REShow: Bomani Jones/Breece Hall - Hour 2

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We've got to get it right if we can get it right. Earlier on the show, two-time Super Bowl champion Eli Manning. Still to come, ESPN host Bomani Jones. Jets running back Breeze Hall. Actor David Boreanaz. Plus, Rexham AFC striker Paul Mullen. And now, it's Rich Eisen.

Ah, yes. Hour number two of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. We already just chatted with Eli Manning and we've got four more guests to go and that means we still have time for you.

844-204-rich is the number to dial and everybody who's on hold stay on hold. Enjoy the conversation we're about to have. Breeze Hall of the Jets will be joining us in about 20 minutes time. It's very rare that somebody who gives me so much joy calls into this program fresh after giving me so much joy and not causing me to worry about ruining it. You know, I mean, I feel really good about the Jets. I do.

Are you going to be able to be professional during this interview? Absolutely. Absolutely. I didn't know if you'd fanboy out. Even though my conversation with Joe Douglas after the draft of the Jets general manager was like the Chris Farley show. You remember that? Remember that time you drafted Sauce Gardner? You were allowed to be happy. That was awesome.

And then you remember when you traded back into the first round and got Jermaine Johnson? That was awesome. That was awesome.

And then the top of the second night you took Breeze Hall? That was awesome. That was awesome.

197 yards against the Miami Dolphins from scrimmage, baby. That's the way to do it. Not exactly, you know, Bailey Zappi optimism, but it's close. Don't worry. Be Zappi. That's one. I like it. I like it. Chris Brockman shaking his head wondering why did he catch a stray right there? Good to see you.

What did I do? DJ Mikey D is in these nuts sitting in his spot. TJ Jefferson in his spot as well. Shout out to the good brothers.

Joining us here at the top of our number two is one of our favorites. I'm not just saying that because I'm about to introduce him and he's on hold hearing it. HBO's Game Theory streaming now on HBO Max. That's just season one.

Season two already slated for next year. He is the host of the right time of Bomani Jones as well. Bomani Jones back here on the Mercedes-Benz fans phone line. How are you doing Bomani? I've never heard an optimistic Jets fan in my life.

I've been living here for five years. I ain't never heard that much happiness around the Jets. It makes me feel good.

All dudes that work the cameras and stuff are all Jets fans, man. I'd be feeling bad for them coming in, you know. You giving me reason if I ever go back in the studio to feel good about it. You know, I'm glad to hear the joy.

Bomani, it could be the Southern California sun that just knocked the dismay out of me. I'm very optimistic. I like what I see.

They're very good. They're young and talented and they are a team where I would point to other rosters in the NFL and say, I don't want them. I'll take the one the Jets have.

I would do that for a lot of them. That's one of those things that if they were wearing a different color uniform, I'd probably be right there with you. It just takes a little while to shake it. I recognize that's irrational but so is rooting for the Jets. You are correct, sir.

You are correct. We can agree on the irrationality of all of that. What is your opinion of the rash of roughing the passer penalties that we're seeing and my fix is let's go ahead and make it reviewable.

Your thoughts on the subject matter, Bomani? Well, I think making it reviewable. If somebody's willing to roll the dice on a timeout, it's not like you're going to have people stopping after every flag on the basis of it. People generally know what the rules are on it. What was striking to me was in the run of this rash of roughing the passer penalties that with the pair of men following the best player in the NFL down, there's no flag on that. The trickiest part about this is it's hard to answer what to do when it's every individual referee that is making that call. It's not as though there's somebody up top that's making these calls on everything.

How exactly do you wind up legislating it? They have made a decision that defensive players sometimes it's not going to be your fault. I thought it was a bit of a ridiculous call with Chris Jones but the thing is if you land on the quarterback, we're going to call 15 yards, period, right? Well, I do.

How else was I supposed to do it? Who cares? They made that decision years ago. I don't know how this week was the one that made people pop up and realize it was kind of crazy.

I don't understand the rash of it right now. It just seems to be something that needs to be reined in and I don't think they're going to make it reviewable in the middle of a season. Do you think Tua's injury in front of the whole country a couple Thursdays ago has led to a re-emphasis mid-season? Both officials that were involved in this were asked that and they said no.

What do you think, Bamani? Well, I mean the first one of this week that really made us sit up and take notice was Tom Brady and he's been the Tom Brady rules forever. I think maybe it shocked people to see that even Derek Carr could get the same accommodations as Tom Brady, right? Like maybe that's the one that jumped up and got it for people. So I don't know if it's specifically about Tua. I figured all our outrage was directed towards the concussion protocol on that one.

We're not typically that able to focus on two things at once. Right. Bamani Jones here on The Rich Eisen Show. Second place team through five weeks that you're willing to place your marker on and say they could still win the Super Bowl. Green Bay, Dallas, Giants, anybody not named the 49ers in the NFC West. You've got the Packers in the NFC North. You got anybody not named the Ravens in the AFC North. Dolphins, Chargers.

What do you got for me on that front? See the problem with this is it's a whole lot of if y'all were somebody else's under this category, right? Because the Packers are one that you would feel like you got some kind of institutional familiarity with on this but nothing about them indicates that they can go to the Super Bowl. Nothing at all is saying that Dallas is out here winning games with a backup quarterback and a great defense and when they get Dak back and I still can't believe that we're really... We are shameless in our attempt to create a quarterback controversy between Dak Prescott and Kuka Rush.

Come on people, that's just ridiculous. When Dak comes back, they've got a top 10 quarterback with the defense that they have. They can go to the Super Bowl if for no other reason than there's nobody in the NFC that just makes you say, oh you got to watch out for them. Like the teams of the two best records are quarterbacked by Jalen Hurts and it's a feel-good story right now but we're going to be asking a lot of him to do this in January and Kirk Cousins and we done seen his movies before. What's the genre of his movies, Bomani? I think I know what you're... It's kind of like... That's a good question. I'm trying to think of what the analogy is where when you get up to the line and you just look at one dude and you don't look anywhere else. It's like Kirk Cousins goes to the movies and just looks at one corner of the screen.

One corner of the screen, not the middle of the screen is what you're saying? No, no, no. Whatever happened, it better happen right over there. All right, so then what's the AFC team in second place that you might believe in? You just went with the Cowboys. Yeah, AFC second place team.

Oh, just lost him. Yeah. That's one way to handle it.

You're spitting hot fire. Just hang it up. He'll be back. There you go. He'll be calling. He'll call back. He loves your Cowboys. He loves your Cowboys there.

We're just taking it week by week, Rich. He likes your Dallas Cowboys. I don't blame him.

Just pop him back up. You got him, Adam. Adam got a quicker trigger than you. All right, good.

All right. Is Adam doing the Jewish hello? What's going on?

What's the hell right there? You there? All right, here we go. I can see you right back up.

You sound great. There we go. The AFC team then. Yeah, the thing is I'm operating under the assumption that Tula, to talk about Lois, is not going to play for a while. If he was going to be playing, I would say maybe we could talk about the dolphins. Otherwise, we get to the Chargers and you get to that kind of same situation, which is they are, in fact, the Chargers. But like I looked it up, like Khalil might have got what, five sacks in five games? Like they got talent on defense and they have a quarterback who is capable of exceptional things. You look at the rest of the second place teams and that's the only one you could really say such a thing about.

Bomani Jones here on The Rich Eisen Show from HBO's Game Theory, as well as The Right Time with Bomani Jones. Let's flip the script to the NBA Bomani and what do you think the aftermath of Draymond Green's smackdown of his teammate is going to be? How do you think this is going to linger with the Jordan Poole, Draymond Green situation, as we say in the business? Man, that's a great question because the thing for me that I've looked at with the Warriors and where they defied my expectations last year above anything else was, I don't think it's a wise play to try to build, like play for the championship and build for the future at the same time.

Like that's a very, very difficult thing to do and they managed to pull that off. Well, now they're coming into a season where they got these young dudes that they are taking early in the draft, they want their minutes and they want to get their money. And then you got these old dudes who want their minutes and who are going to want their money and Draymond Green falls under that one. I think that he can win back the trust of the guys he's got the effort with, right Steph, Iguodala, Klay, because they've been there with him before. But there's a team full of dudes who don't have that same track record and history with him and don't have the same reference for him that local fans might have for him.

And that's where I wonder how this goes. The other question is how well is Draymond Green actually going to play because they will point to the post-season NBA Finals where it looked like he was unplayable, like he has been on a gradual decline. If he comes back out here and he's not playing well and you have all the other stuff that comes with him, then what? Like they have managed a very strong chemistry experiment for all those years there and he's been so important to it. But this is going to take some next level balancing to try to figure out how exactly to keep all of this together in a year where there's so many teams in the West that could be legitimately threatening.

So I think they'll be fine early. But what happens when things get a little difficult and what happens when a dude like Kaminka is like, hey man, I want my minutes. I'm too good not to be playing. To me, an NBA team, you really only got eight dudes that are going to play. They got nine dudes who realistically have reason to think that they should be playing. At least they've got the right coach for this. I'm sure Steve Kerr has been, shoot, he's been the punchy in these situations before and one of the greatest players in any sport was the one who threw it.

So I guess there's much for him to lean on to try and navigate these waters. There's another aspect of this that I'm wondering how it might linger as well is how this video came out. And I know there's a lot of criticism that comes towards anybody who brings this subject up because I'm not trying to take away from the actual assault that we saw on video, Bomani Jones. I'm just saying if I'm there, I'm wondering how many of our practices can be leaked out and who did leak this out? Do they have an agenda to make sure Draymond is held accountable? Do they feel that pool needs to be clowned? What is the reason for all of this?

That's another thing for me. Yeah, I've understood the people to a degree who don't understand why we have questions about the video getting out, but anybody who works in this business is stunned because that never happens, right? Like what is the chain of circumstances that leads to something like that coming out in public? It is a fair question to ask because that never happens. Bobby Portis broke Nicola Marichich's face. We never saw the video of it. All these years, we have never seen Latrell's Freewell choke P.J.

Carlessio. These things don't get out and it did and I really do wonder who made the decision or who needed the money or whatever it was that then led to us getting there. Like no, there are a lot of levels to this and I think something that's a little different in this than people want to recognize is that yeah, people fight at practice.

That happens. What was so stunning about this one was nobody thought that this was something worth fighting over. Nobody in that room heard anything that was like, oh I think a fight might be breaking out.

They tried to break it out. The only person who thought it was that was Draymond Green who has got a track record of hitting and kicking people and not everybody's going to be able to get over that, right? Like this is a trust matter I think for a lot of people and my buddy Marcus Thompson wrote a great California athletic where he played the thing about Draymond is Draymond supposed to be the big brother on the team. The big brother's there to stop you from getting hit in the face. The big brother's there to tell you, maybe I should hit you in the face right now but I'm not going to do that because I'm your big brother.

Instead he punched the dude in the face and not everybody's going to get over that as quickly as you would watching somebody get punched in the face who was not you. As always well put and thought provoking and I appreciate the time Bomani Jones. So what next year is game theory? You got that on the docket for next year for you? Yeah we're looking at 2023.

That's what they're telling me to tell people. We got that. I also got the right time with Bomani Jones podcast.

It'll go on at ESPN. We're back on three days a week. Fantastic. Come check that out. Well if you ever want me as a guest, need me as a guest, anything like that, I'd love to return in kind Bomani. You've always been kind of calling when we reach out. Appreciate it. All right man, I'll take you up on that.

Let me do it, please. Anytime. Thanks for the call Bomani. I appreciate it. You got it at Bomani underscore jones on twitter. I follow him.

You should as well. Bo has a way of putting things. He always does and then and then and then and then he he wraps it up in a bow very succinctly as the Philadelphia Phillies with a two out hit top one take an early lead in the first game of the divisional series on a bright sunshiny day in Atlanta. No David Robertson by the way in the series. Did you see that for the Phillies?

I did not. I didn't even know this game was starting. He hurt his calf. You know why? You know how he hurt his calf? Jumping up and down celebrating a the Bryce Harper home run in the previous series and he's out for the divisional series.

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Our Friday guest Sarah Tiana just just tweeted out, I'm already gonna vomit. It's 2-0 and Konya Jr. is on second base like a ghost runner. It's a lead off.

He's right there. It's okay. This is her deal though.

She's so stressed. It's playoff baseball. It's the first inning. I'm so happy my team's still in it. I'm so happy my team's still in it and it's enhanced by the fact, not you TJ, other Mets fans in my life. Other Mets fans in my life.

You know, I'm glad they're miserable. Although that's not my brother. I kind of cloned my brother a little bit yesterday. We were dealing, you know, we were dealing with something again personally and as soon as we were off the conference call together I called him back to reconnoit and I said to him, I'm like, I'm just calling to check your ears to check your ears to see if everything's okay after that call and he says, that's why you're calling me back? Really?

Is that really what you're doing? And I felt bad because he's my blood relative and I love him. He's my older brother. That's funny. We like him.

He taught you about life. But I also wanted to talk to him about the Jets too. Bryce Hall is calling in shortly. So I'm so happy my team's still in it, but I am stealing myself for playoff baseball, which is unlike any other, okay? It's playoff football. There is still, there's still some moments in a playoff football game where, okay, it's just a run and play. It's second down and eight, we got it. It's the first quarter, whatever.

Right, exactly. And playoff basketball, it's like, all right, there's seven more games to go potentially after this tip off tonight. And nothing really heats up until the last five minutes.

Right, playoff hockey is intense. Certainly when there's overtime, I get it. But nothing like playoff baseball, where if it's May 15th, I'm watching a Yankee game, May 15th game, 45 of 162, lead off runner gets on in the top of the second inning. And I'm thinking to myself, okay, it's just a lead off runner.

Let me go get a snack. Tonight, if the Guardians get any lead off runner, you're just like, series is over. Series is over. This person's going to score and the season's over. And I don't know why I can't see forest from the trees during a playoff baseball game. Season is not over. I know I got to do that. Got to do that, Rich.

So it is kind of just like that. When the playoff baseball hits and Garrett Cole tonight goes up against Paul Quantrill's kid, who'd have thought that I would be having my heart in my throat because it's Paul Quantrill's kid, Cal, going for the Guardians against the Yanks. I just hope Garrett too. And I bet you, your guy Ramirez, who, did he carry your fantasy baseball team this year? He sure did. I actually, I lost by one in the finals.

Okay, sorry to hear that. Yeah. But yes, he did carry me the whole year. I have a fear that he is going to join the postseason pantheon of famous players the Yankees famously cannot get out. Named Ramirez, too.

Yes. Well, Manny, back in the day, but I'm talking about current players. Devers? Yeah, you can't get him out. Altuve?

Bregman. Can't get those guys out. And I have a feeling for some reason Ramirez is going to join that pantheon tonight. See, I'm already not pacing myself right now. I'm already not pacing myself in the same way that Sarah is not pacing herself right now. One, she's driving, she has a hair appointment, she's going to be like on her phone. Yeah, it's a disaster. Today's gonna be a disaster.

So she's getting, look, this could be, hold on a minute, I don't know if she's, she's definitely not listening to us, I can use this line. So she could be suffering two blowouts today? I know.

The hair? And this baseball game? I bet, I'm willing to bet the Braves don't have a baseball game.

I'm willing to bet the Braves tie it like right here. Right here. In the meantime I will occupy myself and this program with another.

For the sake of my night coming up. I guess I'll take part in a more, what should I say, productive endeavor. Joining us on the Mercedes Benz Vans phone line right now is the rookie running back of the New York Jets. My team, my team growing up and seeing him with 197 yards from scrimmage, a rookie rushing record, pardon me, a rookie record for the New York Jets against the Miami Dolphins was quite something, put it that way. And joining us here for the first time on the Rich Eisen Show, hopefully first of many, is Breece Hall. How are you, sir? I'm doing good. How are you guys doing? I'm doing great, Breece. Do you have any idea how happy you've made people over this weekend?

Do you have any idea? You know, it's been a blessing. I just hope I can continue to keep, you know, chipping away at it and just keep trying to help this team win games. How did things click for you this week in a way that I'm sure you were imagining and hoping for?

How did that work? It really just started with a good week of practice and just knowing that the coaches try to do everything they can to, you know, put the ball in my hands and help me be in good spots to make plays. And it also has to do a lot with my teammates, you know, them having that trust in me as a rookie and them wanting me to have the ball, trusting me to have the ball and everything like that.

It's just been a blessing so far. I'm sure, but has the game slowed for you in the first five weeks, Breece? Yeah, you know, those first two weeks were a little jittery. I had to kind of get used to the tempo of the game and everything like that, but as I've gotten more comfortable, I've got more reps and everything like that in the game, starting to slow down and I've kind of been able to control the tempo of the game and everything like that. So I've just been getting better every week just thanks to my team and thanks to all the opportunities I've been getting. Well, I mean, the first two weeks, when you said things were were speeded up and fast, can you give me an example of that in the way how it slowed?

What do you think? Yeah, just when I was getting the ball, you know, I wasn't hitting the hole as fast as I wanted to. I was missing holes here and there, everything like that. And I felt like the coaches kind of knew that, you know, they were like, all right, you're a rookie, but you know, you got no excuse. And I kind of just prided myself on just playing better football.

That's all it was. I got more reps and more opportunities and the game just started to slow down naturally. What do you mean they said you don't have any excuses? What does that mean?

What do you mean by that? Just for them and myself, just to have that expectation to come in and just help the team win games, be an impact player. And I felt like with all the rookies we drafted, that's what the expectation for us is. We have no excuses. And I won't say we have no room for error, but we, you know, we hold ourselves to a different standard. Well, you could have after week two, I know, you know, you're just a rookie, you could have clapped back at your coaches and say, coach, there was a huge ass elf on the field. What am I supposed to do?

I mean, I've never seen that. You could have said that, but you didn't do that. No, no, I just, I pride myself on playing at a high level of football all the time.

And that's how it was for me in college. You know, I was one of those impact players, one of those X factors. And now that I have a lot, a lot, a lot of help on this team now with the Jets, you know, guys like Elijah Moore, Corey Davis, Gary Wilson, Michael Carter, Zach Wilson, and my whole O-line, it's just a big help from them. And now I'm just in a great position to make plays. Breece Hall, New York Jets running back fresh off of 197 scrimmage yards in the win over the Miami Dolphins here on the Rich Eisen Show.

Walk me through your draft. What was that like for you to sit through the first night, not hear your name called, and then that Friday? What about that experience, Breece?

Walk me through that if you don't mind. Oh yeah, you know, it's bittersweet. Kind of just expecting, you know, as a child, it was a childhood dream for me to kind of just hear my name called in that first round and everything like that. And I felt like at first I was, I was really frustrated.

I was kind of mad just down. And, you know, the next day I knew I was going to be going pretty fast. And I got that call from the Jets and it just uplifted my whole spirits. But it was just frustrating for me that day, that first day, just because I felt like there wasn't that many players better than me and everything like that. So, but once the second day came, I was just glad to be a Jet. I was glad to be a part of this great job class that we have. And I felt like we did have the best draft so far.

So it's been fun. So, I mean, Maurice Jones drew my colleague at the NFL Network. He wore 32 because that was the number of teams that passed on him in the first round. But he wore, that's what he wore. So he kind of wore that chip on his shoulder his entire career.

Jonathan Taylor, who is the de facto first overall fantasy pick and a lot of people's MVP picks for this year, he went in the second round, top of the second round as well. Do you wear this on your shoulder as you go about your business every day now, Maurice? Yeah, for sure. I definitely kept those receipts, especially over the draft processes, all those teams talking to me, telling me that they like me and everything like that. And just comparing myself to other players and seeing where I stood, I felt like I was definitely worthy of being the first round pick. But, you know, everything really worked out for the best. Like I said, God put me here. He made me a New York Jet for a reason. And right now, I'm just trying to prove that, you know, I was worthy of being picked where I was picked.

And I'm just trying to get better every day and help the team win games. So, yeah. So what was it like when you got that call? And I could have helped you out because everything I was hearing right before I went on the air that Friday night in Vegas was the Jets were coming to get Breece Hall.

That's all I heard. What about you on that night? Yeah, yeah. I definitely was hearing the same things, you know, but as far as the job goes, you know, you can never really believe anything until it happens. So once I saw that call and saw the area code and everything, I was like, man, I'm about to be a Jet. So it was crazy, you know, just getting that call from Joe D, talking to Silas and everybody. It was, you know, it was just a huge blessing. I was so happy.

You know, it's really a shift of emotion because you go from being down in the dumps after day one to just, you know, kind of just having your world made day two. And just seeing, you know, guys like Garrett, Foster Maine, Michael Clemons, Jeremy Rucker, Max Mitchell, just, you know, I was going to be a part of a drive class with those guys. It was just a huge blessing. And I knew that we would come in and kind of make an impact where the team just helped the team win game. It's not just any draft class, Breece Hall. I got to be honest with you, speaking on behalf of the Jets fan base, so much placed in this draft class, last couple, obviously. But this one in particular, because it's filled with kids like yourself, you don't mind me referring to you as such, even though you just played like a grown ass man. I mean, like, it's filled with folks like yourself that are not familiar with the feeling that I, as a 53 year old man, having rooted for this franchise, since I can remember, have been feeling about the same old Jets.

And here we go again. And this is not what's expected of the Jets is actually winning and coming into a place like, say, Lambeau Field this weekend and coming out with the win. How do you handle hearing that mentality from the fan base and people emotionally scared like myself, Breece Hall? Yeah, you know, you hear, but you can't really pay too much attention. Our team prides ourselves on just always giving that extra 60%.

So, Coach Salah always says, you know, no matter how hard you're going, you still got 60% more to give in. We come in every day with that expectation to hold each other accountable and get better. And we don't really look into the outside noise.

We don't really care about what each other thinks and what we think about ourselves. So every day, you know, we're chipping away at it. We're trying to change the thing.

And I feel like we're trending in that way and making the Jets to win the franchise. Breece Hall here on the Rich Eisen Show. Did you hear what Jair Alexander had to say from the Packers in London after losing to the Giants? Yeah, he mentioned something along the lines of, that he believes in the defense there, but possibly if they lose to the Jets, if we lose next week, then I'll be worried, is what he said. What do you make of comments like that, Breece Hall? What do you think?

You know, it is what it is. Obviously, he just believes in his team and everything like that. So, I feel like he shouldn't be saying that, you know, the Jets should be beating them or whatever the case may be. I just feel like, you know, he's confident in his team and he's confident in what they will do. But just like, he's confident, we're confident in our team and what we're going to do.

So, it's going to be a great game once we step on the field for sure. Okay. Good answer, Breece Hall. Good answer. I'm giving you a clap for that one.

That's well done. That's a very veteran answer right there. Who was your guy growing up who you wanted to be like who you emulated when you were dreaming of being that first rounder, Breece? You know, I've had a couple of family members that have played in the NFL. Also, my stepdad had a Breech in the NFL, you know. My cousin's Roger Craig. He played, everybody knows who he is, you know.

So, don't really got to introduce him. And then I have a cousin named Ken Keith that played for the Colts for a little while and he also played in the CFL. And then my stepdad, Jeff Smith, was a running back at Nebraska and then for the Chiefs and the Buccaneers. So, just looking up to guys like that, having that example set for me at a young age, I kind of already knew what I wanted to do growing up. I was really in love with basketball and football.

So, I knew I was going to make my way playing one of those two sports. So, just for it to end up how it's been so far, it's been a blessing. So, we shouldn't be surprised that a cousin of Roger Craig just set the rookie record for yardsome scrimmage just in his fifth game. Is that what you're saying, Breece Hall?

No, I ain't going to say all that, you know. That takes a lot of hard work, but... What has he taught you? What conversations have you had with Roger Craig, Breece? He always is just uplifting me and just trying to keep me positive. He always texts me good luck and he always tells me if I have a good game and he definitely makes sure that I know that I can reach out to him whenever I need anything. So, it's been a blessing just to know I have his support. Okay.

All right. So, you're a kid from Nebraska, right? That's where you were born, correct, Breece? I'm born in Detroit, but grew up in Nebraska. Ah, born in Detroit, grew up in Nebraska, then went to Iowa State. Any significance playing in Lambeau Field for you then this weekend, Breece? I get to go against one of my Iowa State guys, Alan Lazar, so I'm excited for that for sure.

We've been talking about that during the summer, so it's going to be fun to see him. Okay. And how large is your vertical leap? You mentioned basketball. How's your vertical leap doing, Breece?

Uh, 40. So, you know, in high school, I was one of those guys who, you know, I was kind of missed, kind of did everything. I could dunk it a little bit, shoot, get to the basket. So, I have a little basketball history, too. Okay.

I'm asking that just to see if you got the vertical to leap into the stands if you score in Lambeau Field, do one of those, Breece. What do you think? No, they might have to kick me out of there. I don't know if I could do all that.

Yeah, you get rejected. Yeah, you can get Rudy Gobert out of there. I agree. What about Sauce? Do you think Sauce might have that in mind? What do you think?

Would he have... Oh, yeah. Sauce is one of those guys, you know, he's so confident in what he does, and he's been proving it week in and week out, and he's just letting guys know that, you know, he is who we say he is, and he works, you know, he works just as hard as anyone. It's been cool just to be around him and get that relationship with him and see how much of a hard worker he is, and that's been translating to the football field as well. Okay. Can you tell Garrett Wilson something for me? Would you mind? Yeah, I got you.

Okay. Tell him that his dad said hello. Will you please do that? Yeah, I'll tell him that for sure. He was very upset with me last time we spoke, and I told him that I was his father, because Michigan beat Ohio State.

But just tell him, you know, dad says hello, and we'll see him in November one more time. Would you mind doing that for me? Yeah, I got you.

Oh, I'm writing checks right now. But I'm feeling great. My football world is great. Thanks to you and everybody else that was drafted in your class, and just so my last question for you is, what do you tell a Jet fan base that is all filled with optimism? We don't know how to walk around and live life, to be very honest with you like this. Breece, what would you tell us? Just to keep staying along with us. Don't give up on us. Okay. You know, there's going to be good, there's going to be bad, but you know, as long as the fans stay loyal and stay true to who we are and keep believing in us, then everything's going to pay off for the best.

All right, Breece. Thanks for the call. Congrats on that big performance. Look forward to more, and I'm not just saying that because of the obvious, but my youngest son and I have both have you in our starting lineups for our fantasy team, so you go and run forth and multiply.

Would you please? Thank you. I appreciate you having me on.

Anytime. Let's do this again. Breece Hall, everybody.

Breece Hall of the New York Jets right here on the Rich Eisen Show. Do you think he's going to walk up to Garrett Wilson and say your dad says hello? Man, I hope so. I hope not. I really hope so.

I hope so. He's just like, hey, Gary. Gary, that was just on the phone with your pops now.

Why not? He said, Gary, that was just on the phone with your pops. He says hello. Yeah, he's going to be like, who's that? Rich Eisen? Swamp man.

Who's your daddy? Oh, baby. You realize you're jinxing Michigan, right? I'm not jinxing him.

No, I'm not. I'm not jinxing him. I'm not jinxing him. Come on, man.

This game's going to happen either way. You jinxed the Raiders last night. No, I didn't. No, we didn't. How did I do that?

How did I do that? Hey, how is it my fault? We said, we were talking about the win that game.

You're texting us, how about my Raiders? Oh, come on. Come on. He's not jinxing anything.

He did that with the Yankees. Oh, yeah. Like what scared me? What happened last night?

The official calls a defensive hold on a missed extra point because I texted you three hours before. Well, you know, get out of here. Get out of here. All part of the big ether of the football.

Get out of here. Weird football guys. And then Carl Shefferts. Carl Shefferts bailed the Raiders out.

The football gods look down. Carl Shefferts bailed the Raiders out. But your jinx was more powerful. That would have been a much worse deficit. It would have probably been 17 all at half, right? Or 17. It should have at least been 17-14. 17-14, right?

Yeah, probably. A minute to go. Honestly. All right. I've been promising to take your phone calls.

I will be a man of my word. Do we have an overreaction Tuesday based on just last night's game alone? I believe we do. We do.

Okay. David Boreanaz is here from SEAL team on CBS, and then Paul Mullen of Rexham AFC will help take us to break. We're back with more of your phone calls. 844-204-RICH.

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Triple headers, the international series in every postseason game. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. Let's take some phone calls. Folks have been hanging on for a while. By the way, it's still 2-0 in Atlanta.

Although, wait a minute. It looks like somebody just went yard. Oh, see ya!

2-1. Somebody just went yard. It's the Braves that are now on the board. Darno.

Travis Darno, former New York Metropolitan. Right? That was after the Phillies got out. Braves had bases loaded one out. Yeah, right.

It was the first double play. Okay, here we go. Here we go. High register.

This is going to be a high scoring game. Very good. John in Seattle. You're in on the first in first up on the Rich Eisen Show. What's up, John? Hi, Rich. Thank you so much for taking my call.

Thanks for making it. What's on your mind? I wanted to comment on something you guys talked about yesterday in your overreaction about the MLB playoffs. I think you should take your Yankees, the Seattle Mariners, and the Dodgers to win the World Series. One of those three teams. The Mariners are not losing to Houston.

I don't know, man. Here's my problem with the Mariners, my concern. And I know this for a fact because I had him on my fantasy team all year long with Coop after he was dominant last year. Robbie Ray is not pitched well at all. And the Astros savage him.

I mean, absolutely destroy him. And so Luis Castillo might go zero for zero with Verlander, although that's a tall order. But I'm concerned about the Mariners pitching after Castillo.

And that was a hell of a coup. A hell of a coup for the Mariners to get him in the trade deadline and then sign him. But I'm concerned about Robbie Ray. If you tell me he's going to pitch like the Cy Young of the previous year, then I'm in on you. I'm in. That's my concern.

I hope Robbie does that. I'm also concerned about him. You should be.

But I'm just going to say the big dumper, there's enough room on the big dumper for everybody to come along. There we go. Thanks very much.

Greatly appreciate it, John in Seattle. Does somebody want to interpret that for me? I have no idea.

Anybody else? Nope. Oh, I don't know what that means. I mean, I have a sense of what that could mean.

It could kind of figure it out. The coffee goes straight through you? Is that what that is?

In Seattle? Oh. I understand. I don't understand.

I don't understand. Everybody get your Beach Boys ready. We're going to Kokomo. Ken in Kokomo, Indiana. What's up, Ken? Hi, Rich. Thanks.

Now everybody's coming. Yeah, I know. I shouldn't do that, but okay. Yeah. Three things real fast about the officiating, okay?

One is right away. Brockman mentioned the sack on Mahomes. And how is that different from the one on Brady? It wasn't.

I think we can agree there is no difference. Jeffers called it right. Boger called it wrong. And I think Boger will probably get a ding, which is a downgrade. That was a total... Jeffers didn't get it right.

Ken, I'm... No, no, no. I'm talking about the one on Mahomes. Oh, wait, Chuck them, just like Brady. Yeah, I agree.

I don't think that's a rough either. I mean, Mahomes can be thrown around. Yeah, I agree with you. Okay, my bad. If Boger ruled the way Jeffers did on Mahomes, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

That's correct. Except for the one that got called in Cleveland. And there have been others that have happened during this playing season. The point where I wanted to talk about this last week, but other items... I've added my notes right here to talk about it.

So it was a no-brainer to hit it yesterday, you know? Number two, on the Chris Jones thing, I think the problem is the philosophy of roughing the passer. The one thing that is common to the Brady play and the Derek Carr play is that the foul is roughing the passer and neither one will pass. Well, thank you for the call, Ken. My colleague Tom Pelosaro said Chris Jones was the first person he thinks that's ever been called for roughing the passer while holding the football. Look, I'll just say it again. These referees are well-intentioned, as is the rule for roughing the passer.

Okay? We don't want to see Chad Henny go against Josh Allen next week. Not even Chad Henny wants to see that.

Right, I mean, honestly, we don't want to see... You know, we just don't want to see it. So that's the whole point of roughing the passer penalties. But it's as simple as, is there a malicious intent to hit the guy late?

Is there something going on? And so you need that help if in real time it's so difficult to determine when you have real long-standing professionals like Jerome Boger and Carl Jeffers blowing it. Get him some help. Refs helping refs. Hosts helping colleagues.

There you go. Me helping you. RAS Consulting. How am I helping you? You can ask me that question. How are you helping? Go ahead and ask me the question.

Rich, how are you helping me? Who in this room on this program has been chipping away at... Cooper Rush should be the starting quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, no matter if Dak's healthy or not. Who's that person chipping away at that?

Constantly chipping away at that. Well, the first one was Brockman, but he said it kind of tongue-in-cheek. I don't think he truly believed it. Do you believe it? Do you believe it?

Do you believe it? The proof is in the record. Okay. All right. Very good.

Well, if that's the case, then that's the case. Help me help you. Okay.

Help me. Bill Belichick today in New England on a Greg Hill show. You've heard of that program? Heard of that.

Okay. Apparently he makes an appearance every week. And Bill asked on this broadcast about Mac Jones getting the gig back when fully healthy. It took one Bailey Zappi shutout of the Lions. An almost Zappi-like lightning strike in Lambeau for this question to be posed.

A little different than the Esthers in New England. I'm just saying. Listen for the complete denial. Listen for the tamp down. The putting out the fire. No controversy. Listen for it. You might not hear it. All right. Here's the answer.

Yeah. I'm not going to get into a lot of hypotheticals on, you know, all different things that might or might not happen and all that. I think, you know, that's just to me a waste of time, but, you know, I'm not going to sit around here and dream up, you know, scenarios and all that. We'll take things as they come and go from there. He just said he's not going to do it. Well, what he said, I'm not going to go through. If he's asked, Mac Jones, is he going to get the start again when he's fully healthy?

Sure, of course, he's our number one guy. Oh, really? Now you want Bill to give a real answer when there's 20 years of evidence that he doesn't do it?

I will actually give you the answer that what I believe he might really be thinking deep down. Maybe Zappi's the guy. Do you not recall? A quarterback who once got a nine-figure salary around these parts? I remember one. Do you remember a guy who actually took this franchise to a Super Bowl once upon a time who got that contract?

And then I became the coach here and some kid from the University of Michigan was on my team. Stop it. What do you mean stop it? His answer is absolutely like he could have easily said, Max, my guy, let's stop this question. Because Bill always gives straightforward answers. Mac is already, didn't somebody already say during the training camp season, he thought he heard cornerback and it was, he thought he heard quarterback and somebody was asking about his cornerback and he's just like, Mac's the guy.

He said it during the training camp season. It's been one game. Hey, bro, it's the same thing. If it's good for us, it happens to you.

It's not the same thing. It is. Zappi, days are here. Days are here again.

Like silk or you could go like the Fonz during Zappi days. Mac Jones is starting this week and they're going to beat the Browns. Was Mac Jones starting this week? Because I don't know. That sounds like a hypothetical to me. And we're not entertaining those. Tuesday is my help. I'm trying to help you. Come on, come on, come on.

Don't just stick a toe in the water. Get in there. I said, I said yesterday, his team has a QB controversy going on. Oh, I was too busy about the Jets.

This is the subject matter. We have been on for the last. Don't worry. Be Zappi. Don't worry. Be Zappi. Note for note. Oh yeah, little Bobby McFerrin reference, taking us to hour three.

Because when you're Zappi, your face will frown. Seriously, Chris, you didn't tamp it down at all. He did by saying, I'm not going to entertain this. He said, well, there's not going to be any hypotheticals.

What's the hypothetical he won't entertain? Is there a quarterback controversy? Yes.

What do you mean? He shut it down. What do you guys, did you not hear that?

You have too much hot sauce in your ears? Excuse me. Hold on. He had an opportunity to say, he did. He basically laughed on it. Like, this is a ridiculous question. He said, I don't deal in hypotheticals. You're not going to get it.

Meaning what? I thought he spoke Belichick. I do speak Belichick. His answer is like, what's he going to do? Say, Brack Jones is definitely the guy. Once upon a time, why can't Zappi be Brady 2.0? He doesn't want you to know. He doesn't want you to know. I'm with Chris.

I love it. Just because his last name is Zappi? I'm with you, Chris. This is Bill.

Ladies and gentlemen, The Who. It's Zappi Jack. Got it. Great. What's more, Zappi Jack? Zappi Jack?

I'm going to take down both your teams, man. What was that? Was that a Willie Eames movie? Zapped. Scott Baio was silly, wasn't it? Zapped.

We don't traffic in Scott Baio. He's Zappied. This whole situation has been totally Zappied. This is Zappied up.

I'm trying to help you out here. Man. The kids couldn't hurt Zappied. 2014, Zappied was redone, I think.

They tried, tried, tried. Oh, baby. Zendaya. Taking on the Browns, huh?

Belichick? Zappi-era is here. Zappied will have a family reunion with Zappi. Ross Matthews talks to celebrities, friends, and people with interesting stories to tell. Who's saying, hello, Ross, this week?

Chelsea Handler. I'm not home enough to have a third dog. My housekeeper basically is their parent. I am not going to get another dog so that she has to take care of another dog until one of these dogs exits.

It's a good move. I have three rescue dogs and only two hands. And when you're one person, that's too hard to do.

I recommend two max. Okay. Where's your foot, Ross? Hello, Ross. Available on YouTube or wherever you listen.