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Pro Football Hall of Famer/NFL on CBS Analyst Bill Cowher and Rich discuss how head coaches John Harbaugh and Dan Quinn will handle the injuries to Jaxson Dart and Jayden Daniels, why the Steelers’ offense has looked inconsistent through two games so far, how the Chargers and Raiders have surprised him but the Chiefs’ 2-0 start has not, if Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills are the team to beat in the AFC, and weighs in on the Vikings’ and Saints’ starts to the season.  Rich and the guys react to the possibility of the Bears starting 3rd-string QB Case Keenum in Week 3, and discusses a caller’s suggestion that the Giants should trade for former Jets 1st-round pick Zach Wilson, and reacts to Browns HC Todd Monken’s advice for the embattled Deshaun Watson ahead of Cleveland’s home opener.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What a disaster. What a disaster of a Monday night for the Giants. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Earlier on the show. Pro Football Hall of Famer Kurt Warner.

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It's Bill Cower, everybody, from Nebuchadnezzar. Oh, today, good to see you. How are you, coach? Good to see you, Rich. You're doing great.

How are you doing? Is that a replica bust behind your left shoulder? Is that what you're doing? It is. It is.

Look at that. Wow.

So, you get you get one of those in addition, or you order one? Is it sort of like, you know, photographs for class photos and stuff like that? You get like a. A piece of water. Oh, you get one.

It's like that. And you also get one of these trophies, too, when you win a Super Bowl. Oh, I could see the. Oh, look at that. Oh, my goodness.

Now, now, you get that, or did the Rudy family give it to you? Did you have to get out of pocket for your own? Like, what do we do here, Bill? What do we got? I actually can't remember the logistics of it.

I know I asked for one. I'm not sure how that was compensated. I think that Mr. Rooney Probably gave me one.

Okay. I would think. And that's a photograph behind your right shoulder. It's you. How old is that picture over your right shoulder?

That's my first year with Mr. Rooney. Wow.

And then behind that, you're going to see my man Marty Schottenheimer right there. Me and him when he was in Kansas City right there. That's so cool. Great office stuff. There you go.

There you go. All right. Let's just jump into the topics, Dujour. What do you think is going through John Harbaugh's mind now that it appears what's become official is happening that he's that Jackson Dart's done for the season all of a sudden? What does he do?

Well, you know, listen, I think. John, he'll navigate this extremely well. He's been in this league long enough to understand that that's kind of part of every season's journey: all the obstacles and adversities that get thrown at you.

So he's got Jameis Winston. He'll come in there and do the things that Jameis Winston does. And so I think you saw what Drew Locke did for Seattle. You saw what Carson Wentz did for Minnesota. You know, and Marcus Mariota has to step in for Jaden Daniels down in Washington.

So I think having a veteran backup, I know my years in Pittsburgh, those 15 years, I always had a veteran backup. I had Bobby Brister for Neil O'Donnell. For Cordell Stewart, I had Mike Tomczak. Then Tommy Maddox was there for Ben Rothensberger.

So I think it's really important as you develop your football team and put it together that you have those kind of alternate plans in place just for situations like this. And that's why having a good running game and having a good defense are two factors that really help that quarterback come in and take some pressure off of him.

Well, and that's why Jack. You know, Jameis Winston is there behind Jackson Dart, a veteran presence, but that's also, as you just pointed out, why I was talking about in the first hour of the show, Bill, that nobody's going to trade their veteran quarterback depth to the Giants just because the Giants need this, certainly on week three, right? I mean, like, if you had to choose a quarterback on somebody else's roster that's a backup that could play 15 weeks and make the playoffs, you'd have to maybe choose Mac Jones of San Francisco. Why in the world would the Niners even entertain that idea when Mac Jones is the main reason why they could have won the one seed last year while Purdy was out? You know, like that happened.

Yeah, and I just think having experience is very, very important. One of the reasons why the Pittsburgh Stars kept Mason Rudolph, because you had two young guys behind them, and Drew Aller and Will Howard, but these guys don't really have any experience. At least Mason Howard has experience behind Aaron Rodgers.

So I think, again, I think every team's makeup is very different. I think every offense is very different. And I go back to the same thing. I think that puts more of the importance, I think, every year of making sure that you develop a running game and that you have a defense that can make up for maybe not having that guy in there that can win you games in the fourth quarter. They're going to have to probably at some point anyway, but at least it minimizes what you're asking them to do from a contribution standpoint.

And obviously, you know, Dan Quinn is dealing with the loss of Jaden Daniels as well. Listen, I was said the other day to Bill, that The decision that Dan Quinn had to make at the end of that half: two seconds to go, you could kick a field goal and you get the ball on the other side at halftime and you can, you know, take the lead there, or you can be aggressive. And, you know, there's risk-reward in all of them. And if you told him that you're going to lose your quarterback potentially for a very long time, of course, he's going to kick the field goal. But do coaches kick themselves?

At night. Behind the wheel of a car. What do you think? No, I think, you know, I mean, that's the same approach you take in the preseason, right? Do I play a guy in a preseason with the risk of injury, or do I play the guys in the preseason hoping that you're going to be very good for week one and all of a sudden get that timing that you need to have that you really can't simulate in practice?

I don't care if you have these practices with other teams. You don't simulate game day decision making, game day speed, and even if it's very bland. But I think so. Those are the things that you have to be able to do. I think, you know, I think certainly there's positions that you probably look at.

You don't want to jeopardize that part of it. But I think in terms of your approach to a game, I think the one thing about football is that you have to do what's in the best interest of the team and not be too conscientious about any one individual or thinking about the negative to something because it's going to happen. It's kind of part of the game. I think you have to rule with it. You've got to be able to adapt and adjust and be able to move on.

And so the mantra of next man up is not, it's really how you have to think about it with your football team. And that's why you talk about it with your team. That's why it's the only thing that's. Ultimate team sport. That's why you have 53 guys.

That's why you have 47 guys on game day. Because you have to really rely on everybody at some point in that season.

Now, when you lose them for a year, that's tough because then you have to maybe adjust to exactly all you're thinking. But you lose them for periods of time, guys that go in IR, it really does develop your depth. When they do come back, now you have actually better depth than you had before because you have experience.

So, no. No second guessing, you think, Dan Quinn? He's not kicking himself over, like, man. Not at all, huh? No, no, I wouldn't be.

I mean, you don't sit there and think about the worst case scenario because you run one more play and you try to go for a touchdown. If you kick the field goal, you don't think about the fact if I'm going for it, I'm going to lose my quarterback. I mean, if you knew beforehand, yeah, that'd be great, but you don't know those things are going to happen. And so, no, I mean, I think hindsight like that, you can't do that. I think, again, you make the decisions in the moment that you think in the best interest of the team and taking all the things into consideration.

But I think injury is not going to be one of them. Super Bowl champion and pro football hall of famer from CBS, the NFL, today is Bill Cower here on the program. Bill, you open your mouth about the Steelers. People listen. Not that they don't listen when you open your mouth on CBS, but you saying that, let me get this quote exactly.

The offense about the Steelers during the Steelers Patriots game that was on CBS this week, the offense does not have any identity right now. End quote. And that got picked up. You want to put any more meat on the bones right here about what you're seeing from my show? Yeah, I think when you look at it, as I sat back and looked at the watch the game, I think it's very evident that right now they've got to solidify the offensive line.

I think right now they've moved a lot of people around into a new system. I think the best thing they can do right now, because you know, this hit that he takes right here is because of miscommunication on the offensive line. Zach Frazier has admitted that. You have a new system in place. I think they've got to put these five guys in place.

They moved them around the preseason and let them settle in. Communication on the offensive line takes time. Maybe no other position where the continuity and having a feel for the guy you're lined up next to is more important than any other position than offensive line.

So I think they have to settle in for that. The other part of that is converting third downs. This football team is like next to fourth in the league in conversion of third downs, and they're not like they're third and long.

So it's hard to get into any kind of rhythm if you can't convert a third down. Therefore, it's hard to have any kind of identity.

So I make that statement without having the opportunity to go into the depth of it. As I look back, as you sit there and watch these guys in the first two weeks, you know, he has some drop passes by DK, which again, hopefully that will get cleaned up. Settle in with the offensive line, try to get the running game going consistently, and let Aaron have a platform where he can operate. And whether it be a platform of opening this offense up, maybe it's that. But, you know, I always felt Rich the first month.

It's fact finding month. You're sitting here and you're trying to find out exactly what your football team indicators of areas of strengths or areas of concern. And I always looked at the first month as a chance to see who these guys are, what do you have to work with. And I think the biggest thing that you come away with that is you look at two areas of situational football, red zone, third down. Are we able to finish drives?

Are we able to continue or get a drive going with by converting third downs? And if it's third down and longs, we're going to do a better job first and second down. That's not been the case with Pittsburgh Steelers. Their average third down is right in the middle of the pack, actually, in the upper half of the pack, and what the yards to go is. It's just converting those third downs to keep a drive going, to getting some kind of continuity.

So I don't think they're far off, to be quite honest with you. It's a big challenge this week against Cincinnati. It's a long year, two new systems on both sides of the ball.

So, you know, I just know from my time in the month of September, if I can come out of their 500, I didn't feel that bad about it because I felt I had a better feel for my team. I start to adapt and adjust or work through what we want to have to work through and see what your options are. What are my options from the standpoint of personnel? You may be hindered if you have a quarterback loss. What are my options in terms of I may have to change my scheme?

Are you flexible enough to be able to change your scheme?

So I think there's a very fine line between being committed to something or being stubborn about something. I think that's what the first month is. You have to be able to find. A way to understand who your team is, what is their identity, what are your strengths, what are your areas of concern, and then make the appropriate decision. And um just to play off of what you just said, uh, Bill, I mean The Bengals have shown that they are a team That can win on defense, which is something I don't think we've been saying very much lately.

And sexy Dexie, right in the middle of that defense, we had Zach Taylor on yesterday's program, and he was talking at length about how he has changed so much there just by merely showing up. And if they're having trouble protecting Rodgers in Pittsburgh, certainly up the middle. Look out. Like, this is a big game for both teams. Early on, you know what it's like winning games in this division.

You've got to hold serve at home, and you've got to win as many as you possibly can. What a big game this is coming up this weekend. Yeah, it's a very big game, and I think the one thing I look at Cincinnati is the degree of toughness that they brought in. I think Zach did a great job with Jonathan now, and you talked about Dexter Lawrence bringing in Cook from Kansas City from the back end.

So, that's a very good, that's one of the best defenses I've seen, and they played very well in these first two games. And certainly, know what they can do on the offensive side of the ball with, you know, again, as long as Joe Burrow can stay healthy. And, you know, Chase Brown's a very good running back, and obviously, with T and Jamar, with those two guys outside.

So, it's a big challenge. It's a divisional game. It's in Pittsburgh. And so I'm kind of looking forward to seeing how this one plays out. And, you know, they came off a big win against Houston.

And, you know, the Houston Texans now, they're 0-2. You know, they moved the ball up and down. He just could not score in the red zone. Like I said before, sometimes the situational football you're not good at it can kind of mask.

Some of the real good things that you may be doing on both sides of the ball.

So this will be a big game in Pittsburgh, and it'll be interesting to see how it plays and how it plays out. A couple more questions for you, Bill Cower. The AFC team that you're surprised by through the first two weeks of the season. Uh I don't know if In a negative way, I'm surprised by the Chargers, to be quite honest with you. I thought they would be a lot better with Mike McDaniel coming in there with their offense.

And right now, Justin Herbert doesn't seem to be able to have any kind of feel for what they want to do offensively. And it's two bad losses. You talk about where you are. And you know, it's who you've played, right? Houston, they played, you know, Arizona, they played Cincinnati and Baltimore.

The Chargers are 0-2, but they played Arizona and they played Las Vegas.

So I think the team I'm most surprised, I don't think I'm surprised, but I've been very impressed with, have been the Las Vegas Raiders. I think they've done a very good job of showing up at offensive line. I think Kirk Cousins has done a good job. Ashton Genty looks like he's running very well. And defensively on that side of the ball, I think they've been able to get after people.

And I think, you know, you got Quay Walker and Nicobi Dean comes in.

So they really did a really good job, I think, of upgrading that football team. And then you still got Fernando Mendoza, who's sitting there at the back end of this team.

So they've had two very good wins, or one very good win. And, you know, I think they're a team that it'll be interesting to see how they do this week. Chiefs are for real, right? Yes? Oh, yeah, Chief.

I don't think they're a surprise. I think, you know, what Andy's done and going out there and getting the running back that he got, he's special. And, you know, I think you look at Patrick Mahomes and his determination and the way he leads that football team. He's just a, you know, he brings something special onto that football field, a grid of determination that really identifies what that football team is really all about. And so, you know, getting Kenneth Walker certainly was a great move in the offseason, maybe take some of that pressure off of Patrick early in the season.

But, you know, Patrick looks like he's really getting healthy. And again, Spagnola, I think one of the best defensive coordinators in National Football League, just doing his magic again. But this team is definitely for real. Yeah, I mean, the question with Kenneth Walker amongst so many people in the media over the last few months was sounds great. And The question is: is Andy Reid really going to use him?

Well, how about right the first two games, first eight, you know, nine quarters? Check the box, man. I mean, totally. And you know what? The other thing, Rich, is like him out of the backfield.

I think the one thing that you don't take into consideration is that he's had a number of catches, and his run yards after catch, his yak that he can bring to the field. And again, anytime you put him on the field, he has a chance for a big play.

So getting the ball in his hands, not just by the run, whether it's a screen pass, whether it's off-the-play action, and slipping them out into the flat. You saw what he did the other day in overtime, setting up that big game-winning field goal.

So this guy is a threat in the passing game as well. And I think it's, again, Travis Kelsey looks like he's gotten five years younger with his preparation. He's coming to this right now.

So, again, it's a good football team. They've got two good wins, and they're for real. Lastly, I'd be remiss. Clearly, since we didn't see them since Thursday, but Josh Allen and the Bills and Joe Brady, do you think they are the class of the AFC? They're the team to beat entering week three and beyond in this conference, Bill.

Well, they're going to be there when it's all said and done. And certainly, we've seen the playoffs or something they have to get over. But I think when you look at DJ Moore, getting him in the offseason is the best receiver Josh has had since you go back to the days a few years ago when he had the very dynamic outside guys.

So it was Steph Diggs and I think it was White or whoever the other receiver was. But this is a very good football team. James Cook is a really good runner, a good offensive line. I think their defense is much improved. Remember, they didn't have Ed Oliver all of last year.

He makes such a difference in the middle of that line.

So this is a very, very good team. No question about it. New England kind of got back on track. I think the questionnaire is: can Drake May start to feel comfortable if they get A.J. Brown with that offense?

But the New England Patriots aren't going anywhere either.

So they're going to be there. But clearly, Buffalo, I think, is particularly AFC East. But the North and you said Cincinnati, Baltimore had a tough loss. But I think I like what I've seen with Jesse Minter. team to be to be honest with you.

you know, and and I I still am not going to count out the Houston Texans. I think I I I you know, I know they've lost two games and last year they lost three games, but they finished the season strong. And I guess if you look at two teams, Rich, to me, that I'll just leave you to one last thought. You finish a season strong. I used to always talk about, even though you may be out of the playoffs, there were two teams last year.

The Minnesota Vikings and the New Orleans Saints. The Minnesota Vikings won their last five games. New Orleans Saints last year went 4-1 down the stretch. These are two teams right now, when you look in the NFC, they're probably playing some of the best football right now at the start of the season. I think there's a lot to be said for finishing up strong.

So at the end of the season, you talk about, well, you tank, you do this, or do that. No, I think there's a lot to be said for finishing the season strong, winning football games. If you want to build something at the end of the season, build culture. Build an expectation of winning. I think both those teams have done that.

They took it from one season to the other. New Orleans Saints are for real. The Minnesota Vikings are for real. And I think a lot that has to do with how they finished up last year. Let me know, Bill, if at any point over the next couple of weeks you lean over on the set of the NFL today and you see a New Jersey number light up Russell Wilson's phone.

Bill. We've talked about it. They gave us all jerseys, Richmond, in Minnesota. We did our show out there, and they all gave us jerseys. I gave his number, and we sat there, and after at halftime, we got done.

I go, Russ, I think there was your jersey. Does it fit? Does it fit? I said so. You know, I think Russ is very excited about being there with us, with Kyle Wong, and Nate and JB.

We got a good team, but I think he's He's had a nice run in the National Football League, and he's going to do a really good run in his next career right here on the CBS platform.

Well, everybody thought you were just going to go back to coaching anyway. You've been there 20 years now, right? 21. 20 years.

Now, my 20th year team this year. 20 years.

By the way, I got my number, and it gave me 20. And I said, wow, okay, that's Hall of Fame. And Jen Sabotelle, our director, she says, no, you've been in the CBS for 20 years. I go, oh, I thought it was my Hall of Fame 20s. Yeah, you're.

Classic 2020. That's for sure. By the way, say hi to Jen. She's one of the best in the business, man. I know.

You take care of yourself, Bill. Thanks for the time. Thanks for checking the time. I really love chatting with you. Thanks again.

That's Bill Cower, everybody. Check him out on the NFL today on EBS.

So you thought Russ is going to be everybody thought Bill was Done. That's right. With media a year in. Everyone's thinking about Tomlin right now, too. Right?

Everybody's putting Tomlin on the sideline in Tampa right now. Four. Right now, people are doing that. Oh, you're making that seem like you haven't heard that one. No, but I'm just thinking it plays out.

I think a lot of Bucks fans would sign for that for week three. Stop it. Never say never, but seeing how happy Coach was. But yeah, he's undefeated. I don't think he's going back.

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Okay, Ben Johnson speaking about who's his starting quarterback on Monday night football, the finale of week three on the ESPN Family of Networks. Go ahead and just talk about the quarterback situation.

So, I mean, we're fortunate here. We've got three guys that can play ball in this league that have won games in this league. Ryan's constructed the room in a way that we feel really good about whoever ends up playing for us. And that showed in the preseason, it shows up in practice every single day. And so, we're at a point right now, not sure who the starter is going to be on Sunday.

We'll let this thing play out and we'll go from there. There you go. All right. One's concussed in the protocol. One is Probably can't run.

Probably can't run. The other one. Yeah, and the other one is Case Keenum, who can back up a trailer. Last I saw him on TV, right? I love that, yeah.

And um You know, the thing that you're seeing, the stat that you're seeing. Is because Jared Goff answers every bell and Caleb Williams has answered every bell until now. This is going to be the first time Ben Johnson as a head coach or an offensive coordinator is going to send a non first overall drafted quarterback out on the field for him. Hmm. Oh man.

That just sets everyone up for, oh, Ben just, Ben needs the most talented guy to. To win it all. By the way, And his style and what he does doesn't really matter. He's just rolling the football out. Is that what you always say about?

a coach in Chicago that Has one of the best. Yeah, it, yeah. That's right. That's what they said about Phil, right? Sure.

And all those rings. Oh, my. He needs only the best. Without the best, he's nothing. That's already set up.

There's a regression candidate, number one, for week number three. It's Ben Johnson. Regression rack. Cannot wait for this game, too, because the Eagles are just ready to roll over them because last Friday's Thanksgiving game. or last year's Friday Thanksgiving game.

was such a punking. By the Bears in Philadelphia. They would love to return the favor and love to get things going on their offensive side of the ball where. You just know, Philly fans, it doesn't matter if it's Case Keenum or Tyson Bagent or Caleb Williams with half a leg of a hamstring on him. You know?

It's not going to be easy. You're not going to be in a rocking chair. You never are. Ever. Math.

Just do it. And everybody expects, oh, you should do this, that. I shouldn't say that.

Some fans do because the pushback I received from this past week's direct-to-camera. Um Soliloquy, where I was Jalen Hurts is what anger. Translator? Yes.

Okay. What were they really thinking? You know, where I'm like, nobody's happy with the Eagles. Their fans are upset that they won. And that's all people were hanging their hats on.

It was like, oh my goodness, I actually am happy.

Okay. I'm sure you are. You should be'cause your your team's two and oh. But if you know they struggle to put points up in Chicago. Against the Bears.

to try and win this game when it's Case Keenum. It's going to be great. Oh, a a week three finale. And if I had a peg, I bet you it's going to be Case Keenum. Tough to get out of the protocol.

And I understand everybody's making fun of Caleb Williams because he acted like his season was over and he might be back by October. Who cares? Who cares? I would bet it's Case Keenum. And let's see.

Ben Johnson beats the Eagles with Case Keenum. He's back as coach of the year again.

Well, if that happens. And the Lions lose to the Jets. Get ready, Detroit fans. What do you mean? I mean, you're already hearing it.

It's all Ben Johnson the whole time. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Narratives. You're already front-loading narratives.

I am front-loading a Bunde. Chris in Rancho Cucamonga, California wants to chime in. I'm going to bite on this one. What's up? Chris.

How are you doing, Rich? Can you hear me out there? Can hear you. What do you have to say? Please say what you told our call screener.

Please. Yes, sir. There's a guy I believe that the Giants should go after that has not really gotten a shot in the NFL, really. Who's had? I really wanted the Niners to get this guy, but I would go after Zach Wilson.

Chris, whoa! Listen, I know where Rancho Cucamonga is. It's not under a rock. Did you really say Zach Wilson did not get a chance in the National Football League? Is that what you're saying, Chris?

I mean, with the Jets. I mean, come on. He can redo his career all over the place. Brees Hall and Garrett Wilson, they're nobody, they're nothing. They're nothing.

Right? And they didn't have a defense with Quentin Williams, and they didn't have a defense with Sauce and all that business. Come on now, Chris. Let's just admit that the judges are kind of a dying zone for quarterbacks. Here's what I would do.

Chris, I don't know if we can afford this in the Rich Eisen productions budget. But if this happens, where is Zach Wilson right now, Chris? He's on the Saints. He's on the Saints. I thought about him.

Okay. Is he backing up the.

So. Is he backing up? If Tyler Shuck's a poor man Josh Allen, then what's Zach Wilson? What's Zach Wilson? A broke-ass Aaron Rodgers?

Oh. You can get Zach Wilson for a seventh round pick. It's Chuck Ratler and will listen. Chris, I will say this. Um Zach Wilson's talented.

Guy's got some talent. Played a lot of games. He's played a lot of games. I understand. But if if the Giants make this maneuver.

Could we afford To outfit every giant fan in the New York metropolitan area's home. with a GoPro. I would need to record the collective reaction to Giants fans that they go ahead and acquire Zach Wilson and bring him back to that stadium where he would be seeing ghosts. I just got a feeling Zach Wilson can get the job done. Chris and Rancho Kucamonga.

I mean, Gino played for the Giants and now he's back on the Jets. I think everybody listening in our ESP radio affiliate in New York City just fell off whatever chairs they're doing. to sit in right now. That would be a tough one to sell to the Giants fan base. What are you smoking, bro?

Give me some. But listen, you can't make decisions based on what the fan base is going to think. Perfect example. Cleveland Browns. Look at you, Rich Eisen.

Cleveland Browns. That was smooth. Let me tell you something. What's that? Todd Munkin, man.

He's great. God, I love every word he says. Because he will tell you what he's thinking. Miles. And he will sit there and tell you not only what he's thinking.

but he will stick to his beliefs. And everybody thought his beliefs about Deshaun Watson had to have been based on. ownership or management. Thumb could have been on the scale. It doesn't matter anymore now.

Doesn't matter. It doesn't matter that Deshaun Watson had fewer than, what, three air yards per attempt and the win over the Bucs doesn't matter because he didn't turn it over. He didn't turn it over. And he made the plays at the end in a way that the Bucs could not because the defense looked pretty damn good for the Browns. All right.

And now, here comes the show. Everybody thought, not a chance on this planet. Deshaun Watson would be making this first home start of the season for the Cleveland Browns. Because of the last time he played in that stadium in the preseason and what happened and how he got the job and how they looked against Jacksonville. And he was going to get one last shot.

And the Browns were definitely not going to start him because they couldn't possibly put him on the field in front of a fan base. That um Either A, didn't want it, or B, he had already alienated for 15 times, even though they're the ones who kind of alienated him.

Some of them. By cheering his injury a couple years ago. All right, I've given you the backstory to the sound bite. From Wednesday of Deshaun Watson talking about. The fan reaction and playing in Cleveland this week.

Yeah, I mean, the biggest thing, like, I don't never try to go at war with the fans.

So, I think the biggest thing is just, you know, ready for support, ready to feel their energy, ready to get this big dub for the city of Cleveland and, you know, continue this great feeling that we have this week.

So, that's my motto: just keep pushing forward, finding ways to win on Sunday to take advantage of the opposing team and get a W.

Okay, here we go. They're gonna win. Against Carolina. Yeah. That's going to be a game, man.

Him versus Bryce Young, who's got Coker. and Tetharoa MacMillan, the fifth and ninth ranked currently, I get it. Receivers for most receiving yards the first two weeks of the season. Denzel Boston has proven to be a threat. They got to get the run game going.

They do. They do? This is going to be a fun one. Got to see it. Got to see it.

When Todd Muncin talks, I don't know what he's about to say, but I don't care. I just want Todd Muncin's sound bites. He is asked the advice he's given Watson. Before stepping on this field in front of the dog pound, this is his Cleveland. Head coaching, regular season debut as well.

All right, hit it. What have you done all the work for, man? What have you done it for? It's the greatest. What if you worked twenty-two months to come back?

to play. And give yourself a chance to play at a high level. I mean, it's really cool. You know, I said, let it rip. And what what what do you have to fear?

Let it rip, man. I mean, you've already had a hell of a career already. And man, let's just go down fighting. Go back. Go down swinging.

Let's improve every week as a team and as a unit. And there's still going to be pitfalls. I mean, we're human. We're a young offense. Let's just have a great week and let's put our best foot forward and then Then we can turn the page the next week and see where we're at the next week.

That's all we can do. He just wants to stop talking about crap. Yeah, right? Let's stop talking about the crap. He's all business.

I mean, the guy's been a football coach for how long? Ever. And he's finally getting his shot. Yeah. And this is the BS he's got to talk about every crap.

Every single crap. Browns is going to brown a week. F that. F Dat. Yeah, put that on a banner.

Put that on a t-shirt. Let's wear it. Cleveland's going to play offs with Monken and Deshaun. Don't forget I had them as a sleeper team. Just isn't that amazing what happens.

After week one, it's just like, this is not going to work. What a disaster. After week two, we're we're like, oh you know what I mean? Oh, so who's going to hire a registrar on the Browns tomorrow? Who's doing it?

You're not? Definitely not. You are, Chris? I might. I think they might win.

Deshaun Watson, comeback player of the year, 75 to 1. You're throwing it out there. Oh. Oh my goodness. Guys have been playing two years.

Just came up with the win. Monkin, what's Monkin Coach of the Year? Give it to me. Let's see. The picture of the year.

All right, hold on. I got a quick 22 to 1. 22 to 1. Same as Ben Johnson. Come on, really?

Zach Taylor. That's insane. Really? Yeah. And then Ben Johnson, because everyone's just like.

We saw last year. Last year was his Coach of the Year campaign. If he does it again this year, it's now meeting expectations. Kellen Moore, your favorite? Kellen Moore is currently the favorite.

Through two weeks. Yeah. Okay. What's Jim Harbaugh, Coach of the Year? Jim?

Well, unavailable. He's last, 80 to 1. 80 to 1. Wow.

He's tied with Dan Quinn. Woof. Guess what? We're going to keep monitoring this week to week. Watch it rise.

Like Lazarus from the ashes. I don't even know if that's inappropriate. You want to parlay Jim Harbaugh, Coach of the Year? And Deshaun, comeback player the what do you got? What do we got?

Let's see. What do you got? A $1 bet will win you $6,000. Is these Chris Brockman's Wild Parliament? This is a Wild Future.

Wild Future? This is a Wild. It's a Wild Future. Wild Future. Futures.

Yeah, Harbaugh Coach of the Year, Deshaun comeback. A dollar, just put a buck. This is, by the way, the suggestions about what the Giants should do just get wilder and wilder. The phone lines are lit. I can't wait to take this call when we come back about what the Giants should do.

You see line one there, Christopher?

Well, I saw line six, too. I didn't see line six.

Okay. Oh, I mean, line one is great also. Oh, my God. No. 844-204-Rich.

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Okay, let's go to the phone lines here. Everybody wants to know what the Giants are going to do because the way Jameis Winston looked on Monday night in support of Jackson Dart, who's not coming back this year, it was so dire the Giants cannot sit tight. Jimmy G's been one suggestion. Another one is Zach Wilson. Ha ha ha.

Okay. And again, I'd want a I want a gajillion GoPros in the homes of every New York Giants fan or workplaces of every New York Giant fan that would learn. that the the former Jet quarterback is the Giants' choice to try and save the season. How did that work out the last time Zach Wilson was chosen to save a season for a quarterback that suddenly went poof on a Monday night game? He won seven games, right?

Yeah, just enough to not get a better quarterback in the draft. It's true. You guys are mad. Don't bring it up. Tell them out there to lose it.

Not happy. Wayne in Richmond, Virginia has an idea. Wayne! Wayne, what's in your head? What's your idea, Wayne?

What do you got? How you doing, Rich? First time calling a long time listener. Wayne, so you're coming out of the gate with this one. What you're saying?

You're coming out of the gate for the first time with this one, Wayne.

Okay, why not? keep it on the wall side. What do you got? Well Even though I'm not a Giants fan... I think The giants should save their pits.

And it trades. And give Philip Rivers will call. He looked sharp when he came out of retirement last year. Still got a lot of zip on the ball. Yes.

And coach Harbor would coach him up. Coach him up. Philip Rivers. Please give him a call. Give him a call.

He did it last year. What's another year to push back his Hall of Fame induction eligibility? Another year of insurance. That's it. Yeah.

Wayne in Richmond, you call back. Where have you been all our lives, Wayne? Keep it wild. I'm driving a tractor trailer. I hope everything's all right with the diesel prices for you and your business and your family.

I send my best to you, and hopefully, we can help pass the time while you do your gig. And thank you for this content. My God, thank you for the content. I'm so mad at you. Wayne and Richard Philip Rivers.

What a Philip Rivers comes off of the uh The high school coaching couch, again, right? He leaves the pickup drop-off line one more time. Shows up. Those are tough, all right. Wait for it.

To the team that drafted him. Oh, he tries his hardest like he did last year, but still struggles to put wins on the board. All right. And suddenly Helps the team that drafted him. and traded him For Arch's uncle.

Is now in a position. To draft Arch Manning himself. And show up. And try and win championships for the franchise that Uncle Eli brought to. Trophies.

Can't make it up. Can't have arts with the giants. Can't make it up. Is that in the script, TJ? There is a little matter of Philip wanting to do it.

B? He's coaching high school right now. B, B. And those are here's a B as well. He's still Jackson Dart.

His career is not over. And then there's the other option here is that this happens, and we do get to use the avatar. of Phillip Rivers Tribal Council over and over and over again. My back. He loved it.

That was the avatar that we created for our fantasy possibility based on last year when he had a. Conversation with his family. His family. I lost him in the first round. Family.

Families. To flatbetting the turkey. There it is, Phillip Rivers Travel Council. Are those his real children that are behind him that he had a conversation with? I doubt it.

I. Those are the show us what you think Phillip Rivers' kids look like. They're all handsome and beautiful children. Yeah, I don't know what's I'm saying they're not his stuff like that.

So we've had Zach Wilson, Philip, should we, and Jimmy G, right? Yeah, Jimmy G, yeah, yeah, yeah. Should we put a um A poll out there? A poll out? What should the Giants do?

We'll stick with Jameis. I mean, ultimately, that's what they're going to do. Yeah, exactly. By the way, Rich, you were asking me about Stephen Jones, and I told you I was keeping touch with Tad Carper, who's the senior VP of communication for the Cowboys. Bro, when I just looked in my phone, and yes, I do have Stephen Jones' number.

I completely forgot it was in there. Yeah, of course. Remember that you came up to me at the combine after Stephen Jones stopped by.

Well, that's like you should be having numbers. FaceTime Stephen Jones right now. And ask for shoes. Tickets. No, he needs tickets for the game tickets.

Oh, that's right. He needs to go to Rios. You need a ride. And the ribs. Ride down there.

Tickets. And the ribs. And shoes. Go. Rich, as a representative of the RES Rich Islands show, you should probably be happy that I'm not hitting him up because it would be a reflection.

Why? I don't care. This is a reflection upon you. I don't mind it. It's great content for the show if you wind up going to the Metroplex, hopping the when are they leaving?

They're leaving the day before the game? According to Jane Slater, this morning, they're leaving Thursday. Thursday. There you go. You got time.

We got tonight. Guess what? Sitting around. Tonight, you fly to Dallas, you hop on their team plane, you go with them. That would be great, except for one thing.

What's that? What would keep me from going out of the country. Oh, he doesn't have to. You don't have your passport today? He still doesn't have a passport.

He can't go anywhere. He's stuck. This guy. You can. Leave.

That's actually funny. You don't have enough time. You didn't go to London last time. Remember what happened? I was going to go to Columbia this summer, and then I went.

To look at my passport and expired. And so you've still since then done nothing about it. Have not. Because I don't have any plans on going. I didn't have any plans on going anywhere anytime soon.

He's treating. His passport, like it's the ping-pong table, he got for the price is right. It's just going to sit there and just get expired.

Well, one day I'll go out. We had five years on the ping-pong table. Is that what it is? It's coming up.

So. Ping pong table isn't even going to be good. The wolf said she might be interested in buying the ping pong table. All right, the poll is out. What should the Giants do?

Stick with Jameis, Zach Wilson, Jimmy G., Philip Rivers. Phillip Rivers. Uncle Rico. This has been a great. He's still around.

I love our listeners and viewers. He throws a steak well. They've got vivid imaginations, to say the least. Fantastic. That'll wrap it up for this edition of the Rich Eisen Show.

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