No-Contest Wrestling: John Cena's Heel Turn Was Shocking

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Ladies and gentlemen. It's Wednesday. Welcome back. To the No Contest Wrestling Podcast, I am. The heel that you love to hate.

AKA now, Petty Guerrero. Oh, Shea Jackson Jr. Hey yo, it's me, it's me, it's that T-O-O, J-I-G-G-2 J-G! TJ Jefferson. TJ.

Oshi. It has gone down. It's gone down. You're talking about that, that major hill turn? Are you talking about the fact that you turned hill with this jacket?

I'm talking, oh, bro. Anybody who's a fan of One Piece recognizes an Admiral Jacket when you see one. And today, I am the long arm of the law. I don't know anything about One Piece. I just know you got uh what the rich say uh Emulettes?

Is that what they're called? Emulettes? I don't know. And he, you know, I don't like, I don't appreciate him using such SAT words. It's early.

Rich uses big words on the show. Yeah, dude. I'm Rich Eisen. I went to Michigan. We get it, bro.

God, dude. But yeah, it's a lot to talk about. A lot has happened in the wrestling world. Got turned upside down, dog. Yeah, we've got some heavy returns, some major returns, some great matches to talk about.

And obviously. Uh The Invisible One. has gone dark. It is no contest wrestling, bro. We got to kick it off with the elimination chamber, TJ.

Well, and first of all, we want to introduce a special guest that we have today. John Cena is here with us. Yes, John. Say hello. John, how you doing?

Is he swinging at us? Oh, cool. Is he throwing obscenities? You see, because you can't see him. No.

Okay. Because the joke is you can't see Y'all don't get it. Anyway, go ahead, TJ. Anyway, we got the Royal Rumble chair that we got in Indy. It finally got delivered last week, so we brought that to set.

We're going to have the, you know. Having that here with us, but man, Elimination Chamber was something else, bro. It was everything that we had hoped it would be. And And much, much more. Much more, bro.

It was definitely one of my favorite PLEs in this Triple H era. Mm-hmm. Um It gave me everything I needed. It gave me good matches. It gave me returns.

It gave me quite the double cross. And like WWE likes to do, it took over the internet. It definitely did. Let's just start from the beginning, then, if we will. The women's elimination chamber match.

Yes. It looked to be a spectacular lineup of women. About to uh Go for their shot at headlining, possibly, but definitely getting a women's championship match. At WrestleMania. Yes.

And you know, we had the six participants: we had Bianca Belair, we had Alexa Bliss, we had Liv Morgan, we had Naomi, we had, who am I missing? Oh, Bailey, yes, and then we had our buddy Roxanne Perez. Yeah. The match is about to start. It's about to kick off with Liv, Morgan, and Naomi, about to be the two women to start the match while the other four are in their pods.

And as they're about to lock up, storms are coming. Storms are coming. And here comes Jade. Cargill looking like every fantastic X-Men, Marvel character, badass female from the mind of anyone with a pen that has ever been drawn, that you've ever seen in your life. The woman's poppin'.

Just man, bro. She came out. The woman hasn't had a carb since 2004. No, she doesn't know what a doughnut tastes like. It's madness.

And obviously, I. We all have heard the whispers of Jade coming back. You know, she had been cleared for, you know, physical activities. And so we knew it was coming. Yeah.

But to start. The elimination chamber with that thing threw us all for a loop. You know, anybody who follows me on Twitter knows my immediate reaction was: a storm's coming already. And when she walked to the ring, you can see the look on Liv. Yeah.

Liv had the eyes ready to go. It wasn't me. It wasn't me. And you know, we, everyone was wondering who attacked her. We even came out and just flat out asked Liv.

We all don't know that we.

Well, I did, okay. I don't like to separate. That's fine. It was me because I asked the questions that need to be answered. I said, hey, Liv.

Did you do this? And Liv gave a great answer. And what she said was, You've never heard me do something that I don't brag about. Yeah. And we were there.

I saw it.

So out comes Jade. And I think the majority, but you know, as wrestling fans, I feel like we all knew it was always almost too obvious that it was Liv. Yeah, like, come on.

So the word going around is had to be Naomi or Bianca. But, you know, half the people think they know, and the other half think they know. We don't know what's going on. She steps in the ring, like you said. Liv is like, it wasn't me.

And Jade kind of mouthed the words, I know it wasn't me. It wasn't you. And then she pivoted. Yeah, she pivoted, attacked Naomi. And when I say attack Naomi, It was violent.

Let's not undersell this, right? Yeah. Because I on Twitter, right? I on no on Instagram under I think the WWE's post, I wrote, I left a comment that said, this was almost as shocking as the scene of Hill Turn. Uh Few people agree, and of course, everybody who knows everything about wrestling came out to tell me how stupid I was, and everybody knew this was gonna happen.

But my point being, when have you seen a woman's beatdown? that violent Especially WWE.

Okay, because I remember Mariah May when she Finally, I snapped on Tony Storm. I remember thinking that was as bad because of the blood that was involved. The fact that Mariah had her heel and was literally bashing Tony's head in. And I remember saying, as far as women's violence in America goes, this is. About as violent as I've ever seen.

Yeah, yeah. You're getting pretty close to UFC levels of violence. And Jade brought it. Jade seemed like a woman possessed. Yeah, man.

And so, like, have you, can you remember? Like, I remember when Rhea injured Liv's arm with the chair, put their arm in the chair. Yeah. Liv's reaction sold out to the point it was almost uncomfortable. Yeah.

Her screaming and her in pain. I mean, that's how this felt because Naomi is so well loved, bro. Yeah, and you know, I think. You know, if you had me think about some of the worst things that I seen. With women's wrestling, and as far as the violence, I'm pretty sure back in the day of the attitude era, you know, they used to have those backstage hardcore matches all the time.

And I specifically remember Ivory with iron. And like, that was some of the craziest things that I saw as a child. Bro, this was so. Pent up. This was so well placed for the story.

To have Bianca crying and screaming while she's in her pod just added an element of tension to it. And it really felt like we were watching Bianca, number one, be helpless. Helpless. And then Bianca delivered on putting out that emotion. Shay, and not only just Bianca.

Every woman in that chamber, you look at Bailey, Naomi's her girl. Yeah, Bailey was shook. Alexa Bliss had the thousand-yard stare going on. Liv was already terrified, and poor little Rock Sam was like, Look, I know I ain't got nothing to do with it. Yeah, I'm from NXT.

I ain't got nothing to do. I'm from NXT. I don't know nothing about this. But it was, it was truly, man. You're watching this.

And like I said, it's because it's Naomi. And everybody loves Naomi. And Naomi never has ever suffered something like this before. That was my point. That was shocking to see that level of viciousness and violence go down in that cage.

And, you know, there are people who are still online speculating whether or not it was Naomi, you know, whether Jade's aggressions were misplaced. You know, me personally, when you got Bianca or Naomi, like you said, there's never been any type of flack against them from the crowd. They've always been a team and individuals who pander to the cheers. They've been great babyfaces.

So to see a babyface get attacked the way that she did, they know we need answers. And that's exactly how the WWE has always drawn us in because now we got to know. We got to know where this is going. Obviously, you know, we're getting to the match, but there's no way we couldn't talk about that beginning. While we are saying, welcome back, Jade.

Cargill, it was crazy to see Naomi taken out on a stretcher. And then let's also talk about the fact that once it was all said and done, Liv going to Bianca's pod. Yo, and telling her. This, you did this. This is all your fault.

Your fault, yeah, man. Like I said, that was so evil. That will be something.

Well, Liv was like, I'm getting blamed for this. She saw her life flash in front of her eyes. And then, because if you remember, man, there was something that happened. A few weeks ago.

Well, I guess it was months ago now when Bianca and Jade were still tag team partners and Liv and Raquel were in the ring with them. And Liv Morgan said something that I went back and re-watched. She told Jade. Oh, something to the effect of, well, watch out when Bianca stabs you in the back. And that was the day that Bianca slapped the the dog mess out of her, if you remember.

She was like, What are you going to do? What are you going to do? You're not going to do anything? And Bianca slapped her. But right before that, Liv said, What?

Watch so I feel if you've watched wrestling longer than six months. I think you have to understand and know. People in the comments were saying, we knew this was coming for weeks.

Well, that's the thing, right? If it's so obvious to you that something's going to happen, here's a hint from a longtime wrestling fan. It's not that obvious. I think it's safe to say this is far deeper than just Naomi. I'm even willing to go on the limb and say Naomi may have had zero to do.

With this Jade Cardill attack. This is deep, man. Accusations, Jefferson. I'm just saying. Accusations.

I'm just saying. I feel this is deep, man, and we're going to get just. Cinema out of this because it can't just be Naomi attacked her. Then what?

Okay, now it's over. Nah, man. You know that. This is way deeper. It's definitely not going to just go back to.

You know, Bianca and Jade being cool again. The thing about wrestling, once it hit the social media age and people were able to pick things apart frame by frame, then you have to do things like lead breadcrumbs the wrong way. You have to give false clues. You have to kind of put fans on a wild goose chase. You know, I just don't see It ain't all good right now.

Bianca needs... Uh, questions answered. We as fans need questions answered, and uh, this ain't it by a long shot. We got about what seven weeks till WrestleMania, 44 days, something like that. Yeah, so it's uh.

It's compelling television. I'm in for it, though. Yeah, absolutely.

Now, let's talk about the buckle-up. Yeah, the performance. Put that seatbelt on because I'm here for that ride. Yes, sir.

Now, the match in itself. Love the match. Sensational, man. Loved it. Loved it.

Loved that Alexa Bliss came out last. Crowd gave a huge pop for that. You know, Alexa Bliss, you look great in the ring. I love to see Alexa Bliss versus Roxanne. Yeah, right.

Look at my little portable superstars doing it. Doing it out here. I got to admit, just since she did the pod, I already liked her, but. Since Roxanne has done the pod, yeah, I'm just so I love Roxanne so much. I don't ever want nothing bad to happen to Roxanne when she gets picked up for a move.

I literally said, Don't you hurt? Don't you hurt Roxanne, bro?

So Roxanne's like our little sis here in no call NCW.

So got a cool ass dog, right? Shout out to Wyatt, you know. Roxanne's our girl. I mean, but the same with Bianca. Bianca blessed us with her presence.

That's my dog. You know what I mean? Yeah, man. And I'm going to tell you this: no matter what happens, I ain't never booing Bianca Bell. I'm just going to tell you that right now.

Yeah, like Bianca, if. We ain't got no wood to knock on, but if Bianca turned bad, I'm bad. I ain't. That's right there. Bianca Belair is such a beautiful representation for her people.

She does her job. She's athletically gifted. She's box office. She's everything you want. And yeah, I'm riding with Bianca always.

Bianca would have to do nothing short of going out tuna, going to my mom's crib, and then assaulting my mom. And even then, I might go, Ma, what did you do? What did you say? What did you talk about? More.

Because yo, my mom is nice with these. My mom, she used to back in the day, my mom had like a 12-0 undefeated record in them out to in the streets. She would point that out. My mom was, yeah, you got the record. That's about as bad as my dad recording his triple-double in a pickup game and putting that shit in a song.

Yeah. Shut up. What if You recording stats, cube? Like, bro, we just out here having fun. No, I need two more boards.

Like, what a cycle. Freaking brothers, every way, like MJ. I gotta say, today was a good day. You recording your stats in a pickup game. You're a wild boy.

But another big moment in that match was that whip. Yo. Tell you something. We talked to Bianca when she was a guest, and I asked her, you know, where the idea of the braid came from. She said that was from her husband, Montez Ford.

And her one rule is, and you should know this: if you've ever met any black woman in your life, is don't. Don't touch the hair. A few years ago, Becky Lynch called in. Remember when Bianca cut Becky's hair? Becky called in the next week to the main show, The Rich Eisen Show, and my first statement to her was: Becks, You had to know that you can't talk.

Touch sisters' hair. And that's what happened. Becky had, you know, she had a great comeback, I remember, and she had her reasons, but you know, you touch the hair. Yeah, bro. Don't, don't, do not touch a black woman's hair.

Those, that is in the Bible. All right, them two pages is just stuck together. But yeah, yeah, bro. That's actually Austin 318.

So, but she cracked Live with a shotgun blast. I haven't heard it that loud since probably Sasha Banks. That was pretty big. But Becky got it too, though. Yo, yo, right.

Yeah, Becky got a nice one, but that. That laceration across the abdomen, bro. Those are SAT words, by the way, kids. That, you know, that it was prominent. Yeah.

It was prominent, bro. And, you know, for anybody who doubts, doubts that whip that you hear in the beginning of her entrance music, it's a real thing. Just go to any Liv Morgan Instagram or Twitter posts. She'll show you the scar on her midsection. By the way, shout out to Liv.

She's been getting rocked lately, man. Like, I gave her her. I heard at, like, She's going through it. Shout out to Liv Morgan. Friend of the show.

I gave Liv Morgan her flowers when she was here. I said, when it first started, I was like, another pretty blonde girl, whatever. She grew on me, man. And look at Liv Morgan now. The bruises.

Liv Morgan goes, bro. She goes. She was. I mean, I understand Bianca won the elimination chamber, but Liv Morgan was probably MVP. Mm-hmm.

With all the just The bumps and the just and you know. People Obviously, the IWC, you sickos, you, you know, they saw. The possibility of it being Rhea versus Liv again. And that playing with their emotions like that, Liv is so good at because it keeps the crowd so invested. It keeps the rest of those lunatics on the internet on the edge of their seats.

Really, with their thumbs on the keyboard, ready to go. And she did a great job. She played her role to perfection. Bianca got the victory. You know, I love to see that.

And, you know, there was a moment. After Bianca got out of the ring, went to the top of the ramp where Rhea Ripley came out and kind of stood next to Bianca to let her know what's good. But then EO had a reminder. Oh, it ain't just you. It might be a possibility of me down the road.

Don't just get this photo out without E.O. Skye, but we'll get to that a little later on. But yeah, tremendous. Look, applaud to all six of you women. You put your bodies on the line.

You did your thing. Respect because that is that's a painful, painful. Chamber. That's a painful structure. It's champion.

That's so a match. Yeah, man. Oh, and I love the spot of when Bianca was out the ring and Liv kept pushing her to the cage and pulling her back, pushing her back. Yes, I really liked that spot. I really thought that was that was nice and unique.

And you know, one other thing we want to talk about is if you remember a few years ago, Edge had the It just popped into my head, so I might get the titles right. He had the WWE title. He lost in the chamber. He took out, I believe, Kofi, entered the world champion chamber, and then won that.

So my man Edge won two titles, like. Had two titles. Yeah. Jade comes in with that beatdown that we discussed about Naomi. And my whole thought was as she slammed the cage door on Naomi, she was going to slide her out and lock herself in.

Right. And I was like, oh, she's going to take her spot. She didn't. She left. And then after giving it some thought, I don't think that would have been the right move unless Jade was supposed to win the chamber because you can't have her take a pin at all.

So it was probably for the best that she did her damage. And then. Yeah, I thought that same thing because then I looked at the gear. She and all black, Bianca and all white. And I was like, I was like, is this going to...

Did you find Liv and Naomi? All three of them. All white? They all had all white. They didn't even peep.

Yeah. Bianca, your gear was tight. I know you probably made it the night before, but you killed it. Great job. Fantastic.

And also, she had a. She had her Uh no. Post, I guess, event interview, where she was sitting at the table. Shall we She showed some acting shops. Yeah.

She brought it. Yeah. Because she brought it. She was generally confused. And she wanted to celebrate, but she found it hard to celebrate because of the voice quivering.

Yeah, you know, the taking off of the tremendous work. It's surreal. Yeah. Great job. And I feel real to you.

You damn it.

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And then we went into... The unsanctioned match between KO and Sammy. And let me just tell you: if we had a dollar for every time Kevin Owens and El Generico or Sami Zayn wrestled each other, I'd have one of those jackets to match his because we'd have a lot of dollars. These two, I believe, could literally go out blindfolded and put on. Blindfolded a three-star match, three and a half stars, even though we don't do ratings.

Yeah, right. But yeah, I mean, when you put Sami Zayn and KO together in a non-sanctioned match, you knew it was going to be violent. And they upheld their end of the bargain. Bro, when I was watching that match, all I could think about, here comes an anime reference for all my Dragon Ball Z fans. If you make Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens.

Fused together, you'd probably get Mick Foley. They were going so hard. And they put on such a Refreshingly violent match. You know, some of the things that you just look at them and think, I don't know if I would do that move on those chairs. All right, yeah, the chair is destroyed.

It was entertaining. It really felt like. you know, two friends who Like you said, the chemistry is unmatched. Unmatched. Unmatched.

The trust they have in each other, unmatched. And at the same time, they are putting on a story of heartbreak and revenge. And it was. Entertaining all the way through. There were no spots that I think didn't work.

There were so many moments of putting their bodies on the line. Of course, we know about the barbed wire chair, yes, but just the slam on top of the chair. The blue thunderbomb threw that. Yeah. The stacked tables.

It gave me. such satisfaction that I don't ever want to hear a complaint if they want to fight each other ever. You remember a few years ago when it seemed like Dolph Ziggler and Kofi would wrestle like. 52 weeks a year, they wrestle 43 of these 52. But I was like, every time they wrestle, they're putting on a bank.

Putting on the show, bro.

So, yeah, I feel you on that. Yeah, because I remember earlier. Uh, last year, remember, we just kept saying Carmelo versus Andrade, like it would just be every week, yeah, and like. It would be like again, but then you're watching, and it's like, oh, I wouldn't line that again. And so, like, when it comes to KO, and I think the WWE recognizes this because it seems like every year towards WrestleMania, we're going to get KO and Sammy mad at each other.

And I'm all for it. I'm all for it. This is kind of the same thing that I was feeling with. Of course, it's on a different, much more violent level, but I miss the Bayley versus Sasha Banks, now Mercedes with respect. Um I miss those matches.

I miss those clashes that they used to have. Chemistry is just. Yeah, like they just know. And, and, you know. Obviously, like I said, we're going to get to Raw later, but EO and Bianca, we talked about it when Bianca was here.

They have amazing chemistry. They are a pair of wrestling soulmates. And KO and Sammy embody, personify what it is to be wrestling soulmates. Yeah, absolutely.

Just great job by those two. You know, KO gets the win. Which he should. He probably should in a match like that. He incapacitates Sammy, and then he's getting ready to pile drive him or do something on concrete.

And then I started hearing voices, and then everyone else started hearing voices in our head. They counsel me, they oh, they understand. Yeah, Randall. You're talking about that condition you got. Oh, well, that's for later.

Yeah, man. Salt and peanuts. Salt and peanut. Nah, man, Randall K. Randall K.

Yeah. Coming down, just looking off. You know what I mean? And he's coming down.

So, you know, we obviously he's getting his revenge against Kevin Owens.

So that's going to be a WrestleMania match night one, night two. Not sure, but we're going to get Randy and KO, which will be a banger. Also, don't want to forget we had a tag team match between Tiffany Stratton and Trish Stratish, the legend, against our friend Nia Jackson, another friend of the show. Yeah, bro. We out here.

Come on, man. We out here, man. Maybe Candice LeRae. And, you know, this was pretty much by the books. You know, Tiff got the win.

She went over. We know she's going to go take on Charlotte. At WrestleMania. So, this was a way, I think, just to get Trish Stratus out there, get some hometown love, show the legends some love. It was, it was, it was supposed to get hometown love.

But Toronto, man, how quiet were y'all? Yeah, I mean, I get it. It's Trish Stratus. You could stare at the lady all day. All right.

But you can't do that. Like, there's just certain people they say God made the world in seven days. Two of those he probably spent on Trish Stratus.

So, like, I get it. But, like, dude, she's in her spot. And I just felt like, Toronto, you let me down. You let me down. I'm not, I'm going to get to you bull and the anthem later.

I ain't forgot. Eddie Guerrero, baby. But I'm going to text this. Oh, wait, real quick. The punt kick.

The punt kick didn't happen between Randy and Kevin Owens. Yeah, we know we're teased. We're getting teased there. But I also want to have a moment to say, what the hell was security doing that whole time? What the hell, security?

Where were y'all? Texting. Let me tell you what I'm not doing if I'm security. I'm in no rush to go down and break up a fight between two wrestlers because it never, listen, it never ends well for you. You're either going to get RKO'd or super kicked or power bombed or chokeslammed or DDT'd.

Or crossroaded, or is crossroaded a thing? You know, I don't even make it up where I guess we do. Or you're going to get, you know, what name insert move here is what's going to happen. If I'm security, I'm like, you don't pay me enough. I'm not going down there and getting work.

Listen, dog, I know about six, seven of y'all are at the performance center right now. You better get your ass in there quick. Or you just happen to just jump in right before the punk kick. I was so hot. But obviously, it's a moment that we haven't seen in a long time.

We know that WWE is prominent on the internet, and we know that they've seen the clips. We know one of the most evil people ever to grace television is 2009 Randy Orton. That's bald, Randy.

Okay. No games were played in 09. It was crazy. Yeah. The Lakers did win the championship.

Nobody cares about that. Yes. The punt kick, it shower turn. It's going down. It ain't going up.

But yes, Tiffany Stratton, Trish Stratus. On paper, it is a dyslexic person's nightmare to say those names together. They got the win. They got it done. Look great doing it.

I'm not sure why Nia had to take the pin there. I don't know why. I like that too. Friend of the show, Nia Jackson.

Well, plus, it's Nia Jax. Like, you had like that. Nia. That should be someone who's protected. And I didn't love her taking that pin.

I think Candace was right there. No disrespect. You know, I gave Candace her props a few months ago. And you notice after I did that, Candace started getting a little more TV time. I'm not saying a little influence.

I'm not saying we're the reason, but I'm saying that it couldn't hurt. No, it didn't hurt because. Because once I said, hey, yo, Candice LeRae. Hey, yo. Hey, yo.

So, yeah, so that's that. But I think now we got to get to that. Was the nice. Yeah. The appetizer, the part of the main course.

But now, right?

Now we need the tomahawk steak to be laid down, and that is the men's elimination chamber match where we had the returning John Cena, Charles Montgomery, Punk, Seth Rollins, Logan Paul, Damian Priest, and Drew McIntyre all in the elimination. Chamber, what were your thoughts going in? First blush, you Your first thought, who's winning this before this thing even started? Like, who were you leaning towards? I originally thought it was Cena.

I always thought it was Cena. Um our Of course. My man, punk. Not getting pinned by any finisher and not tapping. He was robbed, of course, but I In my fantasy booking.

I had always thought it was going to be John Cena getting the victory. Punk complaining that John never even did a qualifying match, and he just threw himself in there. And now he gets to go to Mania and possibly using the favor that we've all been waiting for to make it a triple threat match between Cody, Cena, and Punk. I always felt like the crowd would be completely torn. It would have been madness in the stands.

There probably would have been several fights of who people are going for. But obviously, this is why I'm on the couch with y'all because that wasn't the plan. And I just want to see Punk at a WrestleMania main event. I'll get it eventually, I know. But something I want to say.

What's that? Oh, you took away. In my life.

Okay. Cheers for Logan Paul. Never. I saw your Twitter. When he came out with them stars and straps, And it's only because Canada booed the national anthem and me being a petty sports fan that I am thought, like, damn, there's no way we're going to be able to get them back for that.

Because it's never going to be like the Canadian event on American territory.

So, like, when are we ever going to boo the Canadian anthem? And obviously, I recognize that there's other things going on besides wrestling that make them boo. Look, man, and that was my thought. I'm not saying you should have done it. But I understood.

If someone's threatening to make us their 51st state and calling our leader a you know, like look, man, I. Whatever. It happened, and I was like, wow.

Okay. Yeah, like, I got to take, but like. I'm a wrestling fan, man. I feel like I gotta get you back. And I had no opportunity to do it.

And Logan Paul being such a heel, coming out like Hulk Hogan back when he was normal. And, you know, waving the red, white, and blue. I was like, hell yeah. And I think wrestling's the one place where we can have that talk and keep it wrestling terms. Listen, look, Sean Michaels, up his nose.

He tried off the little Shawn Michaels with it before.

So, I mean, look, I guess I keeping it wrestling, and we had to get you back. Everything else. You're justified. What can I say? I mean, it's crazy over here, bro.

We're not going to act like it's not. But Kat being said, Logan got him. He did. Logan got him. You know, when Logan drew in Priest, I think that.

I guess in my heart, you know, I'm a big Drew fan, and part of me was somewhere in there thinking maybe, but I kind of knew those three probably weren't going to walk out of this chamber with the win. But they all, you know, they all showed and proved, did their thing in the chamber. Yeah. You know, but it came down to. You know, we had to get Punk and Seth going at it.

Yeah. And then they did. And Seth gets eliminated. Yep. But before he leaves, he's going to make sure that Charles Montgomery ain't getting the dub.

Die.

So CM Punk gets the curb stomp double foot. John Cena.

Now, this is. I'll be honest with you, my whole thought was Whoever wins this chamber. Because we know Cody Raheem Rhodes wasn't going to change, wasn't going to flip. I think we're all kind of understanding.

So I think my thought was: all right, whoever wins this chamber might be the one to take the rocks soul deal. But then it comes down to punk and scening, you're like, huh. But Cena, okay, didn't hesitate. He didn't hesitate to take advantage of Punk. And he looked like, oh, well, by the way.

For 17, 20 years, he's been doing that STF. Why did he never? Lock it in like that before. Remember, before it'd always be like he had the chin here and it. This is like, come on, bro.

It doesn't even look like you're hurting him. The way he had punk almost in a sleeper hold. Yeah. That is the way that man should have been using that hold all those years and you know, punk. There ain't nothing you can do at that point.

Not with them, you know. Look at him seeing his fist, bro. Like, you know, he's you're going to sleep. Right. And that's what happened.

You know what I just put together? What? And if you thought about this already in the comments, shut up.

Okay. I just got here. Let us know. Just chill. But wasn't Rock's dad Rocky Soulman?

Yes. So it was rocked soulmate.

Well, actually, R-Truth came up with that in the bit with Cody. Yeah. Damn. R-Truth brought you genius. R-Truth, like I said, R-Truth is on the Mount Rushmore of the greatest sports entertainers of all time.

Without question, we need R-Truth in this studio with us. Can you imagine us interviewing R-Truth after John Cena just turned? R-Truth is hurting right now. He said that that picture of Cena hugging, before we get to that point, he said that was AI-generated.

So we get this.

So. Seth smashes punk. Yeah. Cena puts on the finisher. Yeah.

Yes, yes. You know what I mean? Everybody's so happy. And I get, you know. Long time fans, the fans of nostalgia, you're happy.

Some fans might look at John Cena hasn't won a singles match in eight years.

So not only do you just. Place yourself in the elimination chamber, heel move. Yeah. Then you actually win it after you haven't been able to win a sitting. Like Grayson Waller, I mean, not Grayson, but Austin Thera beat you.

Yeah. By the way, push Austin theory. I missed. Oh, that's going to happen. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. And, you know, when you look back, there were plenty of hints. The hints were there. There were plenty of hints. Oh, we even got to the hint yet.

Because John Cena just won the elimination. He's doing the going to WrestleMania. Yep. Lift the chamber and everything. And then.

Then we hear they hit Cody's music. Cody comes out dressed in all black like the Omen. Yeah, and this is for my homemade. And the thing is, we just saw... Bianca went to chamber and Rhea comes out with her title.

So there's something in the back of the mind thinking, all right, maybe Cody is coming out for that photo op. Obviously, yeah, that's what I'm doing. And then John's going to leave, and then we're going to hear, but John never left. No.

Well, he didn't have a chance to. Yeah, because we heard The Rock's music. quick like that. And then there he was.

Well, no, he wasn't there. Was Travis Scott was there? I mean, he's there too, TJ. Travis Scott was there. Yeah.

We'll get to that as we go on with this. Um,. I saw a kid in the stands looking very confused. Like, why is he here? But then here comes the rock.

So now we got rock, we got Travis Scott come to the ring, we got punk. I'm sorry, we have Cena. Cody, rock, Travis Scott.

Now, the rock's basically saying, You're going to take this deal to sell me your soul. Shay, for I'm not gonna lie to you, Cody Rhodes, there was about a five-second period where I was like, as Cody's giving the speech, I was like, Cody's going to accept it. I thought there was no way. No way. And then he actually drew me into the point.

I was like, yo. He's gonna turn. And it smacked the shit out of John. I thought for like a split second, and then he gives his whole, I've sold my soul to this business already. Great speech.

Great speech. And then he tells The Rock that he can go. Forget about it himself, and who, first of all, hearing that on WWE television. was It was like, aye, aye, aye. Like, what?

You just told this man to go F himself without getting bleeped. Without getting bleeped. On net phone, now national television? Yeah, bro. And it hit.

It hit the way that it was supposed to. I haven't heard a pop like that since Sammy hit Roman in the back at the Rumble. Yeah, it's been a minute. And, you know, that. One thing in the rock never even had that stolen look.

He's like, okay, you trying to disrespect me in front of all these people?

Okay. And then you saw a scene in the back going crazy. Because last time we saw a scene in rock. He's trying to beat Rock up at WrestleMania. Yeah.

So Cena's looking happy. All right, Cody's not going to take the deal because, you know, Cena don't want him to do that. No.

You know, and I'll be honest with you, it was that that moment I went, oh. Oh, wait a second. Yeah. And then the hug comes away. And then the hug comes.

Ain't no way. And then you get that. Bro. It was so With the two at the end. I was like, did you slit your throat with some scissors?

And then the kick. And, you know, watching the fans' faces behind them. Yeah. Watching them st It starts to come to realization what was about to happen. When there was one face pointing, I was watching, he was just like pointing, and his face was like, Yeah.

And then he hugged him. Push them? Bam. Bam. Right.

Yeah, right in his little nightmares. And then it was on after that. It was on after that. And, you know, they obviously beat the hell out of Cody. Uh, his the Rolex, the Rolex, the Rolex to the face, the title to the face.

By the way, you could hear that belt, that 20 of gold cracking off of Cody Rhodes' skull. Yeah, like it was. And then of course the rock. With the belt that says Cody's soul with the day of his father's passing on it, which is so sick. That is so diabolical.

That is sick, oh, for that. Dwayne Johnson, can I speak to you? That is so diabolical. Oh my God. And yet it made sense.

It's so morbid. It's so morbid, but it made sense in the story. Man, yo, oh my God. Obviously, we all know everybody in that ring loved Dusty. And this is just something, just part of the business.

But man, I didn't think we were going to go there. It was shocking. It was something that so many people have wanted for so many years. It kind of made you wonder why you waited till the end of the road to do something like this. Yeah.

Possibilities are now endless. Yeah, we'll go with it. Farewell tour. You're supposed to be filled with, you know, getting your flowers, rocking chairs, and clocks and, you know, handmade art. And macaroni necklaces.

Arena is supposed to be like, yeah, but nah, if I'm going to go out with a bang, I'm going out. Yeah, I'm going out, bro.

So it was, oh. And let's not forget, Cody got slapped in the face by Travis.

Well, I was going to bring that up next. What a lot of people had a lot of thoughts about that. I know I was like Travis. Damn. I guess I was at the point where, like, that moment was so historic.

Yeah, like. Why did he see that? And then he didn't seem like he knew. He was trying to pick up. Cody's head, grabs, but that slap where apparently it's been reported that he broke Cody's eardrum.

Bro, you know, I feel about a melted. I don't know if that's true or not, but I do know that he slapped the dog mess out of him. Yeah, bro. And one thing we do know about wrestling is the They are all accountants because they keep receipts. Keep receipts.

So, Nike shoebox. Travis got one coming. Got one coming, bro. That was. Ew.

That was. I can't wait to hear what everyone thinks. I mean, I made a joke like. Cody, you're going to have to get Metro Booming, bro. Like, Travis, Scott, of all people, slapped the hell out of you.

Like, come on. Like, bro, held my arms while the rock with me. Like, dude, why are you even here? You better cull up mustache. Yeah, but like, bro, obviously, you know, people have their things to say.

As a wrestling fan, Travis, I'm happy you got involved, but just know, brother. Laverasheed is coming home. They got to get you back. It's just that's how wrestling is. That's how it works, you know.

But yeah, John Cena finally making that turn to the dark side. And it was the biggest sports. I said sports. It was leading off some news.

So, some news programs are reporting on this.

So, this thing, you know, superseded or just went past just your sports entertainment and your sports world. This was big time news because John Cena, as we all know, he is the biggest make-a-wish. provider or giver of I think anyone out there. That's why a lot of people didn't think he'd ever turn bad because of It was like that. But now let me tell you right now, he's Break-A-Wish right now.

And I put that on our Instagram page. Those two faces, when he smiled and saw Punk in the cage and they had that little embrace in that moment, that was great. But then it was just like, man, he completely, it was like someone came in and claymationed his face into a scowl.

So I can't wait to see. And we all know one thing: John Cena is a moment. monster on the microphone. Yeah. He all died.

in front of him. We've seen him time and time again just completely eviscerate other other wrestlers on the mic.

So that this first John Cena Hill promo, oh, it's gonna be great. Goodness. And can't imagine. We've seen the videos. Um, the reaction of kids at home.

You know, we've seen videos of the reaction of kids there and their John Cena merch. Um, you know, and they're they are obviously the kids are fans. There are a couple of those kids who will be future superstars.

So, to each and every one of those young John Cena fans that we saw with tears in their eyes, I only have one question. When did wrestling break your heart? I think I know, man. Welcome to misery. You are now.

A wrestling fan. True knocking, man. And that was, that was, we had some. I've never been a part of C Nation.

Okay. I'm in there now. I got my passport stamped, bro. We're in here. Cody, crybabies.

You know how I feel about you. And I'm going to be insufferable. Until WrestleMania.

Now, I know what I think is going to happen, but I'm not going to put that out there because I'm going to enjoy being a heel again on Twitter. And I am a heel who is a member. Of the new. See Nation. Yes, sir.

Hollywood Shea is here. Yeah, you know, it's going to be interesting. We're getting corporate Cena. We're getting Hollywood John. I don't know.

Is he going to change up the look? Are we going to go back to the crew cut? Are we losing the Jorts? I don't know. I am like you, I don't know if I was a member of C Nation.

Obviously, respect the hell out of John Cena, but I think I was one of those people who was like, all right, at some point, I had to ask my little brother for permission. I thought I was culturally appropriate. I was like, bro, can I be a part of Scene Asia? He said, welcome. But man, this is, like I said, this was the hill turn that we all wanted.

And we all talk about. Best Hill turns. And that was a question that was going around. They brought up Hogan and Cena, but I think the Hogan thing was different. I think the closest one to this is probably when Stone Cold joined.

Mr. McMahon. Which is why I can never watch the end of WrestleMania 17. Which, by the way, not a lot of people were putting together when they were talking about Great Hill turns, but that one you never saw Stone Cold. Pisses me off still.

Binding forces with Mr. McMahon to me, that was this one was kind of more closely aligned to that Hill turn than the Hogan was. Yeah. Because I've always said this in the last two years about the final boss. He's like Mr.

McMahon, but he's worse because he has all the power. Like Mr. McMahon, except he could actually whip your ass. He'll beat your ass. Moana 3.

Right? Like Mr. McMahon, he was jacked and buffed, but you didn't really have that. That fear that you were going to catch an L. But the final bus, he'll still get in there and, you know.

Turn it, shine it up. Turn it sideways, stick it straight up the candy. Yeah, you know what I mean?

So beat your ass in Jumanji.

So, yeah, man, this is amazing. It's a great time for wrestling. You know, you've now got two of the biggest stars, two guys who are on thousands of people's Mount Rushmores, are now both bad guys and working together on the road to WrestleMania. But I'm like you, I'll reserve my WrestleMania predictions and cards for later.

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Thank you. You talked about Cody cry babies. Whatever. I'm a Cody fan, so I'll say this. What we're not paying attention to is Cody Rhodes is now on the path to becoming the biggest baby face.

I'm not going to say ever. But Cody Rhodes is now on the path to be elevated to, I mean, he was already a super duperstar, but I feel where this is going to take him is, you know. And you're right to feel that way. You are right to feel that way, dude. This dude.

You know, it's like Michael Jackson said. He said, well, they say the sky's a limit. And for me, it's really true. First of all, that's one of the most gangster lines I've ever heard in my life. Like, you want to, they say the sky's the limit.

And for me, it's really true because it's true. Yeah. That's where we're at with Cody right now. Dude, when it comes to Cody. He's so such a professional.

The dude can go in the ring. He's got the lineage, he's got the legacy. What is always what I think is going to be his major issue and we saw it a little bit with this first year of him being champion is when you got the ultimate hero, when you got G.I. Joe, Who's going to be the Cobra for him to have to go against? And, you know, him going up against the bloodline in Roman, it was like a match made in heaven.

You know, it was perfect. And with that gone, we've really been looking for who's going to be. The Cobra commander. Like, who's going to be that big bad for our hero to have to vanquish? And You made it the rock and John Cena.

This is a mountain that is. How the hell are you going to overcome this? Dude, and it's going to put him. If he gets through this, if that's what's in the cards, it is going to. Throw him into the stratosphere.

Hoodie Raheem Rhodes. And, like, you know, he did the way he deserves it. He really does. And obviously, when I crack jokes about the Cody crybabies, it is only because I am a Roman Reigns fan and I'm getting on and I'm him. Yeah, you're right.

And so, like, I have to get at them because of that WrestleMania 40 run. But when Cody is. Pissed off, Cody. It's great television, man. We saw it at the Rumble.

We see when he gets when the veins come out that forehead. That is a hero that everybody can get behind, and he's going to have to bring it. That's not a pun on the rock, TJ. Relax. I'm just saying, I like your style.

It's going down, dude. I'm feeling. Very satisfied as a fan of the WWE. And I'll leave this with two things. One, when we do eventually get the Cody Rhodes Hill turn, which isn't coming anytime soon, Homelander.

I don't think you people understand. You don't get it. If you haven't seen some of his, especially in New Japan, a matter of fact, on our Instagram today, I'm going to post a Cody. Hill promo, the man is just nasty on the stick, bro. And I'm telling you, when that day comes, he's gonna shock people.

We're not gonna get that for a while. But And like I said, I want to hold off my WrestleMania predictions and I'm not going to say his name yet. But there is a man. Because You have rock and you have Cena. How the hell can you combat that?

You got to bring out some firepower to help you. Can Triple H go?

Well, we know he has the heart thing, right?

So maybe he can't go out there. Maybe it's not safe. But there's another, and like I said, I'll leave this for later and we'll move on. There's another. Super duper duper star that didn't show up at Mania last year.

That's out there. who might be getting a call that Cody needs some help. A certain resident of Nevada. Of Nevada. And let's just let that marinate.

But all I'm saying is: if Cody needs some help. There's a certain PJ, there's a certain ball brother out there. You snake in the grass. No.

Baby.

Well, here's another thing, Jose. You know, Cena, by the way, John Cena follows everybody on Twitter. I think he follows like 897,000 people. Think of the worst person you know. John Cena follows me.

So we've been, you know, and Cena usually he posts just. Random memes and pictures that usually don't mean anything. But we've collected a few John Cena Twitter ex posts, and I feel like he's starting to make some sense here. First of all, right there, we have Harvey Dent. Yeah, for those listening, we are showing Aaron Eckhart.

Yeah, Aaron Eckhart, aka Harvey Dent, aka Two Face. Two Face was interesting.

Okay, so that's interesting that John Cena would randomly post a picture of Harvey Dent, aka Two Face. Then we have another one.

Now, this is from Squid Games, I believe. Yeah, that's the main character of Squid Games. And this is kind of like the John Cena picture, you know, in the beginning of happy-go-lucky. And then when the face melted in turn, that wasn't just by accident, John Cena posted that. And then this last one's kind of.

You know, you're looking at this and you're like, okay, Don McClain, American Pie.

Okay, what's this guy to do? And then he's. Got a thumbs up with the American flag, and you kind of go, oh. You know, I'm not trying to be a stickler, but that's definitely the Puerto Rican flag. No, I'm just playing.

Well, now that you're looking, I see what you're saying. For fans of the Avengers, you know, we always call Captain America Captain Puerto Rico because he only had one star. Yeah, there's only one star. But I'm going to say that Don McClain, American Pie, there was another star on the other side. Does that mean he's got Cody, the American Piece under my thumb?

Yeah. Does McJagger out there like, oh, girl? The hand movement was crazy. It's got the meat. Shmo, that's my Mick Jagger.

I thought he was in the room. I tell you when I was a kid, I in back in high school, I made up a Mick Jagger joke that he was a weatherman. And it was just like Mick Jagger doing the weather. And I was like, it's so hot today.

So hot today. It's so hot today. Time going to be cold. Expect some showers out. I need that clipped.

Should we? I need that clip. Don, please. Clip that. The black McJagger coming out.

Yeah, that's all. Black Jagger. But man, this is so great, bro. Like, we picked a tremendous time to kick off this podcast. Yeah.

Because there has never been another time in history that both The Rock and John Cena have both been bad guys.

So. Man, I am looking forward to this road, and it's going to be paved with bodies, man, and broken bones and blood and pain. My petition for the fight, pain, as Clubber Lang once said. Dude, it's a great time. They got you in a position where you have to watch every week.

Triple H even said, does it feel like the road to WrestleMania now? And like, guys, I get it. You all want to complain online and this, that, and the third. And I get it, it's because he didn't give you a thousand hints to tell you what he was going to do. But let the man cook.

Let him cook. Let him cook. He knows what he's doing. He's been around the business. He knows he's been around the world, and aye, aye, aye.

Look, you heard X-Pac last week. Triple H, he didn't party. He was the designated driver. That means he kept his mind fresh, and all he did was think about the business on them long road trips where everybody was in the back smoking L's. And Triple H had the will and he was thinking about the business.

By the way, that was definitely one of my favorite moments of last week's interview.

So he was like the designated driver. No, no, he wasn't. He wasn't. Damn, I guess he did drive all the time. It was just like Rick James.

I never put my feet on Eddie's couch. That was preposterous. That was something to do. I got a little bit more.

So I put my feet on Eddie's couch. Straight up. Shout out to X-Pac. That was the. True that shout out to Xbox.

Great episode. If you haven't seen it, check it out on YouTube, Apple, Spotify. And by the way, If you want to know where you can find us, you can find us on Twitter. Yeah. There's no contest on Instagram, no contest wrestling podcast.

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I don't know how active you are on Instagram. I'm, I mean, I'm getting there. I'm getting there. I just can't kiss my own ass so much.

Well, you know, there's a lot of videos that we tag you in that would help our numbers go up if you follow us. Yeah, that's the thing.

So, yeah, so now let's get to Monday. Yeah, Monday night. Raw. Pretty big. It was a big one.

Pretty big. And they knew they had to they knew they had to ride that wave still. Yeah. No, we didn't get we didn't get a uh you know, Cena went Back to Africa, which is just funny to say, but you've seen them went back to Africa. The Rock uh went back to the Legion of Doom or wherever it is at right.

And yeah, we weren't gonna get the answers, but we started with the friend of the show, our premiere episode, he put us on CM Punk and TJ. A couple hours before Raw aired, I texted Phil.

Okay, and I said. go out there and destroy. You know what he texts me back? I will, period. And Hmm.

Did he? He went a little hard. He was a little aggressive. You could, you, I think this is on our Instagram page, too. I, somebody made a video of his speech.

With the ether beat to it. And it was perfect. Him coming out, just going off, talking about your BS to the rock. It was like, oh my God. You bald fraud.

Frauds, both of them. He said you bald fries. Like two of them. Like, Punk is just. Bro.

He's a monster on the bank. The bald community has been outraged ever since because now there's a meme that you can use against any bald person you don't like. And it's thanks. To see him punk, right? Chris Brockman.

Jason Feller back there behind the sticks, on, you know, working the audio for us. But yeah, and then. You know, Seth comes out. And what I loved about this, right, right off the bat, is this. I love it when guys fight.

Okay. And there's no BS. Didn't wait for Seth to come out, did the crowd get hyped. He heard the music. He said, Oh, hell no, it's on site.

He jumped out the ring, headed up the ramp, and it was on him cracking. And you got to love it like that. During security, what, four or five times? Just like I said, security, don't even go out there. You're just going to catch a bad one if you do that, man.

Hey, one, well, if you if you look back at that tape, one of the security took a nasty fall, and like he didn't get hit, he just fell backwards and tumbled. Uh, my mother got a good kick out of that. She sent me a video. Yeah, so Yeah, that was um Man, I love it. These two are going to have a cage match on Monday.

Yeah. I don't know. I thought about hitting you up. Maybe I should come over and watch this because this is. Yeah, I thought that was going to be our mania match, but now I'm not and like that's another thing.

Like, I will. You know, my before you were my my Uh, NCW tag team partner. My tag team partner is and will always be my younger sister, Corinne. And we were talking, and she was like, Yeah, it's got to be Seth and Punk at Mania. And I'm like, Man, I don't want.

I don't know. And she was like, well, I was like, we've already seen it. She goes, when? I said, Karima, we were at Raw. We saw it at Raw.

She's like, oh, yeah, why are they doing this? But it's happening on Monday, cage match. I suspect, I don't want this to happen, but I see Seth. Maybe pulling that one out and then we get. Uh, Rollins Punk 3 at Mania.

Or perhaps we got to get our tribal chief in there somewhere. You know, that's where I was about to get tribal chief ain't forgotten about that double curbstone. Yeah, bro. You put both your feet in the back of this herbalescence. By the way, you want to tell the people why when we were at the Rumble, I didn't see this happen.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. No, I forget. Why didn't you see it happen? Who are you looking at? Because I wasn't there.

Oh my god, that's right.

So Pete Gay.

So Pete Gay, when Punk got eliminated, right? When Logan Paul. When Logan Paul eliminated CM Punk. This psychopath walked off. Like, left the seats and disappeared into the stadium.

We didn't see him. He didn't text nobody. He just walked off and like kept the bit going long enough that we didn't know where he was. Where did you go? I just walked to the back of the arena.

To the back of the arena. It's a football stadium. I was so mad. I was so mad. Oh my God, that's a rhyme.

Remember punk? Roman and Seth kind of all got thrown out basically at the same point. But when that happened, I jumped up out my chair, this chair right here, by the way. Actually, and I said, Excuse me. You know, Mrs.

McAfee was in front of me. I excused myself. I walked by you, Dom Bowie and Sean Grabbin and your uncle, and I left. I just went, I walked around. Yeah.

I just watched it on the broken. That's so true. I didn't come to that. Joe Banger, we didn't get to talk about that because Luca Donchic got traded to the Lakers. That's right.

Yeah, I was psychopath. Dom Bowie knows I was out. I was so annoyed. I'm like, I'm not watching this.

So hot. That's so funny. Because I thought Charles Montgomery, you know, that's it. I was like, this is it. We doing it.

Chick Magnet put us on the map. And when you put us on the map, that means you have an extra special place in the hearts of NCW. First time Hall of Famer. First time. Yeah, bro.

Chick Magnet, Chicago made. Charles Montgomery. Thought it was going to be corporate made, but I'm like, nah, he ain't going to sell out. Yeah, because he had an interview where he was like, you know, if I was younger, I would have took that deal, but not now. All I want is for in Living Color to once again play CM Punk like they did, I think, WrestleMania like 26.

Play him to the ring for a main event match. I just want to see Corey Glover. I want to say, look in my eyes, what do you see? Call the personality like Mussolini and Kennedy. Like Mussolini.

So, yeah, I was, I was, yeah, we didn't talk about that. I was handy. I had to go home and re-watch the Royal Rumble because there was like 10 minutes I didn't even see because I was just like stewing in the back. Yeah, me and Don. Where's TJ?

Like, no, nothing. We thought you went straight to the airport. We're trying to figure out what to do with your luggage. I almost did, man. I was like, oh my God.

Yeah, bro. You're nuts. But yeah, so, you know, what's going to happen? I think those three eventually might end up in the trips. But again, we'll give our WrestleMania picks a little bit later.

Gunther and Otis. Yeah. Uh to quote uh Big E. Langston, big meaty men slapping meat. Oh, that's over, by the way.

That's still. It just drives me crazy to you. Why? Big meaty miss slapping meat. Dude, pause it.

Camera on it. Throw a pause in there. But Otis is so over with the crowd. People just love Otis. He's like a cartoon character come to life.

And I'm glad they gave him an opportunity to stand toe-to-toe because. When you're built like Otis and you're that big and that strong, you shouldn't be nobody's pushover, dog. Like, yeah, Otis should be able to go with, you know, to a point with anybody.

So I love the fact him and Gunther are out there just chopping each other down, you know. And Otis had a great show in the first show. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

But yeah. Hold on. Let me introduce a new segment that I just decided to start right now. Don Boo ain't got graphics. He's going crazy in the first iteration of Jason Fellows.

Like I got a drop for this. Wasn't that weird? Like, wasn't that weird? That's the name of the segment. You guys remember in 2020 when we had to see all those movie matches because nobody was allowed to go to a WWE event?

Oh, yeah, that was cool. Come on, Odin won the money in the bank, and then they ended up taking it away from him. Took it, and also in that match. Rey Mysterio definitely gets thrown off the side of a building. Wasn't that weird?

Well, you know, there was a second layer of the building. Rey Mysterio died.

Well, he's a ghost now.

So, that was the first edition of. Wasn't that weird? Thank you. We have our boy Jake called that. Jake, just that's the real right there.

Wasn't that weird? Anytime you think of something that just didn't have an answer in wrestling, what's this called? Wasn't that weird? Yeah, man. It was great to see Otis give a nice showing.

And then, you know, of course, Gunther with the beat down. Here comes Tozawa, who, by the way, they gave Tozawa a little bit of shine too. Bro, if you knew Tozawa before he came to WWE, he was kind of that dude.

So it was good to see him not always be the comedy. Yeah. Let him get a little bit of shine. But then Jay comes out. Jay running.

Here's the deal. I don't know. I don't know if I ever want. And I love them, but I don't even know if I ever want main event Jey User to come save me if I'm getting beat up. And I'm going to tell you why.

Because your boy Jay will take his time coming out like and he'll come out like Anytime now. And he'll do his little run. And then finally, Jay, I just took 13 stunners. By the time it took you to stop me, I don't know if I want Jay to come to me. You know what I mean?

Send Jimmy out first. No, I got to get these photo ops off, bro. That was like one time Jeff Hardy came out to save Matt from a beat down. And Jeff hadn't been around in a while. And they hit the music.

And Jeff stood at the ramp while Matt is getting beat up and hit his run. And that was like. I'm on 5 HP over here. I remember leaving a comment because Rebby Hardy put that on her TikTok. And I was like, look at Jeff hitting this move.

And that thing got like 5,000 likes on her TikTok. But yeah, like Jay came down. We're just going to see these two just basically, I guess, get after it every week. Every week, bro. But I'm a little worried, man, because I don't know.

Jay did win the Royal Rumble.

So he should be guaranteed that title match. I don't know. Does this have the final boss going to weave his magic in the middle? Oh my God. Why would you even bring it out in the universe?

Got to ask, man, because we don't know what's going to happen. Oh, my God, TJ. I thought we were going to just talk about, I don't know if he could beat Gunther. I didn't even think about Rock.

Well, that's why I'm here, okay? Oh, my God. Because I sit and all I do is think about this stuff. Bad news bear over here. Hey, Jay Felly, can you do me a favor?

You know that sheet I showed you on the desk back there, that packet? Could you bring that to me? I want to show you. Like I it's not that I I All I do is think about this stuff, but that's really a thing about like. You about to show me Pandora's box of wrestling.

Man, like, just think about it. It could. It could happen. Ugh. Can you imagine?

But I I I think on on these Weeks that have been happening with between Jay and Gunther. Gunther's making a lot of enemies. Oh yeah. Gunther talks down to people too. Yeah, and people people really like Jay.

Yeah. So we don't know where that's going to lead. You know, we could uh Go ahead, bro. We got characters, by the way, at no contest. First of all, I want to show this, our guy, Jay Felly, but also check out the merch.

Jay, show him the shirt, baby. Yeah, you know, you want that NCW shirt. We're going to get that to you somehow, some way. Yeah, you know, but yeah, by the way, I want to show you this too. Like, you know, because my day job, I don't know if everybody knows, is I work on the Rich Eisen show three hours a day, five days a week with a man who's been Emmy nominated, well respected in the game as a broadcaster.

I'm just trying to show these people something. No, Shay, can I finish real quick?

Now, I want to show, I told you yesterday on the phone, I'm really prepared for WrestleMania, right? And I treat this as a job. Like, this ain't a game. I don't do this for fun. And much like Rich Eisen, when he's calling an NFL game or Troy Aikman or Joe Buck or, you know, any of the legendary announcers, they have their packets of.

Of research, O'Shea. They get ready for this stuff.

So I want to show you, I'm taking this seriously. By the way, I made a packet. This is every WrestleMania right here, people. Every WrestleMania, all the results. Let me show it this way.

All the results where it happened, the main events, just everything. I've been studying.

Okay. I just want to let you know that I'm taking this very seriously. It's WrestleMania season right now, dog. It is. It's WrestleMania season.

We at NCW got to be prepared because you never know when someone's going to ask us a WrestleMania question. I'm going to make sure we're prepared.

So I've been studying. Give me a WrestleMania number, I'll tell you what happened. Uh uh 27. Oh, WrestleMania 27. Let's find that here.

Uh WrestleMania 27. That was April the 3rd, 2011, in the Georgia Dome in Atlanta, Georgia. That saw The Miz and John Cena for the WWE Championship, which The Miz won. The Undertaker took on Triple H in a no-holds barred match, which obviously the Undertaker won. That was the WrestleMania that Snooky wrestled.

If you remember that one, yes, greatest show ever on television. The Jersey Shore, Cody Ross, Jim Ten Laundry. Yeah, bro. By the way, the situa the situation when that my show first started gave me a nickname. He nicknamed me.

The solution. Mm. Yes, true story. The situation nicknamed me the solution. And I thought it was dope until the next day he went on Conan and he also gave Conan the nickname the solution, but he gave it to me first.

Okay, so what? He's going to tell you. Why would you tell that part of the story? Because I believe him being open with our people, man. But I had it first, though.

That's true. I had it first. I had it first. That's true. WrestleMania 27 was the mania that Seamus beat Daniel Bryan in, I believe.

No, that was for the U.S. title. That was a no contest in that one. That was a what? That was a.

No contest. You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm saying? I look like Captain Crunch. The great Khali, he won the Battle Royal.

Cody Rhodes beat Rey Mysterio. Yeah, man, I've been just doing my WrestleMania research, dog. You know, I'm going to make this the greatest podcast ever.

So we got to know our stuff.

So I got to say, Chris Van Blake, we're coming for you. Nay, Sam. Yeah, so Jay, we don't know what's going to happen there. We're hoping Jay gets his one-on-one, but Shay, at this point, we don't even know. I don't know.

Women's Intercontinental match. Lyra Valkyria, when she got to NXT, I had never heard of her, never seen her. They did a promo package for her. How about that? Right?

Introduced me to a woman I'd never seen before. And just on the strength of them showing this video package, I was like, I like her. Yeah. And I've been a Lyra fan ever since. Her and Dakota Kai battled for that women's IC title.

They put on a really good match. I want to give them their props and their respect. My admiration for Lyra. And I'm sorry, did I say Dakota Kai? No, no, I don't think so.

Okay, it was Ivy.

Now, oh, yeah, no, you did. Did I say the colours? My bad. I apologize. Ivy's now.

Hey, man, it's Wednesday. You know, it's hump day. You called Schwarzenegger, if I'm not mistaken. Andrea Schwarzenegger, bro. She plays no games.

Little pit bull. She looked like she'll mess you up. But my appreciation for. Lyra uh happened after money in the bank That money in the bank match, she took some bumps where I was like, yo. I need the concussion tent available, but she's durable and she can go.

You know, bird lady. Bird lady. I'm with her. I'm a Lyra fan. Then, of course, we had Penta.

He took out Ludlow Kaiser and a little bit. Penta been so swagged out the last two weeks with his jackets. It kills me. And I know he made them. They're not going to go on the shop, though.

But man. It bothers me how swagged out this dude has been. And by the way, we hear news that his brother Way Phoenix is now free to go where he'd like to go. I expect Raw After Mania. You never know.

You never know. No.

And then we had that tag team match between the War Raiders and the Creed Brothers. Yeah. You want to just talk about four big, strong athletic dudes banging it out? I thought the Kreed Brothers, for a split second. I thought the Greek brothers were going to win that match, and eventually they are going to.

I mean, the writing's on the wall. Those dudes are so naturally talented. They know what they're doing. They got the chemistry. And just that match in general, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody down the road just picked that.

Those four guys as their bar fight answer. Right. Because, like, I feel pretty safe. Yeah. But then we have the main event, man, and it was the women's championship match between Rio Ripley and Eo Skye.

And I'm just going to say this: if you've ever sat within, I'd say, a thousand feet of me at a wrestling match where EO Sky was, then you've heard me. Scream. Yeah, bro. At the Royal Rumble, I screamed EO's name so much that I lost my voice.

So, you know, Rhea is dope, but I love EO Scott. Man, I love, I love, I got EO Shirai merch. Oh, I wore my EO Shirai shirt yesterday, bro. Like, come on, talk to me nicely.

So, what a match. We have Bianca come out because obviously, she's going to get the winner of this match in the championship bout at WrestleMania. She has a vested interest in whoever comes out on top.

Now, we're sitting there wondering: okay, is Bianca going to interfere? Is Jay gonna come down? Like, It was great when you really don't know what's gonna happen. But what we got was Rhea Ripley never beating E.O. Skye in a match.

So that's weighing on us. Like, okay, is she gonna get her first win? You're thinking Bria, Bianca at WrestleMania is gonna be.

Well, it's kind of quick, kind of quick to kind of build that up the way that it's supposed to be. This is. You know, this is. Holy field, like you know, like this is a heavyweight fight, you know. And this is gonna last throughout the ages as well.

Well, exactly.

So, like, this has to be treated a certain way. And, you know, we thought that it was possibly going to go down, but EO is like, hold on now. Yeah. Don't disrespect me. I'm the genius of the sky.

Yeah, don't disrespect me.

So, it, yeah, Rhea was battling the fact that she's never beaten EO. On top of, I know they haven't had a singles match for anybody who's going to jump in the comments. Like, well, those don't count. Shut up. So, Bianca.

Shut your mouth when you're talking to me. Right? Yeah. So, no, you're wrong. All right.

So, Bianca and Rhea obviously have been in a chamber together. Bianca got the pin on Rhea in there. Rhea had a gauntlet match. She was exhausted. And, of course, Bianca got the easy pin on her there.

And Bianca beat her in the final two of the Royal Rumble that year.

So those are still, they're not necessarily victories that you put on your record, but those are still being seen pinned and losing on television.

So you have both of those things going through the mind of Rhea Ripley. And. Hubris came before the fall. Yeah, they say pride does come before the fall. Yeah, bro.

That's pretty much it. You know, Rhea was trying everything she could to beat EO. Yeah. And she just couldn't do it. And then she noticed Bianca cheering for Eo, which Bianca was just rooting for a good match, is what she was out there doing.

Rhea took her eyes off the ball. It's just plain and simple. You're wrestling EO. And you push Bianca.

Well, before that, though, before that, you're wrestling EO. She's one of the greatest wrestlers that God ever made.

Okay, man, woman, child. You got it. Keep your focus on this woman who you don't have an answer to. Ria let Bianca take her out of the game, and then she got out. She started to yap to Bianca.

Things got a little physical. There was a push here, a shove there. Yeah, well, more the shove. Rhea really, you know, shove and then Bianca came back. I twisted.

Tweeted referee Jessica Carr today from the no contest. Twitter, X Handle. And I said, and basically what I said to her was: and let me know if you agree, great use of referee discretion by letting the Women's World Championship match continue. No one wants to see a title match. and because of interference, especially when the in-ring competitor.

initiated The interference. No harm, no foul. I thought Jessica Carr Use that referee discretion. Perfectly. And...

It was shoving. It wasn't never with a closed fist. You know, there was no, it was shoving. I've seen matches where two people are in each other's face, shoving each other back and forth, and there's no DQ called.

Well, as you said, the referee's discretion is perfect. Also, but you got to look at EO lost her chance to get to the chamber because of a push from Rhea.

So that can be maybe Rhea's argument. That can add to fully expect that we're going to see probably a triple threat. For that women's world title match at WrestleMania, we just got to let it play. But at the end, EO Shrei got the victory. And I'm telling you, you know how I feel about EO.

Don knows how I feel. Everybody that was around us, everyone who was at the Raw After Mania two years ago at Stapledo, I love EO. I was in my apartment like Oh my god, I was losing it, bro. I don't know if she's going to win. And then I was losing it, bro.

And they handled it so well. It felt just like when Jay won the Intercontinental title. How I just thought I knew better. And then WWE said, This is why you watch every week. Exactly.

It was a few weeks ago. This is why you watch every week. It felt, you know, it felt great. Obviously, you know, Rhea Ripley has such a strong following online. A lot of them are screaming, nor right now.

So I get it. Noor? Noor. What's that? It's what the Australians say now.

But yeah, so it's a. It's it's troubling time, but We will see where they go with it. There's no way Rhea Ripley, as box office as she is, is going to take this line down. Yeah, and there's no way that she's not going to be in a very prominent spot at WrestleMania. Narr.

Nar Nar Well, man, I think we did a great job of recapping just a... Incredible few days, few hours of wrestling. Man, we got the hill turn that everybody wanted. We got the storm that came through and just wiped out one of the most beloved. Wrestlers.

And by the way, speaking of break your heart, you know, I have a little friend named Bear who's in the wrestling. Bear Cup. Bear told me the Monday prior when Jaden Bianca lost the tag team belts. I thought he was a live fan. I'm like, are you happy?

Bear goes, not really. They kind of cheated. And I was like, yeah, but I thought you liked Liv. He goes, oh, yeah, but I love Naomi. I'm like, you do?

He goes, yeah, I feel the glow.

So Bear and his mom called me Saturday. He hadn't watched the pay-per-view, the PLE. And he wanted to know what happened. And I was like, bro, I think you just need to watch this. And he was like, tell me what happened.

I'm like, now tomorrow morning when you're able to wake up, watch it. But I don't think you're going to like it. And so I haven't talked to him, but I know that's going to be his answer when wrestling broke his little heart, man. Yeah. To see Jay Cargill beating up on Naomi, his absolute favorite.

So, yeah, I got to talk to him and see if he's okay. But man, it was something else. And then we got the. the championship title change we didn't see coming. We're on the road, man.

Yeah, man. So I mean That about does it? I think that's it for our recap. There is. There is something I do want to speak on.

Yes, indeed.

Something that I. It is a little bit personal with me. Oh, that's. With us, yes, of course.

Now. The WWE has always done an excellent job. when it comes to celebrating Black History Month. It's Black Superstars, and those across all. facets of wrestling within the black community.

And it is because they've done such an excellent job year after year after year that. This year, it does go notice. Stood out a little bit, stood out a little bit. that we never got. That post for Black History Month.

Now, it doesn't come from a place of anger asking about this, but more of a. Little bothered, little concerned about it. WWE, like I said, has always shown. Love to black culture, you can listen to the theme songs of a couple of the shows, and you can hear the influence right there and the appreciation right there. And a lot of people might look at a post like it's nothing, but it means something to a lot of people to see that.

So here, At the No Contest Wrestling Podcast. We just want to take a moment to show our appreciation to members of the WWE. Alicia Taylor. Shanti Adams, Ava. Angelo Dawkins, BFAP, Bianca Belair, Big E, Booker T, Byron Saxton, Carlito, Carmelo Hayes, Idris Inofe.

Jade Cargill, Jada Parker, Jakarta Jackson. Shout out, Miss Jackson. Javon Evans, Caden Carter, Kilani Jordan, Kofi Kingston, Lash Legend, Lucian Price, Malik Blade, Montez Ford, Naomi, Obafemi, Oro Mensa, R-Truth, Soul Ruka, Tavion Heights, Titus O'Neill, Trick Williams, Tyreek Egway, Tyson DuPont, Wesley, and our boy, Xavier Woods, and any staff or crew over there, we would like to wish you a happy Belated. Black History Month. And anybody I forgot, I apologize.

I wrote these down. Yeah, I hand rodol.

Okay. You know, I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying, brother. It's a trip.

It's an attempt. Yeah, exactly. I appreciate it. And also to all of our allies out there who just appreciate black culture. Happy Black History Month to you, too, baby.

All I'm saying is: WWE, don't forget about us, baby. We love you. Tell us you love us. That's what's up. You know?

Ain't none. I appreciate that. Yeah, as two black hosts of a wrestling podcast, we would be remiss if we didn't acknowledge those who have come before us, those that are happening now, and those that will come after us. Especially the ones that come after, man. Because I had a guy when we were doing the Eisen show in New Orleans, brother came up to me and told me that I'm sure you had something to do with this too.

He just told me that because I was there. He was like, you. Inspired my little brother to do a wrestling podcast. And I was like, What? And he was like, Yeah.

And he goes, He was telling me about it. He goes, There's this guy. And so he goes, So I sent him a clip of your show and he saw me and he was like, That's him. That's him right there.

So I was like, Yo, man, like that. There ain't nothing cooler, man. There's nothing cooler, you know, to get these kids, to get Brockman's son, who's now heavily in the wrestling, to get my boy Bear, who's heavily now in the wrestling. And to think I have like. Just that much to do with it for the next generation of kids that want to love wrestling.

Like, man, this is glorious, man. This is amazing. It's an amazing time. We are enjoying it. We hope you guys have enjoyed this episode of the No Contest Wrestling Podcast wherever you are.

TJ, I know you said it earlier, but I mean, tell them where they can find it. Follow us on Twitter or X at There's No Contest on Instagram at No Contest Wrestling Podcast. I know it's long. It's the only one I could find. All of the videos, including this one, will be on the Rich Eisen Show YouTube channel, as well as Apple, Spotify, Amazon Music.

We're everywhere. If you got an eight-track, we'll probably have something ready to go for that. If you put two cans together with a string, you could probably hear us on that. Yes, thank you guys. We will see you next Wednesday.

We will see you next Wednesday. Wednesday. I just put my grill in. You don't know. And always remember.

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