REShow: Hour 1 (8-2-2022)

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Yes, it is. Welcome to this edition of the Rich Eisen Show here in Los Angeles, California. We, I mean, my gosh, there's lots going on in just the last 10 minutes time. This is the way we're coming on the program here on NBC Sports on Peacock. NBC Sports Audio Sirius XM Channel 85. We say hello to our terrestrial radio listeners coast to coast here. Thanks to our friends at Westwood One and Cumulus, which also distributes our podcasts. You can get all three hours of this show on podcast form, where all podcasts are required, thanks to the Cumulus Podcast Network. Our Odyssey app is white hot to the touch as well, if you want to listen to us through there. And then YouTube, our YouTube page has your back on anything that you may miss.

YouTube.com slash Rich Eisen Show. Christopher, how are you over there, sir? I'm trying to keep track of everything that's happening right now. In the last 15 minutes as well, DJ Mikey D is in D's nuts. That's right, good to see you. TJ Jefferson light the candle because there's a, the sports world just had the candle lit. Good to see you, sir.

Good to see you over there. You got to open your mic because you have your own control now. Careful. Okay, so about a half an hour ago, word breaks that the San Diego Padres, once upon a time, small market, poor mouth, Padres. They couldn't hold on to anybody. They couldn't hold on to anybody.

They weren't going to be competing. I mean, they had Jack Murphy Stadium. Now they got that beautiful jewel of a spot for the last, who knows, decade plus, right?

Amazing stadium. I mean, people in San Diego know. But anyway, and now suddenly they're taking.

They're not selling, they're taking. Josh Hader, the Brewers are like, we don't want to pay him. We're not going to pay him. Who wants him? Oh, San Diego, you'll pay him. Good. Take him.

Trade. Now Juan Soto and Josh Bell. The Nationals like to just ditch a whole bunch of people on Southern California teams. Last year it was Trey Turner and it was Max Scherzer together to the Dodgers and they're still there.

And that's why we kind of, well, Trey Turner is still there. The Scherzer is now in the Mets. And that's why we kind of have to hold our breath because Scherzer was a Padre for hot men around this time last year.

And then he was a Dodger. But according to all reports, Juan Soto and Josh Bell are San Diego Padres. And the question might be, well, for who? And my answer is, I don't care. You shouldn't either if you're San Diego. We're learning the compensation right now, slowly but surely. And it shouldn't matter.

It doesn't matter. Because this guy is generationally brilliant and now Fernando Tatís has taken some batting practice. Just this week he's going to come back from his fractured wrist shortly because they're thinking of putting him on a rehab assignment starting this weekend. And the Padres are in a playoff position right now. So it looks like in October, the gauntlet of Tatís, Machado and Soto. That's quite a law firm, the Machado, Soto and Tatís Esquires.

Back to back to back in Atlanta. Mackenzie Gore, they just paid this kid and you're a national. Robert Hassell III, no relation to Thurston Howell III, I don't believe. Nice. CJ Abrams, James Woods, I thought he got kicked off of Twitter a while ago.

I know. Jarlin Susana and a player to be named, doesn't matter, man. Player to be named, Eric Hosmer.

It doesn't matter. Looks like he's going. Is that the player?

Is he going to? I think so, yeah. Wow. Reports are saying it's Eric Hosmer. Well.

The final player. Okay. Poor Hosmer is probably like, I thought I had a shot in another World Series here. Wow.

So. Congratulations, Padres fans, you've got yourself a juggernaut in the middle of that lineup. Pitched well and you got yourself a World Series contender. They're so far back of the Dodgers, you're not going to win the division right now.

It would take a total collapse by the Dodgers, doesn't matter how many games the Padres win. But when rubber meets road in the playoffs, here we go. So Soto's going there and just when you thought that was the biggest story of the day, Commissioner Roger Goodell sent out a release about discipline and it has nothing to do with Deshaun Watson.

Nope. I will read to you from the email I recently received on my NFL email account. NFL announces findings and discipline following independent investigation of integrity of the game policy violations by the Miami Dolphins.

Yeah, let's not forget the whole to-do that kind of kicked off this crazy-ass year in the NFL as soon as everything kind of died down in the regular season and we're matriculating our way through the playoffs and just after. Brian Floor is fired by the Dolphins out of the blue and then he files suit alleging that the Dolphins had some interesting contact with a star player on a boat and things like that and a three-hour tour and, you know, Miami's version of the Gilligan's Island. And the tiny ship was lost and that ship was the Miami Dolphins in, apparently as well, 2019 when Flores says that owner Stephen Ross offered him $100,000 for every game that he would lose so they could tank for what wound up to be, I guess, Tua instead of Burrow. And according to the NFL, okay, Mary Jo White, former U.S. attorney and SEEC chair and a team of lawyers looked into this. They looked into whether the Dolphins violated league rules prohibiting tampering with a player and a coach under contract to other clubs and whether during the 2019 season the Dolphins intentionally lost games to improve the club's draft position in the 2020 draft. The tampering does indeed involve the two people that everybody's been talking about, a charge led by our friend that kicks off this here NBC Sports on Peacock Rondelet every day and Mike Florio. Oh, you bet. The league says the Dolphins had impermissible communications with one Tom Brady and it started when he was a Patriot.

Yo. As early as August 2019 and throughout the 2019 season and postseason, numerous and detailed discussions were conducted by Mr. Beal, not Howard, the famed former, may he rest in peace, UBS news anchor. No, they're referring to a member of the Dolphins minority ownership, Bruce Beal, Dolphins vice chairman and limited partner. They talked to Tom Brady when he was a Patriot, Chris. This had nothing to do at the moment with the Buccaneers.

Although they talked to him then, too. Until we look at the paragraph below and the Dolphins again had impermissible communications with both Brady and his agent during the 2021 season and he was under contract to the Bucs. The discussions began no later than early December 2021, focused on Brady becoming a limited partner in the Dolphins and possibly serving as a football executive, although at times they included the possibility of him playing for the Dolphins. And in January 2022, they had impermissible communications with our friend Don Yee, the agent of the Saints head coach Sean Payton. So the Payton-Brady gambit, according to the NFL, did indeed actually 1000% happen and the Dolphins are now being smacked down by it. Tampering violations of unprecedented scope and severity, Commissioner Goodell said, I know of no prior instance of a team violating the prohibition on tampering with both the head coach and a star player to the potential detriment of multiple other clubs over a period of several years. Similarly, I know of no prior instance in which ownership was so directed involved in the violations.

So directly involved. Wow. Now they did say that the Dolphins did not intentionally lose the games during the 2019 season, nor did anybody, including Mr. Ross, instruct Coach Flores to do so.

No witness contended otherwise. The Dolphins competed hard to win every game, including the end of the season when they beat Cincinnati and New England, despite worsening Miami's position in the 2020 draft. Thus, no shot at Joe Burrow, right? Correct.

Kicking off to and on to this very day. During the 2019 season, on a number of occasions, Mr. Ross expressed his belief that the Dolphins position in the upcoming draft should take priority over the team's win loss record. It sounds like asking the tank to me.

The comments were made most frequently to team president and CEO Tom Garfinkel. Wait a minute. That's no relation to Ray or Art Finkel.

No relation to that Dolphin great. Right? Laces out?

Laces out. But they were also made to Chris Greer, the GM, senior vice president, Brandon Shore, and Coach Flores. The comments, which he took to be suggestions that he lose games troubled Coach Flores, led him to express his concerns in writing. Man, he's not messing around, clearly. To senior club execs, each of whom has short floors that everyone, including Mr. Ross, supported him in building a winning culture in Miami. After this, Mr. Ross no longer made any such comments to Coach Flores.

I don't even need to laugh. Yeah, I bet not. He put it in writing.

That's a paper trail. One such comment is claimed offered by Mr. Ross to pay Coach Flores $100,000 to lose games. Ah, now there are differing recollections about the wording, timing, and context. However phrased, such a comment was not intended or taken to be a serious offer, nor is the subject pursued in any respect by Mr. Ross or anyone else at the club. Yeah, he's just joshing around.

You know, I think we should, we should, you know, we should pay more attention to our draft position than actually winning this game. He says to other people in the building, come on. We're not teaching that at the Ross School of Business, are we? I mean, he's an old man. He just says things, you know what I'm saying? Although that is a transaction.

Maybe that is a course that they could teach at my alma mater where his name's all over the place. Hey, it is a business deal. Better to lose than to win. Even when you lose, you win. Isn't that the line from? Love of our ball. No, no, no.

Or even if you lose, you win. That's why men can't jump to. That's actually, that's Raging Bull. That's Joe Pesci to.

I never knew that. It's everybody. So what, what does this all mean? The Dolphins are going to cough up next year's first round draft choice. See ya.

Bye bye. And then a third round selection in the 2024 NFL draft. Stephen Ross has got to be out of the building starting now to October 17th, 2022. And he gets a 1.5 million dollar fine. Can't go to any meetings. Kicked off all league committees. Until October? Or indefinitely for the meetings? Yeah, yeah, man.

Does this seem a little light to you guys? Dude, I mean, well, I mean, then forcing someone to sell, I guess he can't do that. And a million and a half dollars is. What's that? Yeah, I mean, it's a mere bag of shells when you're talking about meeting Tom Brady on your yacht. But it's the max a lot.

But it's the max a lot. I mean, this is what, this is what he could do. I mean, what's he going to do? He's took away a first round draft choice is significant, dude.

Even when you lose, I win. That's significant. But everyone's going to take this and say Deshaun Watson got six games and he got more for tampering. And it's, again, it's a different silo of, of. Different rules, I guess.

Different rules and a different silo and different precedences. And this is something that Roger Goodell could do. And he's going to have to chime in on Deshaun Watson in short order anyway.

But man, he reached, I mean, go on with your bad self, huh? Just reach out to Tom Brady whenever you want. And by the way, Tom had every chance to go to Miami, didn't he?

Right? When he left New England. He had every chance to do it. He didn't. He went to Tampa instead.

I wonder how that one landed on the yacht. And then what did happen when Tom was thinking of retiring? He'll handle it easily by saying, you know, I didn't go there and I'm just talking about the season football questions, please. Does he speak today?

I know he spoke yesterday. I don't know. Jenna Lane pointed out the Dolphins and Bucks have joint practices starting soon. Well, it looks like they had a lot of other joint things going on, unbeknownst to the Buccaneers.

That's what it seems like to me. This is just wild. It was a Stephen. It was Stephen.

It was a Stephen Ross joint. Just like, what do you mean? Come on, man. He's going to reach out to what do you think Bob Kraft thinks about this, by the way?

There's everyone in division. Tom's thinking of leaving. He's thinking of leaving New England.

I mean, you're messing with the forces of nature, to use the phrase from network. He's messing with Tom Brady's exit from New England. How do you think this lands with Bob Kraft? Does everyone believe now that the Dolphin stuff is true?

Does this actually cement it for everyone? Well, they're losing a draft choice. Will ESPN cover this now?

I imagine they will forfeit it. Hey, now. To use the phrase that pays up in New England.

A little different scenario. Oh, my word. What are the Dolphins thinking?

What are you doing? You know, reaching out to Tom Brady as he's leaving New England saying, hey, how about you come down here? Whoa. Does Brian Flores have a smile on his face today? Well, he's proven right. And so then what else in his lawsuit is right? Right.

Exactly. Man, he wasn't messing around, firing off letters within that building. And of course, Stephen Ross has got it in for him. If his coach is going to take that stuff and immediately start writing letters and creating a paper trail. No wonder Stephen Ross wasn't a Brian Flores fan, but good for him, man. That's church bells right there ringing. On his part. Wow. And I don't know, maybe should Miami have lost two first round draft choices?

One for each star? Like you're talking about the... I mean, who's more tenured? Brady in obviously New England since 2000 and the Saints coach since 06?

You're just knocking on their doors when they're under contract? Here's my favorite line from this thing, too. Brockman, what up, though? How about this one? I didn't read this line. I didn't read this line about about what they did with Sean Payton. Here you go. They contacted Payton, or Payton's agent, about having Mr. Payton serve as Miami's head coach. Miami did not seek consent from New Orleans to have these discussions, which occurred before Coach Payton announced his decision to retire as head coach of the Saints. Here we go.

Following that announcement, Miami requested permission to speak to Coach Payton for the first time. And here's the last one. This is it. Which New Orleans declined to grant? Yeah. Yeah, we're not interested in that. Oh, now you're just going to knock on the door, huh? Ding dong. Because you don't think they knew that they reached out to Sean?

Of course they did. Everybody knows everything in this league because everybody talks. Like some chatty cafes in the NFL, right? Oh, man. So those Dolphins Patriots games will have an interesting twist to it.

Although, Stephen Ross, will he be there for the – he won't be there for the opener. Come on, man. I understand all's fair in, what, love and war, that old phrase, but come on, man. Come on. This is awesome. Yep.

This is awesome. Yep. And then Stephen Ross tries to get Deshaun Watson in the middle of all this.

Wow. Maybe they'll be better off with him sitting on the sideline for two months. Just get him out and just figure out – like, let Mike McDaniel with all of this other stuff and whatever he might be knocking on the door and saying to executives and causing his coach to create paper trails, just try and play some football games.

So that's the latest there. Tom Pelissaro of the NFL Media Group, perfect timing. He's going to call us in a couple minutes. We were just going to talk to Deshaun Watson with him, but now there's so much more to talk about. Also on this program, we have Dalvin Cook of the Minnesota Vikings, that team that nobody's talking about. The comedian Paul Verzi will be here in studio.

He's got a hot new Netflix special as well, premiered this summer, directed by Pete Davidson. And then who better to talk about the passing of Bill Russell? We check in with the great Shaquille O'Neal in hour number two of this program. Chris Brockman's got a news update because there's a lot going on. Trade deadline is later on tonight in Major League Baseball. News poppin'.

Let's take a break. And you can chime in on it too. 844-204-RICH. Number to dial on everything going on here in the sports world. Tom Pelissaro and his fantastic hair and information.

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All right. Tom Pelissaro will join us shortly on the program. So... Yeah, tracking him down. Yeah, he's on call, so he may or may not be able to do the show right now. Oh, gotcha. On call to appear on the network.

So, yeah, he's on set right now. So let me just say, while we're waiting for Mr. Pelissaro, who will either join us today or not, what is happening right now in the league office with Roger Goodell is he's making a choice here. The one that I think he wants to do, no matter what, is raise Sue Robinson, the judge who ruled on Watson's suspension. He'd like to raise the suspension from six games. I believe it, obviously.

I don't have any talks, haven't connected with anybody at 345 Park Avenue in a minute. But the court of public opinion mandates that Roger Goodell do this. And I think Roger Goodell also thinks six games is light. Why would I think that? Because the league asked Sue Robinson for a full year with conditions set that Watson would have to meet in order to get reinstated.

So it would be an open ended suspension. And she went with six games. And if you read her opinion, it looks like it was going to be more than six games right up until she wrote the word six games. Because Sue Robinson found that Deshaun Watson met the NFL's description in the collective bargaining agreement of what constitutes sexual assault. That she agreed that by all accounts, and she just had four cases placed in front of her out of all of the cases that Watson had placed upon him and knew of the figure of more than 60 masseuses that he had contacted through Instagram. And she agreed that Watson looked on Instagram for masseuses without even checking on these individuals' qualifications to massage a star athlete like Watson.

And she also agreed that he would, instead of using the usual sheet for draping, a small towel that would be much easier to fall off. I mean, everything that you would assume and believe in reading these accounts of what Watson was doing, she agreed this happened and did not at all ascribe any credibility to Watson's complete denial of innocence of this happening and complete claiming of his innocence and that nothing happened untoward, nothing that would constitute a violation of the conduct policy. She came down hard about that, on that. And also said that Watson had predatory behavior. That's why she put in there that he can't get massages by anybody except a club official, somebody who's from the club, any club member of the Browns. It's the only people who can work out the knots.

Only Browns issued Theraguns may be applied. So it looks like she's about to bring down a hammer. And then there's a full on conversation I will not bore you with, but clearly the Players Association made a compelling case that the precedence for nonviolent sexual behavior was just three games based on other people and what they've been suspended for in the past, all using precedence. And she even admitted this is an unprecedented case in terms of the amount of overwhelming evidence and facts that point to Watson deserving more. So she doubled what was apparently the standard for nonviolent sexual behavior and thus six games. And I'm really trying to boil it all down and simplify it for you, but that's where things went from the hammer to six games. And now the commissioner is left with a decision and many people just like bring down the hammer, do it. Well, if he does, then all of the precedence that the judge used to come up with just six games and part of the precedence is again, is that it used to be such a mess. And the NFL used to change the goalposts as to what somebody can get suspended for this behavior depending on the way court of public opinion weighed in.

And she's mentioned that that's not fair. The Ray Rice case once upon a time was just two games, then it went to six. So the league would like to do away with all that. That's why they collectively bargain to have Sue Robinson and others like her handle this and then always leave something in the hands of the commissioner in case the arbitrator came up with something so off the charts that the commissioner would always have in his back pocket, the ability to have control of the situation, which is his right.

He's the commissioner of the NFL. So does Roger Goodell now come in and say, we don't move the goalposts around here, but I have to step in. And now suddenly the new collective bargaining agreement way of doing things still places things in his lap and he still does what he wants to do. And the players association and others can say, this is his gambit all along.

And this process is not legitimate. And this winds up in court. And as Albert Breer pointed out, there could be a temporary restraining order placed while this all gets adjudicated. And Watson plays football to start the season as opposed to the six games that you're definitely going to have them sit right now. That's what's being weighed right now in the league office. I think doubling the suspension to 12 games, hey Deshaun, you could still play this year.

Hey Browns, your season's not completely over. I mean, all you got to do is just go six and six, right? I mean, and then he comes back and, or, and then you go ahead and say, sue me. Would the players association sue because it's in the collective bargaining agreement. This is his right to do this. The full game, the full year, I think would absolutely bring a lawsuit. And I think the court of public opinion is so significant.

I know what my voice, what I've been saying with mine, and I see what others are saying as well. I think it's so significant what's going on that doubling the suspension is the way to go. That something has to be done. You can't, it's not enough six games and then no fine, no fine. You know, I saw what our friend Will Compton of Busting with the Boys said. He's just like, what? Six games?

He's like, that's a, that's a vacation. It's nothing. Everybody's pointing out that Calvin Ridley's gotten for four figures of parlays on his own team apparently. Again, there's a different silo for each infraction. There's a silo for PEDs. There's a silo for competition, integrity. I believe that's what was the silo in which Steven Ross got caught. Like the end of Witness.

That's the only pop culture reference to a silo I can make, by the way, if you ever saw Witness. I mean, it's a good one. Very difficult one.

Mending. Spoiler alert. So you, you're going to compare and contrast. I'm just telling you, that's why more suspensions are more significant than what Deshaun Watson is getting. It's a personal conduct policy. As you just read, just read her, her report, Sue Robinson's report, she's talking about precedents and things like that. I say hell with precedents. You're seeing that in the Supreme Court and do what you need to do and let the chips fall. Because I think that's what most consumers of National Football League action and football are asking for.

And just one last reminder, too. The league is not a judge and jury court of law. They're not the police and they're not attorneys general. They're the league that has their own policy because it's their own business they're trying to run. And if you have a problem with Deshaun Watson's getting off scot-free, then talk to the, the, the authorities in Houston who didn't charge him.

Talk to those folks. NFL didn't do that. Sometimes it's misplaced anger and the league's running a business.

And so you're running a business and you've got a once upon a time dynamite pillar of the community, which, you know, he still can be, I mean, in Cleveland, I assume he is going to still do terrific public works as he did in Houston without the, you know, private works that he was up to. And what he did and what the independent arbitrator agreed he did to me deserves more than six games and screw presidents. But the league, this is what they're weighing. And I don't, I don't blame them because this is something that was collectively bargained. The commissioner does have the right to do this. Does he want to do this in the first instance with the whole world watching?

Does he just want to accept this thing and move on? So at least this is a process that everyone thinks that, you know, is legit, which personally I think is. I mean, they, they, they made their case in front of a bona fide judge who made her ruling that I think isn't strong enough. And he has a collectively bargained right to make it stronger. So that's it.

Cause I think he should make it stronger. 844-204 Rich, number to dial. I'm seeing Tom Pelissaro on the air right now.

That's what he's up to. Let's go to Sean in Seattle. You're here on the Rich Eyes show. What's up, Sean? Hey Rich. How's it going?

Hanging in there. It's on your mind, sir. Um, I just wanted to weigh in on the Deshaun Watson thing. And one of the things you said yesterday and you repeated today is it's not enough.

And to me, that raises the question of what is enough. And I just don't know that there's a number of games that he could miss that's going to make me okay with watching him play football. So heaven forbid the Browns are good. Um, I'd hate to have to be put in a situation where like they're in the playoffs and I'm skipping playoff games. No, I know. And I appreciate your, your, your having, I guess, a moral question within you. You're already seeing fans yesterday who were like almost knocked over a fence looking for his autograph.

And I understand that you can't, you know, spell fanatics without fan in it. And, and, and clearly the Browns are going to start him in week seven, if nothing happens and off we go and thanks for the call. And if anybody sit here thinks it's going to stick with Deshaun Watson forever, it will in the minds of some, but I'll just say this when Ben Roethlisberger retired and strolled off into the sunset, how many people in the mainstream media were talking about what happened with him and in Georgia back at the end of the previous decade, I mean, some people were, but not everybody, you know, football games get played and he wasn't criminally charged and he serves as suspension with the NFL, which by the way, last year, I'm also seeing people, well, he didn't play last year. That was his own doing. He told the Texans, I don't want to play for you. And the league by the way, could have put him on an administrative leave the entire time on the commissioner's exempt list. And he wouldn't have gotten a dime, you know, or that you actually wait, you, you, you sit on the list and you get paid. But he, he, he just sat off on the side and he, it was his doing and the Texans made it his doing too.

They agreed. You're here. We'll pay you just don't come to work.

If you don't want to come to work and we don't want you here either. Let's go to, uh, Brian and Miami. You're here on the Rich Eisen show, eight, four, four, two Oh four rich number to dial. What's up, Brian. What's going on gentlemen. What's going on?

Chris TJ. What's up everybody? Hey, first time caller, long time listener, uh, just two quick questions. One you alluded to Brian Flores being correct on some of his allegations.

You foresee any other issues coming up with that? And second, is it time to just wrap a bow on the Padres winning the world series this year? Ah, I don't think we're wrapping a bow on that. I haven't even wrapped my bow on the Yankees just yet, to be honest with you, you know, and thanks for the call, Brian.

I know I've been having my fun here, but you know, we're, we're in that part of the season where injuries are hitting and taking their child. And by the way, Cashman has made some terrific maneuvers. He's held onto the three top prospects in the organization and he got Ben attendee from the Royals and they got Frankie Montas and Lou Trevino. I know that was big. And they got that F Ross guy, Scott F Ross from the, from the Cubs, who's got one pitch that breaks from right to left and one pitch that breaks from left to right.

It's insane. And I saw that, that video on Twitter where F Ross throws this and pitches just go all over the place. Got two arms for the pen and they got a frontline stud pitcher and they got a left handed bat. So I'm, I, I'm not penciling the Yankees in for the world series yet either. So the Padres have got a long way to go. They're not winning the division. They're going to have to go most likely on the road to start a wildcard series unless they, they wind up in the top position wildcard spot.

But you know, I'm not penciling in the Padres. And in terms of what else for, for Brian Flores, I mean, his lawsuit's still going in it. Yeah, I believe so. I do want to ask you about that. I don't want to take a break. I do have a question. I do have a question after that. Stephen Ross has made a statement, so we'll do on all that and the NFL network is with this breaking news.

Pelissaro is going to join us either later on today or another day, but two draft picks due to violations of the integrity of game policy, including a first rounder next year, there will just be 31 first round picks next year. That's it. How about that? Orfitted. And that's it, eight four four two oh four rich number to dial as well.

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That's ridiculous. He's the, he's the one being tampered with, but he was engaging in talks. Steven Ross. You may not talk to me because I'm under contract to the new England Patriots and Bob craft, but he's listening a break. Give me a break. He's listening. I shouldn't listen to you. I shouldn't listen to you at all. Steven Ross, university of Michigan, man, someone who's on the radio in Boston is saying that Brady quit on the paths in 2019. This is absurd.

Tom Brady. You, you, Steven, this is, this is wrong, Steven. You shouldn't talk to me. You shouldn't talk to me. No, no, no, no. You shall not talk to me because I'm under contract here in new England. Quit on new England. Give me a break, man.

I don't feel that way. I'm just saying. You tell me who was that, but whoever, who said that, this is, uh, this is, uh, Ken Laird is on WEA.

Very good. So give me, Ken needs to show me the place where he was. He was not, uh, he was giving up on new England. The one where he threw, he threw an interception and his final play, um, for the Patriots was over.

I know that. So when you give up, you're like, I'm not going to throw an interception as my last play. I'm not going to add another interception to my playoff list. I'm not going to risk it. The game's over.

Why am I going to do that? Honestly? Come on, man.

That's what happens when somebody gives up and not try to force one in and, and, and your last throw as a new England Patriot is a pick also like they, they won the super bowl in 2018 and then in 2019, he quits on the team, but the team wasn't that good that year. He also was informed beforehand that the contract that you're looking forward to, you know, to keep you here, you're not getting so Steven Ross knocks on his door. No, we, we cannot talk. Well, you're going to blame the person who's being tampered with. He's taking the phone calls. Are you kidding me?

I don't know. I mean, I've been involved in so many negotiations where I'm not supposed to hear from somebody and you know, okay, come on, man. You're supposed to, I just think it's fair to wonder how this makes Tom Brady look. I think it makes him look like a businessman who's answering phone calls that were, shouldn't have been placed to him.

What's he supposed to be doing? No, no, no, no. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a new England Patriot, sir. You may not contact me. Don't do that. That's against the rules. The owner of the, the dolphins should not be calling the all time grade of the Patriots.

How does that sound? So what? I mean, anybody who's being tampered with is now, is now, is now subject to scorn? I mean, one call he asked, do we know how many calls, how many times was he actually tampered with? You know what I mean?

I have no idea. I mean, you take one call. Hey, we have a conversation.

What do you think about coming to Miami? Yeah, you probably shouldn't call me about this. You shouldn't. Maybe you said that to him. Prank caller, prank caller. He showed up on the boat though, huh? I mean, it's on the boat.

I mean, everybody loves a boat. So Brady shouldn't be, Brady should not be looking out for himself and should not be answering calls that it's on incumbent upon the caller to not make. Is that what I'm going to understand? Everybody who's out there under contract in their business should not receive phone calls from anybody who wants to contract them for their services because it's tampering in the world in which they work.

Is that what I understand? Caller is worse than the callee. Caller is making the call. We don't know how many calls were placed to Brady during 2019.

It seems like there's a lot. And even if Brady's going back and forth. I mean, they did it twice.

They did it when he was with New England and with the Bucks. Everybody knew Brady. You knew Brady wasn't staying, right?

2019? I told you guys he wasn't retiring either. Yeah.

That's true. Well, he had apparently greater plans. I don't know how that, by the way, I don't know how that was going to work. What like, we'll make this plan on the boat. Sean, you're going to come and coach us and Tom, you're going to come and quarterback us and then you'll get a piece of the team. We'll make this deal.

And then, then we'll go to the Bucks and the Saints and say, this is what these guys want. Here we'll figure out compensation. We illegally arranged all this. Cat's now out of the bag.

It's a fait accompli. You now need to, what compensation do you want from us? And my compensation, if I was one of the other teams, would be to get somebody to serve papers on another. Where are you going to be around 12 o'clock? I'm going to send somebody over to your house with my answer and they will be legal papers thrown at them. You've been served. Or you call up the commissioner and say, what's going on?

How do you feel about it? You're the Patriot fan. You have a problem with Brady answering a phone call or dealing with Stephen Ross to see if he'll go to the Miami Dolphins, which by the way, when he had, hold on a second, when he had the opportunity to do it, did he do it? No, he went to Tampa. That's correct. Because they're a better team. That's right.

They're a better team than New England. I think it was clear during 2019 that Tom wasn't coming back. Right. So 20 years and six rings, he can do whatever he wants. Last year. Did he give up on the Bucks? No, they were down 27 to 3.

And then what'd he do? Tied the game. Yeah. Okay. Right. Uh-huh.

Right. So I guess if he's being tampered with by Stephen Ross in a season and this individual in Boston says that that's an indication that he gave up on New England, then I guess his MO was to give up on the team while he's being tampered with by Stephen Ross, right? Did that look to be the case in Tampa last year?

No, but if it's from the get-go, if Tampa was a two-year stop before he went to Miami. You know who the person should be most upset by all this is? Well, Mike McDaniel and Tua? Yes, sir.

Yeah. Salty Tua. Found Tua. Found Tua, I will go to Stephen Ross's house and say, let's have it out, brother. Let's have it out.

You're the football expert, huh? So let's have it out. Let's have it out. What do you got against me?

Like what eye in the sky are you seeing? He's not Tom Brady. And not Deshaun Watson, huh?

And I think that's fair. He's not. As a football player? You drafted him. You wanted to tank enough games to go get me. You got me. Well, because they didn't think Justin Herbert was any good.

Or they were maybe trying to tank for Burrow. I don't know. But if I'm Tua, I'm like, what gives? Okay, so I'm working my ass off. I don't know if you heard, but I broke my hip. I rehabbed. You drafted me anyway. I don't know if you heard, but Tyreek Hill thinks I'm the most accurate passer in the league. What gives?

I got to look over my shoulder for Brady next year as a 46-year-old? Is that what's going on? Just tell me. Or he can't have that conversation with him because he's out until October 17th.

If I'm Tua, that's what I'm having. You know? Hey, Stephen Ross, what's up?

So it's wild, man. What a league. The narrative-generating machine that is the National Football League. So Shaquille O'Neal, next hour, here on the Rich Eisen Show to talk about the passing of Bill Russell.

We haven't caught up with Shaq in a while. Dalvin Cook is going to join us from the Minnesota Vikings, the comedian Paul Verzi in studio. He's a diehard New York sports fan like you and I, Mike Del Tufo, although you got the jersey in you. Can't quit Rutgers. I understand. I hate Rutgers. They didn't let me in the school. I understand.

That's how we're rolling. It's hour number two. They didn't let me in. Did Mr. Pelissaro call in? Yeah, we got two minutes with Tom and his segment on tape. I mean, you're there, Tom Pelissaro? You there? Rich, it's been a long couple of days.

Dude, dude. So are you, I don't know, are you, you're not free at the top of the next hour. I imagine you're locked in NFL Network top of the next hour, right? We're doing some TV at the top of the hour. But later on next hour, we potentially could talk more. Okay.

I think I'd like to do that. I can't summarize the past two days. 90 seconds here. No, I know. Yes.

In 50 seconds, tell me about Deshaun Watson and Steven Ross. Go. No, you know what I mean?

That's, that's absurd. So here's the deal, Tom. You know, during the commercial break, I'll text you and I'll see if we can have you on today. If not today, then tomorrow.

This, this stuff is still as fresh as possible. All right. All right.

As Tom posts, everybody, give him a round of applause for just being a guy who wants to make his appointed round. He's a good man. His hair is perfect.

His hair is perfect. Yeah. Like the, the werewolf of Detroit. There you go. Okay. So Hosmer is not in the deal and it's still getting done. Yeah. He said no, and they're still doing the deal. Yeah.

That's the latest there. Good for him because you know what? He'd be like, I'm not going. So you tell Juan Soto, who thinks he's coming here. You already informed everybody. You already called people up from the minor leagues, Washington. You figured out someone else to throw in and I'll stay here in San Diego and I'll win a world series with you.

Good for you, Eric Hosmer. Way to stand your ground. Plan B right?

Little Ken bone plan B. You know, this is just what a day, what a day. None of this was happening about an hour and a half ago either. Nope.

That's why we're on the air live to react. So the red sweater is plan B. There you go. Whoever's coming in instead of Hosmer is the red sweater of this deal. Yeah.

What do you got? This feels like March when... He'll get better. This feels like March when like...

It's going to take TJ a second. This feels like March when all those football trades start happening. It is a hell going on Tuesday. It's just like a hell going on. It's a hell going on Tuesday. Yeah.

It's a hell going on Tuesday. That must mean the NFL's back. There you go.

The Stefan Diggs tweet of March 23rd, 2022, when we learned Tyreek Hill says, I'm out and the Jets and Dolphins suddenly have fully formed deals for him and he decides to join the Dolphins. You're on to Cincinnati. Yeah.

That's right. Oh, by the way, we've gotten a great Belichick press conference moment of the day today. So wild. Man. Oh man.

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