REShow: Tre Boston - Hour 2

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TJ, my brother from another mother, love you. Live from The Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Earlier on the show, Sports Illustrated senior writer John Wertheim. Coming up, seven year NFL veteran Trey Boston, ESPN, NFL insider Field Yates, Chargers tackle Rashawn Slater. And now sitting in for Rich, it's Steve Weissman. Welcome to our two of The Rich Eisen Show. Steve Weissman filling in for Rich today and tomorrow.

Absolute pleasure to be here with you. Already talked to John Wertheim, as you heard, and we now have on the line, Trey Boston, former NFL safety for the Panthers, Chargers and Cardinals. Now, an analyst at ACC Network and the new host of a show on the Weather Channel. It is called this show.

Incredible fast home rescue. And the first episode of season two airs this Sunday, June 18th, 10 p.m. Eastern. There's the photo. It is Trey Boston and his wife, Sierra. Trey, welcome to The Rich Eisen Show. Thanks for joining us today. Well, appreciate you having me, Steve. How are you doing, boss man? Doing well, doing well. So you've been out of the league for a couple of years now.

We'll get to the show in a second. But how much do you miss OTAs in minicamp? Oh, man, I can say that I do not miss those at all. Really?

Not at all. You've made a very smooth transition from football to your next profession. What's that process been like for you? Yeah, it's been a blessing, you know, to be able to move on to the next stage of broadcast, becoming an analyst myself with ACC Network.

That was pretty smooth. It's something that while I was in the league, I was trying to focus on one day, you're going to end up with, you know, football being over and you got to have a plan for it. So I'm making sure, you know, made sure early to take advantage of broadcast, boot camps and certain things like that. So my transition would be a little bit easier. And next thing I knew, it led to a show option being a host with my wife on the Weather Channel.

Yes. As I read on your UNC bio that your career goal was to host your own reality TV show. So you're kind of living the dream. Listen, I'm not going to lie. I'm glad you just told me that, because I told my wife, I don't know where I put that, but I did say that one day when I was earlier. She was like, no, you didn't. So Carolina bio is where it says, OK, yes, I am living the dream, Steve.

No, I was I saw this. And by the way, Trey, you probably put that out before freshman year, right? Like that's when they take all that info and your major and what you want to be in life and those sort of known this since the jump, like 17, 18 years old.

Come on now, coming out of high school, I always knew, you know, hey, I had a little bit of talent behind me and it wasn't just football. So to be able to show my character, I think y'all are going to love the show because it's unlike any other show. But at the same time, you get that feel of my personality as well here with Trey Boston, former NFL safety and now the host of Fast Home Rescue on the Weather Channel. How did you get set up on this show? How did it all come together? Yeah, so what happened was my foundation, the Trey Boston Beyond Belief Foundation, ended up working with an organization called Rebuilding Together.

Well, it happened to be that Rebuilding Together was going to be a partner on this show with the production company that we work with. Well, they said, hey, we got the perfect guy that we think can host the show for you. And they told them, hey, take a look at me. Well, you know, lucky it's OB. I happen to already have a career on TV, been around plenty of, you know, to be able to show my personality.

And they love me. So they brought me in and me and the wife together as a dual package. And she's been killing it herself, truly blossoming on TV for the first time.

But for me, just just cruising into this. What's it like working with your wife, Sierra? Man, it is a it's a blessing to be able to work with her each and every day. You know, it's different because they talk about relationships at home, working together and going away from home.

But it's fun because when we're at home, we're still talking about work. But our work is, you know, helping people's lives. Our our work is helping people get back in their homes.

So to be still talking about that, I think that's a good thing, because on our hearts is to find ways to help as many people as we can. So, Trey, only five days per home to fix it is what I read. How long does it normally take to fix a home in this type of a situation?

Yeah, when you're talking about most of these rescues, it can take up to weeks to months. We've we've actually been the homes that haven't been done for years. So for us to come into these places and, you know, people have been waiting for two years, you know, up to six months.

Well, they're waiting for action. And we come in there in less than five days. I mean, we show up on Monday, like literally we're in their face on Monday. And then Tuesday is really when we start the action, because Monday we might do a demo, we might run around to get some materials. But Tuesday is when we truly start to build. So it's five days. But man, it turns into four real quick.

So four days to fix a home that's been ravaged by some sort of natural disaster. Is it just you and Sierra? Do you have, you know, 50 helpers there? How many people are working on this? Yeah, so it's me and the wife, but we usually have volunteers from the organization rebuild together other volunteers who we partner with, with other organizations like All Hands and Hearts. And what we do is we come together, you know, good 360 is another one, but it might be anywhere from five to 30 people depending on the day.

We have a group of five builders and designers on our team. But besides that, the rest are volunteers. So it's a lot of volunteer hours, people coming together, doing good works and truly just giving their love and passion to trying to get people in their communities back in their homes.

Trey Boston here, former NFL safety now starring on the new Weather Channel show Fast Home Rescue, which season two premiere Sunday, June 18th, 10 p.m. Eastern. Trey, what have you learned most doing this role? Man, what I've learned most is there's a lot of people out here who need help. And it's it's it's sad to know that there's so many people who have you know, that's for maximum to minimal damage, but that truly need help and stuff that isn't it's not optional. It's necessity.

So to be able to be in this field, help people out, truly give back to the communities. It's a blessing. And what you find out is, you know, how much you truly love just making, you know, putting those smiles on family spaces, giving them back to that peace and comfort within their homes.

And that's important. You know, all of us want to lay our head down at the end of the night and know that we have a great place that we can lay our head. We can go to the bathroom, we can cook in our kitchen and to get people back in those fields after being gone so long. I've learned that that's truly one of my passions in life and I love it is one of my purposes. That's beautiful to hear, Trey, and it truly is a blessing that you've been able to help these people, because as you say, if you don't have, you know, your home for most people, you've lost a big part of your life. How what are some of the stories that you've heard, you know, from the folks that you're out there helping? Yeah, so a couple of the storms we did, we did Hurricane Ian, which is my hometown of Fort Myers. So to go back to my hometown of Fort Myers and deal with the hurricane that just hit us maybe, you know, six, seven months ago and help my community.

I think that meant one of the most to me, because to help your community and be able to shine light, it's a different feeling. And, you know, you hear, you know, different people being in storms of coming back to their home of floods, six feet homes that were up to 10 feet of surge water in their homes end up coming back to maybe four or five feet. It's just I'm talking homes, just savage.

I'm talking you walk in your home. People were finding eels, snakes, just different type of eels and snakes. I'm talking this.

It was crazy to hear something like that. We also went down to the you know, down in the bayou in Louisiana. So to deal with Hurricane Ida that hit them down there was such a beautiful moment because we're seeing the essence of a community in the bayou that has been there for a millennia.

We're talking life. Whole Native Americans have been living here since we've ever known them. So to go down there, see how they they're living, the way of life, just to see how tired the community is in there. Man, just the week after week after week, we just met amazing families that every week I can give you a story because there were just so many great people that were going through tough times that just need a little bit of help to get over the hook. And most of these people were people who gave back to their community. So to give back to the community leaders so they can get back to the community, man, that's that's again, another blessing.

I love to hear that, Trey, you know, talking about helping people and going into communities that have been ravaged by these natural disasters, you talk about snakes and eels. When you get in, when you and Sierra come to this home, is that all gone or are you getting it literally at that that worst moment and then fixing it or is it kind of already been a little bit, you know, fixed up before you get in there? Yeah, so different homes were different, you know, set up, you know, some because we were coming a year or two later, they've obviously cleaned up as much as they can.

Roof might still be peeled back a little bit, but we're coming in to help over here. Some might rebuild together, might have came in already and did a little bit of the inside, but we're coming to help them finish the rest of the home. So you get homes in different conditions.

You have homes that you show up and it's just straight white walls or straight mucking guts, nothing on the walls, just straight drywall that needs to be ripped out because there's mold. So you see different setups and different opportunities for us to come in and do different things in the home. But at the end of the day, what I love is it's always catered to the homeowner. During the week, we find a day out of the week to meet with the homeowner, get a feel of what they like, what they like to do, and we find ways that we can incorporate it into the design features. So it makes it just that little more touch of a one on one with the homeowner themselves.

That's beautiful, Trey. Have you always been been handy? Like, did you do renovations to your own home in the past?

Is this something that that you've done before or are you starting from scratch? No, no, I would say because my organization partnered with Rebuilding Together, Habitat for Humanities and college going to UNC, we would build a couple of houses and clean up communities for Habitat as well. So to be able to be around that, it's always been something that I love to do.

I couldn't do it to the mass that I'm doing it now because, you know, we're actually putting organizations together to be able to do this. But it's always been something that I love doing because being raised in Fort Myers, Florida, hurricanes were often and we saw them early. So to be able to be around to help the community and see the ties that it can do for us is, you know, human ties, getting us back together to love the community, building that bridge again. It's always been something that has been a light for me. Trey Boston with us, former NFL safety for the Panthers, Chargers and Cardinals, now works at ACC Network, new host of the show Fast Home Rescue on the Weather Channel.

It airs this Sunday, June 18th, 10 p.m. Eastern. Have you gotten some ideas from these shows that you want to, you know, start adding to your own home and and just start knocking down walls and doing doing some renovations at home with Sierra as opposed to just, you know, fixing up places? Yeah, I'm not going to lie. Once we came home from our 10 episodes, the first thing we did was look around the house and we have a big wall that that leads from the kitchen to our living room. And the first thing we said is, man, we got to get this inspected. I think we can knock this wall out, get a little bit of more of an open space concept, allow the light to give that nice broad lighting inside the home. It was hard to kind of turn off that renovation space because now I think we got the bug.

We got the bug. That's awesome. So who does who does like, you know, more of the work? Is it you or Sierra?

OK, I'm not going to lie, Sierra is a beast. Like you'll find her paint, you'll find her painting the kitchen in the hour. You'll find her with some drills and nails going to work on some cabinets.

You know me, I do work. I love demos. I'm a great demo guy.

I mean, the brute force in the sledgehammer is my baby, but I will let you know it's a team. It takes a team of us to go in there and get the job done. So you'll see us do a lot of work. And what I like is it's not your ordinary home renovation show. It deals with education of the nature around and the ecosystem that's going on through the years around the area. It deals with learning about the animals around the area. You know, how did they weather the storm? I mean, so many aspects, businesses, local businesses as well. I mean, it's it's going to be such an amazing show that I want the people to watch because it's so, so, so much light to the people in the community. But it also has that home feel, good feel of getting people back in their homes.

Can't wait to watch it on this this Sunday, 10 p.m. Eastern on the Weather Channel. Trey, we got to talk a little bit of football while we have you here with us. Where do you think Dalvin Cook, DeAndre Hopkins, where do you think they end up? Yeah, man, those are two interesting guys. I mean, guys you plug in and they can be I mean, they're your ones. They can easily be your ones. I know people are trying to say Dehop slow down.

And that's it's amazing how fast they could forget when you get hurt. But I think Dehop needs to go to. I would love him to end up with another big time quarterback. I think Matt Jones needs him most to be the team that the Patriots need. But I would love a team like the Ravens to go smash them up like so. Lamar Jackson, like, no, we're 100 percent invested in finally giving you all the weapons you need. I think that would be one of those Madden teams setting up your roster if he goes there.

OBJ and Dehop. I mean, that's pretty sick. Oh, my God. It would be amazing. Like, tell me that's not football you want to watch when you got you got Lamar Jackson passing the ball.

Oh, beautiful. And then if I'm going Dalvin Cook, I would really love him to go down and stay in Miami. Like, I would really love him to be on Miami scheme. I love you know, I like what Mike Daniels does with his office of weapons. They're fast.

They can move around their weapons, true weapons. And when you have speed on that football field, it is a new game in these last, you know, three, four years when it comes to, hey, we know how to use our speed and we'll beat you with it regardless of you want to play powerball or not. We're just going to run around you and run past you. So I would love to put them in that run game and allow him just to rip it up for those boys. Those are some super teams you're putting together.

I like where your head's at, Trey, there. Former Carolina Panther. What's your your outlook on their season? They got they got a nice rookie quarterback coming in. Yeah, I've been hearing good things about Bryce Young.

I've been talking to a few of the guys, man. They love his composure. They love that, you know, off the field.

They don't have to worry about him not being with his head in it. You know, they know that he's focused when he's off the field. They know that he's putting in his grind that it takes to be a professional. And to be QB one, it takes a different grind. I mean, I watch Cam Newton from, you know, the earliest in the office to leave in seven, eight a.m. when guys are leaving at five, six.

I mean, leaving at nine when guys are leaving at five, six. I mean, you have to put in that work. So to see guys around him like Josh McCown, who's his coach, I think it's it's pivotal because you need those veteran like him and Andy Dalton to feed him the knowledge that he needs, because it's a game of reps. As long as you can get your reps, you're going to get better. But to have veterans like those two guys around him at an early age when he already is focused and has that great mental has come from Bama.

So, you know, Nick Saban's coached him up well with the offensive coordinators he's had. I mean, I think Bryce Young, I would say the ceiling is the roof. The ceiling is the roof.

All right. I like that. I say the ceiling is that there is no ceiling.

It's the sky. I'm high on Bryce Young. And it's exciting, right? When you have like a rookie quarterback coming in to a franchise. To me, you know, the fan, it may not work out.

You know, history says that usually it doesn't, but it's very exciting. You've you know, you were in the league for seven years, covered a lot of different receivers. Who's who's the toughest matchup you ever had? Oh, I mean, toughest matchup I've ever had, man. Julio Jones in his prime was was an animal.

I mean, an animal. I got to witness him go off with three hundred passing yards. Listen, I did not start that game.

That was coach's decision. That wasn't me. None of those yards. Oh, listen, that wasn't me. Oh, you know, I was probably in for about 60, but 300.

No, no. But no, man, Julio Jones at the at the peak of his prime, man, the way he could stop on a dime being what, 6'4", 220. I mean, he was a beast.

He was an animal. So to play against guys like that, I mean, it truly he was a game changer anytime he was on the field. Yeah, I couldn't imagine going up against that. You're a big dude, though. So, you know, 60, 70, it would have not have been 300 if you had started that game.

So we need to know we both know that. No way. You would have held him definitely under 100 for sure.

Maybe one touch. I will say that. But, you know, you also play for the Chargers. What do you think about their team? Can they can they win the Super Bowl this year?

Justin Herbert. They got great defense as well. All you talk about receivers. They just got a rookie to join join the crew.

They already kind of stacked there. Yeah, I like the Chargers. I mean, the NFL, you know, one thing, you know, older guys told the vets, you know, back when I was young with it's an elite quarterback league. Like you would not see guys deep into the playoffs.

Super Bowl teams year in and year out without elite quarterbacks. And I think Justin Herbert is an elite quarterback. When you put the ball in his hands and you have healthy options around him, you have, you know, Austin Ecklers, you have, you know, the three wide receivers that they have in Keenan Allen and Williams, Mike Will.

And you have the young guy coming out of, you know, Texas Christian, you know, TCU. So I think when you have weapons around elite quarterbacks, they get the job done. It's about what the defense will do. Can we I say we as this team, but you know, but but can can you is the charges find a way to keep Derwin James healthy? Because he is the motor to that defense without him on that defense.

It is not the same. It can play well, but I think there's a different energy when he is out there playing well. But I think when you have those guys in the nucleus healthy, they get the job done. Joey Bosa, I mean, this guy is ridiculous. So if those guys, I think between Joey Bosa and Derwin on the defense could stay healthy and the team stays healthy overall. I mean, they have a chance with Justin at quarterback.

Hundred percent could not agree more. TJ's got a question for you, Trey. Hey, Trey, what's up? Just real quickly, I just saw a poll on Instagram and I figured you might be a perfect guy to ask this question of. A poll on NFL's Instagram page said there's a jump ball for one million dollars. Who are you taking to make this catch? And they gave five wide receivers. And I'm give you the five and you let me know who you have to take to win this one million. We have D-Hop, we have Devante, we have Mike Evans, we have Justin Jefferson and we have Mike Williams out of those five. OK, so all current guys right now. OK. Oh, OK. Off the rip, I'm already thinking about, you know, D-Hop has, you know, three, you know, over three guys from Buffalo. So he's a high contender. It was a bad catch by eye, as he said, like Mike Williams is the best 50 50 deep ball threat in the league. I don't care what nobody said. And then Mike Evans is another one that's just a purist when it comes to being a big body, six, five, six, six and going up to get the ball.

Whew. Man, right now, today, I don't think you're going wrong with any three of those guys. D-Hop, don't hurt me for saying this. I think I think Mike Williams right now. I mean, I think D-Hop is, you know, getting a little past his prime to still make those big time catches. But Mike Williams is the guy right now for deep ball throwing Hail Marys, man.

So I hate that I don't get to go D-Hop, but yeah, Mike will right now is that guy. I hope you're right. You can make a lot of renovations with that million dollars if he comes down with the ball. Hey, that's that's a lot of homes right there. That's true. True. Who's leading that poll, T.J., right now?

Well, it's almost three thousand comments, so it's hard to really say. But Mike Williams has a few. Somebody mentioned Kelvin Benjamin.

He wasn't even eligible. So but you went with Megatron, right? You were like you said Calvin Johnson. Yeah, I went Calvin Johnson. If you if you're going all time.

Yeah. Calvin Johnson or Randy Moss. Yeah, I would take Randy Moss's people.

Those are my two guys. I think you're winning the money with either one of those two. Before we let you go, what's your who's your way too early pick to win the Super Bowl next year? OK, way too early pick to win the Super Bowl this year. I mean, it's kind of cheating, but you can always go Kansas City. I don't like going like teams that we know should be there. I think a team that we're sleeping on that can go over the hump can be the Ravens. OK, I like that.

The Ravens. Yeah. Especially if they're at DHOP. Yeah. And we'll see. That's what I'm saying.

They can go out and get DHOP. I think the Ravens. I think if you get a healthy, you know, healthy Lamar, I think that's a team that's kind of a dark horse because they still got to go through the Bengals. They still got to go through Kansas City. I felt like Miami is another team right there. They're on the cusp. But those are the teams that I think on the NFC.

I don't know. I think I got to do a little more studying on that side of the ball because I feel like there's a few teams that have switched some things up, which make me want to say the Eagles the way they just drafted. I mean, they just had a stellar stack. So it's easily to say that, hey, the Eagles can easily repeat this if they can. But one thing I've learned in the league, nothing comes easy in that league. You got to go after it week by week. And I've been on teams that been to the Super Bowl the next year, didn't make the playoffs because you thought it was just going to be the same old task.

And once people know what you're about, it's a different ballgame. I love it. Thank you so much for spending some time with us. Once again, Trey Boston. The show is Fast Home Rescue.

It premieres Sunday, June 18th, 10 p.m. Eastern on the Weather Channel. There he is. Trey and his wife, Sierra, available on Roku, just like we are, by the way, as well. Thanks so much for your time, Trey. Best of luck with the show.

No, thank you. Appreciate it, Steve. Appreciate it, man. Y'all have a good one. God bless, man. Thank you so much, Trey Boston. That was awesome. And doing just the Lord's work out there, you know, rebuilding these homes. That's great. Snakes and eels in the crib, man.

Oh, no, no, no, baby. Going down to the bayou. I'm looking forward to this shot. The weather. I like the Weather Channel.

But and these type of shows where, you know, they come in. And for Trey, listen, he's 30 years old right now. He's been out of the league for two years. And what impresses me the most, ACC Network and now his own show on the Weather Channel. That's amazing.

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844-204-rich. We are on the Roku channel, also on Sirius XM back after three weeks in Paris, where really the only NFL I saw was Tom Brady at the final of the French Open watching Novak Djokovic in his best life, do his thing, the retired Tom Brady. But there's a lot of running backs out there. And we've been talking about it all week when Tom Pelissero was filling in as well that that are looking to get paid. Three of them got franchise tagged. And so the cap on that is just about 10 million dollars.

So they're not happy with that. Saquon Barkley may sit out the season if he doesn't get a long term contract. Jonathan Taylor entering the final year of his rookie contract.

Austin Eckler also looking to get paid as well. And Taylor was asked about the declining value teams are placing on running backs. Take a listen to this with Delvin Cook's situation and, you know, Saquon and everything. Does it feel like running backs kind of fighting for the to be recognized for their value?

Yeah, they definitely are. And it's sad. It sucks because a lot of positions, a lot of positions do a lot for their team. But specifically speaking for the running back position, I can just speak firsthand.

We do do a lot. And you just want you just want to be treated fairly and not even treated fairly. You just want to be, you know, appreciate it for what you bring to the team.

It's never about yourself. It's about the team. So what do you bring to the team? So, you know, just seeing guys fight, you just hope that things work out for them. I mean, you see why guys they they request trades they they want. You know, they just want to feel value by not only their coaches, their teammates, but the organization as well.

And I think it's it's something you've got to continue to do. So listen to this. As of June 13th, according to Spotrak, running backs across the NFL have an average salary of just about one point eight million dollars. They rank 17th out of the 20 positions listed ahead of only fullbacks, punters and long snappers in terms of average salary. So running backs only ahead of fullbacks, punters and long snappers. That means place kickers on average make more than running backs. And we joke about like our kickers, even real NFL players.

There's also more of them, I guess. I mean, there's four or five running backs per team as opposed to one place kicker. Who are you putting more value on to win a game? And I'm not trying to put any shade on kickers because, I mean, they win and lose games as well. But how many running backs would you take over Justin Tucker, though? I would take a handful of running. Wait, you just said all of them? The majority of them. Yeah.

Wait, really? I would take Dalvin Cook over. I would take Saquon Barkley.

OK, how about this? How many running backs playing today are going to the Hall of Fame because Justin Tucker is going to the Hall of Fame? That's a great point. I don't know that it's still to be determined how many are going to get in the Hall of Fame. But I still think that they affect your offense more than Justin Tucker. They affect your passing game. Obviously, the running game.

I don't know. The kicker literally wins and loses games for teams. I don't know why I'm stumping for kickers. I take I'm with T.J.

I take I take running backs. And are we sure how many kickers are in the Hall of Fame? I think of Jon Stennerud, I think.

Morten Anderson. Adam Vinatieri is going to be there. Right.

That's my point. So Tucker's an anomaly. Vinatieri is a lot, in my opinion, should be a lot because he legitimately won you two Super Bowls. Justin Tucker is the best kicker in NFL history.

I get it. But I you don't think Justin Tucker is making the Hall of Fame? I mean, look, I would think so. Yes or no?

It's a simple question. Is Vinatieri making the Hall of Fame? No doubt. OK, then why hasn't he already made the Hall of Fame? He's not eligible? Yeah, he just retired.

Yeah, he only retired a couple of years. I mean, I believe Vinatieri should go. You think he's a first ballot? Vinatieri?

Oh, yeah. I don't know. Honestly, first ballot? I don't know if Tucker's going.

I mean, statistically speaking. Wow, man, you are really tap dancing. I really don't. I don't. That's not a tap dance. I'm being honest with you.

I don't know that you can. You said that with a whole lot of confidence. But I don't know that for a fact, Justin Tucker is going to be in the Hall of Fame. I believe Adam Vinatieri should most definitely be in the Hall of Fame, though. I'd be surprised if if Vinatieri was the first ballot Hall of Famer. Well, but you think he makes it right over time?

I don't know. I don't I don't I don't love kickers in the Hall of Fame. Justin Tucker has made seven straight all pros. There's OK, Anderson, Jon Stenner, Rude, George Blando, Lou Groza.

I believe that is it. Most kickers are forgettable, but the ones who jump out. OK, are you valuing kickers more than running backs? I think in today's game, running backs are interchangeable. Why? You can.

Why? It's kind of the way the game is played right now. It's a it's a pass first league. So if you have a running back who can catch passes, they're more valuable than guys who can run between the tackles because you can get a running back who can do all of those things like Christian McCaffrey can run between the tackles, run outside the tackle, catch passes. So that is today's NFL running back and that's where the value is. So is someone like Jonathan Taylor worth as much as Christian McCaffrey or even Saquon Barkley?

I don't think so. No, I mean, it's an interesting question why the value is going down. And those are some of the reasons that are talked about one. I mean, the position is prone to injury, gets hit the most right out of any position. Running backs have the shortest, shortest average career in the NFL. Two point five, seven years for running back is the average career length. So do you want to give them a five year contract for millions of dollars if history says they're going to last for less than three?

I get it. Money wise, the game is based more on passing now. But I would argue that the running back sets that up.

If you don't have any sort of running game, the defense would account for that and you wouldn't be able to pass as well. A great season does not mean it'll happen again, because once again, you had so many carries. So it's very rare that you have you might have back to back good seasons as a running back. It is extremely rare to have back to back to back amazing seasons at that position.

And as Brockman said, you can you can draft a running back, spend less money, pick a running back up in free agency and and potentially, you know, get to that same production. But I think there are guys that stand out. I think Saquon Barkley, you know, stands out. I think Josh Jacobs has stood out.

Tony Pollard, you know, as well. But it's unfortunate that with the franchise tag, you're capping those guys because you're not paying a ton of them that much to begin with. I mean, ten million dollars is a lot of money. So, you know, we're living in first world problems. It's not like it's the end of the world.

Making ten million dollars, but compared to other positions, you know, it's not the same. And and I would there's the the Le'Veon Bell factor to me as well. So he's the only running back since 2010 to get the franchise tag, not sign a long term extension prior to the deadline. So these other guys, they still have time. I believe it's July 17th that they have in order to sign that long term deal.

They're on the franchise tag. He actually sat out a year. Le'Veon Bell turned down five year, 70 million dollar deal. Sounds like a lot of money. Only ten million dollars was guaranteed in that. Thirty three million over the first two years, if he played both years.

But with the injuries, you never know. He then signed a four year fifty two point five million dollar deal with the Jets. But that had twenty seven million dollars guaranteed in his last season with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Why this all happened. One thousand two hundred ninety one yards rushing, six hundred fifty five receiving. So, yeah, you're like if you're Le'Veon Bell, you pay me. Right. I'm stepping up and all in his next three seasons with four different teams, he totaled seventy three less yards rushing and twenty six fewer yards receiving. So it has proven over time that when you have one of those big years.

That takes a lot out of you. Yeah, and I'm Murray, T.J., I mean, you saw that happen. He had almost what for almost for a carry through and he carried him to the ground, went to Philadelphia and was kind of nothing after that. You just look at the list of Super Bowl winners to like who was the last, you know, running back to win a Super Bowl that had a monster season or was a, quote unquote, kind of bell cow. You look down the list, it's a it's a while before you get to someone. And also, you know, why pay one guy ten million when you can pay three guys three million and get the same production total? I get it. I get the financial aspect of it. And at the end of the day, if I'm a general manager, I see these numbers running backs, average career, two point five years. And I see, you know, the fact that they're not able to produce as much historically after they've had a great season. You're probably not going to pay them what they believe they deserve.

And it sucks, right? Because they're not getting paid that year that they did do extraordinary things. Right. You're getting these guys on their rookie deals. And a lot of times they're not first round draft picks. We only had two running backs in the first round this year. The previous years, you know, you're lucky to get one running back in the first round.

And you look at some of these guys, you're finding that big time production in the second, third, fourth. Isaiah Pacheco was a seventh round pick scored a touchdown in the Super Bowl. He was hugely important to Kansas City, you know, winning that game in February.

And so it's you know, you look at the and you just kind of do the shrug emoji and you're like, why would I you want how much good luck? It's interesting because it shifted over time. I mean, running backs used to be the focal point now. I mean, the left tackle we got restaurants later coming up later on the show. He is a much more valuable if this is a chessboard.

Right. He is a more valuable piece than the running back. And the guys on the defensive line, the defensive backs are more valuable pieces.

But they're all important. And if you don't have a running back that can produce, I don't think you're going to have a quarterback that produces as well. I mean, it's not the protection necessarily, but at the end of the day, the running game sets up the passing game to me still in the NFL. And if you can't run the football because in the playoffs, you still got to run the ball, right, Brockman?

I mean, you have to do it enough for them to defense to honor and make you think you can do it. But when you can do it with three different guys, I don't know how I have to keep saying my point different ways, but I'm just, you know, Kansas City, who was the leading rusher in the Super Bowl last year, do you think, for the Chiefs? Patrick Mahomes? Patrick Mahomes was the second leading rusher. He had 44 yards.

Pacheco, a seventh round pick, had 76 yards. The leading rusher for Philadelphia in the Super Bowl last year was the quarterback, Jalen Hurts. So, you know, it doesn't necessarily lead to winning. And if you look at teams that have won the Super Bowl, you'd be hard pressed to name the starting running back or who had the most yards in that game.

Going back 10, 15 years. I just don't think it translates to winning, having one of these super high expensive Bell Cow running backs. And, you know, when you have other positions that are more important, that's where the money has to go.

Defensive back, left tackle, edge rusher, quarterback. That's what wins you Super Bowls. So are you paying Dalvin Cook?

Are you going out? Absolutely not. I'm probably not in the Dalvin Cook business if I'm a general manager, not in the Dalvin Cook business. TJ, you in the Dalvin Cook business? As stated yesterday, I would love for Dallas to be in the Dalvin Cook business. But, you know, as Tommy Pelosero kind of pointed out, the way our bank account is set up, we probably can't afford to be in the Dalvin Cook business.

But, you know, I don't know. Maybe I'm romanticizing the I understand what Chris is saying and maybe I'm romanticizing the running back position. But I know if you need if it's third and five, man, wouldn't you want like a good running back? But I guess Chris is saying that.

And I actually said this yesterday. There's so many guys who you can plug in. It's just it's hard.

It's hard to say. Third and five, I'm throwing to Travis Kelce. Or having Travis Kelce run the ball.

I'm running I'm on a roll out. I'm running a Jalen Hurts quarterback power. I mean, what I learned from this conversation is that Justin Tucker is more valuable than any running back in the NFL, according to Brockman, essentially. It's not what I said, but more or less what you meant.

Justin Tucker is more valuable than what? All but maybe five running backs. OK. I thought I thought it was all all right. Not all right. OK. I'd rather have Christian McCaffrey than just.

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TJ. So every morning at the hotel is this glorious breakfast spread. And I would have one or two croissants, one or two pano chocolate. We're going to go to which is a croissant stuffed with chocolate. The best. Oh, yeah. So we had two of each.

Chris is what he's saying. Oh, yeah. Eggs, fruit. And the coffee. I mean, the cappuccinos are amazing, but I'm just the bread, you know, and I don't I don't eat a lot of bread, carbs. I try to be like Matt Damon on a more L.A. L.A. diet, you know, try to stay strict. I have I brought in my my my apple slices.

Wow. Yeah, I saw you chow on the break. My snack today. And by the way, I had never been to the green room here before, but I do like the Z bars.

Oh, it's like I snuck in one of those. But yeah, I mean, the food's insane. And then at night I'm going out to these great restaurants and I eat snails when I'm there and there's this one restaurant cargo.

Yeah, it's called Lavinue. That's my favorite spot in Paris. And I went there three times this term.

I try to get there as much as possible. What should go to it? So here's the order. So we start there. The Hemingway daiquiri is the cocktail of choice.

All right. I'm looking up the name. That is delicious.

Try to have one or two of those. Was this Hemingway, the writer's favorite? Yes. In fact, there's a Hemingway bar at the Ritz in Paris, which I would highly recommend.

It's it's an amazing bar to check out. Awesome. Yeah. Have you been there? Yeah.

So cool. Right. So then I get what they call six extraordinary snails and they are extraordinary. How they could be so basically, if you haven't had a snail before, because I have not. So it's butter and garlic. So it's just butter and garlic. And then a piece of meat that tastes kind of like a shrimp. So it's meaty, right?

It's not weird. It's not like an oyster. It's not, you know, a muscle or some like slimy thing. It's it's it's a it's like a little piece of chicken or shrimp. And it's in the shell and they give you these tongs and then they give you the tiniest fork you've ever seen in your life. And you stick it in there and then, you know, you get your your meat. But basically, it's just doused in butter and garlic. And that's what it tastes like. So if you're a fan of butter and garlic, which if you're not, what's wrong with you?

Sign me up. That that's what it is. So I ate these six extraordinary snails. That's like this goes without, you know, I have the same order because if I find something I like, I am sticking to it.

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of change. Then I get Latigre. I don't know if you're still looking at the menu, Brockman, but it's the tiger. And basically it's a steak. Oh, that is sliced. OK.

Medium would be the temperature of choice for me. And then that is covered in this Thai chili sauce. And on the side, you have some coconut rice and it is glorious because then with your extra Thai chili sauce, you put that with the rice. But the steak is cooked perfectly.

Perfectly. And then you end with the apple tart. Oh, which is like this thin, you know, pastry, but cake. And, you know, it's beautifully done.

We're like the apples are sliced and it's all around. And there's got some powdered sugar on top. You may or may not have an espresso martini at the end as well.

Why wouldn't you? And that's that's the lavender order. But everything is good. There is everything's good in Paris. And you feel bad because you're eating all these carbs and your cheese, but it doesn't it doesn't weigh you down like American bread and cheese. If that makes any sense to people, there's a huge difference. They produce their their wheat, I guess, in a more healthy manner. Yeah, like whatever we do here is very poor. And I guess it's it's it lasts longer and it's cheaper.

And there they're like, oh, we want to make it better for you as a human. Like even if you look at a ketchup bottle or whatever, you know, random condiment in Europe as opposed to here. And you look at the ingredients. The one in Europe is pretty, you know, safe. There's no there's no extras in there.

The one here is a bunch of junk. Yeah. And that's why, you know, there's there's issues, of course, in America. But no, I mean, the food there, the breads, the French wine. And you bring up cheeses.

And I watched the show yesterday and I was shocked. Oh, my gosh. And disturbed by Tom's lack of cheese in his life. Yeah, that's going to be the name of his documentary, Tom versus Cheese.

I think he got scarred as a kid or something with American craft singles or whatever it was. Man, Tom, there's thousands of great cheeses out there. Gouda.

Good. It is Gouda on multiple levels. Gouda is amazing. By the way, in France, it's literally a course. So there is a cheese course. I went to this one dinner that, you know, we had some appetizers and stuff like that. We had the wine. We had our our mains. And then there was a a platter of all the greatest cheeses from all the land. We all find this and eat some cheeses.

Kenny, Maine. It was spectacular. Get to Paris if you can. Unless you're talking about the food. Steve Weissman filling in for Rich. It's the Rich Eisen Show.

Field Yates coming up next. What about desserts? Talk to me about the desserts.

So good stuff. I am a big fan of the pavlova. Have you had a pavlova before?

I've never heard of it. It's a meringue. So it's a glorious meringue. And then it has all the fruits around it.

Yeah. So Lavinu actually makes a good pavlova as well. I don't like fruit in my dessert. Oh, I'm going like cooked or raw. I'm going I'm going to make fruit guy for desserts. Apple pie is about as far as I know. But that's so American of you. I know that's what I'm saying. Like when I'm going to other places, I want you know, I want the local, you know, delicacy. All right.

So what would that be there? You've been what are you getting French pastries? I mean, the macaroons are amazing breakfast for dessert. I could eat the macaroons all day long. I ate them for like last night before I went to bed. I was sent home with some. And one of the best ones is when we went to Belgium and you get the you get the waffle with the ice cream sundae basically on top of the waffle. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah. This is the greatest thing I've ever eaten in my life. It's so good. And I and the wine there is amazing. Like if you're if you're a wine person, you may not even be a wine person.

I'm not. You will. When you leave Paris, you will be being a wine guy. You're like, oh, I had this or that or, you know, some fancy thing that you've never heard of before. And allegedly it's great. And, you know, that's that becomes your thing. Yeah. Chateau de Chem. That's that's your dessert wine. Look it up.

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