REShow: Tom Pelissero - Hour 1

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DJ Mikey Diaz and Deez Nuts is back in the chair. How are you? Good morning rich. TJ Jefferson the candle is lit. It's lit at CM Punk pipe bomb anniversary day rich and if you're a wrestling fan you know what I'm talking about.

And if you're not that sounded completely Greek to me. What is it again today? CM Punk's pipe bomb day. The day he dropped one of the greatest promos in the history of wrestling actually had the shirt on with the entire promo here. Oh it is very good. It's a monumental day of wrestling. That's quite a lot of copy on that shirt.

Not a copy. We don't understand things in this world. We don't understand things in this world when they're down the middle.

When they're normal. I think that's the way things go in this world. We see it sometimes with our style. The way we talk on this program that we're not blowtorching somebody who says something in sports.

Or does something as a coach or a manager somewhere blowtorch the place. And we also you know give a nuanced take with the exception of Brandon Miller saying Paul George is the goat. That for me took him off the board.

You had to draw the line right? Charlotte chose him second overall anyway in the draft last Thursday. But I start my commentary on Damian Lillard that way. Because if he doesn't think that his current situation in Portland Oregon will lead to a championship this year. This year.

If it doesn't happen this year. Then why in the world isn't he out there on Twitter on Instagram doing his thing to say I want the hell out of here and forcing that situation on the Blazers to force them to send him to a place where he will have a better chance of winning a championship this year. Why isn't he screaming it from the rooftops? Why isn't he pulling to use a 70s analogy a full on Howard Beal I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore going to his window and screaming it out there and telling the Blazers front office. And the general manager Joe Cronin I'm out. And in the NBA when a player of his stature says I'm out guess what happens that player gets out.

How in the world is he not doing this? And then when the Blazers make a statement yesterday saying that they met with him and his agent Aaron Goodwin Joe Cronin the Blazers general manager with a three sentence statement straight out of the Belichick playbook. I met with Dame and Aaron Goodwin this afternoon.

We had a great dialogue. We remain committed to building a winner around Dame. That's it.

And clearly that's not everything right because Lillard had to have demanded a trade in that. Set to write it had to be a set to it's not just like let's sit down and go. Okay, what are your plans? Do you have plans? I think I think we have plans.

Jerry Seinfeld that marriage is a prison. Do you talk about your day? How was your day today? Do you have a good day today? Yes, Joe. I had a good day today.

How was your day today? Is that the way it went? Because we're sitting here thinking there has to be some sort of fire brimstone demand threat. And then Brian Winhorse goes on the worldwide leader in sports today and says Lillard actually said to the Blazers he's willing to play this thing out right now. Like you said. He's willing to play it out. See what you got.

Not putting any threats on you to put pressure. You do your business in free agency and we'll see how it lands with me. But you do your thing. I'll do my thing which is being Damian Lillard and keeping on showing up to the facility and practicing and getting better and being in shape for a huge season for me and just being a great Oregonian. And everybody in the world that does this for a living, I don't know how they know how to handle it. Like really? You're just going to be normal?

And let a professional handle it? Now Sam Amick of The Athletic says Dame has a plan. The Blazers re-sign Jeremy Grant and go get Draymond Green next week.

And that's what Damian likes. And if Sam Amick's hearing that then maybe that was placed in front of Aaron Goodwin's plate who then calls up Joe Cronin and is like I think we need to meet. Let's have a talk. All three of us.

Okay. And that's the way things apparently stand with all due respect to Harden and anybody else that's in the mix including Draymond. The one guy who is potentially in play next week. Biggest guy. Biggest name out there that's in play. Give me another one.

Is there another one? Is Jalen Brown potentially in play next week? Seems unlikely. And this could be as unlikely as Jalen Brown in play next week. I mean Kyrie's a free agent. I don't know.

Are you going to get Austin Reeves? This is it. So that's where things stand. There was a meeting.

Three sentences come out of it. And Lillard's willing to play this out and maybe he's willing to play it out as I said all the way through to next trade deadline when he taps his wrist at the front office and says it's now time for Dame to leave. Or he's tapping his wrist saying it's Dame time to the rest of the Western Conference that I told you I could do it here and I believed in the front office and the contents of that Monday June 26th conversation will just remain private.

Amazing how things could be just normally, quietly, professionally level headed in this day and age. Who knew? It can happen.

I don't know. I just don't believe any of it. I get it. I get it. That goes back to our convo last week, Rich.

You know the nuanced take against the hot take, scorched earth against the, we'll wait and see. Well because in the NBA you get your way if you're Damian Lillard and you just have to state your way. And the way it's normally stated is I want out.

And you've got to let me go because that's the way it works in the NBA. Contract schmon. Schmon-tract?

Schmon-tract. Whatever. So that's the way things stand right there. First up on this program is Tom Pelissero, frequent guest host of this show. And my colleague from the NFL media group.

I do believe we're going to catch him on the putting green prior to a round with him, Ian Rappaport and Mike Garofolo. Wow. Yes.

All three of them together. NFL network open? I don't know.

Interesting. You know, you just like to stand there and go, what do you got a seven iron and eight iron or Dalvin Cook News? What do you got? What's in your hand?

Hey, you got about 156 in and where's DHOP going? You guys know I'm not a big golfer. Are you allowed to be on your phone while you're golfing?

It's frowned upon. And in some cases you get a letter in your locker. I don't know whose course it is. I think it's probably Ian's course, I think. We'll find out all this information.

We're going to get this information from the information man. Tom Pelissero, who with Garofolo is on Good Morning Football this week at the breakfast table on NFL network. Tom's been hoodies the last two days. Today he is not. He's wearing something quite out there.

I saw the teal hoodie yesterday. He and the rest of the breakfast table welcomed Tyler Conklin of the New York Jets yesterday, tight end, and asked him if there was room for Dalvin Cook in their locker room. And he said absolutely there's room.

Bring them. That gets tweeted out today. And even though it happened yesterday, Dalvin Cook saw it this morning. And Paul Andrew Esden Jr., who I know of because he frequently aggregates a lot of our Jets material here. And this just in, I'm a 54-year-old cheerleader, so there's a lot of Jets talk here. Paul is a diehard Jets fan. Getting a shout out here today.

Well done, Paul. He tweeted this out. Oh baby, of course he's very excited at the notion that Dalvin Cook could come to the Jets. Dalvin Cook retweets it with two 100 emojis.

Now let me just say this. What does that mean? That's what I'm saying.

Here's what it means. He's into the idea. He likes the idea.

Dalvin. Or there's room. He agrees that there's also room for me? There's room for anybody who wants to win a Super Bowl, is what Conklin said. And maybe that's what he's saying.

But also, I would imagine he'd say, I'll go to the Jets. Even though Breece Hall's coming back from a knee injury. Even though there's Michael Carter there.

There's some reps to be had, but there's not like Bell Cow reps to be had. You're not getting 20 touches in that room. Probably not.

Probably not. And as you know, if Breece Hall is healthy, the one who should get the 20 touches is Breece Hall. He good.

And if he comes back looking like he did before his knee got blown out in Denver last year, he is an Otani-like home run hitter. Go ahead 26 last night. Judge in. Alright, you know, unbelievable, right? I'll throw judge in just to be a New Yorker.

And a polar bear. Thank you. Okay. I understand there's two teams in New York, and the Mets are the ones associated with the Jets. Okay.

So, I will just say this. I don't know the cap ramifications. I don't know what Cook is willing to take to join a team like the Jets. But if I am the New York Jets, and I'm looking around and I'm seeing hard knocks coming knocking on my door, and I'm like, who dis? New door, who dis?

They see the Mount Laurel, New Jersey area code on their phone and sent straight to voicemail. And I understand that you don't want that coming to your house or whatever, but you made the splashiest splash of this non-playing season. You made the splashiest splash in the NFL since Brady was signed by Tampa. You made one of the splashiest splashes that New York sports has seen in quite some time. And you, to use a famous Jim Fossil Giants head coach phrase, you pushed all the chips to the center of the table to get that chip. And Aaron Rodgers is coming in, and he's 39, and we have no idea how long he's going to be there.

None at all. I am hoping as a 54-year-old cheerleader that he will decide, love it here. Love the Tony Awards, love all the tickets I'm getting at MetLife concert series, whatever the hell's going on with him, with Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift.

Love the reservations. I'm sure he's dining fine in New York. I'm sure he loves it, loves it there. He's going to win enough games this year, maybe not a Super Bowl, but win enough games this year. Maybe he does win the Super Bowl.

Maybe he is picking confetti out of his hair in the canyon of viewers. But in order to do that, you've got to keep making splashes. And if Dalvin Cook is 100 plus 100 on Twitter, and I know you love when I talk that way, TJ, if he's out there saying it, you go knock on his door and say, Dalvin, what do you think? Because if the Jets show up to your town and the Jets show up to their stadium with Aaron Rodgers and Garrett Wilson and Corey Davis and Randall Cobb and Allen Lazard, who they got. And also Breece Hall and Dalvin Cook and Tyler Conklin.

Yes, indeed. And the rest of the tight end group and Tony Award nominated producer CJ Uzama. OK. And the defense and Salah and they come to your town with that team. That's a pretty damn good team.

And it's better than the team that doesn't have Dalvin Cook. So you keep reinforcing. The fact that you are all in there, you have absolutely cannonballed into the NFL pool of 2023, and you don't want a piece of the pond. And in order to avoid the pond and stay in a pool, you keep adding, keep going. You're pot committed.

In Flowery Branch, New Jersey. So I'm seeing Dalvin Cook say this, figure out the touches. That's Nathaniel Hackett's issue. And you don't think Aaron Rodgers would say, oh, OK, so you're that aggressive. You're getting Dalvin Cook on top of Allen Lazard, on top of everybody that I went and didn't give you a list for, but told you my preference for you to go get to make me feel comfortable. You're bringing Dalvin Cook in here. Oh, maybe I will continue to eat right and sip the proper tea and go out there and stay till I'm forty two, forty three, forty four and show Brady.

You're not the only one that could do it after turning 40. Let's go. Go get him.

Joe Douglas, go get him. That's my two cents on that one. I like that. I like that for you. Let's take a break.

Let's see how realistic it is. Tom Pelosaro is going to join us also on this program. Lil Rel Howery is in studio hour number three. We talked about The Outlaws with Adam Devine last Friday. Lil Rel is in this film on Netflix as well. That is streaming a couple of Fridays from now, July 7th.

Also on the show, Kevin Van Valkenburg, formerly of ESPN, now of No Laying Up. A site dedicated towards the sport of golf. The Athletic got the fine print, got the six page document that the PGA Tour signed with the live tour. The agreement.

Piff. Piff with the Saudis. And sure enough, the fine print says essentially the Saudis didn't buy us. We actually got the Saudis to drop their lawsuit with us and essentially let us decide what to do with the live tour. And all they get is, you know, seated a four man table where we own three seats. They just give us their money, a couple of sponsorship rights, and off we go. That's about what I'm reading and there's not many other details to it.

So how does this work? Did the Saudis really drop the live tour just to get a couple of sponsorship rights and the right to be the lone investor in a new business model for the PGA Tour? Did that happen? Kevin Van Valkenburg will let us know in our number two. But Tom Pelissero, apparently from a practice putting green in New York State with my two other NFL Network information compadres. Do we just pass the phone around and see if their information matches? Absolutely.

Like telephone. It's going to be fun. Tom Pelissero when we come back.

We'll be right back. What would they do? They detain you and get people on the phone and then they finally let you go to your modeling job. How many times does it happen? Once or twice. It just seems like it wouldn't happen.

It happens, yeah. Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum, wherever you listen. Back here on the Rich Eisen Show, 844-204 Rich, number to dial. Tom Pelissero is again going to join us in about two minutes time. Tom knows how this works.

He knows how it works. We come back from break. We're on Roku for just a bit. Yeah, we talk for us.

We talk for a little bit. And then we save, you know, once we're back with the radio audience or big audience together. He knows how this works.

So I'm looking at, again, this is a re-air that's on NFL Network right now. It's like a blue Paisley shirt. He's got over... The hoodie he's got on. Is it a hoodie today? Oh, yesterday it was a hoodie. Yeah. The clip with Conklin was the hoodie.

Yeah. That was yesterday. It's just Dalvin Cook just retweeted it today. Oh, I see.

You didn't see that until today. Dalvin was busy. Dalvin's busy. Dalvin's busy.

And again, go get him. Better with you than the Dolphins. And also, if you get the Dolphins to overpay, great. Great.

What's it to you? Give him a shot. You tell your locker room that we're here to continue. You show Aaron Rodgers, we're after him, by the way. Hey, Aaron, go enjoy whatever concert series is next in MetLife. You know, go see Wicked again if you want. Wicked again.

Apparently that's the first one he saw. He saw Wicked and then he saw Uzama's play, which is called Ain't No Mo. Ain't No Mo.

That's so funny. It's Ain't No Mo. It's just a funny name.

Ain't No Mo. It's not funny. It's just funny when I say it. Just come out and say it.

TJ, just come out and say it. It's funny. Is it funny on its own or it's funny when I say it? I mean, can both things be true? No.

They can. I'm just talking about the play Ain't No Mo. Ain't No Mo.

Is it Mo apostrophe or is it apostrophe? Yeah, that's a good question. How is it?

I don't know. Back here on The Rich Eisen Show, 844-204-rich number to dial. We're on The Rich Eisen Show radio network sitting at The Rich Eisen Show desk furnished by Grainger.

With supplies and solutions for every industry, Grainger is the right product for you. Call clickgrainger.com or just stop by. Let's get to it, everybody. Here he is back here on the show from the NFL network, NFL media group, Tom Pelissero. How are you, Tom? Doing great, Rich. Currently driving, well, I'm not driving like you're a photo is.

We're working our way through a driving rainstorm to meet Ian Rappaport at his golf course in, what do we call that upstate New York, Mike? Rye, New York. Question.

Rye. Okay. So we'll see how exactly all this shakes out for us. But if we're playing in what we're currently sitting in, I don't have enough layers on to survive. Well, I don't think the heavy stuff's coming down for a few hours, Tom.

So it's impressive. Wow. Garofolo's all in on this or is he just like driving, you know, somewhat reluctantly as I would? I don't want to play golf in a rainstorm. I don't want to do that. Well, we also have a tee time tomorrow and I think that Mike and I have already made the decision that we will not be showing up for that one. We're going to suck it up for Ian because he can't come meet us halfway. We've got to go all the way to him, of course. And yeah, we hope there appears to be a break on the radar about 1.30 p.m. today.

And we hope to get this thing. OK, very good. Very good. So that's golf and weather together with Tom Pelissero here on the Rich Eisen Show. So Calvin Cook retweeted your chit chat with Conklin yesterday. Tom, did you see that? I did not notice that Delvin had retweeted it, but I'm not surprised.

You know, everybody is closely monitoring his social media activity at this point. Those two guys are really close to Delvin and Conklin had lockers right next to each other. So they got really close during their days in Minnesota. It would make a lot of sense for the Jets to be in that mix, especially because, you know, at this point, we'll see whether or not three songs ready for week one. If he ends, it's hard to imagine that they're going to cut them loose and carry them all 25 times. You got a really difficult first six games on the schedule.

You know, they maybe have a little bit of money to play with here. Add one more playmaker to that team. And Delvin Cook is that rare free agent in June. You know, nothing against DeAndre Hopkins, but he's a free agent because he's been hurt the last couple of years. He served his suspension. He's 32 years old. Delvin is coming off four straight thousand yard seasons, four straight Pro Bowl appearances.

He's 27. This is the rare opportunity for some team to add a bona fide difference maker at this stage in the game. And the Jets are certainly not alone in that regard. There's a bunch of teams that are going to be in on this. You know, exactly when Delvin makes his decision and where the fit and the money are going to be right. Yeah, but so who's got the cap space and the desire to pay Delvin Cook anything remotely close to what the Vikings decided was too rich for them?

Tom. Cap space is what you make it. Really, there's always, you know, teams generally speaking, unless you're really pressed, you can go to the piggy bank. You got some of those guys on big base salaries and to add somebody who's a unique type of player, like a Delvin Cook, you can free up that money.

Just do a cap conversion, convert a base salary to a signing bonus and prorate it. You know, if you're going to go all in and try to win a Super Bowl right now, this is the type of guy that you would do it for. So, I mean, just like within the AFC, I would fairly say you can make a case that the only team in that division that should not be in the Delvin Cook sleep stakes is the one that employs his brother in Buffalo. You know, the Patriots would make sense. Miami has been debated a lot.

That would certainly make sense. And the Jets as well. And those are not the only teams. You still got the Broncos. You know, they're a team that, do they have the money to get into the neighborhood? What Delvin Cook is going to command on the market? It's hard to imagine where they've invested at that position and elsewhere.

And they really did, you know, push to make some other things happen in terms of finding that offensive line. All right. Oh, I got Tom.

That's what happens when you're driving through a golf community. All right. Let's try and get him back on.

Yeah. You there, Tom? I am here. Okay, very good. Really coming down now, Rich.

I've been stuck up and down for a while. I'll try to talk as clearly as I can. But I'm doing a weather report out here. We see a westerly wind coming about 35 miles per hour.

Large puddles down here. And then we got the George Washington Parkway. What are we on? We're on the Deegan. The Deegan Parkway.

The van pulled over. That just might be ancillary. Anyway, go on. Honestly, again, put me on speakerphone for a second. Can you pop me on speaker, Tom?

Yeah, I'll pop you on speaker. Here we go. Hey. Can you hear anything here, Rich? Mike. It's really hitting us hard.

Okay, real quick. Garofalo, you don't want to do this. You don't want to be driving in the rain in a major Deegan and go play golf with Rappaport when you know there's no golf that's going to happen. You can't be happy about this, Mike.

You can't. We're hearing that there's actually not weather up in Rye, which doesn't make much sense. This is ridiculous. This is an absolute monsoon. And we're only 14 miles away at this point. So we're doing this in a blind leap of faith right here. It's not just raining.

It is a monsoon right now. Come on, Mike. I'd probably not be talking and driving right now. Okay. All right. All right. Be well, Mike.

Drive safely. My gosh. My gosh.

I mean, honestly, maybe this is like Rappaport's plan to be the only information person on NFL Network at this point in time. Oh, goodness. It looks like George Costanza's in-laws. We are currently driving to a non-existent cabin in the Poconos on his way to L.A. to have some negotiations.

Trying to get those Cheever letters. Oh, my gosh. All right. So what's the timing on all this? Because clearly, as we pointed out, it's golf season right now in the NFL. So what's the timing on all this with Calvin, do you think, Tom?

Well, and that's what I was saying, I think, when we lost each other there. But, you know, there's four weeks until training camp and I don't know. I mean, I do not believe that that's really a hard deadline in the mind of Dalvin Cooker's agent.

You know, they think they're forward to be patient here. The best money may come when teams realize that maybe their rookies aren't ready or maybe there's an injury that happened. But this is also not a situation where, you know, he doesn't have offers. I mean, Dalvin Cook has multiple offers right now and he's going to command a significant contract. I don't think he's taking a big discount to go back to Miami or anyplace else.

But he's in control here, again, because he's just that rare player that transcends the market. Guys like this just don't become available in June. So, you know, if I had to guess, I would say we probably have an answer prior to the start of training camp, but that's no guarantee. You know, he well could take this into August if he wants to and take some mileage off his body.

Well, I mean, maybe I'll push back a little bit here, but you've got your ear to the ground way tighter than I do. Maybe June is the time for guys like this to become available in the running back position from now on. Maybe we're watching a watershed moment. I don't mean to use that word while you're driving in a monsoon, but maybe we are seeing a figurative watershed moment here where Dalvin Cook's available, as Zeke Elliott's been available, as Leonard Fournette, who was on the show when you were sitting in here along with Dalvin Cook, is available. Kareem Hunt is available. Saquon Barkley can't get the figure he wants from the Giants right now. Maybe we're seeing something, Tom, at this position.

What do you think? Well, I mean, there definitely could be some drama, especially when you get to those franchise tag guys. The one that nobody's talking about is Josh Jacobs, you know, the reigning NFL rushing champion. You know, at this point, if there's not a long-term deal, and I believe I mentioned this when I was hosting last week, I don't anticipate Josh Jacobs being there at the start of training camp, but I don't know that he shows up week one. You know, with Saquon Barkley, he's also mused about potentially sitting out. That one's a little harder to believe, in part because there have been negotiations.

They've talked about different contract structures. The Giants are motivated to try to get this thing done, but, you know, neither of those guys have signed the franchise tender, only Tony Pollard has, and so you can't find Saquon or Josh Jacobs for not showing up. And then with, you know, a guy like Dalvin Cook, you know, the one thing that you have to always wonder here is, at some point, you know, you've got however many teams are involved on Dalvin Cook.

Let's call it a half dozen right now. At some point, some of those teams might pivot and say, you know what, we just can't afford to wait and miss out on one of these other guys. Maybe we'll sign Kareem Hunt for three, four million instead of signing Dalvin for seven or eight.

That would be the uncontrollable part of this. But there's also nobody, you know, same aside the franchise tag guys, there's nobody else who's in the category of Dalvin Cook as a playmaker and a home run hitter. He's got that, as he told us on the show last week, he's got that other shoulder fixed now. He feels like, you know, that really did hamper him the past few seasons.

So you might be getting the best version of Dalvin Cook that we've seen to date. Tom Palacier, a couple minutes left with him as Mike Garofalo is driving through the wind shear of the Major Degan in New York City right now as they go try to meet Ian Rappaport for a golf outing that is absolutely going to get rained out right here on The Rich Eisen Show. It is lightening up. It is lightening up here, Rich. Look at us. We've seen across the Rubicon back there.

We still got a drizzle. Mike says when we got on the hutch, that's really where it's going to turn. That's famous. It's 18 minutes, 10 miles to go. I think we've got a shot here.

The famous low front of the hutch on New York City right here on The Rich Eisen Show. Okay, your tweet about Brock Purdy yesterday going to throw in Florida under the watchful eye of coaches and doctors. Is he going to start week one? Is that really possible for Brock Purdy and the Niners as we're standing here talking or sitting here talking on the final Monday of June?

Everything is trending right now, Rich, for Brock Purdy being ready for the regular season. And the question is just what's going to become, how comfortable are the 49ers with putting them out there? And that's going to depend in part on how he looks through the course of training camp and how much he can handle. He started throwing roughly a month ago, and he's been ramping it up since. He just got out to Jacksonville to work with Will Hewlett and Tom Gormley yesterday. And those guys, they worked with Brock before the draft. They ran Anthony Richardson's pre-draft prep this year. It's not just about continuing his rehab, but also working on his mechanics as he moves forward here.

You wouldn't be doing that. You wouldn't be putting a two-week throwing program in late June and early July if you didn't feel really good about the direction that things are going. And Kyle Shanahan said recently, last time he was asked about it, that yes, he believes right now there's optimism that Brock Purdy is going to be ready to go. And I think that sometimes I get even lost on this just because come playoff time and down the stretch of the season, I'm underwater with coaching searches and eventually the Senior Bowl and other things. But you go back and look what Brock Purdy did last year.

The numbers are just, it's unbelievable. I want to say he had 16 touchdown passes, only four picks. He was 7-0 until he hurt the elbow in the NFC Championship game. He played at a really, really high level on a 49ers team that doesn't entirely have to rely upon the quarterback to carry them. You know, as Kyle Shanahan said recently, talking about the quarterback room with Sam Darnell and Trey Lance, they like all those guys, but there's one guy who they know could do it, and that's Brock Purdy, Mr.

Irrelevant, who made himself very irrelevant by playing down the stretch after the injuries last season, performing at a really high level and putting himself in a position where if he's healthy and if the 49ers are comfortable from a medical perspective, I absolutely expect him to be the week one starter. All right, last one for you. And since it's drizzling now, I'll throw this one out to Garofolo, so pop me on speaker phone once again. All right, hold on one second.

There we go, very good. Again, Tom Passero. All right, Mike Garofolo driving, and in the passenger seat, Tom Passero. I'll start with you, Mike. Talking to all of your sources and all your people, which is the one team that you're hearing folks saying look out for that nobody's talking about? Which one keeps getting mentioned to you or some of your sources like, tell me about that team because I'm concerned about them, or they're trying to mine you for information to see if this team is in fact for real. You got one for me?

Both of you. Well, a lot of folks are telling me and saying you guys are not showing enough respect to the Green Bay Packers, right? Because we have our doubts as to whether you can move on from a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback. So that is one thing that I have been told, expect them to be competitive, this notion that they're just going to fall off a cliff, especially with Matt Leflore, who's an excellent head coach.

That I've been coached up to keep talking about and say, hey, you'll look smart once the quarterback plays well. Over in the AFC, now this team is being talked about, but so many people are impressed with Mike McDaniel and what the Dolphins are doing and the talent that they have on the roster that, you know, and I know we're focused on the Jets so much and certainly the Buffalo Bills. I guess you could say we're not talking enough about the Dolphins, but they get enough run as well. If you're talking about different calibers or different levels, like I don't know that we're looking at Green Bay as a Super Bowl candidate, but that's the team that maybe could thrust in the playoff contention. I'm putting the Dolphins in that a playoff possible team who could thrust themselves even higher into that Super Bowl caliber conversation. And the part about the Packers is because Jordan Love, there's a lot of good conversation coming out of that camp that they really like what they're seeing, that we might see a seamless transition when it comes to that position.

Really? Yeah, I think a lot of, I know a lot of people are impressed with what they saw from him last year. He was a different quarterback when he came into that Philadelphia game, the way that he was kind of able to see things and process things a lot quicker than we had seen in the past. And look, honestly, the external conversation on Love to me has been more impressive from those who are impressed with how far he's come to Green Bay when they've kind of tamped it down. And when I talked to people there, they said, we didn't know for sure we had a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback in Aaron Rodgers when we moved off of Brett Favre. We felt pretty good about it. We also don't know that we have a really good quarterback for sure in Jordan, but we feel really good about it. So that helped them make the move from Aaron to Jordan. So yeah, it's kind of funny how Green Bay wants the lower expectations. Especially in the outside, saying, hey, that guy looks really good.

Like he's really come a long way the last couple of years just by sitting. All right. Thank you, Mike Garofolo.

Now, Tom, it's your turn. Tom Pelosaro, I'll give you the same question with the sources that you speak to telling you this team, nobody's talking about enough, or hey, what do you know about them? Because I'm getting a little nervous that they might actually be as good as I'm hearing.

What do you got for me on that front? I mean, this is a team that made the playoffs last year, but I don't think that there's been enough discussion about the L.A. Chargers just because of how talented he's in the league view that roster to be. Now, you know, they are in transition. They brought in Kellen Mortar on the offense. We know the numbers that Kellen Mortar's offenses in Dallas have put up. And I know that, you know, there's this hyper focus on what happened in the playoff game last year against Jackson. I can't help when they let the lead slip away here, but, you know, that kind of has overshadowed the fact that, you know, in my opinion, Brandon Staley was a coach of the year candidate a year ago. I mean, you look at the games that they won and yes, they've got Justin Herbert is a really bright young quarterback, but they did it with, you know, their top three receivers were almost never all healthy at the same time. You had the left tackle where Sean Slater is one of the best young offensive linemen in the game, missed almost the entire season, J.P. Jackson, who they gave a boatload of money to in free agency, basically missed the entire season. Derwin James was beat up, Joey Bosa missed a whole bunch of time without some of their best players.

I mean, just think of that list. You're almost getting a bunch of extra free agents or draft picks back on a team that somehow still last year won 10 games and now brings on an offensive coordinator who's really got a strong track record within the NFL. You know, they still got to get through the Chiefs. As Brandon Staley pointed out when I had him on your show last week, you know, they played the Chiefs stuff. I mean, if you look at their their history against them since they've been there over two seasons, you know, they've they've given Kansas City some really good games here. So does that mean that they can potentially take them down in the AFC West? Can they push for the AFC Conference championship? That all remains to be seen just because, you know, the piece like Patrick Mahomes there deserve to be the Super Bowl favorite pretty much every season from now until his 40th birthday. But if you just look at what they've got on paper and I didn't even mention the draft where they, you know, added to that basketball room, they got the wide receiver room.

It's it's a really impressive group. And I wouldn't be surprised at all if Chargers-Chiefs continues to be one of the epic, epic budding rivalries in the NFL. Yeah, that's a good one. That is a good one. Yeah.

Chiefs-Chargers first game is week seven when the Chargers are at Kansas City. All right. Thanks. Thanks.

Tell Mike thanks for for for driving and talking and getting you to this point safely. Who's the fourth? Do we know who the fourth is for the for the round with Ian Rappaport and you two guys?

Who's the fourth? I don't know that Ian has any other friends, so I'm guessing we're just a threesome today. But I just say the rain, the rain now, we are down to just a trickle. OK. I think we are escaping it.

So yeah. So appreciate you you making this drive a little more interesting. OK. What's up to the boys in the studio? We'll see you guys already and hopefully I'm back out there. We'll see you soon. Thanks for the time. Thanks.

Thank you. Thank Mike for me, too. That's that's Tom Pelissero sitting shotgun. Mike Garofolo driving on their way to meet Ian Rappaport for golf. And it's a rainy New York day right here on the Rich Eisen show. That went well.

Nice. Because Tom told me last night, I think he's going to be on the putting green. I had no idea that they pushed the tee time. Glad everyone made it safely. White knuckling. Boy, white knuckling through the rain on the major Degan, that is dicey territory. There's a lot of puddling.

Certainly, if you're driving in the edges, because, you know, you can hydroplane, they'll be. Oh, I don't need that. No, no, no. That would be a disaster. Yeah.

That's not even a good that's not even a good fantasy name, hydroplaning Garofolo. Or is it? How was your day today? All right. We'll take a break right here on the Rich Eisen show. Don't go anywhere. Eight four four two oh four. Rich number to dial. Kevin Van Valkenburg will be joining us at the top of the next hour.

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Hutchinson River Parkway. Long story short, Tom sent you a photograph? He did. Yeah.

He sent TJ and I a photo. Oh, I'm on the piano mindless. Oh, there it is. It looks good. Oh, that's clear.

That looks like rye to me. That's clear. I just hope that this proper drainage on Ian's golf course, words I never said before, no hints of irony.

I hope Ian's golf course is proper drainage. He loved the fact that he didn't have a fourth when he said that. Now, let me ask you a question. No.

Wouldn't you want to know if I invite you to play who the fourth is? Yes. You wouldn't get in the car without knowing.

I would be like, oh, what's our group? Right. And unless it's somebody that, you know, you consider, what's the word for it, a chooch? Chooch. Okay.

You'd play with this individual, right? Of course. Correct.

Choochs are not... Certainly if I'm buying for the day. Absolutely.

If I'm buying with them, I'd say, are you going to at least make the reach when it's time to tip the caddy? Right. Right?

And Ian's got to be like, I got this. Yeah. It's his course. His course. Right. But you wouldn't...

I mean, I'd want to know who the fourth is. In the same way that, remember we asked Larry David, somebody offers you tickets to a game. Where are they? You have to ask where they are. You have to map it. Right?

You got to map it. He agreed. They're in 308. Thank you. I got this.

I got this. We were looking for that the other day. What is that labeled? What is that labeled? What is that labeled? The exact commercial.

Alligator arms. It's not that hard to find. Back here on the Rich Eisen Show.

844204. It's numbered it down. I think Jay Felley typed in Geico and couldn't find it.

It's the alligator arms. No, we just saw some expert driving or heard expert driving. Heard expert driving. We didn't see it.

We didn't see it. We heard Mike Garafolo driving Tom Pelissera through a rainstorm to meet Ian Rappaport to play golf. So you just heard excellent driving.

Well guess what? Here on the Roku channel, you're going to see excellent driving. You're going to see excellent driving because Roku and the sports experience here on Roku have now been kicked up a notch. Today, on this very day, it was announced that Roku's first live rights sports deal has been completed Formula E along with partners CBS and Paramount Plus right here on the Roku platform. You're going to start seeing Formula E racing coming in 2024 right here on the Roku platform.

And I couldn't be more excited about it for a couple reasons. One, we love being on the Roku channel and planting a flag here to say sports can be seen here, not just Formula E, but you want to see pretty much every damn sport with a ball or a puck or anything else. You can check it out right here on the Roku platform as more and more people are streaming right here on the Roku platform. Very excited to now see that Roku is going to have a live sports aspect to it and it's going to keep growing.

It's just not just us anymore. And the reason why I also love it is because anybody that's been watching this show on the Roku channel since last September knows Formula E has been sitting right here the entire time. Formula Eizen.

That's what the E stands for, right? Oh, wait, no, I'm being told these are electric vehicles that are racing. OK. Oh, wow. Wow.

It's still an exciting day. Five races per season on CBS, the prior deal with Formula E. And you can also stream it on Paramount Plus. Roku will stream 11 races per season right here on the Roku channel.

And both Paramount Plus and the Roku channel races will be accessible through Roku's recently launched sports experience, which everybody who watches us already knows about because of the first Formula E. Now then. Do we sponsor a car? Yes or no? Yes.

I mean, that's mandatory. OK. Obvious. What goes on?

What goes on in the car? The logo. That's what the running man.

That's without saying. That's a hood. That's on the hood. That's on the hood. On the hood. What else we got? R.E.S.

consulting. We got to put that on the trunk. On the trunk? On the door. On the door.

That way when we're blown by people, they can see, oh, maybe we should call them up and see how our car can get ahead. Well, what you do is, you know what you put on the back? What's the name of your boat? Stugats. Stugats.

Stugats. Can you believe that he named his boat? Yes. That's why he stole that from me because that was the name of my truck when I moved out here.

That was the name of your truck. Tony Soprano, theoretically. Yeah. Let's give it up to Tony Soprano first.

I haven't heard that one. Yeah, I mean. All right. David Chase. What else we got? What else can we put on there?

What do we have around here? We got to get Stone Cold, the sponsor. Maybe we get the beer. The Stone Cold's beer. Or Aikman's beer. Or Aikman's beer. Or Aikman's beer. Oh, a Reggie bar.

Oh. Reggie bar. Reggie bar on that. Reggie bar. Reggie bar. So we're incorporating our guests?

Yeah. Who drives? Who's our driver?

Obviously me. And I've gone through courses of training. What do you mean?

What courses? So I mean. But you wrapped a car around a tree. Not a cop car. That was my car. When you were a cop.

And I was inebriated. Yes. Like automatically eliminated. I don't know if formerly- I'm not sure he's going to climb in the car. What are you talking about?

I don't know if you're going to get through the vetting process. I drive everybody to the airport. Is the fact that you drove Liza Minnelli to Scott Bellows' house one night?

Yeah, there you go. I drove Judy Garland's daughter, Liza Minnelli. To Scott Bellows' house. To Scott Bellows' house. When you were a driver for Liza.

There you go. Does that offset the- I was a teamster. I'm the driver.

I used to be a driver myself, though. I'm from the northeast. So am I. What does that mean? What does that mean? You're not from the northeast.

What are you talking about? Rich, you're from a place where everything is on a grid. That is not driving hard. You want to drive, drive- Excuse me. You ever drive in Staten Island? Drive in New England, my friend. You ever drive in Staten Island? Drive in New England, my friend. You make the wrong move in Staten Island, suddenly your car is on four blocks. I'm not talking about streets.

All right? That would mean you're out. You can get in your car and put it up on blocks. No, I know how to drive it. I know how to drive it. That means you're in St. Louis on vacation with your family. I only failed my driver's test once. Now in all honesty, both of you- I blew a parallel parking in my- and my parents blew it.

You try to get your driver's license in a blue Pontiac Safari station wagon. Please. That ain't happening.

How long was that there? At any rate, Formula E is coming to the Roku channel, is our way of saying we're excited. We're going to have to table, we're going to have to table who's driving. We're tabling who's driving. I mean, you guys both went with Mario Andretti, right?

Oh gosh, that was incredible too. That's true. That's true. So there's a lot of experience here. We've trained. We've got experience.

Thus, it makes sense for Formula E to come to the Roku channel, is what I'm saying. And he said that he wrapped the car around the tree while he was inebriated. That wasn't my cop car, that was just a civilian car that was in fact employed by the local police department. I will openly admit. And he wants to be my Formula E driver. I mean, that's 35 years ago. This station wagon is so long.

Save Andale Industries. Yeah, you try and get your driver's license with that nervous- That's a YP. I had to do it in a manual car. What color was it? Oh, it was blue. Blue. Powder blue. Like the Chargers uniform.

Those colors are great. Oh yeah. And then we got a Pontiac LE. Passed my driver's test.

So much easier. Just like that. What year was the car? I don't remember. Yeah, I found like a nice blue one with the wood panel. Oh yeah, that's it.

That might be it. It's for sale. There you go.

Should we get it? For sale. The rear sheets facing the rear- What is it, $10? It's four figures. How do you keep that? Four figures?

How do you keep that in any condition? Those are classic cars. Really? You want to drive it? No. Nope. No.

Do you know what we should do? Top speed at 38 miles an hour. We should put an electric motor in that, and that's our car on the Formula E circuit. Now we're talking. Yeah.

But we want to win some races too. I don't know. Mike knows how to make things aerodynamic. Yeah. Don't see.

It involves a tree. Wow. Well, he knows how to stop a car. Wow. And the Roku folks are like, yep. That's the way to promote it. That's it. Thanks, guys. That's the way to announce the arrival. Formula I's. Wow.

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