

Everyone should watch the game on Sunday and just also know that the last two November CJ Stroud completed 67% of his past is throwing from 740 yards against Michigan. So, so much for that. But anyway, hey, I'm out.

Rich. Good luck tomorrow. Thank you. See you later, guys. All right. We, uh, we're a little late cause cause we got a little heated when we come back.

I I'll tell you what I think about Michigan. What is going on with you, Jim Brock Meyer and Brett Musburger, my Musburger face. No, you can't put that to bed.

Rich as you know why you can't put it to bed. Okay. Cause he's a punk. That's why Brett Musburger is a P U N K punk. The man is a thief.

Okay. Brent Musburger is a thief. How so stole my line. What line was that? This is for all the tostitos.

Remember that these are all the tostitos. Remember when he said that everybody in the business? No, it's not funny. Everybody in the business knows that was my line, but he went ahead and used.

That's what I always yell when I climax inside of a woman or when I'm just, when I climax all by myself and ever since then, now I have to yell out the ruffles have ridges and it's not, it's not the same thing. Here is Brett Musburger. How are you Brent? Hey, rich, rich. I'm great. Listen, I'm so proud of you guys for trying to help resurrect little Jimmy brick Meyer's career. We all know the problems.

We all know the problems that he had in the past. He says that you stole all the tostitos from him. Brent from back in the day, I got paid. I got paid by a company to drop the name.

I got three tostitos for a week. What are you talking about? Get over it. It's really interesting because as we started these sin here in Las Vegas and a brick Meyer was having trouble getting the job. So, so he, he called our executives and our general manager, he interviewed brick Meyer and ask him about a three team parlay and, and our, and our boy, Jimmy, he thought that that was two hookers with him in a Morris town hotel. You know, Jesus, we would have loved to help him out, but I wish him the best. He's so delusional and listen, let him go at it or all the tostitos baby.

Hey everybody, how are we doing? That Brock Meyer stuff makes me laugh. The Browns have ruled out both starting tackles.

Is that good against the Raven? Yikes. Yeah, but you knew that already.

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Get in the zone auto zone restrictions do apply. Final thought on Michigan until we hear something. I think rich does have a point. You really, it's not fair to suspend a coach 24 hours before the game is they're about to get on the plane, which is roughly now at 1 PM Eastern time to go from Ann Arbor to Happy Valley. I don't think it is fair.

Yeah, the one room airport. I mean, it is kind of, yeah, I don't think what's one more game. I think it's safe to say that Michigan, everyone's watching them. They're not going to be cheating in this one. So if there ever was cheating, allegedly. So if you've made up your mind, don't, don't tell them now. You could tell them on Monday. I think rich has a point there as for this idea.

And I, you know, didn't want to argue or get into a screaming match, let you and Brockman or rich and Brockman do that. This idea that they have nothing, let there be an investigation. We don't know what they have. We have zero idea what they have. We know what Bruce Feldman and Nicole Auerbach and Stewart Mandel and Pete Thamel and Ross Dellinger, we know they've reported, but why do we assume that that is the only information that the big 10 has? The big 10 may have receipts. We don't know the Michigan standard defense. And this is not a me clapping back at rich.

Desmond Howard was all over this morning and get up pounding the table angrily from Athens. They don't have anything. We don't know what that like. We don't know what they have kids. The prosecution has not presented its case in court. Maybe they've got a lot. Maybe they've got nothing. We don't know.

I do know this. I have about two minutes and Jeff in Detroit has been holding patiently on the rich eyes and show. Hi, Jeff. What's going on? Listen, I'm gonna tell you like this. I'm real particular about this show. I love this show and you have been doing an excellent job, my brother. Thank you, Jess.

It's blended so well. And the guys are just, you know, almost like just listening in to a conversation. You know, you guys were talking about you of them. And I guess my question is, if it was Rutgers, what would we be talking about? You know what I'm saying? I'm like, TJ, what is there? It's really nothing to it. I think because if you have them, because it's the way that that coach Harbaugh is, you know, he runs people the wrong way and we're winning.

But, you know, and they try to say, well, it's because of the science done. Do has been winning everywhere. He's been going love the way that you guys did rich. All you had him turn to read and scratch in his head on what's more likely Chris, you did your thing, brother. I have a question though for you.

And yes, sir, Jeff, I got exactly 45 seconds. Go. Okay. Okay.

Real quick. What happens with the, with the interim coach? What does he have to do to keep the gig? Because you got a couple of coaches on books already for money.

What do you do with that guy? Hold on. Which interim coach?

The Raiders. Yep. Oh, okay. Thank you. Thank you for the call, Jeff. I think a lot depends on what Antonio Pierce does to win by.

Can he win? What do they do? How do they play one games? Great. Awesome. Good for you. Seriously.

Everyone who bleeds silver and black, although that would be uncomfortable, you deserve that one. You got to keep doing it. But then again, rich, besides you kept doing it, took them to the playoffs. Didn't keep the job right.

Should have likely kept the job at least for one year. So I don't know. I don't know.

I do know this Tom Pella. Sarah was coming up next on the rich eyes and show man. Rich was fired up.

Wasn't he? I didn't want to jump in. Let you guys just tear each other apart there.

I know how to tweet you and you went at it. And I knew as soon as I rolled the grenade out there, what do you think they should do? That we'd get a response. But the big 10 is in a really tough position because they probably do have a lot of evidence and they probably do. And the other schools are furious, furious. There is, if you believe the reporting and Pete Thamel and Bruce Feldman and they're the best, I don't want to say mob mentality, but the rest of the conference is seemingly pushing the leadership of the conference. You've got to do something, but is it Michigan your best chance to win the whole thing and get into the playoff or Ohio state one of the two get into the playoff?

Maybe they both get in and bring all this cash to all these coaches and a DS that are really angry. I don't know. Do you kill the golden goose? What do you do? What do you do? Worst case scenario on the field for the big 10 Penn state beats Michigan this week, Michigan beats Ohio state. They all have one loss. Then what do you do? Here's what I think.

I think the big 10 really hopes Ohio state beats Michigan. For decades, Rolling Stone has set the bar for entertainment publications today, Rolling Stone music now takes over in podcast form. We have Michael Azerrad who is Nirvana's very first biographer. I'm not sure how many people realize how many of the best songs on in utero were written way beforehand. To be fair to Kurt, he was also a new father. There was a lot of stuff distracting him. It wasn't just drugs, although that was certainly a major factor. Rolling Stone music now wherever you listen.