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Yeah. They're amazing. Cabin Fever Hostile. You're a horror movie guy? I like you.
Oh, a lot. Not a ton, but a lot. Ice Cream Man is in theaters tomorrow. He also was an Inglorious Bastard, so we'll talk about Tarantino in that movie. He's in studio shortly.
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You steer me out. Or got in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I would wear a green jacket, a gold jacket, not to go, you know, happy Gilmore on you. Uh I'd wear it everywhere. Yeah.
So, here on behalf of Novartis wearing his jacket, why not? That's Tony Gonzalez, right? Hey, you know, right? Let's go. Look at that flex, Tony.
Look at that flex. Every day. Every day, Rich. I don't leave the house without wearing this jacket.
Now, by the way, let's talk about this jacket a little bit. First of all, look inside it. What number are you? What number? Uh hold on, I don't even 322.
322.
Now, 320, what that means is he's the 322nd member inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Yeah, that's the way it works. The numbers inside the jacket, man. Like, that is so cool. And I would where's where's the craziest place you've worn the jacket?
Um, I have worn it to dinners. I've worn it to family reunions. Yeah, all uh, you know, to the barbershop, I wear it, dude. I wear it anywhere. And you strike me as one of those Hall of Famers that you've never tailored that jacket, right?
Like you don't have to let it out. Is what I'm saying. No, no, no, no, no. I'm on the protein, creatine, working out still.
So I'm still good. Still good. I bet. When was the last time you got a call? to see if you wanted to play.
Oh shoot, uh maybe the I retired in 2013, so maybe 2015, about two years afterwards. Who was it? Was it Atlanta seeing if you wanted to still play, or who was it? It was more, I don't know if it was, they were joking about it. It's just when I'd see coaches at the Hall of Fame or around at the Super Bowls, hey, you still could play.
You can come out there and give us a serious. Why not? And right now, that's over. Yeah. Because, I mean, one of the reasons why I ask is obviously, you know.
I think Aaron Donald's going to do it, right? He's coming back, wouldn't you say? Right now, I think so. Yeah, yeah. Why?
If he can go and he's got the Motzi, the umph to do it, and he's testing his body out right now. I will say the reason he's coming back is the only, I think the main reason is to play with Miles Garrett. I mean, he could have came back last year if it was about money or Super Bowl. They had a Super Bowl team last year.
So it's just to play with that guy and let's do something legendary together.
So I hope he comes back. You know what it means if he comes back. You know, and he's right there in the middle of the defense. Uh I think tight ends might be asked to chip Miles Garrett a little bit more. Tony, get on it.
Mm-hmm. Trust me, tight ends don't want any part of that. Certain tight ends. Certain tight ends want a little bit of that, but most tight ends, they want to go out and catch balls. Jeez, I mean, it is kind of stupid to think that this is going to happen, right?
I mean, what it would look like. I think it's incredible. I mean, could you imagine if Reggie White teamed up with Lawrence Taylor? I mean, this is what we're talking about. It's that duo right there.
It's the best of the best. Right now, Aaron Donald is arguably the best defensive player ever. And Miles Garrett, if he keeps it up, his name's going to be in that hat. Certainly is the best defensive player in the NFL right now.
So it's going to be special to watch. It's not going to be fair. If those guys stay healthy, I mean, how do you beat those guys with the MVP of the league on the other side of the ball throwing the ball? It's going to be fun to watch. Hey, Tony, I know you're 322 in the history of the pro football thing being inducted, but not all 300-plus were first ballot guys like you were.
Those two guys are. Like, you could say that right now. We just know they're going to join you in the first ballot club, which is even more of a. uh a tighter you know circle than the the actual circle of Canton, Ohio. And so I don't know.
I mean, you know, you're going to see him on Thursday night. We already spoke with Witt earlier in the week. You know, and you'll see the Rams on a Thursday night, and they're going to be. They're going to be the team that I think everyone's talking about all year long going to the season. Would you not agree?
And they should. And they should. I mean, like I said before, you got two of the best to ever play. And we'll see what Aaron Donald can do. Obviously, taking two years off, it's not going to be a cakewalk, especially the defensive tackle position, getting that double team.
It's a lot more physical than a receiver or a tight end coming back. But I got a feeling he's going to be able to do it. But, I mean, offensively, what they have, coaching, one of the best coaches in the league. They're going to be that team, that Chicago Bulls team tooling around. Must see when they get off the bus, everybody's going to be there waiting just to get a glimpse.
I got a feeling it's going to be something special. And there's so many players we're not even talking about. They're loaded, super duper loaded, the best roster in the league. And I don't think it's any secret too. One of the best coach teams in the league.
That week 13, man, it's the Chiefs in SoFi taking on the Rams, too. I mean, talk about a game right up your alley, too, with the Chiefs coming in. Alaby Psyched. He only needs to take a courtesy card of the game. It's pretty going to be great.
So that is just a massive game on a terrific schedule for Amazon Thursday Night Football Prime video coverage of Thursday night. Action in the NFL coming up this season. What's your take on the Chiefs this year? Tony, uh, obviously, I think the injury, Patrick Mahomes, uh, which I have no doubt, I don't ever doubt that guy. Uh, we had our Amazon seminar last night, and and and one of the things they made fun of me was that I'm the the uh eternal optimist when it comes to the Chiefs.
I can't quit them. Obviously, I played for him, but I think Patrick Mahomes, if if he's healthy, they always have a chance. Uh, Chris Jones is still there. I do think with Travis Kelsey coming back, I'm glad they got him back for leadership and he can play. Uh, I don't count them out at all at all.
Uh, I still think they got it, they're gonna win the AFC West. I'll put it out there.
So, um, it's gonna be a great matchup, especially come that Rams Chiefs game is gonna be a must-watch.
Now, uh, who would have been the player to get you out of retirement again? Just to circle back on that one. You know, that that Donald is like, I'll come back.
Okay, Miles Garrett's here. Like let's just say you were sitting wherever you were in twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen. Who would have been that one for you? That's well, I did. I did have that one, and I think I've talked about it before.
Um, but I had Tom Brady called me up, said, Come throw with me. Uh, and you know, he's a friend of mine anyway.
So I was like, Oh, yeah, I thought I was doing him a favor. We went out there to throw the ball around. I get there, there's nobody else there except me. I thought we were gonna go play. I was up at UCLA, uh, except him and his whole Tom House, and everybody back then as nutritionists, his whatever sleep coach, mental coach, uh, and all these guys.
And we threw around for a little while. And then at the end of it, he was like, Hey, you think you can still play? You think he gave me the pitch? And, and, and, but I obviously said no, which looking back, I was probably the stupidest thing I ever did because I think they won the Super Bowl that year, but uh, but yeah, I had the chance. I did, I did not take it, I didn't take it.
So, this was the Patriots, Belichick, Gronk, yeah, you and Gronk would have been on the same field. Whoa, yep, yep, double-tight. I would have played with Gronk. would have been with Tom, Belichick, all that stuff for if, you know. Yeah.
Yeah rich, uh you know, what do you gotta do? You know, life's about making mistakes and balancing.
Okay. Tony, if there's many things that you could be called somebody who makes mistakes, I would take your mistakes in life. Tom, you know, like honestly, starting with telling Mooch, I'm not playing for you. You know, and Cal. Yeah, I'm out of here.
You win some, you win some, you lose some. I'm not deuces. I'm not playing for you. I'm going pro. Yeah.
Wow.
Okay. So that could have happened, but everything else is hunky-dory for you. That's no doubt about that. Tell me about Novartis. What are you doing with them?
Tony.
Well, I've teamed up with Novartis. If you remember the Super Bowl ad, Relax Your Tight End with all the tight end speaking of Gronk was in it, George Kittle. But it's about bringing awareness to prostate cancer and early detection, which is key. And it's just a simple blood test. Early detection saves lives.
It's close and personal to me. My grandfather passed away from prostate cancer and colon cancer. My uncle passed away from prostate cancer. And I have one uncle alive right now, but he has prostate cancer.
So it runs in my family. I'm at risk for it. And so I just want to spread the word of going out there and getting a simple blood test. And it could ultimately help save your life. Early detection is so crucial to prevention of something.
Um uh that that can kill you. And it's called Relax, It's a Blood Test. That's the name of the campaign. Because it is just a blood test, that's it. And relax, it's a bloodtest.com to do it.
It'll save lives. It'll. It'll, um, it's so crucial. Uh there's no question about uh all of that. What's your who who'd you go into the Hall of Fame with?
Again, uh, Thai law. Um You put me on the spot right now. Look it up, 2019. It's like a wedding weekend, man. Like your head's spinning.
Your family's there. You know, your dreams have officially come true. You know what I mean? And it. And the thing I do love about a canton class, Tony, is it's like The football gods randomly selecting a bunch of people, and you get to know them.
You know what I mean? It's pretty cool. Yeah, Kevin Mawai, we had the best time out there. You're bonded for life. It's such a special experience for yourself, for your family, all the culmination of all your dreams that you work so damn hard for, and your family gets to be there with you.
It's more about them, honestly. At least for me, it was just as much about them as it was for me to share that moment with them. Just a cool thing. Insane class. Champ Bailey, Pat Bolan, Gil Brandt, Tony, Tylaw, Kevin Mawai, Ed Reed, and Johnny Robinson.
Ed Reed. Awesome class. Ed Reed. Ed Reid. Do you ever you ever you got a story about going against him?
Well, I mean, every time we win against Baltimore, him and Ray and the rest of those guys, one of the best defenses ever. And Ed is. Arguably the best safety ever.
So, yeah, much respect. And he's one of the coolest cats you could ever meet off the field with his hair and his hat. And we had so much fun with him. Yeah. And I can't wait to see what Travis has got cooked up, man, in Kansas City this year.
I do look forward to that. You know, and obviously um seeing him, you you're you're the standard. at the position in Kansas City. I'm wondering what it's like for you to watch him. do what he's doing and become Who he is.
I always say it's a little bittersweet from the sense that I love Travis. I am so happy for him, what he's done with that position. But the success that they've had, but it's always, every time I come to kids, you see it, I'm a little like, geez, I wish I could have had it like this when I was here. I mean, just the winning and the culture that they've established out there. And it starts with him.
I really do believe it. He is the guy who has set the tone in that locker room. Incredible leader. That's another reason, yeah, he's getting a little up there. He's probably, you know, I thought maybe he'd retire last year.
Maybe this will be his last year. But for him, from a mental standpoint, from a leadership standpoint, with the guys in the locker room, it's just you can't ever underestimate how important that is to a team. And I'm so glad he came back for that reason alone. And I think he's going to still go out there. I mean, the thing about those two, maybe the explosiveness isn't there like it used to be, but they're on the same page.
Those guys, I mean, Travis will go up his 10 yards. He's supposed to run a corner route. He'll just turn around and Pat knows how to pop it to him.
So they'll have success and they're going to be able to move the chains. And that's why I'm still excited about the Chiefs.
Well, I'm looking forward to watching you again on Thursday Night Football on Amazon Prime. What a big game. Lions at Bills, the new. Stadium is the opener for week two this upcoming season, and then some other great games, some terrific matchups. Uh on the docket.
And it's great to see you again, man. Yeah, always good hanging out with you, bud. Appreciate you. Right back at you. That's Tony Gonzalez again.
Relax, it's a bloodtest.com to learn how you. Can check to see if prostate cancer is in your family or it's something that you can prevent early. From happening to you. Good to see you, Tony. You're the man.
Take care. There's Tony Gonzalez, everybody, right here on the Rich Eisen Show. one of the best of the best right there, and I would wear that jacket too, every single time. three twenty two That's what's inside the jacket.
So cool. I'll ask everybody when they come, how many when I see. Hutch and Marshall And also Um Willie Rolfe? Yeah, who's going to wear their jackets tomorrow? I would bet all of them.
I don't know about that. Really? Hmm. How about that? Why is that?
I think they might wear their golf shirts. Depends on how hot it is out there. Yeah, like the Big Man, like Willie Rofe, is still a bad season. Yeah, man. Willie's going to join us.
I've seen him walk around there in his jacket. And of course, Luke Keekly won't have his jacket, Red. He's going to get it that night. Get it. 844-204-RICH, number to dial.
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So, you know, it's all in good fun. By the way, our radio audience just rejoined with the words using intestines to the jump rope, which is so they're driving around in their cars right now, like, wait a minute. That was the voice and is the voice of Eli Roth, director, co-writer, producer, actor in the horror sections. Ice Cream Man, which is in theaters near you, coming up. Look at that movie poster.
For those of you on watching right now, it's Friday, August 7th. We're we're on the cusp of it right now. And so these kids who are committing all of these horrible acts on film Uh do do they need some Form of therapy. I offered. It's weird.
I offered. My father's a psychoanalyst, and I said, you know, we could have him on tap if we need therapy. And I apologize for the therapy bills later in their teen years. But what's crazy is the kids loved it. Once you put the monster makeup on, they didn't want to take it off.
And there's a rule that the parents have to have visual eye contact with their children at all times.
So as part of having the children, as part of the kids on set.
So the parents are horror fans.
So everybody knew what I told. It was very clear what we're doing.
So I had like. 30 moms standing behind me if I'm looking at the monitor and they're like, you know, my daughter would like a fake head. And can't my son have a leg? And my kid needs more blood. My kid needs, so you get the stage parents like trying to, and the kids, but the craziest thing about shooting with kids is they really understand make-believe and real.
So, you know, they're covered in the fake blood. They're playing jumper with the intestines. And it's, you got to break them every 45 minutes because they're, they're children.
So with the extras, and we're shooting in a heat wave in Toronto, and there's 100 extras and 20 stunt people.
So it takes about 40 minutes to set up. You get like one or two minutes to get the shot. And I was like, roll camera. And some kid just put his hand up, like a five-year-old kid. And I said, yes, like it's class.
And he goes, my shoe's untied. And I said, Well, okay, we'll wait. Nothing but time. Please tie your shoe. And he goes, He puts his hand up.
I go, Yes? He goes, Where's my mom? And I was like, oh, he doesn't know how to tie his shoe yet.
So, like, the kids, the actors are like, we got it. They tied his shoe, and then the kid went back to like hacking up the teacher with the mask. That wasn't the problem. The shoe, or we had a hundred kids dressed like zombies, like they're waiting for the ice cream. The ice cream man shows up at school, and all the kids get up and leave class.
And the teachers are like, Excuse me, what's going on? And the kids are in bloody pajamas, and no one knows what's going on. And so you line up the hundred kids, you know, you plan the thing, you put everyone in makeup, you get them set, and one bee came along, and the kids are like, A B, and they all ran. That was it. The B is now, the B is directing your movie.
So it's, it's, but then you could say, okay, who wants to do a Snow Angel in Blood? The kids are like, I'll do it, I'll do it, I'll do it.
So, you know, it's good and bad. We're creating future actors and potential therapy. I think we're giving therapists a lot of business, but I always say, you know, it was Tarantino who said, like, you know, violent movies don't cause violence, they cause violent filmmakers. And I'm proof of that. I grew up like just ingesting horror movie after horror movie, and all I wanted to do was make horror movies.
But what's funny with kids now is they're so savvy. Like, they, you know, because when we saw a decapitation we were kids, it was completely shocking.
Now they'll go on that person's TikTok or Instagram and go, Hey, I loved when your head got cut off. They'll go, Thanks.
So they're completely aware. They've seen every episode of Walking Dead. Everything's on YouTube. Like, nothing. They were like, Yeah, it's makeup.
Little phases at this point in time, I guess, now that everything is so, I guess, accessible. You mentioned Tarantino. I want to put a pin in that for the moment, but you're. Horror movie of your youth that made you say, I want to do that professionally, is what? Alien.
I saw it in the theater at the Chestnut Hill Cinema, and I sat there and it said produced by. And I turned to my dad, I said, I want to be a producer. My dad said, Well, you know, the producer has to come up with all the money. And then it said, Directed by Ridley Scott. I said, What does the director do?
He said, Well, director gets to spend all the money and tell everybody what to do. I was like, Oh, I want to do that. I want to do that. And then I noticed that, like, Stanley Kubrick, it said produced and directed by Stanley Kubrick. I'm like, Why is that?
And I, and at my like bar mitzvah, the rabbi is like, Well, you have to say what you want to do with your life. And I was like, I want to be a producer, director. And the rabbi said to me, But do you want to be a producer or a director? I don't know. I said, Both.
It's the only way to retain control of your cut. I mean, the rabbi looked at me. He's like, I don't know what language that was, but yeah, great. Movie producer, director. I was like, Stanley Kubrick did it, and he had a bar mitzvah.
So I'm doing it like him. But I just had this awareness as a kid of all I want to do is make movies. And now, with my company, The Horror Section, we're releasing it in theaters. This movie terrified. Three came out unrated with insane amounts of violence, and it was a huge, huge hit.
So, theater chains are way more open to having an unrated movie.
So, we're trying a self-release. We're doing it. We did this movie completely outside the studio system. We raised money and we're just putting it out there, hoping we, you know, hoping it works. Normally, a rabbi involved with a cut is a bris, but that's right.
Oh, yeah, an audience theater did that. But, what you so alien alien you call a horror movie? It's not science fiction. It was science fiction, but when you're a kid and you're like sitting there terrified and petrified, there was sort of this line where if something was killed, you know, the chest burster in my mind made it a horror movie. It was John Hurt, right?
It was John Hurt with the chest bursting and Veronica Cartwright's reaction and what Ridley Scott did. That feeling of the alien bursting out of the chest. Oh, my God. And I say that's why people love going to horror movies. You know, you can pirate a movie, but that adrenaline rush, that heart-pounding adrenaline rush, you have to see it in a theater.
It's like a sports event. You can watch it on TV or you can go live. There's nothing like being there live at the game. And that's what a great horror movie can do in a theater. It's like being at the game.
But that feeling when I saw the chestburst was like, and the last 10 minutes that movie, I think I remember I was in the aisle, like in a sprinting pose, just looking back over my shoulder. That's how I watched the last 10 minutes. Because you were just afraid. I was terrified. It was a mix of Jaws and Star Wars.
I had missed Jaws.
So you just heard stories about Jaws, but I'd seen Star Wars. And people were saying, This is like Jaws and Star Wars combined. And I just was like, I had to know what happened. I think I ran outside the theater and I threw up. That's what I used to do.
I used to barf in movies. That to me is like, so if anyone has a running barf during Ice Cream Man, put it on social media, TikTok it. Like a running barf is the highest compliment you can get for your movie when it sprays over a wall or something. Uh-huh.
Okay. Like they couldn't even hold it. They just had to bolt out of the theater. I just remember, I think I saw Alien on VHS, like rented it. Yes.
Like I don't believe I saw it in a movie theater. I don't have a recollection of that. But the alien gestating in a human and then popping out in the middle of dinner. Yaffet Koto was in that scene as well. Incredible.
Tom Scarrett. I mean, my gosh, right. What a cast it was as well. But, and then seeing that. pop up and then run off.
Oh, nothing is up. See you later. And now you're wondering where it's coming from the rest of the film. And every time they find it, there's new clues. I mean, just Harry Dean Stanton.
Also, it was kind of like a workplace drama where you see they're like, well, we'll go, but what about our bonuses? We've got to get more shares. Like, okay, these guys are the machinists, and this is the captain, like the classism, the stuff that that script did. And there's a great movie called Darkstar that John Carpenter directed that Dan O'Bannon, who wrote Alien, wrote. It was John Carpenter's student film about an alien on a ship.
And there's a lot of the elements from the script of Alien that got it from Darkstar that made it into Alien. What would you say, again, for some folks who might hear Alien, they don't consider it a horror movie. It's more of a science fiction, like a. Quintessential horror film. The Exorcist.
I mean, for me, the Holy, the Trinity, it's The Exorcist, The Evil Dead, The Shining. Those are foundational. The Shining. The Shining. It's a horror film.
The Shining is a horror film. I mean, it's a very, I mean, you could say it's a drama. You can make all kinds of arguments about it, but that it's a ghost story and it's about demons and personal ghosts. But it is a terrifying, disturbing movie. Not a success upon release.
It took many years. I mean, got Razzie Award nominations. It took many years for that movie to become revered the way it is. The Exorcist became the highest-grossing film of all time. And I asked William Friedkin, I said, when he was alive, I said, you know, this is my favorite horror film.
He said, I didn't make a horror film. I made a drama. The subject matter was horrific. And I think that's what made it so terrifying is it played so real that you felt like you were watching a girl who was possessed. And then The Evil Dead, to me, that was Sam Raimi was 20 or 21 years old when he made it for $350,000 in the woods.
That's what made me want to make my first film, Cabin Fever. I thought, oh my gosh, you don't have to be from Hollywood. You don't need $100 million. You could actually get, if you can cobble together, you know, $350,000 in a camera, you can go in the woods and make a movie. That's your movie, right, Cabin Fever.
I love Cabin Fever.
Well, thank you. Cabin Fever is one of my favorite. I remember the first time I watched it and I was like, okay, where's it going? And then I'm like, oh, this is like. Rich Eisen here for Gusto.
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And then it just builds. To the point, it's great. It was unbelievable. Thank you. I appreciate it.
Hostile too. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, like, by the way, that's the highest praise you can get from Mike, who doesn't really speak in full sentences. That's usually the highest praise you can give. You know, the weird thing when you're making a horror movie is actually the highest comp the best compliment is I couldn't watch it, or I watched it on the inside.
Like, if you really do your job with all the makeup effects and the music and the lighting and the cinematography and everything, and people are watching it like this, that's exactly what you want. Yeah, I mean, like, that it where you could not, yeah, people are like, I was like, I left, you know, halfway through, or like, I threw up, I couldn't watch it.
So, you actually want this, you know, kind of shocked reaction. That's sort of the point of a horror film. And then you watch it again and again. And, like, the thing is, the haunted house is only scary the first time. When you always have these things at the end of the decade, they'll go back and look at movies.
They're like, Hostile wasn't that scary. It's like no movie is scary when you watch it again, but that's when you start to see the photography, the things, the costumes, all those little things you notice. You can watch them over and over. But that initial scare, it's like. You know, it's like a cologne or perfume.
Like you open the bottle, it's like, whoa, and then over years, it just gets less and less potent. Horror movies are like that, but then other things come to the surface. Like Jay Hernandez, in the incredible, it's amazing, it's insane. Yeah, Jay was great. What's your favorite acting performance in a horror film?
That you could recall. I mean, there are so many great ones. I mean, look, I feel like Linda Blair and the Exorcist should have gotten the Oscar. I mean, or Jason Miller should have gotten it. That is brilliant.
Or Shelly Duvall in The Shining. The Shining. Are just so incredible. Or Bruce Campbell in Evil Dead 2 is so unbelievable. Recently, we all saw Obsession, and we're like, oh, yeah, Indy Navarette should win Best Actress.
I mean, I'm sure there are a lot of great performances, but to do what she did with that performance, where it's just on her face and her smile and the way she goes, no, no, no, no. And what's so great is you're watching a person do it. It's not a makeup effect. It's not a trick. It's just like a chilling performance of someone who looks like they're possessed.
It was incredible. Eli Roth here on The Rich Eisen Show, Ice Cream Man in Theaters Nationwide Friday, August 7th. And there's the movie poster there up on the screen. You mentioned moments ago Tarantino when you did Inglorious Bastards. What did you pick up from him?
Anything? I mean, there's so many things. I mean, Quentin was very much you'd think that everything's kind of storyboarded and framed out. Quentin is performance first. And he's talked about this, so I'm not like revealing anything.
But what I noticed with Quentin was that he wants you to know your characters inside and out. Like, it's not about the script. You have to know who this person was, where were they yesterday, where are they going now? Like, you really, he builds a universe and he wants you to know it that way. And when he's staging a scene, It's like nobody's there.
It's you and him. And the actors work it out. And then he brings in Bob Richardson, the cameraman, and then we're like, okay, let's put it there. And then it kind of builds from there. But really, the core of it.
Is what if there was nobody here and we were here doing the scene, what would we do if we didn't know we were being filmed? And then you work it out from there and then you bring in the camera.
So, his whole thing about performance, performance, and that was something I never, and he doesn't watch the monitor, he stands at next to the camera watching the actors. And the other thing he noticed was that often the camera's on you, your mirror, okay, I nailed it, I nailed it.
Well, now the camera's around, and they're on another actor, and you just start kind of goofing off and throwing stuff away. And that's there's gold there.
So, Quentin, he's like always watching your off-camera, and he will turn around and relight if you come up with something like that. Antonio Maragarreti, like we were on me, and I did a bunch of versions of it, and then we turned around. We're filming Christophe Waltz, and we had just kind of come in and we were like sort of half-dressed, or we weren't really planning on being on camera again. And Quentin saw, like, we figured it out, and Quentin's like, That's it. And he turned around, relight, and we redid it.
But it took us shooting it. doing it where the coverage is just on christoph for us to find it and then he turned around and then like then it was like me and brad and omar and diane like it took a few times so quenton told me he's like he's also said like a lot of actors i mean if you have a budget you can do it they like to reshoot their first day like and nobody's great their first day so don't be afraid to reshoot stuff i have so many follow-up questions okay first of all the scene you're referring to in christoph waltz is where you guys are trying to pass yourself yeah we're passing ourselves off as italian is italian and he he sees straight through yeah he knows exactly what we're doing he's 10 steps ahead of us because he's like well again his character is one of the most fascinating characters in any tarantino film or any film at all he won the oscar for his performance but just The fact that He's fluent in all these languages. There's no fooling him. He knows everything. But in real life, though, right?
Like, what was that like to be playing across from him in that scene? People say, aren't you intimidated working with a great actor? It's actually much easier. When you're working with an actor that mumbles or doesn't give you anything, you have to overdo it. When there's an actor like Christoph, you just react because he's so good.
And look, he's the nicest guy in the world, but he kind of kept to himself for the first part. Of the movie, like later by the end, we're all you know hanging out. We met him at the beginning, and I'm like, you know, it's like very close with him. Yes, but when you're watching him up close, you're like, This is the greatest performance I've ever seen from anything that's happening in front of my face. But you have to act, and he's giving you so much to react to.
Like, what did he give to you? Like, where he's just like, I'll give you a look, or like, kind of slap you on the shoulder, and you just have to stand there. You're just like, and I remember just kind of doing this slow burn to brag, going like, oh, you know, this look that wasn't, that wasn't scripted, that was just like me as the character really reacting, like, oh, this guy's onto us, we're gonna get killed. And, you know, it's, it was so much fun, and also with, you know. Brad was great.
He's like, everybody wants to be in it. You know, Quentin has no cell phones on set, so everyone's there. You're just like fully immersed in the moment. But when you're working with an actor who's great, it's actually much easier because you're not pretending. You can really just, you know, react to what they're doing, honestly.
And obviously the scene in which you are somewhat introduced as the Bear Jew. The Bear Jew, Donnie Donowitz, and you're coming out of the tunnel with a bat. With a bat getting ready to, you know. kill he kept me in that tunnel for five days before we shot it are you serious yeah i mean he was like he's like i will get to it today and i'd be back there we set up like a punching bag and wait so i and like a pull-up bar so i could just like Just like stay angry and sweaty.
So I was like a caged animal. And finally, at the end, I was just like, I was really, you know, he'd get to the end and go, oh, we're not getting to it. I'm like, oh.
So, just like each day, by the time we got to it, I was really, really ready.
Okay. And then he let me rant because Marty Katrosser, who's a script supervisor, is from Springfield Mass. I was like, can I like showboat a little for the guys? And like, all the way, you know, he went yada on that one all the way to Lansdown Street. Like, I could really let my inner mass hole out.
I was going to ask you that question because you're from Massachusetts. Yeah. And then once you connect. With the bat. Yeah.
You start talking about Fenway and Ted Williams. Yeah. Were you? Was that Adlin by you? Yeah, that was Adlin.
I mean, look, I love Quentin. I like, he's the greatest writer in the world. And, you know, there are very few people that he would trust to do that. But it was just like in the script, I beat him, but I asked him, I was like, Would it be okay if after I Kill him if I just do a little, like, I'm this is the closest we get to go to the movies. I want to entertain the guys, I want to showboat a little bit, and then he's like, Yeah, you can do it.
And he let me like, really, really rant. Like, that full, that full rant just came out of me. About Ted Williams? Yeah, Teddy Williams, who went out on that one all the way to Lansdowne Street. Like, that's exactly where that guy would be.
He'd be like in Boston in his head. You know, like thinking about all that stuff. And that's that's part of Tarantino saying, know your character. That's what Tarantino. Like, I remember we had a script read-through the first day, and he's like, Close your scripts.
And he's like, When did you first join the bastards? And he's like, Who are you? And I was like, Well, you know, I'm Donny Donowitz. I grew up in Dorch. And I, and I had gone to Boston, I'd researched the street, I talked to World War II veterans, I talked to people that were alive in Dorchester at that time, where I would have lived, what my apartment building would have been.
Like, I had a full book of who Donnie Donowitz was.
So, he want, and I knew Quentin, I know Quentin well enough to know that he would want that. And he really imparted that me in all of my characters that I write. When I write my characters now, and the character is an ice cream, man, I don't like it to feel like written dialogue. I like to feel like you just kind of dropped in on that family having dinner. Like, it feels real, like you're sitting there, the way the kids talk to each other.
The kids are fully swearing in the movie, and they feel like the kids are like, This is the first time we can actually talk like a 12-year-old in a movie. We're not, we know, because I hate kids acting like that. I want them to talk like the kids in Stranger Things, right? Where you're bad news bears, where like they really talk like kids.
So, Quentin really taught me that, like, you really have to know these people the way you know your best friends. If you're writing dialogue for anyone. Anyone in this room, you know exactly what they would say at any given moment, or you have a really good approximation of it because you know them and you know what their background is. And that's why I think Quentin is you know the greatest writer. He's like, he's really like a novelist, but he thinks of his characters as the most important thing.
Everything comes from the characters, and that's something he tried to impart with me. I mean, look, I know Ice Cream Man is like insanity and gore, and it's loony tunes, and it's more kills than all my movies combined. But I actually try to write great characters, or I don't think people are going to care about the movie. I want people to watch the movie going, man, I love those kids in Ice Cream Man, their characters were great. Love this conversation, man.
I can't get enough of process and how it works and how people get inspired.
Sorry, Quentin made us tell our entire backstories. And there were people that hadn't worked on it. And they were like, one guy got bounced. He fired someone. Because he thought he was just going to be like one of the people in the background with one line or something.
And Quentin's like, you don't know who your character is? How are you going to play these scenes, even silent? He wants everyone to know everything about their characters. I talked for two hours about Donnie. Brad did the same thing.
Like, we all went around the table just talking about it. And that was the first rehearsal.
So we all kind of knew who each other was. He asked us about a million scenes that didn't happen in the story. He's like, well, what did your character do when this happened, when that happened? I was like, well, I thought this, blah, blah, blah. But we had all.
Prepared for it. And it was fun. That's exciting. As an actor, you never get to do that anymore. There's no rehearsals anymore.
People don't rehearse like that. They just parachute in, they shoot, and they leave. I'd love to know what Christoph Waltz said about his character. He had a whole thing. He kept us separate.
Quentin kept Christophe separate. Christoph doesn't read anything. He just focused on Landa. He doesn't like, he wasn't ingesting pop culture or being on a cell phone. Christoph knew this was the role of a lifetime.
And he just went into learning the character, learning the lines. He could think of the reason it's so brilliant is like he can think of every single moment. It was a lifetime of preparation for that role for him. Damn. Eli Roth, Ice Cream Man in Theaters Nationwide tomorrow, Friday, August 7th.
And Snoop Dogg did the music, huh? Snoop Dogg did, yeah. I worked with this composer, Brandon Roberts, who's amazing. We've done, he won the Emmy for Andor. And I was talking with Snoop because we have a horror movie we want to do together, and there's a fake trailer, there's a trailer for it on Ice Cream Man.
I don't know if you can bleep it out, but the title of the movie is Don't Go in the House, bitch. That's actually the title of the movie.
So I want it to be like a ridiculous haunted house movie, and I'm Snoop Dogg's gonna be in it.
So we've been talking about Don't Go in the House, bitch.
So I told him about Ice Cream Man, and he's like, hey, I got some music, and he sent me this score. Like not rap music, score. It was incredible. So I was working with Brandon, my composer, and we listened to the Stoomus. We were like, this is so good.
We don't want to touch. There's a sequence where the music shifts in the kind of the Kid Pocalypse playground attack. It's like, stuff you never would have think. That's Snoop Dogg's music. And then I told him, you know, ice cream, you scream, we scream, ice cream.
And he sent me like this incredible song. We use it in the end credits. I mean, the guy's the best. I absolutely love him.
So yeah, the next thing I just want to make, and Nas is an exec producer too.
So I just want to make, you know, horror movies with Snoop and Nas and just kind of doing our own thing. That's the fun thing of doing it outside the studios. You don't need anyone's permission.
Well, this has been a blast chatting with you. Thank you. Thanks for watching. Appreciate it. Thanks for coming here.
Really appreciate it. Thanks for the support. We need it. You know, that opening weekend, I think people are, there's nothing quite like it.
Well, it's coming up this very weekend. Ice Cream Man. Everybody check it out. Theaters nationwide. Eli Rolfe here on The Rich Eyes and Show.
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Yeah, great job. You are a little. Ooh. Oh. Susie and I were a little sympathetic.
In the beginning, I'm not going to lie. What do you mean? What do you mean? You weren't as good as now, right, Susie? You agree?
Yeah. Yeah, Mike. Whatever you say. You're saying he was Basora? I'm kidding.
When did we say nothing? No, it's not. I used to get back. That was the notes we got. We got recorded.
We get noted. What do we get? We first started here. We got a lot of notes. A lot of notes.
A lot of notes. It's been a long time. I don't take notes no more. No more notes. When was the last time we got a note?
I'm smart. Everyone else is gone. Have you met Susie Schuster? She's got notes. Oh, that's true.
No, I'm really going.
So bore positive. I am channeling Ted Lasso. I am going to only say positive things. I'm putting positive energy in the world here. Moving everything.
See how she's working. Bro, I've got like four minutes for promoting. How would you just call this? How would you mention Ted Lasso?
Well, Rich, that's because today on Women's Sports Now, we have a doozy. We have Jason Sudeikis joining us, which is very exciting. I give all the credit to Saratiana because she likes she's so like, let me just text him. There he is.
Now he's on the show. Wow.
So I think Saratiana. I go like this to you, I bow down to you, and we. There is no I in women's. But there's an I in Tiana. There is two in two and Tiana.
Two and Tiana. Yeah, two. Plus, you know, listen, she. Crushed it. No, there's not.
There's one eye in Tiana. One I in Tiana. Oh, God. There's two A's in Tiana. Wow.
Milks over here. Crushed it at Big Slick. Hurst it at Big Slick. She's awesome. It was spectacular.
And then who's in studio, Suze? Oh, not going to lie, somebody named Kylie Kelsey. Count the eyes in that. Kylie, one, one eye. Yeah, how's that going?
Hi, how are you? That is so cool. No, it's a why. It's a why. She'll be the third Kelsey to ever walk into the studio.
Mm-hmm. Oh. Yes, that's true. And Jason, Jason, but by far the most beautiful. I would have.
Fully leave that to you as you are. You know, you are, I'm, I'm, I only have eyes for you. Oh, sweetie, that's so nice. There's an I and Rich and Isaac. Ladies and gentlemen, that's an awesome show.
We have, this is exactly why we wanted to do a show. Right. Today is so much fun. Just to be able to go into the world of entertainment, to have somebody like Kylie come on, to talk about the FIBA roster, and I can say, What the hell were you thinking now? Putting Olivia Miles on it.
So, this is kind of like my idea of a perfect day. The whole squad is here, Renee's here, Colleen's here, Sarah's here, and I'm in that chair over here. The squad's back together. And Ted Lasso season four just dropped, as the kids say on Apple TV. And um he's coaching a women's team and he went to the is maybe the Is there a bigger New York we were asking this before a bigger New York Liberty celebrity fan than Jason Sadegas?
No, and as much as he can. There isn't. And I'm not going to lie, Rich. I did. You did ask me to wait to watch Ted Lasso with you.
But I snuck a little bit in. I know. You're a professional. You have to see episode one before Jason. It's so happy.
It's great. We all need a little bit of Ted Lasso in our life. And we will talk about the Liberty. We're going to talk about why he's so invested in women's sports and what that means for sports everywhere. Six Eastern.
As it is every single Thursday on ESPN, the app, as well as. Disney Plus, Hulu, the the full Digital family of networks. Suze is here. Jason Sudekis will zoom in at 6 Eastern, and then Kylie Kelsey here in studio. And then I'm heading to I'm in Canton, you're here, I'm there.
You're here, I'm there.
So I'll be in Kenton, Ohio, doing the jacket dinner Friday night, and then with Kurt Warner and Lewis Riddick on ESPN for the Saturday induction ceremony. We're back to wrap up this show on Disney Plus with Suze in a moment. Uh The Rich Eisen Show Podcast. Mm-hmm.
