Are roll batteries the same? Yeah. That's like asking if all soccer players are the same. Take Messi, the most decorated player ever. Is there any other player who has achieved that?
No, just him.
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Now, on with the show. This is the Rich Eisen Show. With guest host, Andrew Ciciliano from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Earlier on the show, senior baseball writer for the athletic, Tyler Kepner. Coming up, longtime golf writer, Alan Schipnock, Pro Football Hall of Famer, Joe Thomas.
And now, sitting in for Rich, it's Andrew Ceciliano. who is happy to be here and flattered that my name is actually in the open. With a voice professional. Thank you for being here, friends. It is a Friday.
Rich is taking a well-deserved long weekend. We are just working for the weekend and happy that there is golf to watch this weekend and soccer to watch, not only all weekend. But today as well, Team USA kicking off at noon. Use take two. U.S.
men's national team. Let's get that right.
Okay. Get it right. Get it right. Not NFL Hall of Famer, Pro Football Hall of Famer. Pro football, yeah.
Yes. Notice I said that yesterday. There is no NFL Hall of Fame. There is no NFL Hall of Fame. I I although I I get into debates with people.
They go, no, no, no, it is right. He's in the NFL and he's in the Hall of Fame. He's in NFL. Hall of Fame. That's not what it's about.
That's not right. Either way, we have a lot of good stuff, including U.S. Men's National.
Soccer team, right? About to kick off noon at Seattle Stadium. Seattle Stadium. Also, Rich is going to be gone next week, too. He's gone all next week.
Well, you're going to be here next week. I'm here Tuesday. Yes. I'm going to think he was coming back. I didn't know if he was coming back Monday to take a Tuesday off to go film This Was Sports Set.
I don't know the man's travel schedule. I don't have like. I can't follow him. There's no pin. Yeah, I mean, you wouldn't know.
No, I wouldn't know. You wouldn't know, but yeah, we're just clarifying for everyone.
Next week, Kirk Morrison is here Monday. You're here Tuesday. Yes. Tom Pellicero. No way.
Stay in Thursday. We're off Friday.
Okay. That's the next week's schedule. Utterly fancy. Great. Tom's here.
He said Tom.
Okay, so Rich is off next week. Follow him out of here to know where he is. I don't know when I'm here. Get ready for food pictures. What, from Rich?
Yeah, not you. Yeah, I'm going to do food pictures. When he goes on vacation, he very much does food pictures. No, no, no, no, no. He does a lot of these.
Well, yeah, he does that. There's a lot of those too, but there are. There's food pictures. He used to do a lot of food pictures, but then I really shamed him. Broccoli kind of shamed him, so we cut it down by at least 50%.
What's wrong with you? You're a grown man. Nobody cares what you're eating.
Okay. Now, let me say this. You guys are saying Chris hates. I don't do a lot of food pictures. I will do like.
It won't be I am at this. Look at that a Michelin restaurant.
Sometime Like, for don't change your thought on for, like, mind-blowing mood experience. Like, perfect example.
Okay, I was in Seoul a couple of weeks ago. Seoul? Korea. Yes, I was Seoul Search. And I was in the market.
The name escapes me. Did you ever watch the show Street Food Asia on Netflix? No.
Okay. Great show. Instead of going to... Three-star Michelin restaurant or three Michelin star restaurants, they find these. Uh street food stalls.
That have been run by these people for years. That actually, some of them actually do a Michelin stars, but they are just mind-blowing. And it's an old lady in a market and you're eating on a plastic chair, right? Like, so those are the kind of places I went to. And yeah, I took some food pictures at the market in Seoul because the lady from Street Food Asia, I sat at her stand and had the knife-cut noodles, and it was amazing.
That kind of stuff all too. That's fine.
Okay. I don't need to see everything you eat for a whole week.
Okay. You also have a much cleaner. No.
Del Tufo treatment. What an aggressive shot across the bow. If you're that unhappy with me, you know, just say, I just usually scroll by things that I don't like. Right. I guess I could just skip on the stories.
I did just straight up unfollow Del Tufo. Wait a minute. But he still has all the Russian bots following him. It's not like he noticed they were gone. He's at like 80,000 followers.
I don't know people who follow him. His entire account is him like riding on his electric bike or in a boat. Going like Or it's like the soundboard at Fox. No one knows what all those buttons do. What does this one do?
What does this one do? This one makes Slatan say something funny. I know, like four of them, but that's about it.
Okay, speaking of Zlatan, all right, he's been awesome on the broadcast, he's been amazing, like bodybuilding Alexei Lalis was incredible. Everybody knew he was going to be amazing. Yeah, he is, and for those who don't know, I can't remember the name of the character, but you guys do watch Ted Lasso, right? He was. The guy that they modeled was nothing but one-liners.
That is Latin. They literally made it him. Yeah. Okay, and you're you're you're seeing. That play out.
Okay, I hold in my hand the actual FIFA World Cup Championship trophy. Or at least a reasonable facsimile. I think Del Tufo found a lot of people. Actual being the word. This is not the real thing.
But Team USA, right now, I think we collectively as a soccer public. We have Soccer muscles. For lack of a better description, we're feeling ourselves, which is cool. I think it's great. I am not going to be the person that tells you every four years, this is the year.
That America truly wraps its arm around the game, and all of a sudden the demographics of the game change, and that everyone starts playing soccer, and every little kid drops baseball, and football, and anything else, volleyball getting big now, and play soccer. I'm not going to do that. It is gradual, it takes its time. Obviously, we've seen an explosion.
Okay. We've seen an increase in popularity certainly for the MLS, and a lot of that has to do with Messi. There are rumors maybe Ronaldo's going to come to town too and play in LA when he's done. Just telling you, that's the word on the street, maybe. He's forty-one.
You never know. Um Soccer's a big deal. I know so many people these days that are massive EPL fans. They get up early on weekends, very early, especially here on the West Coast where we live to watch their favorite EPL team.
Soccer's awesome. I'm not gonna tell you. that I am here to break down. The attack. the counters, the defensive structure.
For the U.S. men's national team, I'm not. I just can't, but I'm gonna get behind it. And that's what we all collectively are doing. And after going to the game yesterday at Los Angeles Stadium.
to see Switzerland get a huge win. Um they were the better team clearly No, it's not fair to say that I was rooting for Switzerland because Bosnia-Herzegovina knocked out Italy. Yeah, actually it is. And We after going to that game. I know that these tickets are beyond the price point.
of the average American sports fan. I'm just telling you, if you have the chance to get to a game. Get to a game. Because it is that cool. It truly is.
It is a once every four-year event. We know this. But The national pride and the energy and the electricity in the building, not just for like Mexico and South Korea last night in Monterey, obviously a home game there for the Mexican team. And South Korea now losing, coming here to LA, where they're probably going to play a home game as well. knowing the demographics of our great town.
Yeah. It's cool, man. It is so Cool. And yeah, I am going to be the guy that after this show ends today, noon. Pacific Three Eastern.
I am gonna be the guy. That goes and runs to a bar and meets up with friends. Brockman, you're coming. You guys are all coming. You want to go?
Let's go watch the game. And scream and yell like I know what I'm talking about. Exactly. And I don't. Nope.
For you to admit it. Happy to admit it, actually. Because this right here I'm told. is the actual trophy. It is.
All right, quick US Open update, then let's do what's more likely. Yeah, U.S. Open the Chinook Hills right now. Wyndham Clark gave a shot back, but he still has a three-shot lead. Six under par for Wyndham as he sits on the 18th hole right now.
Matt Fitzpatrick, your clubhouse leader, he was even par today, sits at three under after a 67 yesterday and a 70 today. Xander Chaffee also sits at three under par. He's got a couple of holes left. Colin Morakawa had the best round of the day. Five under par to get him at two under for the tournament, and some heavy hitters still to tee off.
Roy McElroy, Ludvik Oberg, Major Champ Brian Harmon, all still to tee off here. It's going to be a beautiful Friday in the Hamptons. Bryson DeChambo. Threatening to miss another major, he's at five. Over par.
Oh no. Oh no. Good news is, if you miss the cut, you're in the Hamptons. There are worse places to get a nice weekend at spend a weekend. What's more likely?
Bryson would like a weekend off in the Hamptons. Or a third US Open? All right, let's do it. Let's do it. What?
What's more likely? Never say never, but never. Hey guys, happy Friday. Hey. Happy Friday.
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That's awesome. What year is this coming up for you? Three? This will be my third full season. Yes.
Phenomenal. Who's more likely to start more games this season for the Browns at quarterback? Deshaun Watson or Shador Sanders? That is a great question. I'm gonna say because one guy is younger and there is certainly an eye on the future.
I think they both do start games this year. For the sake of this Friday, June 19th radio bit. I will say Shador Sanders will Start more games this coming season. It is a difficult schedule to begin the year. The Browns, technically, on paper, have the quote-unquote easiest schedule to open the season right now, but that is based on last year's win-loss percentage, not taking into account the draft and trades and free agency and coaches getting hired and fired.
usually actually the other way around fired and then hired So the Browns have to open. Do you know how they open back-to-back games in Florida? at Jacksonville and at Tampa. Interest back to back. Not good.
The Browns only play five teams. They have five games this year against teams that made the playoffs a year ago, and two of those five are against the Steelers.
However, four of those five happen in the first five weeks of the season.
So it is not. An easy road out the gate. If you had to get an answer from me right now, it would be the man who now wears number. Two, his college number. Week one starter?
I don't know. Honestly do not know. And I'm not trying to hedge here. I really don't know. A couple of weeks ago, I would have said to Sean: I now think Shador.
Has more of a shot than I did a couple of weeks ago, but it is a legitimate. Competition where truly either guy could win, and neither guy winning would surprise me. This is fun, TJ. We've been talking a lot about these two teams this offseason. Rich did a top 10 offenses heading into next year.
Who's more likely to have the better offense in 2026, guys? Bears or cowboys. Bears or Cowboys better offense. I'm going to say the Chicago Bears of Chicago. I don't know why.
I just the Cowboys over the years have had trouble staying healthy offensively. Every time I think, and I know that they won back-to-back 12, you know, they had back-to-back 12 win seasons with Mike McCarthy. People think Mike McCarthy was a failure there. He was not. Obviously, in the regular season, he was not.
This team has put up points clearly. My gut tells me that year two, Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams, will make beautiful music. TJ? I mean You already know what my answer is. No, I don't know your answer.
That's why we're asking. I think the Cowboys.
Okay. What would it take for you to pick the Bears? Nothing. Nothing. Okay, that's my point.
I think I have a purpose on this show. It's not to give, you know, tremendous breakdowns. Do you ever break hair? I'm a super fan. Oh, yeah.
Like, I keep it real most of the time, these guys will tell you. But I just feel like our offense is great. Brockmans isn't. We've got the best wide receiver duo. I agree.
You okay at left tackle? I think that's. I think so. I think more importantly, Andrew, we don't have to. Our defense stuck last year, right?
I think that's safe, putting it mildly. There was an odor. Yeah, so we don't have to be the best defense in football. We just. don't have to stink this year.
And we're going to be good.
So, yeah, that. That means that the offense will get more time with the football, in my opinion. Yeah. I think Cowboys. But we don't have to put up as many points.
Cowboys win the East, I think. This just in the east isn't that good. Agreed. Guys, how about this one? A rookie quarterback more likely to start more games this year?
Fernando Mendoza or Brendan Soursby. Oh, really? Really? Yeah. So what's more like I've been told Fernando Mendoza might sit the whole season.
He's not going to. No way. But I do think I don't, I'd be surprised if Brendan Soursby starts a game this year at the end of the year. A game. A game.
Really? A game. You think he's gonna get suspended? I do think there will be some kind of suspension. That really hasn't been the precedent.
You're. No, it has been.
Well, Kayshawn Booty didn't get suspended.
Okay, that's fine. Terrell Pryor did. Others have. I think the NFL is in a really difficult position right here. Really difficult position.
Because you have a guy who, for all intents and purposes, has been banned. from college football. Basically. Banned. And now He's gonna go, and this is a difficult precedent to set.
And the NFL is in a tough position here because they're fighting Jeffrey Kessler. a guy that knows where the bodies are buried, figuratively speaking. Right, a guy that knows how to fight the NFL. The antitrust thing. Kind of hang in there, looming over Washington as well.
So, what does the league do? It's I think He's likely going to get drafted, assuming there is a supplemental draft. And right now, the league has not yet, quote-unquote, granted the supplemental draft. Everyone is going nuts. Oh, who picks him?
There is no supplemental draft yet. There is no draft until they say there is a draft. Then someone has to take them? He has to not be suspended. and then he has to get on the field.
So I'm gonna say Fernando Mendez. Ooh. Andrew, I've known you a long time. I know you're passionate about a couple of teams. Of these two favorite teams, what's more likely to happen first?
The Guardians win the American League. or Syracuse Football wins the ACC. Is the ACC still a thing? Yes. Okay.
It stretches both coasts now. It does, I'm told. There are schools in California in the ACC. There's two. Yes.
There are schools in California that make 10. Yeah. There's two. Stupid. Um The Guardians will win the American League.
Oh. Oh, yeah. And I have faith, don't get me wrong, in Fran Brown, the man on the right. Me too. But I also have faith in the guy on the left, Travis Bozana.
And the thing with the Guardians is they have always found a way. And that's what makes it so frustrating, they're such a well-run players. disciplined organization that year in, year out. Out. Find a way to win the division.
And they don't spend a lot of money. They develop. They manage well. top to bottom. And they find a way to win the division.
Who has won? the American League Central. More times since 2000. No, but like all the like. The Tigers, the White Sox, the Twins, all these teams have had their runs.
The Guardians have won that division or made the postseason. I don't know what the numbers are so many more times than those other teams. It's ridiculous. And two years ago they were there. They were this close they couldn't get Juan Soto out.
I was sitting right there, and I'm still angry about it. Yeah, I would say that the Guardians have a far better shot. All right. Let's go, Orange, though. Let's go, Orange.
Yeah, I like it. I think this is a fun one. TJ, I weigh in on this. More likely to be the bigger number this year. Miles flown by the 49ers.
I've seen that's a pretty big number. Or feet hiked by you.
So it's miles flown by the 49ers because.
Okay. I can't see the gut under the chair here, under the desk. I have only done like one walk. Oh, no! And what was the footage?
John Baldy here in LA, which is what? Or 11, whatever it is. I uh kind of fallen off. What? Not you.
Yeah. No.
I was thinking of a trip to Morocco last month. There's like an 11,000-foot peak in Morocco that I was going to go do Lisbon and then hop down to Morocco. It's too hot to do it now. I missed that window when I went to Asia instead. First world problems, I realize.
49ers are looking at 38,000 miles. Yeah, yeah. 38,000.
So you're saying me to climb? I could.
Okay, I could put a bunch of like Mount Baldies together and get to 38. But I don't know the way my summer lays out right now. I don't think I'm going to. Wow. Yeah.
Upset. I thought for sure you'd be. Like I really want to do Akon Kagua, which is like 21, but like the window That, but you can't do it now. It's winter, and the window to climb it. is during football season the window closes like right around the Super Bowl.
And I'm not going to be able to do it. That's like my next bucket list one, but I'd have to like skip the playoffs to do it. I know the Browns are gonna. I have other gigs. There are other things for me to do.
Okay. You might Andrew Dice. And the Browns are man. Exactly. I'm kind of bullish, to be honest with you.
But that's just me. By low. All right, last one. On this date in 1975, TJ. Oh, what happened?
Kepaso? Jaws was removed. No.
Del Tufo. Jazz, Del Tufo's favorite movie. Where were you on the state of 1970? Popborn. Yeah.
Okay. I was. How about this one, guys? On the Jaws anniversary, most likely sports mascot you're most afraid of. Sharks, lions, or pirates.
I'm the captain. Who's afraid of a pirate? I'm the captain now. Have you ever seen that movie? Yes.
Terrifying. But there aren't many modern-day pirates. There are.
Okay. If I'm sailing the east coast of Africa, gotcha.
Well that's where they are. Don't go there. I'm not. Sean, I don't know. Is there a mountain there you can hike?
I mean, I did Melanjaro. Lions or pirates. Who did this? Who put this together? That's great.
Sean, well done with that. The answer would be. That's great. The answer would be sharks. Or wait, lions?
Sharks, lions, or pirates?
Okay. It's far more likely I would run into a lion. Than a shark. I'm not in the ocean very often. They have been spotted.
So here's the thing about mountain lions. Here's the thing about mountain lions. You never see them, but they always see you. Especially if you're out late after dusk or. Or you're hiking really early in the morning before the sun comes up, don't do it, they see you.
They see you.
Okay. I am more afraid, kind of, of bears. I run into bears a whole bunch while hiking. Oh, no. I've run into a bunch.
Generally speaking, they're just big dumb raccoons. And they they you you know how to deal with them? Yeah. Ah Other than grizzlies. Grizzlies are not big and dumb.
Well, they're big. They're big. Yeah. You will lose every time. I mean, I saw Cocaine Bear.
Yeah. Bunch of sharks. I saw a grizzly in Montana once, but it was like a good couple hundred yards away. Thank God. And that thing was the size of a VW bus.
And it would be over.
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844-204-Rich. You'll watch us on Disney Plus, the ESPN app. This is the legendary golf writer Alan Shipnock at Chinnecock Hills. We're day two at the U.S. Open.
Chris Brockman and the entire crew is here. You heard Chris go, ooh, when Alan said he thinks Matt Fitzpatrick can make and maybe will make a run. What happened to Dustin Johnson, Alan? Because this morning, as I was trying to wipe the sleep out of my eyes, I thought he was making a run. He's like at one under.
And wait a minute, he fell off the face of the Hamptons. He got shinnacocked, you know, basically had a couple balls roll off greens into bad spots, and that's all it takes. He made a snowman out there. He did the classic thing that tour players do when they hit a bad bunker shot. They look at their wedge and they pretend there was a rock behind the ball.
Maybe there was, maybe there wasn't. But he didn't throw his club, right? Because we had that yesterday. No one threw a club today. Not yet, but the day is young.
But yeah, Joaquin Nimen, you know, that. It's pretty delicious. People forget that, you know, Joaquin Neiman's been the big dog on live golf. He's won more tournaments out there than anybody else. And he went on a campaign for about a year.
Bitching and moaning about how he should get spots into the major championships based on his play of lived golf. The USJ actually listened and they let him play out here because of his lived golf success, this new exemption they've carved out. And then he goes out, he makes an 11, he hurls his club down the fairway, gets dinged for that. Just not a winning performance for a guy who had to kind of talk his way into the field. And yet he still ended up with an 8 over 78.
With Penalty and a 7 over 11. I mean.
So he actually shot well. save for the one absolute disaster. Yeah, I mean the Titanic had a great ride except for the one iceberg. I mean, come on. Like, you make it 11.
I don't know how you're going to frame that positively. 17 of the 18 weren't bad, I guess is my point. But then the Titanic, good one. You mentioned Rory has yet to tee off. He's getting there right after 2 o'clock Eastern time.
What do you think of Rory day one after shooting one under?
Well, I think that someone should write a book about him, honestly. How did boy Alan? Ask Alan. We'll tee it up for you, bud. I'm just kidding.
Yeah, Rory, he probably could have shot a couple shots lower yesterday, and he played in the toughest win. I didn't think he squeezed the most out of his round. He's he's gone to a different plane as a golfer. Even his mediocre rounds now, they're a 69 instead of a 73. And if he can.
Get a few more on the fairway. Like, you know, he's been fighting his driver all year long, and you know, Rory's driver is the most potent weapon in golf. And so, you just feel like any day it's just gonna click. And if he can attack this golf course, I mean, it's it's short, and if he can keep the ball on the fairway, he's very dangerous. I mean, Rory just has an ease and a comfort on the biggest stages now that I don't think anybody has, even Scotty, who's looking edgy.
And you know, he had this existential crisis on the driving range yesterday.
So, yeah, Rory's dangerous for sure. Talking to Alan Shipnuck, legendary golf writer. He is in the tent there at Chinocock Hills, where I look at the leaderboard and I see Bryson DeChambo with a 70. and a seventy five He ain't gonna make it, is he? Yeah.
Unlikely. I mean, it seems like he's going to miss another cut. You know, that'll be four of the last five at the majors. He's just. Bryson drives it great and he has a terrific short game.
His iron play is trash for an elite golfer, and that. At this golf course especially, precision into the greens is the most important thing. And he just doesn't have it. And he gets exposed at Augusta National, especially on a firm test, like with small targets. Bryson's iron game just simply is not good enough.
And he has these 3D printed irons with a rounded face. It's like he's trying to engineer his way into success. It's like, no, bro, you just need to become a better iron player. It's a shame because the rest of his game is so strong, but it's really holding him back. You know, when you go to a mediocre, you know, B-list golf tournament for a live event, he can drive it so far the irons don't even matter.
He's just hitting wedges and everything. You come out to the major championships, it's a much more complete test. It's much more exacting. The courses ask tougher questions, and Bryson's just not up to it right now. Speaking of tough questions, I don't know if this is a tough one, Alan, but I'll roll it out there to you.
For those who don't know, Alan has basically written the book. about Phil Nicholson. Alan, curious your thoughts on Phil Mickelson's current predicament. And that is not in any way to make light of the allegations, but the the current situation he is in in San Diego. Yes, you it's hard to imagine an athlete burning up more goodwill in than Phil has.
You know, when he won the 2021 PGA Championship at age 50, oldest guy ever to win a major. He was a folk hero, and he could have had it all. I mean, Ryder Cup captaincies. He could have sat in the tower next to Jim Nance. He would have been an honorary starter at the Masters into his dotage.
And all that's gone now. I mean, he's... Phil is just, it's an incredible fall from grace. It's sad.
Now, of course, it's all of his own doing, so you can only have so much empathy, but just to see a figure who's so beloved, sort of this modern-day Arnold Palmer, who's now become this pariah and who's reviled and who's disgraced. It's really new it's really a stunning um you know, fall from grace and Um Whether Phil will ever take public ownership of this. You know, he's just been underground this whole season. He was citing a family health situation, which was valid. You know, one of his children had.
was facing some challenges, but the reporting around this incident where he allegedly groped this employee at this private club in San Diego and was escorted off the grounds and was forced, technically resigned. It was one of those things where he jumped before he got pushed and left the club. It's a serious accusation, and it's just part of this longer slide into infamy. Um It's again, you know, Phil's responsible for his own actions. I just think it's stunning that the the biggest the biggest golf icons of more or less our lifetime, you know, Tiger and Phil, have brought so much disgrace upon themselves with their behavior, with their addiction.
With their vices, and they've been linked since childhood. You know, Phil had all the records in Southern California, and Tiger was chasing them. And then they were foils. You know, Phil's never quite a rival to Tiger, but he was a good foil. And now into their 50s, they're just these parallel lives.
Um It's an incredible roller coaster ride with both of them. And Tiger just got out of rehab. We'll see where Phil goes from here, but certainly he's facing a long road back to ever being accepted as any kind of elder statesman in the sport. Yeah, Alan, it's a What's More Likely Friday. Who's more likely that we see again play in a tournament, Tiger or Phil?
Well You'd have to say Phil just because his body is unbroken, whereas Tigers smashed up so many different parts of his. But on the other hand, if Tiger can piece it together, he can play on the senior tour with a cart. That option is not available to Phil, you know, because of his allegiance to live golf. For him to play a PJ tour or a senior tour event, he's going to have to serve a suspension of at least a year. He's going to have to pay a mega fine.
I think he's disinclined to do either one. If Liv Golf goes away next year, which is increasingly likely, Phil's a man without a country, he has nowhere to play. at least Tiger has is is welcome wherever he wants to play. Even though Tiger has all these health challenges, I'd probably in the final analysis take him as more likely to at least try and soldier through a tournament, whereas Phil just might have nowhere to go. That's a great point.
Tiger, like, I can't just see him saying. I'm so broken, I'm going to stop attempting to play. I mean, if it means 15 more surgeries, he strikes me as a guy that is still going to try. Whether or not he can, I don't know. It could it be too broken?
It's like almost like Humpty Dumpty. They're trying to put him back together. And I hope that he can get back out there. But I don't see him stopping the effort, do you? It's just who he is.
It's all he's done since he was in diapers.
So I don't think he can turn it off. I mean, you know, Tiger always said he'd stop playing when he felt like he couldn't win the tournament. But we've seen him the last X number of years struggle to even make the cut, and he just keeps coming back for more. I think, you know, his son Charlie is an X Factor. You know, he's now an undergraduate.
Just like LeBron wanted to hang on to play with his son, I could see Tiger thinking, you know, if Charlie can, certainly he's going to get sponsors' invites to PJ tour events because his last name is Woods. You know, I could see Tiger to try to keep going so they could be in the field together at a real tournament, not just this sort of rinky-dink father-son thing they've done in the past. You know, the US Senior Open is intriguing. You know, Tigers got, he has the U.S. Junior, he has the U.S.
amateur, he has the U.S. Open. I think there's a little romantic in him that would love to get the U.S. Senior Open as well. And so.
Um Who knows? What does he have in his life beyond golf? It seems pretty empty.
So I think that he'll keep trying. Whether he can feel sound enough, whether his body will allow him to have enough reps to do something like tournament sharp. Those are unknowns. Um you know there was some sort of Pop Rotsy photos of him after Rehab as he landed back in the US, he looked so much better. Like he was, he's just been puffy and bloated for years, and it was probably related to all the pills he was taking.
And he looked more slender, he looked healthier. Um Looked like he was light on his feet, you know, after not having touched a golf club for months. You know, Tigers climbed the mountain so many times. I don't think anyone expects him to come back and win the Masters again. But if you could get out between the ropes and hear the cheers of the crowd and have the sun on his back.
and enjoy a little bit of a victory lab just by being on the golf course, I think. Nobody would begrudge him that and he's earned it. Um It's the last chapter for both of these guys, Tiger and Phil, is unwritten. We'll see. Yeah, and can you imagine the galleries of that guy's, if Tiger that is on the senior tour?
I mean, the senior tour becomes a thing again. Senior tour is coming to town, folks. Let's go see the old man limp around the course. Alan, real quick, before we let you go, you want to give me, actually, parentheses, you want to give Brockman a winner this week? And yeah, I'm going to stick with Fitzpatrick.
I think, you know, he's a one-you've got to open just like Wyndham Clark has, but. I just think he's a tougher character. I think he's more of a grinder. I think he has the best short game of any player on the leaderboard. and he has the most confidence after the the tournaments he's won earlier this year.
I just feel like four shots is not nothing, but they can go quickly out here. I'm going to take 15 with a 67 and a 70 today.
So, as you mentioned, three under and four shots back of the leader. Two rounds. It is round two. They're still going to Shinocock Hills of the U.S. Open.
Alan Shipnuck, appreciate your time. Appreciate your candor, man. You always make me laugh. Thanks for doing this. Enjoy the rest of your Hamptons weekend, my friend.
Thanks for having me. Alan Shipnuck, everybody at Shinnecock Hills. Yeah, Alan. That guy cracks me up. He's the greatest.
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and flag football. The open question about NFL players and their participation after the Fanatics. Tom Brady-led football game here a couple of months ago. A lot of us came away going, eh, maybe this flag thing, not for the NFL players.
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We approved it a year ago. And I've had a lot of players that have said, we want to participate in that. It sets up really well because it's the four camps. It'll be the first week of the Olympics next year. Yeah.
Listen, there's these players are competitors and they love the big stage. And to win a gold medal or any medal, Is something I think they would all treasure, and they talk about it all the time.
So I absolutely believe we're going to have players in the Olympics, active players, and probably some retired players. Again, the Commissioner Roger Goodell with Suzy. That's Women's Sports Now, new episodes every Thursday, 6 p.m. Eastern Time across ESPN digital platforms. Look at that fantastic.
Cast and crew. I was at the game, the Fanatics game, where people walked away going, man, this is not. This is not cool. This ain't going to work. And actually, I was there with the commissioner for a while talking about what we were seeing down in the field, which was the professional flag guys just running up and down the field.
And destroying the NFL players because it is a different game. I was down on the field for practice the day before here in Los Angeles, before the game, the Friday. And actually, look, Kyle, you check on the screen. He walked off the field. And I said, how is it out there?
It was hot that day. It was just NFL guys practicing against NFL guys. And he goes, I don't know what this is, but it is in football. And that wasn't a slam. It was, it's a different game.
It's more like lacrosse. Memorial Day weekend a couple of weeks ago, did you guys watch the NCAA lacrosse final for always a great tournament? Hats off to the Orange for making it further than we had had in a while. Um A lot of backwards passing. A lot of go into the zone, test, flip it back.
Go into the zone, test. Flip it back. A lot of games. It it's not football. It's an entirely different sport.
Saquon Barkley cannot run through you. He can't. He's got to run around. You. It's better for the kick-returner type.
Yeah, shit. The guy that can make people miss in space. Type. Just having Tom Brady stand back there and pick people apart that doesn't work. Joe Burrow standing back there picking people apart.
It does. Not Yuck. NFL players will be there because NFL players, as Roger Goodell, need to be there. Just said, need to be there. All right.
The NFL was behind. this push, understandably, to get The flag football, get flag football into the games. Not the only. force here but was certainly part of the effort nfl players are going to be there i guarantee you But Team USA is going to win. With a roster that is predominantly professional flag players, because we are the best, we Americans here, and we will win.
But NFL guys are going to be on that team. Because they have to. Right for the growth of the game, and some will bring amazing value. But you're better suited for Cavante Turpin. Have him in the game.
Right. then you are a Saquon Barkley. It's just the way it's going to be. Where has to be? And what Roger was saying there about the calendar.
Flag football is the first week of the games. and the tournament itself is only like six seven days. It's not going to go to two and a half weeks. It's they jammed it into the front of the schedule.
So that Guys can do this and not miss training camp. Because there's this idea that, well, teams aren't going to let guys out of training camp. They're not going to have to miss training camp. The schedule is set up that way.
Now the question is after watching Joe Burrow get his pants pulled down, literally, not figuratively, and hitting the turf trying to avoid getting a flag pulled, will NFL players want their guys to play? And technically they have to let them. But it's only like one guy per team.
So It's not going to be as big of an issue. As truly Everybody thinks coming up. The Hall of Famer. Joe Thompson. Right around the corner.
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