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Good to see you, Mike. How are you? I'm doing great, Rich. How are you? This is not I don't did I haven't seen you zoom in from this location in a while.
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Okay. A lot of articles on the site. I enjoy all of them. Yeah. I've taken them all in.
The one that I want to lead with is your. Your latest on your opinion of the Indiana or Chicago/slash Illinois Bears, Mike? What do you think?
Well, Rich, you've been doing this a long time, as have I. That is a kind way of saying we're both. Seasoned. We've been around and we've seen this movie. And We know that it's important to have leverage when you're talking about the significant financial investment that comes from building an NFL stadium.
The Bears don't have the leverage to say we'll move to San Antonio. They're not leaving Chicago.
So, at some point along the way, as they were having difficulties in making something happen first in Chicago and then in Arlington Heights, which I think became the leverage for Chicago, they recognized, possibly inspired by the Kansas City Chiefs going from Missouri to Kansas eventually, hey, we can cross the border. Indiana's right over there, it's still in Chicagoland. Let's start talking to Indiana and let's see if they'll give us what we want. And the fact that they keep talking to Illinois after they've gotten what they want from Indiana shows that Indiana is leverage to possibly get a better deal. In Illinois, the real question to me is whether Indiana is a bluff.
If they can't get what they want from Illinois, will they eventually say we'll just go to Indiana? That's TBD, but for now. It's clear. That However real Indiana may or may not be at the end of the day. It's for now leverage to try to get a better deal in Illinois, whether that's Arlington Heights on the property the Bears bought several years ago or In Chicago, and there continues to be News from time to time about communications between the Bears and Chicago, about a stadium in Chicago.
So I think that's kind of where we are. They got through the legislative session without getting anything done. They may have a special session. They keep talking to Illinois. They want to find a solution in Illinois, and I think the league wants them to as well.
Until then, Indiana is just kind of sitting there as the way to squeeze Illinois. And so the Indiana deal is for an audience of one, and that's the governor of Illinois. Governor Pritzker? Is that what you're Driving out here, you think? More than the governor.
You got to get the legislature on board as well. And Priscilla said yesterday he'll call a special session if there's a bill that both sides. Can get behind both the House and the Senate. There was progress on a Senate bill that would have made. Arlington Heights.
Best possible destination, and then there was some effort in the legislative session to make Chicago. more attractive but I think it's just generally. A push against Illinois's reluctance to Write a really, really big check at the expense of taxpayers. That's something Pritzker has said on multiple occasions. And you know, the pushback didn't surprise them.
If any of these measures end up on a ballot, they fail miserably. Look what happened with the Chiefs. They just wanted to extend an existing sales tax in Jackson County, Missouri, and they were on the heels of two straight Super Bowl wins. And it failed miserably. That was the impetus to start looking around at Kansas.
So, yeah, I think that this is a general play to get Illinois to do something. There are some states that will never do anything like California. There are some states that will do whatever they have to do, like Nevada. They saw an opportunity to take the Raiders and they did whatever they had to do. Illinois is kind of somewhere in the middle, and maybe they need to face the threat of losing the team to Indiana before they'll do something about it.
But first, they have to take the threat seriously, and I don't think they're taking it seriously.
Well, you know. I'll be honest, man, with all due respect to Indiana, Northwest Indiana, or even Arlington Heights, where, if I'm not mistaken, the Bills are already I mean, the Bears are already 200 million in the hole, right? Having bought the property there and raised. the race track that used to sit there at Arlington Heights. I mean, Chicago's a jewel of an American city.
And the number of American cities that have within, I guess, the city limits, the actual city, not maybe the sprawling. uh county uh beyond it That are home to an NFL stadium, you know, like Seattle, Baltimore, just to name a couple, right? Um Las Vegas is another. We're getting fewer and fewer. Obviously, Buffalo has one now.
Um as well. is is in this group. Nashville. Very few cities are just where the stadium is, right? You know, Phoenix is obviously not Glendale, as a for instance.
New York City is not New Jersey. I could go on and on here. Um it would It would just be a cry. Why not? I don't know.
Stay in Soldier Field or figure something out that the Bears would get the. Real estate that their deal that they're also looking for? Because if I'm not mistaken, those are what NFL teams are looking to drive at, is that there's real estate deals to be made around a stadium in an economic model. Mike, right. Not just to potentially bring a Super Bowl to town, but also.
To have a venue that can be used year-round. That's what they're doing in Cleveland, where they're moving out of Cleveland to a suburban location in a domed stadium. They wanna be able to have the concerts, the Final Four, all the different things that can be done in that football stadium that's gonna host. 10 games per year, maybe up to 12, depending upon how well the season goes. You've got plenty of other days on the calendar where there's nothing there, and it's just a way to generate more money for everyone and to help.
pay for it. And so even if the Bears would stay in Chicago, it's going to be in a dome. which Look, we saw that Rams Bears playoff game, and football in the elements is a beautiful thing.
Now, when the elements affect the on-field product, it can become a little bit of a problem. But I think for the most part, we like seeing games in the elements, and I agree with you, we like seeing stadiums in the cities. For which the team Is named. I'm an hour and a half from Pittsburgh, and I make that drive from time to time.
Sometimes when I'm driving through Cannonsburg or Bridgeville or some of the other outskirts of Pittsburgh, the idea that seeing a giant football stadium where the Steelers play there is ridiculous. It's ridiculous. But you're right, more and more teams, they find the land, they find the deal, and they make it happen, and they're not hesitant about leaving. the city for which they're named. Yeah, I mean, when you come through the Fort Pitt tunnel, right, going into Pittsburgh, just boom, it's like Gotham is right there in front of you.
It's it's it's beautiful. Mike Florio here uh on The Rich Isand Show. Man, I I am just loving the the narrative that NFL teams are beginning to soak in. NFL locker rooms are beginning to soak in. That Miles Garrett to the Rams is essentially end of the season already.
Every time that happens, doesn't the team that we thought we should just go ahead and give the trophy to and cancel the season, don't they? Disappoint. Remember the dream team in 2011? That was Vince Young's comment when he was signed to be a backup quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles. I remember all the way back to 2000 when Washington added Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders, and people were ready to just hand them the The Super Bowl trophy, and they didn't even make the playoffs.
So I. I know the next pipe dream is Aaron Donald coming back that If that would happen, that would put so much pressure on the Rams at a time when there's already a ton of pressure on them, on Miles Garrett, on Matthew Stafford. Who, speaking of back situations, They were talking about putting them on injured reserve to start last season. And anybody who's had back issues know they can come back without warning. And it can be the dumbest thing like bending over to pick up a pile of clothes for the wash, which happened to me two and a half weeks ago.
And if Stafford gets injured, what are they going to do? What are they going to do? They're going to go with Ty Simpson. They're going to go with Stetson Bennett. If Stafford would have another back problem, so it's going to put a ton of pressure on the Rams as it is.
You throw Donald into the mix, and it may become unprecedented, just the presumption that this team is going to go wire to wire and win the Super Bowl. And again, I don't know if this is just, you know, it's June, we're kind of bored, we're waiting for training camp stuff, despite there being OTAs that are going down, Mike. But social media is usually the through line where you're like, oh, wait a minute, somebody's posting this, somebody's posting that. Aaron Donald is posting highlights of himself. On Instagram, which I don't think he's been doing lately.
This does seem to be having a real possibility, Mike. This really does feel real to me. He said last week he needs to relight the fire. Maybe that is his way of rubbing the two sticks together. Putting those things out there, seeing how it's received and He's thirty five, but he hasn't played for two years, so he's got two fewer years of wear and tear than he would have if he was thirty five and played continuously since he entered the NFL as a first-round pick in twenty fourteen.
And he looks like he can still do it. And to the extent that he got burned out, Two years ago, and that's what he said happened, he got burned out. It's easy to get burned out when you got two or three guys blocking you every single play. He sees now the possibility to come back and play. With someone else getting extra attention.
And he can go do the thing he's never been able to do, which is maybe take on only one guy or, you know, two instead of three. That would be something, and that that would that would make the the Rams are already the favorites to win the Super Bowl. They get Aaron Donald and it just It becomes LA Rams season, and they host the Super Bowl again this year. And anything less than a Super Bowl appearance, if not a Super Bowl win, is going to be viewed as a disappointment for the Rams.
So that'll be easy for all of us when training camp hits to have a conversation about the NFC. Uh what about the AFC, right? I don't know. This thing seems to be wide ass open. Right now, Mike, doesn't it?
When you consider the coaching changes that have been made and what that means for teams like the Bills, what it means for the Steelers after 19 years with Mike Tomlin, the Ravens after 18 years with John Harbaugh, the Patrick Mahomes factor in Kansas City, I think the return of Eric Bienemi to be the offensive coordinator is going to have a very positive effect on that team. There was an item recently in the athletic from Jesse Newell with quotes from Biennemy and others about. What he's done to kind of Get the team back to fundamentals, get them back to basics, get them back to almost a high school mentality. They may have lost sight of that some last year after going to three straight Super Bowls, and the enemy left after the 2022 season.
So, I think it may be the breath of fresh air that they need. And I know Patrick Mahomes is very excited about the fact that he's back. And, you know, we know, yes, Patrick Mahomes is recovering from one of the worst injuries a player can have, but I think we also have a pretty good idea. He's gonna do everything in his power to be ready to go week one. And he already seems to be ahead of schedule, to no surprise.
The Chiefs are a team that. That I would not take lightly. We got robbed in twenty eighteen of a rematch of the fifty four fifty one Week of Thanksgiving, Monday night classic between the Rams and Chiefs because the Patriots won the coin toss and overtime went down the field, won, and punched their ticket to the Super Bowl. We may get. Who knows, Rams Chiefs, when it's all said and done this year.
That would be something. To say the least. And you're an industry leader, Mike, in looking at breadcrumbs and seeing breadcrumbs and seeing a loaf. looking at embers and saying that's smoke, you look at smoke and say that's a fire. Um so going into training camp.
Max Crosby. George Pickens, which one do you think is more likely to be a real deal revisiting Exit visas despite contracts and things of that nature. Oh, I think that between the two, Crosby is the more likely. To be traded. And the irony would be, he has recently said he doesn't want to be traded after the misfire to the Baltimore Ravens.
But once people see that he's back and he's healthy, once we get closer to the season, once we get into the season, if the Raiders struggle again, and it seems like every year they have a fire sale, or at least the willingness to have a fire sale. And in the past, it's been everybody but Max Crosby and maybe Brock Bowers. This year, I think it makes sense to wonder if the Raiders don't. become competitive And art In a position to contend when we get toward the Tuesday after week nine, there could be a contender out there that thinks it's one pass rusher away.
So I think that's far more likely. With Pickens, if he's going to be traded, he's most likely to be traded before July 15 because after July 15, whoever requires his contract, Cannot sign him to a long-term deal. They acquire the exact rights that the Cowboys have. And under the franchise tag rules, even though he signed the tender, you can't sign him to a long-term contract after July 15. I think the Cowboys are content to keep George Pickens for the duration.
And I think it'd be very hard to find a trade partner for a one-year deal at $27.298 million with the option of tagging him next year if they don't do a trade before that. And my own theory, we were talking about this on PFT Live today. I think it was leaked right before the draft that he was going to sign the tender as one last shaking of the tree to see if someone would offer the Cowboys something for him because you can't trade a guy who's franchise tagged until he accepts the tender. Hmm.
So what I guess in in in in this respect is Um What would be his reason to not show up in a mandatory setting? Right. What would that mean? I don't I don't get that move. Right.
Unless it's it's to basically say you you could still re-sign me to a long-term deal, do it. Right. That's the only leverage he has at this point. But, Rich, why would you accept the franchise tender and put yourself under contract when all you had to do was not take the tender? All you had to do was nothing, and you missed the mandatory minicamp, and you don't face roughly $100,000 in fines.
Now, it's only $100,000, but it's still $100,000 that he easily could have avoided.
So, it makes no sense if he's not there for the mandatory minicamp. I think he's at a point in his career where he needs to convince people that the three years in Pittsburgh, and more specifically at the end of the road, and when it all was kind of getting dysfunctional and not working, even if it wasn't his fault, even if it all flowed from the fact that the Steelers failed to use him the way they should have, he needs to get people to forget that. One year in Dallas, one good year in Dallas, hasn't done it. Another good year in Dallas could do it. And accepting the franchise tender, skipping the mandatory minicamp, that will cause confusion around the league.
And that will make people less inclined to think he's finally realized it's in his best interest to show up. Take the money he's getting. Yes, it's well below the market, and that's one of the problems with the franchise tag, especially at the receiver position. The market's north of 40, and he's getting 27 when he otherwise would have been able to go to the market and see what someone would have paid him. But still, 27 is a hell of a lot more than we thought he would have gotten a year ago when he was making three in the final year of his rookie deal, and nobody really knew what he was going to do in Dallas.
So I think his best play is to be all in. I thought he'd maybe even show up for the voluntary stuff. Like, hey, let's go, like what Kirk Cousins did when he got tagged in Washington, like what Dak did when he got tagged. I'm going to be here. I'm going to have the best possible year I can.
I'm going to position myself for a shot at the market. And the worst case scenario is they tag me again next year. And if he was holding out for something that simple, like I'll show up for one year. And promise not to tag me next year. All the more reason to not accept the tender.
In April, and push this thing all the way to the start of the regular season. Lastly, I know this is some red meat for you, a spinning curve in the zone, or to use your current state of affairs, a nerve block for you. I'll take one of those. I know that. What's Brandon Ayuk's play right now, man?
I mean, the latest video coming out, not biting the hand, but clowning the hand of the Niners, who. I think we all know at some point are gonna eventually have to release the guy in time for playing this season. Him coming out and basically clowning the team, I don't get it unless it makes him feel good and he knows that they're going to still have to release him anyway. And this. This makes him feel good that he's he's he's putting something out that that Again, clowns of the forty-niners, but do you have a better insight on what he's up to?
My favorite conspiracy theory of the week, which is one that I believe I came up with, the Forty Niners the Forty Niners here's my theory. The Forty Niners canceled their mandatory minicamp to avoid having Brandon Ayuk show up. And what Brandon and I should have done. He should have shown up. First day of the offseason program.
Here I am. Deal with me. Put me on the practice field. Assume the risk that if I pop my Achilles, you're going to owe me $26 million. He could have brought this to a head by showing up and forcing the 49ers to do something.
And it's in his interest now to be ready to go for training camp. If he, for some reason, stays away, they put him on the reserve, did not report list, they can squat on him, they can continue to squat on him. The best outcome. For the 49ers, if they can't trade, and a trade would require a reworking of his contract. Nobody's gonna pay him $26 million this year.
But if they can't trade the commanders or someone else, the best play is he doesn't play. The best play is he doesn't show up for the 49ers, because then he doesn't go somewhere else. And get back to being the guy that earned the four-year $120 million contract.
So he should have been there for the offseason program. He needs to be there for training camp. And I think when he shows up, if he shows up for training camp, that's when the 49ers have a decision to make. One thing we learned, and it's been almost 20 years, if not exactly 20 years, when Steve McNair was with the Titans and they were trying to trade him to the Ravens, they tried to keep Steve McNair out of the building. There was a grievance that was filed.
McNair won. You can't tell a guy, don't come in. You can't tell a guy, you can't practice. The 49ers have to assume the risk of allowing him to practice. And if he gets a season-ending injury, they owe him every penny of the $26 million.
His leverage is to show up. Their leverage is to do nothing and hope he doesn't show up. He should have already been there. He needs to be there at the start of training camp. That's the quickest path to ending up in Washington or wherever he wants to go.
Mike, appreciate the information and then, of course, that laugh you just gave all of us here. My favorite conspiracy theory is one that I believe I came up with. That is just. That's next level, man. Don't you miss the days when conspiracy theory wasn't a term that immediately.
connoted something like ridiculous. Like it was fun. There was a time when it was fun. At some point over the last ten years, it's become something that is anything but fun. Mike?
Thanks for the time. Feel better, bud. I appreciate you taking it in. That's Mike Florey, everybody. And if you're in his area and you want to drop off some ibuprofen, he'll take it.
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Todd Munkin has turned into a fun soundbite, guys. I'm not going to lie. You know, he sounds like he's perpetually hoarse. He's constantly, you know, he's got the Doc Rivers voice, right? Yeah.
Something going on. Yeah, Mitch Johnson. He's got something going on. Yeah. Todd Monkin.
Yeah. They asked him if he's going to name a starter, number one. No, I mean, it's minicamp. I know that, but. Why is he going to do that?
It's June. Get out of here with that. It's a quarterback competition in Cleveland. He's trying to create one, he's trying to have one. He's havin' one.
All right? You got the floor, coach. I'm not going to name a number one.
So that I am not going to name. That chances are that's not going to I shouldn't say that. Chances are I will not.
Now, once we get to the fall, we'll have to dissect the reps how we see fit. I just don't see it after the way Shadur's played and Deshaun's played. They both played well enough to earn the right to compete to start. Has someone shown you more? that you're not ready to make that decision.
Well, I would have hoped that. But I like both of 'em. I mean, I don't know what to say. It's really as simple as that. I like both of them.
And we haven't had the pads on. That's the hardest. We haven't. As much as I'd love to have made that decision either by Someone separating themselves upward or downward, either way. which has not occurred.
So and we haven't even gotten to practicing against an opponent putting the pads on. having a controlled scrimmage or playing preseason games. I would have loved to it. I was I was being honest. I think you'd love to have the starter named.
I just can't do it. I'm not there yet. I know that Seattle is hard knocks this year, but I kind of would like Cleveland. Two things off of that. Number one, Okay.
Number one. is um Before I heard that too. We're going to figure out the reps in the fall. I think he just. I think he's we all know a number one is going to get named in the preseason.
Unless he wants to go into the uh the Browns season opener. being coy about it. But we'll see, you know, preseason action. prior to that game at Jacksonville. I mean, is he going to be just keep Jacksonville guessing as to which mobile quarterback they're going to see?
You know what I mean? Um So I heard that and I'm like, okay. I mean the first day of fall is week three. By the reps. Like whoever's starting is going to get the reps.
Okay? That's number one. And number two, we just heard why. Dylan Gabriel's wearing number six. Because he didn't mention Dylan's in the running for all for starting.
for this team. Shadour has clearly separated himself. From Dylan Gabriel. The Dylan Gabriel versus Shador days appear to be over. Right?
Yeah. He's talking about Deshaun and Shadur. You know, some coaches will be like, oh, the whole quarterback room is involved. Everybody, have your head in a swivel if you're in the quarterback room. 'Cause I might call your number.
Eight or six. You know what I mean? So it seems like Shador is a real shot at this thing. A real shot at this. I thought it was interesting that he said that nobody had separated themselves, good or bad.
So they're just kind of like, but it's. I saw a nice deep ball to Isaiah Bond on somebody.
Well, and he's also pointing out that they're not in pads.
So to ask him now who's number one going into training camp, why would he do that? Who's going to number one going into the preseason? We will see who's he going to give his first preseason start to. All things being equal and healthy, but it sure sounds like Dylan Gabriel's got a mountain to climb here. You know?
That's what that sounded like to me. Fun stuff, man. He's a fun soundbite. Not for him, it's not fun.
Well, for Dylan Gabriel? No, of course not. He lost his number and and apparently his number two. on the depth chart ranking here. Probably it's chained too.
Yeah, like I said yesterday. His bike, his chain. Everything at snatch.
Meanwhile, in Minnesota, last we heard from Kyler Murray and JJ McCarthy, they're both sitting in the same classroom, but on either side of the classroom, listening to the same teacher. There's not a lot of collaboration in the study group. To which Kevin O'Connell, the teacher at the front of the class, technically, ultimately, at the end of the day, with Josh McCown in there. Sam, this is no big deal here. Everybody's getting along.
It's all good. Competition's healthy, yada yada yada.
Okay, now Here we are. June OTAs, mini camp, whatever you want to call it. Murray was asked. And a very interesting answer here, very honest answer. Uh the most challenging aspect of uh his current status.
and practice time with the team. I think the toughest part is, again, I was there for seven years. I know I had two different um you know offensive systems, but at the same time uh you're getting all those reps. You know, ha now having to split reps, it's um Me already being behind, not getting the amount of reps that you would typically want a guy to get learning in offense. That's probably the toughest part.
Again, going back to the past, being in control of everything, understanding what we were already doing because I was comfortable within the system.
Now coming into the new system, learning on the fly, trying to play fast, efficient, and let it loose while learning is pretty, you know, that's the toughest part. When was the last time you think Kyler Murray In practices, didn't get all the reps. Ever college? College? No way.
Doesn't even know that. I doubt it. I would say. Middle school. Maybe, right?
If ever? If ever. Yeah. Pay Kyler? Good rhythm, good stuff.
We know you you're You need time to get up to speed here, but Step off. Probably playing a different sport. Step off the field. Yeah. JJ's got to take reps.
Here's what he had to say about the rep split. Those reps being distributed are something out of my control, and the only thing I focus in on is that next rep, and keep it as simple as that.
Okay, that was the answer there. Seems like nobody's happy with the number of reps that they're getting. 2017 collar backed up baker. There you go.
So there you have it. Oh, yeah, there you go.
Okay, there you have it. Thank you, sir, for. pegging that away. Man, Kyron was so good his junior year. at Oklahoma.
Obviously one of the Heisman. 42 touchdowns, seven picks. The nation and everything. They went Baker, Kyler, Jalen Hurts. Back to back to back in Oklahoma as a quarterback.
Where's Caleb Williams in that regard? He went with Spencer Rattler and then Caleb, but Caleb backed up Spencer.
So he Started six games that season. Interesting that somebody would ask J.J. McCarthy if this is a legitimate quarterback competition, because it sure sounds like one. Kyler's like, I'm used to getting every rep, people. I came from a spot and I'm trying to play fast.
I'm trying to be. as up to speed as possible and I'm I'm not getting all the reps that I'm used to. And McCarthy's like, yeah. You know? The way that I'm looking at the reps being split is, I can't control it.
meaning clearly he would give himself more. But McCarthy was asked that question. Here's his answer. It feels like the same thing every day. I mean, even last year.
I'm just competing with myself to be the best kind of person I am for this team and best kind of quarterback. And at the end of the day, you know, the more we do that, rising tide lifts all ships, and we'll be in a good spot by the end of it. Family feud.
Okay, good.
Someone got to him and told him to, you know, answer a little more. Plain and boring. Yeah. Like I'm not liking the study group. Yeah.
If I'm here and you're here, doesn't that make it our time? Mr. Had. Kyle Murray also 42-0 as a high school quarterback. That's insane.
Hey, J.J. McCarthy. Yeah, he had a long stretch. He had, I think, from high school through being drafted by the Vikings, had one loss. Yep.
One. to Georgia. Not a TCU, pardon me. Yeah, that was Cade McNamara that lost to Georgia, which led to the. J.J.
McCarthy Ascension, and he lost to TCU in a fiesta. Didn't you go to that game? I did with Cooper. I did. I wasn't trying to be funny.
I was just like, remember, J.J. McCarthy was 36 and 2 in high school.
Okay, so you lost three games.
So these guys are used to winning and getting all the reps. Getting all the reps. Yeah. So I understand it then. Again.
There's no question. One would think McCarthy's got a leg up in terms of the offense and knowing it. He was in it last year. Right. He won a few games down the stretch.
Right. You know, first day of 2026. Have to put in uh The practice facility into his ways in his car. Like maybe Murray had to, right?
So that's the advantage. But the other advantage for Kyler is seven years of experience. And The fact that They don't know what he's capable of doing in their offense just yet. But they've seen what he did. and they see what he can do.
And he's 1.3 million bucks, and while he is that, Or do they really want to see him? That's his advantage, right? You could also then now say one's more talented than the other? You could. All I know is if J.J.
played every game the way he played against the Cowboys, he looked like a professional quarterback on the night. Three total touchdowns. I was like. Where does this guy go? Why did he have to show up today?
Inconsistency is a trademark of the inexperienced. Why did I come up with that one? You just made it up. I did. You're words.
On a football fortune cookie. Come on now. Inconsistency is a hallmark of the inexperienced.
So Let's put on a T shirt. I just think there's going to be a thumb on the scale for Kyler Murray at the end of the day. At the end of the day. But right now, Kyler's like, You want me to play fast and get ready for this thing? I think Kyler Murray is a safe choice.
Why? Why? Veteran, played a lot of football. He's had a lot of success, despite some injuries in there, but. It just also just gives McCarthy more time.
He's still super young. I know that. More time, though. I mean, this is now year three. You're going to have to make a decision on picking up a fifth-year option.
You're gonna you gotta Mm. I just think everybody believes If the Murray that has played well for Arizona shows up in Minnesota with this team and that coaching staff, it will be better. results at the end of the day win loss playoffs Then what he had in Arizona? And The inconsistencies that the inexperienced McCarthy showed last year. They don't have time for that.
Yeah, it seems like it's easier to start Murray if he struggles, go to McCarthy, if he struggles to go back to Murray than the other way around. Unless you're a coach of the year guy and it's just like. It's my way, and everyone's going to trust it. And if I say it's McCarthy first and Then I go to Murray.
So be it. I mean, Kevin O'Connell's going to have a pulse on the whole damn thing, that's for sure. And unlike Last year Murray's a better option than Carson Wentz, wouldn't you say? I would say. Yeah, for sure.
Okay, so.
Well Wentz was also Banged up. But it sounds like it's a full-on competition to the point where They're competing against one another in that classroom. In a way that sounded unhealthy, right? A couple weeks ago. Yeah, for sure.
That now The reps are being split to a point where neither Uh is used to it. Which sounds like a competition. Yeah. Fair. On the up and up.
Which spot is more of a competition, Cleveland or Minnesota, you feel like? Or are they both pretty. even and split. It I don't know. We haven't heard both Watson and Shadur say what.
Moriand We haven't heard them speak at all, really. That's true. I would say the Browns are not. They shouldn't put Deshaun Watson in front of a microphone. True, but we've heard from Murray and McCarthy now.
Two times each. How many? I said two times each. And we haven't heard from Shador or Deshaun at all. Different spots, I don't know, different coaches, different situations.
Just curious. I don't know if there's anything to read into any of that. But I I can't get I don't have much of a read on what Cleveland's doing to give you An answer there, which one is more of a competition? It sounds like both are. Um but The splits of the reps in Minnesota show that this is a true competition.
And we'll may the best man win. But I still feel at the end of the day the let's see what we have in the new guy who's got seven years of experience and a potential massive upside with a team otherwise ready to win now, rather than potentially going through the ups and downs of an inconsistent year again with JJ McCarthy, which we saw last year, based on the fact that we gave up a guy who then went somewhere else to win the Super Bowl and got that inconsistency. And the other guy is so inexpensive for just this one season only. I think the thumb will eventually be put on the scale for Murray. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Wonder if Bob remembers doing that. Those snapple facts, they were that was a phenomenon. Yeah. All right. This is a rarity here for the win-loss game: someone to call in.
And do the win-loss game announcing their new team fandom, apparently.
Okay. I feel like this is like a high school prospect choosing a hat. Right? Live on the Rich Eisen Show. To announce where they're going.
We need to have that one day. I love this. Tim in Arizona, you're here on the program. What's up, Tim? Hey now, Rich.
What's up, boy? Hey now. What up? Hey now, Chris. Hey now.
TJ, how about a woo woo? Oh boy. Woo!
Okay. All right. Yeah. Rich, full disclosure of actually, I am Tim from Arizona, as you know. Yes, of course.
And I'm actually not in Arizona. I'm actually in. In Malibu. I'm hanging out at Joyce Tewitt's Beach House. Nice one.
That's a great reference to. Chris Fowler talking about he had no idea Joyce DeWitt was a family member or like a family friend. But what are you calling in to do, Tim, other than tell us you're GPSing? Yeah. Hey, if you uh if you recall, um I've been a I was a Colt fan for fifty years.
But not anymore? Not anymore. Who are you rooting for? You know, it's all different since Jim died, and I just can't handle it anymore. But here's the deal.
Breaks my heart, but I'm moving on. And um so My new team that I'd like to reveal today, I was looking at three. I was looking at the at the Patriots, but you know, as a Colt fan, I can't be a Patriot. right Then I was looking at the Giants, and just recently, some things that happened with the Giants, I cannot be a Giants fan. And so, who is it, Tim?
Mm-hmm. My boy Mendoza.
Okay. It is a good one. Put up the Raiders. Put up the Raiders. We only got two and a half minutes now after that lengthy preamble.
That Tim in Arizona is no longer rooting for the Colts. He's rooting for the Las Vegas Raiders. He's going to do this too. He's going to do it. He's going to do it.
Here we go. What happens when they open up against the Miami Dolphins? The making.
Okay, if that is actually a win.
Okay, what happens when they visit the Chargers, week two? Locks. One and one home uh at the Saints. Lost. One and two, home for the Chiefs.
Pass One and three at the Patriots. Lost. One and four home for the Bills. Locked. One and five.
Home for the Rams. Love. One and six at the Jets. Wayne. Two and six at the Niners.
Market. Two and seven, home for the Seahawks. Lost. Two and eight at the Broncos. Lost.
Two and nine at the Browns. Win three and nine, a home for the Chargers. Mars? 3-10 at the home for the Broncos. 3-11 home for the Titans.
Win? 4-11 at the Cardinals. Win. Winning streak, 5 and 11 at the Chiefs. That's a loss.
Okay, so you're 5 and 12 as a new Raider fan, and I think speaking on behalf of Raider Nation. Who needs you? Yeah, thanks for nothing, Tim. The Raiders are going to be a dynasty. They are.
They're going to be a dynasty. In football? And I'd like to say one more thing. I agree 100% with Ramon and Jacksonville's prediction on the Colts.
So you can initialize my initials next to his, also. I believe that was a 2 and 15 for them. Wow. Two or fifteen. I think he might have given three wins, but yeah, they're not going to win more.
No, I'm looking at it right here.
Okay. Thank you for the call. You gave him two wins? You did indeed. Two and 15.
There you go.
So, Tim basically checkmarking Ramon Jr. in Jacksonville's 2-15. He just upgraded himself three wins. Boken Raider Nation. Moving on up.
Play Raider Nation, move over for a new fan who thinks you're 5-12. Yeah. Yeah. Who needs you? What's more likely?
The Colts go 2-15 and the Raiders go 5-12? The Raiders go 5-12. Interesting. The Colts aren't going 2-15, man. I think this was a pretty good pick by him here.
I like Mendoza's cool. He thinks there's a massive upside, which so do I.
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