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Coming up. Pro Football Hall of Famer Joe Thomas. And now, sitting in for Rich, it's Andrew Ceciliano. Hey everybody! Thanks for being here.
I am happy to be here. We are happy that you are here. It is a weekend, it is a holiday weekend. We got golf, we got the U.S. Open, we have the U.S.
men's national team about to continue its quest. For this thing. Which looks like a giant turkey leg, I'll be honest with you. And it looks delicious as we come up after. Towards the noon Pacific time hour, where that game will kick off in Seattle at 3 o'clock Eastern time, the U.S.
men's national team. Against Australia, after a great scene here in Los Angeles yesterday at Los Angeles Stadium, where Switzerland got a win over the team that was not Italy. But I was still there. Only mildly disappointed that it wasn't Italy. But regardless, we're happy to be here and happy that Joe Thomas, the Hall of Famer, is scheduled to join us coming up shortly live from his farm in Wisconsin.
He has a brand new series in which he takes Hall of Famers out to his farm. Jared Allen being the latest. The Hall of Fame experience. Because Joe is a man of the people and a man of the farm and a man of the cattle these days. Yes.
Do you get those at the fair or wherever? Like the giant turkey legs, like wrapped in bacon?
So good. I have.
So good. Have you not? Yeah, no, I have. I'm just wondering if people indulge because they're. It's huge.
It's like Flintstones, Braun Swordsberger. What I is going to be here shortly. He could tell us: are those. Are those roided up birds? Ugh, they have how are they not?
But do they have a farm that's just for the fairs across the country? I've never. I've never thought about it. That's a great question. Because where are they?
Is there like bronosaurus? Yeah, they're just gigantic. They're a foot long. They're killer birds. Yeah.
Like from the boys. Jason, do you have an answer? Oh, yeah. They got a lot of tattoos, a lot of fights, music birds. They're ready to go.
TJ, they're just lifting nonstop. I'm looking it up.
Now, I said the same time as you. I've never even thought about it.
So now I'm going to. Never thought of it. What are you finding? I'm literally typing it up as we speak. Are there Reuted Up Birds for Fair?
Because they do have the Steroid Olympics, where they call the Enhanced Games. Enhanced Games. Right. That's the first time you ever came to me. You just thought I would know that one.
No, I was trying to do something on the show. I'm sorry. I wasn't suggesting that you have. Have experience with Reuted Up Turkeys. It's like, of all things, you could have asked me.
Reuted Up Turkeys, by the way, a great fantasy team name. Very good. Fantastic. Fantasy team name. Pretty good.
U.S. Open update. Let's get that out of the way here. Live from Shinnecock Hills. It is Wyndham Clark.
Mm-hmm. Golf name. Like that is. If you had to rank golf names, Wyndham Clark. It's a good one.
That just screams. I'm a really good golfer. Wyndham Clark, a seven under. With a 64, and then today a 69. He has a four-stroke lead over Matt Fitzpatrick.
who shot a seventy today after a sixty-seven day one. And he is at 3-under par. Xander Shauffley as well at 3-under. He's done for the day, 71 and a 66-day two.
So five better than he was a day ago. Let's get a man on. Who can answer Chris Brockman's question? He's a Hall of Famer. No one would know it would be Joe Thomas.
It would be Joe Thomas. He's a Hall of Famer. Also, Hall of Fame Farms. He's a rancher. He's a cattleman.
He's a turkey hunter. And he joins us now. Live on the Rich Eisen Show. Hi, Joe Thomas. How are you?
Oh. I'm doing amazing. How are you guys? What up, man? We are doing well.
We're doing well. And Brock Minch has had this question. Of randomly out of nowhere, how did we get to it? Uh, you had mentioned turkey legs, turkey legs, yeah. How?
I don't know how we got there. Trophy, so the trophy looks like a turkey leg. Oh, yeah, okay, here's what I said.
So, this FIFA World Cup trophy, like I said, kind of looks like a turkey leg. And Brockman brought up the like county fair massive like dinosaur-sized turkey legs. You've seen them, right? Wrapped in bacon. Oh, yeah.
They're amazing. Actually. When I was in high school, senior year, I went to visit Virginia Tech as one of my visits. The Hokies. But to a game, the Hokies, believe it or not, in their concession stands at that time, they sold a massive turkey leg as the featured entree in their premium concession.
So who knew? Maybe they still do it. Maybe they don't at all. You didn't go to Blacksburg. You went to Madison.
And for those who don't know, the Hokies are fighting gobblers. But Brockman's question was: Joe. Do they have a farm, a ranch, where they roid up turkeys, like dinosaur-sized turkeys? Turkeys, how do they get turkey legs? that big.
That's a great question. I think they would need to do some type of genetic manipulation and cross it with like an emu or an ostrich potentially, and you'd be able to get that same thing.
So, hey, maybe there's a future for Hall of Fame Farms roided up ostrich, emu, turkey things. In. I'm in, silent partner. We're in. We'll do it.
I'll take your money all day. Hall of Fame for Arms, by the way, is amazing. And you guys have gotten the stakes, right? Yes. Yes.
Okay. DJ, yes. I mean, I tried to get the stakes, I think, maybe last time they were out, but I got the jerky. There you go. And it was amazing, Joe.
It was great. And I haven't ordered any more. Definitely. It's amazing stuff. And when you go out to eat with Joe now, like in they come over and they say, hey, and our special of the day is this steak.
Whatever. Joe immediately says, Hey, can you tell me where it's from? Like, what farm was it from? And the waitress has to go back to the kitchen. This happened recently and come back and report.
Oh, okay. And then Joe maybe orders the sick. But the reason, one of the reasons I wanted to have you on today is because you have this new series on your farm. in which you invite Hall of Famers to Hall of Fame Farm. And the first episode.
is hysterical. with Jared Allen. Because of all guys who seemingly know their way around your neck of the woods, so to speak, it's Gerald Allen. And he shows up. to teach you how to lasso.
And you I don't know if you did this on purpose. You threw him off the back of the ATV while he's trying to lasso a steer. Is he okay? Or a baby calf? Is he okay?
He did survive. And the reason we were put in this situation is because he's planning to come out. We're going to film the first episode of the Hall of Fame Experience. As you mentioned, I've got my farm in Wisconsin. We raised Hall of Fame Wagu and Ingus.
Jared Allen grew up on a cutting horse ranch. We're doing a Full Ride Bourbon, which is his new bourbon that he's launching right now, a collaboration with Hall of Fame Farms and Full Ride Bourbon for Father's Day. We're launching it very soon.
So let's do a show. Let's bring him out here. You can be our inaugural episode on YouTube. And he was supposed to bring his horses, which he has a number of them, but he was coming right from his daughter's volleyball tournament somewhere else. And he didn't have time to go to the ranch and hitch up the horses and bring them to Wisconsin.
So he shows up with no horses, but he had a rope.
So when he got in, I said, Well, we have calves to tag, so we're going to have to figure out how to do this. And we allowed a few calves to get. Fairly big. Usually, you try to tag them right when they hit the ground. But well, we wanted to save them and see if we could lasso them with Jared's horses.
So, no horses.
So, I said, Well, do you think we could do it off the back of an ATV? And he said, Well, we might as well try because that's the only way we can find out.
So, Jared starts on the back of the ATV and he's lassoing. And the problem was when he went to throw, he actually got the back leg on the first calf that we drove up on, which was amazing to be able to do that on the back of an ATV for people that don't know. It's not a smooth ride through the cow calf pasture on an ATV versus a horse. It's very bumpy, very tricky. And you've got a guy with bad thumbs trying to hit the thumb throttle and make sure we're keeping a perfect speed next to the calf as it's running next to its mom.
So, he gets the lasso on the back of the leg, and this is my first time doing it, I got no idea, but he. He pulls to tighten the lasso, but when he does it, this athletic Hall of Fame Farms Wagu leaps and jumps through the lasso.
So now the lasso is not on the back of the leg. And so now he thinks it's going to pull tight, right? And he's got to be able to pull the calf legs together. And then we jump off and rope it, but it jumps out of the lasso. And so he flips ass over tea kettle.
And I'm going. And I see, and all of a sudden I feel that everything behind me is getting lighter. And I look around and there's Jared laying on his back. And I go, oh, God, we got our first insurance liability claim on the very first episode of the Hall of Fame experience. This is not going to be good if I break the leg of my Hall of Famer.
I'm supposed to be showing a wonderful Hall of Fame experience on the farm too.
So it didn't start well, but thank God the man is a man of steel and he was no worse for the wear he got up and we're able to continue the episode with many more roping opportunities. It's great stuff talking to all of Amber Joe Thomas. And I did not know this, Joe. And you seemingly were surprised as well. Jared Allen opens up, like, he brought all these different kinds.
of lassoes Like right out of the box. Yeah, the look on your face. Like, so there are different. What like Density of cord or length of lasso? Like, what's going on here?
So, I was a shot-put discus thrower in high school, college, and you know, you've got your custom shots and discs that have the disc has different weights and different materials. You know, sometimes for different conditions, you got wind, you got no wind. You're, you know, trying to do certain things with how it fits, just like a golf club to your personal swing. Who knew? But apparently roping lassals are the same way because he showed up with like a branded case.
You know, bowling's big in Wisconsin. And, you know, like the fancy bowlers that are rolling 500s and getting paid, you know, at least tens of dollars as professional bowlers in Wisconsin, they've got the fancy bowling cases.
So Jared Allen's got his roping case and he's talking about this one's a little bit heavier if you're trying to do this. And this one's more stiff and this one's a little bit looser. And he's got all these situations. And I'm just sitting there like, Jared, as long as you got a rope, that's all we need because really, I'm not going to be roping any calves. I'm going to try my best, but there's no chance of success anyway.
So you can just leave the rest of them in the bag. Maybe we'll talk about it later at a different point. Uh it's great stuff, man. I I'm not just saying that. Like Because it's you.
Like, I laughed. And Jared Allen's the perfect guest. Who are you looking for? uh the next guy up or who else is doing the series.
So we had Jared and then we had Barstool Sports out. Chef Donnie of the great Barstool Sports Cooking shows that he's got down there. And then K Dick, who is their college and pro football expert. He's an offensive lineman from Indiana.
So those guys came up for two days. And the cool thing about Hall of Fame experience and what we're doing with the YouTube is first episode with Jared was a little bit more about just introducing you to the farm, introducing you to some of the characters, some of the cattlemen, herdsmen that work out here with me. And then each episode with the guests is going to cater to what the guest wants to do, the things that they like to lean into.
So Barstool Sports and that experience is going to be totally different. Obviously, those guys are hilarious. Chef Donnie is an incredible cook. We got him cooking over an open fire up at a campsite that we set up up in the woods. A beautiful setting.
We had an incredible night with them, especially the best part was cameras turned off, everybody left. It was just the three of us sitting around the fire drinking beer, having laughs, listening to the coyotes howl and the owls hooting in the trees. And it was just really. Really, really fun because of how different and the contrast between we got our roping cattleman Jared Allen here, and then we got our goofy, more funny, chefy, more food-based show here with Parschool Sports. And we got Midwest comedian Charlie Barrens.
We filmed with him last week.
So we've got a few in the can that we're putting together, we're editing and getting ready to release over the next couple weeks. And then we've got unbelievable guests scheduled for the rest of the summer between chefs and musicians and more Hall of Famers and entertainers. And it's been just a lot of fun for me to be able to show people my life, what I've done transferring from the football field now to the farming field and raising cattle and learning this entire business myself, raising the cattle and then now selling Hall of Fame Wagyu beef on the other end. It's been amazing and bringing fans and NFL fans and people throughout the country that are interested in farming, interested in all these amazing Hall of Famers, these musicians, these entertainers, and seeing them experience farming. Life for the first time.
It's just been a joy for me. Even if we didn't do any filming, if we weren't putting anything on our YouTube page. And the YouTube page is, and I have it up here, it's Hall of Fame Farms. Hall of Fame Farms, and it's not just the stuff on the farm, like you're hanging out with Jacob Mizurowski as well and some of the brewers, Ryan Braun, which is kind of cool. Can we talk about football here for a second?
All right, so. For those who don't know, and Joe obviously does, I do the play-by-play for the Browns, and Joe is there with our good friend and amazing broadcaster in his own right, Chris Rose, doing the preseason TV for your Cleveland Browns locally. We have three games this year, one of which, by the way, well, of course, there are three games in the preseason, but only two for you guys because one of them is going to be an Amazon Prime game. Browns and your Patriots, week three of the preseason, a primetime affair. Joe Brockman asked me earlier.
Who starts more games this year? Deshaun or Shador. You want to take a swing at that? That's obviously the question everybody in Cleveland is looking to find the answer to. I think.
Coming out of the offseason, it seems like Deshaun Watson is probably going to be the guy going into training camp as the starter. He looks pretty healthy coming off that Achilles tear that he had. And I think the experience that he has playing football, the arm looks like it's still there. The legs look like they've come back. And that's one thing Shadur doesn't exactly bring you right now: the ability to scramble.
He's not. Exceptional at using his legs to get a first down, although he is very good at scrambling to make plays to be able to throw the football. I think Deshaun right now just gives that offense a little bit more versatility to be able to open things up and be more dynamic. Um and I think he'll probably be the guy if I had to bet. Who's going to start more games this season for the Browns?
It would be Deshaun. It's funny. I went the other way, and I don't know that. We know, and I don't know that Todd Munkin knows. I don't know that there is a right answer here.
I I think eventually you got to get to a point where, and listen, they may win games with Deshaun. The defense is how good? Like, can they actually be carry a team good? And the last two years, As good as they were, the offense was only scoring 16 points a game, so no defense is that good. Um Eventually, you have to turn to the younger guy because the younger, the core now is so young.
But if Deshaun plays well, to your point, let's say he wins the job and he plays well. You're not going to venture them just for the sake of youth.
So it's can he win the job, and how well can he actually play? And being out there last week for Minicamp, look, they both at times look really good. For both of them, it it just comes down to consistency. And you know this, like they're in pajamas. It's not, it's a glorified passing camp, it's mini-camp.
They're in shorts. Like there are no pads. Like, can you You can get a feel, I think, for quarterback play. But you can't get a feel for the line. You can't get a feel.
For what that defense is truly doing against you until you get to. to camp. And I think people were Upset because Todd Munkin had kind of said that I want to have my guy in place at the end of minicamp. But there's no game on Ju on June 11th. Like don't don't you think healthy competition is a good thing for training camp, even if it's at quarterback.
Yeah, definitely competition is always a good thing. I think Todd's words were more to the line of: we want to have a clear starter going in, so we know how reps are going to be split up. To begin training camp so that all the guys that are going to be working around him, they know who the person is that is going to be under center that they're going to work with. They know the guy that's going to be calling the plays. The receivers have a chance to get ready and prepared for working with Deshaun.
Because I think it is good knowing At that position, at least, what the depth chart looks like. And that's not to say it doesn't change in week two, week three, week four, or as they play preseason games. But I think just having some certainty, so it's not a question that everybody's getting asked every single week. And that's the challenge for those other positions, right? Because when you're a receiver, when you're a tackle, when you're a running back.
You want to focus on getting yourself better and being the best version of yourself so you can help your teammates. And if everybody's always asking you who's looking better, who's number one, who's taking more reps, what's going on at the quarterback position, it just puts an extra layer of burden on you as you're trying to figure out your fit within that offense. And so, I think Todd just wanted to be able to say, Hey, we're going to name who's first, who's second. We'll split up the reps, give everybody certainty, and then the competition happens within that structure, which I think gives everybody just a little bit more calm and stability in training camp where their meat of the work for the season prep is going to happen. Because, as you mentioned, those guys are out there in pajamas right now, they're not even allowed to get close and sniff each other anymore.
At least when I was playing, we would wear pajamas, but we actually hit each other.
So, I actually would rather wear shoulder pads back when we used to do OTAs and mini camps because at least my shoulders are protected because the contact was the same.
So, it's a lot different. Training camp is where you're getting all your work, and I think the rest of that team. Deserves to know who's first, who's second right now, and then they can split the reps up where Shadur is going to get probably some of those first-team reps to give him an opportunity to work with that first offense. And then they can find out with true competition who's looking the best. And then maybe after a week or two, they might make a switch depending on how those guys are both playing.
Talking to a great Joe Thomas, the Hall of Famer Joe Thomas, by the way, I just texted you accidentally. I meant to text Brockman. My apologies if that makes sense. Hopefully, it's not sure. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, nothing like that.
But if you look at your phone later and go, what is he talking about? It meant for Brockman. My apologies. But let's go there actually because he and I were discussing something else. In your backyard in the NFC North, you're in Wisconsin, so we'll go, we'll call the NFC North your backyard.
The other, I guess you could say, real competition, there are other quarterback questions like can Paddocks get back and what does Kevin do with. With both panics and two, if they're both healthy. Who knows? But in Minnesota, there's a competition like there is in Cleveland. I would say it's got to be Kyler because you don't go out and get Kyler.
to put him behind J.J. McCarthy. But if you're a veteran piece on that team and they went out last year and spent money. Right, on the offensive line. They tried to make it work last year with a rookie quarterback.
You see Justin Jefferson say, oh, yeah, Kyler in practice. Obviously, he's picking up the offense and that's a process, but you can see how he throws guys open. Don't you think the veterans on that team Want to see Kyler Murray. Kind of regardless of what he does in the preseason. Like, we've seen JJ love the kid, but let's just go here to see if it works.
The Vikings spent a first-round draft choice on J.J. McCarthy, the quarterback. They were gonna give him every opportunity to win that starting job. You basically give the starting job to that rookie quarterback when you take him in the first round. And when you admit the mistake and go out and get somebody and you spend the type of resources that they did to bring in Kyler Murray, he is your starter.
And you're doing that because the guys around him, you're important receivers, you're players that you're counting on to make plays that are started and. Provided by the quarterback, those are the guys that don't trust JJ, and that's why you make the switch. And so, if you look at that situation, JJ, I think, will firmly be planted as the backup. And that's not to say that he doesn't have a chance to continue to develop and then win the job at some point. Far down the line, but right now it's clearly Kyler Murray's job.
Yeah, and I want to see what it looks like. I want to see where Kyler Murray and Kevin O'Connell can cook up. I want to see Kyler. It was not all his fault. The last couple of years in Arizona, clearly, but he has taken a team to the postseason.
It was many years ago. It ended in 2021 in LA when they lost to the Rams and Kyler finished that game on the bench. That's a whole nother story. Didn't go back out there. But The guy was a number one overall pick.
He does have talent. He is at the end of a contract, a contract that somebody else is playing, they're paying. I want to see him. Go out there. and do his thing.
Look, Andrew, remember, we were doing Thursday night football. We were in Arizona. They were playing the Packers. And I remember in our pre-production meeting, we were talking about: is Kyler Murray the front runner to win the NFL MVP? And I said yes at that point, and they won that game.
Green Bay was undefeated at that point, and the Cardinals beat him. Beat him, he looked great. I mean, he's had really, really awesome stretches where he played as one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. And I guarantee, with Kevin O'Connell being one of the best offensive minds in the NFL, he is licking his chops to be able to build an offense around Kyler to see if he can unlock that talent that he has, that he's played with and up to at certain long stretches during his career. And then, with Kevin O'Connell, who's one of the calmest coaches in the NFL, to be able to use that calm demeanor that he has to teach consistency and process with Kyler so that those rough stretches are eliminated and smoothed out.
And they believe that he can be a Pro Bowl, he can be a great top-five quarterback in the NFL. And so I'm excited to see if they can make that happen. I mean, that's one of the great storylines that we have going into this NFL season because I think people have seen what Kevin O'Connell has done with sometimes less than amazing quarterback play and what he did with Sam Darnold to be able to turn him and revitalize his career. And they want to see if he can do it again with Kyler Murray. By the way, I'm wrong.
I totally reversed it. It was the Cardinals who were undefeated. With Kyler. That's why we were having the MVP conversation. And Aaron Rodgers and the Packers came to town.
And beat them because Kyler, there's a miscommunication on the end of the game throw in the end zone. We were standing right there. And then Aaron tested positive for COVID. And missed the following week, and then Jordan Love made his start. All right, it's all coming back together.
Um You're brilliant. I remember nothing. I have Google. I'm thinking about paddle in my head right now, calving numbers. I got to go tag a couple calves after this.
So I'm glad you refreshed my memory. You're the only person who's ever ended his talk on the show by saying I have to go tag some calves. And you're not talking about doing gym stuff. You're actually going to go out there. No, no, no.
We actually, I've got five local high school kids that work for me as interns in the summer, and they're not huge men. Muscaday, Wisconsin, somehow didn't get the big German jeans like Milwaukee did, where I'm from. And so we have a massive bull calf that. Had an ear tag when it was born. It ripped out.
And now it's like two or three weeks. And this thing is the size of Sean Rogers at his peak. It's like 360. Oh, my God. They can't tackle him.
And so they're calling in the reliever. They're bringing in the lefty to see if I can come in and tackle him. He'll distract mama so we can get a new ear tag in him. I'm actually kind of looking forward to it. Oh, my God.
You have officially lost me at ear tag. That's Joe, where I tap out because it's too close to home and you're scaring me. But I love you. And people should go to hallofamefarms.com and check out the hall of fame farms YouTube page as well. The Hall of Fame Farms experience, the new one up, the only one up, the first one up with Jared Allen.
is good stuff. Bring some of that beef. to Berea, and I'll see you in a couple of weeks, my friend. We'll see and make sure I get everybody's information so I can get you guys some of that Hall of Fame wagyu beef, some of our Hall of Fame turkey. I'm on the way because we're back in stock, baby.
Yeah, baby. We're rocking and rolling.
Well, it. We will connect everybody. Come on. Thank you, sir. Thank you.
The Hall of Favor. The great one. Joe Thomas. Yes. I need steroid turkey legs.
Yeah. As my friends Nathan Zagur and Bo Bishop and Jason Gibbs and our entire Gabe Clor crew there with the Browns behind the scenes call him just the Hoff. No one calls him Joe, just the Hoff. Hey, is the Hoff coming? What time is the Hoff getting here?
Like, that's it. He's the Hoff. That's it. Awesome.
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Just kidding. No, well-deserved break. Absolutely. The phone number here is 844-204-Rich. Hit it.
844-204-RICH. Want to thank Joe Thomas. Fun story. Real quick, do you mute most of your group chats that you have, like, you know, text? Nah, not really.
Yeah. Because you get what I'm saying, TJ. Like, there comes a point where there are too many people in the group. I care what people say. They're going off.
Right. I just don't need it constantly buzzing or ringing or like you, you got to turn them off, right? It's a big thing here. I'd never participate in the group chain.
Okay. And they can't understand it. I'm like, because I looked at my phone, there's 55 texts. I don't know.
Okay. So, along those lines, like I generally mute mine. I was just added to one today. My buddy invited me. He's got a table at a bar down the street to watch the game.
He had invited me. And then I get a group text today. There are honest to goodness 14 people on this chain. He evidently invited all of them. I only know him.
And I'm like, immediately mute. But.
So I'm on one with Joe, who is just on, obviously, and it's a bunch of us that work with the Browns. And that is one of the few that I don't have muted. We're not that active. We text plenty, but it's the offseason as well. And Joe texted everybody how excited he was.
that he finished up the Jared Allen thing yesterday. But like they finally posted it on YouTube. And he joked. Because I Cleveland Browns Daily, the show that the Browns do in house, I don't think there's a show today. And he joked, hey, I'll come on the show tomorrow.
Like, there is no show, right? And I was like. Hey, actually, well, I am doing a show. What do you say? It's like, oh, yeah, absolutely.
Let's go. Let's go. So it's the one time is my point as I eventually get to the point. We're a group text.
Alright. It was great. How many people is too many for a group chat? Once you get past five, it's tough. Oh, I think.
Five. My fantasy football one, there's 11. Oh, God, there's nothing worse than a fantasy football group text. Good gosh, almighty. Ours is fine.
Shut everyone up, please. Until, I mean, it does get to a point. Like, stop. But overall, he's pretty cool on it.
So, yeah. Guys talking smack. I can't believe. He played Peyton Manning today. He has to play Peyton Manning.
Peyton had a bad game. He didn't do anything. There's there's there's no reason to get angry at him. Anyway, I digress. Let's go to the phones.
Because William has been waiting and holding patiently eight through four. 204 Rich. Hello, William. Hello. Hello.
Hello. Hello. Before we get to this win-loss game, I have two points I'd like to make real quick. Brockman, congratulations on your impending wedding. Thank you.
Thank you, William. And I take umbrage with what she said about Lumen Field. No disrespect. to the Seahawks and their fans. But On September twenty ninth, twenty fourteen.
I was at this game. Um the Kansas City Chiefs, the Arrowhead Stadium became the loudest sports stadium in the world, one four point two decibels when we defeated the Patriots forty one to fourteen. Just want to remind you about that.
So noted, Kansas City also quite loud. Yeah. Yeah. I like Seattle, downtown atmosphere, gray skies. Not that the sun is always shining in Kansas City.
But, William, you make a fair point.
Well, I'm ready to get started on this win-loss game. Go. Oh, so what you got to do, Andrew? Oh, okay. Oh, God.
I see.
Okay. You got to give him the manual. I do here. Thank you. Yes, Andrew.
Hey, this is when a producer, director gets in your ear and goes, Hey, read what's on the screen. Read the schedule. You say week one or whatever. Here we go. Week one, Monday night, Denver.
We're gonna win that one.
Okay, hold on, I'm gonna read this one. Uh week two, uh Indianapolis at home. Mm-hmm. Go in that one.
Okay. Week three at Miami. When?
Okay, it's going to be hot in Miami on September 27th, by the way.
So we're 3-0. Week 4, it'll be hot in Vegas, but you'll be indoors on the road in Vegas. Win. I sense a trend. Week five is a buy.
I assume that's a win.
Okay. Yeah. Okay, week six at home for the Chargers. I'm going to win that one.
Okay. Week seven on the road at Lumen Field, Seattle. I think we lose that one. Oh, wow.
Okay. So I wasn't even ranking on you saying that. Four.
So we're five and one right now.
Okay, uh week six at Denver. For seven. We're going to leave that one. That's eight, actually.
Okay, so two losses in a row. Week nine against Rich's Jets at home. And we're gonna win that.
Okay. At Atlanta, week 10. This is riveting week 11 at Arizona at home. When?
12 at Buffalo on a Thursday short week. We never beat them in the regular season loss. That's true.
Okay, that's Thanksgiving, by the way, as well.
So that's eight and three.
Okay. Week 13, another Thursday.
So back to back, you are at the Rams here at Los Angeles Stadium. Lose. They're not going to lose it. The Rams are going to lose a single game this season.
Okay. I think they might lose one. At Cincinnati week 14. Uh win. Two wins.
Okay. At the Chargers, week seventeen. Win. And then you close at home with Fernando Mendoza and the Raiders. Oh.
Win. He's not starting week 18. He said win. Win. So we got 13 and 4.
Yep. Yeah, I'm looking forward to making the Super Bowl and losing to the Rams.
Okay. Wow. William, I wouldn't mind if the Rams win a Super Bowl. I would mind as a Browns fan, granted, because then you're getting picked 32. But but somebody that still wishes success to the Result?
I wouldn't mind if they want. William, enjoy your weekend, sir. I thank you. Thank you, you too, to all of you. Thank you.
See you, William. William. He said the Rams undefeated. That's what he said. He did say that.
I don't buy that. I don't know that anybody will go undefeated. I think the Rams are. By far, the leader in the clubhouse to win the Super Bowl. I think they were before.
Then they went against Miles Garrett. Yeah. He's good. He's tall. He's like a Marvel character.
He sure is. I mean, he is built in a lab. Did you see the Kyle Hamilton NFL 100 thing? No. Kyle Hamilton, the Raven Safe Dude, is on the NFL Top 100.
That's about to drop. They're bringing that back, off-season programming at NFL Network, always good stuff. And there's a quote in there from Kyle Hamilton. He's on camera talking about Miles Garrett. And he basically says: if the aliens attack Earth and they say, bring us your best human to defend the planet, we would offer them Miles Garrett.
I think that's a like, this is our best human to defend the planet. Here. I'm good with that. And then, and then hope the aliens will back down. Basically, is what he says.
Putting words in his mouth and paraphrasing, kind of sort of. what he says. All right, coming up, two things. There are six quarterbacks Questions and/or competitions in the NFL. In other words, we don't know who would play week one as we sit here today.
What are those six? And is there a seventh? And how old is Sauce Gardiner? That's not a trick question. Or maybe it is.
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The Rich Heisen Show, the podcast. We're back on the Rich Eisen Show just talking about this thing where Sauce Gardner says he's 24 and all the websites say he's 25. He finds it funny. He says, My passport, my driver's license. Look, guys, look, really, I'm 24.
He's laughing about it. But we compared it to an NBA story. It's in the athletic here where Buddy healed a couple of years ago when he was with the Kings. He threw a 26th birthday party, like everyone could see, like at the party, 26th. And like the Kings and NBA.com have him at 25.
He's like, it's not my fault. I'm inclined to believe the NFL. Why would Sauce Gardner lie about his age? I mean, why does anyone lie about their age? Obviously.
Danny Almonte, line one. Because people lie about their age. Right? It happens. Why an NFL player who's been in the league who already has his second contract?
Yeah. I don't think he's lying. I think it's a mix-up, probably something off a college website from years ago. It looks like a mix-up. Mm, I don't know.
A lot of people go to great depths to find out all of the information about you. Yeah. They know everything. Right. They do and they don't.
They don't know all that. They do. They know that you broke your foot in fifth grade. The football department does, but does the SID? I'll give you an example.
Like there are a lot of college football websites, like the official site. for the school. Uh that the Sports Information Department updates. The same SID that gives you the game notes and compiles the official stats and records for the team and the history of the team that don't list players' ages.
So therefore, for years with the NFL, And when I was at NFL Network, when we would prepare for the combine. And you'd be going through looking at players, there would be a question: how old is this guy? And normally, the great research staff over there, by the time we would get to the combine, now like Rich and Daniel Jeremiah. And Charles Davis, they would get, and we would all get, a packet with the real dates. But The research department has to do some digging.
Because a lot of the schools simply don't. Listen birth dates.
Now. Does the NFL look at birth certificates? I don't think they care enough to do that. Is there at the medical check in some kind of examination of documents? I don't know that they care to do that.
When I join a team, I would have to think employment contract. Like HR documents, health insurance, a lot of that goes through the union as well. Like, you would have to think, though, with. the team that they would have to Show you something. Right?
I don't know that matters. What does it really matter? I believe him. It doesn't really matter. He finds it funny.
All right, let's run through because I've teased this. Mini camps are over. Like everyone's done. Yesterday was really the last day of football. Yeah, summer's here.
Summer is here. You cannot get the phone answered in any NFL building between now. and really the third week of July. It's over. Right.
Do not disturb.
Next up. Training camp.
So I was going through the list. I think as we sit here today, there are six teams where we legitimately do not know who's going to play week one. At quarterback, that is. The two teams with legit competitions are the Browns and the Vikings. We discussed those earlier with Joe Thomas.
I think Arizona, while you have Jacoby Brissett and Gardner Minshew there, I think the Cardinals are in the running for the number one overall pick. If I'm I play Carson Beck. He's got to win the job. Or maybe the other two have to lose the job, but I'm for him winning the job. I think that is number three.
Numbers Number four would be in Atlanta. Where Tua is likely the guy, Michael Pennix may or may not be ready for camp and then training camp, but how much can he really do? I don't know.
Is he going to be healthy enough? Where the Falcons say we are truly comfortable with making this a legit competition as opposed to we're bringing Michael along. When he's ready, we'll tell you he's ready. Oh, he's out there doing 11 on 11. Eh, he's not ready yet.
But I think there's a legitimate question there. With the Falcons. And then there are two more teams, and these are also injury-related. Mahomes says he'll be ready week one. Curious to see how much he's limping around, if at all, at the big wedding coming up in a couple of weeks.
If there is a wedding, I don't know. And in Indianapolis. Is Daniel Jones truly, truly, truly going to be ready to play the kind of mobile football that you want from him. Week number one. I don't know.
To me, those are the six.
However, Brockman. Because you mentioned the Raiders earlier. I will grant That could be a fair number seven. The Raiders are adamant. This is Kirk Cousins' job.
We're going to bring Fernando Mendoza around and along slowly. We don't want to force him in there. Brady waited. Brady obviously has a hand in this. Brady learned on the bench behind Drew Bledsoe.
We're going to do the same thing.
However, we have all seen this movie before. That's an awkward-looking shot. We've all seen this movie before. And that is hot shot rookie quarterback gets in there, lights it up in the preseason. All the screaming heads go on the television, and they tell you you got to play this guy.
Fans listen. Quoach looks in the mirror and goes, man. I don't know.
I don't know.
May as well play the kid. And you do it. I don't think that's going to happen. But it would not stun me. Yeah, right at you.
I mean, yeah, I thought you were going to keep talking. No, no. Uh I think. Yeah, I I think he kind of nailed it. I'm wondering, first off, uh, Patrick Mahomes is yet the RSVP for my wedding, so I'm not sure what um.
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Important. A FIFA. I think a couple of these are just kind of competitions in name and name only. Like, I think it's kind of a lock that Kyler and Tua start. Um I do as well.
And, you know, I think Arizona is probably a true competition, and I think Cleveland's probably a true competition. Oh, it is. It is a leader. And then, you know, Kirk Cousins, I would expect him to start. It feels like a kind of a Drake May situation there in Las Vegas, where, yeah, you could probably start the kid week one, but the schedule is so hard the first six weeks or so.
What's the point in letting the kid get destroyed behind, you know, not a great offensive line and really good teams you're playing against?
So let Kirk Cousins go out there. And, you know, if he gets banged up, it's fine. If he wins some games, great. But that's kind of how I'm reading all these. I've talked to enough people around the league that say.
No matter how well Mendoza plays in the preseason, if he does. Is that Clint Kubiak. Is not the kind of coach who would go back on a word. To Kirk Cousins, that you're going to play at least to start.
So they think that is going to happen. But.
We'll see. Hey, have a great weekend, everybody.
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