REShow: Michelle Beadle - Hour 1

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Learn more at Discover.com slash credit card. Limitations apply. This is the Rich Eisen Show. With guest host, Andrew Siciliano. You know, one last thing on Josh Dobbs. Dobbs back to pass on third down. Fires to the end zone. Touchdown! Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. He is basically making his career as the, well, man, we're out of options. We need your quarterback. Today's guest, co-host of FanDuel TV's Run It Back, Michelle Beadle, Pro Football Hall of Famer Charles Woodson, NFL Network analyst Brian Baldinger.

And now sitting in for Rich, it's Andrew Siciliano. It's all about positivity today. Good morning.

Happy Tuesday to you and yours. You know, I love you guys and I truly do mean this. And by you guys, I mean all of the people here at the Rich Eisen Show, including Rich, who's in Germany, who joins us later. But specifically at this moment, talking about the people in this room.

We'll go around the dial. Chris Brockman. Andrew. Jason, the Raider fan, moonlighting behind that board. I just found out he's a man of many hats and businesses. Good morning to you both.

And TJ as well. Hello to you. Hope the head's feeling better. The reason I love you guys is because the conversation off the air and the laughs and the good feeling and the back slapping can't be repeated on air. Oh, no, no, no, no. Some of it could be repeated. We choose not to repeat it, TJ, but that's not the point. And we're breaking cardinal rule 101 for any show, which is kind of excluding the viewer and listener from the jokes that we have when they're not here. But I just want to say I love you guys because you bring that same level of positivity and enthusiasm onto the air that you you let permeate through your life off the air. We just spend the time pre-show yelling at each other.

I say we've been on once. It's about eight o'clock this morning. I woke in a little late this morning, got some contractors at the place and I was like, Oh, wow, what time is it?

And I'm flying in here. And R.J. brought cookies. Oh, I didn't do Trisha's breakfast. I just said, yeah, then you guys were just sitting here talking TV shows and plastic surgery and fake Instagram followers and I mean, Bill Burr comedy, which is always totally work safe and appropriate to live feed and donkeys, which was work safe.

It was work safe. Literally not. It just happened on the TV last night. There were donkeys on the TV last night. Anyway, thank you for being here, Andrew. This is the Rich Eisen Show.

My name is Andrew Siciliano. Coming up shortly, Michelle Beadle. Yeah, one of my favorite people.

Haven't spoken to Beadle in a while. She's got a new podcast. She will join us. Rich will join us. As mentioned, I think he's in Berlin. His Instagram story.

Normally I get all over Rich because he's just posting food pics and nobody cares. He is literally hitting all the touristy spots in Berlin today. It looks amazing.

Let me see museums, hidden churches. I'm actually giving rich two thumbs up on his Berlin stories this morning. It looks like a great time. He is wearing. It looks like he thinks that he's cold. He's wearing a winter hat. I checked the weather. It's 55 degrees in Berlin. Rich, no winter hat.

What are you doing? Yeah, but he doesn't have anything on the top to keep his head warm. You're right. Well, and the scarf. He's really like the snow.

The snowpocalypse is coming. Yeah. Unnecessary, but I am encouraged. He's having a great time. Two things.

I'm encouraged as well. It's an awesome town. Like I said, I've been to Berlin once. Was there for three days. It is a great town with so much history and culture. We'll get to the football in a second.

I promise. It's a lot of dark history. It was a somewhat depressing historical visit, but you need to check all those boxes and see all those things. It's a cool town. Yeah.

Brandenburg gate. Yeah. All the big stuff.

Retweeting photos of you. Yeah. But it does look like, it does look like he's dressed for the snowpocalypse. But I will say very stylish.

The hat, the scarf. I like it. Like I said yesterday, I thought they had a great looking booth. Jason and Orlovski.

No one wore the coat and tie. They all kind of had that like strolling in Central Park or kind of look. I liked it. I recall.

And if you ever saw the movie Euro trip, you know, Mika lives in Berlin, but that's a story for us. Well, Scottie doesn't know. Rich joining us next hour. Charles Woodson, the Hall of Famer and winemaker will join us coming up in the second or the third hour. And then friend of the program, America's most interesting former offensive lineman, Brian Baldinger will join us.

Here's the thing about Baldy. Right. People, people often give me grief and they often say, Hey, that's awesome about my off season travel. I do some out of the way things. I tried to.

I try to see the world as much as I can. There is no place that I could think of going where Baldy has not already gone. Yeah.

I could say to Brian Baldinger, Hey, Baldy, I was thinking of thinking of checking out the dark side of the moon this summer, you know, maybe hop on one of those space X things, check out the dark side of the moon. Oh yeah. I was there, dude. There's this awesome hole in the wall, barbecue spot. You got to go to, you got to ask for Irene. He's been everywhere.

That's true. Like Baldy. I was in the middle of the South. There's this Island of the middle of the South Pacific. I read about, read about this little atoll and we're going to go there and we're going to go spear fishing is our owner. So the fish you need to kill there, it's you can only rent the spear gun from this one guy.

He's got a shack, right? He's, he's been everywhere. Brian Baldinger will be here. All right. Let's get to the football. And I said, I'm going to be positive.

I don't know that I can to be honest with you. And this isn't like about me and rich and positivity and the jets. It was hard to watch the jets last night and be positive moving forward. Let's let's say hats off to the chargers first. They won despite only 136 yards passing and a passer rating. If that's your thing of 65 from Justin Herbert, but they won and they got to four and four, and they have a huge game with the lions coming up on Sunday here in LA, Jared golf back at SoFi, man, that's a big game. The lions are well rested, but if the chargers D line can do what they did last night, this coming Sunday at one local here, the chargers are looking at five and four, and they are very much in the playoff conversation in the AFC. Again, they won on the road with 136 yards passing and less than 200 yards of offense.

Good job. They won because they sacked Zach Wilson eight times. Khalil Mack had two. Joey Bosa had two and a half. Tully Tully Piloto, the rookie, the second round pick from USC, who could very well be your defensive rookie of the year. He got after it as well, had multiple sacks, his first multiple sack game.

You want a crazy one? This is the first time Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa had sacks in the same game since week one of a year ago, their very first game together. So that idea of that killer pass rush from either side, it hadn't happened really until last night because of a lot of reasons.

Most notably health, but they were healthy. They got after it last night. They got after a bad jets offensive line, one that they shuffled a little bit last night. It put the veteran Aaron Rodgers, former teammate from Green Bay, Billy Turner at right tackle. And it did not go well.

It went quite poorly. Zach Wilson held the ball far too long. There are a couple of plays where you say you can't take a sack there. And he took a sack, including multiple times in the red zone on one drive, consecutive plays with sacks. Another time, knocked out of field goal range. However, you look at the all 22 on some of those sacks, you go, well, where's he supposed to throw the ball?

True. He started off way too hot. And by hot, I mean inaccurate, too much gas on the ball.

Yeah. Air mail, air mail and guys getting guys almost killed the disdain and the disgust in the voice of Troy Aikman. Palpable.

Not exactly being subtle there, Troy. You can also taste it down the stretch after the game was over and they were putting together a garbage yardage drive that had many people, as Brent Musburger would say, our friends in Vegas on the edges of their collective seats. It was a sweat last night, Andrew.

At one point, Troy Aikman says again, like 40 seconds to go, they get into the red zone. Oh, don't look now. Zach's heating up. Don't go anywhere. It ain't over. And again, this is Troy, not me.

It was definitely Troy. I'd rather step back and just ask the question, who are they and where are they? If this is what you're going to get at quarterback, I know what Dan Orlovsky and Daniel Jeremiah have said, and they both banged the table.

I love them. They know more football than me. They both banged the table fairly hard last week that Wilson has been playing pretty well. Last night was not one of those games.

And they fall to four and four. Listen to what Robert Salah said after the game. Was this a step back for Zach, Robert? I don't know if you could say step back. Like I said, it's all encompassing. Obviously, he's going to want some things that he wishes he could have done better.

From protection to just a little bit of everything. It's just one of those bizarre games that just every time we had momentum, like I said, just a self-inflicted wound. Was it his best game?

Obviously not. Was it his worst game? No, I'm not going to say it was even close to his worst game. But I think the entire offense, obviously we all could have been better.

All right. So the context there on that last line, I'm not going to say it was even close to his worst game. You heard what preface did. Was it his best game? No. Was it his worst game? No, I'm not going to say it's even close to his worst game. I tweeted that second part out last night without the preface and the full context. And it kind of went viral for a minute. I think the full context there is important. But if that's not even close to his worst game, then that really is your problem.

It is. And I thought, and let's give her credit, that Jamie Erdal, our friend on Good Morning Football today, made a great point. The three-game winning streak was great for the Jets. It got everyone excited. It got them in the playoff conversation here. However, was it false hope before the trade deadline?

And would they have been better served trying to get a Josh Dobbs, trying to get a Jake Brisket, Jacoby Brissett out of Washington, trying to get a Ryan Tannehill, Jamis Winston. Yeah. You know what? I'm not going to make that noise anymore. Yes.

Jamis Winston has more starting experience and is better than Zach Wilson. Period. Full stop. Absolutely.

Yes, absolutely. I don't know why I'm even considering pushing back on that. There is a lot of pushback on him for some weird reason, but I think people have decided on Jamis and he's not a starter in their eyes and just they're dismissive because, you know, eating W's and some of his other stuff. I think it's unfair to him. I think he's not the immature kid that came into this league. I think he's grown far beyond that.

And I think he does deserve another chance to start. Is he going to take your team to the playoffs? I don't know. Is he better than Zach Wilson? Absolutely.

Yes. Anyway, that said, they won three in a row. They have a great defense.

You know what? Their defense got, got to Justin Herbert five times last night. Their defense forced a couple of fumbles that they just couldn't fall on. Like the ball didn't bounce their way.

Darius Davis, who had the punt return early also muffed one late, but then he fell on it. Like there were all these little breaks that the Jets could have gotten last night that they didn't get. Now let's get to Aaron Rogers because we have said, all of us have said, and with that three game winning streak, we all kind of agreed that if they can just get in the conversation late, maybe, maybe a miracle could happen. Troy Aikman said last night with about two minutes remaining, man, I don't, you know, people talk about Aaron coming back. This team isn't any good with him. Now I'm paraphrasing. He said, yeah, the offense would be better, but this isn't a good team.

He goes, this is a bad team with a great defense. It it's hard to parse that sentence, but I hear what he's saying. I also think it was 60 minutes of football and three and a half hours of disgust that had built up at that point. Yeah.

I get it. It's hard for a hall of fame quarterback to watch what we all saw last night, not even getting into the Schwarzenegger donkey thing. I mean, just the main broadcast of the game.

It's hard, but what's Aaron coming back to now? Does he automatically make them better? Yes. I'll maintain.

And I said it again last night. And then NFL game day final and NFL network after the game of Steve White, get a Dave Grohl throne and just put them out there. Can Billy Turner protect for two and a half, two and a half seconds to have Aaron Rogers throw from a throne?

Hopefully because that's what it would take. I told you yesterday that I saw Aaron over the weekend at Santa Anita here in Southern California at the breeder's cup. We talked for a second. He was walking just fine before the game. He went out there last night and he's throwing footballs. He's taken, you know, three step drops. He's letting it fly. He's chucking at 50 yards. He looked fine. Nobody was chasing him, right? He was not in distress, but he was throwing footballs just fine. And then there was this post-game conversation.

You have to listen carefully here on the field between Aaron Rogers and Derwin James. You hear that? Give me a few weeks.

Play it one more time. Can we? When you're coming back, give me a few weeks. Now, by a few weeks, does he mean a few months? Right?

Like you're telling your significant other, I'll be home in five. It's really 15, right? 30. Right. 30.

Is that what it is? No, no, no. I'm almost there. I'm almost there. No, you're not. I'm almost there. I'm almost there.

No, you're not. I don't know. I don't know. Florio, Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk, throwing out the many people think it wasn't a fully torn Achilles. Maybe we don't have all the information.

Maybe this is realistic. There's Brian Baldinger. Here's the thing about Baldy. So when you have, brief aside here, when you have a sideline pass as a member of the media to go down there on the field before the game, right? You stand on the sidelines, you talk to the people, but generally speaking, you don't just walk out to the logo at midfield. Now, there are exceptions. If you're like the main network broadcast crew, yeah, Joe and Troy, right?

Aaron and Greg Olsen and Burghardt, they could walk out. That's a little bit different. They look at you differently. Technically, you kind of sort of can, but nobody does. Respect it.

Respect their space. I love Baldy. Baldy just walks the hell out there and he'll start slinging footballs and he'll hug everyone like he's the best. I for one, Andrew, would be shocked if Aaron Rodgers misled us in any way about what's going on in his life. I sense sarcasm. I sense dialing my inner Troy Aikman.

Listen, listen. He would be a miracle if he came back, but he's not coming back if there's nothing to come back to, okay? He's not coming back to a six and nine team right around Christmas. Not nice. If there's no shot.

You're just not. And right now, they are the 11 seed. Now, the 11 seed is only one game back in the win column from the seven seed.

Actually, even from the five seed. It's that tightly packed, but the Jets have no margin for error. How many touchdowns do the Jets have offensively? Let's go around the room. Let's pull the audience. They've played eight games. Chris Brockman. How many offensive touchdowns do you think they have?

Ooh, good question. I'm going to say five negative. Jason, I'll go four. Okay.

You guys are going low. TJ, let's say eight and they have a TJ ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Congratulations. Eight touchdowns in eight games. That ain't winning anything, even with a great defense. And here's even a more insane stat. By the way, the Giants have nine. Raheem Mostert has 11.

Even better. The Jets have not had a touchdown drive of longer than one play since the Kansas City game. All three of their touchdowns since the Kansas City game. When was that?

A couple of weeks ago? Have been one play drives. Breece Hall, 72 yards against the Broncos. One play. 50 yard touchdown pass against the Giants. One play. Eight yard touchdown run against the Eagles. One play when they let them score.

Remember? So since week four, the Jets have not had a touchdown drive of longer than one play. Week four was September, but we're sticking with Zach. He's getting better. It is actually playing well out there.

I'm not being sarcastic. If you look at it, he has had some games are like, dude, you're doing exactly what we want. What we want you to do is not turn the ball over. Let Breece Hall eat. Limit the mistakes. Let the defense work. That is our formula. That formula is fine.

It's fine. I mean, look at the Steelers. I'll be honest with you. Kenny Pickett plays well in the fourth quarter only saved for last week. They try to run the ball, limit mistakes every now and then dial up an explosive to George Pickens. I mean, it's not a total similarity, but the Jets run the football, play good defense, dial up the explosive to Garrett Wilson every now and then. You've got a great kicker like the Jets do. I'm sorry, like the Steelers do as well. Like that's what they're doing.

Except last night it failed and it failed miserably. You got to give Aaron a reason to come back. And if you do the math and compare it to Cam Akers right now, Aaron Rodgers, if it's on the exact timeline as Cam Akers, Achilles tear in 21, same doctor did the surgery. He'd be back a week after the Superbowl. So if you need him in January, you know what? You better hurry up.

All right, Michelle Beadle coming up next. Andrew Siciliano sitting in for Rich. Just getting started here on a Tuesday.

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Putting on Airs. The podcast is on YouTube and wherever you listen. I do believe it was the first time that we met. I'm going to bring this up. It was in the city of Houston. That's right. It was the first ever Super Bowl the NFL Network had ever covered, but you and the entire Manning family strolled into the Gatorade suite. And who did you hear singing karaoke in the Gatorade suite that night?

It was a beautiful voice. Would you say like in terms of- It was like an angel bringing us in and there we walk in and we see Rich Eisen karaoke dominating. To basically, by the way, nobody else in the room, right? Yeah, just solo.

You get a little practice. There was me and my buddy. There was nobody else. What song? That's a good question. Sinatra. Sinatra. I forget which one it was.

Okay. Well, I mean, did you have to ask? Seriously, it was me and my buddy. I don't remember. We walked in and yeah, we joined, but we joined right in. You did sing, right? You guys all did get on the mic. I think we got up there.

We can't turn that down. No, I know. It was honestly me. I was obviously like pre-cell phone. I mean, you had cell phone, but pre like, no one had a camera. You didn't worry about anybody filming.

Yeah, so there's no video. Get up and sing. You saw karaoke.

You sing. You don't think twice. It was just the moment. Yeah, the moment.

You didn't have to memorialize it. It was me, my buddy, Doug. And then it was, I think your entire family. Yeah, probably the whole crew. Yeah. Your mom and your dad, you and Peyton and Copper.

And Copper. Yeah, exactly. And what, do you have a go-to karaoke song at all? It's changed over the years, obviously. Has it really? Yeah, you kind of go with the times.

You know, Footloose has always been one, you know, just because you can kind of dance with it. But now, you know, it's tough. It's tough to do karaoke now. You're just kind of worried, you know, people are filming all the time. Then they judge. And, you know, I get judged enough.

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Call or click Grainger.com or just stop by. I feel like I'm the only one in America without a podcast. That's my fault. Everyone has a new podcast, including this really cool one with a friend of the program, Michelle Beadle, launching with Peter Rosenberg. It's on Wondery.

It's called Over the Top. It has been a long time. What's going on, Beadle? Oh, you know, just working like it's the beginning of my career all over again, staying busy. But doesn't that kind of feel cool to launch a new venture? It really does.

I think it's the sort of the exciting beginning to things. And, you know, when you get to work with people that you actually really like, I think that's the best part. It's not really work, if we're being honest. None of this feels like real work. I think I know what real work would feel like, and this ain't it.

Yeah, like talking about Victor Wambunyama isn't actually work. You would have been doing it in your free time, regardless, like over coffee, over a cocktail, whatever. That's what you would be doing. So if somebody wants to put a microphone in front of you, then so be it. We can call it a show.

Yes, I think that that is now considered work. And yeah, I mean, by the way, like, I'm loving how much he's sort of changing mind so early on in this. And granted, it's so, so, so, so early.

But to see sort of hardened veterans of the game and ex players all kind of start coming around, it's quite fascinating to watch this unfold. It is. But at the same time, is there any fear? Not that he can't handle it. And I realize this is the industry and the jobs we have chosen. Like this is what we do. We scream and yell and make outrageous statements.

But when people already want to go, oh, he's got to be better than LeBron. Like, don't you want to just say shut up? Yeah, I, I've always hated that. I think hyperbole and bizarre superlatives are not healthy.

They make me uncomfortable. It's like words like never. And that's why I don't like wedding vows.

I think that wedding vows are so extremely like, no, you know what I mean? It's like forever. And no, we know by math, it's not forever. If it's a good long time. Great.

And that's how I feel about Wendy. If we get a good long career and it's fun, I'm here. I'm here for all of that.

Okay. So then what should we change the standard wedding vow to? Hey, love you love hanging out with you. I hope this thing goes as long as possible and let's have a great time until. So instead of until death do us part.

Oh no. So, so maybe until maybe one day I see your DMS on Instagram, do us part. Until maybe you bore me and I have to move on and then, you know, but we may never get there.

My, my vows would be very rambling, but they would get the message across. Until, until maybe one day, no, I don't care if you go out of town this weekend, do we part. Now you get it. We're talking to Michelle Beadle along with Peter Rosenberg. She has a brand new podcast launching on Wondery.

Love the whole Wondery platform, by the way. This week it is called, did I say over the top? Yes, I did.

I'm making sure I get that out. Let's go back to week number nine. Eagles Cowboys.

We spent a lot of time on this on Monday. The thing that scares me about the Cowboys, not that they lost, they lost to a really good team won. They're going to get again week 14. And maybe if we're lucky in January as well, it's how it's the same story, Michelle. It's that they, they mismanage all the little things that they can't stand to mismanage at the end of the games.

Yeah. For me, the Cowboys, you know, the coverage is always crazy with the Cowboys, right? I mean, we start pre-season, not even we start before preseason with expectations that seem to be always just a bit too high.

And, you know, it starts in the house. It starts with Jerry Jones himself. That being said this particular week, it's crazy to hear everyone speak of this as a good win. I've never heard such positive Kumbaya vibes around a win. Like if you didn't know any better, you'd think the Eagles lost the way some of this has been talked about.

And I get it. I think Dak Prescott, much like most quarterbacks, they get the blame and they get the credit. And in his particular case, there's been a lot of blame. And there's a narrative that follows him around. Unfortunately for him, I think none of that goes away until I'm not even saying you got to win the super bowl, dude.

I'm saying you got to get to the super bowl. I think maybe that is when some of that negative stuff stops, but it's, it's frustrating. And Cowboys fans are, it's one of the loudest, most passionate fan bases. Some would say sometimes delusional. And I think that's sort of where we are.

I, you know, I do a show on Sirius now and my co-host even was just talking so positively. I'm like, hold on, who won the game? I feel like we're giving out moral victories now. And so that's where we are with this Cowboys team. Expectations are high when they fall short. We try to find ways, I guess, to say this one was a good win compared to some of their bad wins, you know, losing to the Cardinals. Like that's not something that you want to look back on, but I don't buy them.

I haven't bought them ever. Even though I grew up in Texas, it's just a team that I feel like lets you down in the end. Next is the nineties. Dak always says the right thing about like, there's, there's no other job. I love Dak, by the way, there's no other job I want. And, and, and this is what I'm built. Like, this is such an honor to have this job.

And why would I ever criticize this job? I would love though, to, to see, to see it peeled back one of these days to have them go like, man, like it is, it is just tough out there. Like, you know, like no matter what I do, we could win by 50, and I'm going to turn on the TV the next day. And there's an entire industry, by the way, we're part of it. An entire industry that has, we joke about the script, the narrative in hand, ready to say this, if we win by 50 or this, if we lose by 50, it's because it drives the beast. I mean, it drives the car dry mix, mix all your metaphors, all you want. Like this pushes the story for the whole league for the whole week. It really does.

And it's, it's crazy because you're right. He does say all the right things. I mean, I, I would not have that kind of grace under that kind of fire, but we don't talk about the other quarterbacks like him, you know, we don't talk about Josh Allen if Josh Allen is struggling. And by the way, that being said, Dak didn't struggle.

I mean, he threw some yards, like he, he did what he was going to do. He just, because he's right, that star carries with it a different, whether it's realistic or not a different set of expectations. And I do think he's wired for it. I don't think that everybody would be wired for that.

I would love to give him a truth serum one day, maybe when he's done, maybe some more truths would have come out, but yeah, there gotta be days where he's with just friends or family where he tells the truth and he's just, it's must be frustrating. Yeah. For all the guys that say, I'm off social media. I don't watch TV.

If I were him, I would, I would mean that. Like I actually, I can't, and I couldn't be the one last thing here in the NFL. Do you think what we saw from Antonio Pierce and the Raiders and all that on Sunday, do you think that's sustainable? I don't think so.

Well, I say, I don't think so. You know, there are just some organizations that seem to be dysfunctional and there's that new coach first game, you know, Jeff Saturday being recent memory, they have to win it. I think it's an actual competitive law that if you have a coach on the sidelines for the first time, you have to win that game. It does feel however, a little different in the sense that man, all the stories that are coming out after McDaniels has gone, like there's a toxic environment and players seem to have been miserable.

And you see sort of like a Devante Adams face is there's a joy or almost like a pressure lifted. So, you know, I can't pretend to know what it was like in that locker room. I can only go off of the stories that we're being told and the quotes that are out and about now, but it can't be worse. And they made a very big, clear point to make it an interim coaching job. I don't know why they were so set on that. You never know. Again, forever and never.

You shouldn't use those words, but it's definitely better. And so at least they get the rest of this season to play out, not the way it was. Mike, what a dysfunction. Truly. I mean, I've never seen victory cigars week nine when you don't clinch anything against a giant scene that's like lost their quarter. I mean, it's just chaos.

Yeah, they're four and five now, which, hey, you're in the conversation in either conference at four and five, but they were actually smoking the victory cigars and had the owner in the in the locker room hugging it out. Yeah, just nuts. So give me give me in your words, the podcast again, it's called Over the Top, where you guys have the royal rumble. Let's close it with us every single week where you try to determine the biggest story on Earth. Is that what we're doing? Yeah. Biggest, most important story on Earth, obviously. Yeah.

You know, we speak for everyone. And Peter comes from a massive wrestling background and over the top rules, royal rumble rules for that. It's just every 90 seconds, a new story introduces itself. We know the topics. We don't know the order of the topic. So sometimes we might get screwed and end up with the most important topic on Earth being ridiculous. This first week, though, that we came out Flavor Flav singing the anthem one, which is obviously that was the most important story on Earth last week. So how did that happen?

How did anyone in Milwaukee go? Hey, you know what? This is a good idea.

You know, what's better than that is that he says he's had offers from other NBA teams since. So let it let it spread. Let it spread. So, yeah. And it's quick. It's a quick listen. My attention span can't handle more than about 30 minutes at a time. So that's what we shoot for.

And that's what we're going to do. True story. I once ran into Flavor Flav in the Best Buy in Westwood. He was just chilling. Did you say anything? I took a picture. Don't know what the picture is.

It was it was it was like on an old cell phone, like that wasn't on like long before iPhones or even Android. And I have no idea where it is. I'm going to find it one day. But yes, there is a picture somewhere of me and Flavor Flav at a at a Best Buy that's not even there anymore in Westwood. Well, that's a sad story by UCLA.

It would not be the biggest story on earth. However, on over over the top, the new podcast, Michelle Beadle and Peter Rosenberg. It's always great to talk to. It's been too long. Good luck with this, Michelle.

It has. Thank you. True story. I have met all of Public Enemy, actually, other than Professor Griff, who I have no desire to meet whatsoever. But Chuck D and Flavor Flav in random locations in L.A. Flavor. If I can call him Flavor Flav, William Drayton.

TJ at the Best Buy and Carlton Brittenour, the third, also known as Chuck D. Man, you call them the government names. Yeah. At the sushi counter. At the Whole Foods in Sherman Oaks.

Whoa. You ever get grocery store sushi or you ever see people looking at grocery store sushi where they just stand there, right? And they're just staring. Staring like is is is this box is the tuna look slightly better than this one? And they pick them up and they look at it and they put them back there. You don't want to take you don't open it, right? But they just stare.

They look and they look and they stare. How would you buy sushi at the grocery store? Well, I mean, like Whole Foods. Oh, Whole Foods, I guess.

There are Mitsuwa, the Japanese market here in L.A., which is fantastic, has the best sushi in town. Anyway, Chuck D and his his his wife just staring at the sushi, which is I do the same thing. And I'm like, oh, my God, it's Chuck D. Like, I used to have like Fear of a Black Planet posters on my wall as a kid. Like, I, I know every I mowed lawns to my Walkman, every single Public Enemy album, Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos, Rebels Without a Pause. It takes a nation of millions.

It takes a nation of millions. And I'm sitting here going like this is like 20 years ago. This is Chuck D. We're both buying sushi at Whole Foods. And I kind of stuck my hand out and he kind of looked and like he looked at me and then his wife was like. Kind of like nudging me, oh, hey, I'm like, hey, Andrew, I work at Fox right next door here. And, you know, big fan, would love to have you on the show one day kind of thing.

He's like, cool, man. Yeah, I'll do it. Gave me his email.

Wow. You still have it? I used to I was going to my phone recently. I never emailed him because I'm like, that was the most awkward interaction. He clearly had no desire to do my show. He wanted me to leave him alone so he could look at the spicy tuna roll and he gave me his email. Not his phone number. Nothing says I don't want to be on your show more than here's my email.

Phone number. Yeah. Cool.

Cool. It was back in the day before social media, really. Was it was it fight the power at Hotmail? Hotmail.

It was I got a letter from the government at AOL. By the way, you know, I told you guys what I did in English class with the DOC poems. Same thing with Public Enemy, man. Like my English teacher must have thought I was a savant the way I would rip off these songs and turn them in as poems.

Tell him, tell him you should send that poem to Rebel Without a Pause at CompuServe.com buddy. At CS.com. Yep. GeoCities.com. TerraDome at me.com.

TerraDome at me.com. Like my man Chuck D said, what a brother though. Oh boy.

Anyway, yeah, this is only funny if you're in your mid to late 40s. Podcasts on 90s hip hop. That's it. Boom. We just go back and we late 80s, 90s hip hop.

We just dig through the crate. Get Young MC on. Yes. Huge sports fan. Have Del Tufo be the DJ. I'm telling you, it's and with his Instagram following, we're going to get Mike's big in India. So, you know, Russia and Eastern Europe.

Anyway, I digress. Coming up, did you see the donkey last night? The football season is underway and Believe podcasts are talking about it. When he went home and went to sleep, Michael Parsons is terrorizing him.

Believe has podcasts covering all 32 professional teams and many of your favorite college teams too. And to be only producing 15 points a game. That's something that is definitely disheartening. Side light to sideline, end zone to end zone. As a quarterback, I would expect him to be acting like that. Take the accountability. Put that on yourself.

Don't put it on your teammates. Search BLEAV podcasts wherever you listen. So a funny thing happened last night. If you're watching the Manning cast, the second screen feed, if you will, on the deuce, do we still call it the deuce?

I call it the deuce still, but that's just an age thing. Peyton and Eli had the former governor of California on the show, also known as the Terminator. Arnold Schwarzenegger and a donkey showed up.

That's true. Look at the look on Peyton and Eli's faces. They're terrified.

They're confused. The Chargers have the ball from Shrek. All of a sudden a donkey showed up and Schwarzenegger, instead of going like, Oh my God, there's a donkey. No, he's like, Hey, come here.

I'm going to feed you. He starts feeding the donkey. And again, Peyton and Eli goes, Oh my God.

Like, boy, like it made some joke. Is that Peyton? Like whatever he said or like feed it what you would feed Peyton and whatever, something like that. And then they went to break. So I come in here today and said, guys, did you see the donkey?

And then you guys tell me, no, no, wait a minute. He has a donkey that lives in his house. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah. He's got a whole mini farm. Does the donkey do donkey do in the house? I don't know.

I don't think so. I think the donkey knows where it's supposed to go. He has a house trained donkey. Yeah. On the Netflix doc Arnold. It's awesome.

Everyone should check it out. He kind of, there's a scene, you know, where he talks about the donkey and he feeds it. He's outside taking care of pets and stuff.

He's got all kinds of stuff at his house. The donkey's name is Lulu, bro. So I have a cousin in Ohio that has a deer in her house and she has like gone on all the national morning shows, but a crazy donkey in the house in their house. Good God.

Hey, we're back to the radio crowd here. So for the TV crowd here, we just showed the picture or the video of Schwarzenegger on the Manning cast last night with a donkey crashing the show. He has a, a, a housebroken donkey evidently in the house. Does the donkey come up? Like my dog, I don't have a dog anymore.

When I was a kid, like when the dog wanted to go out and needed to go, it would come up and I'm like, you know, hit you with this paw, like, Hey, but I got to go out, open the door. Right. Right. Does the donkey do that? Does it donkey kick you if it's got to go out?

I think Arnold's got one of those kind of like open air situations that rich people have, or you can just kind of open up the door to the backyard. He has like a donkey wall, a donkey wall. Yeah. Yeah. The donkey punches you like, does it like a plate on the wall?

Much almost like a, like a handicap. You know, the big button on the wall, like one of those big blue button. I don't know. Good question.

I think you're asking too many questions. And then the donkey just opens the barn door at the back door. Now he keeps them.

I think he has to actually go open up the barn to let them out. That's a good one. What, what obscure animals did you guys want as pets? Like a kimono dragon or something at the house. I don't want a kimono dragon.

That's cool. Your toes off. I don't think it does much like a giant iguana. No, I like a dog. Caleb Williams went home and cuddled with his dog after the, what would you want to go home and cuddle with my dog?

No, something obscure though. Not like a dog or a cat. True story. I don't know that I would like, what would anyone want?

Like a pig on the strand and Manhattan beach. Like that's cool. I've always wanted, can I make bacon?

I've always wanted a chimp because I figured like a chimp, you could dress it up. You could have them watch football with you, go to the throws. It's poopy. What are we doing? That's true. Monkeys are mean. First of all, monkeys are mean. Yeah. Yeah.

That's a good point. You ever been, I've seen you ever been on a hike or you ever been on like out in a jungle and you come upon monkeys? They're not nice. Well, I was in, I was in those Sarah Costa Rica and literally like where I was staying, monkeys were swinging from vines. Like we were in the jungle baby. I got, I got lost in the middle of the jungle in Cambodia once. True story.

Wow. Like I was not there with the US army. I was not there. This is not the seventies, but I was, my buddy and I were at Angkor Wat.

You've seen like Tomb Raider, Angkor Wat, you know, Cambodia, right? And make a long story short, we hired a driver to take us out to some random like other temple that we wanted to see way out in the jungle. His car broke down as we're way out in the jungle. And so my buddy and I had to hoof it back.

How many ever miles to the jungle? And we came upon some monkeys on the side of the path and they hissed at us. And then they ran alongside us and hissed at us and then like chattering to each other and like pointing to us. And we're like, Oh, well this is how it's going to go out.

That could have been the end. They're like, like, man, Hey, you're ready to fight these monkeys. Like, seriously, the monkey will rip you in two, bro. I mean, they were these little guys, but yeah, they're not nice. Like, Hey, you take your backpack off.

You have a knife in there. Like, are you ready? Like, let's go like type stuff. No, they left us alone. They just ran alongside us for a little bit. Were the monkeys named Cornelius? Was one of them named Cornelius by chance?

No, no, no. They weren't. They were not that big. They were like these little guys, but yeah. But you're a little guy.

Sorry. That was one of the things I was thinking. And then it just kind of came out. That's funny. He's 6'3 on TV.

As I say, I'm 6'3 on TV. Anyway, long story short, we eventually, we eventually found our way out. And then many, many hours later, we eventually made it back to our hotel. Are you okay over there?

We eventually made it back to our hotel in Siem Reap, Cambodia. Could you imagine? Hold on. Network story, Andrew attacked by monkeys.

It could have. We get up to the hotel. There's the guy, our driver. He beat you back? Like, this is like eight hours, 10 hours later, standing in front of the hotel, waiting for payment.

You never paid me to take you all the way out to the jungle and have the carpet. So you had to hike eight hours back. It was, it was, it was, it was not, it was only a couple hours.

And then we eventually, we got back to some other people. Then we hitched a ride and like, but this was many hours later when we made it to the hotel. He's just waiting in the evening. He was just chilling. And how much was he asking for?

I don't know. I think, I think we gave the guy a 20. He's like, let's call it a day. But that's me and his money.

Feller didn't do a drop yesterday and he is making up for it today. The whole thing about NFL networks, Andrew Siciliano attacked by monkeys. Yeah. You think of that headline. That's why I didn't run with the bulls.

I mean, that was one of the reasons I didn't. Yeah. Right. I mean, you see all the drunken British tourists who are falling over themselves. They are so drunk and then they're getting trampled by the bulls who are thoroughly enjoying the moment. Hey, this is what you get.

Right. And all I could think of, I'm going to do it the second day. So I watched the TV coverage back in my room when I'm, when I myself am sobering out and you see like CNN international or the, or the local station. They're telling, you know, here's the story of, of the American who was gored today.

Then they have on the other side of the screen, like mom crying. I can't believe my son did this. And I said, I, there is no way I'm going with the NFL network anchor gored by bull. You weren't Josh Norman, El Setador because he jumped over. I've talked about that with Josh actually off the air over it. Yeah. I've talked about that with Josh, like, dude, what were you doing?

He's on, man. I just like cleared that. You're a better athlete than me. He just rated jumped over it.

I'll set the door and someone got it on video. Holy that's entirely different. What he did. He didn't just run with him down the cobblestone Hill.

He jumped, he got into the arena ring, which is you're allowed to do that. That's nuts. But once you do that, Nope, Nope, Nope. Like you're on their turf. It is now their home game without the field pass.

Okay. And Bobby Wagner can come tackle you and blindside you. And there are no repercussions. He's not getting flagged. He's not getting arrested. That's on you, buddy.

No, fine. I'm not calling Bobby Wagner a bull, but it happened in a game here last year at so far. He wrecked a dude.

And I think that dude did try to sue. That's insane. Yeah. I mean, he ran on the field and that Wagner laid out. Oh, wow. I'm an idiot. I ran on the field.

Maybe I should sue you for reminding me that I'm an idiot for running on the field. All right, coming up, back to serious sports talk. Rich joins us live from Germany.

We'll see his vacation photos. We'll also talk last night's game. No, I made it.

I love Berlin. Like I said, were you guys laughing? No. I mean, look, this has been going on for two hours. We have the giggles today kind of, and you know, it's fun.

It's a positive Tuesday. I'm here for it. I apologize for calling you a little guy. I'm sorry. How long have we known each other?

A long time, like 15 years. Okay. If there's one thing you know about me, there are a lot of things I'm sure.

Please don't say them all in the air. You hate grammar mistakes. Yes. You love hiking.

Yes. If there's one thing you know about me, I'm just kidding. It's that I'm over the fact that I'm short. Like it's fine, man. Like every now and then I'll get like social media vitriol and they're making height jokes.

And I'm like, really need some new material. Yeah. Like it's like, yeah, whatever you want to say, but you're not hurting me with a height joke. I'm bald.

I get it. I'm comfortable. I have been this height since roughly 16 years old. That's over 30 years. So you were tall for a 16 year old.

That was funny. I'm good with it. I am good with it. I was just thinking about the, I don't want to buy new clothes. If I were to grow like, imagine this, your mom has, she didn't let, she tried to keep you safe, carried you in the room. Wouldn't let you go see public enemy all for you to go over and get gored to death by a bull. You don't want to do that to your mom.

My parents do that with my trips all the time. Wait a minute. You're going to be without cell phone for how long in the middle of nowhere? How long I'm like, Oh, I got a little satellite thing.

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