REShow: Daniel Jeremiah - Hour 3

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I mean, deadline is tomorrow and there's so much to talk about. And our friend Daniel Jeremiah at Move the Sticks of the famed Move the Sticks podcast with him and Bucky Brooks joining us here on The Rich Eisen Show, fresh off of calling the Chargers victory over the Bears for the Chargers radio network last night. How are you, D.J.?

I'm doing great, Rich. I just have an image in my mind of Carl Banks putting one of those little desks together that barely gets around each of your thighs when you when you settle into it. Let me tell you something, Daniel. The number of times I've banged my head underneath something that I've just Allen ranks together for my children that they don't use. I've lost track. I lost track. I have I have this is not a knock on IKEA because I'm sure there's lots of fine fine quality furniture that they made. But I have at one point time as a young married person halfway through putting a piece of furniture together, taking a hammer to the whole thing, just thrown it in the trash.

And you're a very mild mannered man. So imagine what a dark place. Let me just jump into it. Daniel Jeremiah, what do you think is going on in the front offices of the Minnesota Vikings right now?

It was official as of about 20 minutes ago of this recording and this conversation that Kirk Cousins has done for the year. What do you think is happening there right now? Well, you know, I think it's it's not only kind of going over what your options are in terms of the players that could be out there on the street. I mean, you're talking about like the Colt McCoy's, you know, the world or the trade options. But then it's also saying, what's the landscape of where we are and then the NFC as a whole? And are we right to try and, you know, get rid of some assets in terms of draft capital to try and salvage this one?

Or are we are we better to just say, hey, let's just get through this year and we look towards the future? Like you got to kind of know where you feel you are. The sad thing, the suck of it is the NFC, you know, the Eagles are there. But outside of that, the Niners have kind of come back to earth a little bit. The Vikings and if they got Justin Jefferson back, I mean, they had a real, real shot of making a run here, man.

So there's a lot they've got to kind of go through. I lobbed out the Trey Lance thing, which people on social media immediately freaked out over. Well, don't be don't dress. Don't mess with the Trey Lance, you know, folks, man. I don't know what it is with him. And he's a he's an outstanding young man with a huge upside from Minnesota.

I don't. And also from the Shanahan system, which Kevin O'Connell is, you know, not too far away from. It does make sense because he's you can't imagine it's much more expensive. I mean, Dallas gave up a fifth for him. You could tell Dallas, let's improve that by a couple of rounds. You know, now you're not sitting on that pick on Saturday.

You can actually use it on Friday night in Detroit next year. I mean, that makes sense to me. Daniel makes sense. I mean, it's like, you know, back in the day when everybody was just flipping houses, they're just flipping quarterbacks.

You just you sit on them for a couple of months and you flip them and you end up making a nice little profit there. If you're the Dallas Cowboys and the way DAX plan and what they look like, he's he's not going anywhere. So that's a way to kind of, you know, you've just unloaded an asset and up your draft pick. So for the reasons you mentioned, I think if you're going to make a trade in season for a quarterback outside the building to come in and play for you, he has to at least have been in scheme adjacent.

You know, he has to have some familiarity with what you do. And that is a very close line between the McVeigh line and the Shanahan line where Kevin O'Connell came from. So that's why I kind of lobbed out that scenario with Trey Lance. And personally, you know, you know, you mentioned what a good kid he is. I'd like to see him get a chance to play. We don't know on him that nobody knows on Trey Lance.

I think it'd be fun to watch him go back to his hometown and get shot. So what do you think now that I've asked you is going on there? What do you think they should do? I mean, and tell me about the kid from BYU Pukanaku, his quarterback, who actually is in the building.

What do you tell? Tell me about Jaron Hall and this one answer about what you think they should do. Yeah, good athlete. He's a good athlete, you know, and some similarities there to Trey from that standpoint, because he can run the ball.

But, you know, just a little bit inconsistent with touch, just a little bit up and down. He's got he's again, he's he's strong, he's sturdy. He can drive the football really, really well. He's a good athlete at, you know, the senior bowl for him. I was hoping he was going to kind of just explode on the scene that really take off.

It wasn't a great week for him there. But, you know, he's got some there's some intrigue there with what he can do. And I know John Beck, you know, former BYU quarterback who trained with Jaron, who trained with Trey, trained with a zillion of these quarterbacks.

But he is someone who spoke very high, highly of Jaron. And I'm a big fan of John. So I think you got something to work with there.

Well, so what do you think then they should do in Minnesota? I would I would make the call on Trey Lance. That's me. I think that's the most intriguing upside to kind of use one of your words there. And I think why not? Let's take a look. Let's see what we've got. I think he's the one that could be potentially available that could hit the biggest, if that makes sense. Daniel, Jeremiah, when we left the set in Kansas City after that draft back in April, if I had told you, sir, that Will Levis and Tyson Bajant would be the only rookie quarterbacks to win their first career starts by week eight and Bryce Young and Will Levis would have their first career wins on the same day, you would have told me what?

Daniel, Jeremiah. Probably had too much barbecue. What probably be my reaction, which we did.

What a great meal. That's true. So both things can be true. Both things can be true. OK.

Yes. But you know what? Again, how many times have we seen this story, Rich? How many times have we seen the guy in the in the green room waiting in those painful shots of him?

And you do a great job of articulating it. This is not the end of the story, man. This is just the beginning. And now he got to a organization with a great head coach that has a track record of success. And then he goes in the second round. He's going to you know, if this thing goes well for him, better to be an early second round pick than a late first round pick when it comes to the contract stuff like what a great what a great start for Will Levis.

And I'm glad that, you know, he's getting the opportunity. Let him go now. Just let him play the rest of the year and let's let's see what you got. So then do the Titans flip Tannehill?

Maybe they call Minnesota. Should Minnesota call for Tannehill too? D.J., what do you think?

Well, I mean, you definitely you can definitely go for that. I just don't know. Tannehill, the the feeling and talking to a lot of people around the league, not just my opinion, is that that, you know, he's slipped pretty considerably here. So I don't know how much, you know, how much how much how much intrigue or or excitement would be out there for him. So including in Minnesota, despite what's going on is what you're saying, essentially.

I wouldn't dismiss it all options on the table, but that just seems to be kind of the feedback that I've gotten. And then cycling back to the rookie quarterbacks, your assessment of Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud playing against each other and just everything writ large through the season. Well, I'm encouraged by Bryce from the standpoint that he's getting better. He's getting better every week on a team that doesn't really have a whole heck of a lot around him.

I mean, thank goodness for Adam Phelan. He has been kind of his go to there, but they need better players up front. They need more of a run game.

They need, you know, bigger, better receiver quality. And he's fought through it. And Rich, you don't know with a guy like that. He played it modern day out here where you know what that you know, the talent they have there.

He goes to Alabama. You know, the talent they have there. You can believe in Bryce Young, but this is the first time in his life he's playing with inferior players.

And that's why the winds haven't been there. But you're seeing him, you know, tough it out, go through this adversity. He's getting better. He's still getting hit a ton.

But I'm encouraged by that. C.J. Stroud just game on the scene.

He you know, he was rocking and rolling right away. This game was tough. There really wasn't much fireworks in terms of either offense. So this wouldn't be the game that you would point to is C.J. Stroud's best. But I've seen plenty from him to know that they've got their guy there in Houston.

Daniel Jeremiah here on the Rich Eisen Show. OK, you saw the Chargers destroy the Bears last night. What's your takeaway here? Things are now fixed or this is just an inferior opponent that the Chargers should have beaten. What's your two cents on the team that you see more than than than all Daniel?

I would say two things encouraged for the Chargers. And that Bears team is terrible. They are bad, bad like they are 10 players away from being 10 players away. They don't have talent. I mean, they've got D.J. Moore and and you know, they've got a couple of good linebackers, but their offensive line, defensive line, not good. I mean, they just they aren't very good.

So I'm not going to overreact to it from the Chargers side of things. But they protected better. Herbert was dialed in. He kind of has made a change, doesn't have that glove on that finger. So he looked a little more comfortable there. Austin Eckler finally starting to get healthy, get him involved in the passing game was encouraging, but kind of waiting for Derwin James start making some plays. He has interception Bosa, who had a toe injury.

He looks like he's getting a little bit of his burst back. There's players there, Rich. I mean, you know, I mean, the Chargers have got players and the schedule and it's going to be a big one on Monday night coming up against your Jets, but they could get that one. They'd be at four and four and then you're right back in it. And, you know, again, it's it's all in front of them. Their season's not over. It's not the start that they wanted.

But I'm not going to I'm not going to say, oh, problem solved. They're they're fixed because of the quality of the opponent they just played. And again, against the Jets, that is a big. Game for AFC playoff positioning halfway through the season here, because, man, I would have signed for four and three, even with Rogers being healthy because of how difficult a gauntlet the first six games of the Jets schedule was and wound up being. And they went up three and three in that in that six game stretch. And then thank goodness there's no pictures in the standings because that was as ugly as it gets yesterday. So what is your assessment of Zach Wilson and how sometimes he's just still doesn't get it like taking a sack on a fourth down on a on a do or die that it did appear to be they didn't die in that fourth quarter, fourth down sack.

They still want it. But what's your two cents of the assessment of him? Well, I'm glad I'm glad you asked me, because this is a funny morning that I had. You know, when you're doing games, you're doing charger games. I'm doing that night game. I don't get a chance to see the games on television as much. So I get to see the narrative before I see the tape. And so I see the narrative. And Zach Wilson is the worst quarterback that's ever walked the face of the earth. And so then I watched the tape this morning and I rarely do this.

There's enough guys doing it. But I actually did like a five minute video kind of breaking down what I saw in the game and how I thought this was not not. I thought not only was not bad from Zach Wilson, I thought it was pretty courageous and did some good things. And then everybody starts replying to me like, oh, you and Orlovski, blah, blah, blah, blah.

So I mean, like I call Orlovski. I'm like, Dan, did you do something on Zach Wilson this morning? He's like, yeah, dude, the tape wasn't bad. I'm like, oh, my gosh, I just did the same thing. Like it was to the point where I felt compelled. I needed to try and defend the kid. But when I watched it, Rich, as you know, you watched the game. You're playing in a driving monsoon.

Let's start there. You lose your starting two centers. You're playing with your third center in this game.

Yeah. There's no obviously no Dwayne Brown, no Veritucker, no Tippmann. Now you're down McGovern.

Now you're down Schweitzer. You've got one wide receiver who's a stud and Garrett Wilson. You cannot run the ball like the Giants could actually run ball. They couldn't throw it like that. Negative nine passing yards. But Zach Wilson goes out there, throws for 240.

There's probably four drops in that game that would have taken the total. There's the pass interference would have added on to that. He got pressured 25 times. Most of it from Dexter Lawrence, who had 350 pounds, is going up against the guy who was on your practice squad as a guard who's snapping you the ball. And he hung in there.

He hung in there. And for all the the talk over the last few years has been, man, our defense is so great if he just doesn't screw it up, just don't turn it over. He's got one pick in the last five games. They played in a monsoon and he rips two throws at the end. You talk about the terrible sack he took.

That was terrible to play before that third and 10. He hits Lazard for a conversion. He drops it.

So, I mean, it was just kind of all these different things. And even even the last play of the game, Rich, the last play of the game, the narrative was, oh, my gosh, Zach Wilson got bailed out. He's got a guy wide open. He under throws it and you get the pass interference penalty and they kick the game winner.

You watched I posted the play. He got stroked. He got hit right in the teeth. He can't even follow through. But he hung in there and got the ball out there and gave him a chance to win the game.

So I don't know. I think in this and me and Orlovsky are on the same page on this. You get fired up, but we're not putting him in the Hall of Fame.

We're not even saying he was the right pick or should have been the pick. At number two, if you're watching him and you can't agree that Zach Wilson has gotten better than I can't, I can't help you. OK, look at you, Daniel, Jeremiah, caping for Zach Wilson, by the way. And by the way, everybody goes, that's because you're boys with Joe Douglas. I'm like, Joe hasn't called me in two months. I'm pissed at Joe.

So this has nothing to do with that. All right, Daniel, Jeremiah here on the Rich Eisen Show in the few minutes we have left. What's your assessment of Brock Purdy suddenly having issues turning the football over? That's been quite the old Henry like plot twist to the 2023 season over the last three weeks.

What's your what's your view of him, Daniel? I was talking to a GM yesterday. He brought up a great point and he said, you know, you remember the the match job, Kubiak teams that was obviously Kubiak played for Mike Shanahan. It's the same same offense. They were they were getting a lead early. They jump on you, they get leads. And then it was a nightmare to play against them because everything looks the same run and pass. And then they hit you with that play action and then they get after you. This 49ers team, as great as they are, and they're missing a couple key pieces, obviously, with Trent Williams and with Debo.

Right. There's still a play from a head type of a team. And they mostly do play from a head because their defense is suffocating normally and then they can they can get on you when they're behind, which they've been in these games. Rich, those play actions don't get honored. You don't uncover guys wide open down the field.

And now it becomes tighter windows. It becomes more of your skill set as a thrower comes into it in terms of being able to power the ball in. That's not who Matt Schaub was. That's not who Brock Purdy is. So that's the one concern with him or this team now. He's wired the right way.

He competed his butt off. I think most games they're going to play with the lead. They're not going to be in this situation very often. Playing Joe Burrow coming off of a buy and dialed in is not ideal. But but that's that's kind of the whole picture there.

OK, so where is that? Where are the turnovers coming from? Like what's what are you seeing? I think he's trying. He's just forcing, you know, he's trying to make too too big a plays instead of just, you know, hey, sometimes you can live for kicks. Sometimes you can check the ball down and trying to be too fine. And maybe being a little overconfident and and his arm there.

So, OK, I'm not going to get totally carried away. The Bengals to me were the bigger story than Purdy. The bigger story was if you're in the AFC and you saw that version of Joe Burrow, it was, oh, that's not good, right?

I mean, again, and I know we've got dolphins and chiefs on NFL Network from Germany in six days from now. Huge Jacksonville's playing terrifically. And so are the Ravens.

They're all six and two. But that Burrow team, that was it right there. That that's the one that was threatening, you know, championships over the last couple of years. Yeah, he is. I made this case to Bucky this morning, which was like the dolphins are high flying, you know, like that is an aerial circus.

What they can do, it is fun to watch. But I don't know if a team when Burrow's healthy gives you more to worry about because Burrow, he has four conversions with his legs in that game. You know, to it, that's not he's kind of a very reluctant runner for obvious reasons.

That's not who he is. Burrow adds that to it. They move the pocket with him. Miami's got the two stud receivers. Well, since that he's got three, so they can hit you with that. Then they get you with the screen game with Joe Mixon. They can go empty it out. I mean, they can they give you a lot to worry about. And that is a very talented defense, arguably the most talented defense in the NFL.

And it was a hot knife through butter with Joe Burrow against those Niners. Last one for you, D.J., in my position, I, you know, like to ask questions. I think I know the answer to.

I have no idea what the answer is to this one. And and and I need you to be unvarnished and truthful with me in a very sore subject for me. This is fact, D.J., talking to scouts, talking to all the people that you talk to in pro and college football. What is the general sense of what's going on with the university of Michigan Wolverines and everything there? What are you hearing? What's the sense?

What are people saying? D.J., two different conversations. OK, as you would, I'm sure not be surprised.

Nobody in the NFL cares. Really? Come on. Like, well, because they've been, you know, I've worked with teams and it's just a different thing.

You're allowed to go scout opponents in the NFL. Right. You've got to get all you're trying to get everything you can. Obviously, they have the headset communication, which to me is the takeaway from this whole thing. What are we doing? Just put the headsets in and let's be done with this whole thing.

And then, you know, we would listen to TV, you'd listen to TV copy to see if I can hear the audibles from the quarterback and what can we get from that? Like, that's kind of always been a part of the NFL game. So they don't I mean, you know, look, it's not it's against the rules. One hundred percent shouldn't have done it. But the NFL community just kind of shrugs their shoulders. Whereas the college community is, you know, I mean, this is it's unnecessary, you know, more than anything else.

It's it's excessive and it's unnecessary and more just dumb. You know, the the you know, whether or not how connected this guy was. Stallions, by the way, it's that's an interesting choice. I know how hard it is to get into the Naval Academy with kids who are college age. And I know, you know, how sought after they are for employment after they get done.

That's I know one thing. If I had that education in my back pocket, I would not be traveling to a college football games with my iPhone and video on them. That's just well, but apparently I hear you.

But apparently he was hiring others to do that, you know, and then Venmo wing of them, you know, and that subbing it out, I guess is what it seemed like to me. But so so you're saying the NFL is like shrugging because, you know, they're used to that sort of scouting. And if it's against the rules, whatever.

But college football, there are people what pissed up in arms or just think it's. Yeah, I just what does it mean? Like then let me ask you this. What does it mean?

What like what do you think Michigan was, in fact, gaining from it? If you don't mind me asking, that's why. That's why.

And I'm not pandering here, obviously. Sure. I just I've watched them play and I watched them physically beat the snot out of everybody up front. Right. And I just don't think that there's some piece of information.

That's the reason why Aiden Hutchinson just put the Ohio State tackle on his backside, like I don't see the connection there. So that's why I'm not there's people that are obsessed with it. Rich, like every article, every new piece of information.

This sounds bad. I don't care. I just don't. They are they have a bunch of NFL players. They're big, they're strong, they're physical and they beat people up. And this was just a dumb this is a dumb thing.

They got caught up in, is my opinion. No, and I that's why I did not know and I value your opinion. I did not know what your answer is going to be. And for anybody who thinks that you might be pandering. My gosh, I don't know if I have had a top five people in my life that love to just stick it to me when it comes to the Michigan Wolverines. You're in the top five, DJ. You're in the top five, Mr. Appalachian State, you know, so, you know, you're that's that's that's that's encouraging because I figured Breer has three of those spots locked up. Yes, he does. He's in the Hall of Fame already, you know, prior to his retirement.

He's in the Hall of Fame. DJ, thanks for the time. Greatly appreciate the best. Thanks, buddy. Move the sticks.

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If you please, we can kill it. All right. That's number one.

Here's number two. OK. Get to the chopper! I can't hear them at all. OK. You can't hear them. You cannot hear them. Yes. You can't hear them.

So what I'm going to do, I'm going to, I'm doing this blindfolded. Wait a minute. The sound, wait a minute. Did Bill Walsh not have the volume up?

Did the Bill Walsh of sound engineers not have the volume up for the second? Oh, my God. We can kill it.

This is not Bode well. Can you go? Oh, there's a method to his madness. Do you want to try one more time now? OK, go ahead, go ahead. OK, here we go. We can kill it.

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All right. Get to the chopper. It's cut because it's only an incidental line. And the only reason we remember it is because he's Austrian. If anybody else said, get to the choppers, it wouldn't have been a line. It wouldn't have been a line.

It's only because he's Austrian. Cut, cut. It's superfluous. We're going to bench your one ugly effort. So what you're going to do is you're going to start. If it bleeds, we can kill it. Because it's a succinct line, and it's done in a very naturalistic way.

If it bleeds, we can kill it. Very well done. Now, for everybody else who comes in here on the Rich Eisen Show, we're going to show them this start, bench, cut. Because you have raised the bar, Keegan.

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What's up? Hey, TJ, I just got a message for you. You better let Dad know that we got a spoonful of whoop-ass coming from Washington to visit you at the end of November. If he's not careful, he's going to be on the turf like Danny Dime searching for something. Whoa. Darlin, coming out of the smoke like Ray Lewis on a Sunday.

Wow. I thought this was going to be a pleasant call. By the way, a spoonful of whoop-ass was the worst Mary Poppins song ever, I think.

I think Disney rejected that as an original title. They just decided it was OK. What do you got on your mind, Darlin? What's going on? Well, I just wanted to say that we've been listening to all the talk about the Niners and their defense and what they are. But if you think about it, nobody's really looked back. But since game four, we played against the Giants. And after halftime, they never saw the end zone. Our defense kept them out of the end zone.

Then we played games with Burrow next. He didn't see the end zone. They got a kick and field goal in the fourth quarter.

Then you go to your next game with the Cardinals. They never saw the end zone after the half, never saw it. And then you get to the Browns. And we get to them, and they did not see the end zone. So in the third quarter, they got a couple kicks. But nobody had a touchdown. Our defense has pretty much shut everybody down. The four teams we've played since the game four have only scored 50 points.

So that's an average of, what, 12 points a game? And so for our defense being so young, I think they're really doing well. And people are just overlooking them.

There's no doubt. It's not just them. It's not just them, Darlin. It's the entire Seahawks period for various reasons. And let me just jump into that. And thank you for the call, Darlin.

If you don't mind, I will just have this minute because I want to get to what Devante Adams had to say before tonight's Monday Night Football game to me and us as a show. I know exactly why people are overlooking the Seattle Seahawks. Exactly why. First of all, proximity. It's always the case.

It's always the case. The outpost of the Pacific Northwest. Just ask any Trailblazer fan, any Washington Husky fan, any Oregon Duck fan, any Oregon State Beaver fan.

Just keep going. Now, Seattle Mariners. It would be nice if one of them won a championship like the Seahawks were able to do. But then we paid attention to them for the Legion of Boom and because of Russell Wilson, along with Pete Carroll and Marshawn Lynch.

Who does this team have? Let's take a look at the other teams that we're paying attention to in the NFL. 49ers having been to the Super Bowl more recently and they have a ton of fantasy football players.

And again, that's a metric that people pay attention to because that's the casual fan. And Brock Purdy is kind of an outlier to that. Then you got Jalen Hurts and the Eagles, Dak Prescott and the Cowboys. You've got Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. You've got Josh Allen and the Bills. You've got Tuatunga Vailoa and the Dolphins. You've got Lamar Jackson and the Ravens and even Trevor Lawrence. And when I say even him, he's a young pup. But Trevor Lawrence has the juice. The Seahawks have Geno Smith, who won a comeback player of the year award fully healthy.

He basically came back from anonymity. You could say mediocrity if you want to be mean about it. I say lack of opportunity.

That's it. People don't believe that this guy's a Super Bowl quarterback. They don't believe it.

They don't. And maybe DK Metcalf's on your team. Maybe Kenny Walker, Kenneth Walker's on your team. Maybe Tyler Lockett's on your team. But he's throwing touchdown passes to Jake Bobo.

Up there in the Pacific Northwest. Hey, this is why. I'm telling you, I'm shooting you straight. But guess who's five at two? Guess who doesn't care about all that stuff? Guess who probably spins that up and throws it to the people he always tells to compete about? Pete Carroll. What was the line about Pete Carroll from Jim Brockmire again?

What was that again? He's the world's oldest teenager, America's oldest teenager. America's oldest teenager. Because Dick Clark is no longer with us.

Because Dick Clark is no longer with us. That's it. That's exactly why you're overlooking the Seattle Seahawks. Let them keep winning. Next up for them, this is a great week nine game. Seattle at Baltimore.

Let's go. Whoa, and the Seahawks just made a trade. What do they got? What do they do?

They're acquiring Leonard Williams from the Giants. That's it. This is what John Schneider does. This is what he does. He keeps feeding the system that he knows Pete Carroll runs and what Pete Carroll needs.

This is not going to be one of the sexiest ones. I bet you more people will pay attention to Leonard Fournette signing with the Bills practice squad today than this trade. This trade is significant because this is what Seattle does. The defense that you just heard Darlin say doesn't get attention.

This is what they do. Second round pick in 2024 and a fifth round pick in 25. Not messing around. Right up the middle.

Go and get Brock Purdy when you get him in your house. Go and beat this team that you're now in front of through eight weeks. Love it. They are smart. They know what their system is. They know who they are, and Schneider knows how to feed it.

And Pete Carroll knows how to execute it. Well done. I like it. Love being on the air with breaking news. Tonight Vegas at Detroit. Westwood One Radio. I will be at the microphone in the Monday Night Football Studio booth.

I will be there. We already chatted with Jared Goff, which is what the Scottish call golf without the O. Last week, over the weekend, as soon as I was done, I zoomed with Devante Adams. What a stud. This guy has nothing but class and nothing but greatness and nothing but what appears to be to me something simmering underneath of being unhappy in Vegas. I asked him point blank if he's happy being a Raider. He said, I'll tell you, this is how he started his answer and then said that he was and did not regret his decision, because when he makes decisions, he's all in and he loves wearing the uniform. He loves being around the guys. He loves practicing with the guys.

What he doesn't love is the losing and the inconsistency of not winning, which is another way of saying losing. So then at the end of the conversation. I asked him straight up if he thinks tonight with the trade deadline being tomorrow is his last game as a Raider.

One of the many reasons why I love talking to you is you're always so straightforward and you're a pro's pro. So I ask you this just straight up. Do you think is it possible that Monday night is your last game as a Raider because of the conversations that are had about the team and your happiness there, even though you just cleared up that you're happy being a Raider?

Do you think that's at all possible for this Monday night game? Devon, I'm focused solely on being a Raider. And I'm not involved. I'm not looking for a new home.

And I don't control what anybody decides to do, but that's not my focus at all. I've been locked in on trying to have a big game in Detroit. Last time I played Detroit, I set the Packers all time single season receiving record. So hopefully we can go out there and set some other type of record. That's really all I'm really focused on. Because I guess you could understand why people are wondering, right? I mean, because I can certainly understand. I mean, the thing is, I haven't put anything out there about wanting to get traded.

And I'm not going to do that. And based off certain quotes and people speculating whether or not I should be getting involved more, that's what's led to this. It's not been any negative attention from Devante Adams or any comments that I've made to try to stir up the pot. I can be cryptic sometimes on Twitter, but I haven't even posted anything probably like a year on there. So I've been staying away from there.

Usually it's off seasons when things are dialed down. I try to spice some stuff up and have fun with people every so often. But for me, it's been just focused on what I can do here. And like I said, I'm happy being a Raider.

I just want to continue to try to maximize this thing to just make it all worth it. Yeah, I did see you did respond, though. You did retweet a writer that covers your team.

Oh, yeah, you know, recently, because that was my first that was my first input on Twitter in a really long time. So you felt the need to do that, though, right? I mean, because I did.

I did. And I don't. And the thing is with Devante Adams and while I feel like I've continued to have success at a pretty consistent rate for years now is that when I was a young player, I used to let what people thought and how they felt about things, whether it's me dropping a ball or something I said in the media or whatever, I used to let that factor into the way I went about my business or, you know, it would it would factor in whether or not I was, you know, I would be, you know, have anxiety because people receive something wrong. I'm pretty good at articulating my message. So as long as I don't misspeak, I feel good with that.

So sometimes it's frustrating that I would even have to do that. But, you know, you want people to understand, like when you're going through when it's all good stuff and it's something like that, it's like, you know, seriously, I don't care. I'm not going to try to clean this up, but I don't want people think I'm in here trying to cause drama so, you know, when I make a statement about my benchmark being greatness and not just wins and losses, I feel like it's important for people to understand where that comes from. Because when you see ESPN, Instagram has a picture of me with a half of what I said or a little strip of what the actual quote was, you know, you run into issues because now people are like, you know, well, you know, he's talking about his benchmark is greatness.

So if he plays great, is he OK with losing that? Is that what he's saying? When it's like, just watch the interview, if you're that invested to where you care about what I said, you should watch the whole thing. So basically, that was my way of clearing that up. And I promise I won't be clearing anything else. I made it clear and we'll let them think what they want to think. Right. And I know again, I appreciate the time you've given me my I understood why you retweeted because the reporter said for you to get the ball and be great.

That's the way your offense can work at its highest level. And that's why you retweeted that. My my opinion, though, what just seeing and hearing you saying these things makes it feel that maybe you're not being heard enough in in the system or the way that you're being used, which is why it's the first question I asked you here today was, you know, are you being heard or is this something that you feel that you are participating enough behind the scenes? And you say you are. So that's why honestly, you know, and I'll leave you with this, I'm to the point where and at this point in my career, based off of everything I've learned and all the people I've learned from and the experience I've had and, you know, the experience that I do have, I don't know if I could play on a team where they didn't value my opinion because I'm not the type of guy to speak out of turn. I'm not going to be in there stepping on toes, but I have experienced, you know, a lot of things and I've experienced the covers that I get more than any other person has coach or otherwise. So, you know, when it comes to beating certain things, I feel like it's important for me to be included in that to, you know, efficiently allow me to go out there and play my game and still impact the game because it's not easy. You know, you, you know, football, you know, better than 99% of the world. But if I told you to come in here and try to get me the ball versus 77 coverage, you know, it'd be pretty tough for you to come in and do that.

You'd have to spend quite a good amount of time doing that. I want to go back to my host chair, sir. Great chat with him.

Really good. I mean, it was 16, 17 minutes long, which is why, you know, I took the cue from him. It's like, I'll leave you with this. It's very Telesco-like. You know, he's like, I'll leave you with this.

And he left me with something for sure, talking about the input. And then we found out on game day morning, on Sunday morning, Tom Pelissero was here on Friday said he found out the Raiders had a full-on players meeting with McDaniels in the room. Everyone airs everything out, which is a fascinating week seven to week eight development here, making it a big game tonight, falling the three and five behind the Chargers. And then obviously the Chiefs at the top, what are the Raiders do? I don't think they trade him. I think he stays put. I think he's there. I don't think in a million years they trade him.

It would be quite a white flag in silver and black country. It would be quite the turnaround because that game is not going to end until what? I know. 1130 Eastern. Four o'clock Eastern Tuesday is what it is. The next day. Correct. So you'd literally have, what, 17 hours to make a trade? There's midnight oil, pal.

No. There's midnight oil. Phone lines work 24 seven. Big game tonight on Westwood One, and you could stream it for free. Sponsored by AutoZone all season long. You can listen to every Westwood One broadcast of the NFL live on the NFL app by asking Alexa to open Westwood One Sports or on your Westwood One affiliate stations, digital platforms.

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AutoZone. I love Devante Adams. Full conversation we had with him included his relationship with Rogers. He says Rogers and he talk all the time. I said, so Rogers is giving you two cents on what's going on there in Vegas?

He said he gives me five cents. They talk a lot. And then just again, his trade, you know, from Green Bay to Vegas, why it happened, Derek Carr, all of it. That's on our YouTube page, youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show.

Check it out. All right. Trade deadlines heating up. That's tomorrow. Well, we finish up this show. We're going to do it live when we come back.

844-204 Rich, number to dial. The football season is underway and Believe Podcasts are talking about it. When he went home and went to sleep, Mike Parson is terrorizing him.

Believe has podcasts covering all 32 professional teams and many of your favorite college teams too. And to be only producing 15 points a game, that's something that is definitely disheartening. Sideline to sideline, end zone to end zone. As a quarterback, I would expect him to be acting like that. Take the example. I would expect him to be acting like that. I would expect him to be acting like that. Take the accountability, put that on yourself.

Don't put it on your teammates. Search BLEAV Podcasts wherever you listen. Putting on ears. The podcast is on YouTube and wherever you listen. All right, got a couple more segments to go. And then you and I are going to record our overreaction Monday podcast.

We are. How many topics you got for me? Got 11. 11? Okay. You want a couple more?

Oh, all right. Whatever you think. I want quality. You know, less is more. I want quality. You give me quality every week.

Honestly, you come up with like 15 takes every single Monday. We got it. I got 11.

And then Howie Long is Susie and Amy's guest. Nice. So what was his... Firestorm. Wasn't that the other one? You know what? Broken Arrow and Firestorm.

It's kind of funny. I keep on mixing up his movies with Drew Barrymore's. Firestarter was hers, right? Howie was Firestorm. He was Firestorm. Yep. He was Broken Arrow.

Yep. How about Chris just going into a John Travolta reference later, you know, earlier on when I asked him about that? Oh, he was in 3000 Miles to Graceland. Was he really? He was? Howie was into that? Was he into that?

That's what it says. I don't remember him in that. But then again, I haven't seen that in like 19 years. He did an episode of 90210. Did he really?

In 1994. That's Howie freaking Long. That's pretty awesome. My dad was a French teacher. My dad's in the Coast Guard. There you go.

My dad didn't do anything that John Travolta was in. Also fun at any rate. Hey, Rich, going back to our earlier read for the game time. Yeah. You know how I got my Clippers ticket?

Through game time? Yeah. And you know what I forgot to do? No.

Use the promo code Rich. You dummy. No, your answer should be like, oh, so you could save it for the next time. Oh, it's your first purchase.

First purchase. I messed up. Sorry. We got some nice parting gifts for you. It's over. But he's like, he didn't take the middle key again. How many times we can present you with the middle key? Look, I got two words for you guys about that middle key.

All right. We're back. Back here on the Rich Eisen Show.

844-204-Rich numbered adult. Lots at stake tonight. Lots at stake. Because the Lions, they got to turn the page, right? Vikings are 4 and 4. By the way, do you know who's on injured reserve? Why Jaron Hall got in the game in Minnesota who might come off of injured reserve in advance of this coming Sunday game?

No idea. Big Nick Mullins. Who, as you know, has got time in the Niner system.

So that's what I'm saying. If Nick Mullins is there, Trey Lance can be there, too. I was going to sideswipe Purdy, but I decided... Don't sideswipe Purdy. By the way, that's a great... Sideswiping Purdy is not a bad fantasy to me. And the other 49er quarterback who looked great for 12 weeks and is now a backup.

Nick Mullins. Got it. See, you can't say, I was going to do it and then do it. Well, it's like my all due respect. Okay.

Sort of. You didn't say with all due respect, which means you're not inoculated from saying something disrespectful unless you say it in advance. Sorry. How many times am I going to teach you how to do this stuff?

He stays saying disrespectful stuff. Your rules are confusing to me. I'm just warming up for the podcast. Lions can turn that page tonight and the Vegas Raiders can get to four and four. Or Jimmy G and the Raiders fall to three and five.

Big difference, man. By the way, the Jets take on the Chargers and the Raiders next. They're in the mix. Everyone's in this mix through eight weeks.

It's great. A lot of guys still in the mix. But not really. We watch the game. This guy. I mean... This is a big game. This is what is at stake.

Can the Lions come home where they haven't played as well writ large over the season? This should not be a game tonight. I know.

Coop needs Amon Ross St. Brown to sit out completely. He was apparently hurt. I mean sick. Illness.

Illness. Because if he plays and catches one pass, he loses. He falls to 0-8, my son.

Sorry. How did he 0-8? He's got...

He had burrow. He's got everything. Honestly, he has no luck. He has no luck.

My son has no luck at all. And unfortunately he's going to play me in fantasy basketball this week. He hopefully will. You know.

Avenge his father's week one loss. I don't see that happening. You're going to have to wait another lifetime for that to happen. So thank you for that. Next lifetime.

Stupid. So tomorrow's show, Dan Orlovsky will be on it. Interesting announcement involving his appearance here tomorrow.

So that's something to let you know about. That's on tomorrow's show. And I want to thank today's guests, Daniel Jeremiah. And also want to thank my friend Chris Long for being on the program.

I want to finish up today's show this way. Year 2000, I was here in Los Angeles. Susie and I were dating long distance.

She was working out here. I was a SportsCenter anchor. I went... I don't know how I wound up there, but I did.

But I did the there being a movie premiere for a movie called The Whole Nine Yards 2000. And after that movie, I went to the post party and met two guys who I became friends with. Good friends. Hank Azaria and Matthew Perry. And they couldn't have been nicer. Hank couldn't have been nicer.

Or I should say about Matthew Perry, could he not be any nicer? And he, you know, Hank was a big jet, Nick fan, whatever. And talking about SportsCenter and Matthew wanted to talk about hockey. He's a big hockey guy. Got to meet him, got to know him. And then when I moved out here, got to know him even better. A sweetheart of a guy.

An absolute buddy, if you ever met him. Couldn't have been nicer again to appear on the podcast version of the show before we were anything. And there you see, this is Matthew Perry sitting in a green screen room, like a small little booth. To just talk about nothing except just say, okay, sure, but I'll come on your show. And then gave me not one, but two opportunities of a lifetime to play his nemesis on two of his post-friends shows that he did called Go On.

There he is showing up on my fake Rich Eisen live show to give me a bunch of grief. And then my favorite show growing up, The Odd Couple. He played Oscar Madison and he gave me the role in front of a live studio audience. And because he just was a sweetheart. He knew it meant a lot to me and the fact that he thought I could do it. And he gave me a chance along with Kenny Smith in one episode. There's Thomas Lennon.

And funny, sweet, a lover of tennis as well. He loved to make you laugh. And sometimes unintentionally he would just say something and it was just him being funny.

But there was always something beneath the surface. And he battled addiction and was very public about it. Certainly when it came to writing his book and just being awesome. And it hit me like a ton of bricks when I heard he passed away this weekend.

And we have lost a beautiful human on the planet. Who again could not have been nicer and found fame early on in life and had everything going for him. And I just wanted to say I loved him and I was so fortunate to get to know him and be a friend. I was a fan before a friend. And for everybody who knew him better than me, I say rest in peace Matthew Perry on their behalf and mine. or Becky Lanchard. I don't care what their birth certificate says, they're going to draw a younger demo because they're fun to watch and they're great entertainers. 83 weeks on YouTube or wherever you listen.