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K.A. Petty Guerrero. Hey, yo, it's me. It's me. It's the T-Dou O, that J-I-G-G to J TJ Jefferson.
What's cracking, man? Man, Father's Day. That was it. Another weekend. You know, this is my past weekend.
My, my. Eighth. Going around the sun, you know. I'm a father. Happy Father's Day to you, brother.
Thank you, man. I appreciate you. You know, my brother is a father now. My dad's been a father since I've been alive, and my brother and all that. Yeah.
It was like a great day. You know, three of us just fathering it. Nice. I hope all the dads out there had a great weekend this past weekend. Yes, and I want to thank you, TJ, because.
My dad loved his Jordans. A word? The world's best dads.
Okay. Yep. And he liked the tongue. He was talking about, like, he picked up the threes and he was like. I remember when I couldn't afford.
Right. You know, he said, you know, most dads, like my dad's era. They got ties, you know. They got ties every year. I'm in the era of getting J's.
No, wait a minute.
Now, those threes came out in '88.
So, oh, that's right, though, because come on, man. Yeah, his money was being wasteful. He saw easy buy them. That's right. Forgot about that.
Yeah, he should have been able by 88 to afford those. Yeah. But we know Jerry was mismanaging his money, allegedly. He's eating fat burger and they eating steak and lodgers. Yeah, I got it.
Yeah, man. You remember that? But yeah, so it was great. And for, you know, his birthday was June 15th. Yeah, right before that.
Hooked him up with the Levi threes then. And so he got the world's best dad threes. And so he loved it life right now.
So I want to thank my man TJ because they come with a little trophy in it. Yes, and on the back, it says, Thank you for making me believe I could fly. Ah, ah, ah. My boy. Speaking of which, I got some Amamanier Jordan 3's hair.
I've never known how to say that. You know, Amamanye? Yeah. Yeah, man. These are dope.
Bless you. But. We got Night of Champions coming up this weekend, this Saturday, man. And we got a special guest as well to help promote. And we want to talk to her because she had something to happen to her that went a little viral.
She hasn't spoken publicly about it.
So, why not have your first words about it? You know, we're your boys. We're your boys, you know? You know? Knock your top off a little bit, bro.
Peel this motherfucker cat back boo. Jade Cargill. Jade Cargill will be joining us on the No Contest Wrestling podcast.
Now, fans of the Rich Eisen Show. We'll know that this might not be our first time interviewing her, but it is the first time on no contest. And that's the only time that matters. Yeah, you know, three weeks ago or so, you were hosting, guest hosting the Rich Eisen show. We had her zoom in, and that was dope.
We got chopped up with her a little bit, but now we get her at the end. We need some detail. Yeah. We need some detail on certain things and moments. And we need to know what happened.
Whatever I have to do.
So let's get to it. It's a way of avoiding it. Let's get to it. Hey, let's get to it. TJ, they said that fate whispered into the warrior's ear.
You are weak, you cannot withstand the storm. And that the warrior whispered back to fate. I am the storm. And joining us on the No Contest Wrestling Podcast, officially for the first time, the Omega level threat herself, Jade Cargill. Welcome to NCW.
Thank you for having me. I love that Omega level. Let's go. Little X-Men reference for the. Put it on a t-shirt.
I know, right? We need to make some money. Why not?
Now, you know, there's a lot of. Athletes and historical figures, Maya Angelou, Martin Luther King, LeBron James, Mark Twain, they all have a quote. That kind of ends with, I am the storm. What does being the storm mean to you? Everything.
I say this all the time. I feel like. I control my elements. I get people to stand up. I get people to sit down.
I tell you what to say. I tell you how to act. That's my role.
So I feel like I am the storm. And I promise you, everywhere I go. The element of the weather changes. Like right now, it's about to start raining. And I really think wherever I go, I change the weather.
So, and that's something I really believe in. That's my superpower. Absolutely.
Now we know The um you know the tides are looking a little familiar with your opponent. That's coming up.
Now, you guys got some history. I thought y'all put on some bangers when y'all, you know, we're going at it. And, you know, now we get to kind of go back into your bag a little bit with strategy against Tiffany Stratton. What's going into your head as you get ready for Saturday? Um You know, we've had what, this is our fifth match, fourth, fifth match that we're going into right now.
I think we know each other very, very, very well. I think you guys can expect a lot from that match, being that she's so athletic and acrobatic, and I'm a powerhouse and athletic at the same time. I love working with Tiffany because we can do things that a lot of people can't do. And that's why I like working with women who can do all this crazy acrobatic things and they're athletic because we can put on a show. But going into this match, I mean, I'm doing it.
I'm looking at it the same like I always have done. I'm gonna go out there, do my job. Take that title because I never looked at the US title as something that I wanted. It's just something that's. That she has, and she didn't mind her business.
She's in my way, and I need to make a point. This will be her grabbing this is her way onto Grand Slam champion, Jade Cargill. It's a close. You got to collect all those types of stuff. Yeah, man.
John Cena just snuck and got his right before he left.
So you got to make sure you establish that. All right.
So, you know what, Jay, let's, you know, I think, you know, you came on the Rich Eisen show when Shay was hosting, which was big for us. You know, we got to chop it up a little bit.
So I feel like we're friends now.
So I feel like we can talk about. Anything at this point. Oh, gosh. I feel like I know where this is going. Go ahead.
Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. I just know. Be the first.
Be the first. Be the first. We black people. I know you guys understand. If not us, then who?
Let's talk about what I would prefer. Go ahead. Let's go viral. Fatal four-way. Yeah, it was a match.
Great match going on. You find yourself. It's you, Charlotte, Lyra.
So Aruka, find yourself sitting on the turnbuckle. You and Charger are having a little go, bang, bang, bang, and all of a sudden... Uh can I just say it? Yeah, go ahead. My wig came off.
The wig came off. But the crazy thing, like, my wig, people are, people want to sit there and talk about it's the glue or whatever, whatever. No, my wig was sewn on. I sewn my wig. That's how hard my wig was.
Oh, wow, that's a hard hit. That's how hard my, like my hair, like pieces of my hair came out too. But you know, it's not a secret. I say all the time I wear a wig. Like, what?
What woman of my color do we know? Like, let's be real, let's not be stupid. Like, people can be very slow and very stupid, but. We all know it's clickbait. People just ride on the train, try to trend, and try to jump on the hate train, and it is what it is because people always just, you know, like.
My wrestling, especially this year. I've been doing a very, very good job.
So it's like, what else can we talk about? What else can we say? You can't say I'm ugly. You can't say, like, what else can we say? We're improving.
So, what's what else?
So, you know, this was just a time for people to try to jump on a bandwagon and make a point. or whatever you want to call it, when I always say this a wig. I talk about it all the time. It's one of my biggest fears, and it happened. And more than anything, I'm alive.
More than anything now, I am shocked I finished that match. I'm not gonna lie. Come on, now. Come on, though. I was, I don't know if you know, I was starting to roll out.
Yeah. I was starting to roll out. And that's why Charlotte got one over on me because I was worried about that wig that entire time. But. If it wasn't for that, I would have definitely took that match home.
But listen, I mean, a lot of things was going through my mind. And when it happened, I screamed out Charlotte's soul. I was like, Charlotte. I'm so mad. I was so angry.
I was so angry. And I was just like, I can't. Stop right now. I can't stop. Like, I can't stop right now, you know?
And I persevered and I kept on going. And I was like, all right, well, y'all got the best of me this time. And I got to keep going. But my wig was sold on. My wig was glued on everything you could think of.
It was just the fact that it was like, Literally pulled off. It was literally pulled off. My hair came out as well with it. And I rocked, actually, my hair grew down here. like way below my shoulders and I cut it just to make a point like People don't understand.
And what's funny about it all is thankfully my ball cap came off as well, because imagine if. My bald cap was still on my head. People would have really thought I was bald. Like, that's the crazy thing about it.
So, but it's just ignorance. And I think this is a great opportunity to teach people about the culture and let people know because everybody, every single woman, maybe like three women or four. wears extensions, wears a wig. There's several of us that wear wigs. People are just ignorant and stupid, and they just want to jump on the bandwagon.
But hey, you know what? That lets me know: good or bad, I always trend. I always trend. People always try to find a reason to slam dunk and. Ah.
What else can you do when you're J Cargill? You know, it's funny, the amount of people online, first of all, that were like, I didn't realize it was a wig. Like, what? Like, she changed length all the time, right?
So, that's the thing. But, you know, let's talk about you get hit with the superplex, right? And then I, oh my god, I see Daphne, ref Daphne ran over to you, and you guys, and I, of all people, you knew she knew what you were going. I saw you guys had a little bit of a little bit of a conversation. What did she say to you, or what did you say to her?
I don't even recall. I was just trying to freaking secure my wig. That's all I was trying to do. Because when I was at the top and it happened, in my mind, I'm like, how can I get down? How can I like avoid this?
And if you think about it, and if everybody, like, you know, wrestling, there's no way I could get down. I have only way I can go down. And I can't have one hand exactly. And I can't have one hand on my head, you know, and I couldn't do that. I can land on someone, someone can land on me.
I can land incorrectly.
So I had to give them my arms.
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And she was just like, it's on, it's on, it's on, it's on. And I literally, you could see me in my mind because I was in my mind, like, I was dropping all kinds of curse words. Yeah. But. In my mind, I was like, I was starting to roll a little bit.
You can see me like starting to roll because I was about to get out of there. I was definitely about to get out there, but I was just like, you know, I'm a team player. We got to keep this thing rolling. Mishaps happen, and I'm going to show them how you persevere at all. Right.
Yeah, that is the perseverance because Lord knows if Daphne would have come up to me, I'd have been. Oh my God. Throw up the X, throw up the X. I'm out this one. Hand me a shirt, something.
I always say, listen, if my wig ever came off, you could just roll me up. I don't even care. Like, call it a day. There were a lot of near falls after their work. I know.
I couldn't leave. I couldn't leave. So I timed it.
Okay. The whole thing only lasted two minutes and 34 seconds. Because I had last night, I was like, let's see how long.
So it was super quick. But for you, I'm sure it must have seemed like an hour that that was out there. It felt like forever. I was fuming. I didn't, I was like, just flustered.
I was just so flustered. I was just thinking more so for the match and more so for these women who put on and. But it felt like forever I was out there. I don't think y'all understand. That was my most embarrassing point.
But guess what? I'm still alive. I'm still beautiful. Looking at you right now. And I, hey, hey, hey, with short hair or long hair, I'm still the bomb.
So it's all good. It is all good. This is facts.
So here's a thought that I had. Was there any point did you think of just like... ripping it off and throwing it. Oh no. Cool.
What am I doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want to talk about people? Oh my gosh, and they were old braids too. They were old braids too.
You were like, so the crazy thing, though, is like, if they were fresh braids, it would, oh my gosh, it would have looked like my top was back for real.
So it's just like. Everything just happens for a reason, man. Like, it all happens for a reason, but there's no way. And I remember Jay coming up to me, Jay Uso, and just being like, man, you should have taken that thing off of Swerve. I'm like, I understand y'all men think that's how it goes.
It will like, and then the thing about it was, I still had thread back here.
So I couldn't rip it off even if I wanted to, because I had thread, but. Yo, I would have looked crazy. Crazy. I would have looked somebody.
Somebody said I should have beat somebody with it. I was like, but I don't want to be a stereotype, y'all. I don't want to do all that. Step us back. But listen, as long as I didn't make the shade room, we were okay.
Okay. And I don't want it to after this, so don't even try. You know, the funny thing is, well, not even funny, you holding your head like that, right? If people didn't know, it looked like you were selling like a blow to the head for a minute, yeah, and you stayed in. It seemed like you hit all the spots, you were in a perfect position for the soul snatcher.
It was like everything was working kind of against you, but you were still being where you needed to be and doing what you needed to do.
So, props, respect, respect. I was on Twitter and I said, Will y'all stop this match for Jade already? In the comments, you see, like, yeah, she concussed. What's going on with her ass? It was a lot, it was a lot, but it's just like the ignorance.
But you know what? I'm gonna take that moment, I'm gonna do something really big with it because the ignorance in wrestling is so loud. Yeah, it's so loud because so many women have lost extension, so many women have had all kinds of malfunctions with their wardrobe, and for some reason, they called it a botch when my hair is a part of my character. Like, what do we, what, what do we? What are we calling botches now?
I think people are getting so loose with the word now. I think you need to be a gatekeeper. They get keywords from wrestling documentaries and feel like an expert afterwards. Because I know from. I know for a fact I've seen Charlotte's hair come out.
At least three times that I could think of off the top of the dome years ago.
So, yeah, it definitely happens. It happens, you know, it happens. But, you know, Jade, it's like we talked about when you came on the Eisen show. It's just like there, there definitely seems to be a jealousy when it comes to all things Jade Cargo. It makes sense because she's, and I don't mean this in a bad way.
She's not relatable to normal people, man. The normal person can't relate to Jade Cargill. You had the dopest quote when you were on the Rich Eisen show. You know, Muhammad Ali is: your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see, float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. When she was on here, she said, people hate what they can't be.
Exactly. That's a bar. Exactly. Exactly. It's so weird because when I actually open up and I tell people, hey, this is my fear, they use it against you.
So it's like, why would I sit up here and tell you guys or try to get personal and tell you all, tell you all, like, how I feel and what I go through for you all to turn it around and try to stab me in the back when I'm being very vulnerable and telling you all, hey, this is one of my greatest fears that I have. But you learn from it, and this is what makes super villains who they are.
So I love that for me. People are going to hate regardless, and it's because I'm not relatable, but I don't care to be relatable. But at the end of the day, I put on my jeans just like everybody else. But for some reason, people just try to find reasons to hate Jade. And maybe it's because I'm what, five years in the game.
And how many titles have I won? Maybe it's because my name rings bells more than people who have been in this game more than 10 plus years. I can't help that. I'm just blessed. Talk to them.
I can't help it. And, you know, there's nothing I can do. People try to hate, like, You want to create a legacy for your kids, you know, and do something.
So, why would I put something down that's been given to me and I'm running with it? Like, get out of here. People are sick. It's the IWC, the I wine constantly, as well. Yeah, man.
And those aren't real people. I got two things against me.
So, there's that. Jay, those ain't real people, though. We all know that, right? They ain't real people.
Now, it's spots.
Now, accidents do happen. You know, you prevail through that one. But another one that I, as a fan, was like, oh, no. Oh gosh, what was it? Ash, yeah, we didn't get a chance to talk about it.
You can still see it when I make you can, but the night it happened, I was. I remember, I think I texted you, bro, I ain't never seen so much face. Listen, I've been wanting to believe for a while. I've been asking for blood for a while, and uh, I guess God said, Here you go, Face said, Here you go, this is what you want, but the crew, the moment was so surreal because. Those stairs were supposed to move.
Oh.
So they were supposed to move when I hit it. And that's why. It happened the way it happened anyway. I didn't know it was so bad because I remember in Japan, Dakota hit me, and I was bust open a little bit on my forehead, and I was bleeding out a lot. And I actually thought it was her because it was on her, and it was me.
But so when I hit it and I seen a little blood, I was like, oh, okay, because your head bleeds more than normal.
So I'm like, okay, all right. But I mean like I look down and you could look at the video. And a whole stream of blood just poured into my hand. Yeah. And I was like, oh, okay.
That's our blood. But all I was thinking was like, dang, because I have a white wig.
So I was like, oh man, my girl's 40th birthday is tomorrow. I'm supposed to be going to turf.
So I'm like, dang, I guess I got to figure out how I'm going to clean this out of my head. But then I got up and. Da. was like you are bleeding yeah and i'm like okay well it's probably not that bad like it's fine And then in unison, the entire arena was like, it just gasped. Because after what I did tonight, I was going to get on the analysis table and just like beat my chest like King Kong and talk a lot of smack.
But then in Unison, the Arena did that. I was like.
Okay. And then all the women in the front row turned around in disgust.
So I was just like, okay, this must be really bad because I can't see it. Everybody is seeing it. I can't see it. And then Dav came home and was like, I'm about to throw up the eggs. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm like, I'm good. I got one more thing to do. We good. We good. We could.
We could. And we just kept going. I didn't know how bad it was, like, because they threw a towel over me on the side, I was more upset. With other things. And then we got to the back, and Triple H said, yeah, we're going to have to see a plastic surgery.
And I was like, whoa, for you to say that, for you to say that must be bad because he's seen so much, right? And then I looked to the mirror and KO was there. He's like, oh, dang, let me get this picture. And I looked in the mirror and I just like had my hand over my mouth like, oh my gosh. This is really happening.
But in my mind, and everybody's like, how are you so calm? Because I was calm. Yeah. And I was like. You know, I'm married.
Like, it's all good. He better not leave me over some scar on my face. Like, it's all good. That's all I was thinking. Like, and about the fact that now I'm probably gonna miss my girl's 40th birthday that we planned over a year for.
That's it. That was it. It was more so like, and it just felt like something heavy on my head. I have a high pain tolerance.
So it wasn't terrible, but all night, because the plastic surgeon wasn't in that night. I was just bleeding out. Oh, all night long.
So it was, I would wake up like in an hour, and blood was just poured all on my face. Um, but it worked out. I mean, the past surgeon I went to did a phenomenal job. You can barely see it. And if anything, it's a conversational piece at airports and stuff.
Not now, but especially when I had to put strips over it, people will always ask what's wrong. And I'm like, oh, well, you know, I hit some stairs and then they figured out I was a wrestler and they wouldn't believe I'm a wrestler. Like most people, when they meet me, they're like, there's no way you wrestle and you messed up your face. I'm like, yeah, it's cool, right? But I love my little battle wound.
TJ, can you imagine being? Her husband walking through the airport, and I got to ask her what's wrong with what's wrong with your face. I don't think okay. Listen, listen, you should see us going anywhere. I have so many marks on my arms and bruises.
People probably think it's like a whole nother world at home. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, I'm a wrestler. And then they put two and two together. But so many people look at me when I have all these bruises on me, like, what did you do to her? Yeah, blink twice.
Yes, exactly. I remember after the cut happened, I think they went to commercial. And if I'm not mistaken, you just rolled right up into the camera and you kind of screamed. And that's like, and that's when I could see. I remember pausing it and going, oh, shoot.
Like, that is bad. It was like, you know, when the wind hit it, it was hanging off. It was hanging. My brow was like crooked, y'all. Like, the doctor had to go.
It was three layers deep. I don't know how many stitches I had to get. Everybody asked that. I don't know, but it was three layers deep. And they had to cut because it was so crooked.
I want y'all to know I'm standing out here getting wet for y'all. Oh, man. It's all good. They had to, it was so crooked, they had to cut my skin off. to make it straight.
So A whole part of my brow is off from that whole incident, but they had to quickly, because I wanted to make, you know, I asked for some blood. Let's get some blood when I've seen it. Again, I didn't know how bad it was, but from what I was told, was Triple H backstage was like, get it off her, get the camera off her. Yeah, because you so bad. You definitely got up in the camera and then let all the yell right before commercial break.
I'm like, if I'm, let's make this money. Let's do this. Get my stone cold moment. Let's do this. And it's kind of cool.
That's what I try to do. It's kind of cool the way you accentuate it now with just like the little bit of paint. that goes there just to remind people that it is there. I love the way you kind of flipped it and now use that as part of the character. Yeah, we got to get a stone, a black and white Jay Cargill T of that screen, right?
Even think about that. Dude, listen, it's my thing now. You know, I think I look sexier than before with it.
So it all works out.
Now Jade, you mentioned your husband. Can we talk about him a little bit? Cincinnati Reds legend Brandon Phillips. You know, we got to meet BP not this past WrestleMania, but the WrestleMania before. And we got to meet him, and you'll know this story.
He tells us, he comes outside to the park, and we're like, oh, Brandon Phillips, BP, what's up? And he goes, Yeah, I just was stuck in an elevator for an hour. Do you remember? Yeah, do you remember what? Because you weren't with him.
So I can't, and he was with your daughter.
So I can imagine what you felt when. You heard this story. Did he call you from the elevator and tell you that they were trapped?
Well, he texts me because I had a show that day.
So he knows when I'm like on show mode, like, don't call me unless there's an emergency. I'm going to call you. Tell you, I love you. Tell me, good luck, kiss the babies. Like he knows that.
So he handled it very well. But it wasn't just him, it was my entire party.
So it was all my girlfriends, their kids. Yeah, they were all trapped up. But it all worked out because they got some good, uh, a good deal with the hotel at the end of the day.
So it worked out, but he was, um, He was fine. He gets a little claustrophobic when he's in settings with a lot of people in the elevator. But apparently, it took them a while to get them all and get them out. Yeah, he said it was like more than an hour. Yeah, well, my mama don't, my mama don't do well in elevators.
So I can imagine, right? And it was so many of them. It was like a party of 10 in there. It was kids and everything. You know, kids, they get really unsettled.
Of course. I can just imagine what they were getting through. No doubt. Yeah, so we know you got, you know, you're you're in the rainforest, so we got two more for you, and we'll wrap things up. But we gotta ask about Nida Champions.
Mm-hmm. Going into going into this match against Tiffany. Are we, we know it's going to be fireworks nonetheless, but let the people who don't know know what they can expect from this match between you two, who already have the history with one another. Just some athleticism. I think that we're a great pair.
People say that. You know, we kind of like. All at odds when it comes to wrestling, but I think that makes the best matches. We have banger matches, we have banger spots. But as we know, Tiffany should have never came into my business.
She should have minded her own business. I was going after Charlotte and Alexa, and then she wants to come in and just, cause she got nothing better else to do with that U.S. title. But I mean, why not take it off her hands? That's not something I was going for initially.
I'm trying to still get my title from Rhea. But now I have to make a point. And let's go for the grand slam, baby. A little pissed off, a little side quest. Holding gold is holding gold, Jake.
You know, so exactly, exactly. But, you know, why not go for that one whenever Ria comes back, whenever, whatever, whenever she comes back, I'll go after that one as well because gold looks good on me better than anybody else in that locker room. Or, Jade, you just elevate that title to depths in places that depths is low. I mean, heights, heights that it's never been.
So, you can do it. They look so good on me at so many different levels to it. All right, now we see drops hitting the camera.
So, we're going to get you inside after this one question. All right, all right, all right. We didn't get to ask you this on the Rich Isaac show, so we got to ask you here on NCW. We asked everybody their first time on. You're in a bar having a good time, or on a beach, having a good time with your girlfriends, or at the restaurant, or at the restaurant, eating dinner, you know, and there are 50 ladies in that place.
That don't like Jade Carr gifts. Haters. They hate storms, if you will. And so I need you to pick a team of you. and four other WWE superstars to make sure The storm continues on.
Does it matter if they're a heel or a face? Do we have any era, any, whoever you want? It don't matter. You pick, yeah, face, heel.
Okay, any era. Uh Jacqueline. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah.
China, of course. Of course. Yes, of course. Who else? Who else?
Who else? I probably would pick Bianca. I was waiting. I was waiting. Bianca, she's body-body.
I know she'll definitely back it up. And one more. And the fourth person has to be a woman, huh? Um. You know who talks a lot of smack, but when I would watch her backed it up, Sasha Banks.
Okay. That's my goat, right? Mercedes mode. Yeah. Oh, that's what I was talking about, Jade.
You, Miss Jackie, China, Bianca, and Mercedes. Yes, sir. All right.
I love that. I like that.
So, Jade, you know, we like to tell everybody before they go that once they come on, they're now family, right?
So, you are NCW family, which means whenever you're in town, you come in. We let you know where the spare key is. You come in, help yourself to whatever's in the fridge. I know it's got to be healthy, you know, for you to eat it. I eat what I want sometimes, so we're okay.
Not all the time, not all the time. All right.
So, what we do, though, Jade, is in the garage, we have a DeLorean. You remember Back to the Future? We got a DeLorean that you can go back in time.
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I have to pick women. Do I have to pick women? You can pick whoever you want. I ain't going to tell you nothing, Jay. I don't want to get slapped.
To be honest, because he's one of my idols, and I have yet to meet him yet, just to like BS. Probably stone cold. Oh, yeah. And that's just me. I never met him, but he's one of the people that I'm like.
Dying to meet. And that's a good WrestleMania payday, too, Jay. What are you telling? Who are you telling? What?
And then you said one more. Two more. You against China. You against Jackie. You against Stone Cold.
Two more. Y'all, I'm trying to think. This is hard. Y'all hit me up with like these Mount Rushmore questions. Um Booker T Yeah.
And that shows he's he's one of my idols as well. Um Who else?
Now it has to be a woman. You know, I wouldn't mind having a match with Trish. Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah, stratisfaction.
Well, there you go.
So what's the trish, chyna, miss jackie, stone cold, and booker tea. Yeah, okay. WrestleMania. I know, like, you know, Stone Cold and fucking T is crazy, but just being in the ring with them would just like highlight a moment for me, okay? That's what's up.
We ain't gonna argue with you either. No fear. No fear. No, no, no fear. I can't.
What? Heck no. We appreciate you. You know, withstanding the elements. We want to get you out the ring.
Yeah, man. Anytime you want to come back, you know, we love to take care of you. Ladies and gentlemen, the great Jade Cargin. Yes, indeed. Good luck.
Thank you. I'm going to need you guys to get a t-shirt or something. I need y'all to represent, have a t-shirt. Don't tell us that. We love some merch.
Okay. Absolutely.
Appreciate you, Jay. Good luck. All right.
Thank you. Yes, indeed. Another solid one for the book. Uh-huh. Man, like, I know you're a bad guy.
She's too likable. Yeah, you know, and we touched on this briefly, man. And let's just keep it G-Real. Can we keep it G-Real? Oh, the forced hatred that this woman gets, it goes beyond her just being a heel.
You know, and so it's just like. The IWC, like it's not real people, it's not a real place. It's frustrating sometimes because we know where some of this hatred is coming from, right? And it's not from a good place, it's not from a deserved place. It's just some people are just so miserable with their lives that they want to hate on a sister looking like that because, quite frankly, people, real people don't look like that.
They ain't built like that. They can't do the things she does, you know, like legendary baseball player husband, you know, like woman who's built like that, who has come this far in the wrestling business in such a short amount of time. It's like they give grace. There's other female wrestlers that they give so much grace to that. Oh, well, she's just starting, and you know, she's, you know, Jay was never afforded that grace, right?
But she. Is not letting that hold her back, obviously. Her confidence is on another level, and uh, she's getting better, getting better and better.
So, yeah, you can keep they can keep hating all you want because she ain't stopping, yeah. You know what I mean? And it's almost like some of y'all. Are just playing characters at this point, right? Like, some of y'all, like, you gotta be a hater because, like, that's it's either in your handle and your display name, or something.
You just gotta be a hater. And you know, kick rocks, bro. You always got our support, Jade. Always welcome here. And good luck at Night of Champions, but we got a there's a lot happening at Night of Champions.
Speaking of, you know, let's take a look at the card this Saturday, June 27th, 1 p.m. We have Night of Champions and uh Look at this triple threat match. We got Hiro Shay. We got Gunther. Sami Zayn.
And the American Nightmare, Cody Rhodes are going to be battling for that undisputed WWE Heavyweight Championship. Yeah. Now, TJ. You know, I get a little crazy. You know, I'm a little wild.
You know, this is our chemistry. You know, sometimes you got to reel me back. But but I'll be damned if I don't If I don't feel my hair sticking up like This might be the perfect opportunity to give Sammy that bump. But give Sammy that belt. You know how that crowd gets for him.
They do. You know how that crowd gets for him. Triple threat. Anything can happen. The stakes can go down.
Like on SmackDown, where you know, Gunther wanted Sammy to be the referee. Yeah. Oh, my God. That was crazy. Then he kind of disrespected Sammy.
So Sammy hit him with the quick count.
So also, Cody defended his title twice, technically. Technically, yeah. You know what I mean? So people can't ever complain about Cody not showing up and never remaining good. Gunther is 0-4 against Cody.
Yeah, so let's think about this, right? You have Gunther. Retires Goldberg. Retires John Cena. Retires AJ Styles.
You can't. Take all of that, right? All of that I know Acclaim. Yeah. And just flush it down the toilet.
No. You've got to build on this. You can't just let this man retire these legends and not do anything with it. Therefore, you're saying, Sammy, I'm like, this might be the perfect time to put the belt. And no disrespect to Cody, we're Cody's fans, but.
Gunther, again, let me repeat this to you. Retired Bill Goldberg, retired John Cena, retired Alan Jones Styles. You cannot just make him a regular dude. Is it really for Allen Jones? I believe that is.
Damn. Yeah. You can't make him a regular dude, though, dog. You can't just have him losing matches because all of that equity that he built up is going to be for not.
So it might be time. You're saying Sammy. Yeah. I'm saying You got to do something with Gunther, man. Or why else was he chosen for those side quests?
Could it possibly be that? They was all just old? They were just older. They were over the hill. You're on your way out the door.
Of course, Compton's gonna beat you.
Now, when you got.
Somebody like Cody at the top of his game, it's real hard to beat. He's not in his whatever, it's his 50s. It's really difficult, isn't it?
So now. It's just like Sammy is one of those guys. That he keeps scratching at the door, not even knocking, just a scratch. And we've seen how that Saudi crowd gets for him. And if there was ever a time, it would have to be some sort of triple threat.
This is the first one in a long time that kind of feels like it makes sense like a triple threat to happen because he's kept scratching at that door. And now he's kind of weaseled his way into a feud. It might be one of those, like, uh, he says he's the afterthought. There's no way Sammy's leaving with this. He's the last good guy.
Yeah, there's no way Sammy's leaving with this. But because you think that that's when they pull the rug out from under you, it's going to be interesting to see. There's three ways. Remember that Gunther lost his Intercontinental Championship to Sammy. Sami Zayn, right?
Come on now.
So. You know, you got the formula. Um Don't know how I feel, but I kind of, if I have to make a prediction, I think that title might be changing hands on Saturday. Who knows? Yeah, I mean, oh man, you know, that's my boy.
You know, Nepple Baby's up by a billion. All right.
But man, I'm just thinking if there was any a time that somebody was like, Yeah, Generico need that. All right, so next up, we have the finals of the King and the Queen of the Ring tournament. Girl. Oh, dun dun. Oh, dun dun.
Oh, Bafemi. Jay, you, my boy. J Uso. For the King of the Ring this Saturday. What are you thinking?
Listen. If If and that if is a big one. Because I believe they announced that the finals for the men and the women's will air free on ESPN. First hour is free on ESPN. They're going up first.
Okay. Now, y'all, you know what happens in the first hour, though. Yeah, you know who shows up always in the first hour. Yeah. If I hear that guitar riff, bro, I might not even really hear it.
He might just come out, you know, before. But I'm saying. Jay Uso. Jey Usa gonna win that. You know, it's funny.
We speak about the IWC. Everyone on there, Jey Uso sucks, De Uso this. Yeah. Watch him raw. On Monday.
London. crowd. I think he was Didn't run it back twice. It's like he almost ran it three times, and Oba wasn't feeling it. But it's crazy how people get online and say all this stuff about these wrestlers, like Jay isn't this, that, and the third, and yet listen to the crowd.
Right. Are these people in the crowd not on the internet? I guess they're not. IWC. We don't believe you.
You need more people. Come on, bro. It is. It's no way Olba wins and then has a title match at SummerSlam when we know that's got to be the. Graveyard of Brock Lesnar, Minneapolis.
We summer slam. We think we don't know nothing. We thought the graveyard was in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Well, we're sitting there watching him take off his box and his boots.
So everyone's saying, Oh, this is going to be. I don't know. I don't know if this is going to be Brock's last time. That Vegas, that was a real moment, and it really was his graveyard. But if it's anything that Deadpool and Wolverine has taught us, you can be brought back to life if it's a big pile of cash coming out.
And we know there's nothing but money, money, money floating around. But you know what? It It wouldn't make sense. for Brock to come. Disrupt this match, but man.
It would make sense for him to come and disrupt this match. Yeah. But then you have Jay against Cody or Gunther or Gunther or Sammy? Or Sammy? There ain't no way.
Oh, see, now I'm just now going to talk myself. That's what I was leaning. Everything I thought we do. That's what I was leaning to. Because SummerSlam main event is not going to be Jay against Sami Zayn.
It's not going to be Jay against Gunther again. But then, like, it's got to be Raheem against Jay. It has to be, right? It has to be. Or, right?
It's not. What? It's not. And Oba does this. We don't know nothing.
We don't know shit. Ober smashes somebody night one. Right. He smashes somebody else night two and he wins a belt. Yeah.
Ooh. Think about that. That could happen. That could happen. That could happen.
So, who really knows? But. He would have to go up against. My Your hour tribal chief.
Well They're gonna jump his ass. The numbers are not on nobody. They're gonna jump his ass.
So, this is gonna be interesting to see, man. We thought we had a We thought we came to a conclusion about the men's championship, right? The undisputed title. And then we got to this king of the ring, and we realized: oh, wait a minute. That can't happen if this happens.
So, look, it's actually what I kind of dig, right? I hate when things get ruined. I hate when things get spoiled. We don't know what's going to happen. Right now, me and you look like that, that, that, uh, Charlie, Charlie Gay, like, it's always sunny.
Like, but then this could happen.
So, I honestly, I honestly don't know a man, and that's why I'm excited to watch this because there are so many ways that they could go with this. Just don't mess it up. That's all I'm saying. All right, what do we have now? We got, of course, we got the women's now, the queen.
Of the ring, ladies first, Olivia Morgan against EO, yeah, Sky and uh Gianna Daddio. Liv, the women's world champion going up against EO Sky. For the right to go for the women's undisputed.
So We all thought that this was going to be a judgment day type thing, right? Where we might see Raquel and Liv go at it. They did not give that to us. They. Or make and live look like Everything she claims to be, the greatest women's champion of all time.
She took out Charlotte Flair, you know. Jay Cargill be fab in the chin. They jumped Carlotte. Charlotte messed up her knee. Liv took advantage, took Charlotte out on Friday.
So now, EO, Liv. How do you see this playing out? It's a weird spot because. I know what I said before: of like, this is a perfect time for Stephanie to come in and, you know, get her revenge, handle her business, but then. If EO wins Queen of the Ring.
She's not picking Rhea. No, she's going to pick Liv. Because I just beat you. She's a rematch that's of the match we just watched. Yeah.
And like How we selling that? We just watched the match.
Now we're about to watch it again, SummerSlam. I mean, it can be done. It still makes sense. They're going to do no matter what we say, everything can be done. That's what we want.
But, like, it's just weird that, like, Oh, it's going to be a rematch of what we just watched? Dope. That doesn't feel like what if they put on a banger and they're very capable dog of putting there's also a chance that you know what if Stephanie were added to some triple threat that's at least a different match through that, but like yeah, it's it's it's puzzling, something's gotta happen. You know, in my mind, I'm kind of thinking one of the Judgment Day hard R's might do something. The lowercase R?
No, the hard R's. I know, they both hard R's, but one is uppercase R's, one's for sure lowercase. One of them. Maybe gets involved either directly or by accident. Costs live the match.
You know, there's ways they could go with this. And I kind of, I'm kind of thinking that that's going to be the way this happens.
Somehow, Rock Hill or Roxanne are going to get involved, and one way or the other, costs live the match because. Giving Liv Morgan this win, and we're Liv Morgan fans, you're now putting her on maybe Mount Rushmore. Is that what they want to do? Maybe that's it. Maybe that's the plan to put Liv, you know, as As Presu Ed said, your idol, the highest idol, Numero Uno.
You know, or, you know, we have EO Sky, possibly the best women's wrestler on Earth. On the planet, that's Earth with an F. Earth, you know.
So, yeah, this is going to be interesting because there are a lot of ways, again, that this could go. Yeah. Um, Don't really have any idea, dog. Don't really have any idea how it's going to happen. But again, that's why we watch.
And that's why y'all come to us because we don't have any idea. Like we entertain it and we cause it like we see. But I'm going to, I'm going to, if I have to make a prediction, I'm going to make that prediction that one of the Judgment Day ladies somehow gets involved in this and costs costs live this match. Like I said, whether on purpose or by accident. Easy, my little racial slurs.
Was coming so speaking of championships. We got another title match. Trick Willie. Whooped that trick. Against Ricky Saints for the United States Championship.
Yes. You know, um. Ricky I like Ricky. Yeah. Ricky's money.
Ricky's nice on the mic. He's good in the ring. Ricky has a pinfall victory over Oba Femi, of all people. Yeah. Okay.
So that means Ricky. He had four DDTs, two of them which were on the outside of the rank.
So he had to unload the barrel. Yeah. You know, he had to, every clip was just like spent. But he's one of the few people that can say they got a dub over Oba. Yeah.
You know? So. But Trick Willie is just, he's right now. He's at the height, man. And, you know, you got kids in the crowd wearing furs.
Yeah. You know, internationally, they're all singing whoop that trick. Trick Willie is having his moment right now. And unfortunately for Ricky, I don't see that change. And I think Trick.
comes out of this and still. Is whatever announcer they have will be announcing, I think. I think the same. I want to point out the fact. Yeah.
That crowd was still chanting mellow. To still chat Mellow after Ricky and Mellow's match where Ricky went over. They're still chanting mellow. I think. If anybody Would be able to take that title off a trick.
It would be Mellow? It would be Mellow. Because remember, all the work that Ilya and Mellow put into that title. And then, for you know, the match at Mania to be the way that it was, and Trick to get the U.S. title, it would only be right.
And also, who knows better, the Mellow Trick Mellow gang. And if you don't know, you need to go back and research that story writes itself right there. Yeah, so I think you're right. If anyone takes the belt off of Trick, it might be Mellow. But for right now, I expect a great match.
Yeah, but I think Trick holds on to the United States. Absolutely, especially when they got Yachty out there with the Cannes still. The numbers game is still a real thing. But yeah, Trick Williams. And up next, you got a steel cage.
Boy, you're ready for this to be done. It ain't nothing like a beating a dead horse. Get your ass up. You know, this. This storyline.
It really had so much more going for it until life starts. Luxuries and life, yeah. Kind of took away what could have been a really, really dope. Uh, feud.
Well, even a faction, remember? Yeah, a faction. A faction, and then everyone getting hurt. Yeah, it looks like you know, I'm rereading Bob Backlund's book for probably the fourth time now, and he would say, always back in the early WWF days, like still cage match. That's when you knew it was over.
That's when you knew the feud was done when they put you in a cage. And I think that that's maybe, I almost said probably, but I didn't have to catch myself. I don't know if this is going to be the end, but it's going to be Seth Rollins against Braun Breaker in a still cage. We know there's some animosity there. Those two don't like each other.
So I'm looking for, man. I'm looking for a hard-hitting match. Probably the vision is going to get involved. Do we see the returning Bronson Reid? You know, numbers game still a real thing.
The numbers game is still a thing.
So we'll see. But yeah, Seth Rollins, Braun Beraker, still a cage match, and we'll see what happens to this feud after this. And I feel like it's worth noting that at the time of this recording. Braun Breaker is actually the tag titles are up on Raw. Like he's in a fight right now.
So we don't know whether or not he has lost this title yet at the time of this recording. But I know going in, How I feel about him going against Seth right now. I don't know what Seth Winning does for Braunbreaker, like as a character. I don't know what him taking that defeat does. And Seth is in a weird spot because we know where.
Things were supposed to go. This is supposed to be a main event feud right here. uh with the the big belt uh uh on the line and things like that but injuries and yada yada yada I don't know if they have a spot for Seth. after he wins. Like, if he wins, then it's like.
What do we do with them? If he loses What are we doing? The thing is, you can do anything with Seth Rollins because he's the best wrestlers in the world.
So, Seth is a guy who he's reached that point where a loss doesn't hurt Seth. Exactly. You know what I mean? That's where I'm heading. Seth, losses don't hurt Seth, but you still, he's still a commodity.
He's still a 1A. Type guy. He's still a guy that can headline. One of the greatest of my lifetime. Yeah, he's still a main eventer.
So. It is kind of weird to see him catch a nail, but he's a guy who can, you know, who can survive a nail.
So I think ultimately. I think what they wanna do is they want Seth and Roman at WrestleMania. I think that we have to have that because we don't know how much longer Roman's going to be. You know what I mean? So, at some point, you got to have that.
And so, I don't know if that starts this weekend or if it starts a little later down the road, but I would anticipate that that's what they want for WrestleMania one-on-one.
So, we'll see. And we are oozing with anticipation. Patiently. Patient. Night of Champions.
There it is. There you have it. We all are going to be watching to see where the direction we are headed as a WWE universe. As we head towards SummerSlam. Yeah, man.
And I'm excited. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I'm not looking forward to it. It's going to be early on the West Coast, 10 o'clock. I like that.
I'm going to be in Detroit. You're going to be in Detroit for Big Three. Yeah. Congrats on that. I might as well be on the no-contest wrestling podcast.
I'm telling you what, after what I saw in that, what was the second game, the riot game? Yeah, the second game of the day. Good reason they were called the riots because give me together. We all black cheering. But congrats on that.
I saw you holding it down, doing some work for CBS. You were interviewing your dad. And Dr. Dre Ice Cube and Dr. Dre, and that was pretty dope to see those two sitting next to each other.
Yeah, I was about to ask Dr. Dre how he felt about me doing that for free, but then my dad was next to me, so I just sent it back to him. Like, isn't it weird that I do this for free? Love of the game? Isn't that crazy?
Whatever. Siri, call mom. All right, but yeah. Yeah, man, that's it. That's it, man.
Hope you guys enjoyed the Jake. Jay Cargill interview. You know, we got to get her in studio, get a longer interview with her because both times we've got to sit with her. She's out there in the rain, man. Who else is going to do that for your boys?
Exactly, man. Yeah, on behalf of. Oh, no, wait. I'll forget. TJ.
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