REShow: Tom Curran/David Shaw - Hour 3

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I need it. But you are part of Patriot Nation freaking out over the state of the offense. We spoke to him a couple weeks ago where he's like wait a minute did we see Patricia and Joe Judge calling plays in a preseason game? And then there's a process that Bill Belichick said is going on but he didn't really let us know what the process is all about.

Remember we had that conversation? We said get Tom Curran on the phone. Well now this is a full-on involved fire that's going on right now. How many alarms do you think? I think every last one that there is from what they're just hearing you talk on the Mercedes-Benz van phone line from NBC Sports Boston is our friend Tom Curran.

How you doing Tom? Fully involved fire. Is this the one where the firemen just step back and stand on the sidewalk and watch? That's it. What else are you gonna do?

Let's go guys. The full concentration. Fully involved. Fully involved.

That's the way it looks from outside. What can you tell me? What do you got for me? Well it's um it's so hard to fathom because we have such deference for a guy who is the greatest head coach in NFL history by so many measures certainly Super Bowl era history maybe in American professional sports and to post McDaniel's decide that you're going to pivot the offense to something that might not definitely fit the personnel you have. You're going to pivot the offense with a second year quarterback who had been a pro bowler and in the course of pivoting the offense you're going to have individuals at the forefront of it who really haven't coached a lot of offense so it's hard if any other coach at any other time in any other sport had this combination of decisions we would say is he trying to fail but with Bill you say well I mean he's done some wacky stuff in the past and virtually every time it works out okay so there's still a lot of latitude that I think we all give to Bill where you just you know you don't want to walk the plank and say they're screwed but it doesn't look good my friend. It doesn't so this past weekend what what do we glean anything more because you know you hear reports that they had their worst practices ever in Las Vegas and um so what happened there definitely didn't stay there.

What do you got for me on that? Sure let me give you the timeline they were out there last week in Vegas Tuesday was a horrendous practice they could not manufacture anything offensively against the the Raiders the Patriots put a lot into those joint practices they treat them as seriously as they do the game because they can orchestrate the situation really didn't have any progress at all until the final portion of practice in one two minute 11 on 11 they had to hang on they drove the field and things were good they had a much better practice on Wednesday. Thursday comes and they have the game and they're completely dysfunctional along the offensive line on their two drives so it's a three and out it's a three and then a pick for Mac Jones on a really bad throw and at the end of the first three and out which what's a little disturbing if you're a Patriots fan is that Mac Jones kind of walked into a sack because he got jumpy and it misread the leverage of the block that was in front of him and walked into it so later on in the game again after a little bit of a breakdown up front but not a full-on jailbreak he kind of did one of the flutey Russell Wilson backwards pivot things where he tried to spin it's not going to work with a guy who's running the 4-6 which is still kind of fast but not that fast and ended up being a trash play so I think what's alarming is the cohesiveness on the offensive line is suffering so much that I think Mac Jones is looking at it going I don't really trust these guys which is causing a regression that is becoming very frustrating for him and for the other guys who have continuity on this line. What about the run game? They're gonna have to go back to just running straight ahead they were trying to do the Broncos slash Colts fresh play where they try to get outside and don't block and they're just not having success that was part of the reason the other night first time they tried it they lost four second time they tried it they didn't gain anything and had a hold and then after that once they did you know the straight ahead run game it worked fine but the interesting thing there is their fullback Jacob Johnson they told Jacob in February we're not we're doing away with the fullback we're not going to run that style anymore he's now a raider he was on the other sideline but clearly they can't block the stretch stuff with the season looming do they stick with it in for a dime in for a dollar and say we're just going to bang our head against the wall and say okay real game start we've shown no propensity for being able to do this let's go back to the stuff that kind of works. Well here's here's the the issue Tom is the way that you look at it when when you look at the Patriots over the years they they they don't look great to start and then they start doing their job and it all it all works out in the end on the offensive end of things Brady would be the one that could handle it right now you got a second year pro who um who's got a new somewhat of a new offense right and then play callers who have never done it before with a bunch of people that aren't and I know that this is a silly way to say it but I'll say it aren't lighting up too many fantasy football drafts right because of their incredible innate talent or speed or anything like that there's not a whole bunch of them on the Patriots that's what gives you the sense that this thing is just not fixable right now and that it's something that something that that that can't blossom into what we saw last year what do you think of that concept I think it's on point and I think it we really probably should amplify the Josh McDaniel's component because Bill really didn't have to worry about offense for a long time I mean he was intimately involved and anything that the Patriots did offensively was done with you know Bill's eventual imprimatur he would stamp it and say that's fine but generally speaking it was going to be fine because Bill deferred to Josh McDaniel's to run the offense losing the greatest quarterback of all time who's a human computer was a blow but they still cobbled together an offense that got 12 running touchdowns and eight passing touchdowns from Cam Newton who really can't throw anymore and they went seven and nine then last year again with Josh McDaniel's cobbled together an offense that gets them to nine and four at one point they finished whatever it was 11 and six or yeah 12 and five way be that at the Met um but the McDaniel's component and the Brady component to take two of the most gifted and fluent offensive minds on the planet right now and I do believe that McDaniel's is that I mean you can McDade me all you want you can Shannon in me all you want but none of them ever morphed offenses the way that Josh did um in the course of the in the course of the season so I think that Bill underplayed how easy it would be or how hard it would be and I think he underplayed just how good those two were well then let's flip the script here as well or at least uh what I'm what I've just posited to you Tom Carn that this was the first time if I'm not mistaken that all five starters that they plan on putting on the offensive line for week one against the Dolphins actually played together in the preseason and that and that Matt Jones does have a special ability maybe the dog and him that can start moving this offense uh in a way that we haven't seen in the preseason and that you put it all together the two tight ends are pretty still uh very very good very good uh like the kid Thornton might uh take some tops off of defenses in a way that you just kind of be very surprised that things haven't been fully uncorked yet on offense is that that's what you have to rely on but there are so many I guess to be deflating about that is to say okay they have talented running backs they have talented receivers they have talented wide receivers not top of the line guys but the the compliment is there and the quarterback too but the offensive line even though it's the projected starters Isaiah Wynn has comes off a poor year last year and he's been kind of an enigma during camp Mike and Wenu okay kind of fine pretty much David Andrews has not been as good as he usually is Cole Strange is a rookie and Trump round is good next guy up is Justin Haran who has been tough to watch in this preseason they have to get drastically better but again the interesting thing that Bill set it up this way his play caller slash offensive coordinator is Matt Patricia Matt's also the offensive line coach you can ask somebody to succeed Josh McDaniel's and all his ability and then ask them to do it part-time or to have the offensive line coach part-time it is the most head-scratching litany of decisions you can imagine Rich. Tom Curran NBC Sports Boston insider right here on the Rich. I just wanted to because this is it now like this is it I mean the rubber's now meeting the road you there are no more there are no more preseason reps there's now 13 there's now 13 days for this offense to get ready to you know I assume put up more points than the Dolphins will be able to and that's a very tall order because the Dolphins could unwrap one of the most potent offenses in the league if it all goes well for them and if it all goes well for the Patriots they're still going to need to you know play from ahead they're going to still need to make some plays on defense that they might not find in their usual house of horrors in Miami you know that's a problem 13 days and that really that's the essence of every freaking game and we spend all the time on what are they going to do and they run on this how are they going to score 24 or more points on a regular basis do they look like an offense that's going to average 24 or more points because I think that's what you're looking for from any offense your top 15 if you can get to 24 or more good ones Kansas City whoever they'll be 28 the Patriots generally I don't see how the Patriots are getting to 24 points at this juncture defensively they could be a 20 or less defense against teams that they can beat up on and they did that a ton last year to the gets and the Jaguars and to teams that were without all its potency like they got Tennessee at a good time no Derek Henry no AJ Brown but how does the math work on a week-to-week basis how do you cobble together those touchdown drives because last year they weren't very potent down the field which necessitated okay we're going to have an eight nine ten or eleven play drive here how do we do that you know some teams can oh okay three play drives for the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes that's no problem that's how you end up at 38 points the Patriots are not built to have four play drives so it's it's it's a little bleak but hey it's it's August 29th rich I know I'm not going to rain on everyone's parade I know that there's the duck parade before I let you go do you want to chime in on on Brady's sound bite of the weekend that I led the show with it because it really just jumped off the phone to me on my twitter feed him saying that he's a 45 year old guy with a lot of s going on and that's you know that was his explanation as to why he took a a mid-summer sabbatical you know him and I've been around him more than most Tom you want to take a swing at that one I just it's a it's a he seems fatigued he seems fatigued resigned punch on the clock in a fashion don't you feel that and I you have all the respect in the world for him and so do I and I've had a great relationship with him and he's been you know let's be candid he's been great for my personal business so has Bill Belichick the business you would I would not be on this show with you right now the wildly successful Rich Eisen show thank you Tom had I not covered this team for the length of time I did it had the benefit of covering Bill Belichick and Tom Brady but the weirdness of the decisions they're both making it's as if they're both lost without each other to a degree would you ever think that Bill Belichick in 2001-02-03-04 would enter a regular season and say and we'll just don't throw it together with these coaches see how it goes would you ever think Tom Brady would say maybe I'll just take 11 days off here at camp shoot back in later it's strange yeah it's just different parts in life man it's different in and and again asking you the question I just did you traffic in in the room or you know you would have to traffic in rumor as to what what went down or what have you but he he definitely let everyone in that you know that he's a human being too and it gave me pause for a second to think does that mean he's entering this season thinking it's going to be his last because there's a lot of ass going on that he needs to be around for that he's not because he's getting ready for the Cowboys and um it just it just really hit me really hard to see that it was one of the most relatable things he's ever said that's the way I said yeah I think it does it's it's uh it's staying for one more beer when you know you really should get out of there I know we've all been there I mean Tom Berman's calling the plays right that's why he's up there today that's a big part of it okay good they want to get some of his thoughts on how the offensive line that I like it's a look it's going to be very odd when they circle the wagon on the offense it's going to be very strange but it's going to be very strange because it's going to be circle the wagon on the offense it's going to be very strange just something oh my god it was funny my my guy Phil Perry uh said you know he had Chris Berman there today it was like stand up stand up I turned it to Johnny Carson suddenly built it yeah he loves him he does love Chris he loves Chris Tom thanks for the call really appreciate it uh at Tom E. Curran on Twitter I follow him you should as well thanks for the call Tom greatly appreciate it man have a great week see you soon see you soon that's Tom Curran checking on the Patriots let's take a break so we're on time for coach David Shaw we'll get a little college football talk in here I appreciate he takes the time before he takes on Colgate this coming Saturday gotta go is that dental hygiene back here on the Rich Eisen Show 844-204-rich number to dial love this guy love chatting with him and man is there a lot going on with Pac-12 football is it not getting set to kick off his 12th season just does it we you're dozen as the head coach of Stanford football on the Mercedes Benz fans phone line is none other than David Shaw how you doing coach I'm great rich great to talk to you great to talk to you as well getting ready for Colgate I see right this weekend we are we are looking for a great bounce back here from last year we got a lot of guys back training camp's been great very excited about our quarterback and we're look forward to have a lot of fun this year before we get to all that how does Colgate wind up on the on the schedule do you say I want to start I need to mind the finger lakes for those 4.0 student athletes that that's the way Colgate winds up on the Stanford schedule you know there are a lot of ways teams end up on your schedule a lot has to do with planning these things like sometimes seven to twelve years out yes and then someone bailing on you uh maybe three years out uh so there's a lot of a lot of conversations that happen um after long time uh arrangements who by the way who bailed on you who bailed on you coach yeah it's the combination of things okay combination of things of some people changing conferences and changing on someone else and then someone else is oh gosh now I have to change this and then that affects us so it's like you know the butterfly flaps his wings some places and nine teams have to change their schedule three years out well let's jump into this then David Shaw speaking of bailing and changing conferences look who's uh look who's in week two USC coming to Stanford um and I know you don't like to look over schedules I look over the dashboard I understand that but the circumstances of this game with USC I imagine is significant does that at all creep into your mindset with USC coming to town for you we have such a long-standing rivalry with USC um we don't need any extra motivation I try not to have any extra things around it like it's going to be emotional enough we have enough guys from northern and southern California uh that this is going to be a really good battle um our guys are not concerned with what's going to happen two years down the road anyway we're focused on right now um but it is interesting as a long-time conference um person both as a kid my dad coached in the PAC-8 and the PAC-10 I played in the PAC-10 and now coaching the PAC-12 and now it's going to be the PAC we'll see um we'll see you know it's it's going to be a good game but the the longer term implications we no one has any idea that's where I do want to ask you about that and I know you knew I would ask you about it so let me just jump into it before I get to your football season is the fact that the PAC-12 future is completely up in the air what did you think of when you heard USC and UCLA were going to the Big Ten coach like most people I didn't believe it um I was at my son's track meet and I started getting all these texts and I was like okay somebody's messing with me um and then come here find out that it's true um kind of sent me to a little bit of a which has happened a lot for a lot of us in college sports in the last couple years like where are we right now um and uh it it hurt a little bit in that part of what defines our conference our our natural rivalries in particular the four of us California schools you know when we became the PAC-12 the long-standing agreement was that we're going to play each other every year regardless of north and south so that desire for all four of us to always play each other has always been there and now that's somewhat in jeopardy so my hope is um if everything stays the way that it is we maintain the PAC-10 whether we invite somebody else or not my hope is that we continue to play USC and UCLA because our alumni are so intertwined um that we couldn't I couldn't imagine not playing both those teams pretty much every year yeah I know um did you at any point call your your school's athletic director and the president of the school to say like what's our plan here I mean did have you lifted the phone and had those conversations David show we've had those conversations but uh you know my my office is too small um to handle those things uh these are coming with conference commissioners talking to tv people talking to presidents and uh I'm not exactly sure no one is um what's next you know does the big 10 make another invite and gobble up a few more schools does everything stand pat to the does the PAC-10 now go bigger and try to add more none of us know and we could all get phone calls in the next 48 hours we could not know for another four months that's right or or years or even years you know or even years you know and I'll be honest coach and I'm not just saying this because you're on the phone here I immediately thought because you know what the speculation in my end of the business that you dip your toe in uh every draft season um about who could come next from the PAC-12 to the big 10 since I am here in Los Angeles I can't believe it's it's true sitting in big 10 country here who else would you want to take well the big 10 and just some people throwing out Washington and Oregon or what have you I said I'll take both bay area schools I'll I take your program and I take Cal's program because that's something you could go to the school presidents of the big 10 say how about bringing Stanford and Cal into the equation who would say no to something like that have you gotten those phone calls do you think do you know nobody's calling me um right nobody's calling me and I'm I've just got a training camp so I haven't answered my phone in a while anyway right but yeah it you can make a case for that to say um academically that's a great it could be very enticing you could say Washington Oregon regionally Seattle and and Portland for um you know viewership um but then again you could say ESPN was out of the running for the big 10 and APSPN makes a big push to keep the PAC-10 the way that it is right and make that lucrative for everybody so all these things are just floating around in the ether as I try to close my door in game plan um so that's the that's kind of where we are all right now okay David Shaw Stanford head football coach here on the Rich Eisen show let's talk about your quarterback um Tanner McKee what are you expecting out of him this year coach I really believe this is going to be a breakout year for him um started off on a high note you know once he did his name the starter upset win at USC upset against a highly ranked Oregon team played great then the receiver started getting banged up that he kind of got banged up and missed missed a game so everybody started healthy and fresh he's got some great weapons but he's a six six you know 225 pound young man that can throw the deep ball put the ball in tight spaces he's brilliant yeah he's a leader so he's one that all the NFL scouts have come through to make sure that they take a good look at him because he's one that could really jump on the scene this year yeah is there is there you know I mean my my uh my family just went to Disneyland and there's these signs that you have to be this tall to ride the ride is there such a thing in Stanford at the quarterback position you got to be six four and above because I mean my gosh do you love six four and above quarterbacks since you've been there I've heard that I have a type yeah I mean I looked it up I looked it up I mean KJ Costello six five Ryan Burns six five luck is obviously six four um uh Davis Mills he he's he you know he doesn't need to step on a stool to get something at the top of a of a shelf you know so you got him something to me there's something about being able to see you know through because we also have a lot of big offensive linemen here right we have a lot of big guys um love the play action game love the drop back game um and a guy to be able to see all those places now you can also make a case there are special unique circumstances like Drew Brees sees as well as any quarterback who's ever played the game and he's just right about six foot um so there there are of course outliers but for the most part having those big quarterbacks but the other thing for me too is you got to be able to move as well you know big quarterbacks that can move and Tanner can move he's a good athlete um and he can make all the throws yeah I and so I guess because we you know uh certainly in the NFL and every draft season we talk about how the college offense has now been taken over the pro offense and so on and so forth and you want guys who can you know run and as well as throw and and I'm just wondering you know if this is the way of the future you see somebody like Josh Allen crush it as he is doing right now but Burrow is more of a drop back guy pack pocket passer I'm wondering you're you're the one sitting at the you know at the cross section at the forefront of of getting these kids ready what you see at the in the offense from the quarterback position now David for me for me it has it hasn't really changed I mean all the way back to Bill Walsh right played for Bill at Stanford after his great career at the 49ers and he would always say the quarterback must account for four to five first downs with his legs right which is just the idea that the quarterbacks legs are just just just a gut shot to the defense so having an athletic quarterback that's mobile enough to scramble for first down get positive yards you know that transition that he made from Joe Montana to Steve Young that quarterback as a running weapon you just see it you just see it more often now but even a guy like Joe Burrow Joe's a hell of an athlete he's quick in the pocket he's quick to escape he can throw on the run extremely well so I think that is a big part of today's football they don't all have to run four four but they have to be able to move and get positive yards when they put their legs when they need to your 12th year coach uh at Stanford this is I mean where's the time gone um how is thing how I guess normally I would say how things changed but there's the NIL world now for you it does how does Stanford and the NIL world coexist these days yeah that's fascinating um so Stanford is still Stanford um we believe we want to come bring people here for the right reasons uh I love the NIL world our guys are protecting the NIL world and doing very well there combined with getting their Stanford degree which in the long run is going to be more lucrative for them than this the NIL money um but it's also the enticement part of NIL which is supposed to be illegal which we all know is happening all over the place um but so that's what we we are just battling and actually doing really well top 25 class last year I believe will be top 25 class again this year without those extras without those illegal enticements because of what Stanford means right there's there's the one visit that mom dad uncle gram grandma they all want their young person to come to Stanford and reap the benefits of a great education and all the context that you learn you earn here and you meet people here so that for us is enough to battle some cash in hand from other places so we can still win those battles because of how special Stanford is and still do NIL the right way while our guys are on campus yeah I because I've spoken to so many of your colleagues coach David Shaw um I think um in in the PAC 12 I think Kyle Winningham said he has there's just a couple of confirmed I think he was one of them where yeah kids will on a recruiting trail saying I've gotten this much you match it I'll come if not I can't come and I'm does anyone have the temerity to say that to a Stanford football head coach have you had that right up front what I'm going to give them is on the back end and it's going to be bigger than what they get on the front end the number of our guys that are that are in medical school business school starting their own companies taking advantage of their Stanford degrees doing startups like those guys are reaping the benefits of their time here so I'm not going to battle with somebody who's giving cash on the front end I'm going to battle what the Stanford University degree is going to do for you on the back end David Shaw here on the Rich Eisen show all right we've reached the portion of our conversation where you tell me what's going on with some of the Stanford football players in the National Football League McCaffrey walk me through this here uh it's now it's Baker Mayfield with him how do you think that man it's it this is what I love talking to you about uh one of the many reasons I love talking to you David Shaw because I was sitting on the set with you when Baker Mayfield got drafted so you know if I told you Mayfield in Cleveland I'm like hey guess what he and McCaffrey have been seeing backfield in Carolina in 2022 you'd have been like what but such and such is the case how do you think that's going to work and how is McCaffrey feeling after two seasons in a row and having all the conversations about his fragility uh now front and center coach what do you have to do so to answer the first question first one thing I know about Baker Mayfield he's at his best when the questions are the biggest right now so big questions he he plays with a chip on his shoulder and he he plays well in those environments especially if you give him a running game right what he did in Cleveland a couple years ago with a really good running game and a couple of good tight ends his outlets and his legs and playing great defense he can he can play well enough to get you to the playoffs second question second um to McKierson McCaffrey that I know with questions out there you better look out right this is the healthiest he's been the best he's felt in two years he has a monster chip on his shoulder to prove that he deserves where he is as far as the contract and the respect and all the yards and and nfo records that he's already broken um he's my early uh voice vote for comeback player of the year um he is fired up he is ready and I can't wait to watch him play this and rules uh offense and system that this can all it it looks good I mean Mayfield has been making some great throws in the preseason it does look good you know but it's preseason you know they've bounced around a couple different things before you know they've had quarterbacks get injured play up and down the receivers are healthy they've got speed outside uh you get a Christian a healthy Christian McCaffrey and a mobile quarterback like Baker now you've got a lot of those things just like we talked about Baker's going to get to two to three positive running yard running games running plays per game right and now you give Chris McCaffrey the option routes handed to him a bunch of times now you've got the makings of an exciting offense and then in terms of narratives that I hear all the time in the nfl uh when the subject of matter the Houston Texans comes up I hear your voice in my head all the time when I hear the thing maybe Jimmy G can go to Houston because they're not really sold on Davis Mills and I hear your voice in my head saying what who said they're not sold on Davis Mills you know and I I think they are sold on him and I'll give you the floor on what you know on this subject matter matter for him in Houston well he's just another one of those six four plus Stanford quarterbacks he's really smart really accurate and a better athlete than you think and can make all the throws he's got a big time arm nothing faces him he's got a coordinator who understands him and understands what he does well and is putting those things around him will they have enough up front does he have enough weapons will they play well enough on defense but it's not all on his shoulders those are the big questions I don't think Davis Mills is the question you watch how he played the last month of the season and you can make a case that he was the best rookie quarterback uh in the nfl at the end of last year I know and in terms of uh um turkey fresh in the oven to one that's been in the oven um or two hours too long how done is Andrew Luck coach he's been done but everybody still asks um because he is so special because he's so talented um but he has moved on he's starting grad school uh this fall he just had baby number two um his life is great he's very content um on on his college on his nfl career not fired up about how it ended but it did end um he did a lot of great things and brought a lot of joy to the people of Indianapolis and now for him it's time for chapter two so he's he's on campus he's he's another he's back in Stanford's campus for grad school is what you're saying or is he I don't know if I'm supposed to publicize that or not okay yes he's starting grad school uh this fall uh he and his wife Nicole are coming back out this way and um he's just going to be around he loves the Stanford environment um and and he and his family are going to spend some time here and uh we can't wait to be around so you could be strolling on campus and there he is with his book bag is that really what can happen this this absolutely absolutely and that's and that's one of the things that's so great about this campus is in Indianapolis still after not playing these last few years he goes out to the restaurant he still gets mobbed right but you're going to walk on campus here and you know Mark Zuckerberg might be walking across campus Condoleezza Rice is walking across campus right there's people walking across campus that are famous they're world famous so he's just another one of that group well Dr Rice you'll have her Bronco's book bag now right she's part of that group she's part of the the uh the ownership group there yes she is coach thanks for the time have a uh have a great season let's connect during it and uh I always love hearing from you whenever you text me just out of the blue I love it thanks for doing that thanks for the call thanks Rich you be well you be well that's the coach of Stanford football one of my favorites David Shaw there are a few people you like more than David I tell you I do love him you do he cracks me up he's so he's so astute he's so good yeah at everything and I watch him work too I watch him work I see his beautiful family when they face what you like what I said when they come by like he brought his family to uh to the to the draft in Vegas good catch there rich and I say it all the time I'm an owner of an NFL team needing a coach I write his name on a check and hand it to him and say you fill in the amount I don't think he's leaving I don't think so either I don't think so either he's in year 12 they'd be insane to let him go right I mean they'd be insane to let him go yeah and now and as you know um you know if you if you rule the Finger Lakes this weekend they'll flock they will flock man they will come out of those caverns right above Cayuga's waters right and they'll go right to Stanford they got the if they have the great how about that answer NIL they know they know what I can offer them is on the back end and it's much better and more lucrative than what they could get on the front end pretty good answer and by the way that sounds like you know a flex but it's the truth ask anybody with a kid that's trying to get in you know with a the grade point average that that could even be in the realm of getting and you want to go to Stanford is there a four in the front this better be I just can't get over the fact that Andrew Luck just up and retired he said he didn't like the way it ended like that all the time 4 600 yards 39 touchdowns well it's not just that too is the date do you look up the date of oh I know it was late over the weekend it was just like this it was three years ago over the weekend wasn't it yeah it was late we just finished our fantasy draft but some dude drafted him in like the fifth round and then he quit it was late it was late to the point where I think he he gave it a try and just like you know I'm I'm banged up I just don't want to do it yeah 29 he retired and I remember Schefter's tweet of it about it came up during the first half of the preseason game that I think was on CBS nationally yeah so they're able to show him on the sideline he says I he's already retired or the announcements come out to the point where that what a 21st century story enough people saw it on their phones that they booed him going off the field to the locker room at halftime yeah and he could tell it visibly just destroyed him and understandable because I think it came out like he was aware standing on the sidelines he didn't want that it's out like he wanted to control his narrative I I know all about that yeah I just remember that was very sad to see that the look on his face to have those people booing him yeah like come on man loved Andrew luck dude so 32 years old you need a quarterback of course you better call Andrew but remember he when he popped up at the college football uh was at the championship uh over the last fall he looked very thin he was like oh well he's not playing I know he's not playing he's 32 with a lot of s going on yeah grad school graduate school no chance I would ever go back to school I did it was the greatest thing I ever did no 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much faster than I did they would have taken your ticket away but we got that the killers is susie's favorite band I've never seen them live she hadn't either and it was incredible it was incredible what an incredible band from the great city of las vegas nevada brandon flowers the lead singer just had had the entire stadium in the palm of his hand and um he's very well aware of what's going on in the audience I've never seen this about three songs in he kicked somebody out oh for their behavior he's like yeah get him out he stopped the song wow stop the song pointed somebody out get him out damn yeah I know susie and I look at each other like wow that's like brockman minding a youtube chat you know just awesome people you know wow watch your mouth you've never seen that right before no that's awesome oh yeah I've seen I mean I haven't been to concerts but I've definitely seen lead singers see some stuff going on and be like yo exactly you've got a dip so um he noticed also about halfway through the concert a sign somebody held up and they showed a shot of it because you know in with these top-notch tours everything everything's on camera they they have a whole right you know uh production that you can see on the screen a bunch of screens behind him a guy held up a sign that said fighting cancer ready to play drums on reasons which is the short-term way of saying uh the referring to the the hit song for reasons unknown that the killers put out and so brandon flowers took the guy up out of the stands and put him on a drum set yeah at which point I just grabbed my phone and put the sound up please he owned it wearing a fight cancer shirt wow place went nuts and he put his hand over his mouth and um couldn't believe he had this opportunity you know and I'll be honest with you uh you know I was also it also struck me anybody who works for NFL Network guy looks like Chris Westling a little bit doesn't he who passed away due to cancer and also had sort of that joie de vivre about living his best life which is what this guy did I don't know what his situation is other than he's fighting cancer and he got up and um took a selfie getting goosebumps just even watching this again god that's so cool and the place went wild wild damn that's I've never Susie and I looked at each other and we were like oh my goodness you know and um you know kudos to Ronnie Vannucci Jr who's the the drummer of the killers he got right up and he grabbed a guitar and he played for them and that that's who he was taking the selfie with it was great that's really I mean and those are the moments that you live for one of the greatest moments I've ever seen at any concert I've ever been to to say yeah come on up and that's a risk and by the way I you know Susie and I had the set list in front of us you know these these websites um that show you what the set list has been on the tour that wasn't on their set list oh wow they hadn't played it in we looked up you know the last 10 set list it wasn't on there and by the way the um the encore Lindsey Buckingham came out and played um um don't that's not that don't stop believing um played some Fleetwood Mac yes don't stop thinking about tomorrow no it's not what it was I just flew out of my head uh Mr. Brightside they did that was the last one that song I think this dude's name is Joel Stetler he responded to your tweet last night oh fantastic he wrote thanks for sharing this rich still on another planet that's awesome shout out keep fighting way to go Joel that was one of the greatest moments I've ever seen way to do it man we'll be back on the radio Tuesday I did not know that he had responded yeah we gotta I gotta get that guy on the phone maybe we'll have him on the show tomorrow if he's up for doing that I mean to have that sense of it and he just I mean to say he crushed it I mean looks like he's a third grade teacher out here in California is he really yeah that's what his bio says I mean because it's it was kind of a risk in a way go your own way that's the song I mean my god but um the Fleetwood Mac song it's kind of a risk like what if the guy got came up and he's just like you know not not all that proficient on drums but the minute you got there you could see like I didn't I didn't get my phone on fast enough he got behind the drum set and he put his hand over his mouth to start like like he can't believe that his sign actually got him up there and I just thought to myself you miss a hundred percent of the shots you don't take and then I thought to myself you also do not hit 100 of the shots you attempt if you don't prepare and you don't live in the moment that's what I thought to myself gotta live in the moment so many times I am on my phone I am trying to pay attention to too much stuff I am you know focused on the traffic and stupid stuff but to live in the moment like he crushed it he crushed it and I just it really just hit me and I just it hit Susie too and it really was a beautiful moment and I know that there are other bands who have taken folks out of the crowd and they've done it before but I've never seen anything like that before and I thought it was incredible that Brandon Flowers did that and that the rest of the band it wasn't on their set list I'm sure they could play that song in their sleep but oh I'm so glad that he responded I did not know that yeah I can't wait to tell Susie he's a teacher in Fresno Fresno all right so he came all the way down unbelievable well to play us out good monday good monday yes it is good monday and it was truly remarkable uh tomorrow's show it is uh Bruce Arians will be on the program Desmond Howard did you see his uh his prediction for the college football playoff no what happened um it was take a look it was Michigan Texas A&M Baylor and I forget who the fourth team was but it definitely was not it's not Alabama it's not Clemson it's not anybody else yes Texas A&M went winning it all whoa so Dez is coming on and I can't wait to ask him if he's on the stuff that Aaron Rodgers was on I don't know perhaps and then you we will see you on Tuesday's show right here on youtube.com slash rich isin show see you then for the real story behind some of wrestling's biggest moments it's something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard and Conrad Thompson too all-time Hogan opponents Macho Man's got to be in the conversation where's Andre for you I've always said Andre was number one well because even going back before you know Hulk Oatman was a babyface Hulk and Andre were able to go in and headline at the New Orleans Superdome at Shea Stadium in Japan wherever they went that was an attraction something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard listen wherever you get your podcasts