REShow: Rich Eisen from London - Hour 2

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We all need to do a better job. I mean, it's everybody live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Hey Andrew, when when Brady left, I said to Chris, welcome to the rest of us. The Rich Eisen Show earlier on the show, NBC Sports Boston Patriots insider Tom Curran. Coming up, Colts running back Zach Moss, plus your phone calls, latest news and more. And now sitting in for Rich, it's Andrew Siciliano.

What's going on everybody? A happy Tuesday with week five officially now in the rearview mirror to you and yours. Rich joins us shortly. Zach Moss, as mentioned, the Colts running back another hundred yard game minutes after Jonathan Taylor gets paid.

It is Zach Moss joining us in about an hour with Chris Brockman and Mike Del Tufo and TJ Jefferson here as always. Gentlemen, a happy Tuesday to you guys as well. As mentioned, none of us won the Powerball lottery.

The Powerball, which is a tax on the poor and those who are bad at math. I admittedly bought five tickets and didn't win, but I'm happy to be here with you today. It's worth it, man. It's not really worth it.

It's actually very not worth it. I mean, the $5 you could have dropped that walking down the street. Just $5 is nothing to you, Andrew. Well, it's $2 per ticket. It's $2 per ticket. So you couldn't do $5, so you had to do $6. So you just spent $10. It's quite literally a tax on people who are bad at math.

That said, I think I'm pretty good at math, but I still bought multiple tickets. Yeah, because somebody's got to win. That's my theory on it.

Isn't that a tagline, I think, in some states? Somebody's got to win. It's like Lotto. You got to be in it to win it.

Yeah, exactly. The Raiders won it last night. They won 17 to 13, despite speaking of bad at math, Josh McDaniel's insistence on kicking a field goal with two minutes to go. And then they missed the field goal, obviously setting up great field position for Jordan Love and maybe a chance to rewrite the script and pull a game out on the road.

Alas, it did not happen. And the Raiders get a win. Max Crosby is awesome.

Devontae Adams had a decent second half when they remembered that he played for the Raiders, and they're looking at two and three with the Patriots coming to town. And we are looking at live on your TV screen in his lovely hotel room, comfortable now and jet lag gone, getting ready for the Ravens and the Titans. Happy early evening to you, Rich Eyes. It starts to. You're not going to be like Madonna. You're just going to start speaking at an accent.

Speaking tongues. No, I don't. I don't plan on doing that just yet.

No, I don't plan on doing that just yet. By the way, no place to get Powerball tickets around here. No, sorry about that. Can we get you one now? It's all right. I could do math. Hey, I have consumed the Monday night game.

Yeah, I have taken it in. And I'm just going to give the Packers fans and the fan base of the Green Bay Packers the same message I gave you, Chris Brockman. All those years ago, when your Hall of Fame quarterback left for the AFC left the AFC East for the NFC South.

Now the Packers Hall of Fame quarterback has left the NFC North for the AFC East. And I'll say the same thing to them. But welcome to the rest of us. That is basically a it's not trolling.

It's not doing anything like that. It's basically speaking facts that you're going to have moments where you are used to seeing your quarterback lift his play or overcome some spotty play from everyone else or overcome injuries. Aaron Jones can't stay healthy.

Bakhtiaris on injured reserve. As we know, this is where Aaron Rodgers would step up and basically make lemonade or chicken salad, however you want to talk about it. And now you see a young quarterback who is struggling to get his footing on the road after a mini buy and 10 days off. Now you see what happens, certainly when, you know, a team like the Raiders showed up defensively in a manner that could clearly confused him. I know what you said, Andrew, moments ago about Max Crosby. Still, when the Condor is coming at you, you know, and is going to start pressuring you, you're going to start making mistakes.

And so I'm not putting everything on Jordan Love here. What I'm saying is you're just going to go through the ups and downs of a young quarterback trying to figure out his way in the NFL. And sometimes you're going to end up getting three picks on the road and that's what's going to do you in in the long run of a very winnable game otherwise. And so that's the way I'm looking at the Green Bay Packers, who have a ton of flaws right now. And the Detroit Lions have got to be sitting back looking around and saying, is this really happening? That the fact that we're playing as well as we're playing and the rest of the division is below 500 with not one, but two one win teams. Is that really what's happening right now where the Green Bay Packers, we've already beaten them on the road. They're two and three.

We're four and one. We just came up with a huge offensive outburst without Ahmon Ross, St. Brown and Jameer Gibbs. We're playing like this. Yeah, that's the way the NFC North is looking. And I'm just real happy that I chose the Lions to win this division because through five weeks, it looks like that's the way this thing is going.

Rich, you know, the Packers are that they are, to quote Dennis Green, they are who we thought they were. Like you said, a team in transition with a quarterback that's going to have a good day and a bad day and a good day and a bad day. And they headed into the fourth quarter week to up twelve on the road in Atlanta. And you're like, this is a two and oh team.

All right. Then they then they lost. Then they rally back week three.

And Jordan Love plays a fantastic fourth quarter after Derek Carr gets hurt at Lambeau and they win. And you're like, all right, this team should be three and oh, like, no, they're actually two and one. And they are exactly where we thought they would be. They're going to be up and they're going to be down. And it's kind of like welcome to how the other half lives, as you said.

Look at the man across the way whose finger is on his cheek. That's not these Packers are not who you thought they were. Christopher, I thought they'd be much better. I thought Love looked really good in the preseason. He looked good the first couple of weeks. I thought he would just steadily improve. But he took a step back too. He took a step back last night. Aaron Jones being injured, obviously.

And they finally got Jair Alexander back. Yeah, it's just it's it hasn't gone very well for this team. And you've got to wonder if they can get everyone on offense healthy and start putting some points up and having this defense play, you know, confidently with a lead. Is that something that they could do? A.J.

Dylan start rolling him downhill a little bit. I don't know what the answer is for Green Bay. The problem is that they're in a division with a two thousand and twenty three elite team. The Detroit Lions. I'm sitting here because I'm a lead pipe wielding professional. Also, Susie isn't come out here yet.

She takes a flight after doing what the football today with Michael Irvin and Amy Trask. So I'm actually starting to work on my power rankings right now. And I don't know how I keep the Detroit Lions out of the top five. And you have to take a look at how good they are and how good they're on the road and what they're doing to lesser opponents.

They're eviscerating them. And that's the problem for the Packers as for the Raiders. You know, I saw what you said to start the show, Andrew. And and I would jump in to say that the Raiders are are, you know, primed for a run based on their schedule, based on the fact that they just won. Based on the fact that they, you know, do have a terrific wide receiver running back combination. They've got a big time playmaker on the defensive line when Jimmy Garoppolo is healthy. We can only assume that this offense is going to get better. I it's just the number of times that I've bought in on the Raiders over the last two years, I've been completely burned.

And I might be a scarred guy at this point in time. And it's just so tough to call the New England Patriots a get right game. It's just I don't know if I could bring myself to say that. But would anything surprise us in that game? Like because it's nothing like if the Patriots win by 10 Brockman, I know you can't fathom a world in which they can score 10 points against anyone. But like it's Belichick and McDaniels, like nothing, nothing would surprise me. No question about it. And and the Raiders, you know, they're sitting at home.

I get it. But it's a short week. I don't know. I mean, Belichick says that they're going to start things from scratch, which means that would be a great way to even just throw. Like what would would Josh McDaniels even be able to answer that question?

I mean, I asked this of Kurt Warner when, you know, we were standing in front of Buckingham Palace about two hours ago shooting a segment for NFL Network. Like what what does starting from scratch mean? What is what does that mean, essentially? Like starting over? What does that mean?

I don't know. So is there a way for even Josh McDaniels to be left wondering what Belichick is going to be thinking? I know we're already turning a page towards towards week six right now, but that's the point is you take a look at the Raiders schedule and they have the Patriots coming in and the Patriots have played terrible football over the last two weeks. Then you figure that they win that one. They're at five hundred before taking a tour of the NFC North.

They go visit the Bears. And I'll shrug emoji that one, guys, honestly knows, you know, and then then there are the aforementioned Lions before the Giants come for a visit. And then the Jets, you have got those New York teams and they they I would have to say this looking at that schedule, you've got to win the home games against so-called lesser opponents. You've got to win the game at Chicago if you're the Raiders and have the ability to do this.

You've got to win the game against the Jets as well. So that's four wins right there. So that is, as you would say, set up for a nice run. So let's say they go four and one in the next five. That would be a very nice record of six and four heading into the toughest part of this. I mean, look at those opponents that they are playing around Thanksgiving and after their bye.

So they need to make hay in the next five weeks to make a run. And if they don't and if they play down to some of their opponents, which is one way to say it, let's just say they go two and three in that stretch. They lose one of those home games. They lose at Detroit. They lose maybe at Chicago because the the Bears might be who we think they were in the beginning of the season as an offense based on what we saw in Washington.

I don't know. I still need to see a little bit more and I need to see some consistency and I need them to beat opponents that they should. And you could see on their schedule. The next five is chock full of those opponents right now.

Those are my two cents on the Monday nighter. I left watching the Raiders last night thinking to myself, like you, like, like, all right, look at the schedule here. They could they could get some wins. Yet is this team even remotely good enough? Like we just like I think they can win those games, you just said, but I don't think they're a good team at all. You can't just check off wins. And I feel like half the league's that way. So, yeah, they should be able to go on a little bit of run here, whoever they are. But like, do we really feel confident enough outside of those top five, six teams? Right.

Of saying win, win, win for anyone. You can't. You can't. That's why I need to see it. That's why I need to see it. And but, you know, the alternative, as we we know them losing to the Packers, who we saw our team that's going to fight to be 500 at this point, the way that they're playing, they lose the Packers at home.

You're one and four. I mean, good Lord. The whole McDaniel's hot seat conversation that may not exist because, you know, Mark Davis may not be thinking this way at all. The Raiders fan base still might want McDaniel's head on on a pike outside of Excalibur. Did you see by chance the sorry to cut you off the the Mark Davis reaction shot last night?

When they didn't score on the goal line. Yeah. You know, I look and so he's just a fan, I guess. And I don't know how you can view anything other than, you know, the Raiders are a frustrating bunch, but they came up with the win. Yeah, they had to have it. You know, they absolutely had to have it. And and they got it.

So at least, you know, you check that box. But some other items that I want to talk about with you guys, along with I've got my top five list, so maybe, you know, I'll do that after the break here. But I heard about what Jerry Jones had to say on the radio in the Metroplex today. And Mike McDaniel came up with my latest favorite soundbite from him that I don't think you guys have talked about yet.

I kind of want to hit all that. We have not. Which one shall we do here? It's 14 after the hour. You want to do Jerry Jones or under the Dolphins? I don't mean to control things, but let's take a break. Come back.

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Call or click Grainger dot com or just stop by. Rich stops by as he has been all week here from London. Get ready for the Ravens and the Titans, the PFF grades. Oh, by the way, for week number five have dropped. Lamar Jackson, speaking of drops, the highest rated player at any position. Week five, according to the PFF folks, where is Dak Prescott, you ask? Let me see.

He is not on the list of the top twenty five. Well, I got to tell you this. I just saw the latest Kurt Warner post of him breaking down tape. And I think, you know, at some point you can see some of the similar cabinetry that you see behind us in my room.

So he's somewhere in this hotel doing his all twenty two work. So he just showed a remarkable video. I retweeted it that where Dak throws an interception on a double slant that is caused by the play call being on a tight part of the hash. That maybe they shouldn't have called that play because of how tight it is to run a double slant from the part of the field that they were on. And that the inside receiver runs the route at the same depth as the outside receiver, which means Dak gets zero read on the defense and just has to guess where to throw the ball. And those two items put together lead to a Dak Prescott interception. So now you can sit here and say this is excuse making. This is trying to come up with another reason to cape for Dak, which, you know, I like to do. All I'm saying is that it's not just on this guy.

And I do believe that if you get the right playmakers and the right play calling and everyone gets in a groove together, that this team has the ability to make a deep playoff run with Dak Prescott at quarterback. Call me crazy. You're crazy.

Thank you. I went ahead and said that he asked for it with the no, but I paused just to hear who would say that. And Jerry Jones is saying the same thing. He is saying the same thing. He's in denial. You could sit there and say he's in denial, but the denial may be about the roster, maybe about the roster.

Honestly, who is scaring you other than 88? Are we talking about the Patriots or the Cowboys? Let's talk about the Cowboys. The Cowboys have so many more weapons than the Patriots. But comparing Mac Jones's options to Dak Prescott's options. But it's a guy who refuses to give up roster control.

Hire a general manager. Both of them. The roster may be the issue here. Again, who scares you outside of 88 and maybe 20, but 20 is just not the same guy. Maybe I've got to sit here and take stock in myself too, TJ, because I've said to you, how many times did I turn to you, turn to my right and say to you, Pollard's got to get the ball more. More than Zeke.

You were his number one champion. And now Zeke's gone. Now Zeke's gone. You see more burst and big time plays from Breece Hall, Devin A. Chan before he got hurt. Zach Moss, right?

I mean, where's the big boom home run plays from him? That's exactly what they need. They need when they're on skates on defense and they're getting boat raced and they're not putting points up on the board, you need Pollard to go 60 and just say, screw it. This is the end of that. I'm gone.

And scheme them open or something seems to be off. But I believe Jerry Jones had something to say on this very subject matter earlier today. Very, very disappointed, of course, because we do and can play better. Number one, one of the first things that I ask myself in any situation, can we do some things different than we did against the 49ers? Can we do it? Are we capable of doing it?

Do we have the players? Do we have the systems in place? Should we have planned to do it? But in case we hadn't planned, can we do something different? The answer is yes. In my mind, make no mistake about it, we have a quarterback that can get us there.

And so I feel very strongly there. We have coaching on both sides of the ball that can get us there. You know what was also interesting there, Rich, is that, and we didn't play that part, Jerry Jones was asked, and we're only now week six, would you consider asking Mike McCarthy to give play calling duties to Brian Schottenheimer? You're already there, and he said, nah, nah, nah, nah. He shut that down.

That is not a conversation he wanted to have. But remember, we spent the entire offseason, you said Texas coast offense, right? That's what we're going to call this thing. The entire offseason, talking about how this offense is going to be so different with Mike McCarthy, but here we are heading into week six and Jerry's taken Brian Schottenheimer questions. Well, I mean, that's what happens when you get boat raced by the team that you definitely have to get past. And now you're going to clearly have to go to their house too, if you do make the playoffs, unless the Cowboys get lucky. And when they come off of a wildcard weekend win, they have to go somewhere else. And the Niners, presumably coming off of a buy, unless they lose to the Eagles, the Niners get knocked off in the divisional round and they don't have to go there. I mean, these are scenarios that I still think are in play. I don't think they're going to miss the playoffs. I think they might be in trouble as part of the overreaction Monday segment that Chris and I did on our podcast yesterday that I think they might even lose in Los Angeles to the Chargers and Kellen Moore, which would, I think, lend more fuel to the Brian Schottenheimer needs to call plays fire.

But even then at 500, there's still, you know, a ton of games left, 11 games to go. And the Cowboys can absolutely win seven of those if they can start playing explosively. The explosive plays like the one to turpin, they just don't, they don't happen enough.

They don't happen enough when, when their defense is not balling out. So when their defense is steamrolling people, then Dak can, you know, pick and choose how he sees fit sometimes to throw the ball. And, and maybe the play calling is, as you saw from Kurt Warner, just look at the video again and, and just know that it's difficult sometimes to play quarterback in this league in ways that we don't understand as just mere mortals. But I firmly believe Dak is, he's not the guy who throws 400 yards anymore. He's not the guy that's going to come up with, you know, five touchdowns in a game, three in the air, two in the ground, four in the air, one in the ground, like that guy's gone. So they need a running game to actually supplement a defense that can start boat racing people to use that phrase again. I'm not ready to hit the panic button on the Dallas Cowboys just yet. That's all I need to say, but that was a measuring stick game and they had the measuring stick hit him over the head on that front.

There is an alarm bell though, that's going off that I do want to hit on. In Carolina? The one in Carolina.

Yes. Um, you know, they're all in five and, um, and this soundbite from Frank Reich, this one hit me. I don't know if we've played this one yet on the show, but, um, this one hit me that, um, you know, David Tepper, the owner of the Carolina Panthers is a guy who's hands on. Um, we just talked, we just talked about a hands-on owner in Dallas, but he's got trophies in the case. We all know, uh, David Tepper still relatively new to, um, management and ownership, um, in this league. And so Frank Reich had this to say about how much he's hearing from his boss still being winless heading into week six. When you say David Tepper won't sit idly by, what does that mean exactly? I mean, is he getting more involved in some way and asking for things to happen? Well, listen, I don't want to speak too much for him, um, obviously, but you know, there's different philosophies in ownership. You know what I mean? Some owners kind of stay, stay away and, and don't engage a whole lot.

Other owners do. And his philosophy is he's going to engage. And, um, and listen, it's only been a short experience, but it's been a really good experience. It hasn't been fun. You know, it's not fun. Those, those meetings aren't, I wouldn't characterize them as fun meetings. Um, but those meetings make me better and I trust they make us better. Now, um, I don't know where to go with this one because I love Frank Reich. And if I'm the owner of the Carolina Panthers, you know, and, and I've, I've just made this big move for the first overall pick.

Would I be calling meetings with him or would I just let him be, you know, I, I don't know what sort of unhappy meetings and how they're not fun meetings. What that accomplishes with somebody who who's Frank Reich, certainly when this stuff comes out, it lends credence to what's kind of an open secret in the league right now. And I don't know if this is in fact the case, and I don't usually traffic in this sort of stuff, but I'll throw it out because this is what you quote unquote here is that, um, they were sold on Stroud and the owner wasn't and the owner. Interesting.

And it can't help that CJ Stroud has yet to throw a pick and he has lights out. That's the whole point here. Wow. And so, um, I'm just wondering, you know, if, if there's a hot seat there, they would be, I'll just say this very foolish to one and done Frank Reich. What about what if it's for Bill Belichick? Dun, dun, dun. Would you really, really?

Is that what you're, you're, is that another open secret you're throwing there? When Tom and done Frank Reich for Bill Belichick. When Tom Kern was on last hour, he was like, I said to Tom, I asked him it, let's say Bill's not there next year. Do you think he'd coach somewhere else? And Tom goes, wow, let's get to the, where should we put Bill Belichick in 24 part of the show? And, uh, Brockman over here goes, what if Brandon Staley crashes and burns this year?

You got a perfect situation. Bill's not young. You got Justin Herbert and Joey Bosa and Derwin James. I don't think Carolina would ever make any sense there at all.

Never. I don't get Brian Burns and Bryce young. And this is crazy.

I know it is. You know what they have in Carolina though? And I had this conversation rich with Frank Reich on NFL network, um, at the combine. There are a lot of cooks in the kitchen there. You got two former head coaches on his staff and Jim Caldwell and, uh, Dom capers. You have all these future head coaches on the staff. People think Thomas Brown's going to be a head coach is going to be a head coach as well. Um, one of these days you have Josh McCown, who's a promising young assistant now, obviously just finally getting his feet wet there do Staley is there. And I asked Frank, I bet that's a lot of cooks in the kitchen and you kind of boat up and push back against it.

But I have heard that you go back to ownership. That was something that David Caldwell wanted, right? You're going to bring in Frank Reich, but let's get a lot of big brains in here to make sure we get this right. Not saying that's the reason they're not winning, but let me ask you this question. Would you be, would you guys be an owner that has meetings with your coach every week?

I think there's gotta be a middle ground between hands off and meddling. I'd be in the middle, but no, I would not do meetings every week. And, you know, like, again, cause fantasy football, you know, you take a look at, at the Jones family. They run the Cowboys like you run your fantasy team, which is, which is I'm in charge. I draft the players. I picked the roster. I make the decisions on game day. Let's go, you know, and, and they're still waiting on another trophy. And I just don't know if I'd be that type of owner with Frank Reich.

You've made the decision. Certainly if I'm the one who made the decision to say, I'm putting my thumb on the scale, I want the kid from Alabama, uh, over the kid from Ohio state. But that's the whole, you know, and when you hear these conversations being had, you know, I don't know who's putting it out there. I don't know who's saying that sort of stuff from Carolina, but there's already some fingers being pointed right now. And I feel for Frank Reich, like Frank, Frank knows he's got a really talented kid right there.

And they're just haven't, they haven't computed yet. And to see CJ Stroud look the way that he's looked, I guess, at least for their benefit, Anthony Richardson can't stay healthy. So, uh, I don't know. I would just counsel, um, the, uh, Panthers to let Frank Reich do his thing. You hired him to do his thing. And certainly if you hired him and, and made the decision at quarterback that potentially he wasn't thoroughly sold on, um, then, then I don't know what, what, what it accomplishes to do, you know, the nonstop meeting thing once a week. And the coach is like, I'll tell you, it's not fun, you know, not going to sit idly by.

I mean, that's a great follow-up question. What does that mean? You're going to get fired? Carolina's schedule does not look good. They got Miami coming up this week.

That is a problem. Well, the thought of giving the number one pick to the bears too, like the number one overall pick, if they were to get that, the thought of giving that to the bears, it is a long, long season. But like everyone asks, well, what do you do with Justin Fields? If you have the number one pick, well, it depends whose number one pick it is. If it's your number one pick that obviously there's a problem here and you likely move on from Justin Fields, but if Justin Fields played well and it's Carolina's number one pick, then that's a different conversation. And the idea that if you're David Tepper, now you're thinking, I mean, everything was, was, was looking up here and it's only a month, but Bryce Young is, has yet to show a lot of an it factor, but they can't stretch the field.

I mean, Adam Thielen's your number one. What's his name? Terrence Marshall, not Terrence, Terrace now says, I don't know why I didn't play this week. I don't know if you, if you call it that.

Jonathan Mingo took all his snaps. Look, the latest 400, 400 came out, Rich. David Tepper, 20.6 billion. He don't care. He'll fire anybody.

He'll just pay him out. That's true. I guess. Not playing the Powerball. Rich, you want to do your top five here? Sure. Let's do it, kids. Yes, indeed. I've got my top five performances of week number five.

And you know what? I'm going to start with this guy because, you know, I know I've said his quarterback is the most valuable player on the National Football League through five weeks. And I know Brock Purdy had a terrific performance, but the word performance is what jumps out at me right here.

When you score three touchdowns and then you lift up your shirt that has a certain message for the town that has sent the visiting team into your building that you're scoring all these touchdowns against, that's what we call a performance. And this guy is a performer of the A++ variety. George Kittle gives us a little bit of sizzle and a little bit of energy to start our list right here. George Kittle is number five.

Look at those numbers at the bottom of your screen. He had a three piece chicken tendy, as he likes to say, on Sunday Night Football. And, yeah, three touchdowns and one eye popping shirt.

That is a performer of the first variety right there. Number five on that list right here. Number four on the list for me here on my top five performance performances for week number five. I'm going with a couple of halls. They're not related and their first names sound the same, but I'm going Breese and Bryce Hall. I'm going with the New York Jet combination of the running back who torched the Denver Broncos defense and then Bryce Hall, who scooped and scored a loose ball, not loose by a Jets defense led at times by Bryce Hall and by Bryce Huff and by, you know, Quinnen Williams and by Quincy Williams, that team balled out in that second half and bailed out in a way. Zach Wilson for a lot of his red zone mistakes, including not having a field goal. Bryce Hall. What a remarkable return to the spot where he blew out his knee last year with one hundred and seventy seven yards in that touchdown on twenty two carries.

Those are standout performances. Number four on the list. Number three on the list. It's kind of crazy that I've reached the point where Tyree kill comes up with one hundred eighty one yards receiving. And I'm like, OK, that's what it does.

Honestly, it is. So I'm going to put the kid who just went on the not the injured list, but he's injured now and maybe this is the last time I'm going to say for at least a month. Devin A. Chan, I mean, eleven rushes, one hundred fifty one yards and a score.

First guy ever with seven touchdowns in the first four games of his career. What a bummer that he hurt his knee in this game against the Giants and he's going to be out for a few weeks. I can't wait to see him come back on the field. I do hope he's back. Certainly in time for the Frankfurt game against the Kansas City Chiefs.

That's just you know, that's there's an eye on rich and eyes. And on that one, I want to see everybody out there healthy for that big game. But what a performance by Devin A. Chan right there. Number three on the list right here. Number two on the list for me in this this week.

I mean, he was terrific. You can put it up on the screen. You don't have to help me set it up.

I'll just get to right to it. This performance by Zach Moss from the Indianapolis Colts, twenty three rushes, one hundred sixty five yards and two touchdowns on the day that Jonathan Taylor is back. And not just back, but Pizzade. I thought this was going to be a Jonathan Taylor show. And I thought this is still going to be the Jonathan Taylor show. But Zach Moss is raising his hand and saying, hey, everybody, I'm having a breakout year. Hey, everybody, how are you going to bench me? Twenty three rushes, one hundred sixty five yards. And maybe just maybe against I can bring in the run scheme from Philadelphia is showing how you can run behind this line and this scheme.

And let's go. I mean, Gardner Minshew knows how to run that offense. This looks very Philadelphia, these numbers. So Zach Moss, I'll put that right there. Number two. And then number one, his numbers to say that you're always effing open and then come up with fifteen catches is truly walking the walk, catching the catch, talking the talk, whatever you want to say that Jamar Chase performance just when the Cincinnati Bengals needed it.

That one hundred and fifty nine hundred ninety two yards, three touchdowns, fifteen catches after you say I'm always effing open. That is what we call a top performer for week number five. All right. All right. We'll get one more. Let's do it.

I'll I'll I'll do it. I'll say it because I saw it and I called it. Travis Etienne for the Jacksonville Jaguars was Sue Herb. He was a big time difference maker. He was bouncing it outside. He was having trouble all day long, running it up the middle.

And they kept on trying it and they kept on trying it. And then Etienne comes up with twenty six rushes, one hundred thirty six yards and two scores, including the eventual ice or by bouncing it outside. And this Buffalo Bills defensive line that came in, banged up, got even more banged up. You could see that Doug Peterson felt I can lean on this team, lean on that defensive line at the end of the game. And Etienne came up with one of his best performances of his career. And the Jacksonville Jaguar is my one more for my top performers for week number.

He is many feet that Travis Etienne and those are the amazing top five included in there. A ho hum. Tyree kill one eighty one. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like just. Yeah. Cool. Whatever. Am I wrong?

No. Are we just now used to it? You're totally right. In the same way.

It's the same way that Phil Jackson was never coach of the year and Bill Belichick never coach of the year. It's just like, yeah, we kind of expect it. Whatever. One yards. Yeah. Seventy games. That's a big deal.

Seventy games. No big deal. Anyway, Rich, we have breaking news. We have an NFL trade which we will tell you about.

Yes. When we come back and I will stay off the phone, I will not see I will I will be it's being an unvarnished opinion. We have a trade. Who got traded and to where and why?

Next, you won't believe it. We're back on the Rich Eisen Show, Rich is in London. I'm Andrew TJ is here.

Del Tufo is laughing. Brockman is still a Patriot fan and Rich is in London. And I teased that there is a trade, Rich. I honestly thought that this trade would be to Carolina because we listed the coaches there. Sean Jefferson is a coach, the wide receiver coach for the Panthers. But Van Jefferson, his son, a former second round pick of the Rams, who has since kind of fallen out of the rotation. There was only on the field for two offensive snaps this past Sunday because Cooper Cup is back and because Pukadancic is doing his thing. Van Jefferson has been dealt to the Atlanta Falcons from the Rams for the for the pick swap thing, like what they did with Cam Akers and what happened last week as well with Chase Claypool. It is a 20-25 pick swap, according to Ian Rappaport, who broke the news before anybody.

Sixth and seventh rounders. I think Van can play. He's had some untimely drops the last couple of seasons and obviously had trouble staying healthy last year. The first half of the season coming back from surgery. Did you call his last game at the Rams? Did you call a quarter of his last game? Yeah, but he didn't really get on the field.

So, yes, I was in the building for Van Jefferson's final performance. You and Van Jefferson combined for zero catches. We had the same amount of receptions. Well, I mean, look, that's the Rams doing a solid by this kid to get him to a spot where he might get more reps. And this just shows you how Pukadancic, Pukabrazi is just crushing it. And him and Cooper Cup together are dynamite.

And that was part of the reaction Monday. That was part of our overreaction Monday podcast conversation was who are the best was the best receiving tandem in the NFL. You got to put those guys up there. You know, it's kind of crazy what we're just on the subject of a trade. And the few minutes we have left here in this hour is how with Justin Jefferson. Going down for four weeks and the Vikings at one and four. OK, and how two weeks ago, if you had said to me this would be the scenario for a Vikings team at one and four without Justin Jefferson for a month. Leaning into the trade deadline that this would be the scenario that I would have dreamt for because Zach Wilson wasn't playing very well. And I've seen the last two weeks from Zach Wilson and I'm kind of leaning towards I don't think the Jets should go get Kirk. Wait a minute.

You would take hold on. You would take Zach Wilson right now over Kirk Cousins for whatever. I mean, I wouldn't like one. It's not like straight up that Zach's better than Kirk Cousins. Clearly, I'm not saying that what I'm saying is the draft capital that the Vikings would hold the Jets up for. And the fact that there are, you know, signs of life from Zach and the fact that it would take some time for Kirk Cousins to get up to speed. No, it wouldn't.

Yes, it would. You'd have to come up with a different offensive scheme, Andrew. You know the way this works.

You don't just plug and play. He's a smart guy. I know, but you could put it just still takes time.

It still takes time. And then you're also signaling to the guy who's staring at Dolphins, you know, that this rehab that you're on right now, this hardcore rehab that you're on right now, thinking you're going to set records thanks to his fortitude and modern medicine. To come back this year, you're telling him we've got this year covered. Just come back for next year. Like that's I just don't think that's in the cards for the Jets right now.

And I think them riding with Zach is the best way to go. And I can't believe I'm saying, OK, at what price could I change your mind? What if it were a three? I don't even know. I don't I doubt that would be it.

I doubt it would be it. Come on. But if you're the Vikings and I don't happen out, you're tapping out on your fan base, you're tapping out on your team, you're tapping out on Justin Jefferson. OK, but you know, after Schefter rolled it out there this morning, hey, you have to wonder when and if Justin Jefferson will come back as the Vikings continue to lose. Yeah, I know.

And that's the way it extended absence. So what if Justin Jefferson says, I'm good? Right. And Kirk Cousins says, I'd like out, too. So take what you can get.

I know. And then they're they're staring at Caleb Williams. I just don't know. I just don't know. If the Jets would go for that right now, I just don't know. And, you know, they've got a bye week coming up after taking on the Eagles.

I'm just kind of suddenly rethinking myself about this right now. Next Monday, if Zach Wilson throws three picks against the Eagles, I'm not I'm not rooting for bad things. I'm not rooting for bad things.

I don't want to bring you pain. It's a long flight home. You're going to call a great game. You're going to be happy on the way home.

The Eagles are the Jets are going to win. I don't think that. But in our final twenty five seconds, I just I'm just saying that we know where he is. He's rehabbing, making sure his speed bridge gets him back. And if the Jets go for Kirk Cousins out of nowhere, you know, that might that might not be the plan.

This is all I'm saying, which is crazy. I wouldn't have said that a few weeks ago. We're saying Rich is in London, Kurt Warner and Rich will join us next hour as well. And Zach Moss, Indianapolis Colts, who made your top five.

He sits to join us in about 10 minutes. As we're still on the Roku here, I really think I really do think that if the Vikings keep losing, then the price I mean, it has to write the price tag for Kirk Cousins goes down. But you got to find a taker like if it isn't the Jets, that's the fun game here. If it isn't the Jets and I see joking aside, your logic makes sense here. If it isn't the Jets, then who would it be?

Somebody who needs a quarterback, somebody who desperately needs a quarterback because of injury. So what you want the Patriots to do it, Chris? That's nutty. That's just that's that's cool. I got I got your answer.

What is it? OK, if Deshaun Watson shoulder is really that bad. No, no, no.

I got you. That's really that bad. Now you'd have to pay one hundred million in cash in essence for your quarterbacks this year. No, whatever.

In essence, I mean, well, I mean, you only have to pay half a Kirk, so that's not a bad one. That's a good one, Andrew. So I'm going to take to the streets.

Oh, Kurt, Kurt, Kurt and I are to our head now. So I think I'm going to attempt to zoom in from the streets of London. Yes. Yeah. Mobile rich. What do you think?

Fan interviews? Yeah, I know. I know. I mean, I know you're going to miss the artwork. So take that.

Can I have that for my condo? And part of this is that's what I want to do, too. I want the turndown service, so I'm out of here. Make sure you take the ministry.

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