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Our number three is underway. I was. Justin Fields did not have a good day in Tampa. You came in, TJ, saying, what in the world are you doing calling a middle screen from the goal line of your own goal line?

Like, what are you doing? It doesn't make sense to me. Well, it can create a lot of havoc. And certainly if your quarterback isn't playing his best and he might flip it right up in the air for a pick six to end the game.

And that's what happened. Bears 0-2 and talk about pressure making diamonds. Their opponent this week.

Let me make sure I get this. Oh, yes, they're at the Kansas City Chiefs. Oh, boy.

Oh, no. Talk about blank space. So guess what? Justin Fields was asked about what happened last week and how he can improve his play with a very stout opponent that just made Trevor Lawrence look like he was a rookie again. And brings Mahomes and his new gajillion dollar contract with Travis Kelce and everyone else, putting points on the board for you to go hunt and wait till you hear his response and how maybe this is what we would term a rookie mistake if it wasn't something that he's already been in the league for a couple of years.

Check it out. My goal this week is just to go out there and play football. When you say thinking class, what do you think was causing you to think so much? You know, could be coaching, I think, but, you know, at the end of the day, it makes it, you know, they're doing their job when they're giving me what to look at stuff like that. But at the end of the day, I can't be thinking about that. When the game comes, I prepare myself throughout the week.

And then when the game comes, it's it's time to play free at that point. So, you know, just thinking less and playing more. Oh, my goodness. Coaching. Yikes. In case you're wondering what the headline is, I'll read it off right now on the worldwide leader in sports and their bottom lower third. Justin Field says he can't play like himself.

Because that's the clear indication. Hey, Justin, you're running all over the place. Justin Field says he hasn't been able to play like himself for the exact words right now on the worldwide leader in sports beamed out around the world.

Hey, Justin, you look great last year. Just running all over the place. Now here comes this crazy thing like schemes and ideas from people like coaches. And you're saying you're playing robotic. It's because the robotic aspect of it, I would think, comes from, hey, Justin, this is your read.

This is what you should be doing. This is where your receiver is going to be. And it's just something that he definitely knows. You know, he's he threw against Georgia right in that game years ago. He threw every possible pass off of every possible route tree, whether it was one of those frozen ropes or dropping it in a bucket down a sideline over the middle. I mean. So what was he just playing streetball for Ohio State? Is that what it was? Honestly, how else do you take this?

And I'll just say this, too, even though. Because if Zach Wilson's like, do you think you're letting your team down? No. Why are you playing robotic? Why do you think it is coaching?

That does come across as not accepting responsibility for your problem. Which is, you know, winning, being efficient. Finding the receiver they got for you because they kept you. These are the coaches that pounded the table to make sure you didn't wind up in.

Carolina. Or somewhere else. Right. I mean, this is this is 100 percent the implication from a statement like that. I have a feeling there'll be a walk back or two coming. Unless, by the way, how about the flip side?

Let's take Justin Fields point of view from what he's apparently implying. They're not doing right by him. Right. Using his skill set. How about that?

How about that? They're not doing right by him. That they are giving him too much of read this, do that, which sounds like, you know, trying to make him a professional quarterback. But certainly the guy that we saw running around last year and running for it. And maybe this whole thing about you got to hit your back foot, get rid of it.

You got to throw it more. Don't run around, Justin, because you ran for damn near twelve hundred yards last year. And guess what?

You might get your ass beat. Showing footage of Anthony Richardson not finishing two games. I don't know. Maybe they aren't doing right by him. And he's just like, I'm going out there. And if I'm asked certain questions, I'll just say it.

Or he's just being honest. What a what a sound bite, huh? From Chicago, Illinois. Coaching.

How's that next film session going to go? What's up, coach? Hi.

Hello, Justin. He only had four carries against the box. He's been sacked 10 times in two games.

Only two in two touchdowns. Yeah. Maybe. Let's try something else. Let's run around, because, hey, man, you're going to need him to be Superman.

Because the other guy's got an S on his chest, too. You know, the other guy might have this game circled and take it personal for them, not drafting. Who? Mahomes? Mahomes to the Bears. You think he's still I guess he could be he could be Brady six and deep down.

You would think not. But Tom Brady apparently carried a chip forever. So you took Trubisky, huh?

But they're all gone. Actually, look, you know. I guess right now, I mean, Nagy, Nagy inherited Trubisky.

Yeah. So the guy the guy who's currently in Mahomes's headset right now might be just what whispering this this year. This week. But hey, you know, you know where I learned where I got to Chicago, Pat? They didn't think you were good. They thought Trubisky was better than you. They looked at they grinded all of his, what, 14 games in North Carolina. They grinded all that tape. Something like that. Yeah. They thought North Carolina had had better tape at North Carolina than you had at Texas Tech. See, you don't say it. You don't know. Hey, I heard I heard they grinded all that Trubisky tape and they even thought Deshaun Watson wasn't anything in Clemson either.

Yeah. But this Trubisky. But Trubisky, they had to have him. Pat, they had to have him.

Showtime. They didn't think he was good enough, son. By the way, super hot, super hot take. Patrick Mahomes, if he got drafted by the Bears, he'd be on a different team by now. You know what? This is possible, but this is the age old quarterback. It's the age old nature versus nurture. Right.

The the the same old, same old. And this is why, again, you got to feel for for like Darnold. Let's put Darnold's perfect example. Todd Bowles was essentially like a dead coach walking potentially when he gets drafted. Then he's drafted. Todd Bowles is gone. In comes Adam Gase. OK, then he, you know, he's seeing ghosts himself.

And then see you later. And then there's Matt Rule for him. And then now he's with Shanahan and he's finally gotten. So what if he had shown up?

What if Andy Reid had drafted him, for instance? You know what I'm saying? Like there are there are things like you're lucky or not. You're lucky.

OK. The same thing with Trevor Lawrence. Trevor, hey, you're drafted first overall. Your head coach is Urban Meyer. The biggest flame out in the history of NFL head coaching, honestly makes Bobby Petrino look like they should name the trophy the Petrino Trophy in the NFL. That's that's how bad it was for Urban Meyer. And then Doug Peterson comes in. And maybe we're seeing the ascent that we all expected Trevor Lawrence to have.

That said, who is Justin Fields guy? Well, maybe he should walk into the film. Should he walk into the film room just to break up the break up the tension, just like doing the robot? Like, are we watching film today? You know, are we watching film today?

All right. It's a Wednesday, everybody. You know what that means?

Given you what you want. Croissants? No, that was yesterday.

It's Susie. Champagne? Ice cream?

No, no, no, no. You said for me to do for years. Yeah.

People what they want, Rich. It is a trip to Boulder. It is the football version of croissants. Yeah. It's my power rankings.

Hit it. Oh, rankings. This one is ranking presented by Carnival Cruise Line. It's sponsored baby. Yeah. Power rankings presented by Carnival Cruise Line. Come on.

Yeah, you're going to like it. I guess. And I'm on a good ship. Seattle. Once again, hop on board. People, the Seahawks have recrapped my top 10. I love it.

I love Geno Smith going into Detroit where everybody's thinking this is Detroit's year, including me. And going in there and showing them who's boss. They don't have their tackles. They don't have the press yet. They go in there and they take the lines to overtime and they take them out. And now the Seattle Seahawks are one and one and they knock the Lions off my list and put themselves back on it. Something that I'm sure they were celebrating in the locker room.

Unbeknownst to them. Number nine on my list. New to the list. New.

New. Oh, their defense is buzzing around. Their wide receivers may be the best in league that nobody's talking about.

And they look pretty damn good because there's somebody who wakes up dangerous and he's planting the flag at number nine. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Baker freaking Mayfield. Yes. OK. Mike Evans won 11 straight games last year with Tom Brady without scoring a touchdown.

He scored a touchdown the first two games this year. And Shaq Barracks buzzing. Warren Sapp came on the show yesterday talking about how good they are defensively. And they are. They are buzzing. And now they're going to be buzzing in Tampa. Did you hear Rich had a nine on his power rankings list presented by Carnival Cruise Line?

They're going to say exactly those words. Number eight. Down two spots. I still have them on here. Hey, they hung in there. They hung in there against the Chiefs.

I got the Jaguars here. I still think they are better than most in this league. I still think they are top third in this league.

They got what they takes and no shame in losing it home to the Kansas City Chiefs people. Well, you have them eighth. So that means they're top quarter of twenty five.

OK. Top third. I've got ten. These are ten.

But they're eight. OK. Excuse me.

I was told there would be no math on this test. Sorry. Number seven. Up two spots. Say say what you will about them. They're 2-0. They're the Baltimore Ravens. I'm putting the Ravens right here. They won a game in Cincinnati, pal. And I know what they did against. They played Houston week one.

It's just two weeks in. They're 2-0. They've got Lamar. They play defense. They're going to get better on offense. They're number seven. Up one spot.

The Buffalo Bills are sixth. I told you about Josh Allen. Don't worry about this guy. There are going to be some messy days. There'll be some days where you've got to clean up. You're going to look at the kid. You're going to look at the kid and say, you're going to leave that there? You're going to leave that there? Really? That's what I say to my kids all the time. Like, hey, look around the room.

You're going to leave that on the floor? Really? That's what it is with Josh Allen every now and then. But then they come home and they delight you. That's what happened.

He went home. He delighted the fans. Stefan Diggs and him. They're tight. Yeah. I like the Bills. They're sixth. Top five now. Down two spots. Down two spots. Philadelphia Eagles.

I need to see a little more. Not going to lie. They're 2-0.

I know. They're down two spots. They're down two spots? They're down two spots. What did they do to get down? You know what?

What did they do to get down? They're just a little off. They're a little off.

You know what concerns me? A.J. Brown's barking.

How is A.J. Brown barking at his quarterback? What's going on?

He wants the ball. I understand that. You've got to do what you've got to do to win. We're watering.

We're fertilizing. We're not arguing. Down two spots. Yeah.

Because number four on this list at no change. I like the Chiefs better than I like the Eagles. Really?

Yes. I know they lost a game at home. But they barely scored last week. Kelsey Chris Jones for Patrick Mahomes.

It's our privilege to be paying rent in his NFL world. One and one team. I got it. Head of a 2-0 team.

That's correct. They're my power rankings and they're sponsored. Number three on this list. Up two spots. And I have them above the Chiefs because I'm being consistent. I said this team is playing like they are the most complete team in the American football conference. The Miami Dolphins up two spots.

I have them three on my power rankings list. Tua is the man. Tyreek Hill scored a touchdown even though Belichick held him down on offense in terms of yards a little bit. Raheem Mostert's running up the gut. They played better defensively. They're going to get better with each passing week. The four words for the Miami Dolphins season.

If Tua stays healthy. Because I can tell you as a New York Jet fan with all due respect, Mike White is a step. Let's just put it that way. Just a step.

You can figure out which direction the step goes. Up or down. I just didn't deserve the shrapnel. And I'm going to get the shrapnel because two on the list are the Cowboys. Two on the list are the Cowboys and I am still... I chose this team to win the Super Bowl so I'm going to stick with them as long as they're undefeated. Cowboys?

No. 49ers. Number one. Christian McCaffrey leaving the league and rushing. Defensively.

Defensively. They've got some people. I'm circling. I'll just say this to you, TJ.

I am circling. You've got his sign up too. He thought I'd have him number one just because they beat the Jets and Zach Wilson. I thought I was going to like this list.

I don't like this list. Week five. Week five. Circle week five.

This respect is real. 49ers. Cowboys.

Week five. Circle it. Circle it. I don't know where I'm circling.

Circle it. 49ers are going to, I think, dismantle the Giants on Thursday night. They'll be home for Arizona. They'll be 4-0 taking on Dallas. Dallas has Arizona this coming week and then Dallas has New England in their house and I think they're going to treat New England quite rudely. If I may say. I think my top two teams in the power rankings will have that at week five and then we'll hash it out.

And then I have a whole two-thirds of the season after that. So those are my power rankings presented by Carnival Cruise Line. Whether you enjoy Caribbean beaches or curated cuisines, the spa or riding the first roller coaster at sea.

Carnival makes it easy to plan a vacation where everyone can choose their own kind of fun because no one does fun like Carnival. Hmm. Would you again. Just real quick. Interesting. Real quick. Interesting. Caribbean or Caribbean.

How would you read that? Pirates of the Caribbean. You say Caribbean. Pirates of the Caribbean. It's a Caribbean cruise.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. TJ? Well, if I'm singing like the Billy Ocean song, it's Caribbean. Caribbean queen.

Right, right, right, right. Sing Pirates of the Caribbean. But you can't take Billy.

First of all, and I know this is about Carnival Cruise Line and it's Billy Ocean. You cannot take anything seriously from a man who once told you to get out of his dreams and into his car. After that, it's all off. That makes sense to me.

You understand what I'm saying? I did that all the time. What does that even mean? You know my dreams I've had about Halle Berry? What does that mean?

Get out of my dreams and get into my car. It's creepy. It's weird. It makes no sense.

It makes total sense. I mean. All right, let's take a break. Gary Goldman is here. He's a very funny comedian with a new book called Misfits. Misfit, pardon me.

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Marvel Studios Loki Season 2, new episode streaming October 5th. Only on Disney Plus. Larry David, we've done this before with you. Yeah. I've got three social situations.

You are the judge and jury as to what is done. Okay. The first one is destination weddings. Okay.

It's already funny. Destination weddings. I say to my wife, we're going to a destination wedding. We should not give a present because my presence is my present.

What do you say, Larry David? First of all, where is the wedding? How far is it?

Another country. Okay. You don't even go. You don't go. You don't go. But it's a close family friend. I don't care. I am not flying 14 hours on a plane to somebody's wedding. I'm not going to do that. What distance from your house?

An hour and a half by car. That's it. Here's social situation number two for you, Larry David. Sure. So you're going into somebody's house. Let's say the fight, the Mayweather McGregor fight.

This happened to one of our producers, Ken Tullo. Okay. They brought desserts.

Fight ends. Nobody's touched the desserts. They like these desserts. Is it okay to take the desserts home? It's still, you're bringing it to the host, right? That's true. If the host saw it, it's different if the host didn't see it, then you could sneak out. So if the host never saw it, if you place it on the table and there's no note. Yeah. That's when you could take it.

If you think you're not going to get caught, yeah, then you could take it. Last one for you, Larry. L.D. Shoes off on a plane. Do you have a problem with somebody on a plane taking shoes off?

I have a big problem with it. Yeah. Yeah.

Keep them on. Okay. You know, don't make yourself, it's not your house.

All right. You're inside. You're in public. I don't want to see your socks. And God forbid you have a little odor down there who needs that, right?

And I don't even want to know if you do have it. Exactly. It's close quarters. Come on. Take a couple of minutes.

Keep your shoes on. Welcome back to the Rich Eisen Show. I'm sitting at the Rich Eisen Show desk on the Rich Eisen Show radio network. The desk is furnished by Grainger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Grainger has the right product for you.

Call clickgrainger.com or just stop by. The author of Misfit, Growing Up Awkward in the Eighties, Gary Goldman is here on the Rich Eisen Show. Good to see you, Gary.

How are you? In honor, Rich. So great to meet you and see you and sit by this gorgeous desk.

This is the, yes, this is the Rich Eisen Show desk. So, you know, I've been told by many people that we're going to get along just great. Yes. We know people in common.

And then I just did what I always do for guests who have not been on the show yet. I Wikipedia them. Oh, nice.

Yes. I have a strong Wikipedia page for somebody as virtually unknown as me. No, no, no. Don't say that.

Don't say that. You're an author or a comedian of note. You've got tour dates coming up. Sure. So, which we'll get to.

And this is how I know we're going to get along. Interestingly enough, it says subject matters that are, I guess, part of your comedy. Yeah. So, everyday life, pop culture, childhood and Judaism. So, I'm like, guys, what more do I talk about? That's like, yeah, that's the grand slam.

You touch them all right there. Yes. So, I think we're going to get along just great. Yeah. And the book covers Hebrew school and Jewish summer camp.

Not exclusively, but amongst other things. I always felt that Jewish summer camp was this great opportunity for young Jewish boys to have the Gentiles culled from the pack so that they stood out in athletics as well as physical appearance. So, it was, yeah, it was the T-ball of dating and Jewish social life. One of my greatest achievements was to get out of Hebrew school so I could stay, and we're the same age, I believe. I'm 54.

You're 53. Yeah. You have, because you're from the Boston area, right? From Massachusetts.

Yes. We might have had different experiences. I got out of Hebrew school. My parents allowed me to get out of Hebrew school, rare occurrence, to watch the Yankees and Red Sox play the game that was the Bucky Dent home run game. Oh my gosh, the 78, wow. In 1978, there I was, what is nine years old, getting out of Hebrew school. You were rooting for the Yankees or the Red Sox? I mean, I'm from New York City, sir, so we're on opposite sides of the fence. I was rooting for the Red Sox, and it's sort of my, where were you in JFK?

I remember exactly where I was when Bucky Dent hit that home run. I was at my Uncle Norman's, and Uncle Norman was able to get us very good electronics because of his job. He was a burglar, which, what non-Jews- I have no idea that burglars got great, I mean, I guess it makes sense. What non-Jews don't know about Jewish people is that we run the gamut of professions. We're not just journalists and accountants, there's also burglars, and there was a Cy Young Award winner, the most recent one I think was Steve Stone, but before that there was Sandy Koufax, of course, which you can't talk to a Jew about baseball for six seconds without him bringing up Koufax taking off Yom Kippur. My mom and the guys here love talking about this, TJ for some reason in particular, the sweetest guy on the set, along with Del Tufo, is that my mom went to the same high school as Sandy Koufax, and once upon a time had an opportunity to maybe go and out on a date, he would be a gentleman caller potentially.

A woman in my Hebrew school carpool, I am not making this up, the late Gail Greenberg- May she rest in peace. Dated Sandy Koufax. But here's the thing, I think that anyone who was in his high school or went to his high school claims to have dated Sandy Koufax, because this can't be that big of a coincidence that the two women who intersected with Sanford Brown Koufax dated him.

So he's like the Jewish Judd Nelson of that odd breakfast club, the most strange breakfast club in the history of high schools. See I told you we'd get along, I knew it was Gary Goleman here on The Rich Eisen Show. I have been told you have a fantastic, one-of-a-kind college football story. Is this a true story, Gary Goleman, how did you get into college football? I played one year of high school football and could dunk and catch- I was just bigger and faster than everybody in the greater Boston area of football, but I was soft. Like I was soft and I was a reader, but Jack Bicknell who, I mean he was a legend because he had coached Doug Flutie in the Heisman Trophy year, this was a few years after that, he saw something in me and he was completely wrong.

There was nothing to me except that I could excel when people were around 5'11 and I was 6'6 and 255, and then I got to BC and the tight end ahead of me was Mark Chamorro. Oh my God. Yeah. Wow.

Okay. He's pretty good. From the Packers, he was really good and he was the only one who could run faster and jump higher, so I tested well, I was like a combine superstar, but then when we got on the field I would just get the daylights knocked out of me all afternoon long and then my reps decreased and before I know it, they sent me to a therapist because I was having my first of many breakdowns and so Boston College was very generous and guided me through four years of college football. But how many reps did you get in high school at college at football? Oh, I played in 10 games. I was a starter, offense and defense, and there aren't any decisions you have to make other than your route in high school and when I got to college it was like, well if you see a rolled up corner and I just, if they're in cover two and I fogged over and I could never read defenses and so I would turn around and the ball would be in my back because the quarterback was Glenn Foley who just had a cannon. Wow. So Glenn Foley was your quarterback and we were below the depth chart from Mark Chamorro at Boston College just years after Flutie had that big moment.

Yeah, but quickly they moved me to offensive line where I was with Tom Nalen was the center. Geez. I mean, yeah, it's a who's who and then a who's Jew. I just, and nobody, it was a Catholic university and it's just, there were no mezuzahs on any of the, they knew it was me because I put up, it was like Rams blood. That was a pass over.

Glenn Foley would pass over you. Yes, exactly. Exactly.

But there were no satyrs to be found. Plenty of communion, but no matzah. I think we need to move Judaism up on this list of Wikipedia subject matters. Well, I know my audience. I pander.

I pander. Glenn, you're a comedian of note for sure when you do that misfit by Gary Goleman growing up awkward in the eighties. What was awkward?

I remember what was awkward for me in the eighties, but what was awkward for you? I mean, the thing was is that my dad thought I would have, and he was right, but it crushed me. He thought I would have an advantage athletically if he made me repeat the first grade, but I was, and this is sad that I have to point this out. I was in the top reading group. I was a good student, but my father wanted to get this.

It was sort of like the Malcolm Gladwell outliers. So I didn't have a January birthday for hockey, but I could repeat the first grade. And it didn't make me excel at sports, but socially I was too mature for the people who were a year younger than me because it's a big gap at that age. And so I didn't fit in with them. And then when I went to Hebrew school, most of the Hebrew school kids were, you find out that there are different levels. There's a spectrum of Judaism. These kids knew all the holidays and I was hearing about Purim and all I had celebrated was Hanukkah and Passover. And then they're coming in and they're just, they're rabbi level Jews in comparison to my house. And it was just, I didn't fit in with those kids. Also they were pretty well off.

Their fathers were all shoe salesman or, and my parents were divorced, so we were just broke all the time. It was a, it was a, it was a lonely time. What a high school story. Oh my gosh.

Okay. And that's all in this book. That's part of the book. And then also we have my first date and also the Hebrew school and the Jewish summer camp I went to that was, because we were broke, it was paid for by the local Jewish Federation, which is very generous. Where did you go? It was called Camp Simcha and I swear to you, it was called Camp Simcha and they would pick us up on a bus. And I went there and I was, I was actually, I was bullied by Jews, which to be, to be bullied amongst the bully, it was, it was very uncomfortably because they were, they were busing in kids from a, from a marginally more tougher town called Lynn, Massachusetts. It was the city of sin. And, and, and so these kids were, were already getting to second base with girls and everything like that. And I had no use for a sheltered pampered free ride to camp Simca.

I was on a boat to Simca. Gary Coleman here on the, on the rich eyes and show the first thing, uh, Chris Brockman noticed when you sat down or what, what did you notice? Christopher?

Oh, Gary's wearing the new Jason Tatum sneakers. Let's go. Okay. Yes.

Tatum ones. So you are a diehard, diehard Celtics fan since 79 80 when, when Yeah. So bird's rookie year.

Yeah. I was, I was eight or nine I think. And we just fell in, we fell in love with him. It was, I mean the perfect time to follow basketball or nine Larry bird shows up to Boston to be a Celtic fan at eight or nine when I was eight and nine, you know, I was, I was, what was I doing was watching Rory Sparrow play for the Knicks. Michael Ray Richardson showed up at some point in time. Sly Williams, yeah, both Williams when he played, um, you know, Buck Williams had a little bit of a, some time with the Knicks then and then Ewing showed up.

Yeah. Um, I watched Ewing in high school cause he went to Cambridge. So I went to a basketball camp that his coach ran and, and it was the most exciting time of my life.

And it was, the great thing about sports is that you intersect with people who are, who are from different cultures. So it was the first time I really knew African American people close and I learned a great deal about the importance of lotion and, and I, I, and, and, and I, I shared with him the ideas of, of, uh, Saturdays off, lotions crucial, crucial. He would say, if we don't, if we don't use lotion, my roommate was Ray Marshall, we roomed together for three summers and he said at the basketball camp and he said, if we don't use lotion, then we get what is called the ashy and we will be ridiculed from the moment school starts until the end of the day. And I said, Oh, that's like wearing a jeans that are too short in a, in a white school. You could never get over being, uh, for having floods. So it's a, it's a very different thing.

Uh, but uh, according to Ray, the worst thing was to be either nappy or ashy he would say. Yeah. TJ, would you like to chime in on this front at all? Grace told no lies. And my wife is a black woman and she confirmed all these things, uh, later on. So you received confirmation throughout your entire life.

And now TJ has also confirmed it. So I, I, I got lotion on my desk over there from the Roku. I can't be things that the Israelites never had to worry about was it, it was, uh, ocean. We were, I don't know if this was a case with you growing up in the eighties, but the idea of sunscreen, we never wore sunscreen. And any mom who had sunscreen was considered a helicopter parent.

Uh, then I had a helicopter parents, a helicopter parent. That's fantastic. It's funny.

The other day, Gary, Gary Goldman, again, these book misfit were all books for resetting rich. But I'm a professional researcher is that the other day, uh, on, on, uh, the night before the NFL kickoff, the mother of Travis Kelsey was on NBC being interviewed by a Kelly Hartung of the today show and prime video. But any rate, she was being interviewed because Travis had gotten hurt. Right?

No, I remember. So we, she was asked about her son's readiness to play. And I thought to myself, what if my mother was in that position? What if my mother was being asked if I was physically ready to play football and she would have been like, are you, he said his knee, he shouldn't play, you know, he should sit, he should sit.

He should get well, you know, are you resting enough, honey, honey, are you getting rest these two a day practices twice a day when do you rest? Yes. You get it.

A hundred percent. So I'm sitting here and thinking, do I say something on NBC, just like if my mother or something along like Donna Kelsey is not Hamish, you know, like, I don't know what to say. Yeah.

I let it slide. But you can't go wrong in bringing it back to our mothers. It's always funny. There she is right there. Like, that's the beautiful Donna Kelsey next to her brother or her sons, you know, they're the brothers, the Kelsey brothers. Yes, yes. She has two sons in the NFL.

The trainers are going to look at it and my mother would be like, the doctor should absolutely be listened to, don't listen to anybody but the doctor. Yeah. The Jewish equivalent of having two sons in the NFL, I think, is having two sons in the big four accounting firms, yes, to have Price Waterhouse and or your kids are Price and Waterhouse. Now that's the Super Bowl. Wow. I feel like this, much like Casablanca, is the beginning of a beautiful friendship, Rich I just told. Yes.

Gary. Oh, so fun. So how do you think? You must be excited.

I'm really excited. The Celtics paid Jalen Brown, right? Oh my gosh. And Tatum's going to be next.

You know he's going nowhere. I mean, I haven't felt this way since Garnett and Ray Allen joined the team, but I've loved this team since the year when Irving went down and Terry Rosier the third came in and dominated. Very Terry. I mean, yeah, this team has been through a lot. I'll miss Marcus Smock, but- Nice. That's good one. Yeah. It's a shame.

He had the greatest name in Boston's sports. Not since- No more gosh, your para kid. That's what I'm saying.

No more kids. Marcus Smock was the greatest guy ever. Why would we be the top five?

I mean, you got Marcus Smock. Oh my God. Wow. Yes. Yes, kid.

Because he was also Kyle Yastrzemski guy. Yeah. And then, yeah.

No more gosh, your para. And although we loved mostly Tutupu, but it didn't really flow. It didn't flow.

Yeah. It didn't flow with the Boston accent. Tom Brady. I mean- Tom Brady. Tom Brady kid. Tom Brady kid.

I'm not a member of the LGBTQ plus community, but Tom Brady, that's a good looking guy right there. No doubt. No doubt.

No doubt. So your tour dates- GaryGolman.com. Yes.

Newark, New Jersey at the Victoria Theater, Boston Mass, the Wilbur. Yes. So that's pretty cool.

What a beautiful tour. Yeah. I can't wait.

The Wilbur. Yeah. I can't wait. And those are all sold out, but I'll be returning. And the book I did in an audio version and there's also the hard cover. The hard cover. And I got the hard cover, I did the audible version. You're going to take it back. Yeah, I do. Misfit.

Growing Up Awkward in the 80s. Available now wherever you get your books. Gary, come on back. Let's do this again. Oh, yes.

I was hoping you would invite me back. Before we go, a little let's hit the wayback machine. I think we have a photograph.

Gary Goldman. There it is. Oh, wow. Is that a Topps cart? Is that a mullet? You didn't tell me you had a mullet. I was rocking the mullet to the point in 1989 where the hockey kids were impressed.

They would say, what flow? BC hockey at that time, we had what was called the hemline, which was Steve Hines, David, Emma, and Marty McGinnis. Oh, man. And they made it to what was then the final four. Now it's the frozen four. That's right, yeah. And it was the greatest college hockey season I've ever witnessed. It was extraordinary.

You had a Topps cart, man. That's pretty cool. I think somebody photoshopped that.

I don't think that's a real. At best, I redo Don Russ or Flair. That's awesome.

Don Russ or Flair. Yeah. 89 Don Russ. That's 82, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Why not? And then the upper deck, the upper deck Griffey, which was used for currency in Seattle. You could pay for coffee with a Ken Griffey Jr. rookie card. Gary Goleman on Twitter and Instagram, everybody go get Misfit where books are available. Thanks for coming on. This is the greatest interview I've ever given. It's been a blast. It's been a blast. I knew it. As soon as I saw the Wikipedia page, and what your likes are, just like, I mean, it's a great intersection.

It's a Kenahara, as they say, right? Man, we would have been really close friends in high school, Rich Eisen. I know that. Wow. I know that. Not your close friends now. We are. Yes. Better off than never.

Let's confirm that Ashi is bad. Gary Goleman here on The Rich Eisen Show. We're back with more in a moment. It could be information to change your life forever. Or the Something You Should Know podcast could just be something interesting. My guest is Kim Zuckman.

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It was a riot, man. Honestly, I saw those keywords on Wikipedia. I'm like, we got this. I think that's a great fantasy football team name, by the way. Which is what? Ashy Israelite?

Ashy Israelite? That's not bad. We got to name our team. We're 2-0. You don't have a name, I think.

In the fantasy footballers. I think we don't need to name it. No, you keep 2-0. Oh, good.

You know what I mean? It's fantasy 2-0. Just fantasy team.

What are we? Just The Rich Eisen Show? That's the name, right?

Yeah. Just like football teams. Fantasy team. Rich Eisen fantasy team? No, no, no. It's just Team Rich Eisen Show, right? Yeah, it's like Team Rich Eisen Show. Are we RAS Consulting? No, we need a name.

No, don't change. It's too brony not to have a name. It's too brony not to have a name.

Don't do it. Point in time. I don't know.

Well, guys, we have problems. I don't know. We'll get to that in a second. Hold on. We'll get to that. Hold on. We'll get to that in a second.

My app needs to update. We'll get to that in a second. Meanwhile, we're not changing our name until Arthur Smith shaves his mustache. There we go. That's it. Just put his face on me.

They're 2-0. And his mustache is staying. I like that. That's good.

Okay. Then we'll change your name to Arthur Smith's mustache. I'm looking at Sam Howell talking right now. He hasn't changed his bedhead. Say, how's his hair look?

There's nothing elite about it. Look at that stare down. I mean, come on. By the way, I saw Colin Hanks on Sunday because he showed up at NFL Network. Because he's a Niner fan, he went to the game on Sunday. And he is preparing new stepfathers. Well, we've got so many new coaches in the week. He's come up with Mike McDaniel on the spot.

He came up with Arthur Smith, I believe, on the spot. It's great. I'm like, please come in. Please make time. I think he's coming in in the next couple of weeks. Hold on.

I've got to put Eckler back on our starting lineup. Hold on a second. Oh, do that later. We have the show to get to. I have five seconds. We have the show to get to. There we go.

Back here on the Rich Eisen Show. Guys, we're 2-0 in our fantasy league against the fantasy footballers and the rest of the jamokes that they put up against us. We got problems. We got problems. Our fantasy quarterback says he's not playing himself like himself and he's playing like a robot. Yeah.

We're 2-0 despite Justin Fields playing like a robot. Should we play golf this week? I don't know. We ought to talk about it. Because...

I think we might have to. Hold on a second. I can't wait for it because earlier in the show we played the fact that Justin Fields said that when asked, why are you not playing as freely or as Justin Fields-like as you want to be or can be, and he said coaching. And he gave a longer answer. So what does the actual head coach of the Chicago Bears have to say about it? Looks like he's taken in the comment and it's a note.

It's a note for Eberflus and this is what he had to say. Obviously you know if he's feeling that way, then yes. I think that a player needs to feel free. He needs to have the flow of the game.

He needs to use his instincts. That's what you want from players, right? You have any players like that.

If it's a receiver, linebacker, defensive line, those guys, you got to play free. The guys were brought here to play that way. We want to see them. We want to see those end of the game situations. Obviously as a quarterback, you got to go through your progressions, but there's also instincts that are involved in that and we want them to have that flow.

We want them to have that freedom to do those things. There you go. So first of all, there's someone in Chicago giving Del Tufo a run for his heavy typing money. He's a heavy typer. Eberflus.

Heavy fingers. So Eberflus is like, okay, if he feels that way, which means the subtext to that is he's not in tune the way his quarterback thinks and the subtext to what the quarterback is saying is the coaches aren't in tune to what he's thinking writ large and that is 100% going to be the conversation on every radio station in Chicago from here for a while because we're assuming this is not going to be vastly improved in Kansas City. No. Oh my goodness. What a Wednesday in the neighborhood for the Chicago Bears. Deep dish pizza.

Deep dish. Oh my God. Justin Fields acting like a robot.

How about he does the shopping cart instead and actually start filling up the cart with W's? Hey, nice. That was a really good. Thank you, Mike. I appreciate that. Really good.

What a day. I mean, Justin, Justin Fields has got to know if he's saying coaching. Well that's going to be what's going to happen to the coaches. I'm not going to hear that.

You think? He said it in your press conference. Come on, man. Or this is a coaching problem. I'm telling you, he hated that screen pass. Bears fans are not happy.

Just talking to the one in the back. Well, don't throw it. Dirt it. What are you doing?

Dirt it. He's out there to run the play is called, man. I don't know why I'm sticking up. Rap sheet who's on What the Football with Suzy and Amy. Go get it.

We're all podcasts required. Just said Saquon's out. So whatever Brian Dayball was, you know, floating yesterday.

That balloon is now popped. No Saquon. Start Matt Breida if you dare against his former team. I would sit this one out. You think? If you have Giants players in fantasy. Let me just, let me just say this.

James Dolan says he doesn't like owning sports teams. So let's the New York Times and this big feature, you know, he's he owns that sphere in Vegas. Yes. Yeah.

Which I'll be at. That's his latest. That's his latest thing. And I'll just say this. Hey, James.

And I just runs the risk of me. I'd love to go to that sphere. I'd love to see you.

Are you two playing? I'm going. I'm going. Don't get me. I want to go in. Great. So don't worry. Don't get Mike banned.

I'd love to go. I'm assuming with something that is so state of the art, there's there's they could smell that you don't like him just walking in. Cause apparently that's part of this fear is it is they're going to incorporate smells. Yeah. And everything. Yeah.

Oh yeah. That's the reason why this cost 2 billion bucks. It's crazy. But hey, James, you don't want to own sports teams. And you say, as he told the New York Times that in New York city owners are hated until they're dead pretty much just don't tell fans to drop dead. How about that? Let's just, let's just be a little bit more attuned to customer service.

James. And if you please, here's the deal, sell the Knicks, keep the garden, sell the Knicks, sell the Knicks, do what you want to do with the Rangers. It seems like they're immune to your whims.

You get kind of, you kind of don't care as much about them. Sell the Knicks, keep your tickets, show up with your scarves and your coffee and whatever you're doing there. You can still come to the games. Just get out of the business, go to Vegas. Be like Mo Green. Go to Mo, go, go, go to Vegas like Fredo, the Fredo of owners.

Go, go, go, seriously, go there, do what you want to do, you know, at the tables, whatever you want. Just go to Vegas. No, stop, stop, stop, I was implying, just go, go, go, go, go to your sphere, go, go, go in there and make sure the sphere, it looks amazing by the way, honestly, just go, go, go to Vegas, enjoy the sphere, leave the Knicks, just leave them, leave them, leave them. If you don't want to do it, can you imagine you go to the New York Times like, yeah, you know what, the economics, there's apparently says they're sleepy to him, the economics of owning a team, whatever it is, just, he's up 20 X, just leave, leave it, leave them, go to Vegas and that's it. The Fredo of sports owners can just go to Vegas and hang out, please, James, just do it.

Let's get them all, let's get them all now while we've got the money. Hey guys, it's Susie Schuster and I am so excited for my new podcast coming out this fall. It is called what the football with Susie Schuster and the princess of darkness, Amy Trask. If you're looking for a new podcast to listen to about jargon, heavy legged waist benders, this is not for you. We're going to have big girl conversations and we're going super deep to bring you weekly guests that you won't find anywhere else. It is what the football with Susie Schuster and Amy Trask wherever you listen.