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We got a couple of phone lines open for you to fill on up. Albert Breer is going to join us in about 20 minutes time to give us his two cents about what happened in Chicago yesterday. And then the rest of week number three, Joe Boro's ankle tonight. No Saquon Barkley for the Giants against the 49ers. So Albert will be joining us with the freshest and hottest information from Sports Illustrated.

Matthew McConaughey, the Academy Award winning actor and the author of a new children's book called Just Because. He's going to be joining us in hour number three, in which I'll also give you my top five college games of the weekend. Chris Brockman and Mike Del Tifo are in their spots. Good to see you gents.

Good morning. TJ Jefferson in his spot as well. The candle's been lit for over an hour. Kyle Brando, Good Morning Football was on talking about his Bears. He said the dreaded words. Bears fans can't have nice things. And so Justin Fields spoke honestly yesterday. And when you do that in a quarterback in the NFL makes it sound like you are not taking responsibility. And just ask Zach Wilson that.

He will give you the lesson learned conversation. Because it was after last year's disastrous loss in New England. One impotent offensive series after another, after another, after another. And then the Jets special teams broke at the end and the Jets lose.

And the Jets get swept by Belichick. It's insane. Eight straight seasons, 14 straight games. They have lost to Bill Belichick, 14 straight football games. They have lost.

It's absurd. You know, in the same way that Aaron Rodgers signed the had the ownership papers of the Bears while he was in Green Bay, Belichick owns the Jets. I mean, forget about Woody Johnson. Who owns the Jets? It's Bill Belichick.

And he takes special glee in that. And this guy's coming to town at 0-2 for the first time since Mo Lewis blew up Tom Brady's innards. That was in 2001. They lost the opener with Drew Bledsoe. Game two. Brady comes trotting out. And they lost that game too.

We all know what happened after that. And Belichick has not really had the lower hand on the Jets very often since then. But there's a new regime. And the question is, if Zach Wilson isn't the guy against New England, and here he is again against New England because Aaron Rodgers, four snaps, 75 seconds into the season, blows out his Achilles.

And the guy who is essentially rendered inoperative as the Jets quarterback forever more, in my mind, is coming to town at 0-2, needing this win in the worst way. So who's going to take it over? I nominate Garrett Wilson because guess what?

He has nominated himself. I love this guy. My favorite Buckeye ever, potentially. I don't know what that list looks like. I don't think I'll ever come up with a top five list that way. You could.

I know you guys would be counseling me to do that. But it's Garrett Wilson, man, saying the stuff out loud you need to hear in a big week. Look, I can talk about, and I will on Friday's show on the usual spot, the games that I'm looking forward to the most this weekend, you look up and down the lot. There's not a lot of them that have that sizzle, that juice, that long standing rivalry that has on top of it desperation and needing, want to, have to type stuff.

This one has it all. And Garrett Wilson says it's time for the Jets to finally beat the New England Patriots. This is what Garrett Wilson had to say on local New York City radio. Barton Hahn, I believe, nationally as well.

This is what he had to say on this New York based radio program. 14 straight is unacceptable. That's unacceptable. I'm owing to against them.

That's unacceptable. I inherited, I walked into a team that we haven't beat the Patriots. And I feel like that's why they brought me here and brought me and sauce here. And the guys here is to make things like that change. So it's time that we do what we get paid for. It's time we do what we get paid for. I like it, right?

Okay, how many? Because this is as close to I'm not here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings as you can get. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, and the Jets need it.

Sauce, too. Quinnen Williams, cue ball, as Warren Sapp referred to him the other day when he zoomed into this program, Breeze Hall. Let's get him working. Let's get him going.

You do have the kids who can be all right enough. And then maybe helping out Zach a little bit here, maybe. Hey, Ron, where are you? That's what I'm wondering. I know he's maybe still out here on the West Coast convalescing, checking out the Dolphins, as he said, is it is therapeutic, by the way, it is.

It is, can confirm. Maybe is he can we FaceTime him as he likes to do or zoom with him or get him on with Zach? Talking about what Belichick might throw at him.

Maybe getting on the horn with Nathaniel Hackett. Where is Aaron right now? That's what I want to know.

That's what I want to know. I know he can't physically be there. And I said it the other day, the faster we can get him on one of those rascals or with the scooter that you put your people have the faster we can get him out there on the sideline where it's safe enough for him to be there, the better. Let's get him on the phone with Nathaniel Hackett and Zach. Let's get them all together because he is part of this team. I would love it. We need him. Aaron, where are you? I'm taking attendance. It may be too soon.

You mean Denise? And here's the other. Here's here's the nice. So so the blocking. You got to get those offensive linemen blocking.

That's what you got to do. And to help with this process, like let's not wing it around on Belichick and go into the teeth of what he's trying to do here, Hoskins put it up here. I don't know if you're aware of this, but there's a tropical cyclone or something like that climbing up the East Coast. Yeah. And it does appear that by Sunday it's right over East Rutherford, New Jersey. Yeah. By the way, there's games in Baltimore and Washington that can be affected as well.

Buffalo and the commanders and the Colts and the Ravens. What's the name of that storm? I don't know. It's currently called Potential Tropical Cyclone Sixteen. It's not the name is an OSHAK Hennessey.

It's definitely not the OSHAK Hennessey. No, but so I'm saying here, like maybe the weather can just say to hack it. Give it a Breeze Hall. Give it a Dalvin Cook. Mount him up. You saw it.

Most just did use Garrett Wilson out wide. If you can. I mean, I don't know if it's going to be too windy or rainy. Belichick is going to have that hoodie on. He's going to really look like the Emperor Palpatine more than anything else.

Or is it time? Whatever. All I know is I loved hearing that from Garrett Wilson.

I loved hearing it. Where is A-A-ron right now? And that's what I want to know, too. Gosh, Key and Peele is all over my Instagram algorithm right now. And if it's delightful, it's pronounced Aaron. Oh, my gosh.

So that's what I'm thinking for this. I mean, you look at the rest of tonight's matchup is kind of delicious. You want to talk about history? Oh, here's a great history thing, too. So I was, you know, Julian Edelman was here a couple of weeks ago. I completed the home and home with his podcast. Games with Names, where, you know, a guest sits down and talks about a game that is special to him or her and chops it up with Julian.

What game did you play? And so there we are afterwards. I'm holding in my hand in my left hand. What Julian Edelman handed to me surprised me once we were on camera. That is Hanukkah guilt. He wished me Happy New Year. Didn't think he would go, you know, fellow Hebrew with me right off the bat. But he did in the past that he's Jew ish.

I understand that. But it was a delightful chat with Julian in his podcast studio here in Los Angeles, California. I believe in his new home. Nice. It was nice. He's got a beautiful labradoodle named Rocky. Oh, that was strolling around. He did do the Belichick impersonation. A couple. It's really good, man.

Is he good at that? But the game I brought up was the Bart Scott can't wait game. Can't wait because it is Jets Patriots week. And it is the last time the Jets won a playoff game. They went to the AFC Championship game for the second straight year that year.

That was also the second straight year. The Patriots got one and done that had never happened before in Brady's career before the previous year against the Ravens, and everyone thought, oh, the Jets. That was a plucky team that made the AFC Championship game before Peyton Manning spanked them in Indianapolis. Here they are back in the divisional playoffs in New England. There's no way Brady's getting one and done back to back years.

Yeah. And the Jets did that. I just wanted to kind of channel it that this is the game that the Jets need to play at home with Zach.

Let's go. And of course, that was the game. You know what was also surrounding that game? Wes Welker did not start the game. Edelman did.

Right. This is before Julian was Julian Edelman. You know, it's because the report came out about Rex Ryan's affinity for lower extremities and West Welker.

Yes, podiatry. Wes Welker in his media availability leading up mentioned made a reference 11 times. You got to put our best foot forward. This player's got really good feet. You got to watch that guy's footwork is great. We got to be on our toes was a good one.

His best one is he called one of the Jets a good foot soldier. And apparently Belichick was livid about it. I mean, it was hilarious.

That's horrible. He got punched. And I asked Julian, I'm like, Bill has got a great sense of humor.

Did he not even see that he goes rich? It was the playoffs. Bill doesn't have a sense of humor when it comes to the playoffs. That was genius by Wes Welker. It was so funny. Let me tell you, we on NFL Network that week, NFL Total Access, we made a big, huge meal out of it. As you should have.

Well, I mean, it's still a team in the NFL, but coach. I mean, did you put your foot in your mouth? I did not. Hold on.

It was 11 times he said it. Yeah, I have found the video. It's great. Oh, yeah.

I mean, he had it ready. We watched it back. It's a fun pod.

I'll let everyone know when it's up. It was a lot of fun. You know, next time he's here, can we talk to him about Randy Moss?

I've heard him share some Randy Moss stories that are incredible. Oh, fantastic. You just can't stick your toe in the water, he said. Yeah, you got to go all the way in.

I mean, he really later, but he was also very monotone about it. Oh, yeah. It was just like, you know, you got to put your button.

If you had just done it twice or three times, fine. Eleven. Well, we got the point in the media. He wanted to make sure there was one more than toes. So he went 11. Very good.

No. Good job at the drops today, Mike. We spent a lot of time pre show cultivating that caper. You know, you get so for clamped about it.

It's subordinate and churlish. That's how I get. Don't congratulate me yet. We still got a lot of show left, because it's like when you come up, Rick, you get a little tense and you come up and you do not.

No, no, no, no. I have fun doing it when I stand over you. It's like I said to TJ, I want to let you know what I want.

I gave TJ the example. I'm Dr Dre in the lab. You can't bug Dr Dre when he's working. You're sitting over me like, I told me you don't bother Dre. He's asking me, where do you want it?

What do you want? I was joking. No, you're not joking about Justin Fields right now. You're telling the truth. And when you called out, are you going to blame the media for clicks? Then you're going to say what? I'm blaming the media. I'm playing with me.

I'm blaming the media for clicks thing was so bizarre. That's literally what you said, Justin. But it's also what a kid does when he's kind of out of options here. Also, I think he's 20.

Like, honestly, let me just say this one more time, and then we'll bring Albert Breer in to be on time with him. Kids 24. He's 24 years old. I cannot recall if I was ready to do a press conference at age 24 at all. Age 24 is when I started my TV career, baby faced, you know, honestly. And he's obviously been in front of microphones his entire adolescent life.

I imagine still, though, he's learning a lot of things people forget. You're a professional talker. That's what you do. Not when I was 20, 24. But my point being, like, sometimes when the words get mixed up and they don't convey what he was just being straight up honest. Why are you not playing the way that you are playing? Why do you feel robotic?

Why do you feel it is not natural? Why do you feel it doesn't look like last year? Well, coaching and what it means like is that that comes across as saying you're not being coached properly. And what he meant by coaching, it appears, is that they're in his head to talk about drilling him down and going through the bumps of making sure that he does get comfortable doing what they're asking of him because they don't want him running around and they don't want him hurt.

And they do think that this is in the long run. What will help him win right now? These are the bumps that you go through with young quarterbacks. And speaking of which, what we'll talk about with Albert Breer, it looks like Bryce Young might not be able to answer the bell on Sunday in Seattle. Red rifle time, which is exactly why you keep that guy, keep him.

And that's why nobody's walking through that door for the Jets right now. It's Zach Wilson's show. Let's take a break right here on the Rich Eisen show. 844-204-rich is the number to dial. We'll take your calls after we chat with Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated.

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Substitute teacher. Oh, my God. Where is A-Ron right now? I'm serious.

I mean, where I am, by the way, I am wondering. I'm assuming he's got to be involved in this game plan, don't you think? Don't you think they've got to include him? He or he's probably he might be asking to be on the Zoom calls or whatever. Scott, right. He's not physically at the facility.

No way. No, I mean, he's got rehab out here to do. And I'm having my fun putting on a rascal or whatever. I do remember Richard Sermon blew out his Achilles on a Thursday night and was out there like he did it in the first half. He's out there with his teammates in the second half.

He already had his knee on one of those wheelies, I guess. Whatever you call it. You know what I'm referring to, right? Yeah.

And so I'm walking to the set the Thursday night postgame show set. I just said to him what I would normally say to anybody. I'm like, hey, man, how you doing? And he looked at me kind of like, why would you be asking me that right now?

And I'm like, oh, yeah, my apologies. I hope I hope back for him. No, I know that. But he's in the middle of all this stuff that was towards the end. That was towards the back end of his career.

He did come back from that and he wound up in San Francisco. I just remember all that. So, you know, it's touchy subjects, man.

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Call click Grainger.com or just stop by one of my favorites. Love having him on. He makes me smarter from Sports Illustrated. Joining us here to also explain why Ohio State sending quarterbacks to the next level, feeling robotically penned in by things like reads and progressions. Albert Breer here on the Rich Eisen Show. How are you, Albert? Did you catch the Texas game on Sunday? That's true. He is looking good. CJ Stroud looks comfortable.

Albert, he does. Yeah, they're very different players. It's interesting from the same place, but very, very different players, obviously. All right.

That's my churlish way of beginning our conversation. What happened in Chicago yesterday? Let's start with Justin Fields first.

Albert. I would say it's interesting, because I do think he was blown a little out of proportion, because I think if you read the tweet that kind of blew up, you thought one thing. And it got my attention because I was like, God, that doesn't sound like Justin. And then I went back and I watched what he actually said. And it wasn't really where he just said coaching is the problem. It was more, I have a lot going on in my head right now.

There's a lot rattling around up there while I'm standing in the pocket. And coaching is part of that. What sort of coaching, how much coaching I'm getting.

And I want to go back and get to a place where I can play fast and free again. And so what I can tell you about the internal handling of that is things really blew up while they were on the practice field. And so the Bears are out there practicing. Everybody's going nuts over this on Twitter. They get back in, Justin gets to his locker, looks at his phone, sees the world is melting down about what he said at his press conference, immediately ran to Luke Getze, their offensive coordinator's office. And they talked it out.

Those two have a really good relationship. And there wasn't even really anything that needed to be squashed, I guess, because there wasn't a problem in the first place. But Justin did apologize, and they were able to move on really quickly. Now, that said, I mean, let's talk about the root of this, right? The tape is really bad.

And I've heard that from people with teams that are on the Bears schedule that have played the Bears. The tape isn't good, and there's a lot that needs to be solved there. And in Justin's comments, there's a lot to chew on. I just think the whole idea that he was pointing the finger was misplaced to begin with and taken care of quickly internally. Well, I mean, what he did say, because I didn't see the tweet at first.

I heard the sound bite at first. Okay. And the way I took it to mean is that the coaching is an impediment. That is the way I took it to mean. And just to be consistent, that if I'm going to sit here and roast Zach Wilson last year for sounding as if he's not responsible for letting the locker room down and him saying, well, why are you playing robotically? And his answer is coaching. Well, maybe that's a way of saying I'm not understanding the coaching or processing the coaching, or I'm letting the coaching getting in my head too much, which is a him problem. That's not a Getsy problem. And what Getsy is trying to do just to continue this conversation, I imagine, is to keep Justin Fields upright and in the pocket. And the faster he gets comfortable and not feeling robotic, standing in the pocket and running the plays as they're schemed, the better for him. But I'm just wondering, after what he said, that maybe you just go to him and just say, let's throw everything out that makes you feel robotic and keep everything in that doesn't and seeing what happens in Kansas City, and now I give you the floor back on that supposition. Yeah.

I think there are two things to look at here, Rich. Number one, they felt like they needed him to be Superman last year, and they don't feel like they need him to be Superman anymore. The roster was in such disrepair last year.

They were carrying all the dead cap, and they were trying to make it work with not much in front of them. They were, I'd say, deficient receiver. Also, there wasn't much they did well in offense last year. So if they were going to win last year, they felt like Justin Fields had to be Superman, and so they played that way. And the second piece of it is they don't think that playing the way they did last year is sustainable. And I think Justin Fields injuries, the way his body was at the end of the year, is proved positive to that, that that might look good in the short term, but that's not going to be something that's going to be sustainable over years for the franchise. So you look at that part of it, and then you got to juxtapose it against what a traditional NFL quarterback does. And maybe the Brady Manning sense. And Justin is really far from being that.

So how do you find the happy medium? And this is a guy who coming out, like what Ryan Day and the coaches at Ohio State all said was he just needs reps. He needs to play more. He needs to see more.

He hasn't seen enough, and he doesn't see it fast enough right now. And so how do you kind of find that happy medium between what you want him to be ultimately, which he's not that right now, and what he's really good at and can do right now? And I think a huge part of this when you're adding Darnell right in the draft and you're adding DJ Moore in a trade is like, how do we find that happy medium in doing what Justin does well, continuing to grow him as a player and getting the most out of the players we've put around him? And clearly, the Bears have struggled with that a little bit.

And I think you can see it watching Justin. I mean, look, there was a point at Ohio State between when they had JK Dobbins and between when Trey Sermon went nuts at the end of his last year. They had trouble running the ball, and you can see when the running game was taken away from him and when they weren't running the ball as well as a team, he'd stand there in the pocket.

And it was almost like he would doubt what he was looking at. And they were good enough around him where they could protect him in those situations. And he had open guys to throw to. In the NFL, it's a little more challenging when everything's talent equated.

And now you don't have that extra second to sit in the pocket and hold the ball. And so they either need to find a way to help him see it faster or simplify things on him, and that's all going to be a process. But I certainly think they feel better about the team around them. They feel better about the offense than they did a year ago, as bad as it looked through two weeks. And it feels almost like moving away from what they did last year to make it work with Justin to make it work for the players there in the team last year. It's almost like they're sort of hitting the reset button starting over again on offense, and they're going through some obvious bumps and getting to where they need to be. It seems like they just got to hit the reset button for the entire organization right now, Albert, because that wasn't just the only thing that happened at Hallis Hall yesterday. I mean, Braxton Jones, their left tackle goes on injured reserve and the defensive coordinator, Alan Williams, announces he's leaving the team. What's your reporting on the defensive coordinator with all the craziness that's swirling around over the circumstances of his departure?

Albert? Well, number one, the FBI was not at the Bears facility yesterday. Number two, the coaches were told that the very worst stuff that you saw on the Internet was not true. So you take those two things at face value for women's sport. That's what the coaches were told.

The FBI wasn't there. The coaches were told the very worst that we've seen on the Internet is not true. That said, like in talking to some people in that building, the phrase effing crazy, I tweeted this yesterday, was brought up to me about the circumstance.

And I had somebody say to me, you've coached with a guy for a number of years and you think you know him. And then this happens. So there's still a lot of mystery over it.

I wouldn't jump to any conclusions, but clearly it's not very good. And it's amazing when you think about it, Rich. I hate to call anything unprecedented. I was just on the radio here and somebody was asking, this is crazy, like a little stretch as you've seen for a team in the NFL. I'm like, well, my default is to think back to the week that Ray Rice and Greg Hardy and Adrian Peterson all happened within a few days. But that was with different teams, you know, to have your defensive coordinator resign and then your offensive coordinator be under this kind of fire in the same day is a lot. And it's going to be really interesting to see what becomes of it, because obviously, on the other end of this, they have the Super Bowl champions waiting for them in Kansas City on Sunday. Albert Breer here on the Rich Eisen show.

We started by talking about CJ Strad a little bit. It looks like he's the only rookie quarterback who might answer the Bell on Sunday. What's going on with Bryce Young and Anthony Richardson and their readiness for this weekend that you may have? Yeah, so, I mean, obviously, it's very cut and dry with Anthony Richardson. He's either going to clear the protocol or he's not. And until we see him back in the practice field, like, you know, obviously, the Colts are under a very strict protocol as far as what they can do with him.

Yeah, I mean, I think it's Bryce Young to come out of this and be injured after two weeks, whether he plays on Sunday or not. Rich goes back to the whole question about his size, and I hate to do it, but it's like, I mean, you can see it every time he drops back there. Like, the question with his size, and what's so interesting about it to me is, like, it was never about whether or not he could see. And with most short quarterbacks, it is, because that is a real issue. But, you know, I remember talking to Frank Reich about this, and, you know, he was like, when he would stand... One of the reasons he felt so comfortable going with him from the jump was, like, you know, he would stand behind him in the spring and the summer and see the field the same way the quarterback would. You know, he'd stand behind the offense, and he'd be like, this guy has no trouble seeing anything. So it was never height with him. It was more his frame and how he could hold up. And it's not the greatest sign in the world that... And the line hasn't played great in front of him.

That's certainly a factor. Both his starting guards are out. You know, the tackles haven't played as well as they played a year ago. But, you know, the fact that he's already nicked up isn't the greatest sign. And so I know they're going to try to get him ready for Sunday, but, you know, missing practice time for a rookie is a big deal.

And then obviously Andy Dalton would be the guy to go in Seattle if he can't go. And it's the latest example for my friends in the New York metropolitan area who are already infuriated with Zach Wilson. Like, no one's going to flip the Jets their backup quarterback right now.

I mean, that's just not going to happen. I'm still wondering what your reporting is on what the Jets are thinking in that building right now. I mean, does Joe Douglas have a list that he's ready to pounce on when he can? You know, are they privately as bullish on Wilson as they are publicly?

What do you got for me, Albert? So they want to give him runway. You know, they want to get behind him.

And I think that's why you saw the public declarations over the last couple of weeks. And I do think there's, like, a genuine feel that, like, they want to make it work with him. You know, they want to do it with him. And I can say, like, the feeling was, like, he's coming into this in a much different context, right, than what he was the last two years. Like, his first year, there wasn't a lot around him because the team was being retooled under a new head coach. And then, you know, last year they're trying to figure out if he's a franchise quarterback or not.

So they're asking him to do some things that probably are more than they need him to do now. Now, with a really good running game, with Dalvin Cook and Breece Hall, and if you get the tackle situation figured out, you can have a really good running game. And obviously, they have a potentially dominant defense that's super athletic and has franchise players, and Quentin Williams and Saus Gardner.

You know, you kind of can say, put your hands at 10 and 2, kid, and keep the car on the road, right? The problem with that is that's never been Zach Wilson's game. And in fact, like, the criticism of him coming out of BYU was that he too often passed up the layups, and he would make these big, exciting plays. But some teams looked at it and said, well, like, there's this guy here and this guy here and this guy here. He didn't need to hold the ball.

He didn't need to run around. And so can you rewire him, or does it even be conducive to getting the most out of him to rewire him to be a game manager? Because it does feel to me, and I don't know, you watch them as close as anyone, Rich, like, they could kind of use a game manager right now, right? And so I think that's the question is, and that's sort of where I think they're stuck in between, where it's like, this team kind of needs a steadying presence, a game manager, and that's never been Zach Wilson's game. Can they make him that?

And is it even the right idea to make him that? You know, because you can't go through another year where he's playing the way that he did last year, and you can't risk it with the roster that you have, and if you have any prayer of getting Aaron Rodgers back, like, you want everything, you can't just get to nine or ten wins so you can get in the dance. That's the question they're going to be asking themselves over the next five or six weeks, and they're going to give him some runway, and they have given him some runway, but if it looks like it did against Dallas, and Dallas has got a great defense, so maybe that's not the best context to look at it in, I mean, five, six weeks from now, you get close to the trade deadline, there are going to be teams that are going to be one and six, that are going to be two and five, that are going to be looking at it and saying, maybe we do need to offload some pieces, or maybe that backup quarterback isn't as important to us. So I think that this is going to ultimately come down to how Zach Wilson plays, and then if Zach Wilson doesn't play, the sort of opportunity that becomes available because of the way other teams play. Any word if Rodgers is part of the game planning on the phone with Wilson in a meeting with Hackett via Zoom, FaceTiming, anything, Albert? You know, I'm going to look into that for you, because it isn't something that I had necessarily thought of, and I'll get back to you on that, but it is something, honestly, it is something, Rich, that the relationship that Zach and Aaron have is a genuine relationship.

It's one that pre-exists their time as teammates. It's one that was a facilitator and Zach staying on the roster after they traded for Aaron Rodgers, and I may have told you this story before, but after Zach Wilson's first start, and I don't think he played real well, if I remember the story right, he comes back the next week, and that Friday night, it was, I think, 8 or 9 p.m., and Zach's at the facility, and Aaron calls him, and they start talking, and Aaron just says, like, well, wait a minute, where are you right now? And Zach says, I'm at the facility. And Aaron's like, dude, what the hell are you doing there? Get out of there. Like, it's Friday night. You don't need to be there.

Get out of there. Like, you know, you're overdoing it. So they had that sort of relationship, which would facilitate Aaron helping Zach now. And so I would think that Aaron would be helping Zach every way he can.

I just can't say definitively whether or not it's happened over the last week and a half. Couple minutes left with Albert Breer here on The Rich Eisen Show. All right, Albert, the text you got from Jim Irsay, fresh off of his bus back in training camp days, it serves to bring it up again with Jonathan Taylor. We're not trading Jonathan. End of discussion, not now on July 29th and not in October. It is September.

I mean, I guess you can kind of shoehorn September in there as a possibility of a loophole, Albert. He's coming off a pop in about, what, 10 days. What's the state of affairs right there in Indy? I think that they would have to consider offers on him. You know, and I think the relationship is such where I think Chris Ballard and Shane Steichen really wanted to make it work. I think what the handling of last month and a half have proven to all of us is that at the level above those guys, the relationship might be irreparable, and it's like one very intelligent coach told me once about the advice that he gives the younger coaches is when you're looking at head coaching jobs, remember, the one thing you can't change is the owner. So I would say they're going to give phone calls, and that's just the way it works.

Everybody calls about everything. So they're going to get phone calls on Jonathan Taylor ahead of the trade deadline. And I would think that Chris Ballard and Shane Steichen are going to at least listen to those phone calls. And the same way, like, I think the Giants, if things don't go well over the next few weeks, might have to start listening on Saquon Barkley. I think the Giants have to look at.

I think the Colts would have to look at it realistically and say, if this guy is not going to be on our team for the next three years and somebody is offering us, say, a second round pick and something else, then that's something we seriously have to consider. And I look at a couple of teams like, can you imagine that Miami offense with Jonathan Taylor in it? Can you imagine what Buffalo would look like with Saquon Barkley? There are teams out there that could look at it and say, look at what Christian McCaffrey did for San Francisco last year. They made it to the NFC Championship game despite a really sideways quarterback situation. And one of the reasons why is because McCaffrey elevated them. I certainly think some teams could look at a Taylor or Barkley that way when we get to October. Yeah, I hear you.

I hear you on that one. That's an interesting food for thought right there, Albert Breer. Any Dion effect conversations you're hearing in the pros? I'm serious.

And in the pros at all, too soon or not at all? Everyone must be seeing what he's doing in Colorado and talking about it, Albert, right? Yeah. Well, let me take you through a few names. Okay. What do you think of the job Mike Vrabel's done? Great. What do you think of the job Dan Campbell's done? I see where you're going. What do you think of the job Kevin O'Connell's done? Okay.

You think D'Amico Ryans has great potential as a head coach? I see what you're saying. So plug that. I think the Jeff Saturday thing was probably like a bridge too far. As far as this idea goes.

Because he took him off of a fishing boat, you know what I mean? I don't want to get off the TV set. But seriously, here's my thought on it, Rich. And this is like a broader thought. But when I see Dion, that video of him, there was the make it personal thing, right? Yes. Look at every kid in that video. Where are their eyes?

They are locked in on Dion Sanders, right? You have kids. I have kids.

How hard is it to get this generation's attention that way? Seriously. That's a good one. That's true.

You know, like how hard? And Dion walked into that building. He had that automatically, Rich. Right.

You're already playing from a head, right? So that's the way I look at this. I told this story a couple of times over the last couple of weeks on this. But I remember having a conversation a few years ago with Mike McDaniel. And Mike is like one of the most self aware. People don't know that about him.

One of the most self aware people you could possibly imagine. And Mike has said to me, like, I have to be the smartest guy in the room to have a chance, you know, like the ex players don't. And so you're playing from a head.

And I do think that there's that element of it where this generation, it's really hard with this generation of player to capture the attention, the imagination of 53 of them at once. And so if you can do that, the minute you walk in the door, you're playing from a head. Now, you still have to make it work, right? You still have to prove to them that you're going to give them a good plan. You still have to prove to them that you're going to give them a plan to win as a group and to get rich individually, right?

But you still have to do that. But like with the ex players, like with this generation, it's like if you have name recognition and you could walk in and they know you've done it and they know you've sat in your seat. It's like I remember talking to Vrabel about this.

Like Vrabel can walk in that meeting room. And it's like every single guy in that meeting room, Rich, he's been that. He's been the guy trying to make the team. He's been the guy running down on kickoffs. He's been the All-Pro linebacker. He's been the veteran just trying to hang on at the end. He's been every one of them. So every one of them looks at him and says, he's been me, right? Outside of maybe the quarterbacks.

So, like, I think that there's a power to that, right? And you know as well as I do, because you work where I used to work. I remember walking into locker rooms with that NFL network, Mike Flagrich. And how many times have you walked in somewhere with that Mike Flag and you had a player say to you on the way out, tell Prime I said hello. Every one of them. Every one of them.

Every one of them. I mean, for one reason or another, like what I'm talking about with Vrabel and Campbell and Ryan and O'Connell, that exists to a different level with Deion. Like, they revere it. So, like, I think the effect is in the short term, it shows the advantage that an X player has. Not saying that the guys who didn't play can't do it, because obviously they can.

There's a lot of proof of that. But it does show, like, that that's an important thing. Like, that's an advantage you can have if you have an X player in there, right? So, in the short term, that's what it is. In the long term, I mean, the question I would ask is, is some owner going to back up the Brinks truck for Deion Sanders?

Well, it would take a Brinks truck and it would take handing the entire program off to him, because he, you know, in the same way that you just mentioned about, you know, 53 guys and professionals, he even said on this show last Friday, he doesn't maybe have any interest in even attempting that, that he loves where he is and he loves the kids and he loves that style of coaching. And by the way, before I let you go, you left off one thing you missed about Vrabel, Albert, is touchdown maker in the end zone, you know? That's right. That's right.

Red zone target. Before Hopkins joined the team, he led the entire organization in catches, you know? I know. I know. I know. That's right.

That's right. Albert, thanks for the time. Really appreciate it, brother. You got it, Rich.

That's at Albert Breer. Check him out. Check out everything he does. I do. You should as well. We'll take a break. T.J. Jefferson with fantasy football advice. That's next.

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Every single Wait for It Monday, wherever you listen. You told a story about the genesis of All Right. All right. Yes. All right. Here's where that comes from.

So days confused. Yes. Genius film. I'm in the right bar at the right time. And a guy goes, hey, you ever done any acting?

You might be right. Just right for this part. Legendary cast director and producer Don Phillips. I come back and they do what's called a makeup and wardrobe test, meaning they're shooting another scene one night. I'm just going to show up. Directors going to step off the set and come and look and go. Great.

I approve. Well, he comes and looks. He goes, Jesus, this is Wooderson. It's great. He goes, listen, you're not scheduled to work tonight, but we're over here at the top notch drive through.

And you think Wooderson might want to pick up on the redheaded intellectual. And I'm like, sure. And he goes, want to shoot it? I'm like, sure. So I go get in the car, shoot my first scene ever in a film of your career, of my career, and I had been listened to a lot of 70s rock and roll at that time. There was a certain live recording of a Jim Morrison concert in Amsterdam or somewhere where he barks the crowd. Alright, alright, alright, alright.

Four times real aggressively, though. I'm not thinking about that, but this comes back. So I'm in the car and I'm like, who's my man? I'm nervous about your act. Who's my man?

Who's Wooderson? I said, well, I'm about my car. And I go, well, I'm in my 70s Chevelle. There's one. I said, I'm about getting high. I said, well, Slater's riding shotgun.

You know, he's got a Dubois rolled up. There's two. I said, and I'm about rock and roll. I said, well, I got a new stranglehold in the eight track, man. There's three.

And I hear action and I look up and in my mind I go, and I'm about checks. I got three out of four. Let's go get the fourth. All right. All right. All right. Wow.

That was it. First words ever said on screen. Love that guy. And he's joining us in ten minutes to talk about his new children's book.

That'll be a lot of fun back here on the Rich Eisen show. Let's get to your fantasy advice. TJ Jefferson, as you always bring us every single week, weekly fantasy football updates sponsored by prize picks. Here is TJ Jefferson.

What do we got over there? Week three going to hit you with some picks, some people to start, some people to sit, some people to look out for right now. I got a friend of the show, a guy who sat in that guest chair a few months ago before he got drafted.

Rich, I got him as him. And that is Jordan Addison, wide receiver rookie from the Vikings going up against the Chargers right up the street here. I think this is going to be a shootout.

Let's be honest. I think every receiver from both teams is going to be a good play. But Jordan Addison is balling to me. He only has 11 targets, which is low, but he's got seven catches, 133 yards and two touchdowns. He's averaging 16.2 points per game.

If you're in a points per reception league. So look for Jordan Addison to have a great game this week. Now I tell you who to sit on the bench, even though this guy has been playing pretty well. And I think his new team is not this new team. He's a new quarterback for the team. And I think the fans are happy with him. But I'm going to advise you to maybe sit Jordan Love this week. He might not be him.

Wow. The reason being, look, he's thrown for 396 yards and six touchdowns. More importantly, he has zero picks on the season. But the thing is, Rich, we've talked about how good this New Orleans Saints defense is. They've shut down the Titans and the Panthers the last two weeks. And going back to last season in the past eight games, this defense has given up, well, it's not given up.

They've had nine picks against quarterbacks, and they've only allowed one quarterback to score more than one touchdown against them. So my advice to you would be sit Jordan Love. He ain't him this week.

Let me just jump in before you finish. Aaron Jones is back at practice today, but Christian Watson, who returned Wednesday, is not back out there today. So he might not be ready to go for a third straight week.

Sorry, just wanted to jump in with the latest on that. I have Jordan Love on my team. He's my backup quarterback.

I like the way he's playing. I just sit him on the bench this week. And a guy I want to look out for, because he might be him coming up. He's still on the IR from an abdominal injury.

Keep your eye on, and if you have enough room, maybe stash him. Jeff Wilson running back for the Dolphins. Look, Mike McDaniel loves Jeff. He, even though we're here most of it, I told you last week, he might be him, and he put up a great, great game. I just have a feeling, and that's what fantasy football is about. Sometimes you've got to go with the feeling. I feel Jeff Wilson is someone, when he comes back, he's going to be worked into that rotation of Dolphins running back.

So I'm going to tell you, if you have a chance, stash him, put him to the side, and when he comes back, he might pay dividends for you. All right, I kind of dig that one. That's TJ Jefferson's fantasy football advice and update, sponsored by PrizePix, the number one daily fantasy sports app.

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Visit prizepix.com for restrictions and details. Mark in New York City. Let's sneak your phone calling before the end of the hour. What's up, Mark? Hey Rich, how are you doing? What's on your mind? I got about a minute for you. What do you got for me? Oh, okay.

I just want to do a quick, what's more likely to be okay? Mm-hmm. Okay, after eight games, will we have more undefeated teams or more winless teams? After halfway through the season? Yes. I think we'll end up having more undefeated teams halfway through the season.

Really? Yes, I will. I will say that at some point.

I mean, and I should say this, and I appreciate the call, Mark. There are some dumpster fires that appear to be forming right now, but whoever wins Dallas versus San Francisco probably is going to stay undefeated. The Eagles, if they win this coming season, coming Monday night, they have an interesting run that could keep them undefeated, although there's Miami in week seven.

Baltimore, as you know, I think has an opportunity to stay undefeated for a while. So I'll say that there's an opportunity. That'll be interesting. File that one away, Chris. I like that one. File that one away, TJ.

Mike, you can do whatever you want. Matthew McConaughey joining us at the top of the next hour. That's just five minutes away.

And then my top five college football games of the weekend and so much more. Mika Fitzpatrick has also chimed in. All right. All right.

All right. Mika is talking about being called a dirty player after his hit on Nick Chubb. Yeah, that was unfortunate. That's the latest there.

These hits in these games are so bang bang. Like to assume when you're watching in slow motion, oh, he had an agenda. Come on, man. Well, Sap sent me a video of him reviewing the film, which we can't show for two reasons. One, we can't show NFL footage. Right.

And two, it's not safe for work the way that Sap was explaining it. But as you know, Warren, when he was here two days ago, said that this was not a dirty hit by Mika Fitzpatrick. And he explains exactly why in this video.

And I'll do my best to paraphrase. Oh, good. Yeah.

I was listening to Chris Long's pod yesterday at the gym. And it's the same deal. He said it's not a dirty play, so I'm going to trust those guys' words. Well, it's not just again, it's just a tease. I don't want to give it away now. I'll give it away later before we're done on this program today. All right. That makes sense. All right.

Yes. I can't wait to chat with Matthew McConaughey. You know, when I first moved to LA in 99, I went to one of these big Beverly Hill parties, Beverly Hills parties. And like, as I'm trying to get into this house, a guy comes walking out, hair slicked back, suit on, looking just cleaner than the billboard to help, and it was Matthew McConaughey, and he walked by me.

And I'll be honest with you guys, I was starstruck. You know that would never happen now. You know why? Why is that? You're a hermit. He doesn't leave his house. He doesn't go on. Bingo.

It's got nothing to do with McConaughey. It's a you. It's a you. See, he's like, Hey guys, it's Suzy Shuster, and I am so excited for my new podcast coming out this fall It is called What The Football With Suzy Schuster and the Princess of Darkness. Amy Trask, if you're looking for a new podcast to listen to about jargon, heavy legged waste benders, this is not for you. We're going to have big girl conversations when we are going super deep to bring you weekly guests that you won't find anywhere else. It is What the Football with Suzy Schuster and Amy Trask wherever you listen.